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Anonymous !W59l2d2OG.
So, /trv/,

I have met a woman on the internet, from Russia (and no, not a russian marriage agency). We have been talking for almost a year now (im, email, phone).

the subject of visiting her in russia has come up a few times, and also her visiting me in the US. after looking into it, the chances of her coming here are slim to nil, so my best bet is to travel to russia.

she lives in a small city about 150 miles north east of St Petersburg.

how would be the best way to get there? I have done a little research, and i know you cant get a direct flight into Russia, but what would be the best way? flying to an airport in russia? or flying into europe somewhere and taking a train in.
also coming from amerikka, i have inherited fear of russia, and i dont want to get shanked or mugged, how can i prevent that the best?
>> Anonymous
>>48632
Have you actually got proof that she is indeed a woman? I like where this is going...
>> Anonymous !W59l2d2OG.
>>48633
LOL, yes. She is indeed and always has been a woman. pictures and webcams are a godsend
>> Anonymous
I don't believe you have an internet girlfriend, enjoy your russian mail order bride.
>> Anonymous
>150 miles north east of St Petersburg.
REMEMBER, EIGHT FURLONGS TO A MILE
>> Anonymous !W59l2d2OG.
>>48652
ok?
>> Anonymous
>>48655
which makes it 1200 furlongs. give or take
>> Anonymous !W59l2d2OG.
>>48656
its all so clear now...

anyway..anyone whos been to russia know the best (cheapest) way to get to russia from the us, and any tips on how to survive?
>> Anonymous
For the love of god don't go to the hospitals there. THEY WILL SEW UP YOUR BELLY BUTTON WRONG IT HAPPENED TO MY FRIEND WHEN HE SUDDENLY HAD TO HAVE HIS APPENDIX OUT!
>> Anonymous
You're being scammed OP, she's not real.
>> Anonymous
Get a plane to Estonia, Belarus, southern part of Finland or any other country that boarders Russia, then take rail to your princess.
>> Anonymous
>>48632
>you cant get a direct flight into Russia
travelocity.com
I see flights from JFK to St.Petersburg airport.
>> Anonymous !W59l2d2OG.
>>48668
ill take my chances..what is she gonna do when i get there? have a posse beat me within inches of my life or even kill me for what clothing i have with me and the few possessions i bring with me?

>>48669
is this the cheapest and easiest way? have you done this or know anyone who has?
>> Anonymous
>>48669
yeah, going via belarus should be the simplest and cheapest way...
>> Anonymous !W59l2d2OG.
>>48673
cool, i will have to look into that
>>48670
must have missed those, thank you
>> Anonymous
Just a warning, though I know it will go unheeded. Russian women will do ANYTHING to get out of that country. They will marry you and the second they are able to after becoming a US citizen they will divorce you.
>> Anonymous
>>48674
before you look into it, book a flight to belarus. they will fill up quickly so youd better hurry and put your cash down asap.
>> Anonymous !W59l2d2OG.
>>48676
i believe it. ive heard lots of stories about it, but there arent any plans for marriage yet. i want to meet this girl in person first, anyway.
>> Anonymous
>>48637
Pics. NOW.
>> Anonymous !W59l2d2OG.
>>48682
No.
>> Anonymous
>>48676
That's hardly the case. It's not about the country they're living in, it's about being supported by a husband who can actually support a family. Since the economic shit-times in the 90s, most families became dirt poor and men stopped being able to support a family with an average job. Things have been getting a lot better lately so I doubt things like that are as common.
>> Anonymous
>>48684
Why not? It's not like she'll ever visit 4chan and see them.
>> Anonymous !W59l2d2OG.
Is russia still all cold war-esque? or is it like any european country?

and since she is not in a big city, what are the smaller cities like?
>> Anonymous
>>48688

I don't think Russia's all that bad anymore. Still, maybe don't wave around the fact that you're American.
>> Anonymous
>>48680
As little as this means from an anon over the internet.
One of my fathers friends met a women over in Russia while doing business. For four years she would meet/date/sleep with him. He finally gets married and brings her back to the US. The second she has been her long enough so that she was able to while being able to stay in the country, she divorces him and leaves.
Your situation could be different, I don't know. I'm just trying to give you fair warning.
>> Anonymous !W59l2d2OG.
>>48689
i figured i would keep my american-ness to a minimum, and only speak to others when absolutely necessary, seeing as how i dont know much russian, not enough to get by on my own anyway
>> Anonymous
>>48692
This was 10-15 years ago.. things may have changed.
>> Anonymous
>>48692

