1 00:00:25,442 --> 00:00:28,161 (English narrator) Under the provisions of Title 2 2 00:00:28,278 --> 00:00:30,576 of the 1950 Internal Security Act, 3 00:00:30,697 --> 00:00:33,325 also known as the McCarran Act, 4 00:00:33,450 --> 00:00:36,499 the President of the United States of America 5 00:00:36,620 --> 00:00:41,376 is still authorised, without further approval by Congress 6 00:00:41,500 --> 00:00:46,301 to determine an event of insurrection within the United States 7 00:00:46,421 --> 00:00:51,302 and to declare the existence of an 'internal security emergency '. 8 00:00:52,094 --> 00:00:54,313 The President is then authorised 9 00:00:54,429 --> 00:00:57,433 to apprehend and detain each person 10 00:00:57,558 --> 00:01:01,404 as to whom there is reasonable ground to believe 11 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:06,572 probably will engage in certain future acts of sabotage. 12 00:01:06,692 --> 00:01:10,413 Persons apprehended shall be given a hearing 13 00:01:10,529 --> 00:01:12,452 without right of bail, 14 00:01:12,573 --> 00:01:14,792 without the necessity of evidence, 15 00:01:14,908 --> 00:01:19,505 and shall then be confined to places of detention. 16 00:01:26,795 --> 00:01:31,517 (Radio) 'KBCR News, the Southlands' most comprehensive news coverage. 17 00:01:31,633 --> 00:01:33,977 'The President signed an executive order 18 00:01:34,094 --> 00:01:35,437 'calling to immediate duty 19 00:01:35,596 --> 00:01:37,815 '100,000 reservists. 20 00:01:37,931 --> 00:01:39,808 'Pentagon sources indicate 21 00:01:39,933 --> 00:01:43,062 'that at least 20,000 of these newly mobilised troops 22 00:01:43,186 --> 00:01:44,529 'would be sent to North-East Asia 23 00:01:44,646 --> 00:01:46,819 'in response to the shelling of Seoul, 24 00:01:46,940 --> 00:01:49,159 'capital of South Korea, last week. 25 00:01:49,276 --> 00:01:50,619 'Sources gave no indication 26 00:01:50,736 --> 00:01:53,330 'as to how the remaining reservists might be used. 27 00:01:53,447 --> 00:01:55,620 'It was neither confirmed nor denied 28 00:01:55,741 --> 00:01:58,620 'that they would help law enforcement officials 29 00:01:58,785 --> 00:02:01,664 'deal with the current domestic disorders.' 30 00:02:03,248 --> 00:02:05,125 (Boom of jet passing overhead) 31 00:02:07,419 --> 00:02:10,389 'At least 273 Americans are reported killed, 32 00:02:10,505 --> 00:02:12,678 'and a further 492 wounded, 33 00:02:12,799 --> 00:02:14,301 'as an advance force 34 00:02:14,426 --> 00:02:17,600 'of 30,000 US, Cambodian and South Korean soldiers 35 00:02:17,721 --> 00:02:22,147 'drove deep yesterday into the Hill 98 and Whalesback regions of Laos 36 00:02:22,267 --> 00:02:27,239 'in the heaviest attack so far since the war was extended.' 37 00:02:27,689 --> 00:02:30,033 (Chairman) Patrick John Edwards, you have been found guilty 38 00:02:30,150 --> 00:02:32,073 of conspiracy to undermine the national security 39 00:02:32,194 --> 00:02:34,117 and intent to incite to riot. 40 00:02:34,237 --> 00:02:38,708 You are sentenced to 15 to 21 years in a federal penitentiary. 41 00:02:38,825 --> 00:02:42,295 You have the alternative of undergoing four days in Punishment Park. 42 00:02:42,412 --> 00:02:43,880 How do you choose? 43 00:02:43,997 --> 00:02:46,716 I'd like to thank the court for its fairness... 44 00:02:46,833 --> 00:02:49,552 Defendant, silence! How do you choose? 45 00:02:49,670 --> 00:02:50,887 Punishment Park. 46 00:02:52,631 --> 00:02:55,100 (English narrator) Time 9:00am. 47 00:02:55,217 --> 00:02:58,391 The Bear Mountain National Punishment Park 48 00:02:58,512 --> 00:03:00,435 in Southern California. 49 00:03:00,555 --> 00:03:02,353 Right there. Stop. 50 00:03:02,474 --> 00:03:05,273 You right behind him. Right there. 51 00:03:05,894 --> 00:03:08,613 You over there. Next man. 52 00:03:12,734 --> 00:03:15,738 OK. That woman there. The last man in line. 53 00:03:15,862 --> 00:03:17,239 Go on into the tent. 54 00:03:17,364 --> 00:03:21,744 The 47th Emergency Internal Security Tribunal for the SW Region - 55 00:03:22,035 --> 00:03:24,413 as authorised by executive order no. 302, 56 00:03:24,538 --> 00:03:27,041 William C. Hoeger, Chairman, presiding - 57 00:03:27,416 --> 00:03:29,089 is hereby concluded. 58 00:03:32,713 --> 00:03:35,808 (Radio) 'The UN today became the focus of world attention 59 00:03:35,924 --> 00:03:38,018 'as the US delegate challenged the Russians 60 00:03:38,135 --> 00:03:41,514 'to admit that their submarines had moved into the Caribbean. 61 00:03:41,638 --> 00:03:43,561 'He made it clear that the US 62 00:03:43,682 --> 00:03:45,730 'will tolerate no threats to its sovereignty, 63 00:03:45,851 --> 00:03:47,524 'and he accused the Soviets of trying 64 00:03:47,644 --> 00:03:50,568 'to divert world attention from their actions in the Middle East. 65 00:03:50,689 --> 00:03:53,363 'After heated discussion, the US delegate indicated 66 00:03:53,483 --> 00:03:57,033 'that the communist bloc were responsible for the tripling 67 00:03:57,154 --> 00:03:58,497 'of our monthly draft calls. 68 00:03:58,613 --> 00:04:00,911 'He denied the Russian delegate's accusation 69 00:04:01,032 --> 00:04:04,377 'that the US government is building up a large standing army 70 00:04:04,494 --> 00:04:07,043 'for the suppression of its own people.'. 71 00:04:13,879 --> 00:04:16,348 Do you like your job of slaughtering young people? 72 00:04:17,174 --> 00:04:19,393 (Roar of jet passing overhead) 73 00:04:21,511 --> 00:04:24,481 'Senator George McLewis resigned from the Senate today 74 00:04:24,598 --> 00:04:27,351 'after 22 years of active service. 75 00:04:27,476 --> 00:04:29,945 'He said in a press conference shortly after 76 00:04:30,061 --> 00:04:34,567 'that he could no longer participate in what he called the dismantling 77 00:04:34,691 --> 00:04:37,786 'of basic freedoms for which this country was established. 78 00:04:37,903 --> 00:04:40,281 'In a prepared statement, he mentioned specifically 79 00:04:40,405 --> 00:04:43,659 'the types of 'repressive' legislation 80 00:04:43,784 --> 00:04:46,162 'which led to his sudden resignation, 81 00:04:46,286 --> 00:04:48,789 'including the no-knock and stop-and-frisk laws, 82 00:04:48,914 --> 00:04:52,418 'cancellation of immunity from 5th Amendment cases, 83 00:04:52,542 --> 00:04:54,010 'preventative detention, 84 00:04:54,127 --> 00:04:55,754 'the activation of detention camps, 85 00:04:55,879 --> 00:04:58,223 'and quasi-judicial tribunals. 86 00:04:59,716 --> 00:05:02,310 'He said that he was particularly disturbed 87 00:05:02,427 --> 00:05:05,021 'by the activities of the Punishment Parks.'. 88 00:05:09,267 --> 00:05:12,897 The Marshal will now bring the 48th session to order. 89 00:05:16,608 --> 00:05:21,114 The 48th Emergency Internal Security Tribunal of the SW Region, 90 00:05:21,238 --> 00:05:25,163 as authorised by Executive Order number 302, is now in session. 91 00:05:25,283 --> 00:05:28,162 William C. Hoeger, Chairman, presiding. 92 00:05:28,286 --> 00:05:31,130 (Defence Counsel) Reporting a motion for dismissal at this time. 93 00:05:31,248 --> 00:05:33,967 - On what grounds? - Constitutional. 94 00:05:34,084 --> 00:05:36,132 In particular, 1st, 4th, 5th and 14th Amendments. 95 00:05:36,253 --> 00:05:38,426 Motion overruled. 96 00:05:38,547 --> 00:05:40,845 How the fuck you can overrule the Constitution, man! 97 00:05:40,966 --> 00:05:42,934 (Chairman) Keep the defendant silent. 98 00:05:43,051 --> 00:05:45,270 If it please the court, I'd like to introduce a motion to have 99 00:05:45,387 --> 00:05:47,389 the convictions reviewed separately. 100 00:05:47,973 --> 00:05:48,940 (Chairman) Denied. 101 00:05:49,057 --> 00:05:52,482 In that case, and with all due respect to the Tribunal, 102 00:05:53,144 --> 00:05:55,818 may I move that the court permit voir dire proceedings? 103 00:05:55,939 --> 00:05:58,362 (Chairman) Denied. 104 00:05:59,568 --> 00:06:01,536 Will the court set bail? 105 00:06:01,653 --> 00:06:04,202 Some defendants have been in jail for months. 106 00:06:04,322 --> 00:06:07,166 We don't even know what we were arrested for in the first place. 107 00:06:07,284 --> 00:06:09,537 (Chairman) Keep the defendants quiet! Bail denied. 108 00:06:09,661 --> 00:06:11,538 (Woman) Deny, deny, deny! 109 00:06:11,663 --> 00:06:13,165 We've been in jail for two months 110 00:06:13,290 --> 00:06:15,884 and we don't know what we were arrested for. 111 00:06:16,001 --> 00:06:18,470 - Keep the defendants quiet. - Shut up! 112 00:06:20,088 --> 00:06:21,431 Lee Robert Brown, Jay Kaufman, 113 00:06:21,548 --> 00:06:23,391 James Arthur Kohler, Allison Michener, 114 00:06:23,508 --> 00:06:26,432 Charles Robbins, Nancy Smith, William Vallery. 115 00:06:26,553 --> 00:06:31,525 You stand guilty of conspiracy to undermine the national security 116 00:06:32,017 --> 00:06:34,019 and of separate charges which will be innumerate 117 00:06:34,144 --> 00:06:36,021 and so indicted and convicted 118 00:06:36,146 --> 00:06:38,649 at the preliminary hearings of the 5th Emergency Court 119 00:06:38,773 --> 00:06:41,526 of the 44th Precinct in the District of Glendale, 120 00:06:41,651 --> 00:06:45,326 Captain Edward Rubin, Sheriff, presiding, May 24th. 121 00:06:50,368 --> 00:06:54,464 Temperature 89 degrees. 122 00:07:01,713 --> 00:07:03,511 At the time of your sentencing 123 00:07:03,632 --> 00:07:06,351 you will be able to choose between a penal sentence duly passed 124 00:07:06,468 --> 00:07:08,687 or accept the alternative of Punishment Park. 125 00:07:12,057 --> 00:07:14,185 Punishment Park described by 126 00:07:14,309 --> 00:07:17,779 the US Senate Subcommittee On Law And Order as, 127 00:07:17,896 --> 00:07:19,990 '... a necessary training 128 00:07:20,106 --> 00:07:23,451 'for the law officers and National Guard of the country' 129 00:07:23,568 --> 00:07:26,367 'in the control of those elements who seek 130 00:07:26,488 --> 00:07:29,583 'the violent overthrow of the US government.' 131 00:07:29,699 --> 00:07:33,294 'Sand the means of providing a punitive deterrent 132 00:07:33,411 --> 00:07:36,210 'for said subversive elements.' 133 00:07:36,748 --> 00:07:39,718 You will speak only when you are spoken to and at no other times. 134 00:07:39,834 --> 00:07:41,302 Each violation of this ruling 135 00:07:41,419 --> 00:07:43,717 will result in a citation for contempt of court 136 00:07:43,838 --> 00:07:45,806 of one year in a federal penitentiary 137 00:07:45,924 --> 00:07:47,676 in addition to the sentence duly passed. 138 00:07:48,301 --> 00:07:51,396 Finally, I wish to announce that we have with us at this time 139 00:07:51,513 --> 00:07:53,686 television cameras of the National Network. 140 00:07:53,807 --> 00:07:57,607 Also those of Britain and West Germany. 141 00:07:57,727 --> 00:08:01,448 It is hoped to document these proceedings in the widest manner, 142 00:08:01,564 --> 00:08:03,191 as we know their import 143 00:08:03,316 --> 00:08:06,411 to be of vital concern to the people of the free world everywhere. 144 00:08:06,528 --> 00:08:08,576 Their coverage will be impartial. 145 00:08:08,697 --> 00:08:10,825 - Bullshit! - This trial is illegitimate. 146 00:08:11,282 --> 00:08:14,786 - This trial is illegitimate... - Quiet! 147 00:08:15,578 --> 00:08:20,254 These are the members of Corrective Group 638, 148 00:08:21,042 --> 00:08:26,264 and these, the members of Corrective Group 637 149 00:08:26,756 --> 00:08:32,229 now sentenced to spending three days in Punishment Park. 150 00:08:35,098 --> 00:08:37,817 (Distant explosions and gunfire) 151 00:08:43,565 --> 00:08:45,192 First defendant. 152 00:08:47,694 --> 00:08:51,244 - What's your name? - My name is Brown, motherfucker! 153 00:08:51,364 --> 00:08:53,742 Lee Robert Brown, well-known author, 154 00:08:53,867 --> 00:08:56,040 broadcaster and political activist. 155 00:08:56,161 --> 00:08:59,665 I want to be tried by a jury of my peers, that means black people! 156 00:08:59,789 --> 00:09:02,838 In front of witnesses who identify themselves. 157 00:09:04,210 --> 00:09:06,963 Witnesses! Here! 158 00:09:07,088 --> 00:09:10,092 (Chairman) Keep the defendant silent! Restrain the defendant! 159 00:09:15,638 --> 00:09:16,890 (Radio) 'No end for the heat wave 160 00:09:17,015 --> 00:09:20,861 'which has been frying Los Angeles for three months. 161 00:09:20,977 --> 00:09:23,196 'Temperatures today will top 100° 162 00:09:23,313 --> 00:09:26,066 'for the 12th straight day in downtown LA, 163 00:09:26,191 --> 00:09:28,193 'with the Valley due for 105°. 164 00:09:28,318 --> 00:09:30,571 'Tonight's low will be 79°. 165 00:09:30,695 --> 00:09:35,451 'The deserts can expect mercury readings of 115° plus.'. 166 00:09:38,787 --> 00:09:40,789 You have accepted this course of your own volition 167 00:09:40,914 --> 00:09:42,882 as an alternative to your penal sentences. 168 00:09:43,792 --> 00:09:46,887 You have 3 days and 2 nights in which to reach 169 00:09:47,003 --> 00:09:51,224 the US flag flying 4.5 miles due north of the Bear Shadow Mountains. 170 00:09:51,341 --> 00:09:53,890 These you can see to your front. 171 00:09:57,138 --> 00:10:00,642 These mountains are 16.5 miles from the spot where you are standing. 172 00:10:00,767 --> 00:10:04,067 You will direct yourselves toward the indicating lights. 173 00:10:09,025 --> 00:10:12,450 Pursuit Leader to 245, ready your signal. 174 00:10:14,364 --> 00:10:15,957 (Indistinct voice on field radio) 175 00:10:18,910 --> 00:10:20,708 You will head past this point, 176 00:10:20,829 --> 00:10:23,878 immediately turn west - that is to your left - 177 00:10:23,998 --> 00:10:27,377 and proceed 13 to 17 miles along the lie of the mountains 178 00:10:27,502 --> 00:10:30,301 until you reach a second set of flags. 179 00:10:30,922 --> 00:10:33,675 There you will turn north across the intervening plain, 180 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:38,647 and pass directly to the following hills, a further distance of 19 miles, 181 00:10:38,763 --> 00:10:40,936 and proceed directly to the US flag. 182 00:10:41,057 --> 00:10:44,106 (Senator) 'Mr Brown, did you actually advocate overthrow 183 00:10:44,227 --> 00:10:46,571 'of these, our United States?' 184 00:10:46,938 --> 00:10:48,656 I refuse to answer that question 185 00:10:48,773 --> 00:10:50,867 on the grounds that it may tend to incriminate me. 186 00:10:50,984 --> 00:10:54,033 That's my right under the 5th Amendment of the US constitution. 187 00:10:54,154 --> 00:10:55,701 And overrule that! 188 00:10:55,822 --> 00:10:59,417 Defendant, defendant, it's people like you... 189 00:10:59,534 --> 00:11:01,753 Objection, Mr Chairman! 190 00:11:01,870 --> 00:11:04,919 (Shouting) 191 00:11:08,376 --> 00:11:09,502 Let that man alone! 192 00:11:10,170 --> 00:11:11,968 The object of this course is simple. 193 00:11:13,006 --> 00:11:16,135 Clear the tribunal! Clear the tribunal! 194 00:11:16,759 --> 00:11:19,603 You must evade capture by the pursuing law enforcement officers 195 00:11:19,721 --> 00:11:22,395 and reach the flag by the appointed time, 196 00:11:22,515 --> 00:11:25,485 That is to say 10pm on the evening of the 3rd day from now. 197 00:11:25,602 --> 00:11:29,607 (Shouting continues) 198 00:11:29,731 --> 00:11:32,325 You fucking pig! 199 00:11:33,610 --> 00:11:36,238 Each one of them, take them out of here. 200 00:11:36,529 --> 00:11:38,327 Clear the tribunal. 