No.376051479

because birth is so much like death... makes perfect sense
inb4failtroll
0/9001

No.376051512

Shameless self bump.

No.376051630

>implying babbys have any higher cognitive functions other than breathing, eating, crying, and shitting everywhere.

No.376051898

unborn babies cant see anything even for a while after birth

No.376052299

>-29/10

No.376052405

Except the existence of "mother" can be tested empirically and verified.

No.376052429

accept zygotes and fetuses don't have complex thought because they aren't alive until they are able to live without relying on their host, or mother (I also believe this of retarded and deformed people who cannot form complex thought or survive without assistance)
also calling yourself "Jesus" is being a false prophet and I'm pretty sure that's against the bible that I think you believe in so, congratulations you're going to the hell you also believe in

No.376052460

DIE DIE DIE MY DARLING!! this thread lived long enouuugh!

No.376052528

im not even athiest and i think thats fucking retarded

No.376052648

Okay /b/tards. This analogy makes perfect sense. Our "intelligence" vs. an infinite universe is equal to a baby in the womb. Keep in mind I'm agnostic, came from a hardcore christian/catholic/baptised family.

No.376053031

>>376051630

Implying you have the "cognitive function" to see God. LOL!

No.376053196

oh, also, how do you know you aren't in the symbolic womb of the universe awaiting the believed to be "end of life". You look at the big picture and it makes sense.

No.376053199

>>376053031
Exactly bahaha

No.376053342

>>376051268

No.376053346

>implying babbys can't hear shit going on outside the womb

Alright candy-ass, at 22 - 23 weeks babby hears everything just fine. When do we start hearing the voice of God, exactly?

No.376053498

>>376053031
that's what I'm saiyan.

No.376053757

That was, without qustion, the most retarded 'argument' I've ever encountered.

No.376053797

>>376053346
Theist here.
You start hearing God when you acknowledged that you are always listening to it.

No.376053861

>implying that babies can think about life, let alone anything, and in english.

No.376054069

Just because it's a good analogy (which it is) doesn't make it correct.

No.376054081

>>376053797

Not-a-Deist here. You can stop hearing the voices in your head when you remember to take your pills on time.

No.376054194

a fetus doesn't have the ability to think, it lacks the neural connections required to do so.
Also, explain how they would have heard of this "Mom" creature.

Way to fail OP

No.376054208

Aw theists are cute.

No.376054285

What's with all of these people trying to disprove atheists? Why don't you just leave each other alone and don't give fucks.

No.376054293

>>376051479
>>376051630
>>376052299
>>376052429
>>376053346
>>376053757
>>376053861
Never took a philosophy course.

No.376054342

So we are all inside Jesus' uterus? Ok.

No.376054425

>You start hearing God when you acknowledged that you are always listening to it.

Deepity.

No.376054556

if i saw an umbilical cord flapping down from the sky i'd be willing to consider there's a god

i know these christian checkmate posts are trolls but i admit i can't resist crushing a logical fallacy

No.376054712

>>376054081
I literally laughed out loud. Your ignorance on the voice of god amuses me.

No.376054909

babies think mother is god
somehow come to this conclusion despite having no evidence
dont come to the conclusion a giant water demon created the world, which would make just as much sense as the unprovable mother theory
christcandy-asss insisting their surprisingly easily disprovable and completely baseless theory is the mother one and not the water demon, lesbian leprechaun, pedophilic gangster or whatever other retarded shit a baby could also come up with theory
atheism is not the insistance that we know how the universe works, just the insistance that your theory on how the world works has yet to be proven in any way whatsoever, and is consequently fucking retarded

No.376054918

>>376053346

When you are first indoctrinated by your retarded parents into believing in the same invisible man they do.

I'm sorry, but if you reach the age of cognitive processing without having been taught the basics of rational and critical thinking, then your parents have failed at life. This planet has enough drooling morons who are incapable of thought.

No.376054929

>>376054556

>crushing a logical fallacy

yeah you sure did that in your post LOL

No.376054947

>>376053346
>>376054293

Ex-theologian for the Catholic church actually. There's a key difference between not understanding your shitty metaphor, and not wanting to play footsie with your bullshit ideals.

No.376055102

>>376054293
That's what I also thought.
>>376054194
Cool. We can also say humans don't have the neural connections to perceive a God, hear a God, or feel the existence of God. Maybe the few that were special enough that could were reached out to by God and he got them to write the Bible because his godness is too godly for paper and pencil.

No.376055166

>>376054293
Took a Philosophy 101 course and thinks he knows everything now. I bet you believe in dualism too.

No.376055706

>>376055102

Do you even know what a neural connection is?
they are what allow us to process memories and think.
I was saying that fetuses lack the capability to think

No.376056111

>>376055706
Thanks Captain Obvious. Try to think deeper please, it'll help you later in life.

No.376056130

>>376055706
Not that I'm involved in this conversation, but do you know what a neural connection is? I'm just wondering why you haven't used the word 'synapse.'

No.376056146

>>376054909

how do you know god isnt the mother theory? god makes a lot more sense than any retarded "hurr durr shit existed from nothing" explanation

also there is a mountain of evidence for god, just look at the bible

No.376056236

>>376055166
Not even. I just am not an entire idiot and I understood to not take the post so...literally.

No.376056385

Man, I keep expecting /b/ to be more intelligent than the average person. It's a shitty analogy, but not because of any of the reasons you fucktards claim. Think about what the analogy is trying to prove versus what it actually proves.

No.376056488

>>376051268
>>376051268
>>376051268
Christcandy-asss faces when they were dead before they were conceived.

No.376056569

>>376055102

1. Agnostic is not a noun, it's an adjective that has no base meaning without an adjoining subject. You are callign yourself 'not very'. Well, not very what?

2. The human brain is so complex that it isn't finished growing in infants until approximately two weeks after BIRTH. It is scientific fact that babies are not capable of anything but base motor function and psychostimulative response prior to that point--they cannot think, remember, log trauma or euphoria as memory in any way, or perceive (this is why circumcision on infants requires no anesthesia--if you can't remember pain as 'pain' after it has occured, it isn't trauma.) The same thing applies to belief structures.

