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The Midwest Anonymous
Good News: I'm receiving a promotion at work.

Bad News: The Promotion comes with a condition that I have to move out to one of our offices in the Midwest.

Good News: I get to choose which office I go to.

Bad News: My choices are Madison, Milwaukee, and Minneapolis/St. Paul.

TL;DR: Which of these three choices will suck the least, and why?
>> Anonymous
minnie/st is the only place anyone could ever really tolerate living
>> Anonymous
>>63272

Good to know, but could you be more specific?
>> Anonymous
I also say Minneapolis/St. Paul

Good airport, big mall
>> Anonymous
OP here. I'm rather interested in what the cost of living, taxes, and crime rate is like for each of these cities, as once I make my decision I'm probably going to be stuck there for several years.
>> Anonymous
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>promotion
>> Anonymous
How big is the promotion and where are you coming from? If it isn't crazy big I suggest neither honestly.
>> Anonymous
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The choice should be clear unless you are a communist.
>> Anonymous
I vote Madison. There's a great community there, and a good college vibe. It's not too far from Chicago, and will be cheaper to live in than Minneapolis. Milwaukee is full of fail, I would avoid it.

Another thing to think about is climate. It gets fucking butt fuck FREEEEZING in Minneapolis. The summer is like 4 days long. However it's the largest of the three cities you listed.
>> Anonymous
madison.
i live in milwaukee, and its cool if you are a crust punk, nigger, or if you live in the burbs which is gay.

madison is great, its great college town, certain parts can be rough, but for the most part the city is great. yeah, close to chicago (about 2 hours maybe) and milwaukee (which has a decent airport and concerts too)...

although the twin cities is (in my opinion) just a bigger milwaukee, without the notariety for beer. ive never been there though. only been to the airport.
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>>63281
Here you go, information on what you care about. The lists didn't have Madison on the there, so it's obviously not included.
>> Anonymous
>>63299
Oh yeah, those crime rates are per 100,000.
>> Anonymous
MSP got 2nd in the cleanest cities in the United States.
>> Anonymous
Oh, there's no sales tax on most food* and clothing in Minnesota.

*Stuff like Fast-food, soda/pop, and chips is taxed, though.
>> Evil
Madison, Just because I live in Wisconsin, But Minnesota has cheaper gas..... (I live on the board)
>> Anonymous
Minneapolis, because it's the least shitty of those cities.
>> Anonymous
>>63302
wat

there are places in the us with sales tax on food? i thought that shit was illegal

in texas you only pay tax on prepared food

ingredients it's illegal to have sales tax on

since i cook everything from scratch my food is 8% cheaper ignoring the markup of prepared food
>> Anonymous
Minnesota is home to the coolest people I've ever met in the entire U.S., and most of them come from Minneapolis.
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>> Anonymous
I grew up and went to high school in Minneapolis, went to Chicago for one year for school, and now go to Madison for school. Let me help.

I love where I grew up. Minneapolis/St Paul is absolutely killer. Huge area, tons to do, really clean, not much crime, cheap gas (cheaper than most of the midwest and Wisconsin), fantastic night life, great suburbs, really hot girls, and a beautiful summer (lasts from Mid-May to Mid-September with tons of lakes to hang out at around the cities area and lots of people to meet and chill with). The only thing is that unless you live right downtown close to work, you need to have a car. It really benefits you, however, because there is a lot to do in the suburbs and stuff too.

I am in Madison, WI right now. I like it here; fantastic college town, lots of bars/night stuff, endless supply of booze for dirt cheap, they sell alcohol everywhere, people are friendly, girls are pretty hot, suburbs are cheap and nice, the city is really beautiful, fun summers, beautiful surrounding landscape, and the public transit is excellent and clean. The city itself is kind of dirty (not too bad though), lots of hobos downtown, crime seems somewhat prevalent on the south side of town, and downtown living can be very expensive.