201 00:11:40,116 --> 00:11:43,586 Your capture or your failure to complete the course in time 202 00:11:43,703 --> 00:11:47,173 will result in the reversion to your penal sentence. 203 00:11:47,290 --> 00:11:50,840 Are you or are you not a member of the Communist Party? 204 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,132 Objection. 205 00:11:53,004 --> 00:11:55,757 I'll answer that motherfucking question! 206 00:11:55,882 --> 00:11:57,555 Watch your language. 207 00:11:59,969 --> 00:12:02,472 Do you think my language is immoral? 208 00:12:02,597 --> 00:12:05,976 What do you call that shit you just did, man? 209 00:12:06,643 --> 00:12:08,520 What do you call this shit? 210 00:12:08,645 --> 00:12:12,821 Give your side-arm to Sepada and go unlock the prisoners. 211 00:12:14,776 --> 00:12:16,949 Were you going to call for revolution on that television? 212 00:12:17,070 --> 00:12:20,700 (Mr Brown) What do you want me to say? I told you the truth. 213 00:12:20,823 --> 00:12:22,575 The truth as you saw it? 214 00:12:22,700 --> 00:12:23,952 I would tell the truth, 215 00:12:24,077 --> 00:12:27,377 I would tell the story of black people like it has never been told, 216 00:12:27,497 --> 00:12:30,125 cos you never tell it, cos they never tell it. 217 00:12:30,250 --> 00:12:32,969 I would say what happens to Chicanos in this country, 218 00:12:33,086 --> 00:12:35,555 because the fruit-growers ain't gonna tell it. 219 00:12:35,672 --> 00:12:39,973 And either they or members of their club buy the time on that television set. 220 00:12:40,093 --> 00:12:43,768 I would tell what happens to people who are poor 221 00:12:43,888 --> 00:12:47,017 and uneducated and automated out of a job, 222 00:12:47,141 --> 00:12:51,021 who stand in long fucking lines talking to little people like you 223 00:12:51,145 --> 00:12:55,946 with delusions of power in unemployment lines all day long 224 00:12:56,067 --> 00:12:59,913 to be fucked off because your old man didn't ball you right last night. 225 00:13:00,029 --> 00:13:02,077 Watch your language, there's a lady in the court. 226 00:13:02,198 --> 00:13:03,040 Where? 227 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,999 The truth is the fact that you're devouring your children. 228 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:11,045 The fact that you're oppressing the people who are powerless in the country. 229 00:13:11,165 --> 00:13:15,261 - And what would you do? - A few of the people are living... 230 00:13:15,378 --> 00:13:18,257 Do you want to listen or do you want to talk? 231 00:13:19,215 --> 00:13:22,059 (Senator) Continue, Mr Brown. Tell us your message. 232 00:13:22,552 --> 00:13:24,680 You don't wanna hear my message, man. 233 00:13:24,804 --> 00:13:25,896 (Overtalking... ) 234 00:13:26,014 --> 00:13:29,769 You've spent 50 years evolving a propaganda system 235 00:13:29,892 --> 00:13:32,816 that'll take the truth and change it into what you want to hear. 236 00:13:32,937 --> 00:13:36,157 You don't want to hear shit that means having to give up something. 237 00:13:36,274 --> 00:13:37,776 You don't want it. 238 00:13:37,900 --> 00:13:39,026 (Overtalking... ) 239 00:13:39,152 --> 00:13:43,328 All you want to do is sit on your fat ass and draw dividends! 240 00:13:43,448 --> 00:13:46,418 (Senator) Did I react to the names that you called me? 241 00:13:46,534 --> 00:13:48,536 As your people just reacted moments ago? 242 00:13:48,661 --> 00:13:51,881 You called me pig and other names. Did I react? 243 00:13:51,998 --> 00:13:56,469 You're in a different position, man. All I can do is call you a dirty name. 244 00:13:57,503 --> 00:13:59,130 These officers have... 245 00:13:59,255 --> 00:14:00,347 (Shouting) 246 00:14:00,465 --> 00:14:03,844 strict instructions not to molest you in any way, 247 00:14:09,307 --> 00:14:13,028 or to hinder you from reaching your ultimate destination. 248 00:14:13,144 --> 00:14:17,820 However they will not allow you to leave the boundary of the course. 249 00:14:17,940 --> 00:14:20,034 (Senator) It has been stated, and it's a fact, 250 00:14:20,151 --> 00:14:24,873 there are more TV sets and cars owned by black people in the USA 251 00:14:24,989 --> 00:14:26,286 than in all of Russia. 252 00:14:26,407 --> 00:14:27,249 So what? 253 00:14:27,367 --> 00:14:29,665 That shows a very intense interest 254 00:14:29,786 --> 00:14:32,414 in the economics of this country, in your people. 255 00:14:32,538 --> 00:14:34,666 (Overtalking... ) 256 00:14:34,791 --> 00:14:38,091 They have a standard of living that's better than any in the world. 257 00:14:38,211 --> 00:14:42,512 Hey, man. You can say an identical thing 258 00:14:42,632 --> 00:14:44,225 for every animal in the zoo. 259 00:14:44,342 --> 00:14:48,267 I'm sure their standard of living has increased - they certainly eat better. 260 00:14:48,930 --> 00:14:51,308 The time is now 9:54 am. 261 00:14:51,432 --> 00:14:53,309 At 10:00 you will commence the course. 262 00:14:53,434 --> 00:14:56,028 At 12:00 noon, that's to say two hours from now, 263 00:14:56,145 --> 00:14:58,739 the pursuit forces will be set in motion against you. 264 00:14:58,856 --> 00:15:00,403 Today's pursuit force will consist 265 00:15:00,525 --> 00:15:02,072 of a unit of the National Guard, 266 00:15:02,193 --> 00:15:05,447 part of the tactical riot squad of a city police department, 267 00:15:05,571 --> 00:15:06,914 and three federal marshals. 268 00:15:07,281 --> 00:15:10,000 At the 5 de Mayo Congress Of Chicano Youth 269 00:15:10,118 --> 00:15:12,086 the defendant was quoted saying, 270 00:15:12,203 --> 00:15:14,626 'To you, I say: Free your communities. Arm yourselves.' 271 00:15:14,747 --> 00:15:16,875 'If the pigs comprehend nothing but force, then use it.' 272 00:15:16,999 --> 00:15:18,842 'Liberate yourself. Off the pigs!' 273 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,930 'Kill the chief pig! Liquidate the mayor...' 274 00:15:22,046 --> 00:15:23,298 (Shouting) 275 00:15:23,423 --> 00:15:25,391 (Mr Brown) Anybody can lift that shit out of context. 276 00:15:25,508 --> 00:15:27,636 (Chairman) You had your chance to speak. 277 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,058 Let Agent Donovan finish his statement. 278 00:15:30,179 --> 00:15:32,273 - This is all we have. - Pig Donovan. 279 00:15:33,391 --> 00:15:37,021 This man is calling for violence, for the destruction of this country. 280 00:15:37,145 --> 00:15:39,193 And it's doing more than just for himself. 281 00:15:39,313 --> 00:15:42,157 His people are spreading this all over the country. 282 00:15:42,275 --> 00:15:45,324 In the factory where I work all kinds of people are reading his stuff. 283 00:15:45,445 --> 00:15:48,198 It's all over the place. Mainly the coloured people are reading it. 284 00:15:48,489 --> 00:15:51,333 And he's stirring them up, talking about legitimate problems that we have, 285 00:15:51,451 --> 00:15:54,125 trying to pose his violent alternatives to it. 286 00:15:54,245 --> 00:15:58,796 (Mr Brown) You talk as if this is some great civilised, non-violent place. 287 00:15:58,916 --> 00:16:01,135 And it ain't. America 288 00:16:03,129 --> 00:16:07,305 is as psychotic as it is powerful, 289 00:16:07,425 --> 00:16:10,770 and violence is the only thing that will command your attention. 290 00:16:15,016 --> 00:16:16,984 No way, you bastard! 291 00:16:18,352 --> 00:16:20,150 (Gunfire) 292 00:16:20,646 --> 00:16:22,990 This country, this America, 293 00:16:23,524 --> 00:16:26,277 was born in violence. 294 00:16:26,402 --> 00:16:28,825 Now revolution's a violent thing. 295 00:16:28,946 --> 00:16:31,165 Get him! Get him! 296 00:16:31,282 --> 00:16:33,330 (Shouting and jeering) 297 00:16:36,162 --> 00:16:38,130 Bring him back over here. 298 00:16:41,167 --> 00:16:44,262 (Mr Brown) I'm in this place right now 299 00:16:44,378 --> 00:16:47,473 because my people, my forebears, 300 00:16:47,590 --> 00:16:51,561 were violently brought here, like this, in chains, from Africa, 301 00:16:53,012 --> 00:16:55,106 where they were violently made to work. 302 00:16:56,057 --> 00:16:59,027 It was upon the labour of their backs 303 00:16:59,143 --> 00:17:01,191 that you so violently wrung out of them 304 00:17:01,312 --> 00:17:03,314 that this country was industrialised. 305 00:17:03,439 --> 00:17:05,191 Right away, right at first. 306 00:17:05,775 --> 00:17:09,996 This land and all the rest that belongs to the country, 307 00:17:10,112 --> 00:17:12,786 was violently taken from the Indians. 308 00:17:12,907 --> 00:17:14,033 Violently. 309 00:17:19,205 --> 00:17:23,051 The time 10:03am. 310 00:17:23,751 --> 00:17:27,631 Temperature 91 degrees. 311 00:17:29,173 --> 00:17:31,676 (Distant explosions) 312 00:17:32,468 --> 00:17:36,348 Your goal is straight down the river, move in that direction. 313 00:17:36,889 --> 00:17:42,146 Time remaining before the beginning of the pursuit, 2 hours. 314 00:17:54,490 --> 00:17:57,790 Hey, David. Can I have another one of your cigarettes? 315 00:17:57,910 --> 00:17:59,912 You've had cigarettes off me all day. 316 00:18:01,289 --> 00:18:04,509 Distance to the United States flag, 317 00:18:05,209 --> 00:18:07,382 53 miles. 318 00:18:09,922 --> 00:18:11,595 They made their choice. 319 00:18:11,716 --> 00:18:13,764 They could've done a lot of things, 320 00:18:13,884 --> 00:18:16,103 but they chose to throw firebombs 321 00:18:16,220 --> 00:18:18,643 and conspire to violently overthrow the government. 322 00:18:18,764 --> 00:18:23,440 They're doing what they want to do. I'm doing what I want to do. 323 00:18:23,561 --> 00:18:25,939 (Automatic gunfire in distance) 324 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,233 Over this way, fast! 325 00:18:29,358 --> 00:18:31,952 (Helicopter overhead) 326 00:18:41,746 --> 00:18:44,465 (Field radio) 'You're on your own.' 327 00:18:50,671 --> 00:18:53,766 I don't think any of those kids'll make it anyway. 328 00:18:53,883 --> 00:18:56,181 D'you see that one little bastard take off? 329 00:18:56,302 --> 00:18:58,805 That Mexican's the fastest thing I ever seen in my life. 330 00:19:01,265 --> 00:19:06,066 Time remaining before the beginning of the police pursuit, 331 00:19:06,187 --> 00:19:09,407 1 hour and 53 mins. 332 00:19:10,775 --> 00:19:14,700 Those kids are running scared. Everybody's running scared. 333 00:19:14,820 --> 00:19:17,039 If they didn't break the law, they wouldn't have to run scared. 334 00:19:26,791 --> 00:19:29,544 Maybe they don't know what the law is, Captain. 335 00:19:30,002 --> 00:19:31,219 Everybody knows. 336 00:19:31,337 --> 00:19:33,715 If they don't want to take the consequences, 337 00:19:33,839 --> 00:19:35,682 let them think before they act. 338 00:19:52,358 --> 00:19:56,829 In order to provide what is termed 'further motivation ', 339 00:19:57,613 --> 00:20:01,914 this group have been told that they will find water 340 00:20:02,034 --> 00:20:05,129 half-way to the American flag. 341 00:20:11,585 --> 00:20:12,928 That long-haired sonofabitch? 342 00:20:13,045 --> 00:20:16,299 I think he's in for some real bad stuff. 343 00:20:16,424 --> 00:20:18,426 You really got a hard-on for that dude. 344 00:20:18,551 --> 00:20:20,770 I don't have a hard-on for him. He's got one for everybody. 345 00:20:20,886 --> 00:20:22,638 He's got one for the world. 346 00:20:22,763 --> 00:20:23,730 So fuck him. 347 00:20:23,848 --> 00:20:26,442 If that's how he wants to play, that's how we'll play. 348 00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:28,357 (Captain) 'A word about violence. 349 00:20:28,477 --> 00:20:32,027 'These three days will be only as violent as you want them to be. 350 00:20:32,148 --> 00:20:33,741 'Your capture, should that occur, 351 00:20:33,858 --> 00:20:36,361 'will be as peaceful as you want it to be. 352 00:20:36,485 --> 00:20:38,908 'An officer will announce to you that you are apprehended 353 00:20:39,029 --> 00:20:41,782 'and that your participation in the course has concluded. 354 00:20:41,907 --> 00:20:43,830 'Should you resist the arrest, 355 00:20:43,951 --> 00:20:47,251 'or should any of you adopt violence in any form during the course, 356 00:20:47,371 --> 00:20:49,669 'then we shall use those means against you. 357 00:20:49,790 --> 00:20:52,964 'In short, you can start the violent actions if you so choose, 358 00:20:53,085 --> 00:20:55,463 'but I assure you that we will finish them.'. 359 00:20:57,047 --> 00:20:59,049 Let's take a minute and get out of here. 360 00:20:59,175 --> 00:21:01,269 - I'm staying. - I'm staying too. 361 00:21:01,385 --> 00:21:03,558 Oh, you gonna stay here and play, huh? 362 00:21:03,679 --> 00:21:06,398 That man gonna shoot the shit out of you! They gonna kill us! 363 00:21:06,515 --> 00:21:11,112 (Bald man) We gotta break out sideways, otherwise there's no chance. 364 00:21:11,228 --> 00:21:12,650 (Mexican man) I'm gonna hide out. 365 00:21:12,772 --> 00:21:15,946 (Woman) I don't know about the rest of you, but this bullshit's got to end. 366 00:21:16,066 --> 00:21:18,990 I ain't leaving another motherfucking step! 367 00:21:21,322 --> 00:21:23,120 Wait a second here, 368 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,665 you're going to bring them down on all of us. Forget it. 369 00:21:26,786 --> 00:21:29,414 Shit! You don't think they're down on you now. 370 00:21:29,538 --> 00:21:30,790 At least we've got a chance. 371 00:21:30,915 --> 00:21:33,885 What chance, man? You've got 50 miles of no chance! 372 00:21:34,001 --> 00:21:36,003 You're going to go out there 373 00:21:36,128 --> 00:21:39,223 and play target-practice for them fucking pigs! 374 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,888 In two hours we can get lost out there. 375 00:21:42,009 --> 00:21:45,354 That's the only chance we got. Here, they're gonna be on you in 5 mins. 376 00:21:45,471 --> 00:21:47,690 You couldn't make it in the heat if there were no police! 377 00:21:47,807 --> 00:21:50,777 - I say stay. - They got water. 378 00:21:50,893 --> 00:21:52,486 We can't stay! 379 00:21:52,603 --> 00:21:56,233 That's our only chance. They're just over that hill. 380 00:22:00,778 --> 00:22:02,906 You're a marksman? 381 00:22:03,656 --> 00:22:05,124 - Yeah. - A sniper? 382 00:22:05,825 --> 00:22:06,667 A marksman. 383 00:22:06,784 --> 00:22:09,503 What do you mean you can't stay here? 384 00:22:10,496 --> 00:22:13,750 The ones that are going have got to go right now. We can't wait. 385 00:22:13,874 --> 00:22:17,595 If you do a thing with the cops, you're gonna get us killed. 386 00:22:20,589 --> 00:22:22,591 Have you ever killed a man? 387 00:22:25,177 --> 00:22:26,053 Yeah. 388 00:22:27,513 --> 00:22:28,685 Jay Kaufman, 389 00:22:28,806 --> 00:22:32,686 co-founder of the National Committee Against War And Repression. 390 00:22:32,810 --> 00:22:34,812 Age 28. 391 00:22:39,692 --> 00:22:44,619 Time remaining 1 hour 42 mins. 392 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,208 I prefer it for the simple reason 393 00:22:48,325 --> 00:22:50,828 that this thing, with magnum load, has enough power 394 00:22:50,953 --> 00:22:53,047 to knock down a rhinoceros if it's coming at you. 395 00:22:53,163 --> 00:22:55,712 I'm sure we're going to be apprehending very few rhinoceri, 396 00:22:55,833 --> 00:22:59,428 but, if we do, I want to know that I'm going to be able to stop it. 397 00:23:00,629 --> 00:23:04,975 I see by your file that you were formerly a candidate for. 398 00:23:05,092 --> 00:23:06,765 Vice-President of the United States. 