No.376056664

>>376056385
babies think mother is god
somehow come to this conclusion despite having no evidence
dont come to the conclusion a giant water demon created the world, which would make just as much sense as the unprovable mother theory
christcandy-asss insisting their surprisingly easily disprovable and completely baseless theory is the mother one and not the water demon, lesbian leprechaun, pedophilic gangster or whatever other retarded shit a baby could also come up with theory
atheism is not the insistance that we know how the universe works, just the insistance that your theory on how the world works has yet to be proven in any way whatsoever, and is consequently fucking retarded

i think i summed up pretty much what you're saying already, and didnt even have to resort to DURRR BABIES CANT THINK

No.376056699

>>376056146
If you're referring to the Big Bang Theory, I think it's worth mentioning that the man who developed the theory was a Catholic priest. Food for thought.

No.376056906

>>376056236
You're really not making much of a case for yourself that you know anything about philosophy.

No.376056953

So what your saying here is that "god" is our mother, and no matter what we believe, we will both end up in the same place? Your analogy fails. CHECKMATE christians.

No.376057014

>>376056154
made me lol.
to the theists in the audience: Yes, we all understand analogy. The problem is, you can't draw inferences from analogies. This is even more true when the analogy in question implies that unborn fetuses have the ability to contemplate invisible creatures.

Until children reach a certain age, they don't even know that objects have permanence, that is, they don't phase in and out of existence.

When they get older, they realize that people can't turn invisible, things don't appear out of thin air, etc. By your analogy of the babies belief in Mom, you also seem to be saying that we should be like babies, and have no concept of object permanence. And honestly, that's just silly.

No.376057023

>>376052648
>Okay /b/tards. This analogy makes perfect sense. Our "intelligence" vs. an infinite universe is equal to a baby in the womb. Keep in mind I'm agnostic, came from a hardcore christian/catholic/baptised family.

Except that only proof of god is the mutterings of other hairless monkeys. Why should one take what they say seriously?

No.376057130

OP sounds more like a panentheist argument than a theist one.

No.376057215

>>376056664

I salute you sir
Have tits
Fridays tits....MWAHAHAHAAA!!

No.376057370

If god exists, he's really really unkind.
Look at sorry state of human life on earth. It's always been this way and always will be.
Even the best human lives are full of pain and fear. This is why we drink, eat so much shit, kill each other, kill ourselves, watch all that shit on tv. Emptiness and despair coats the population.

No.376057452

>>376057023
apes, sir

No.376057478

>>376056569
Good point, now think about it from this perspective...What if we are that baby (symbolically) Look at how big the universe is, and then look at Earth.

www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123614938

We are those two babies (seven billion now) arguing over who is right, who is wrong, etc. etc. What gives you the right to think there is no mystery in the universe? You cank think that there is mystery because, well, we haven't even left our own galaxies...that's enough of a mystery. Take this as you will, just try to see it from this perspective please.

No.376057527

>>376057370
A simple argument of Philo/Hume himself

No.376057670

I'm an atheist, yet I like the analogy.
People can get so offended by simple
analogies such as this one. It's incredible.

However, it does not speak for christianity,
but for a God or creator. Since OP named himself
Jesus I believe he was referring to christianity.
This doesn't comply with the picture.
In christianity, life after death is split up into
two sections which we all know; heaven and hell.

I as an atheist see the beginning of the universe
as the creator if I had to choose one. Life after
death is the cycle of life. Once I die my matter
will be found in some other creature. After all,
I might be made up of dinosaur shit

No.376057716

>>376056569
... Agnostic is not a noun?
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/agnostic
First entry.

No.376057964

>What gives you the right to think there is no mystery in the universe?
Where did that come from? The atheists here are just saying that it's a poor analogy to use in support of an argument for the existence of god. That's a far step from saying that there's no mystery in the universe.

No.376058012

>>376051268

Counter!
>Creation =/= Death? Highly Unlikely and Ignorant.

Counter!
>Heaven =/= The Clouds; we went "beyond" them.

Counter!
>"Thou Shall Not Kill" -- Crusades anyone?

Counter!
>The Bible = Created by Man = Word of God = Man can Lie = Population Control.


Winning!

>/thread

No.376058038

>>376057670
I'm Christian and I find your point of view fascinating

No.376058061

>>376057716
thank you sir

Also I'm inconsistently putting my name up. I'm the guy with words.

No.376058357

hey /b/rothers, stop thinking of God as in the religious God. Think of God as a higher being who doesn't have anything to do with our silly religions. Suddenly it makes more sense.

No.376058446

>>376057478

That's all well and good, except that the religious baby, metaphorically in your own analogy, is a genocidal, homicidal, oppressive, selfish maniac who is completely incapable of rational thought.

Face it, if that baby were religious in the sense most religious people are, he'd have ostracized, attacked, abused, enslaved or even murdered his twin, depending on what religion he is emulating

Believing in a god is fine, doing so to the point you think you're special or 'set aside' from the rest of the populous and are okay with atrocities committed by others like you and trying to police the world according to your own sacraments is NOT OKAY.

No.376058498

so even if they (don't) believe in mom they will both be born and loved.

meaning that belief is pointless and you go to heaven anyways?

>some dat ass for your amazing philosophy.

No.376058613

>>376051268

Analogy is not proof. It's New Age hippie BS.

No.376058628

Pic related.

Really opened up my eyes.

No.376058667

This analogy isn't quite as good as OP may have thought. I'm not going to even bother explaining why because I really don't think anyone would care. It's a good analogy when explaining creation from a particular angle (the one OP believes) but it's not all encompassing.

No.376058722

>>376058446
Read the post above you /b/ro

Also, fuck religion.

No.376058754

>>376058038

Life and Death can be both seen and felt. Mother Nature can be both seen and felt. So we know right now that "three" extremely deep and mysterious powers exist in the world (and universe); three that we can directly experience, see, and feel.

KARMA is another thing we can see and feel; it can be called "luck" or simply a "coincidence", but honestly this is a fourth mysterious power that exists as a balance here.

You could go as far as saying Time would be the fifth!


Now we can feel and see all of these in a sense; but we cannot see or feel the being known as Jesus and the one named God. I believe in a Creator which I call "God" but not in the same sense as everyone else.

Religion = Form of Control and Manipulation. Free Thought is banished within these communities; where as an "idea" and a "gathered consciousness" is perfectly fine if you don't belong in those cults.

No.376059035

OP doesn't know the definition of the word "trite" it seems.

No.376059043

>>376051268
This is pretty dumb. Just because you don't know something exists because you are inexperienced with it (as the babies with life after birth), does not mean that inferences can be drawn regarding its nature.

Is there life after death? The answer to this is probably no. Is there life after someone falls down a deep hole and we can no longer perceive their whereabouts or hear them? The answer is probably no, but possibly yes.

