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IN B4 WEEABOO Anonymous
Hy@all
What are the alternative (as in, not a ferry) yet viable ways of crossing to Japan from Russia or China on sea? Something like getting a place on a freighter or such?
Also from Korea, if it's possible to pass through North Korea on foot (trike, actually) but I doubt it?
Thanks!
>> Anonymous
>>12141

Stowing away on a freighter is probably pretty easy to do if you go down to the port with a pack of smokes as an offering.

North Korea is going to be pretty tough to manage, but I don't know much about the topic.
>> Anonymous
>Also from Korea, if it's possible to pass through North Korea on foot (trike, actually) but I doubt it?

No. Not if you enjoy living, anyway. There's no way you're just going to pass through the DMZ without getting shot to pieces.
>> Anonymous
>>12144
Also, I should note that AS IT IS, it's hard enough JUST TO GET INTO North Korea. If you do get in, you'll be taking a tour they give to all tourists. You'll be as far away as possible from real North Koreans, and it'll be all about how Kim and his dad are gods and how South Korea and the U.S. are horrible instigators of the Korean War.
>> Anonymous
North Korea is an Orwellian theme park.

Few are allowed to enter the country, those that are allowed have to stay in bugged rooms and must be followed by North Korean "guides" at all times, you are forced to visit the tourist landmarks that the government wants, you cannot travel on your own, you cannot talk to ordinary people, and you cannot cross any border by land, sea or air without explicit government permission.

Ordinary North Koreans are not even allowed to leave their city without a special pass, and most beaches are surrounded by electrified barbed wire to prevent people from escaping by sea. Despite all these restrictions, hundreds of North Korean refugees manage to cross into China every year, though many of them end up dying of hunger, freezing to death, captured by border guards, or captured by Chinese authorities and repatriated to their homeland, where torture and labour camps await them dissidents.

I wish I was kidding.
>> Anonymous
>>12143
12143, even tho I come from a former socialist country I'm not well versed in the whole bribe-as-social-glue style of getting what you need so could you elaborate a bit, have you ever done anything like that, what exactly should I do, go to port pubs and ask around over drinks, stalk sailors as they return to the ships or what?
>> Anonymous
>>12148
LiNKfag?

http://www.seejapan.co.uk/transport/sea/international.html
Here, OP. Also, your North Korea idea is fucking goofy. The only time Americans (assuming you are one) are allowed in the country is during Mass Games, I believe.
>> Anonymous
>>pass through North Korea on foot (trike, actually)
Enjoy not coming out alive.
>> Anonymous
>>12148
12148, funny how both of us used quotation marks with "guide". =)
As I wrote already, I'm pretty much aware of all of that, it was just an afterthought and 'what if'.
>> Anonymous
>>12151
No. I've heard of Americans getting in on days that were not some "event". It is exceedingly harder for them, though.
>> Anonymous
ARGH
pls2not pull 'this thread is now about dying in North Korea' on me. Gettin to Japan super-cheaply is what this is all about.

12151, thanks for the link but that's exactly what I said I want to avoid in the original post ("not a ferry") and no, I'm not from USA; as mentioned, I'm from a formerly-socialist cuntry.
>> Anonymous
>>12151
Look in google and youtube, you will find everything I mentioned there. There are accounts of people that travelled as tourists, as well as some underground videos that North Korean dissidents managed to smuggle out of the country.

Also, look for "Holidays in the Axis of Evil", it's a great BBC documentary on the matter.
>> Anonymous
>>12150

Hanging out in port pubs is deffinetly a good idea, and you could probably manage something. People are usually nice if they are going the same direction. But if you question the guy who offers you a rides sanity, don't risk it. Open waters don't have many escape routes.
>> Anonymous
>>12158
Take a fucking flight. I'm guessing you're in Eastern Europe?
>> Anonymous
>>12161
No, I'm not.
What the fuck are you on?
>> Anonymous
>>12160
Well, what would be the most common shipping routes between Russia/China and Japan? I presume it'd be Shanghai for China since the ferries for Kobe departure from there but what about Russia?
Also I doubt I'd get a lot of conversation going with chinese sailors, with Russians I could pull 'bratya slaveni' on them lol.
Or try to get on a Japanese ship, I speak Japanese but don't know how willing would they be.
>> Anonymous
>>12161
failtroll is fail, can't even get the comment number right lol
>> Anonymous
>BBC Four: Which country caused you the most problems?
>BA: Iran was the worst. I was really looking forward to Iran because I thought I'd just spend two weeks with these young, brave people who had parties and demonstrated against hardline religious beliefs. But no one said a word for three or four days. I met some students who were involved in the demonstrations in 1999 when the police shot and killed some people. Literally five minutes before the interview started they said, "We don't want to talk about the demonstrations." Everyone was terrified to say a thing. And during this interview with the students these three guys burst in, grabbed us, searched us, emptied our pockets out and found the tourist visas and said, "You're a journalist." They took us back to our hotel, turned it over, found our tapes under the bed and just went ballistic. They actually thought we were spies and giving information to MI5. That lasted for a week.

Holy shit.
>> Anonymous
>When we were there two girls were run over by an American tank

Whoa, this was made a pretty long time ago.
>> Anonymous
There's a really good blog about a guy (an American who could speak Korean, I believe) who goes to the original 3 Axis of Evil countries. The North Korean one was pretty thrilling. I'll try to find it for you guys.
>> Anonymous
http://axisofeviltour.com/nk-trip1.htm

Here ya go.
>> Anonymous
Anyone has any experience with Japanese sailors (and no, I don't mean in that way!)?
>> Anonymous
>>12174
I met one in Beppu onsen actually. He was a cool guy, and told me the guys with tatoos in the pool of water on opposite side of the room were "no good"
>> Anonymous
>>12237

was he a sailor on the SS captain obvious
>> Anonymous
>>12239
lol. He did tell me he's been around the world at all the major ports and such. he was most recently in the Panama Canal
>> Anonymous
>>12252
Well it might work then.. Japs low in the hierarchy are not usually very willing to give you favors which would go over their duties.. but I guess sailors are a special breed everywhere.
>> Anonymous
sauce of op pic plz
>> Anonymous
There's ferries between Shanghai/Osaka and Vladivostok/Fushiki.
Pretty sure there's a Pusan/someplaceinwesternjapan ferry as well.
>> Koreaboo !!8acvZM8N2f8
>>12432
Osaka/Pusan, but its like an over night trip.
>> Anonymous
>>12435
so are osaka/shanghai and fushiki/vladivostok (that one is 2.5 days, actually)
>> Anonymous
SAUCE ON BIG TITTED CHICK IN OP PICS OMFG
>> Anonymous
>>12367
Denise Milani
>> Anonymous
>>12680
As it is printed on the picture itself, I proclaim 12367 to be a dumbass faggot.
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