399 00:23:06,886 --> 00:23:07,978 That's correct. 400 00:23:08,512 --> 00:23:10,435 Also that you were very successful... 401 00:23:10,556 --> 00:23:12,684 See how much I believed in this system? 402 00:23:12,808 --> 00:23:14,151 Make your answers brief. 403 00:23:14,268 --> 00:23:15,941 OK. Bop. 404 00:23:17,563 --> 00:23:19,691 You say you are against war and depression. 405 00:23:19,815 --> 00:23:21,488 What type of depression? 406 00:23:21,609 --> 00:23:24,988 A depression of the people? A depression of economics? 407 00:23:25,112 --> 00:23:28,491 No, I'm not talking about de-pression, I'm talking about re-pression. 408 00:23:28,616 --> 00:23:30,744 Repression. Being oppressed. 409 00:23:32,703 --> 00:23:34,751 What were you charged with? 410 00:23:34,872 --> 00:23:39,093 Draft evasion and, I don't know... 411 00:23:39,209 --> 00:23:42,338 What did they call it? Er, 'hindering the war effort.' 412 00:23:42,922 --> 00:23:44,720 Are you for war or against war? 413 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,561 I'm for war if it's necessary to protect our country. 414 00:23:48,677 --> 00:23:52,102 (Kaufman) Do you condone the war in Vietnam, sir? 415 00:23:52,222 --> 00:23:54,224 - Certainly. - You do. Why? 416 00:23:55,434 --> 00:23:59,064 - Because it's protecting our country. - Who tells you this? 417 00:23:59,188 --> 00:24:02,488 Would you like us to let them come over here? Would you fight then? 418 00:24:02,608 --> 00:24:05,236 (Kaufman) Who tells you that this war is protecting your country? 419 00:24:05,361 --> 00:24:06,954 (Legion officer) We're fighting communism. 420 00:24:07,071 --> 00:24:09,950 - Well, who tells you this? - I hear it every day. 421 00:24:11,241 --> 00:24:14,245 (English interviewer) I gather that you're not going to try and make 422 00:24:14,370 --> 00:24:17,169 the next 50 miles to the US flag. 423 00:24:17,831 --> 00:24:19,959 I wouldn't walk around the goddamn fucking corner 424 00:24:20,084 --> 00:24:21,552 for the American flag, 425 00:24:22,044 --> 00:24:23,762 let alone go out in the desert. 426 00:24:25,589 --> 00:24:30,186 Time remaining 1 hour 25 mins. 427 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,017 Squeeze 428 00:24:33,597 --> 00:24:34,473 and fire. 429 00:24:35,015 --> 00:24:36,562 We're going through 430 00:24:37,184 --> 00:24:39,482 a kind of a group suicide in America. 431 00:24:40,187 --> 00:24:44,283 In a situation where you want to fire two shots rapid-fire, 432 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,620 pull the hammer back fire the first single action, 433 00:24:47,736 --> 00:24:48,737 and follow it up. 434 00:24:50,614 --> 00:24:55,666 Have you any idea how you're going to complete these 50 miles? 435 00:24:57,496 --> 00:25:01,592 I have no idea. We're just going to keep on. 436 00:25:02,543 --> 00:25:05,296 Do you know the difference between a patriot and a chauvinist? 437 00:25:05,421 --> 00:25:07,389 - A who? - A patriot and a chauvinist. 438 00:25:07,506 --> 00:25:08,598 - A chauvinist? - Yes. 439 00:25:08,716 --> 00:25:11,185 Define the word chauvinist to me. 440 00:25:12,761 --> 00:25:14,183 Chauvin was 441 00:25:14,471 --> 00:25:16,269 an officer under Napoleon 442 00:25:16,390 --> 00:25:19,860 and his loyalty was so absurd that we got the word Chauvin, 443 00:25:19,977 --> 00:25:22,196 which is chauvinistic, an absurd loyalty. 444 00:25:22,312 --> 00:25:27,819 They promised us water at the other end, water faucets. 445 00:25:29,236 --> 00:25:32,240 They believe in protest 446 00:25:32,364 --> 00:25:33,741 and ritual defiance, 447 00:25:33,866 --> 00:25:37,416 and yet they're willing to participate fully 448 00:25:37,536 --> 00:25:40,961 in the rules established by the police for these games, 449 00:25:41,081 --> 00:25:44,927 fully expecting that they'll come out all right if they make the flag. 450 00:25:45,586 --> 00:25:47,839 Squeeze. Fire. 451 00:25:48,297 --> 00:25:50,800 Are you expecting to die in the next 2 or 3 days? 452 00:25:50,924 --> 00:25:53,302 I expect to die in the next 2 or 3 minutes. 453 00:25:53,844 --> 00:25:57,314 Your function with this weapon is to hit a man-size figure. 454 00:25:57,431 --> 00:26:01,231 You don't have to put out his eye, or get him in the heart or knee-cap, 455 00:26:01,351 --> 00:26:03,649 or pick the heel off his boot like Wyatt Earp. 456 00:26:03,771 --> 00:26:06,024 - (Interviewer) How old are you? - I'm 20. 457 00:26:06,148 --> 00:26:08,446 All you have to do is hit a man-size figure 458 00:26:08,567 --> 00:26:09,910 from here to there. 459 00:26:10,736 --> 00:26:13,034 I don't think they're trying to kill us, really. 460 00:26:13,155 --> 00:26:15,328 Get him in that area, he's going down 461 00:26:15,449 --> 00:26:17,451 he's got to go down and he's going down hurting. 462 00:26:18,285 --> 00:26:20,629 I think they're just making it difficult. 463 00:26:21,121 --> 00:26:24,842 This isn't Mexico or other countries where they shoot people like you. 464 00:26:24,958 --> 00:26:28,883 (Woman) What would you do to us if you were in control? 465 00:26:29,004 --> 00:26:31,848 Would you be very humanitarian with people like us? 466 00:26:31,965 --> 00:26:34,559 I would make more of an effort than you are. 467 00:26:34,676 --> 00:26:37,179 What is your moral code? What would you do for this country? 468 00:26:37,721 --> 00:26:39,439 You're sitting back, enjoying the adulation 469 00:26:39,556 --> 00:26:41,183 of all these kids. 470 00:26:41,308 --> 00:26:45,313 You are indulging in this self gratification, 471 00:26:45,437 --> 00:26:47,940 you are indulging in some sort of mental masturbation. 472 00:26:48,065 --> 00:26:49,942 (Kaufman) That's what you're doing right now. 473 00:26:50,067 --> 00:26:52,991 How could they have any faith in a man 474 00:26:53,112 --> 00:26:56,787 who makes a mockery out of everything that we stand for? 475 00:26:56,907 --> 00:26:59,160 The home, true love... 476 00:26:59,284 --> 00:27:03,755 You haven't the first idea about love with your love-ins, you really haven't. 477 00:27:03,872 --> 00:27:05,545 If it was up to you, 478 00:27:05,666 --> 00:27:08,636 we'd shut down the factories and panhandle on the street. 479 00:27:08,752 --> 00:27:11,050 And what kind of society would we have then? 480 00:27:11,171 --> 00:27:13,799 How would you feed people then? 481 00:27:14,258 --> 00:27:16,886 You want us to support you. That's what you want. 482 00:27:17,010 --> 00:27:19,729 (Kaufman) There is enough food and wealth in this country 483 00:27:19,847 --> 00:27:21,849 to take care of everyone, 484 00:27:21,974 --> 00:27:24,727 and everyone isn't being taken care of. 485 00:27:24,852 --> 00:27:27,856 You want to go round the streets and have orgies all the time. 486 00:27:27,980 --> 00:27:31,780 (Kaufman) I'm not going around having orgies all the time. 487 00:27:31,900 --> 00:27:35,370 I'm as concerned as you are about the direction of this country. 488 00:27:36,113 --> 00:27:38,912 I really feel sorry for you. We're the same age, 489 00:27:39,032 --> 00:27:41,785 and here you are defending a miserable existence. 490 00:27:41,910 --> 00:27:43,787 Don't you realise how you're being exploited? 491 00:27:43,912 --> 00:27:47,416 How the people who control the money are diminishing your existence 492 00:27:47,541 --> 00:27:49,464 to working in a fucking dirty factory 493 00:27:49,585 --> 00:27:52,805 which puts smoke up in the air, which pollutes the world, 494 00:27:52,921 --> 00:27:55,265 and you're working your ass off saving money for your kids 495 00:27:55,382 --> 00:27:57,760 getting pennies while they're making hundreds of dollars? 496 00:27:57,885 --> 00:27:59,558 Don't you realise you're being duped? 497 00:27:59,678 --> 00:28:02,352 How they've got your head fucked with and indoctrinated? 498 00:28:02,472 --> 00:28:04,850 How they have you conditioned? How they misinformed you? 499 00:28:04,975 --> 00:28:06,818 Don't you see this? Are you that blind? 500 00:28:06,935 --> 00:28:10,235 Some new kick or new drug comes along, you'll try it. 501 00:28:10,355 --> 00:28:14,656 (Kaufman) What about kicks like genocide, imperialism, napalm warfare? 502 00:28:14,776 --> 00:28:17,700 What about those new kicks which this country puts in practice? 503 00:28:18,947 --> 00:28:22,451 This is a Remington Wingmaster model 870 shotgun, 12-gauge. 504 00:28:22,576 --> 00:28:24,704 What about corruption, police brutality? 505 00:28:24,828 --> 00:28:25,920 (Jurgens) You are immoral! 506 00:28:26,038 --> 00:28:28,666 What about the oppression of the minorities? 507 00:28:29,333 --> 00:28:32,678 - You're sick! - I am not immoral, Mrs Jurgens! 508 00:28:33,295 --> 00:28:35,923 Do you want to know what's immoral? 509 00:28:36,048 --> 00:28:38,392 Do you want me to tell you what's immoral? 510 00:28:38,508 --> 00:28:41,557 War is immoral. Poverty is immoral. 511 00:28:41,678 --> 00:28:45,148 Racism is immoral. Police brutality is immoral. 512 00:28:45,265 --> 00:28:47,939 Oppression is immoral. Genocide is immoral. 513 00:28:48,060 --> 00:28:49,687 Imperialism is immoral. 514 00:28:49,811 --> 00:28:52,155 This country represents all those things. 515 00:28:52,689 --> 00:28:54,612 It's loaded with 00 buckshot. 516 00:28:54,733 --> 00:28:57,782 When are we gonna have love? When are we gonna have brotherhood? 517 00:28:57,903 --> 00:29:00,281 We're not as long as this little fucking Hitler... 518 00:29:00,405 --> 00:29:03,079 Each individual cartridge 519 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,420 has 9 ball-bearings in it. 520 00:29:06,536 --> 00:29:09,460 And you're sending all the oppressed people to their death! 521 00:29:09,581 --> 00:29:11,549 Don't you know that? Are you that fucking stupid? 522 00:29:11,667 --> 00:29:14,261 (Chairman) Another outburst and you'll be taken from the court. 523 00:29:14,378 --> 00:29:17,177 It has no choke on it, the gun has no choke on it whatsoever. 524 00:29:17,297 --> 00:29:21,302 So the buckshot just flies out in any and every direction. 525 00:29:21,426 --> 00:29:24,771 Insane people who murder the children of their country. 526 00:29:24,888 --> 00:29:27,107 (Chairman) And your record, what does that show? 527 00:29:27,224 --> 00:29:29,898 What does the record of this country show? 528 00:29:30,018 --> 00:29:32,646 Destroying the country from within, this is all your record shows. 529 00:29:32,771 --> 00:29:34,523 You're destroying the world from within! 530 00:29:34,648 --> 00:29:38,994 Anything in front of you is totally out of luck when you pull the trigger. 531 00:29:39,111 --> 00:29:41,705 What does LSD have to do with death, with murder, 532 00:29:41,822 --> 00:29:44,496 with war, with injustice, with poverty, with racism? 533 00:29:44,616 --> 00:29:47,711 Take the prisoner out of here! Get him out of here! 534 00:29:47,828 --> 00:29:49,501 Get him out of here! 535 00:29:51,248 --> 00:29:52,500 Get him out of here! 536 00:29:52,624 --> 00:29:56,925 You have to pump to inject the shell into the chamber and pump to eject it. 537 00:30:00,340 --> 00:30:04,390 (Panting) I was... I was at a poetry reading. 538 00:30:05,679 --> 00:30:09,149 Temperature 93 degrees. 539 00:30:09,266 --> 00:30:11,143 The police came in... 540 00:30:12,311 --> 00:30:14,609 and they swept us off the stage. 541 00:30:14,730 --> 00:30:17,779 People are just being killed for nothing, 542 00:30:17,899 --> 00:30:20,527 hauled off to jail, hauled off to prison. 543 00:30:20,652 --> 00:30:22,370 Feelings? There is no feeling. 544 00:30:22,904 --> 00:30:25,623 Every day you walk outside, some guy takes a shot at you. 545 00:30:25,741 --> 00:30:27,368 Some pig in a goddamn uniform. 546 00:30:27,492 --> 00:30:29,415 Watch the pattern of the buckshot. 547 00:30:29,870 --> 00:30:31,964 And they say this is democracy. 548 00:30:34,958 --> 00:30:38,553 Can you see the dispersement? It looks like 6 or 7 feet. 549 00:30:38,670 --> 00:30:41,423 We've got to wait for the first one to come. 550 00:30:41,548 --> 00:30:43,676 What if more than one comes? 551 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,144 An individual carrying a thing like this with a safety arm, 552 00:30:46,261 --> 00:30:48,855 might see someone that would be an antagonist. 553 00:30:49,306 --> 00:30:52,651 - Who's going to be a decoy? - I'll do it. 554 00:30:53,185 --> 00:30:55,859 You've got to hit a man in the right spot and he's wearing a helmet. 555 00:30:55,979 --> 00:30:58,027 Slip the safety off and go like this. 556 00:30:59,441 --> 00:31:02,490 How would you try and remedy what's happening in America? 557 00:31:02,611 --> 00:31:06,241 I don't think it can be done. We've just got to evolve out of it. 558 00:31:06,365 --> 00:31:08,834 And I think it'll happen violently. 559 00:31:12,496 --> 00:31:15,375 Anything between those two shots is blown away. 560 00:31:15,499 --> 00:31:17,251 It is no longer causing you any trouble. 561 00:31:17,376 --> 00:31:19,003 It does not exist any more. 562 00:31:19,127 --> 00:31:21,095 It has one purpose alone 563 00:31:21,213 --> 00:31:23,181 when loaded with buckshot, that is to kill. 564 00:31:23,298 --> 00:31:26,268 Not to disperse. Not to harry. Not to wound. To kill. 565 00:31:26,385 --> 00:31:28,638 Use it for that fact when you have to do so. 566 00:31:33,892 --> 00:31:36,987 Time remaining 50 mins. 567 00:31:41,858 --> 00:31:45,658 (Interviewer) What are your feelings towards the police in this country? 568 00:31:49,991 --> 00:31:55,498 (Man) I really don't think they're too different from anybody else. 569 00:31:55,622 --> 00:31:57,920 Pigs are pigs. I mean... 570 00:31:58,041 --> 00:31:59,918 Pigs have always been pigs. 571 00:32:00,043 --> 00:32:04,219 (Young man) The street-cleaners of the public conscience. 572 00:32:04,339 --> 00:32:07,639 (Woman) They're just like hired killers. 573 00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:10,353 These people have been sent out here unarmed. 574 00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:12,939 Unarmed? I don't think Jack did anything to them. 575 00:32:18,895 --> 00:32:22,650 (Man) This is going to be the first revolution in history 576 00:32:22,774 --> 00:32:25,118 when the pigs were in the upper class. 577 00:32:25,694 --> 00:32:28,163 I think they're in the same boat 578 00:32:29,239 --> 00:32:33,460 as the people we left back at the house. 579 00:32:37,038 --> 00:32:39,291 They have a point of view 580 00:32:39,875 --> 00:32:43,175 and they're willing to use any sort of means 581 00:32:43,962 --> 00:32:45,680 to back it up. 582 00:32:46,673 --> 00:32:49,768 (Young man) They're doing a job. They're just taking orders. 583 00:32:49,885 --> 00:32:53,515 They're working. They're getting paid for what they do. 584 00:33:01,146 --> 00:33:03,114 (Interviewer) Can you tell us... 585 00:33:03,231 --> 00:33:05,700 Can you tell us what happened here? 586 00:33:05,817 --> 00:33:08,912 What happened is obvious. What I don't know is why. 587 00:33:09,488 --> 00:33:13,664 That young man over there with that white cloth on his head is dead. 588 00:33:14,493 --> 00:33:18,373 (Man) They get paid more than social workers or college professors. 