Just because YOU don't know where someone or something has gone doesn't mean God did it, and just because YOU have a preconceived notion (birth=death) does not make your assertions about what happens afterwards any more valid without evidence.

No.376059104

>>376058498
sounds right to me!

No.376059211

>>376058754
bravo sir.

No.376059554

>>376058754
Everything's mysterious when you make words mean whatever you want.

No.376059651

yes but mom can be proven scientifically, not just sayin "hurr yoo awr rawng heres GAWD

No.376059945

>>376057716

Accepted colloquialism does not equate to truth, merely 'slang'.

Agnostic

A +Gnosis + tic

A - Greek - without; lacking the quality of (example: atheism, areligious)

Gnosis - Greek - certainty, complete and extensiive knowledge regarding (example: diagnosis, prognosis)

Tic - Greek - transformative particle that makes a noun or subject into an adjective that shares the same characteristics (example simple + tic = simplistic)

This word means "not sure". Although it is most commonly associated with religious belief, it has no direct noun attachment and is generally used as a copout to describe a non-existent 'perfect middle ground'. This use is usually done in ignorance from people who want to elevate themselves as superior to both--a hybrid of the best ideas from each side.

No.376059946

>>376054293
didnt want to work at Starbucks my whole life

No.376060092

>>376051268
No, you haven't seen Mom? Interesting, because this umbilical cord here is connected to another biological organism. I'm pretty sure this is what keeps us alive. We could test this by disconnecting it and seeing what happens.

Oh, well, I see, that caused you to die. That's unfortunate. This cord must have a purpose. This verifies that there is a larger, more capable being keeping me alive.

I must be gestating inside of it, and thus will be born. I revise my prior theory. I do believe in Mom, but, I think that I will grow to be similar to her one day long after birth, and that this is all part of the process of reproduction.

It is unfortunate that we chose to terminate you in utero in the name of science, but, your idiocy forced us to do so. Good thing I won't have a Christian brother though. That would have been a pain.

No.376060359

>>376051268
>>376051268
>>376051268
>>376051268
>>376051268
>>376051268
>>376051268
>>376051268
That means we exist because someone fucked God and made him pregnant???
Yeah, very christian! You convinced all of us!

No.376060366

>Accepted colloquialism does not equate to truth

It does in descriptive linguistics. So unless you want to take a prescriptivist position and start arguing about splitting infinitives, ending sentences in prepositions, and beginning sentences with 'hopefully,' I suggest you let this one go.

No.376060424

>>376060092

Awww yeah.

No.376060529

>>376060092
>>376060092
>>376060092
>>376060092
>>376060092
Check mate, bravo.

No.376060627

>>376060424
>>376060529
Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week.

No.376060688

>>376051268
This could be the stupidest fucking thing I've ever read.

No.376060764

>>376057370
>>376057370
>>376057370
Yeah this is the Gnostic view. There is a god, the demiurge, who is flawed or evil.

No.376061016

>>376060092
lol, copied for the next time this pasta shows up.

No.376061099

>>376060092
Implying that you can understand reproduction when you haven't been outside of it to be taught it.

No.376061123

>>376060764
Or, in OP's view, god would be like the prostitute mother to our crack babies.

No.376061193

>>376056869
BWHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHA

No.376061204

>>376051268
>a simplistic and retarded analogy

fix'd

No.376061280

>>376058754
yes very much so.
religions offer people who are imcompetent of creating their own ideas a sort of "template" for living. They are like developers and we are supposed to be consumers. We need to stop devoting our lives to ideas about life after death and our creators. Imo the same applies to science, but that's a completely different discussion

No.376061368

>>376061099
>>376061099
implying a baby can understand the notion of being born like in OP's pic without being taught it. Shut up.

No.376061432

>>376057370
I'm happy, bro. If there is a God, that set up the timeline to put me where I am now, I am somewhat grateful. Wipe off your eyeliner. I don't believe in a God, of course, but if I did, I certainly wouldn't be angry at him for me personally having the life of an upper-class citizen.

No.376061549

Oh look, this thread again

No.376061577

>>376051268
Yeah, a gestating fetus doesn't think, it doesn't remember, and it damn sure doesn't philosophize. It might respond to stimulus but only reflexively.

No.376061704

>>376061577
>Trying to explain science, psychology and human development to christcandy-asss
>2012

ISHYGDDT

Sage all troll threads you fucking retards.

No.376061709

>>376061368
My point being that the T.O.E. that explains everything, including how the universe works and the existence and/or nature of the soul could be something that we cannot confirm or know of, being on the inside looking out.

No.376061716

The existence of "mom" could be tested, if the babies were somehow capable of knowing whats going on. The could say, kick and see fi there was a reaction. Thus proving there's something on the outside. Whereas with God, there's nothing to "kick" to get a response.

No.376061742

>Two babies talking within the womb, only one of them are connected to an umbilical chord
>Conversations about life afterwards

YesThisisWhatChristiansBelieve.jpg

No.376061751

ITT:

>christians telling atheists to think less shallow

oooooooh the irony

No.376061788

Christcandy-ass here...
Even I think this analogy sucks...
And, I read it 10 times and it hasn't yet made any sense...
(originally saw it on Facebook, and thought what is the point...)

No.376061802

>>376061432
Well, that's because you're a selfish, insensitive prick. Your life might be just fine for the moment, but you are grossly outnumbered of billions of innocent people who were basically fucked from birth. If that can be blamed on a single entity, then it should be reviled for the evil misanthrope that it must be.

No.376061846

>>376051268

No.376061887

>>376061099

>Shooting your own argument in the foot by implying that implications about anything cannot be drawn by unconditioned consciousness in utero.

No.376061931

I see God every time I look in the mirror. I am Him. He is me. There is no greater power than the one I revere and I do not revere power in any form.

Stupid argument anyways. Who fuckin' cares?

No.376061956

>>376061716
Interesting point,
but babies don't comprehend the reaction.
Maybe it's the same with us.
atheist here

No.376061991

>yfw it's 2012 and /b/ is still one of the easiest boards to troll

No.376062058

>>376061991
>implying people get more intelligent with time

No.376062066

>>376056154
>>376056154
>>376056154

you win man

No.376062072

>>376061802
Says you. I'm doing fine. Why should I revile something that has provided me with a happy life? Selfish and insensitive are just words that society makes up to try to make me feel bad for having money. Get over yourself. I don't give a fuck about anyone but me and those I care about, and we are doing just fine and fuckin dandy, candy-ass. Cry moar.

