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Viewing cable 09BUENOSAIRES118, ARGENTINA: SPANISH AMBASSADOR PREVIEWS CFK'S
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09BUENOSAIRES118 | 2009-02-04 14:39 | 2011-03-14 07:00 | CONFIDENTIAL | Embassy Buenos Aires |
Appears in these articles: http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1357238-evaluaron-echar-a-la-argentina-del-g-20 http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1357239-gestiones-ante-el-gobierno-para-pedir-un-cambio |
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TAGS: PGOV PREL ECON EFIN ETRD SP AR
SUBJECT: ARGENTINA: SPANISH AMBASSADOR PREVIEWS CFK'S
PROBLEMATIC VISIT TO MADRID
REF: MADRID 0084
Classified By: Ambassador E. Anthony Wayne for reasons 1.4 (B) and (D).
¶1. (C) Ambassador met with Spanish Ambassador Rafael
Estrella February 2 to discuss the February 9-11 visit of
Argentine President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner (CFK) to
Madrid. Estrella, a well-connected former politician,
offered the following thoughts on the visit.
¶2. (C) Efforts to Postpone: Estrella confided that CFK and
her advisors, notably husband Nestor Kirchner, are very
worried about the February visit going awry given the
commercial tensions in the relationship. Twice in recent
weeks, the Spanish Ambassador had to weigh in with Cabinet
Minister Massa to keep the visit, already rescheduled several
times (most recently in October), from being postponed once
again. First, when CFK fell ill and postponed her January
11-16 trip to Cuba and Venezuela to January 18-23, the
Argentines tried to postpone the trip to Spain, pointing to
the President's need not to get too tired. Then, after her
trip to Cuba, the Spanish Ambassador heard from his Argentine
counterpart that CFK was going to postpone to March or later,
expressing worry about the negative reception CFK would
receive because of outstanding commercial disputes. In both
cases, Estrella weighed in with Massa to argue that
postponing would have more negative effects than going and
would send the wrong signals to friends of Argentina in the
government of Spain. He said he believes his Argentine
counterpart also weighed in the second time, and the trip was
salvaged. (CFK did cancel, however, another major trip also
contemplated for February -- to India and South Korea, the
former because of the PM's surgery.)
¶3. (C) Spanish Business and Press Hostile: Still, Estrella
said, CFK is worried about her reception by Spanish business
and in the press. This worry is well-founded. Spanish
business and financial organizations in Spain are very upset
with the GOA (he noted the tremendous fall in the Madrid
stock market when the GOA announced the nationalization of
private pension funds). The Spanish media is disillusioned.
CFK's pre-election visit had raised hopes about better
Spanish-Argentine relations, but her presidency has fallen
far short of those expectations. Views within the Spanish
Government, he added, are divided. The economic side of the
house is very upset with the GoA, while the more political
side sees the value in maintaining dialogue and trying to
elicit coordination with the GoA. (Note: CFK made headlines
here in August when she acidly criticized the Spanish Central
Bank for rating Argentina as a country of ""elevated risk"" for
investment.)
¶4. (C) Limiting Exposure: To limit contact with those
critical of CFK, her staff will allow only private meetings
with the heads of major Spanish companies invested in
Argentina and remarks in a carefully controlled context. One
of the company CEOs to meet with CFK will be Repsol, whose
leader plans to go over the economic hardships currently
confronting the company.
¶5. (C) Big Work Agenda: the Nationalization of Spanish-owned
Aerolineas Argentinas and of the private pension funds
(including the fund operated by Spanish Bank BBVA Banco
Frances), the plight of other Spanish companies, including a
local energy generation and distribution company and
Telefonica, developments in the region, the G-20 process, and
on the more positive side improved anti-narcotics cooperation
are among the items on the agenda.
¶6. (C) Trade: The Spanish plan to explore restarting the
Mercosur-EU trade liberalization process. Apparently, the
Argentine MFA would like to see this process restart, in part
to offset the very negative stance Argentina took in the Doha
WTO talks.
¶7. (C) Airlines: Aerolineas Argentinas compensation talks
between the GoA Transportation Secretariat and Spanish
company Marsans, which used to own the airlines, continue,
but it is not clear when they might come to conclusion.
¶8. (C) Pension Funds: AFJP Nationalization left the Spanish
investor BBVA/Banco Frances without compensation for the
expropriation of its pension fund, ""Consolidar."" There has
been no progress to date in discussions with the GoA. BBVA
remains most concerned about the status of Consolidar's 3,000
odd employees. It seeks to ensure that most of them are
hired by the Argentine Social Security Agency (ANSES).
¶9. (C) Energy: In addition to Repsol, which had felt
squeezed by GoA policies for some time, Spanish-owned ENDESA
controls three important power generators in Argentina, as
well as the EDESUR electricity distribution company for the
southern part of Buenos Aires city and province. The GoA has
been putting great pressure on EDESUR to increase production
and investment, but so far its pressure has been low-key
(probably because of the very public dispute over Aerolineas
Argentina).
¶10. (C) Toll Roads: Two Spanish companies hold toll road
concessions around Buenos Aires. One has received a needed
toll rate increase, and the other has not, pending a 10%
purchase by local investors.
¶11. (C) Telephones: Spanish telephone giant Telefonica
faces concerns from Argentina's anti-trust authorities about
its new ownership stakes in Italy's Telecom, which is also
present in the country. GoA authorities are blocking Telecom
from acting on this option to buy out some Argentine
investors in the local Telecom operation (Madrid 84). So
far, the Argentine investors (the Wertheim family) seem to
have maneuvered to retain and perhaps expand their control in
the local Telecom operation.
¶12. (C) Fighting Drugs: On the positive side, narcotics
cooperation has significantly improved since the countries
signed an MOU in 2007. Much more intelligence is being
shared and arrests have moved from individual smugglers to
taking down smuggling networks.
¶13. (C) G-20: On the G-20 process, the Spanish Ambassador
said he was hopeful that the UK would find a way to have
Spain present at the April summit and that the Spanish
President would likely discuss the topic with CFK. He noted,
however, that her presentation at the first G-20 meeting in
November had not been very effective, and he wondered if she
would again use the opportunity to tout the ""Argentina model""
rather that helping leaders find solutions.
¶14. (C) Traveling Party: There are rumors that Nestor
Kirchner might accompany CFK on this trip. Also, the press
is reporting that the head of the powerful CGT union
confederation and the chief of the Argentine Industry
Federation (UIA) might accompany CFK.
WAYNE