589 00:33:18,872 --> 00:33:22,547 They have a real stake in maintaining the status quo. 590 00:33:23,877 --> 00:33:25,174 He was attacked. 591 00:33:26,171 --> 00:33:29,425 Signs point to at least three people, maybe four. 592 00:33:29,549 --> 00:33:33,895 He was stabbed to death with the spires of a Joshua tree. 593 00:33:34,387 --> 00:33:38,358 Do you think this man's death will cause any 594 00:33:39,684 --> 00:33:42,938 further antagonism on the part of your officers towards these people? 595 00:33:43,063 --> 00:33:44,906 No doubt about it whatsoever. 596 00:33:45,023 --> 00:33:46,616 Each man is thinking that 597 00:33:46,733 --> 00:33:48,906 that could have been him under the same circumstances. 598 00:33:49,027 --> 00:33:50,779 And it undoubtedly would have been. 599 00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:53,657 There's no doubt that it'll cause more antagonism, 600 00:33:53,782 --> 00:33:56,376 and I think antagonism is a very mild word 601 00:33:56,493 --> 00:33:58,962 on the part of the men in my command towards these individuals. 602 00:34:07,212 --> 00:34:09,931 We have a specific plan of action that we execute 603 00:34:10,048 --> 00:34:12,972 in case of circumstances such as these. 604 00:34:13,093 --> 00:34:17,098 And as soon as the National Guard, who found the body, informed me 605 00:34:17,222 --> 00:34:19,145 that this had taken place, 606 00:34:19,891 --> 00:34:22,144 those measures went into effect. 607 00:34:23,353 --> 00:34:25,230 (Indistinct talking over field radio) 608 00:34:36,908 --> 00:34:41,163 'Better check on suspects who may be in possession of firearms.'. 609 00:34:54,009 --> 00:34:56,979 Do you feel the country is on the brink of fratricide? 610 00:34:57,095 --> 00:34:58,312 Yes. 611 00:34:58,430 --> 00:35:02,105 It's already there, it's been happening for some time. 612 00:35:02,601 --> 00:35:04,854 Did they take any weapons from the deputy? 613 00:35:04,978 --> 00:35:07,197 They have his patrol car. 614 00:35:07,314 --> 00:35:09,817 They have a.357 Magnum. 615 00:35:09,941 --> 00:35:13,241 They have a Remington 12-gauge Wingmaster shotgun, 616 00:35:13,361 --> 00:35:15,955 at least 50 rounds of ammunition. 617 00:35:16,906 --> 00:35:18,249 They have his billy-club. 618 00:35:18,742 --> 00:35:20,790 They also took his shoes. 619 00:35:21,411 --> 00:35:23,334 They are armed and dangerous. 620 00:35:23,455 --> 00:35:26,925 They have a shotgun - that's the most dangerous weapon that I can imagine. 621 00:35:27,042 --> 00:35:28,510 We will use force against them. 622 00:35:28,627 --> 00:35:30,755 We will not take any chances with these individuals. 623 00:35:30,879 --> 00:35:33,132 They've killed once. I don't like to lose men. 624 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,140 Did any of you know the deputy that was killed? 625 00:35:37,260 --> 00:35:39,103 I didn't know him that well. 626 00:35:39,220 --> 00:35:42,394 It's not about a personal vendetta. 627 00:35:43,475 --> 00:35:45,898 Quite the opposite. We are not doing this for ourselves. 628 00:35:46,019 --> 00:35:47,942 We're doing this for the people who pay the taxes. 629 00:35:54,653 --> 00:35:59,580 The thing that appalls me is that it seems to be almost understood. 630 00:35:59,699 --> 00:36:03,545 It doesn't have to happen this way if we can just... 631 00:36:03,662 --> 00:36:09,294 If we can somehow create a change of spirit, a change of mind. 632 00:36:09,417 --> 00:36:12,261 It doesn't have to happen... but it is. 633 00:36:12,379 --> 00:36:15,599 - Have you ever killed a man? - Yes, I have. 634 00:36:16,883 --> 00:36:19,011 What did you feel about that at the time? 635 00:36:19,135 --> 00:36:20,352 No feeling at all. 636 00:36:23,098 --> 00:36:25,772 'Warning, the two suspects are armed and dangerous. 637 00:36:25,892 --> 00:36:28,065 'Intercept with extreme caution.'. 638 00:36:29,396 --> 00:36:32,070 Do you think you'll have to resort to violence? 639 00:36:32,524 --> 00:36:36,779 No. I hadn't thought about violence at all. 640 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,162 I don't think there'll be any need for violence. 641 00:36:42,742 --> 00:36:45,211 That's what we're working against. 642 00:36:48,164 --> 00:36:51,043 But it just seems like there's no other way 643 00:36:52,293 --> 00:36:54,216 to defend ourselves. 644 00:36:55,046 --> 00:36:57,549 Violence might be necessary, yes. 645 00:36:58,299 --> 00:37:00,301 I can't see the good in fighting back. 646 00:37:00,427 --> 00:37:04,603 If they kill me, what difference would my politics make? 647 00:37:04,723 --> 00:37:06,316 I would be dead. 648 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,444 You quit your job and you don't like to work for others. 649 00:37:14,899 --> 00:37:18,278 I can understand that. I have the same feelings sometimes. 650 00:37:18,403 --> 00:37:23,330 William Luke Vallerio. Unemployed, age 30. 651 00:37:23,450 --> 00:37:27,796 I take a hunting trip sometimes or just go off fishing, 652 00:37:27,912 --> 00:37:29,664 leave the old lady at home. 653 00:37:29,789 --> 00:37:31,507 But you're on vacation all the time. 654 00:37:32,792 --> 00:37:35,796 Is that your view of life? Just to be on vacation all the time? 655 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,593 I do what I want to do. 656 00:37:39,507 --> 00:37:44,809 (Chairman) Do you understand why you are before this tribunal? 657 00:37:46,765 --> 00:37:48,312 I don't want to go in the army. 658 00:37:50,977 --> 00:37:54,823 If our country were attacked within the hour, 659 00:37:55,315 --> 00:37:57,363 would you join the US services? 660 00:37:57,484 --> 00:37:58,827 I would not. 661 00:37:59,986 --> 00:38:03,616 If I told you that I was going to wad up this piece of paper 662 00:38:03,740 --> 00:38:05,913 and hit you with it, what would you do? 663 00:38:06,034 --> 00:38:07,035 I would duck. 664 00:38:11,790 --> 00:38:14,543 (Radio) '2:0Opm. KBCR News. 665 00:38:14,667 --> 00:38:17,637 'B-52 bombers today launched a massive air strike 666 00:38:17,754 --> 00:38:20,849 'against the North Vietnamese armament centre of Pem Dong, 667 00:38:20,965 --> 00:38:23,809 'only 15 miles from the border with China.' 668 00:38:23,927 --> 00:38:26,146 it's the whole violent thing in America. 669 00:38:26,262 --> 00:38:28,356 I don't know when it's going to stop. 670 00:38:28,473 --> 00:38:29,645 I don't know what 671 00:38:31,643 --> 00:38:33,520 would bring it all to an end. 672 00:38:33,645 --> 00:38:36,945 You believe it's obviously getting worse? 673 00:38:38,149 --> 00:38:39,867 - Very much so. - All the time. 674 00:38:40,318 --> 00:38:44,744 With the war and the minorities, the poor, 675 00:38:44,864 --> 00:38:47,333 it is constantly getting worse 676 00:38:47,450 --> 00:38:49,373 and it seems that more and more people 677 00:38:49,494 --> 00:38:51,588 are willing to turn to violence 678 00:38:52,413 --> 00:38:53,756 to take care of it, 679 00:38:53,873 --> 00:38:59,300 and it seems to be escalating into an unthinkable situation. 680 00:39:00,338 --> 00:39:01,635 I don't think they're sincere. 681 00:39:01,756 --> 00:39:05,226 If they're sincere, why don't they riot in wintertime? 682 00:39:08,179 --> 00:39:10,898 2:23pm. 683 00:39:11,516 --> 00:39:14,816 Temperature 101 degrees. 684 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,367 (Chairman) Have you ever gone hunting or have your dad 685 00:39:28,491 --> 00:39:30,493 or your friends taken you out hunting? 686 00:39:30,618 --> 00:39:31,665 I've never gone hunting. 687 00:39:31,786 --> 00:39:34,335 - You've never shot a gun? - I've never shot a gun in my life. 688 00:39:34,455 --> 00:39:36,708 - You don't know how to handle one? - I don't. 689 00:39:36,833 --> 00:39:38,301 I don't like guns. 690 00:39:42,964 --> 00:39:44,716 What were you charged with? 691 00:39:44,841 --> 00:39:46,718 Refusing induction. 692 00:39:47,886 --> 00:39:50,139 (Chairman) Agent Donovan, would you read that charge? 693 00:39:50,263 --> 00:39:54,143 Conspiracy to aid and abet others to avoid the draft. 694 00:39:59,439 --> 00:40:01,282 How did you refuse? 695 00:40:02,233 --> 00:40:06,909 I just ignored the letter. I just didn't do anything. 696 00:40:08,406 --> 00:40:11,376 (Chairman) You don't like to travel and, according to the charges, 697 00:40:11,492 --> 00:40:14,837 you tried to flee the country because of draft evasion. 698 00:40:14,954 --> 00:40:16,706 How do you reconcile that? 699 00:40:16,831 --> 00:40:18,674 I don't like to travel but it was necessary. 700 00:40:18,791 --> 00:40:23,262 I wanted to get to some place where I could stay, be in one place 701 00:40:23,379 --> 00:40:25,757 be left alone to do what I want to do, 702 00:40:25,882 --> 00:40:27,884 instead of all the hassles that I was having. 703 00:40:28,676 --> 00:40:32,306 - Did they just come and take you? - They broke in. 704 00:40:32,847 --> 00:40:36,647 Mr Vallerio, you testified that you live alone. Do you listen to the radio? 705 00:40:36,768 --> 00:40:38,145 Do you have a TV set? 706 00:40:38,269 --> 00:40:41,648 I didn't testify that I live alone. I don't have a TV. I have a radio. 707 00:40:41,773 --> 00:40:43,366 Do you know what's going on, 708 00:40:43,483 --> 00:40:46,532 that the Chinese are crossing the North Vietnam border 709 00:40:46,653 --> 00:40:48,906 and that we're now bombing within 5 miles of the border? 710 00:40:49,030 --> 00:40:54,332 Do you realise the intensity in which this situation places the USA? 711 00:40:54,452 --> 00:40:55,999 It's getting hard to live here. 712 00:40:58,998 --> 00:41:04,050 When they arrested me, they roughed me up somewhat. 713 00:41:04,170 --> 00:41:08,050 That's when my wife was arrested. 714 00:41:08,174 --> 00:41:10,427 I was just trying to help him. 715 00:41:11,636 --> 00:41:14,765 They charged me with assault on a police officer. 716 00:41:16,808 --> 00:41:19,607 The only legitimate thing that I can think of doing 717 00:41:19,727 --> 00:41:23,698 is to use my body or well-being, 718 00:41:23,815 --> 00:41:26,785 my freedom or life, 719 00:41:30,113 --> 00:41:32,411 to back up what I say. 720 00:41:32,949 --> 00:41:38,171 At another time, the honourable or right thing to do 721 00:41:38,287 --> 00:41:42,133 might be to be a policeman or to be President. 722 00:41:42,750 --> 00:41:47,881 Right now, I think the honourable thing to do is to be a criminal. 723 00:41:51,092 --> 00:41:53,561 'All units, this is truck 509. 724 00:41:53,678 --> 00:41:56,932 'We have a couple of suspects in sight of truck 517.'. 725 00:41:58,975 --> 00:42:04,482 Would you describe your work as committed, socially? 726 00:42:05,148 --> 00:42:08,903 (Faint voice) Yes, it's committed. But it's... 727 00:42:10,361 --> 00:42:14,741 not committed to the revolution. 728 00:42:18,161 --> 00:42:19,754 It's committed to... 729 00:42:21,205 --> 00:42:22,502 sanity. 730 00:42:28,254 --> 00:42:34,307 The normal human body temperature is 98.6 degrees Fahrenheit. 731 00:42:34,427 --> 00:42:36,270 An increase in body temperature 732 00:42:36,387 --> 00:42:41,894 of 6 to 8 degrees above normal for any extended period 733 00:42:42,018 --> 00:42:43,611 means death. 734 00:42:46,647 --> 00:42:48,741 (Man) I don't know what any of us could do. 735 00:42:48,858 --> 00:42:50,860 Maybe if we all got together 736 00:42:50,985 --> 00:42:53,204 for one day or for one week 737 00:42:53,321 --> 00:42:56,575 and stopped, just stopped doing everything and said, 738 00:42:57,241 --> 00:43:00,666 'This has to stop. The fucking war has to stop.' 739 00:43:01,329 --> 00:43:03,331 We have to do something about all the hate here. 740 00:43:07,376 --> 00:43:12,724 (Interviewer) You were 2 weeks in jail before being brought out here. 741 00:43:15,009 --> 00:43:17,432 How did the police treat you? 742 00:43:18,554 --> 00:43:19,680 Like we were trash. 743 00:43:20,223 --> 00:43:22,897 They were really, really bad. 744 00:43:29,649 --> 00:43:31,447 There they are, there! 745 00:43:35,863 --> 00:43:40,835 (Indistinct voices on field radio) 746 00:43:56,884 --> 00:43:58,727 The pigs are coming! 747 00:43:58,845 --> 00:44:00,768 (Voice over speaker) 'You are apprehended! 748 00:44:00,888 --> 00:44:02,936 'Your part in the course is concluded.'. 749 00:44:05,935 --> 00:44:07,437 Get them, come on! Get them! 750 00:44:08,146 --> 00:44:09,898 (Chairman) We were just told by the Senator 751 00:44:10,022 --> 00:44:12,070 about the menace that faces us, 752 00:44:12,191 --> 00:44:14,535 and here you sit as if this was a picnic. 753 00:44:14,652 --> 00:44:18,828 You've got shackles and handcuffs on and this is a picnic! 754 00:44:19,407 --> 00:44:21,535 Stop or we'll shoot to kill! 755 00:44:22,952 --> 00:44:25,501 You sit there so quietly so calmly. 756 00:44:25,621 --> 00:44:27,874 This is sickening! You're a traitor. 757 00:44:27,999 --> 00:44:29,501 Get in. 758 00:44:30,543 --> 00:44:34,264 Perhaps you haven't had the guard put the cuffs on tight enough. 759 00:44:37,758 --> 00:44:39,681 I know it sounds a pain for you. 760 00:44:39,802 --> 00:44:41,179 Out of order. Irrelevant. 761 00:44:46,142 --> 00:44:47,610 Dogs. 762 00:44:51,731 --> 00:44:54,029 I'm beginning to think that maybe 763 00:44:54,859 --> 00:44:56,861 the others had the right idea. 764 00:45:05,745 --> 00:45:08,294 There's no reason to react against that. 765 00:45:08,414 --> 00:45:11,258 It'll just bring it down worse on all of us. 766 00:45:11,709 --> 00:45:14,883 (Indistinct voices on field radio) 767 00:45:15,254 --> 00:45:18,098 He loves this country but, 'I want to go to Canada.' 768 00:45:18,216 --> 00:45:20,514 Why does he want to go to Canada? Evade the draft. 769 00:45:28,017 --> 00:45:29,360 Stop, I mean it! 770 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,107 Do you think they did this 771 00:45:34,774 --> 00:45:36,742 because they were Chicano? 772 00:45:37,318 --> 00:45:39,070 It has nothing to do with Chicanos. 773 00:45:39,195 --> 00:45:41,948 They're going to do the same thing to all of us. 774 00:45:42,698 --> 00:45:43,950 Get in the car! 775 00:45:45,701 --> 00:45:48,250 We have to get out of here, this is the first place they're gonna look for us. 776 00:45:51,082 --> 00:45:52,584 Sit down. 777 00:45:52,708 --> 00:45:56,008 They could be right behind any one of these little dunes. 778 00:46:03,135 --> 00:46:05,684 'We've picked up two of them. 779 00:46:05,805 --> 00:46:09,355 'Time check, 17.08. 780 00:46:09,475 --> 00:46:11,819 'One male one female, both Mexican.'. 781 00:46:14,772 --> 00:46:18,822 Temperature 107 degrees. 782 00:46:19,652 --> 00:46:21,245 Will you stop following us, eh? 783 00:46:22,154 --> 00:46:25,829 (Chairman) He's going to make a choice between Punishment Park or prison 784 00:46:25,950 --> 00:46:28,669 and he'll have to make that choice himself. 785 00:46:30,788 --> 00:46:32,461 The desert heat is a killer. 786 00:46:32,581 --> 00:46:35,084 It will burn your skin, sap your strength, 787 00:46:35,209 --> 00:46:38,008 cut your efficiency, drain the moisture from your body 788 00:46:38,129 --> 00:46:40,632 and thicken your blood unless you drink water. 789 00:46:40,756 --> 00:46:43,760 There will be a temperature difference of 45 degrees 790 00:46:43,884 --> 00:46:46,012 between daytime heat and pre-dawn cool. 791 00:46:53,436 --> 00:46:55,939 Dawn on the second day. 792 00:46:58,149 --> 00:47:01,198 Temperature 62 degrees. 