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Anonymous
Hi /trv/

I'm slowly losing faith in the US. I'm thinking of moving to Europe some time soon. Where would you recommend as good places to live? How much do you think it would cost to get fully situated over there?
>> Anonymous
1. Switzerland.
2. Alot
3. ?????
4. Profit
>> Anonymous
I feel the same way, but you won't escape your problems by jumping ship to Europe.
>> Anonymous
>>66448
itt: lies
>> Anonymous
Africa's about the only place where you can live free (as in freedom) anymore. :' (
>> Anonymous
>>66356
QFT.
I've lived in switzerland. Absolutely sweet.

Really nice people, kickass languages, excellent money, amazing public transport.

Oh, and did I mention skiing?

In the summer you hit 30 degrees Celcius on a good day, and in the winter there's snow outside.
Perfect.
>> picnic Anonymous
>>66461

how long did you live there for? and how was the immigration process?
>> Anonymous
>>66209

Soon we are going to be hated around the world, very soon, even more so then now. So I don't know if it would be your best decision...

Elaboration. Our mortgage companies ultimately screwed over international investors, stealing their money, and with the economy now, with nothing to give back...even though the mortgage companies sold them the ones they wouldn't get money back from, without telling them. Other world economies are already taking small dives, and soon they will be hit with a good chunk, mainly China and Japan.

Know how a lot of jack ass american people treated Iraqis after the terrorist attacks, yeah, that is going to be us to the world.

Man up, live strong. See you in about 15 years, if things do go to hell, when we get some of our international street credit back. I hope I survive with my health defects, lol.
>> Govinda
I recommend Norway. It isn't as hard to get citizenship there as it is for many other European countries (atleast this was the case when I looked into it a few years ago). And the language wouldn't be too hard. If you like to eat fish and you like beautiful people, Norway is the way to go.
>> Anonymous
>>66471
:/ actually all the well informed people know it's minorities in the US that caused this shitstorm by defaulting on house loans and thus crashing the real estate market (over 90% of bad loans were given out to minorities), and since europeans love to think they're well informed, feel free to rub it in their faces.
>> Anonymous
EUROPEANS ARE RACIST XENOPHOBES.

EVER LISTEN TO A PARISIAN TALK ABOUT AFRICAN IMMIGRANTS?

EUROPE HAS 250BILLION+ IN HOUSING LOSSES. EUROPE IS JUST AS FUCKED AS AMERICA. THIS IS GLOBAL. EUROPEAN MARKETS FOLLOW AMERICAN MARKETS LOCK STEP. WHEN AMERICAN MARKETS ARE CLOSED EUROPE HAS NO IDEA WHAT TO DO, NOT EVEN A MODICUM OF MARKET LEADERSHIP IN EUROPE.
>> Anonymous
>>66477
Military service obligation. Maybe it's like Sweden and they don't make people who naturalize as a dual citizen do it.
>> Anonymous
>>66507
Have YOU ever talked to an African immigrant?
Thought so.
>> Anonymous
>>66461
He said nothing bad about Switzerland, only that it's expensive, which is true, but not bad. Keeps the Hadjis and Niggers out.
>> Anonymous
>>66494
There were many causes, and plenty of them are white.
>> Anonymous
Scotland, Netherlands, Germany, Switzerland, Malta, Lichtenstein. All pro.
>> Anonymous
swissfag reporting in, ask me everything
>> Anonymous
>>67005
How does the Schengen Agreement make you feel?
>> Anonymous
>>67008

good and bad, there are alot of german workers because of this, and i hate them.
the other thing is that you can sit in a train and go to Italy, France or Germany and nobody cares.
I travelled from Paris to London in an Eurostar, the controls are like in an airport.
>> Anonymous
>>67009
What about highly educated immigrants? PhD holders, etc. Would you be against them coming to Switzerland?
>> Anonymous
>>67010
No.
We have a problem with the immigrants from the Balkan, the big part of the crimes are done by them and the most of them are dumb like bread.
>> Anonymous
>>66494
That's pretty ignorant. If the banks hadn't been so irresponsibly predatory, it wouldn't have happened for the (significantly more than 10%...) whites either. Remember it's more than only housing loans that are affected when so much of people's 'wealth' is so badly deflated to the point of mass crisis. You need not even be 'well informed' to know that it is a far reaching crisis with plenty of major causes, internally to the US economy and externally. The main one is simply irresponsibility and the housing bubble (when people buy houses 100,000s of $ well ahead of what they can afford - sometimes to the point of defaulting on the interest alone, this is what you get)
>> Anonymous
New Zealand is my suggestion.

And only 'slowly'?!? I would have already given up and fled the country as early as 2004-5, perhaps earlier. Or become an anarchist revolutionary for epic lulz, (or maybe support a secessionist movement depending on where I was)
>> anon
Western Canada. Its not the US but close. It has some of the good things that the US has. Not all of the bad things. Wait till after the election, everybody gets crazy during election times, you may feel better.