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>> Anonymous
Some comparisons:
Mpls has 3.2m people in the surrounding area, Madison has 543,000.
Madison's median age is significantly younger than Minneapolis'.
Gas is more expensive in Wisconsin (usually around 20-25 cents consistently).
Cost of living (in my experience) is higher in Madison, but I live downtown, so I am not really sure.
More to do in Minneapolis I feel like.

So there you have it. All useful information from someone who has lived in both. Don't go to Milwaukee, unless you live on the North or East side, it's not too great. Old, dirty, noticeable crime. Chicago is great if you can head down there, too.

My recommendation? Depends on how big you want your city, how old you are, and what you want to do... But I vote Minneapolis. I will most likely move back there or to Chicago when I am done with my masters.

Good luck, OP!
>> Anonymous
>>63355

Sales taxes are state, sometimes even county decisions. What they tax varies wildly.
>> Anonymous
MNfag here, and i gotta tell you, Minneapolis beats the hell out of Madison, never been to Milwaukee...
>> Anonymous
I went to grad school in Madison. The town is full of dumbass UGs who party the entire week. You aren't really "close" to any city in terms of time (Chicago traffic lolz). On the plus side, the lakes aren't bad for fishing and doing nothing around. UW has some good grad programs so you have a lot of chinks, gooks, eurofags, etc. everywhere. Wait. that's a bad thing
>> Anonymous
Good News: The Midwest isn't half as bad as it sounds!

Bad news: Minnesota is Fuck-cold and Milwaukee is filled with cancerous college faggots

Bad news: Minneapolis is over run with niggers.

Bad news: Both places are cold.
_very_ cold

Worse news: winter is coming.

1. buy a coat
2. don't freeze to death
3. ????
4. Profit
>> Anonymous
>>63453
i just had to point out that the bus systems are available, and they are currently building the light rail system further north (to coon rapids in the Riverdale Commons area)

www.metrotransit.org for busses / Schedules etc.etc.
>> Anonymous
>>63268
As an Ontarian, I can tell you that the nicest people you can meet in the US are from Minneapolis/St. Paul. They're so nice, I've often told them that they could be honourary Canadians.
Go there. You'll have a good time.
>> Anonymous
>>63483
Minnesotafag here,
No.
>> Anonymous
madisonfag here, infinitly superior to milwaukee, that city is a shithole, cannot attest to m/sp, WI sales tax is 5.5%, not familiar with property taxes as i rent, and as long as you dont live near the border to fitchburg or the south side and parts of the east side, crime is relatively low. booze is incredibly cheap, bars everywhere, and as long as you dont live downtown cost of living isnt that bad
>> Anonymous
I grew up outside St. Paul, went to college in Milwaukee but tell you straight the best of the 3 is Madison. Great town on a beautiful lake with Chicago & Milwaukee a short drive away.
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>>63476
friggin pussies. Of course Minnesota is cold but I grew up there in the 40's & 50's. No Goretex, no Thinsulate, no down filled jackets, just so many layers you walked like a waddling duck.
No you have remotes to turn on your car and heated seats.

Don't sweat the snow either, the plows are the size of houses.
>> Anonymous
>>63520
yeah, madison has very minimal trouble with snow, hell, i think i had maybe 4 snow days in my entire k-12 education
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>>63535
I went K thru 7 in Minnesota but started 8th grade in PA. The first time it snowed I walked to school wondering why I wasn't seeing other kids. At school the nun was pissed.

Kept saying; "it snowed!". I responded with "well..........duh".

In the fifties Minnesota had never heard of a snow day so neither had I.
>> Anonymous
I would suggest Minneapolis as a current resident. There is more than enough to keep yourself occupied. Beautiful bike trails, lots of good spots for running, etc. It snows like balls in the winter but you get used to it after a while, I think growing up with it most people don't even give a shit anymore.

>>63580
I did my entire K-12 in a northern suburb of MPLS and we had like 2 snow days, ever. Once it was closed because state law said it had to be at temps below like -50F. I think I've had that many snow days in college, and I'm only a junior. People just don't really mind/put up with it here like it blizzards regularly. Probably because it does.