793 00:47:15,374 --> 00:47:17,502 Nancy Jane Smith. 794 00:47:17,626 --> 00:47:20,220 Popular singer and composer. 795 00:47:20,338 --> 00:47:22,432 Age 19. 796 00:47:22,548 --> 00:47:26,644 I understand the defendant does not wish to have you as her counsel. 797 00:47:26,761 --> 00:47:29,560 That's correct, Mr Chairman. She wishes to defend herself. 798 00:47:32,850 --> 00:47:34,443 How do you feel? 799 00:47:37,897 --> 00:47:41,026 My hands... my fingers are numb. 800 00:47:44,528 --> 00:47:46,371 I'm afraid of my feet. They... 801 00:47:47,615 --> 00:47:48,992 I'm so cold I threw up. 802 00:47:50,326 --> 00:47:52,579 Did you hear the patrol cars during the night? 803 00:47:52,703 --> 00:47:53,955 We heard them... 804 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,084 We heard them in the distance, but they didn't come near us. 805 00:47:57,666 --> 00:48:00,340 I'd like to... I want to find out a little bit more about you. 806 00:48:00,461 --> 00:48:02,463 You were arrested for assaulting a police officer. 807 00:48:02,588 --> 00:48:04,010 What did you do to him? 808 00:48:04,131 --> 00:48:05,974 I was trying to keep him from arresting me. 809 00:48:06,550 --> 00:48:10,271 The songs that she composes are of a seditious nature. 810 00:48:10,388 --> 00:48:14,438 She advocates the overthrow of the government in many of her songs. 811 00:48:15,518 --> 00:48:17,316 One of them I'll read right now. 812 00:48:18,646 --> 00:48:20,523 Evidence Nancy Smith. 813 00:48:20,648 --> 00:48:23,492 Seditious literature. 814 00:48:23,609 --> 00:48:25,657 Santa Claus is coming With a bag of bombs and guns 815 00:48:25,778 --> 00:48:27,701 Santa Claus is here The revolution has come. 816 00:48:27,822 --> 00:48:31,247 Grab a handful, dip in quick Grant a slogan, make it stick. 817 00:48:31,367 --> 00:48:34,621 Right on, Baby Get yours and fight like crazy. 818 00:48:34,745 --> 00:48:36,588 We can win, blow up buildings Watch them fall. 819 00:48:36,705 --> 00:48:39,174 For hours that we spend Standing in the hall. 820 00:48:39,291 --> 00:48:45,549 (Jurgens) I bet your mother and father are proud of you, aren't they? 821 00:48:46,173 --> 00:48:47,425 Yes. 822 00:48:49,427 --> 00:48:51,600 (Jurgens) I'd like to hear you sing one. 823 00:48:53,139 --> 00:48:56,063 (Nancy) Celibate ass-lickers Riding cars made of gold. 824 00:48:56,183 --> 00:48:58,777 Taken from the poor They've gathered to their fold. 825 00:48:58,894 --> 00:49:01,989 Father Pig leads a flock of sheep Father Pig makes ready. 826 00:49:02,106 --> 00:49:03,528 For the slaughter. 827 00:49:03,649 --> 00:49:06,323 Celibate snatch-men Their rhythm is the way. 828 00:49:06,444 --> 00:49:08,196 Poor ladies get the babies. 829 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,448 But Father Dick has the say. 830 00:49:10,573 --> 00:49:13,201 Do you know what snatch is? 831 00:49:13,701 --> 00:49:17,251 (Lurgens) I don't have to be insulted by this little guttersnipe. 832 00:49:18,289 --> 00:49:21,259 In the psychiatric evaluation of the prisoner, these songs 833 00:49:21,375 --> 00:49:23,753 do show a neurotic and schizophrenic tendency. 834 00:49:23,878 --> 00:49:25,471 Is that your opinion, dummy? 835 00:49:26,380 --> 00:49:28,223 Here's what I'm interested in... 836 00:49:28,340 --> 00:49:30,217 You came from a wealthy family. 837 00:49:30,342 --> 00:49:33,221 You had the best of things that this country has to offer. 838 00:49:33,345 --> 00:49:35,347 Why do you turn against the country? 839 00:49:35,473 --> 00:49:37,396 My parents taught me to think 840 00:49:37,516 --> 00:49:42,067 and my parents gave me certain values of honesty and... 841 00:49:42,188 --> 00:49:43,735 - To think? - That's why I'm here. 842 00:49:43,856 --> 00:49:46,029 - Tell people to throw bombs too? - No. 843 00:49:46,150 --> 00:49:49,620 They taught me to think and they gave me a set of moral values. 844 00:49:49,737 --> 00:49:51,785 It don't have anything to do with sex, lady. 845 00:49:51,906 --> 00:49:54,910 - What happened to the moral values? - I still have all of them. 846 00:49:55,034 --> 00:49:56,707 What about the songs you write? 847 00:49:56,827 --> 00:49:58,329 Do you call those moral? 848 00:49:58,454 --> 00:50:00,798 Yeah. I call them a lot more moral that what you're doing 849 00:50:00,915 --> 00:50:02,713 sitting right there. Fuck off! 850 00:50:02,833 --> 00:50:04,301 Watch your language. 851 00:50:04,418 --> 00:50:06,045 Why should I watch my language? 852 00:50:06,795 --> 00:50:08,012 Fuck off! 853 00:50:08,130 --> 00:50:10,007 Watch your language, defendant. 854 00:50:10,466 --> 00:50:13,060 Oh, shut up! What do you think I care what you tell me to do? 855 00:50:13,177 --> 00:50:15,145 You're going to kill me in a little while. 856 00:50:15,262 --> 00:50:16,730 Old man! 857 00:50:16,847 --> 00:50:19,600 Stop that language! That's part of all the other moral crap. 858 00:50:19,725 --> 00:50:22,353 Moral crap? You said crap! 859 00:50:22,478 --> 00:50:24,446 Yes. You make me say crap! 860 00:50:24,563 --> 00:50:26,986 - You make me very angry! - Shoot that woman! 861 00:50:27,107 --> 00:50:28,654 She said crap! 862 00:50:28,776 --> 00:50:31,029 Sit down, defendant. 863 00:50:31,153 --> 00:50:32,871 What you're doing to the children... 864 00:50:32,988 --> 00:50:34,240 What I'm doing? 865 00:50:34,365 --> 00:50:37,244 Yes, what you're doing! You make me sick! 866 00:50:37,368 --> 00:50:39,791 You're a crazy girl! You ought to be locked up! 867 00:50:39,912 --> 00:50:42,335 Why should I be locked up? Why don't you shoot me? 868 00:50:42,456 --> 00:50:45,005 Because you're schizophrenic! You're cuckoo! 869 00:50:45,876 --> 00:50:49,096 Miss Smith, I remind you that your violent 870 00:50:49,213 --> 00:50:51,841 overthrow-of-the-government, financially-rewarding songs, 871 00:50:51,966 --> 00:50:53,889 really gives you a peculiar kind of freedom 872 00:50:54,009 --> 00:50:56,182 to have your love-ins, to have your pot. 873 00:50:56,303 --> 00:50:58,431 What is your philosophy of government? 874 00:50:58,556 --> 00:51:00,479 What do you believe in? 875 00:51:00,599 --> 00:51:02,772 I would take every man that is in this country 876 00:51:02,893 --> 00:51:04,770 that's in a uniform in another country 877 00:51:04,895 --> 00:51:08,445 and bring him back home and put him back in the world. 878 00:51:08,566 --> 00:51:11,820 I would take every prisoner out of their cages. 879 00:51:11,944 --> 00:51:13,821 I'd take every hungry person and feed them, 880 00:51:13,946 --> 00:51:16,074 and take away every rich person's money. 881 00:51:16,198 --> 00:51:19,543 I would take every person that's tired of working jobs 882 00:51:19,660 --> 00:51:21,503 like on the auto lines and things like that 883 00:51:21,620 --> 00:51:24,749 who have worked for years for nothing and never getting ahead... 884 00:51:24,873 --> 00:51:27,251 Or people in college, because I had to quit school because 885 00:51:27,376 --> 00:51:30,755 I got so fucking paranoid, because after Kent State 886 00:51:30,879 --> 00:51:33,052 I realised that I had to put on 887 00:51:33,173 --> 00:51:35,767 a cheerleader's sweater with an I love America pin 888 00:51:35,884 --> 00:51:38,057 and the people who were shooting weren't even aiming. 889 00:51:38,178 --> 00:51:40,101 I'd walk out of a classroom 890 00:51:40,222 --> 00:51:42,566 and be on my way to lunch and get killed just as easily 891 00:51:42,683 --> 00:51:45,983 as in the front line of a barricade in a demonstration. 892 00:51:46,103 --> 00:51:47,776 - Do you have any children? - Yes, I have. 893 00:51:47,896 --> 00:51:48,943 How many children? 894 00:51:49,064 --> 00:51:50,987 You've tried to get into the mind 895 00:51:51,108 --> 00:51:52,451 of some of my children. 896 00:51:52,568 --> 00:51:56,323 They were brainwashed by watching Donna Reed and Father Knows Best. 897 00:51:56,447 --> 00:51:59,200 By the time they listened to me, they were past their formative years. 898 00:51:59,325 --> 00:52:01,578 - How many? - I have 3 children. 899 00:52:01,702 --> 00:52:03,955 How would you feel if one of them died? 900 00:52:04,079 --> 00:52:05,422 I'd feel terrible. 901 00:52:10,127 --> 00:52:11,800 (Siren begins wailing... ) 902 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,299 The course has now been in progress 903 00:52:15,424 --> 00:52:18,268 for 24 and a half hours. 904 00:52:18,385 --> 00:52:21,059 (Siren and explosions continue... ) 905 00:52:21,180 --> 00:52:23,399 (Chairman) Let us get back to the charges. 906 00:52:23,515 --> 00:52:24,937 I'll read them again. 907 00:52:25,059 --> 00:52:27,153 (Nancy) I have a charge to make against you. 908 00:52:27,770 --> 00:52:30,865 I have a charge to make against you, old man! 909 00:52:30,981 --> 00:52:33,609 You old, sick man. 910 00:52:33,734 --> 00:52:36,738 How many kids have you led to the slaughter? 911 00:52:36,862 --> 00:52:38,455 How many kids are out there now? 912 00:52:38,572 --> 00:52:40,745 Who's getting killed by the guns that I hear go off? 913 00:52:40,866 --> 00:52:44,746 How many children have been through these tribunals? 914 00:52:44,870 --> 00:52:46,042 - Silence! - No! 915 00:52:46,163 --> 00:52:48,461 How many children have you killed? 916 00:52:48,582 --> 00:52:50,050 Who's dying right now? 917 00:52:50,167 --> 00:52:52,215 You sent those kids out there. 918 00:52:52,336 --> 00:52:54,088 I sent those kids out there? 919 00:52:54,213 --> 00:52:57,717 Who's dying? Who's dead that was sitting right here? 920 00:52:59,009 --> 00:53:03,059 You sat here and with all the arrogance in the world... 921 00:53:03,847 --> 00:53:05,815 I don't have to listen to that. 922 00:53:05,933 --> 00:53:08,356 You don't even hear me. 923 00:53:08,477 --> 00:53:09,820 Cut it out! 924 00:53:09,937 --> 00:53:12,986 You have no real way of running anything, you're a phoney! 925 00:53:13,107 --> 00:53:15,201 Don't you dare talk to me like that! 926 00:53:15,317 --> 00:53:17,035 There's no question about this girl 927 00:53:17,152 --> 00:53:19,405 being a definite communist threat to this nation. 928 00:53:21,573 --> 00:53:24,042 Each member of this group 929 00:53:24,159 --> 00:53:28,915 is now lacking about two quarts of body water. 930 00:53:29,289 --> 00:53:32,964 (Nancy) I believe in destroying everything that you stand for 931 00:53:33,085 --> 00:53:35,884 and destroy everything that you're trying to do. 932 00:53:36,004 --> 00:53:38,848 (Committee members interject) 933 00:53:38,966 --> 00:53:40,092 I'm complaining? 934 00:53:40,217 --> 00:53:41,764 I have the right to complain! 935 00:53:41,885 --> 00:53:44,183 Defendant, sit down. Restrain the defendant. 936 00:53:44,304 --> 00:53:45,726 You're going to put a bullet... 937 00:53:48,183 --> 00:53:52,529 Basically, we found ourselves in a situation where 938 00:53:53,939 --> 00:53:58,160 we thought we had the entire group of militants pinned down 939 00:53:58,277 --> 00:54:00,371 and called upon them to surrender. 940 00:54:00,487 --> 00:54:03,991 They did not do so and you see the consequences of their decision. 941 00:54:04,116 --> 00:54:06,335 Silence the defendant! 942 00:54:07,202 --> 00:54:09,250 Silence the defendant! 943 00:54:12,207 --> 00:54:14,426 Senator, this is when it is getting out of proportion... 944 00:54:14,543 --> 00:54:17,012 You may have kids and their lives are relevant... 945 00:54:17,129 --> 00:54:20,178 I've got a couple of young kids. How are you going to raise them? 946 00:54:22,092 --> 00:54:24,390 We have at least one more running around. 947 00:54:25,888 --> 00:54:28,482 What do you plan to do now? 948 00:54:30,434 --> 00:54:32,152 We have this gun. 949 00:54:32,269 --> 00:54:34,988 We'll try to find a place in the high ground 950 00:54:36,815 --> 00:54:40,445 and wait for them and, if they don't come, we'll get out. 951 00:54:40,569 --> 00:54:41,661 We know we'll get them. 952 00:54:41,779 --> 00:54:45,249 This whole fucking game is like a revolution and we're in it. 953 00:54:45,365 --> 00:54:46,833 If we don't get them, the desert will. 954 00:54:46,950 --> 00:54:49,248 We've got to either win or die. 955 00:54:50,037 --> 00:54:52,836 - Where was he hit? - In the neck. 956 00:54:52,956 --> 00:54:55,334 I don't much care just so they're hit. 957 00:54:55,459 --> 00:54:58,633 And if we do win, we're going to wreck this fucking establishment 958 00:54:58,754 --> 00:55:00,222 and this fucking game. 959 00:55:01,173 --> 00:55:04,347 They don't understand what's going on in this country. 960 00:55:04,468 --> 00:55:08,063 They have no idea, no loyalty, no understanding, 961 00:55:08,180 --> 00:55:10,353 and they respond with violence. 962 00:55:11,767 --> 00:55:15,067 And the words in her songs 'Throw bombs!' 963 00:55:15,187 --> 00:55:17,315 'Blow up!' 'Kill!' 'Kill!' 964 00:55:17,439 --> 00:55:19,237 And who do they kill? Innocent people. 965 00:55:19,358 --> 00:55:21,952 And she drives the kids here and says we did it. 966 00:55:26,365 --> 00:55:30,290 Temperature 98 degrees. 967 00:55:32,830 --> 00:55:36,255 One of the main reasons for having Punishment Park in the first place 968 00:55:36,375 --> 00:55:39,549 is because, with the type of crime 969 00:55:39,670 --> 00:55:42,139 that we have being committed today, 970 00:55:42,256 --> 00:55:44,975 the civil and social crime, 971 00:55:45,092 --> 00:55:48,141 we're filling up our prisons 972 00:55:48,262 --> 00:55:50,264 faster than we can build new facilities. 973 00:55:50,430 --> 00:55:52,603 (Indistinct chatter) 974 00:56:01,567 --> 00:56:03,820 Ask the Senator how it is. 975 00:56:03,944 --> 00:56:07,869 May we ask you what you feel about 976 00:56:07,990 --> 00:56:11,836 your duty on the board today? 977 00:56:12,494 --> 00:56:16,624 What do you feel about disciplining young people? 978 00:56:16,748 --> 00:56:18,591 A number of these young people 979 00:56:18,709 --> 00:56:21,303 remind me of a situation I had at home. 980 00:56:22,087 --> 00:56:23,430 It was one of my own daughters. 981 00:56:23,547 --> 00:56:26,175 For about a year we had quite a difficult time with her. 982 00:56:27,259 --> 00:56:31,139 She didn't believe that there would be any discipline at home 983 00:56:31,263 --> 00:56:33,311 and we sort of worked that thing out. 984 00:56:34,433 --> 00:56:36,435 May I ask you how you worked it out? 985 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,359 I kept punishing her and she kept responding 986 00:56:39,479 --> 00:56:41,982 until finally we worked it out quite well. 987 00:56:42,107 --> 00:56:46,283 You've got to remember that these children of ours today are like 988 00:56:46,403 --> 00:56:50,124 skilled and trained, highly-bred horses. 989 00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:52,242 They're trained to go around that track, 990 00:56:52,367 --> 00:56:54,495 but then you've got to sort of hold them in, 991 00:56:54,620 --> 00:56:57,123 because, if you let the reins out, 992 00:56:57,247 --> 00:56:59,625 they'll just run around that track without any control at all. 993 00:57:00,083 --> 00:57:03,257 We do get a few oddballs before this tribunal. 