No.376062359

>>376061931
Sounds like somebody is a worthless narccissist.

You are shit. You don't matter and you never will. A thousand years from now, nobody will know or care about you (if there are people around at all).

Deal with it and stop being such an ego-centric prick.

No.376062372

>>376051268
hahahaha, i dont know if religioncandy-asss are becoming more desperate or just more stupid these days

No.376062396

They fuck you up, your mum and dad.
They may not mean to, but they do.
They fill you with the faults they had
And add some extra just for you.


But they were fucked up in their turn
By fools in old-style hats and coats,
Who half the time were soppy-stern
And half at one another's throats.


Man hands on misery to man.
It deepens like a coastal shelf.
Get out as early as you can,
And don't have any kids yourself.

-- Philip Larkin

No.376062500

>>376062058
>implying that the ability to detect trolling isn't derived from experience (as opposed to intelligence)

Retard

No.376062518

>>376062072
Until they die and you do too. Won't be fine then.

No.376062568

>>376062072
Let's say a murderer kills some innocent people, but then decides to give you a brand new HDTV for free.

According to your childish logic, that murderer should be loved because of the one act of kindness he did for you, regardless of the inhumanities he committed to others.

No.376062576

>>376062072
You're an asshole, and I want to hate you, but I can't, because you're partially right.

No.376062616

>>376059945
You're such a cunning linguist.

No.376062739

>>376062568
No, I didn't say he should be loved. More like I am saying that I'd tip my hat to him and be on my merry way with my new TV. Oh and it'd better be a 3D HD tv. I could buy my own motherfucking HDTV.

No.376062754

>>376062359

Sounds like you can't handle the power of the troll. Get fucked brah.

No.376062773

>allegory of the cave

look it up, n­ig­gers.

No.376062774

>>376062500
>implying that intelligence and experience have anything in common

No.376062826

>>376062518
You're right. I won't be fine. I'll be nothing. I'll be dead. Fucking moron.

No.376063061

>>376062773
do what this man said

No.376063171

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No.376063207

>>376062773
+1 internetz

No.376063331

>>376052429
accept run on sentences run on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on

No.376063438

Calling it a night. Goodnight /b/ thanks for this debate. Trolls make me sad because they act like they don't understand (Well I hope they are trolls, otherwise idontwanttoliveonthisplanetanymore.jpg)

No.376063517

If there is a God, I bet that God is really disappointed in this Bible.

It's such a small-minded shitty thing.

No.376063522

>>376062773
This guy gets it.

No.376063700

>>376063517
>>376063517
>>376063517

No.376063702

>>376062576
I can hate him, and I do, because he and people like him are pretty much the reason religions can get away with all the immoral shit they do.

Priests from my religion fucking children, then scaring them into silence and being moved around by the Church? Not my problem.

My religion furthering the spread of STD's by discouraging condom use? Who gives a fuck?

People from my religion suppressing the rights of others based on irrational belief? Not my problem.

No.376063910

>>376051268
I just can't believe in something man made. That's all.

I don't see the logic in having 'faith'. Never understood it.

No.376064064

>>376056664
>implying that I'm op
>implying that I'm a christcandy-ass
>implying that I agree with the stupid, fallacious analogy even after I state that it's fucking moronic
>still comes to the wrong conclusion

ohyou.jpg

No.376064111

>>376063702

Look, there are issues with the condom thing.

But it's the not the teaching's fault. The teaching is right.

The problem is people are asshats who don't think, "Should I have sex with this person? Really? Really?"

If you know sex is going to have an element of danger to it, a child or a disease, you're supposed to stop and take that seriously.

It's not the church's fault that asshats can't think ahead or control themselves.

No.376064511

>>376064111
But these are people we're talking about. They don't behave optimally, never did.

No.376064653

>>376063702
You're a fucking moron. The guy I can't hate doesn't even believe in God. He just said that IF one existed, he wouldn't give a shit because, obviously, God gave him a better life than most. Read prior posts before responding you retard.

No.376064835

Awesome pic OP. I enjoyed it.

No.376064918

>>376056869
LOLOMG

No.376064925

>>376064653
I think you are the guy you can't hate.
You write the same way.

No.376065010

>>376064925
I think you presume too much.

No.376065516

ATHEIST LOGIC:

Believes in cause & effect....
But thinks the universe came from nothing.....

Hmmm... sounds like another logic based on faith not facts

Pic Related, Atheists are LOSERS

No.376065523

>>376064511

My personal feeling, after taking all kinds of different opinions about it over time, based on experience:

It's about respect.

If you respect yourself, the person you want to fuck, and the consequences of what you're doing . . . probably not going to have any problems.

Sex should be fun, a little risk, it should be worth it.

That's why the church is so deadly against these idiots who say, oh it's okay, sleep with that guy tonight, and a different one next week, and don't take your partner to be more than a living dildo, because you have a condom and an abortion option if that fails.

The church is so misunderstood by its critics.

No.376065885

>>376065523
Clearly that's right. It's no good for anyone to sleep around. The birth control thing is a real problem for poor married women who keep having kids they can't afford to take care of.

No.376066335

spiderman thread!

No.376066420

>>376065885

Again, inside marriage, you'd be surprised at what the church really teaches. The church doesn't want anyone living in poverty. It's a sin to harm a child because you can't care for it.

Let's not open the debate of how it's also a human organization, and a very big one, and there's sometimes some quality control in the clergy that could be handled much better.

But just take it to heart. I don't know about the Protestants, who still seem angry hundreds of years later . . . but the Catholic Church categorically does not hate people.

It's also a religion that is NOT easy to understand inside 5 minutes, so maybe that's where problems also start.

No.376067162

>>376066420
Protestants follow the same bible as the catholics. We are not angry, we simply reject the idea of a pope claiming godhood.

No.376067482

If you can read this, you are a Pope.

No.376067507

>>376066543

The Pope, naturally, is not God. He's the leader of the Church, selected for various reasons, and . . . shocker . . . try looking up some of Benedict's writings.

He's not a very good looking guy, grant you that, but if you read and understand his writings, you might be shocked at how reasonable and intelligent they are.

No.376067754

READ 1ST FEW REPLYS, EVERYONE JUST STOP! STUPID THREAD IS STUPID THREAD TURNING EVERYONE FULL RETARD POSTING IN EVEN ME, IT'S WHY I'M DOING CAPS!
>Kill this thread

No.376067830

>>376067507
My grandfather was catholic. He had a catholic funeral. I'm sorry, but waving an incense burner over the casket and sprinkling water from a semi-grimy fountain in the church onto it isn't going to do anything but create a wet, smoky casket. It's bullshit.

