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I want to learn Russian, and work there in a few years' time. I currently have a dictionary, 'teach yourself Russian ten minutes a day' and the internet at my disposal. Best way to independently learn a language with which you have no experience?
I have French and German GCSEs, B and a C respectively, but it was quite a while ago, and GCSEs mean fuck all.
>> Anonymous
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You said you know French and that might help you out a lot because Russians used to be gay for the French and the high class Russians spoke French. There are a lot of words stolen from French in Russian.

Best way to learn a language is find russians on the internet who are willing to help you.

There's this great community on Livejournal called learn_russian. They would help you out with anything you need. Also, listen to Russian music and watch Russian movies to try and build your vocab.

Russian is really hard. But I think some people are just naturally better at certain languages than others. It depends, of course, on how hard you work and how badly you want to be fluent.

Russia is an amazing place. Visit it at least once in your life.
>> Anonymous
i am currently in my second quarter of russian at a university, and let me tell you, it is fucking hard. i would not suggest "teaching yourself in ten minutes a day" that sounds like a bad idea with a language like russian. my professor said that spanish/french/english require about 700-900 hours of exposure to gain fluency, and russian takes about 1800.>>9301has good ideas, but i would suggest getting books in russian that either have english on the page as well, or just get the english version and read them side by side. that will probably do more than movies, though you do need to hear the language so thats good too.

also, a tip when learning noun cases: it seems ridiculously overcomplicated, and it is, but most of the time you can substitute an english word in for the case. for genetive case, it is the word "of," for example. saying "????? ??????" means "book of music," even though "of" is not there. this makes cases seem much more useful when you realize that it's not just pointless changes, actual words are represented. many people in my class have had trouble with this concept, thats why i point it out.
>> Anonymous
>>9311
Lol Russian has no verb for "being" in the present tense. it does for the past though and for the future. Weird fucking language.

The most confusing part is when you have to modify nouns.
>> Anonymous
OP here.

I've been trying to get my head round the basics of Russian grammar. At the moment I'm still adjusting myself to the language - listening to podcasts, learning the alphabet, basic vocabulary. I don't understand how it manages to not use certain words (my technical language isn't the best), though a friend of mine said something about it being present in the word already =/

Thanks for the advice though, will come in useful.
>> Anonymous
I'm from Russia (drunk right now, no joke) and i can say: good luck. Russian is a really hard to learn language. Go to Moscow for a month or so, that can help you.
>> Anonymous
>>9312
>Lol Russian has no verb for "being" in the present tense. it does for the past though and for the future. Weird fucking language.

hmm, sounds like finnish; just replace "future" with "past." i wonder if--

OSHI I ACTUALLY MEANT TO SAY VITUN VENÄJÄ YOU GUYS SRY
>> Anonymous
So does anyone in Russia speak Esperanto?
I'm assuming there has to be a larger percentage there than most places considering it started there.
>> Anonymous
VITUN VENÄJÄ ;DD
>> Anonymous
>>9331
>Esperanto
No. It was a failed atempt to create artificial language. Besides, when the times of troubles strikes (the past 20 years for Russia were not pleasent) one would br worried more about gaining some bread then about learning artificial language no one use.
>> Anonymous
So, "I am happy" is like "I happy" in Russian?
>> Anonymous
>>9347
If it's anything like finnish, you can say "i am happy" but you can't say "i am beING happy"

basically there is no -ing

i do not speak russian ftr
>> Anonymous
Can any Russian speakers here translate 2ch.ru for me
>> Anonymous
>>9355
Every single post on that image board is a troll post so there's really no point.
>> Anonymous
bljat, urod, pidar, nahuj, zajebizz and pizdec.
all you need to know.
>> Anonymous
There is a present tense for "to be" in Russian, but it is practically always omitted, except for emphasis, because it really is reduntant. It's reduntant in English as well, if you think about it. The only reason to why "I hungry" sounds stupid is because you're used to thinking of it as stupid.

In Russian, "? ???? ????????" ("I am hungry") with the verb sounds even more ridiculous.
>> Anonymous
? ??????? - "I student" i am a student
? ? ????? - "I at bank" i am at the bank

russian does not use present tense to be, or articles ("the" "a" "an" etc).

>>9354they just say "I happy." im not fluent but i think "I am being happy" would actually be easier to say than "i am happy," but theyre both unnecessary. Finnish is quite different actually, finns cant understand russians and vice-versa.
>> Anonymous
>>9355
Actually, they steal English phrases and just type them in Russian letters.

It's not really worth translating. Their memes are stupid and it's full of CP.
>> Anonymous
>>9347
Yes, but you have to conjugate happy to fit the gender of the speaker.
>> Anonymous
>>9362
At least they have some original content.
>> Anonymous
>>9746
I inquired them in English on what was going on repeatedly on several instances, and they claimed /b/ was their gay nigger pornography board, followed by "evidence".
>> Anonymous
>>9743
I beg to differ.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_does_one_patch_KDE2_under_FreeBSD%3F
>> Anonymous
RRRRRRRRRRRRYyyyyyyyyyyssssssssääääääääää mun leipääni syööööööööööö.
>> Anonymous
>>9746
>some original content
meh, they are even more redundant then /b/, 95% of the content is pure meme bulshit that gets repeated every 5 minutes. All their boards are like very very slow /b/ for downs.
But that doesnt realy have to do anything with travel, so sage.