994 00:57:03,378 --> 00:57:06,302 Especially that one that wouldn't kill a fly. 995 00:57:07,090 --> 00:57:09,434 He said he'd take one of these cups and catch the fly 996 00:57:09,551 --> 00:57:12,225 and take it outside and let it free. 997 00:57:14,431 --> 00:57:18,527 He's probably a 1-A now, or in Indochina. I wouldn't know. 998 00:57:19,061 --> 00:57:22,315 I'd rather be in a lot more places than in the desert. 999 00:57:22,439 --> 00:57:24,533 I have a wife and family back home. 1000 00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,199 There are certain things you have to do for your country, 1001 00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,119 but for all the abuse and just seeing these characters 1002 00:57:31,239 --> 00:57:34,584 have no respect for this country it's difficult. 1003 00:57:34,701 --> 00:57:35,953 We give them a chance 1004 00:57:36,078 --> 00:57:39,878 to have a fair say but they don't seem to appreciate it. 1005 00:57:39,998 --> 00:57:43,298 It's a very difficult job to do, it really is. 1006 00:57:43,418 --> 00:57:45,762 But somebody has to do it. 1007 00:57:46,588 --> 00:57:48,340 We do our best. 1008 00:57:48,465 --> 00:57:52,390 What would you do if one of your own children appeared before you? 1009 00:57:52,511 --> 00:57:53,512 Oh, my God. 1010 00:57:53,637 --> 00:57:56,561 No, my kids wouldn't do that. They really wouldn't. 1011 00:57:56,682 --> 00:57:58,104 They've been trained differently. 1012 00:57:58,809 --> 00:58:03,906 I see a running pattern of paranoia in these youngsters. 1013 00:58:04,022 --> 00:58:05,899 This may sound funny, but it isn't funny. 1014 00:58:06,024 --> 00:58:09,528 I think there should've been more spank and less Spock in America, 1015 00:58:09,653 --> 00:58:11,906 and our youth wouldn't be what they are today. 1016 00:58:14,908 --> 00:58:18,378 These are political criminals. They are not social criminals. 1017 00:58:19,037 --> 00:58:22,837 They have to be shown that their way is wrong. 1018 00:58:22,958 --> 00:58:27,213 We cannot show them by killing them, by building gas chambers, 1019 00:58:27,337 --> 00:58:31,467 or by setting up machine-gun bunkers and covering them with bulldozers. 1020 00:58:33,260 --> 00:58:35,888 This is not the way we like to operate. 1021 00:58:41,518 --> 00:58:45,239 - What's wrong? - Fuck! Fuck! 1022 00:58:52,237 --> 00:58:54,239 - Let's get going. - Let's get the fuck out of here. 1023 00:58:54,364 --> 00:58:56,162 But going where? 1024 00:58:56,283 --> 00:58:57,580 Let's try to make it to the flag. 1025 00:58:58,827 --> 00:59:01,580 How we gonna make it somewhere? We have no water! 1026 00:59:01,705 --> 00:59:03,958 There's no water that way. 1027 00:59:05,125 --> 00:59:07,924 What would your forefathers have done, Mr Kohler, 1028 00:59:08,045 --> 00:59:09,888 if, during the revolution 1029 00:59:10,005 --> 00:59:12,133 they were all conscientious objectors? 1030 00:59:13,383 --> 00:59:16,387 If the majority of my forefathers were conscientious objectors 1031 00:59:16,511 --> 00:59:19,230 it would include the people from England too 1032 00:59:19,347 --> 00:59:21,691 and in that case they would have been acting justly 1033 00:59:21,808 --> 00:59:23,526 towards the people in the colonies... 1034 00:59:23,643 --> 00:59:25,691 James Arthur Kohler. 1035 00:59:25,812 --> 00:59:28,816 Pacifist. Age 20. 1036 00:59:28,940 --> 00:59:32,410 And they wouldn't have been over here killing the Indians. 1037 00:59:32,527 --> 00:59:35,076 Tell me, are you aware of the crisis in this country? 1038 00:59:35,197 --> 00:59:37,825 How deeply do you feel about the present crisis of the nation 1039 00:59:37,949 --> 00:59:39,201 and of the world at large 1040 00:59:39,326 --> 00:59:41,875 and the responsibility that we have to this crisis? 1041 00:59:41,995 --> 00:59:44,498 What responsibility do you have as a citizen of this country? 1042 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,761 My responsibilities as a citizen do not include killing for it. 1043 00:59:50,337 --> 00:59:51,930 I'm not going any further. 1044 00:59:52,672 --> 00:59:54,970 They want us to try and break out. 1045 00:59:55,425 --> 00:59:58,975 They want us to become violent. 1046 01:00:01,098 --> 01:00:03,396 They want us to be like them. 1047 01:00:05,185 --> 01:00:07,483 I'm not going to let them play games with me any more! 1048 01:00:07,604 --> 01:00:09,982 Anyone that wants to come with us, come on. 1049 01:00:11,942 --> 01:00:14,161 They want to blow your brains out. 1050 01:00:14,277 --> 01:00:16,996 They're going to kill you. Straight and simple. 1051 01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,540 See that? That's what'll kill us! Things like that! 1052 01:00:21,660 --> 01:00:23,662 Are you familiar with Saint Thomas Aquinas? 1053 01:00:23,787 --> 01:00:24,788 Yes, I am. 1054 01:00:24,913 --> 01:00:27,132 I think he had this to say about a just war. 1055 01:00:27,249 --> 01:00:31,299 He laid down a proviso for a just war, he said this: 1056 01:00:31,837 --> 01:00:35,967 That war must be decided upon legitimate authority 1057 01:00:36,091 --> 01:00:40,437 and, secondly, that its objective must be to vindicate justice 1058 01:00:40,554 --> 01:00:44,275 and that, thirdly, it must be waged with a just intent. 1059 01:00:44,391 --> 01:00:48,112 This was during the 12th Century, before this present time. 1060 01:00:48,728 --> 01:00:50,230 He understood what a just war meant. 1061 01:00:50,355 --> 01:00:53,734 Can't you understand that the policy in Indochina 1062 01:00:53,859 --> 01:00:56,578 is even justified by a 12th Century philosopher? 1063 01:00:57,404 --> 01:01:02,160 Those provisos came from Saint Augustine originally, 1064 01:01:02,284 --> 01:01:05,879 and Saint Augustine had a fourth proviso which shows 1065 01:01:05,996 --> 01:01:09,546 the total absurdity of considering any war just: 1066 01:01:09,666 --> 01:01:11,043 That a war must be waged 1067 01:01:11,168 --> 01:01:13,796 under the control of a loving disposition, 1068 01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:17,720 that no man is fit to inflict punishment 1069 01:01:17,841 --> 01:01:20,139 until he has banished hate from his heart. 1070 01:01:22,429 --> 01:01:26,525 Temperature 109 degrees. 1071 01:01:29,686 --> 01:01:33,281 Distance to the US flag, 1072 01:01:33,398 --> 01:01:35,776 27 miles. 1073 01:01:39,404 --> 01:01:41,748 Defendant, I take it from your philosophy 1074 01:01:41,865 --> 01:01:44,584 you're opposed to slavery, is that right? 1075 01:01:44,701 --> 01:01:45,918 Yes, I am. 1076 01:01:46,036 --> 01:01:48,459 And the Civil War was fought to free the slaves? 1077 01:01:48,580 --> 01:01:49,672 It wasn't. 1078 01:01:49,789 --> 01:01:51,041 Speak up, will you? 1079 01:01:51,166 --> 01:01:52,964 It wasn't fought to free the slaves 1080 01:01:53,084 --> 01:01:55,052 and it wasn't a just war. 1081 01:01:55,170 --> 01:01:56,262 It was a just war 1082 01:01:56,379 --> 01:01:58,802 because the black people fought for freedom. 1083 01:01:58,924 --> 01:02:02,224 Would you have fought on the side of the black people? 1084 01:02:02,344 --> 01:02:04,096 Black people haven't gained their freedom! 1085 01:02:04,221 --> 01:02:06,770 What do you think what's happening right now is all about? 1086 01:02:08,558 --> 01:02:12,438 We know that there are only a handful of black militants 1087 01:02:12,562 --> 01:02:16,612 that are running the People's Army. It does not represent the community. 1088 01:02:16,733 --> 01:02:19,486 You are trying to overthrow the government. 1089 01:02:20,028 --> 01:02:21,655 Charles Robbins 1090 01:02:21,780 --> 01:02:24,033 member of the People's Army. 1091 01:02:24,157 --> 01:02:25,704 Age 25. 1092 01:02:25,825 --> 01:02:27,873 Martin Luther King was opposed to your violence and 1093 01:02:27,994 --> 01:02:31,874 you're talking about a People's Army when you're only a handful. 1094 01:02:31,998 --> 01:02:37,255 (Robbins) To deal with the thing of what you call black militants 1095 01:02:40,090 --> 01:02:43,014 trying to overthrow the government. 1096 01:02:43,134 --> 01:02:45,853 The thing is, we're trying to save people, 1097 01:02:45,971 --> 01:02:48,440 because the government is overthrowing itself. 1098 01:02:49,474 --> 01:02:54,355 My loyalty is to the people. People are the most important thing, 1099 01:02:54,479 --> 01:02:57,107 and people have been left out 1100 01:02:58,817 --> 01:03:02,993 while the cats that run this country have moved and shitted all over. 1101 01:03:03,113 --> 01:03:05,582 (Sully) You dwell on the black problem. 1102 01:03:05,699 --> 01:03:07,667 It's quite obvious because I'm black. 1103 01:03:07,784 --> 01:03:11,084 I've been to Washington DC 1104 01:03:11,204 --> 01:03:13,172 and I have seen the schools and ghettos, 1105 01:03:13,290 --> 01:03:14,883 and we are trying to educate, 1106 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,002 and yet you're trying to take over our programmes. 1107 01:03:17,127 --> 01:03:19,596 Is that what you're trying to offer? Our own programmes? 1108 01:03:19,713 --> 01:03:23,559 The thing is we don't want to take over your programmes 1109 01:03:23,675 --> 01:03:26,269 because we know your programmes are very corrupt. 1110 01:03:26,386 --> 01:03:28,605 Do you believe you're separatist or a racist? 1111 01:03:28,722 --> 01:03:30,315 I'm neither. I'm an internationalist. 1112 01:03:30,765 --> 01:03:34,110 (Policeman) You have no chance in hell going the way you're going. 1113 01:03:36,855 --> 01:03:41,326 Two surviving members of Corrective Group 637 1114 01:03:41,443 --> 01:03:47,371 have seized a West German sound technician as hostage. 1115 01:03:47,490 --> 01:03:49,037 (Robbins) We're trying to save the people. 1116 01:03:49,159 --> 01:03:50,581 (Jurgens) In what way? 1117 01:03:50,702 --> 01:03:54,081 Through mass education. We believe in education through example. 1118 01:03:54,205 --> 01:03:58,255 We have very functional programmes. Example. Right on. 1119 01:03:58,376 --> 01:04:00,424 What kind of example are you? 1120 01:04:01,296 --> 01:04:02,718 You're a revolutionary. 1121 01:04:02,839 --> 01:04:05,934 Your newspapers show a black militant with a gun. 1122 01:04:06,051 --> 01:04:07,849 'Shoot the pigs!' 'Shoot the pigs!' 1123 01:04:07,969 --> 01:04:09,061 I believe in this. 1124 01:04:10,388 --> 01:04:12,015 It's simple and plain. 1125 01:04:12,140 --> 01:04:14,814 When fired upon, I believe in firing back. 1126 01:04:15,643 --> 01:04:17,111 One... 1127 01:04:18,021 --> 01:04:20,149 - Two... - Don't shoot. Don't. 1128 01:04:20,273 --> 01:04:21,570 Three. 1129 01:04:27,155 --> 01:04:28,623 It's just a matter of staying alive. 1130 01:04:32,952 --> 01:04:35,046 It's like a game they're playing with us. 1131 01:04:35,163 --> 01:04:37,131 You either win or you die. 1132 01:04:44,923 --> 01:04:48,302 (Robbins) The pigs are running madly through our community, 1133 01:04:48,426 --> 01:04:51,805 slaughtering off our children and our women. 1134 01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:57,770 The truth in America is that America is a sick society. 1135 01:04:57,894 --> 01:05:01,899 America is full of motherfuckers who have shitted upon people. 1136 01:05:02,023 --> 01:05:03,525 Are you afraid to die? 1137 01:05:03,650 --> 01:05:06,529 No, I'm not afraid to die. That's quite obvious. 1138 01:05:06,653 --> 01:05:10,749 Why are you leading your people into a mass hysteria? 1139 01:05:10,865 --> 01:05:13,994 When I walk through Washington DC asking why... 1140 01:05:14,119 --> 01:05:16,292 Hey, man, you're always in Washington DC, 1141 01:05:16,413 --> 01:05:19,542 but you ain't doing nothing in Washington DC! 1142 01:05:19,666 --> 01:05:21,543 You're out here in California right now, 1143 01:05:21,668 --> 01:05:22,885 sitting on a committee 1144 01:05:23,002 --> 01:05:25,130 that is supposed to be from this particular area, 1145 01:05:25,255 --> 01:05:26,882 but you are not even from this area, 1146 01:05:27,006 --> 01:05:29,225 because you spend most of your time in Washington DC. 1147 01:05:29,342 --> 01:05:31,720 How come you're not in Washington DC relating to the problem? 1148 01:05:31,845 --> 01:05:33,188 Does that make me a pig? 1149 01:05:33,304 --> 01:05:36,558 I don't to have to call you a pig because you know what you are. 1150 01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,234 What are you taking about a mad dog? Define what... 1151 01:05:41,354 --> 01:05:43,857 Would you like me to define what a politician is? 1152 01:05:43,982 --> 01:05:46,576 A politician is nothing but a debater. 1153 01:05:46,693 --> 01:05:49,947 All that you do is debate issues, you fat pig! 1154 01:05:50,071 --> 01:05:51,698 You meathead! That's all that you are, 1155 01:05:51,823 --> 01:05:53,996 because you're a lying sucker! 1156 01:05:54,117 --> 01:05:59,339 You're lying to the camera, to your mamma, to everybody! 1157 01:05:59,456 --> 01:06:00,673 (Chairman) Quiet! 1158 01:06:00,790 --> 01:06:02,258 Quiet, defendant! 1159 01:06:02,375 --> 01:06:04,969 You ain't got no humanity in you because you're a pig! 1160 01:06:05,086 --> 01:06:06,463 You lying punk! 1161 01:06:06,588 --> 01:06:09,262 (Chairman) Restrain the defendant. 1162 01:06:09,382 --> 01:06:11,384 (Jet engine overhead) 1163 01:06:13,595 --> 01:06:15,097 Shut him up! 1164 01:06:15,555 --> 01:06:17,853 Shut him up! Gag him! 1165 01:06:19,267 --> 01:06:20,610 Shut him up! 1166 01:06:23,271 --> 01:06:24,614 Defence counsel. 1167 01:06:27,233 --> 01:06:28,951 Shut him up! 1168 01:06:29,068 --> 01:06:31,366 What seems quite clear now 1169 01:06:31,488 --> 01:06:35,538 is that instead of trying to bring estranged and excluded Americans 1170 01:06:35,658 --> 01:06:39,037 such as these people back into the national community, 1171 01:06:39,162 --> 01:06:41,130 the administration has chosen 1172 01:06:41,247 --> 01:06:44,968 to accept and exploit the division within the country 1173 01:06:45,084 --> 01:06:48,338 and to side with what it considers as the majority. 1174 01:06:48,463 --> 01:06:50,932 Instead of the politics of reconciliation, 1175 01:06:51,049 --> 01:06:53,268 it has chosen the politics of polarisation. 1176 01:06:56,304 --> 01:07:00,650 Have you discussed what you'll do if you have to leave him? 1177 01:07:00,767 --> 01:07:03,190 Or will you try and take him with you? 1178 01:07:06,022 --> 01:07:07,615 We never thought about it. 1179 01:07:12,403 --> 01:07:15,577 Morning on the third day. 1180 01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:28,508 When the human body has suffered a dehydration of between 6 to 10% 1181 01:07:28,628 --> 01:07:32,599 it experiences dizzines, difficulty in breathing 1182 01:07:32,715 --> 01:07:35,969 decreased blood volume, indistinct speech, 1183 01:07:36,094 --> 01:07:39,394 and finally an inabiliity to walk. 1184 01:07:41,057 --> 01:07:44,652 Distance to the US flag, 1185 01:07:44,769 --> 01:07:47,113 23 miles. 1186 01:07:47,939 --> 01:07:50,567 I'd like to know about violence on the campus. 1187 01:07:51,442 --> 01:07:53,661 I'd like to know why you people do these things. 1188 01:07:53,778 --> 01:07:54,904 A lot of us work hard 1189 01:07:55,029 --> 01:07:56,997 to build those schools and pay taxes. 1190 01:07:57,115 --> 01:08:00,540 And build these universities for our kids to go to. 1191 01:08:00,660 --> 01:08:03,584 And you people just come along and burn them right down. 1192 01:08:03,705 --> 01:08:05,707 Do you want him to answer your question? 