No.376068055

>>376067507
I don't doubt his intelligence, but no reason to give him the full leadership over more then a billion people and revere him as a saint after his death.

We are all mortal humans.

No.376068148

>>376067830

Well, nobody expects it to glow with flashing lights and rap a Kanye song.

The purpose of those rituals is comfort. They provide comfort. The church has used them for 2000 years now, because they give grieving family reassurance, through the old little silly rituals, that life is okay and stable, and will still move on.

Don't be too hostile to the little things. And you gotta admit, done well, some of those little rituals carry a certain sense of style.

No.376068362

>>376068055

Is it wrong to revere a good Pope who helps the Church and believers?

Sainthood, ok, don't read too much into it. It has reasons. They're good reasons. But it doesn't turn the Pope into a superhero.

Being a saint means that "we really like you" . . . how is this misunderstood?

No.376068371

how is babby formed?

No.376068497

>>376064653
And that changes matters how, dipshit?

He outright stated that he doesn't give a shit about other people and only gives a shit about himself and people he directly cares about.

It doesn't matter if he doesn't believe in god because his attitude and the attitude of people like him is what enables the immoral actions of religious people to continue without resistance.

No.376068697

>>376051268
>A simple yet powerful analogy.

I agree. Babies don't logic, much like Christians. Good show, OP!

No.376068956

...except that both the babies' deity and life after birth can be scientifically proven.
That's a big difference with the gods and afterlives of all religions.

No.376069061

>>376064111
It's the church's fault that the church actively prevents the priests from being prosecuted, bullies the victims and allows this shit to carry on.

No.376069086

>>376068497
Why should that matter to someone like that? Someone who doesn't give a shit outside of himself and the people he cares for? I'm assuming that he doesn't care what any religion does or how they act or whatever. And btw, I hear a lot about religious wrong-doing, as is prevalent with fundies, when much more horrible things like conflict diamond sales and north korean oppression exist. You, my anti-theist, need to find your priorities. You can't MAKE a person care about your agenda.

No.376069703

I literally cringed...

No.376069854

>>376056154
THIS

>>376051268
Also, the analogy fails becuz
1: OP is a fa­g
2: Assuming the intelligence of the baby for the sake of the analogy, we must also assume that it is capable of observation and reasoning which would allow it to deduct the existence of an outside source for nutrition.(remember we're dealing with one smart nig­ger here)

That makes the baby's situation entirely different than ours since we have yet to see any evidence for the existence of anything beyond the universe itself as our universe seems self contained based on our observations so far.

I do concede that it is possible for other universes to exist entirely separate from ours (after life could be one) but since no scientific necessity exists to assume that, rational people don't believe it to be the case. We would however, as soon as some observable evidence is presented to suggest the existence of an after life.

No.376069875

>>376069061

Dude, first of all, I personally find the idea of diddling a small boy very unpleasant. It's just not sexy.

But what do you expect? Perfection? Compared to what the US government likes to do, the worst the church has to answer is some very lonely gay men acting out.

If your stomach is strong enough to read the material, you'll see that priests don't hurt the boys. They diddle, and that's not cool, but nobody actually got physically beaten or bloodied.

It's a no-win situation where the priest wasn't able to carry the burdens of his priesthood, and the church fucked up, but that doesn't make 2000 years of the church invalid and wrong.

No.376070033

>>376068362
No, it is wrong to think of saints as a 'higher' kind of people.
And that's wrong. If it where simply 'we like you' I wouldn't have a problem. The problem is that catholics believe that saints have become something divine, and they name churches after them, make statues and even pray to them.
IMHO, that comes very close to serving a false god, which the bible strongly forbids.

No.376070617

>>376069086
'Why should that matter to someone like that? Someone who doesn't give a shit outside of himself and the people he cares for? I'm assuming that he doesn't care what any religion does or how they act or whatever.'

I never said it should matter to someone like that, what I said is that he, and people with attitude are the reason that religious people can get away with horrifically moral actions.

'And btw, I hear a lot about religious wrong-doing, as is prevalent with fundies, when much more horrible things like conflict diamond sales and north korean oppression exist. You, my anti-theist, need to find your priorities.'

Guess what, retard? Groups for dealing with that shit exist - people care about those issues and are actively attempting to do something about it.
But you know what, sure, lets ignore all the internal problems and focus on the external - because that works so well...

'You can't MAKE a person care about your agenda.'

Actually you can, that is the whole point behind social & sustainable marketing. But that's not relevant to what I said - I'm labeling him and people with his attitude as the problem, at no point did I attempt to make him care about my agenda.

No.376070961

>>376070033
My favorite saints are the ones that never existed. Apparently being a fictional folk hero for slaying a dragon can make you a saint.

No.376070999

>>376070033

And the Protestants don't think of their grandparents who have passed away, and hope that they smile on them from Heaven?

Double standard, much?

One of my personal criticisms is that explaining Catholicism until someone really understands it takes a long time, and it's not exactly easy.

Spread it too fast, you'll have plenty of superstitious people fucking up doctrine.

But they aren't hurting anyone, you know, and if it encourages them to come to church until some day they might actually understand their own religion, that's not such a bad thing. It's tolerable.

No.376071023

>>376069875
Sure, they diddle, and then scare them into silence about what they did through extensive psychological torture.

Also, the activities of the US government has no relevance to this discussion.

No.376071059

>>376070617
I don't think you understand my usage of the word "make" there. You can't FORCE someone to join your cause. You may be able to CONVINCE them, but you cannot FORCE them to care.

But if all you are doing is labeling, label away. Let us examine the how much good it will do...

No.376071072

>>376051268
> Implying all metaphores are true

No.376071260

>>376056154
>>376056154

God has nothing to do with the Church!!!

Spiritualism..... motherfukin candy-assgot atheists!!!

Pic Related

No.376071709

>>376071023

What torture might that be? I really don't know. Can you explain what you mean?

No.376072195

The metaphor isn't flawed because of the infants interlect.
The metaphor isn't flawed at all, it makes perfect sence!
The OP is flawed because he thinks that a metaphor can be used as a justification for something. This is false, a metaphor can be used to explain, but not to justify.
I think by this stage we all understood the basis of the christan faith, so further explanation is pretty fucking pointless.
OP is a candy-ass for thinking that atheists don't beleive in god because they don't understand the nature of god. Truth is atheists understand the nature of god, but do not acknowledge its existance.