Yeah, OP, seriously, make sure she's legit.
>> Anonymous
>>48688
because romania and belgium are basically the same...
>> Anonymous !W59l2d2OG.
>>48692
i always have this fear in the back of my mind.

who knows what will happen, if anything. she said her mother would kill her if she married a non jew anyway.
>> Anonymous
>>48694
You should learn it if you plan on staying a while. Nothing is in English (signs, menus etc..), and the average person probably doesn't know it.
>> Anonymous
>>48698
Errr...not really. Both those countries are less industrialized, less educated and much more poor.
>> Anonymous
>>48699
lol russian jew

just post pics, fgt
>> Anonymous !W59l2d2OG.
>>48698
well, it was a serious question. my arrogant american views on europe are jaded.
>> Anonymous
>>48703
well what do you mean by 'cold war-esque', and what is 'like any european country'?

also, delicious pics
>> Anonymous !W59l2d2OG.
>>48700
i am slowly working on it. russian seems very hard to learn.

>>48704
i guess i didnt really think through very well the way i asked it. but is it all gloomy and depressing, with that feeling of inherent oppression, like in movies?
>> Anonymous
>>48705
lol...

That's called propaganda. We can't be letting people think the Soviet Union is a nice place to live now can we?
>> Anonymous
>>48705
just a question, how old are you?
>> Anonymous !W59l2d2OG.
>>48709
23
>> Anonymous
>>48710
then why are you so stupid?

post pics NAO!
>> Anonymous !W59l2d2OG.
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>>48712
stupid how? i just dont know what russia is like.

god damn
>> Anonymous
>>48714
Fuck she's hot. I'd hit it.


as far as the whole "be careful" thing goes, just think about it. What girl would go after 23 year olds for money? The ones you gotta watch out for are the 19 year olds who are "looking for men aged 30 to 50"
>> Anonymous !W59l2d2OG.
>>48717
thats a more reasonable way to look at it. im still going to be careful with the whole thing, though.
>> Anonymous
maybe meeting the family would be a good idea, seeing how they are can give u an idea as to how she was raised.. and what moral views on life she may have
>> Anonymous !W59l2d2OG.
>>48721
i would love to meet her family. she said she lives near a very beautiful lake, i would love to see the scenery in her area.
>> Anonymous
i've lived in Russia for 10 years and even for easy pussy, i'd stay as far away from that country as possible. but if you still decide to go there, keep the fact that you're american as hidden as possible because stabbings to the face would be soon to come
>> Anonymous
>>48729
where in russia did you live?
>> Anonymous
a city called Novokuznetsk
>> Anonymous
>>48730
Basementekengrad

What's with all the trolls on /trv/ lately?
>> Anonymous !W59l2d2OG.
>>48731
big city? small city?
>> Anonymous
>>48729
Tens of thousands of Americans travel there every year and I've never heard of an American tourist being killed, let alone because of the fact that they were American. Off with you, pesky troll.
>> Anonymous
the city's fairly large.

thousands of americans travel to large cities such as moscow or st. petersburg, not bumfuck-nowhere. but hey, do whatever
>> Anonymous
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if you have little fear in Russia do not try travel by train for a long time. The trip from Belarus is a bad idea
>> Anonymous
>>48737
Then what do you base that bullshit on? No one in the world likes Americans (generalization), doesn't mean they're going to get killed in every bumfuck nowhere town in the world.
>> Anonymous
you've clearly never been to russia.

i was just kidding anyway. you'll do fine, big guy. just remember to bring lots of sexy american dollars
>> Anonymous !W59l2d2OG.
>>48738
can you explain a little more please?
>> Anonymous
>>48742
ok. You can buy four type of tickets: for VIP, couchette, reserved seat, common seat. First sooo expensive, airplane rather cheap. Second and third case means that you would travel together with people who do not know English. Train often fall out a schedule. How they will explain you about this type of actions? And foreigner traditional easy target for cheater. Do you want talk with Russian cop about your miss? It is difficult ever if you native Russian =)
Last case simple fail. You want not it
>> Anonymous
ITT; Americans who like to sound like they know about other countries, but have no clue.
>> Anonymous
>>48747
maybe. but i native Russian and often travel around my country
????? ???? ???? ????? ???????????????
>> Anonymous
>>48746
plus the whole visa issue