1193 01:08:05,832 --> 01:08:09,177 You'll get a chance, Defence Counsel. 1194 01:08:09,294 --> 01:08:13,765 Students don't burn buildings down. That's just a myth. 1195 01:08:13,881 --> 01:08:17,727 It's just a sensationalised myth brought about by the press. 1196 01:08:18,595 --> 01:08:20,939 Students don't burn buildings down, 1197 01:08:21,055 --> 01:08:23,183 and, besides, I don't advocate violence. 1198 01:08:23,308 --> 01:08:28,030 Alison Michener, radical organiser of women's unions, 1199 01:08:28,146 --> 01:08:32,822 co-founder of the National Committee Against War And Repression. 1200 01:08:32,942 --> 01:08:35,445 Age 23. 1201 01:08:35,570 --> 01:08:37,447 It's a waste of time. 1202 01:08:37,572 --> 01:08:41,702 You try to destroy the Bank Of America, try to break in a window or something. 1203 01:08:41,826 --> 01:08:43,954 They can build it right up. They have the money, power. 1204 01:08:44,078 --> 01:08:45,921 That's not the way to change things. 1205 01:08:49,542 --> 01:08:51,795 I'm glad I'm here. 1206 01:08:51,919 --> 01:08:53,216 Some of the guys 1207 01:08:53,755 --> 01:08:57,055 have gotten pretty upset since the deputy incident the other day. 1208 01:08:57,175 --> 01:09:00,896 I'm afraid they're going to shoot first and ask questions later. 1209 01:09:02,221 --> 01:09:04,815 Have you heard some of the men say that? 1210 01:09:04,932 --> 01:09:07,435 They've really gotten paranoid. 1211 01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:10,655 I think that people become violent 1212 01:09:10,772 --> 01:09:14,652 when they are deprived of their basic human needs. 1213 01:09:15,652 --> 01:09:20,579 I think that they become violent when that is their only alternative 1214 01:09:20,698 --> 01:09:22,826 to achieving the satisfaction of those needs. 1215 01:09:23,951 --> 01:09:27,296 A major component of our democratic society 1216 01:09:28,039 --> 01:09:30,963 comes from the preamble to the Constitution 1217 01:09:31,084 --> 01:09:35,885 which states that an individual is guaranteed the rights to life, 1218 01:09:36,005 --> 01:09:38,849 liberty and the pursuit of happiness. 1219 01:09:38,966 --> 01:09:40,058 The rights to life. 1220 01:09:42,095 --> 01:09:44,769 It seems paradoxical to me that 1221 01:09:44,889 --> 01:09:47,563 a nation with such ideals 1222 01:09:48,476 --> 01:09:50,524 and such economic power 1223 01:09:51,437 --> 01:09:56,034 still cannot fulfill or seems unwilling to fulfill 1224 01:09:56,150 --> 01:09:57,367 basic human needs 1225 01:09:57,485 --> 01:09:59,954 of food, clothing and shelter. 1226 01:10:03,074 --> 01:10:05,247 (Policeman) The decoy seems to have worked very well. 1227 01:10:06,035 --> 01:10:07,833 It's brought them out in the open. 1228 01:10:07,954 --> 01:10:09,171 They've reached the decoy. 1229 01:10:09,288 --> 01:10:12,417 (Alison) A country with this economic power and those kinds of ideals 1230 01:10:12,542 --> 01:10:13,794 still at this point 1231 01:10:13,918 --> 01:10:17,843 can't feed 11 million people, according to a government survey. 1232 01:10:20,133 --> 01:10:22,852 (Policeman) Your participation in the course is terminated. 1233 01:10:24,971 --> 01:10:29,818 Temperature 111 degrees. 1234 01:10:29,934 --> 01:10:32,904 Still can't feed 11 million people, can't clothe those people, 1235 01:10:33,020 --> 01:10:36,320 even though they're producing those things in overabundance. 1236 01:10:37,567 --> 01:10:40,616 Now why is that? And if you have someone who can't get food stamps 1237 01:10:40,737 --> 01:10:42,660 and who can't get on welfare and who is starving, 1238 01:10:42,780 --> 01:10:45,124 that person has two alternatives 1239 01:10:45,241 --> 01:10:48,586 he or she can either sit there and watch his children starve... 1240 01:10:50,079 --> 01:10:52,423 or go out and fight for what he needs. 1241 01:10:52,540 --> 01:10:54,258 (Policeman) Stop where you are. 1242 01:10:54,375 --> 01:10:57,925 Sit down, cross your legs and keep your hands behind your head. 1243 01:11:00,006 --> 01:11:03,636 Stop where you are! Sit down where you are! 1244 01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:07,014 Cross your legs and put your hands behind your head. 1245 01:11:07,138 --> 01:11:08,515 You're under arrest. 1246 01:11:08,639 --> 01:11:10,482 I think they can't hear you. 1247 01:11:11,225 --> 01:11:13,353 Stop where you are! 1248 01:11:15,438 --> 01:11:16,485 Stop! 1249 01:11:19,233 --> 01:11:21,031 Stop where you are! 1250 01:11:22,528 --> 01:11:26,032 Stop. Sit down. Go back or I shall shoot to kill. 1251 01:11:27,450 --> 01:11:29,293 I don't think they can hear you. Just a minute. 1252 01:11:29,410 --> 01:11:31,708 Get back. There seems to be some confusion here. 1253 01:11:31,829 --> 01:11:34,423 Stop where you are! 1254 01:11:34,540 --> 01:11:36,133 Sit down! 1255 01:11:36,250 --> 01:11:38,298 Now come on. Slow up. They can't hear you. 1256 01:11:38,419 --> 01:11:40,763 Sit down! Sit down! 1257 01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:42,723 Sit down! 1258 01:11:46,302 --> 01:11:47,849 Fuck! 1259 01:11:52,934 --> 01:11:54,151 Go on! Get the gun! 1260 01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:57,238 Dear Lord, 1261 01:11:57,980 --> 01:12:01,359 we pray for Harold. 1262 01:12:06,489 --> 01:12:10,289 Violence is inherent in this society. You don't seem to understand that. 1263 01:12:11,202 --> 01:12:14,206 You fucking bastards! Get out of here! 1264 01:12:14,330 --> 01:12:16,674 The movement went through a long time in history 1265 01:12:16,791 --> 01:12:20,967 and was very reluctant to make radical changes, to become violent. 1266 01:12:21,087 --> 01:12:23,306 We saw the government would only make changes 1267 01:12:23,422 --> 01:12:25,470 when we did become violent. 1268 01:12:25,591 --> 01:12:27,639 (Chairman) Violent, violent, violent, violent. 1269 01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,888 Yes, violence, Mr Chairman. 1270 01:12:30,012 --> 01:12:33,687 I think we should realise the dangerous extent to which... 1271 01:12:33,808 --> 01:12:35,685 You wish the floor, Defence Counsel? 1272 01:12:35,810 --> 01:12:37,778 - Yes, I do! Yes, I do! - Then get up. 1273 01:12:39,856 --> 01:12:43,577 We should realise the degree to which the violence of the students 1274 01:12:43,693 --> 01:12:48,540 is now being overplayed and that of the establishment is being minimised. 1275 01:12:51,367 --> 01:12:54,416 (Alison) You are trying to put radicals on trial as scapegoats 1276 01:12:54,537 --> 01:12:56,665 for the problems of your own system. 1277 01:12:59,667 --> 01:13:01,260 It's rather appropriate 1278 01:13:01,836 --> 01:13:03,804 that Harold was a poet. 1279 01:13:03,921 --> 01:13:06,470 There's no place for a poet in this culture. 1280 01:13:07,717 --> 01:13:11,893 It's so hard to have any hope about anything 1281 01:13:12,930 --> 01:13:17,857 after you see how completely inhuman people can be. 1282 01:13:21,689 --> 01:13:24,283 We must draw this cross-examination to a close. 1283 01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:26,277 There was no need to do that. 1284 01:13:26,402 --> 01:13:28,200 I'm sitting here chained in the chair 1285 01:13:28,321 --> 01:13:30,995 and you don't need to send these people you train 1286 01:13:31,115 --> 01:13:32,412 to behave like mad dogs. 1287 01:13:32,533 --> 01:13:36,788 I have a very important part of the hearing to talk to you about... 1288 01:13:36,913 --> 01:13:38,881 I don't think you know what's important, 1289 01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:42,590 the amnesty provision and I want to read it to you. 1290 01:13:42,710 --> 01:13:45,384 Your signing of a voluntary pledge of loyalty 1291 01:13:45,504 --> 01:13:48,758 that you will not again participate in any form or manner 1292 01:13:48,883 --> 01:13:51,511 of extra-legal or subversive political activity, 1293 01:13:51,636 --> 01:13:54,310 and that you will not again hinder State or Federal authorities 1294 01:13:54,430 --> 01:13:58,060 in matters relating to safeguarding of the national security. 1295 01:13:58,184 --> 01:14:01,188 I am loyal to the people of this country, Your Honour, 1296 01:14:01,312 --> 01:14:03,440 or whatever your title is. 1297 01:14:03,564 --> 01:14:07,740 I am not loyal to the government because it is against the people. 1298 01:14:08,986 --> 01:14:11,034 Hands behind your head. Come out. 1299 01:14:11,155 --> 01:14:14,750 Don't shoot them! Don't shoot them! They're all right! 1300 01:14:14,867 --> 01:14:16,835 Tell them not to shoot! 1301 01:14:16,953 --> 01:14:19,251 Tell that fucker not to shoot! 1302 01:14:19,372 --> 01:14:20,965 Tell them not to shoot. 1303 01:14:21,082 --> 01:14:22,299 Wait! 1304 01:14:22,416 --> 01:14:24,510 Tell that nigger to put his hands up where I can see them. 1305 01:14:24,627 --> 01:14:25,753 Fuck you! 1306 01:14:27,797 --> 01:14:30,971 Come on! Come on! Come on! There's a camera crew here! 1307 01:14:31,092 --> 01:14:32,344 I don't give a fuck who's there. 1308 01:14:32,468 --> 01:14:34,391 (Reporter) Ease up! Ease up! 1309 01:14:34,512 --> 01:14:36,059 (Woman) Murderer! 1310 01:14:36,180 --> 01:14:38,103 Put your hands behind your head. 1311 01:14:38,224 --> 01:14:40,192 You're just waiting to kill us. 1312 01:14:40,309 --> 01:14:43,688 Take pictures of this! They're gonna kill us! 1313 01:14:45,690 --> 01:14:49,035 I think there is a chance to make it through this course 1314 01:14:49,151 --> 01:14:50,619 and I think we're going to do it. 1315 01:14:50,736 --> 01:14:53,285 We have to not lose hope and keep on going. 1316 01:14:53,406 --> 01:14:55,249 We don't have any guns. 1317 01:14:56,701 --> 01:14:59,705 Please watch them, don't leave! Come on! 1318 01:14:59,829 --> 01:15:02,753 Our choice is whether to submit to this self-destruction 1319 01:15:02,873 --> 01:15:04,591 passively or violently. 1320 01:15:04,709 --> 01:15:07,758 That's the only choice I see. 1321 01:15:07,878 --> 01:15:10,097 Fucking liar! You'll shoot us in the back! 1322 01:15:10,214 --> 01:15:11,261 Keep back. Keep back, now. 1323 01:15:13,217 --> 01:15:16,096 So you feel that, just as you feel 1324 01:15:17,430 --> 01:15:19,808 there's a reason for going on through the course, 1325 01:15:19,932 --> 01:15:22,685 this is the same way to try and deal with 1326 01:15:23,269 --> 01:15:27,115 what you feel is wrong with the system in America? 1327 01:15:29,734 --> 01:15:34,456 I think that's right. Yeah. 1328 01:15:35,281 --> 01:15:37,158 I think if you play it 1329 01:15:37,283 --> 01:15:40,628 by the rules of the people who've set up the game, 1330 01:15:42,288 --> 01:15:44,632 even though they're stacked against you, 1331 01:15:44,749 --> 01:15:48,003 that's the only way to possibly win the game. 1332 01:15:48,127 --> 01:15:50,550 (Reporter) Don't do that! Don't do that! 1333 01:15:50,963 --> 01:15:53,432 (Shouting continues) 1334 01:15:54,467 --> 01:15:55,719 Get down! 1335 01:15:56,969 --> 01:15:59,347 You goddamn motherfucking weekend warriors! 1336 01:15:59,472 --> 01:16:00,644 You killed them! 1337 01:16:00,765 --> 01:16:02,688 (Reporter) Oh, God! 1338 01:16:03,976 --> 01:16:05,148 Oh, God. 1339 01:16:06,353 --> 01:16:08,481 Motherfuckers! 1340 01:16:09,982 --> 01:16:11,404 You murderers! 1341 01:16:11,525 --> 01:16:14,529 Cut! Cut! 1342 01:16:14,653 --> 01:16:16,371 Kill him! 1343 01:16:17,239 --> 01:16:18,912 Leave him alone! Leave him alone! 1344 01:16:19,033 --> 01:16:20,751 That's an accident! 1345 01:16:24,538 --> 01:16:26,131 Put that fucking rock down, boy! 1346 01:16:26,248 --> 01:16:29,218 Cut the camera! 1347 01:16:31,462 --> 01:16:34,557 I feel very little hope for us. 1348 01:16:34,673 --> 01:16:36,391 I don't see any hope either way. 1349 01:16:36,509 --> 01:16:38,637 It's simply a matter of what you believe in. 1350 01:16:38,761 --> 01:16:42,982 Either you believe in non-violence or you don't. 1351 01:16:43,099 --> 01:16:44,316 And, if you do, 1352 01:16:44,433 --> 01:16:47,277 many times there's only one path left to you 1353 01:16:47,394 --> 01:16:50,819 and you have to take that, no matter what it means to you. 1354 01:16:52,149 --> 01:16:56,700 Now, come on. Help these people! Help these people! Help them. 1355 01:16:57,363 --> 01:16:58,660 Help them. 1356 01:16:59,365 --> 01:17:00,708 That one's dead. 1357 01:17:05,621 --> 01:17:07,089 (Gunshots) 1358 01:17:07,206 --> 01:17:10,176 Oh, you fuckers! You fuckers! 1359 01:17:10,292 --> 01:17:12,715 You shitty fucking cunts! 1360 01:17:16,132 --> 01:17:18,260 We've got one left alive, huh? 1361 01:17:18,384 --> 01:17:20,307 Fucking idiots! 1362 01:17:21,971 --> 01:17:26,568 We've seen this! We've seen this! We've seen this! 1363 01:17:26,684 --> 01:17:29,153 Officer Edwards, we've seen this! 1364 01:17:29,270 --> 01:17:31,398 I don't give a flying fuck what you've seen! 1365 01:17:31,522 --> 01:17:33,490 This is going on NBC! 1366 01:17:33,607 --> 01:17:34,859 We've seen this! 1367 01:17:34,984 --> 01:17:36,827 I don't care if you take it and jam it in your ass. 1368 01:17:36,944 --> 01:17:40,039 You murdering bastards! You fucking bastards! 1369 01:17:41,699 --> 01:17:44,452 As soon as you get through with your little hysterics, we can go on. 1370 01:17:44,577 --> 01:17:46,875 Hysterics, mate? You wait until you see yourself on TV. 1371 01:17:46,996 --> 01:17:48,873 I've been on TV before. I'm not worried. 1372 01:17:48,998 --> 01:17:51,342 Not like this you haven't. 1373 01:17:51,458 --> 01:17:54,257 Captain, should I call for the ambulances? 1374 01:17:54,378 --> 01:17:57,803 Let the buzzards get the sons-of-bitches. And him too. 1375 01:17:57,923 --> 01:18:00,642 - They threw rocks and... - This man's shook up. 1376 01:18:00,759 --> 01:18:02,261 Leave him alone. 1377 01:18:02,386 --> 01:18:05,105 The gun went off, it was an accident. I didn't want to kill anyone. 1378 01:18:05,222 --> 01:18:06,940 Why did you kill two people? 1379 01:18:07,057 --> 01:18:09,606 I don't know. It was an accident. 1380 01:18:09,727 --> 01:18:12,606 - You didn't mean to kill them? - No, I didn't want to kill anyone. 1381 01:18:12,730 --> 01:18:13,856 You didn't want to kill them? 1382 01:18:13,981 --> 01:18:16,279 No! No! 1383 01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:20,075 No, I didn't want to kill anyone! It was an accident! 1384 01:18:20,196 --> 01:18:24,076 Hey! Leave him alone. Leave him alone! 1385 01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:26,453 I didn't want to kill anyone, it was an accident. 1386 01:18:26,577 --> 01:18:29,797 - How old is this kid? - He's 18. 1387 01:18:29,914 --> 01:18:33,635 What's a kid doing in the National Guard if he can't use weapons? 1388 01:18:33,751 --> 01:18:35,924 - He's trained to use them. - Trained to use them? 1389 01:18:36,045 --> 01:18:38,389 What do you expect with all those men throwing rocks? 1390 01:18:38,505 --> 01:18:42,726 - You mean he's trained to kill people? - Yes, he is. To defend his country. 1391 01:18:42,843 --> 01:18:45,221 He's trained to defend his country! 1392 01:18:45,346 --> 01:18:48,190 You mean he's trained to kill unarmed people like that? 1393 01:18:49,058 --> 01:18:50,605 It was an accident! 1394 01:18:51,685 --> 01:18:53,904 It was an accident. They were throwing rocks. 