/thread

No.376072371

>>376055706

Developmental Biologist here, ah kid.. please shut up when you have no idea what your talking about. There is more neural activity as a fetus then there is at your age. Judging by your statement, I doubt there is any difference between your brain and your ass. From reading all the counter arguments by the supposed atheist, I'm beginning to wonder why I chose the wrong side. Also why are most people assuming the op is Christian? Are you guys so stupid that you don't realize there are actually 3 Abrahamic religions? As an Atheist, I bet half you morons here don't even realize atheist is a belief system.

No.376072914

what if god isnt god? its just some kid and we are the toys and he has a god. but that isnt really a god either. its just a childish man and he has the real god? Also, Christianity, fairly new religion. weird it wasnt around before, huh? all religions have a come and go

No.376072930

>>376072371

Yea, but one of them is only kind of shoe-horned into the trilogy. Allah started life as a pagan moon spirit.

That religion is like a used car salesman pretending to like his customer's favorite sport's team to make a sale. Full on bullshit.

Read your history.

No.376073072

Simple people accept simple analogies to explain profound questions.

No.376073156

>>376072371

Im not whoever you're responding to but:

>Op's name says Jesus hence the assumption that he's xian

>Atheism is not a belief system

No.376073178

>>376072371
Strong atheist, the stance that there is no god: An unfounded and silly belief.
Agnostic atheist, the stance that there may or may not be a god, but we have no evidence of this god, thus implement Hanlon's razor. Not a belief system.

If evidence is presented to a theist that goes against their beliefs, they do not accept this and close their minds to new knowledge. Same story for a strong atheist.
An agnostic atheist, however, does not hold any beliefs, and is open to new evidence, assuming you can provide any.

If you prove the earth is a cube, I will give up my assumption that the earth is round. No belief required.

No.376073533

>>376073178

There's likely no God that fits the mold of the Bible.

But there likely is a God of some kind. Probably vastly alien and . . . unknowable.

The best you can do is hope you find out, and that it's a nice surprise.

Hardcore atheism always struck me as kind of bleak and unhappy. I don't know why. I hate the Biblical God very easily.

No.376073626

god made me an atheist. who are you to judge his will?

No.376074101

The problem with Christianity is that all of this stuff was meant for the Jews. It's their problem. Their ball of wax. Both testaments, and what to think about their Jesus character.

A Semitic religion had no business spreading outside of its original boundaries. It's cultural expansionism onto people that don't need Jews pretending not to be Jews because of Jesus (a Jew) so they can tell us all what to do.

No.376074269

>>376051268
Not sure OP understands "powerful analogy" or "checkmate".

No.376074303

>>376073533
Why would is be depressing for there to be no god?
To think that mankind was created from millions of years of refinement.
And that species went from living in caves, to flying to the moon, and one day further.
Who split the smallest of atoms, and build the tallest of structures.
And all this with our own hands and minds. No devine entity playing some game because he got bored. Just us, standing on our own two feet.
We never got anything we asked for. Our prayers were never answered, but did we lay down in the mud and die? No, we stepped up and took the globe for ourselves, with no holy daddy looking over our shoulder.
We did it on our own, and we will keep going on our own, because we don't need a god. We are better than that.

I would feel depressed thinking that all I see was just a cheap gift...

No.376074657

>>376073626

lol

inb4 "god made atheists to test the faith of Christians"

No.376074748

>>376074303

If it's that guy from the Bible, that's pretty depressing. He's old and not very nice.

But what if it's a glorious God, an amazing God, a strange kind of pagan God that's better than sex and crack?

I'd be okay with that.

No.376074927

>>376074657
God made one group of people, who he chooses to banish to hell, so that he could test another group of people to see who to send to hell?
If he is omnipotent, shouldn't he know who would crack under the athiests logical arguments, and just send them to hell without all the effort?

No.376075041

>>376074748
then why is aids a thing?
if there is a god it is a sick fuck

No.376075210

>>376074927

One of my favorite points. God knows everything. Therefore, he has no need to test people. He also knows that the vast majority of people who have ever lived are now roasting in Hell.

Kind and loving god, indeed.

No.376075411

>>376075210

I don't think it works like God is the assistant manager at a Burger King watching over everyone with a toilet duty list for the ones he doesn't like that day.

I think it's a lot weirder and trippy.

No.376075693

>>376075411
> Can't think of an explanation.
> It must be weirder and trippy.

I'm not saying it's god, but god.

No.376075826

>>376075693

I pretty much expect the truth of the matter is like an acid trip that nobody has the brains to handle yet.

But no big deal. Apparently, whatever it is lets us live for this long. Nothing to worry about.

No.376075911

ITT: People try to explain something that presumably created logic... with logic...

No.376075950

>>376075411

Well, it's fun to argue the points of superheros every now and then. God is almost as entertaining as Deadpool, and just as fictitious.

God does get boring after a while, though. His stories are loaded with all these outdated morals, though some have merit. I like the part where he trolls this guy Job over a pissing contest with the Devil. He totally breaks the "God" character by having pride and taking up the Devil's challenge.

No.376076022

>>376075826
Maybe nothing is 'letting' us live, because maybe there is nothing there.
Why are you so ready to accept that it is something mind numblingly crazy and unexplainable, but can't accept the simple explanation that there is no god?

No.376076150

>>376075911
This. Fuckin derps.

No.376076312

>>376075950

Well, that story is a doozy, especially if you read it . . . uhh . . . on acid.

It looks one way, but it's probably a different way.

Layers inside layers inside layers.

God wouldn't make a bet that he thought Job would lose. Job, if you ask me, is better than Jesus in every possible measure. He took it and didn't act like a spoiled preachy brat.

No.376076423

>>376076022

Coz I like it crazy and weird and straight up fucking your brain until it bleeds.

I'd be pretty let down if it was anything less.

No.376076448

Christians are as smart as babies

No.376076463

>>376075911
>>376076150

The argument "it's true because it's beyond reason" is hardly compelling. Is it fair to say that something that cannot be explained through logic and reason is unreasonable?

No.376076493

>Implying what happens after you die has anything to do with jesus or religion

No.376076628

>>376075911
See that is the problem, you are so quick to say 'Oh no, it is deeper than that! There are layers you see, lots and lots of layers!', but you are using a blank to explain your point.
That argument had just about as much merit as saying that god wasn't feeling pride, it was some goddly emotion that humans can't feel or understand, but totally isn't pride! That is bullshit.

No.376076738

>>376076463

Have you lost all sense of excitement and wonder about this subject?