>>48714
you have not only displayed a lack of knowledge regarding russia (a subject for which you have good reason for having a decent general knowledge), but also the world
>> Anonymous
Yeah, she is fine... if it is her. You have to understand that it will probably not turn out well no matter what, unless your goal is to get laid by a hot chick while IN Russia (and this is iffy at best, you had better practice laying chicks in your general vicinity first). If you like each other, then she will convince herself that she loves you, and you will probably go along. You will get married. Once she gets a taste of real freedom, there will be no holding her back. Force of nature. Nothing personal.

And for the love of God, don't pull a Reiser...
>> Anonymous
>>48701
I don't know about the "less educated" part... i've got 4 romanian programmers working for my company, and they work Perl and C++ better than any other american i hired... plus, they're cheaper
>> Anonymous !W59l2d2OG.
>>48760
of course thats not here, i pulled that off of /b/ a month or so ago.

like i said, who knows what will happen, thats why i am meeting her in person first.
>> Anonymous
>>48701
yeah belgium is a backwater hole... poorly industrialised with a shitty education system
>> Anonymous
>>48768
how do you expect us to help you when you wont even post pics of her?
>> Anonymous !W59l2d2OG.
>>48771
i honestly dont feel comfortable posting pics of her, thats why
>> Anonymous
>>48772
i didnt ask why you dont want to, i asked how you expect us to help you when you wont give anything of yourself (or your whore) in return
>> Anonymous
>>48773you must die
!W59l2d2OG do not post her pics
>> Anonymous
OP, go to Minsk and then by train to St Petersburg. Also i'm from StPetersburg and can help here.
And as for marriage make a contract before it. So that she won't be able to get anything after divorce.
>> Anonymous
>>48780
cant agree more; what kind of guys post a nude picture of his gf !!
>> Anonymous
>>48794
u amerifags know nothing about russian girls.
we can say whether she wants just go away from Russia or she is just ordinary modest girl.
>> Anonymous
>>48701
you're an idiot, the soviet union and russia have provided the best education in the world for years

god so many stupid trolls on /trv/, all of them are faggots from /b/ who have never traveled anywhere, if they did happen to travel somewhere it's only either canada, or japan if they have enough money, fucking idiots I hate this board

anyway you'll be fine, I am american and I've been there all the time, and yes the country is much better now, people are making about 6-8x more money than they were during the economic crisis in the 90s, just as all countries, avoid the bad areas juat as you would in the states
>> Anonymous
>>48795
not an american fag and never will be

all what I say is she's not a gold digger unless she's proven to be
>> Anonymous
>>48796
Amerifags thinks that the stereotype Russian math professor is a NYC cab driver
>> Anonymous
>>48797
u didn't understand me. i just wanted to say that her pic can help to say whether she is whore or not.
also i hope that it is good girl.
>> Anonymous
knew this faggotry would come as soon as /b/ would go down, MOOT SEND THESE RETARDS BACK WHERE THEY CAME FROM PLEASE
>> Anonymous
>>48796
agree about SU education. But in modern Russian was created reforms, so now school is fail.
I'm student of TSU - 7th place in top Russian uni. It is trying imitate US universities (in IT branch of knowledge)
>> Anonymous
>>48800
ololo
>> Anonymous
>>48803
wouldn't say it's fail, it might not compare to some american universities to some extent, but it's still very good

I've gone to both american and russian universities, in the russian one, I felt like I was actually learning things and stuff was harder to do, of course there are a lot of factors to this, as the american university may have just not been that great, but it sure was expensive and on that rankings BS
>> Anonymous
>>48804
???, ?? ?? ?? ????? ?????? ?? ????? ??? ????? ??? ???. ????? ?? ????
>> Anonymous
>>48714
she looks like the cute/hot hybrid, those are nice when they can be both
>> Anonymous
>>and i know you cant get a direct flight into Russia

are you stupid or something? seriously OP cmon
>> Anonymous
>>48807
OP?
>> Anonymous
>>48805
mm.. may be. Course IT is weak side of RF science. And it make influent to education. What specialization you have?