1395 01:18:54,021 --> 01:18:56,069 The gun just went off. I didn't know what happened. 1396 01:18:56,190 --> 01:18:57,863 What are you going to say to their parents? 1397 01:18:57,983 --> 01:19:01,453 Come on, soldier. Let's go. Come on. Let's go. 1398 01:19:01,570 --> 01:19:03,664 (News reporter) 'President Nixon in San Clemente, California, 1399 01:19:03,781 --> 01:19:06,204 'sent a telegram for reading at the Artists' Variety Show. 1400 01:19:06,325 --> 01:19:08,293 'The Chief Executive told the artists: 1401 01:19:08,410 --> 01:19:11,835 "We Americans are known throughout the world as forward-looking people.' 1402 01:19:11,956 --> 01:19:16,006 'The President said the USA is a symbol of progress, of hope 1403 01:19:16,126 --> 01:19:17,969 'and of just and orderly growth.' 1404 01:19:19,213 --> 01:19:22,513 (Newsreader) 'Seven flights of B-52 bombers hit guerrilla infiltration routes 1405 01:19:22,633 --> 01:19:24,727 'along the Cambodian border north of Saigon today.'. 1406 01:19:31,850 --> 01:19:35,571 The afternoon of the following day. 1407 01:19:48,784 --> 01:19:52,334 (Chairman) This has been a session marred by continual disruptive outbursts, 1408 01:19:52,454 --> 01:19:55,048 in direct defiance of judicial authority, 1409 01:19:55,165 --> 01:19:57,133 by the defendants and Defence Counsel. 1410 01:19:57,251 --> 01:20:00,346 Outbursts in the form of constant murmurs. 1411 01:20:00,462 --> 01:20:03,841 This disruption is a further example of what I've been referring to. 1412 01:20:03,966 --> 01:20:10,315 Marshal, you'll restrain the prisoner if he makes any more outbursts. 1413 01:20:10,431 --> 01:20:14,402 Outbursts in the form of constant murmurs and derision, 1414 01:20:14,518 --> 01:20:16,862 shouting profanity and abuse. 1415 01:20:16,979 --> 01:20:20,279 No record, no matter how skilfully transcribed... 1416 01:20:20,399 --> 01:20:22,618 - We'll have quiet here! - Or what? 1417 01:20:24,069 --> 01:20:26,993 can adequately portray the venom, sarcasm, 1418 01:20:27,114 --> 01:20:29,287 and tone of voice employed by a speaker. 1419 01:20:29,408 --> 01:20:32,628 This has been a session marked by guffaws, cheap theatrics 1420 01:20:32,745 --> 01:20:35,294 and other affectations used by the defendants 1421 01:20:35,414 --> 01:20:37,587 in an attempt to break up these proceedings. 1422 01:20:38,625 --> 01:20:42,004 Despite these outbursts, the proceedings have been conducted 1423 01:20:42,129 --> 01:20:44,257 with impartiality and objectivity, 1424 01:20:44,381 --> 01:20:48,227 as called for by the extreme seriousness of the circumstances. 1425 01:20:48,719 --> 01:20:51,063 Turn him loose! 1426 01:20:53,140 --> 01:20:57,771 These proceedings have been conducted before a nationwide TV audience 1427 01:20:57,895 --> 01:21:00,398 in an attempt to clarify for the American people 1428 01:21:00,522 --> 01:21:01,899 the issues at stake 1429 01:21:02,024 --> 01:21:04,573 as an object lesson for others who may be considering 1430 01:21:04,693 --> 01:21:08,539 the willful and tragic path taken by the defendants who stand before us. 1431 01:21:08,655 --> 01:21:10,874 Defence Counsel, do you have anything to say 1432 01:21:10,991 --> 01:21:15,747 as to why I should not proceed with the sentencing? 1433 01:21:15,871 --> 01:21:17,669 Ladies and Gentlemen of the tribunal, 1434 01:21:17,790 --> 01:21:20,634 I would like to read you something... 1435 01:21:23,879 --> 01:21:27,383 'The streets of our country are in turmoil.' 1436 01:21:27,508 --> 01:21:31,229 'The universities are filled with students rebelling and rioting.' 1437 01:21:31,345 --> 01:21:34,565 'Communists are seeking to destroy our country.' 1438 01:21:34,681 --> 01:21:38,276 'Russia is threatening us with her might' 1439 01:21:38,394 --> 01:21:40,362 'and the Republic is in danger.' 1440 01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:43,528 'Yes, danger from within and without.' 1441 01:21:43,649 --> 01:21:47,279 'We need law and order or our nation cannot survive.' 1442 01:21:51,031 --> 01:21:52,874 We might all be forgiven 1443 01:21:52,991 --> 01:21:55,835 for supposing those to be the words of our President. 1444 01:21:57,704 --> 01:21:59,627 But they are not. 1445 01:21:59,748 --> 01:22:02,797 Those words were uttered in 1932 by Adolf Hitler. 1446 01:22:02,918 --> 01:22:04,966 (Brown) Sieg motherfucking Heil! 1447 01:22:05,087 --> 01:22:08,216 We know what kind of law and order followed in that country. 1448 01:22:10,926 --> 01:22:12,894 You ask if I have anything to say 1449 01:22:13,011 --> 01:22:16,481 to show cause why sentence shouldn't be passed. 1450 01:22:18,684 --> 01:22:20,652 Other than that these are young people 1451 01:22:21,854 --> 01:22:24,403 with all of life before them, 1452 01:22:24,523 --> 01:22:27,993 full citizens of the USA, 1453 01:22:28,110 --> 01:22:30,829 to whom the Constitution and the Bill Of Rights apply. 1454 01:22:32,030 --> 01:22:33,532 No, I can't think of anything. 1455 01:22:51,300 --> 01:22:53,052 Motherfuckers. 1456 01:22:56,513 --> 01:22:58,390 Those bastards. 1457 01:23:02,644 --> 01:23:04,612 - That's it! - We're here. 1458 01:23:04,730 --> 01:23:06,903 That's the flag! We made it. 1459 01:23:13,572 --> 01:23:16,075 What are they doing there? 1460 01:23:19,578 --> 01:23:23,549 Lee Robert Brown: 15 to 21 years in a federal penitentiary. 1461 01:23:24,500 --> 01:23:28,880 Jay Kaufman: 15 to 21 years in a federal penitentiary. 1462 01:23:29,004 --> 01:23:34,386 William Luke Vallery: 7 to 10 years in a federal penitentiary. 1463 01:23:34,510 --> 01:23:37,764 Nancy Jane Smith: 7 years in a federal penitentiary. 1464 01:23:37,888 --> 01:23:41,859 James Arthur Kohler: 5 to 7 years in a federal penitentiary. 1465 01:23:41,975 --> 01:23:45,730 Mary Ellen Michener: 7 to 10 years in a federal penitentiary. 1466 01:23:45,854 --> 01:23:48,653 Charles Robbins: life imprisonment. 1467 01:23:50,651 --> 01:23:53,996 (Policeman) 'At this point your participation in the course is completed. 1468 01:23:54,112 --> 01:23:56,114 'You are to be remanded in custody.'. 1469 01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:57,787 What? 1470 01:23:58,450 --> 01:24:05,800 'Stop right now and no harm will come to you. 1471 01:24:08,085 --> 01:24:10,087 'I don't care how far you've come, you'd better stop. 1472 01:24:11,213 --> 01:24:14,342 'Stop where you are and no harm will come to you.'. 1473 01:24:14,925 --> 01:24:16,097 We made it! 1474 01:24:23,850 --> 01:24:25,102 Stop it! 1475 01:24:38,865 --> 01:24:41,493 Stop it! Stop it! Stop it! 1476 01:24:42,077 --> 01:24:44,375 Cut! Cut! Cut! 1477 01:24:45,289 --> 01:24:48,008 Lee Robert Brown, which do you choose: 1478 01:24:48,125 --> 01:24:50,924 15 to 21 years or Punishment Park? 1479 01:24:55,924 --> 01:24:59,303 Punishment Park. So recorded. 1480 01:24:59,428 --> 01:25:02,728 Jay Kaufman: 15 to 21 years in a federal penitentiary 1481 01:25:02,848 --> 01:25:04,691 or Punishment Park? 1482 01:25:10,105 --> 01:25:12,984 Hey! Leave him alone! Stop that! 1483 01:25:14,901 --> 01:25:16,323 No! 1484 01:25:19,823 --> 01:25:23,748 Jay Kaufman: 15 to 21 years or Punishment Park? 1485 01:25:23,869 --> 01:25:24,961 Punishment Park. 1486 01:25:25,078 --> 01:25:28,048 And I'm heading back here so have your troops around this fucking tent! 1487 01:25:28,165 --> 01:25:31,590 William Luke Vallery: 7 to 10 years in a federal penitentiary, 1488 01:25:31,710 --> 01:25:33,053 or Punishment Park? 1489 01:25:33,170 --> 01:25:34,763 Punishment Park. 1490 01:25:35,547 --> 01:25:36,969 So recorded. 1491 01:25:37,090 --> 01:25:39,593 Nancy Jane Smith: 7 years in a federal penitentiary, 1492 01:25:39,718 --> 01:25:41,812 or Punishment Park? 1493 01:25:43,639 --> 01:25:45,312 Punishment Park. 1494 01:25:45,432 --> 01:25:46,399 So recorded. 1495 01:25:46,516 --> 01:25:49,235 James Arthur Kohler: 5 to 7 years in a federal penitentiary, 1496 01:25:49,353 --> 01:25:50,900 or Punishment Park? 1497 01:25:55,025 --> 01:25:56,652 I'll take the Park. 1498 01:25:56,777 --> 01:25:59,280 Take Punishment Park. So recorded. 1499 01:25:59,404 --> 01:26:02,157 Mary Ellen Michener: 7 to 10 years in a penitentiary, 1500 01:26:02,282 --> 01:26:03,408 or Punishment Park? 1501 01:26:03,533 --> 01:26:05,501 - Punishment Park. - So recorded. 1502 01:26:06,203 --> 01:26:07,420 Charles Robbins, 1503 01:26:07,537 --> 01:26:09,756 with a nod, do you want life imprisonment, 1504 01:26:09,873 --> 01:26:12,171 or, shake your head, Punishment Park? 1505 01:26:19,591 --> 01:26:21,343 How can he talk? 1506 01:26:23,470 --> 01:26:24,972 Shake your head... 1507 01:26:28,684 --> 01:26:30,527 You're gonna kill him, you fucking idiot! 1508 01:26:30,644 --> 01:26:32,362 Mr Chairman... 1509 01:26:33,605 --> 01:26:36,905 Clear the court! Clear the court! We've already made the sentences. 1510 01:26:37,025 --> 01:26:38,743 I feel so ashamed. 1511 01:26:41,571 --> 01:26:43,494 Nobody's touching that flag! 1512 01:26:44,616 --> 01:26:46,710 They were just surrendering peaceably. 1513 01:26:46,827 --> 01:26:49,455 My Christ, I've heard about the American police! 1514 01:26:49,579 --> 01:26:52,298 I'm glad you got to see it. Tell all your friends about it. 1515 01:26:52,416 --> 01:26:55,420 Send them postcards from England, because that's where they'll listen. 1516 01:26:55,544 --> 01:26:57,217 This is going on European TV... 1517 01:26:57,337 --> 01:26:59,305 I don't give a good goddamn where it goes! 1518 01:26:59,423 --> 01:27:01,221 And France and Germany! 1519 01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:06,183 - Remind all you... - Bloody barbarians! 1520 01:27:06,304 --> 01:27:09,308 Remind you bloody European bastards of the goddamn American soldiers 1521 01:27:09,433 --> 01:27:12,061 that are dead in your goddamn country when you're talking about it! 1522 01:27:13,186 --> 01:27:15,029 10 minutes later... 1523 01:27:18,316 --> 01:27:20,910 - Why did you do that? - Because they goddamn deserved it. 1524 01:27:21,027 --> 01:27:22,995 They killed two officers! 1525 01:27:23,113 --> 01:27:26,162 That wasn't part of the goddamn game. 1526 01:27:26,283 --> 01:27:28,001 Don't you goddamn come near us. 1527 01:27:28,118 --> 01:27:32,419 We're just doing our job and I'm tired of you hassling us! 1528 01:27:32,539 --> 01:27:34,837 Can you tell us why you did what you did? 1529 01:27:34,958 --> 01:27:38,007 For the same reason he did. They had it coming to them. 1530 01:27:38,128 --> 01:27:41,758 They had a chance to stop. Did they stop? I'm asking you. 1531 01:27:41,882 --> 01:27:43,475 Because they rushed us. 1532 01:27:43,592 --> 01:27:45,765 That's not a reason, man! That's not a reason! 1533 01:27:45,886 --> 01:27:48,560 They wouldn't have rushed us if you hadn't been there. 1534 01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:49,932 Oh, shit. 1535 01:27:50,056 --> 01:27:51,933 You were the one who started this. 1536 01:27:52,058 --> 01:27:53,401 I started it? 1537 01:27:53,518 --> 01:27:56,647 I told the man to stop. The captain told the man to stop. 1538 01:27:56,772 --> 01:27:59,867 And that's all there is to it. He didn't stop. He attacked me. 1539 01:27:59,983 --> 01:28:03,032 I don't care what the fuck you think. How does that sound? 1540 01:28:03,153 --> 01:28:05,121 I don't care what the hell you think. 1541 01:28:05,238 --> 01:28:08,082 You can do with your newsreels whatever you want. 1542 01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:10,874 This is the second night this has happened. 1543 01:28:13,747 --> 01:28:16,591 You could have let those four people come straight through. 1544 01:28:16,708 --> 01:28:19,336 Had they wanted to they could have done that. 1545 01:28:19,461 --> 01:28:23,716 We're dealing with criminals who have killed two of my men. 1546 01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:27,811 As it happens these four people have not hurt a goddamn fly 1547 01:28:27,928 --> 01:28:28,975 on the entire desert. 1548 01:28:29,095 --> 01:28:31,063 Do you think we'd let them reach that flag? 1549 01:28:31,181 --> 01:28:32,899 Do you think they deserve that flag? 1550 01:28:33,016 --> 01:28:36,441 They belong to this country as much as you do. 1551 01:28:36,561 --> 01:28:39,189 They care about this country as much as you do. 1552 01:28:39,314 --> 01:28:41,362 What the hell are they doing out here? 1553 01:28:41,483 --> 01:28:46,159 They gave up their rights when they started breaking this country's laws. 1554 01:28:46,279 --> 01:28:50,625 That's what we're here for: To enforce those laws. 1555 01:28:50,742 --> 01:28:54,417 And we do a goddamn good job of it! 1556 01:28:54,538 --> 01:28:57,087 You're making out like a big humanitarian. 1557 01:28:57,207 --> 01:29:00,757 The only thing you want is to sell this to your goddamn network. 1558 01:29:01,336 --> 01:29:04,931 I don't see you putting any band-aids on anybody. 1559 01:29:05,048 --> 01:29:08,848 All you want is the money for this programme. 1560 01:29:08,969 --> 01:29:14,146 You could have opened your ranks and let them go through. 1561 01:29:14,266 --> 01:29:17,611 This happened in Chicago. It happened in Los Angeles. 1562 01:29:17,727 --> 01:29:19,229 Hey buddy, were you at Chicago? 1563 01:29:19,354 --> 01:29:21,857 It'll happen as long as we've got this type to deal with. 1564 01:29:23,692 --> 01:29:25,035 (Gavel knocks) 1565 01:29:25,151 --> 01:29:27,074 Get the defendants out of here. 1566 01:29:30,448 --> 01:29:33,418 You see what your great land is all about? 1567 01:29:39,207 --> 01:29:40,584 No, we haven't cheated. 1568 01:29:40,709 --> 01:29:44,054 You cheated. You never intended to let them finish the course. 1569 01:29:44,170 --> 01:29:45,547 You're full of shit. 1570 01:29:45,672 --> 01:29:46,969 You had radios. 1571 01:29:47,090 --> 01:29:49,092 They've obviously been under control. 1572 01:29:49,217 --> 01:29:51,595 You have your opinion. There's nothing that will change it 1573 01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:53,722 and it isn't worth my valuable time to talk to you. 1574 01:29:53,847 --> 01:29:55,349 Keep these sons of bitches out of here. 1575 01:29:55,473 --> 01:29:58,101 - That's bullshit! - We've had enough of this. 1576 01:29:58,226 --> 01:30:02,197 The 48th Emergency Internal Security Tribunal of the SW region, 1577 01:30:03,189 --> 01:30:05,942 as authorised by Executive Order No. 302, 1578 01:30:06,067 --> 01:30:09,571 William C. Hoeger, Chairman, presiding, 1579 01:30:09,696 --> 01:30:11,915 is hereby concluded. 1580 01:30:12,032 --> 01:30:15,787 - What have they done to her head? - They've bashed her about the jaw. 1581 01:30:25,253 --> 01:30:28,598 Since the completion of this film 1582 01:30:29,549 --> 01:30:32,348 one of the members of its cast. 1583 01:30:32,469 --> 01:30:35,439 Appearing as defendant Charles Robbins. 1584 01:30:36,139 --> 01:30:38,892 Has been indicted on a charge 1585 01:30:39,017 --> 01:30:41,361 of conspiracy to bomb. 1586 01:30:42,395 --> 01:30:44,113 The sentence on this charge 1587 01:30:44,230 --> 01:30:46,858 has not yet been determined. 1588 01:30:47,859 --> 01:30:49,611 For a second charge 1589 01:30:49,736 --> 01:30:52,330 of assault on a police officer 1590 01:30:53,448 --> 01:30:57,123 this cast member has been sentenced 1591 01:30:57,243 --> 01:31:00,918 to 3 years in a federal prison.