I can't explain what atoms are doing when they beam me pictures of tits, but dammit, I do like what they do.

Have a little fun, it won't hurt you.

No.376076774

>>376076423
Reality dosn't conform to what makes you happy, as much as thiests would like to think differently.

No.376076789

>>376076463
That's what you fucking fundies can't fucking understand. It's not a fucking argument. It's a statement that you you cannot prove or disprove (yeah yeah i know, burden of proof on the prove part) that something exists using logic, when this supposed thing is outside of logic. The entire discussion is ludicrous and you are a moron for participating in it.

No.376076884

mfw op

No.376076935

Here's an idea for all you non agnostics, We might not even be the first universe, if there was an infinite amount of time before the universe or if time didnt even exist there might have been things that happened before this universe!!

No.376076960

>>376076628

Here's the easiest layer.

Nasty shit happens. Job was not a pussy about it. He got his reward x100 for manning up.

What was more important to him? Losing some cows? Or . . . his fidelity to God?

Nobody said God has to keep you in your cradle sucking on tits for all of your existence. That would be a kind of slavery by way of limiting your experience.

No.376077002

>>376076312
Well, he did demand a chance to kinda argue with god that he didn't deserve that shit, but then pussied out when god came. Sadly. He should have put that dick in his place.

No.376077025

>>376076789
Newton's flaming laser sword.

No.376077076

i like this analogy, still though, it doesnt apply,

No.376077078

>>376076628
You are so fucking retarded. In no way did that post give you any sort of evidence that the poster was religious or even theistic. You just assume that however because you don't like what I say. My point was that you all try to argue, whether it is for or against, something that supposedly is outside of logic, if it exists at all. What is the fucking point? Move on and ignore the thread, you fucking retarded waste of oxygen.

No.376077114

Hey, brother! Do you think "mom" even knows what we're doing in here?

No.376077158

>>376076960
Matt? Is that you? What are you doing on 4chan?

No.376077308

>>376076738

Wonder and excitement about everyone's favorite imaginary friend? Never had any.

Now, the universe-minus-God I can be excited about. I think it's incredible what we've discovered and it's exciting thinking about what else there could feasibly be. Feasibly, there could be almost anything.

No.376077321

>>376076960

he lost his entire family and everything he owned and his health, I dont understand how god just "replaced" his whole fucking family, he didnt just lose some cows

No.376077330

>>376077002

Of course he was pissed off and scared.

That's the point. Job wasn't a superhero. He was kind of a guy who had some nice shit for his time, and he didn't like losing it . . . but . . .

Look at how the story ended. Not so bad, huh?

No.376077423

Wrong. Children in the belly are alive, and just change habitat when they are born. When you die, you are dead. And then you rot.

No.376077458

Everyone in this thread is retarded.

I am an atheist and I understand OP's anology.
It is similar to Plat's pathology of the cave.

No.376077537

>>376077321

Look, my friend, you wanna play poker with God on a table limited to $5 maximum bets.

To play for real, it's all in, lose your whole stack on one card.

Some of the story comes across as theatrics. Remember, we don't share the story-telling rules of 4000 years ago. Losing all that shit meant "it really fucking sucked" . . . it's not meant to be literal.

No.376077577

>>376077458

analogy* and its easy to understand what hes trying for but it fails

No.376077608

Exactly, you are as stupid as a 5 month old baby.

No.376077691

>>376076789

>I present to you this statement:
>It is irrefutable
>Because I said so

Questioning your fantastical claims about a bearded man who created the universe doesn't make me a moron. On the contrary, it shows me to have an inquisitive nature and a finely-tuned bullshit detector. Cry about how he's higher than our laws all you want; it's not going to change the fact that people made all that shit up.

No.376077806

>>376056154
>>376056154
>>376056154
excellent counter point

No.376077821

>>376076960

the story ended with job having nothing being miserably and cursing everyone and everything that wasn't god. and then he died.

and supposedly went to heaven, the place he most likely would have gone anyway even if none of that shit happened to him because he was already a pious man.

No.376077889

>>376077537

Oh ye of course, you downplay the hardships he went through but then you fully dramatize jesus's death. Maybe I should just say "oh the stuff jesus went through sucked it wasnt literal though, he wasnt really beaten and he really didnt die on the cross it was all a metaphor for how bad it sucked". Stop picking and choosing what to make literal and not in the bible when there is no line stating which way to take it. But thats also what helps with the bible, it can interpreted in so many ways and when you are a blind follower then you will ALWAYS be able to twist it so you are right. When you go searching for the truth with an open mind you will find that the bible is FAR from it.

No.376078042

>>376077691
No, what makes you a fucking moron is not understanding that I HAVE GIVEN YOU NO REASON TO BELIEVE THAT I AM RELIGIOUS OR EVEN THEISTIC. I am ONLY stating that what you ATTEMPT to argue against, is futile to argue against, because the god you want to argue against supposedly CREATED THE LOGIC YOU ARE ATTEMPTING TO REFUTE IT WITH. You are a moron because you make sweeping generalizations after reading the word 'moron,' which is ironic, because you prove that you are one.

No.376078064

Atheism is not a belief.

Disbelief =/= Belief


Atheists have let this point slide too often. If you can't acknowledge this simple truth than you have no place in a serious discussion about science or religion.

No.376078233

>>376078064
The problem is that atheism with fundies often comes hand in hand with anti-theism.

No.376078269

>>376077577
Nope it doesn't
I am still not convinced that there is a god.

Just as they babies cognitive functions were not enough to comprehend the concept of a mother or a world beyond their's, we may not have the intellectual capability to comprehend what god is and life after death.

Just as the beabies have no way to experience the existance of their mother. We have no way to experience the existance of god.

But I would not say checkmate. All this has proven is that god can exist. But it still does not give me good reason to assume he does.

No.376078304

Slow that roll

Jesus was an asshole. In today's world, he would be Skrillex or Justin Bieber.

Job . . . he was that nice neighbor that seemed okay, but nobody would accuse him of delusions of grandeur.

There's a major difference between the stories.

Jesus was a problematic prick that both the Romans and his own people fucking hated for being a douchebag egotist. The original poser.

There's no suffering like the suffering of the average guy who is scared to death that if he loses the average shit he has, he'll never get it back. Coz he's knows he isn't all that, no matter how much he argues or complains about it.