>>48806
???, ?? ???. ? ???? ?? ????? ??? ?? ?????, ??????, ???? ??? ???? ????????? ? ?????
>> Anonymous
>>48809
nope? why would you think I'm op just because I think some picture of some girl is hot?
>> Anonymous
>>48810
??-????? ?????????? ??????????? ?????? ??? ????????????? ???? ? ??????? ?????? ? ?????????? ?????. ????? ????? ??? ????? ??????? ?? ????????? ???????????? ???? ???????.
>> Anonymous
>>48816
???????????? ????? ??????? ? ??? ??? ??? ????? "?????" ? ??? ?? ????? ?????????? ????????? ???? ??.
?? ???? ???? ?? ??????????? ?????, ??? ?? ????????? ?????, ??? ?? ?????????? ????? ?? ?????? ??? ???? ??????? ? ???????????
>> Anonymous
>>48818
?? ?????? ??????? ?????? ????????. ???-???? ?? ?? ?????? ? ????? ????. ??? ?????, ??? ??? ???? 23.
>> Anonymous
>>48819
? ??? ?? ?????? ???? ????????? ?? ?????????.
>> Anonymous
>>48823
????????.
>> Anonymous !W59l2d2OG.
>>48780
like ive stated before, i will not post her pics.

>>48808
already discussed this here>>48674
>> Anonymous
??????

Am I doing it right?
>> Anonymous
Couldn't you find a girl where you live?
>> Anonymous !W59l2d2OG.
>>48838
sure i can. im just seeing whats out there. if this doesnt work out, i can definately go back to crazy american girls.
>> Anonymous
>>48839
you ain't seen nothing yet nigger
>> Anonymous
How about you go there, fuck her brains out, string her along and if the topic of marriage comes up you laugh your ass off and dump the girl?
>> Anonymous
?????? ?????????? ? ?????????? ?????.
>> Anonymous
>>48694

even learning a LITTLE russian will get you in with the locals. Trying to learn their ways makes them a bit more receptive to your needs
>> Anonymous
>>48838
Is it me or global dating becoming more and more frequent?
>> Anonymous
>>48885
Welcome to the age of the interbutts
>> Anonymous
>>48887
Even I'm global dating!
>> Anonymous
MOAR!
>> Anonymous !W59l2d2OG.
>>48885
>>48887
>>48890
i've done long distance before, but never like this..
>> Anonymous
I had the same problem, but now it got worse since I get a job that doesn't pay much and about 60% of the money goes to bills and the rest I kinda end up spending because I can't help but to spend money when I have it lol. But what I would suggest is going to a travel agency if you have one near you.
>> Anonymous
YEAH OP TRY A TRAVEL AGENT

WTF ARE YOU DOING ASKING FOR ADVICE ON 4CHON?
>> Anonymous
>>48917
DO IT! IT IS FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!
>> Anonymous
lots of american white trash here who know shit about the world outside their mother's attic. contrary to what you hear in us, no one wants to get out of russia. maybe during 90's chaos some people wanted out. these days it's no different that your typical eurotrash country, minus some redneck in washington telling you how to live. and for the love of god, don't bring dollars since it's worth no more than toilet paper now. get euros, don't be a douchebag, and you'll be fine.

ps: consider flying to helsinki and then taking another plane/train to petersburg. don't go to estonia as it's just a nazi shithole.
>> Anonymous
>>48999
agreed except that I'd probably just spend the extra money to go on a direct flight from JFK
>> Anonymous
>>49004
>>>The most unpopular places seem to be the continent of Africa and the U.S. – 11% and 7% respectively ‘refused’ to be born there.

haha
>> Anonymous
>>49005
holy shit I deleted my post so I could re-reply with that exact same quote but you caught it first.

Anyways, I read>>48999right after reading a news article saying that 79% of Russians wouldn't want to leave their country. http://russiatoday.ru/features/news/28575
>> Anonymous !W59l2d2OG.
>>48962
Because this isn't /b/, and i figured i could at least get some kind of competent information, which i did
>> Anonymous
In Soviet Russia, thread trolls YOU!!