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What is the best country to start a new life? I'd like to disappear.

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>> Anonymous
Any country that isn't bordering your current country. Even if, as long as you have no criminal record, pack your bags and move away.

Then, if you plan to start a completely new life, check what your current education is worth in your country of choice. See if your high school education is equivalent or higher than their high school education or your current education level.

Do you want to have low living costs? South American, Asian and African countries are preferable in that case. Food is cheaper and houses as well, but that's just general advice, you'd have to narrow down your preference.

Now, tell me, if you think "freedom" what do you think of? Do you think of a beach with palm trees and a sunset? Or do you think of mountains and plains and green as far as the eye can see? Maybe this can help us. How do you imagine your new life to be?
>> Anonymous
>>14675
go to cuba
>> Anonymous
>>14675
Norway is nice.
Very good economy, nice people and wunderful countryside.
When i'm done with the army i'll go there.

btw: source of ops pic please
>> Anonymous
I'm moving to germany after grad school.

Ich bin ein Frankfurter!! :)
>> Anonymous
You don't have to go to a different country to do that. Unless you want to lose the family, too.
>> Anonymous
>>14692
You can say Ich ein Frankfurter, the bin sounds unnatural and Berlitz-y.
>> Anonymous
I would like to go live in France. I'm learning French right now. Is it hard to gain citizenship in France? I am Arabic too, so will that make it harder to become a citizen, or at least be able to live in the country legally? US citizen right now btw.
>> Anonymous
switzerland
>> Anonymous
>>14699
Was für ein Quatsch ist das bitte?

>>14700
Getting the citezenship of any country is ridiculusly hard, with a few exeptions. You'll be lucky to only be allowed to work there - especially, though I don't want to say it, as an Arbian. At least, that's my guess, never tried to do something similar.

Best chances are when you proceed as following:

1. Get decent edumacation
2. Get work in an EU country / get working allowance (note: Shengen visa gets you everywhere in urop)
3. Stay for a long time
4. Have luck
5. Get citezenship

Alternatively, just marry someone from the EU.
>> Anonymous
Say you were in the US, maybe in New York... if you were to up and move to Oregon, you might have just as well moved across the ocean in terms of distance.
However, maybe you want to get away from the law? The IRS? What is motivating you to go to another country?
>> Anonymous
Getting good job/citizenship of anywhere is MUCH easier if you have at least your degree in a useful field of study (aka science, medicine, math).
>> What's Daffy !uFXEelS9Qk
I too want to leave the aids-pile that is America, what is a European country with a high english speaking population, but English is not the national language.

I'd like to learn a new language, but do it in an environment where it isn't necessary.
>> Anonymous
>>14710

Exactly. Getting citizenship in a country like Germany or France is relatively easy if you are educated/highly skilled.

>>14709

Even still you would still be within the US, other side of the country or not it wouldn't make much difference. Moving to Hawaii or Alaska would be the closest to leaving the country altogether.
>> Anonymous
>>14713
Belgium, Luxembourg, Holland
>> Anonymous
>>14719

Sweden and Norway are up there too.
>> Anonymous
>>14675

Sauce. Let's go.
>> Anonymous
>>14700
Being Arabic won't matter at all. You might find some shitty employers, but the Government won't discriminate. As for France, you must have lived there for 5 years before applying for citizenship. If you graduated from a French university, it is dropped to 2 years. But since most Bachelor's are 3/4 years anyway, you would still get the 5 year "waiting" period, as it were.

If you marry a French citizen, it's also dropped to 2 years.

Take your pick.
>> Unanonymous
>>14700
If you look fine and are educated, no worries.
>> Anonymous
There's also a lot of Arabs in France, so if you can speak the language, even better!

But they have the Algerian dialect and all that so I don't know what I'm talking about.
>> Anonymous
>>14717

That's wrong. Gaining french citizenship is hard, and has little to do with your level of education.
You must either :
- marry a french, and after four years of marriage, and by giving the proof that you actually really live together and "share a love life", you can make a demand - which doesn't mean it will be accepted. You still need to be well integrated, to have lived in France during that time, etc..

- not marry, than your case will be even more difficult. Must have lived in France for at least 5 years, and be well intagrated etc..
>> Anonymous
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Join the Legion!
>> Anonymous
>>14763
Yeah, your local mayor decides if you truly love your significant other. Its fucking ridiculous.
>> sage
>>14675
what is the fucking source?
>> Anonymous
>>14850
ur butt
>> Anonymous
>>14851
It must be late because I lol'd.
>> Anonymous
>>14717
Actually, Guam would be the closest or somewhere even more obscure like Saipan.
>> CapitalistBastard !!f/pELCnjRD0
>>14768

Seconded...

Whatever your origins, nationality or religion might be, whatever qualifications you may or may not have, whatever your social or professional status might be, whether you are married or single, the French Foreign Legion offers you a chance to start a new life...

Everyone joins under a "declared Identity" and starts a completely new life with a different name.
>> Anonymous
>>14675
A place called Belgium IN FRANCE? Where the hell is that?
>> Anonymous
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>>14955

Yeah, if you can handle it.
>> Anonymous
Can you hold a dual citizenship in France? I wouldn't mind moving out there to the country side but I don't want to give up my US citizenship.

Also India is a great place to start new if you're a sailor like me.
>> Anonymous
You also get French citizenship if you complete your service
>> Anonymous
>>14713

Sweden works. About 90% here speak English to a decent degree.
>> Anonymous
Apparently you can get aussie citizenship for $600k

I said no thanks.
>> Anonymous
>>15020
You can buy a lot of citizenships. America's one goes for investing $500,000. Britain is £500,000, Canada was $750,000CAD
>> Anonymous
>>15027
Investing as in I'll get my money back at some point, or investing as in "investing, elbow nudge bribe".
>> Anonymous
The going rate on the black market for an 'arranged' citizenship marriage in the US is about 30k.
>> Anonymous
>>15049
how about an "arranged" citizenship OUT of the US?
>> Anonymous
>>14675
Asia? Singapore (english speakers as well.), Hong Kong, Taiwan or Japan. Go places to start to get some azn tang.
>> Rival Wombat
Used to be that Taiwan would let US expats live pretty much forever as long as they kept there nose clean. I know a few merchant marine folks that have bought citizenship there for less then five thousand.

If you want to go ghost, off the grid, then cross the Canadian border quietly and make sure your carrying zero identifying information. If you don't have prints on file with the government then even if you get tagged in CA your unlikely to be deported as long as you stick to your "I'm from Alberta" story.
>> Anonymous
>>15049
how do i peddle my ass for that much? sounds like a good deal do i just walk up to a Chinese restaurant and make them a offer?
>> Anonymous
Woop Woop, rural Australia

A++ you would disappear again
>> Anonymous
>>14955
These days the Legion checks with Interpol, they don't accept people who've committed serious crimes like murder, rape etc.

The Legion is insanely tough though, not just the physical side but the mental side. The discipline is ridiculous, they are ultra strict about shit like uniforms.
>> Anonymous
Warmer parts of Russia if you just want a nice peaceful, out of the way place.
>> Anonymous
>>16202

Being from a warmer part of Russia myself (fuck yeah Black Sea[king]), I can only agree with this.