No.376078308

so are you to imply that your mother cannot be proven?
check Christians ,, your move(and honestly you really should stop shouting checkmate, you people are terrible at chess)

No.376078346

Consider this theory. Surely those who a men of science have heard of Schrodinger's experiment where the cat was placed inside a air-tight box which was filled with poisonous gases. Until the box was opened the cat was both dead and alive. Isn't death a similar scenario? Until we die God both exists and doesn't exist? Until we find out all theories are correct and incorrect.

No.376078447

nice one OP! Checkmate!!

No.376078568

>>376078042

You seem upset.

I'm going to pick out one word from your entire post, now.

>supposedly

God didn't create logic, though. Man did. God only created it through the proxy of his imperfect creations.

>perfect creator's creations imperfect
>lul

All this hypothetical nonsense about witches and giants really is tiresome.

No.376078634

I fucking hate threads about religion/atheism. They're worse than spam and cancer and I wish everyone contributing to those threads would go be fat and useless somewhere else. I miss the days where /b/ was actually random. Now it feels as though that's the only shit you candy-asss do.

And this is coming from an atheist, here. When you start debating about atheism, you're preaching about it, therefore you end up sounding religious, and you get mad about it and then try even harder. Just shut the fuck up. Please. Save your own dignity. Don't be a jew.

And I get it, christcandy-asss, jewcandy-asss, muslimcandy-asss, and all other religicandy-asss. You find strength in your beliefs. Fine. Just shut the fuck up about it and go at least TRY to do something useful with it. Don't hang around /b/ arguing with atheists, it just sounds like you WANT to look like retards. Just go away, nobody's interested except yourselves. So go and be around yourselves SILENTLY.

And agnostics. You're alright but I still hate you just as much. You don't have to pick a side, but at least have the decency to shut the fuck up as well.


That is all. Fuck you.

No.376078724

>>376078308
furthermore
honestly all these threads have done in terms of enlightening me is: shown me that the average Christian and Athiest cannot play Chess very well

No.376078828

>>376078724

Filthy Islamist, bringing up Chess

No.376078911

>>376078634

No.376079040

>>376078828
Chess was invented by Hindus, showing even more that the average Christian/Athiest are uneducated.
your move

No.376079075

>>376078634

hating accomplishes nothing, neither does typing about it, if you truly practiced what you preached you would have never typed that out.

No.376079106

>>376078568
Yes, pick out ONE word. You really are a moron. I see that now. There is no getting around it. The way you finished your idiotic post is what I've been trying to say THIS WHOLE FUCKING TIME. IT IS POINTLESS TO DISCUSS THIS. And as far as God supposedly creating logic "by proxy" that is just stupid considering that fact that every scientific theory or law works on logic and therefore was supposedly put into place by a God for the universe to be how it is. We didn't create logic so that the universe could work on it. We USE logic to try to understand it. But if something supposedly CREATED IT. Then how the fuck can you try to ARGUE AGAINST SOMETHING THAT IS OUTSIDE OF IT. And yes, I am upset. Your idiocy ASTOUNDS ME.

No.376079121

>>376079040

. . . you're digging that hole even deeper, buddy.

No.376079189

>>376079121
which hole would that be? friend

No.376079194

>>376079075
word!

No.376079240

derp religion candy-asss

No.376079276

So basically, op, you're comparing life to being in the womb, and god to a mother?

You're fucking stupid.

No.376079405

>>376079276

Dude

Dude

No listen, this is awesome

Dude

You can get your religion and your pussy needs in the same place by saying God is mommy

No.376079425

>>376079240
Who would have thought /b/ would shitstorm so hard about a facebook picture huh? Fb OC bahaa

No.376079475

>this fucking thread
>over 9000

If you want to control the quality of posts on /b/, stop replying to shitty threads

No.376079533

>>376078269
>>376078269
>>376078269
>>376078269

No.376079543

>>376079475

Fuck me, I meant to say over 9000 replies

No.376079640

>>376078346

schrodinger's cat is bullshit. it's just a thought experiment. it isn't a theory. the cat is either alive or dead, obviously it can't be both.

can you imagine a world where everything had to be assumed both true and false until it could be proven without a doubt? i could just spend all day making shit up and everyone would have to concede that the shit I made up is just as true as religion until proven otherwise.

No.376079666

I always wonder why christcandy-asss go on /b/ in the first place.... Isn't this website full of sin?

No.376079761

>>376051268
I have devised the ultimate checkmate for athiests they believe evolution, however how could existance exist without god. Think about it, yes evolution may exist but why does existance exist? if you date back 10000000000000000000000000000000000000 trillion years to the beginning of the universe when existance came into existance, how could that possibly occur without divine intervention

No.376079777

>>376079666

Satan Speaks!!! Quite true though lucifer, quite true indeed

No.376079793

>>376079666

Well, maybe for them . . . sin doesn't exist for God, so . . .

No.376079804

>>376079666
>>376079666
>>376079666
Perfect trips LMFAO inb4 shitstorm?

No.376079805

I must have missed that part in the bible where it said we were all living inside God's giant pussy.

Thanks OP.

No.376079896

>>376079777
>>376079777
>>376079777
LOLOLOLOLOL

No.376079898

>>376079761

With knowledge comes understanding, read stephen hawkings a brief history of time, it is somewhat explained in there

No.376079945

Bill wins

No.376080023

>>376079805

It was dark

It was wet

God moved across the face of the waters, huh?

Sounds like bad cybering before there was cybering

. . . ok . . . tell me this isn't a pussy

No.376080164

>>376079945
Get's me every fucking time

No.376080188

>>376079640
Schrodinger's cat is an analogy fuckwit. Ofcourse the cat is either alive or dead, but a quantum particles is both a particle and a wave phenomenon until you measure it.

No.376080204

>>376079106

Because it's all bullshit and I'm a stubborn man. If someone is going to make fantastical claims and then say it's futile to try to disprove it, he's going to be called a lying piece of shit with some decent stories.

Burden of proof wins this one.

Yes, my overall argument really is "it's all bullshit." I'm not going to elaborate because that dead horse's bones have been beaten to dust.

No.376080219

You're all candy-asss. If anything could be solved by arguing about this I'm pretty sure it would have happened already. All the christcandy-asss are gonna say "God exists and all you atheists can suck it!" And the atheistcandy-asss reply with "Prove it! I have an illogical fallacy to prove you wrong!" and christcandy-ass says "Look at MY illogical fallacy!" And in the end your just comparing fallacies. It's just what you believe and nothing's gonna change that. So either stop bitchin and say "Hey man, nice shot.", or get trolled hard. Choice is yours.

tl;dr This is dumb. STFU.