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This isn't exactly travel per se, but this is the closest board 4chan has for my inquiry, so here goes:

I'm not a big fan of the US currently and unless things get drastically better during the next presidency I was thinking of becoming an expatriate.

So, my question is what country does /trv/ think would be a good expatriate destination for a soon to be microbiologist? My ideal location would allow for a high level of assimilation, an overall good disposition/reception, have a good economy with jobs available for someone with a BS in microbiology and a high standard of living.

Any ideas? Feel free to speak about your country or countries other than your own if you know them well.
>> Anonymous
>>15959
no one wants an american, goodbye
>> Anonymous
>>15962
Oh, that's fair. I'm just as pissed off about my country as you guys must be, but you're going to generalize and assume who/what I must be based on my national identity. I guess you think I'm some lazy, overweight, undereducated, violent prick.

This couldn't be further from the truth. I am hard working, borderline _underweight_, fairly well educated (I'll soon be through my BS at a well respected university,) and I'm more than amiable.

That out of the way, does anyone have any actual advice that isn't just an ignorant dismissive comment?
>> Anonymous
>>15964
>>15959
Perhaps you could go live on an isolated island by yourself.
>> Anonymous
>>15962
>>15965
Jesus. Is anti-American sentiment really this bad, or is this just one really bitter asshole? Get over yourself and whatever generalized notions you have about Americans. Sure, maybe a lot of us aren't up to par, but some of us are and that's why I want out.
>> Anonymous
Same thing with me. Even the same major.
Although I'm willing to wait until the dollar gets stronger.
>> Anonymous
Singapore does some top biological research and they couldn't care less about "ethic concerns". Has a high standart of living compared to most former colonies. Dunno if that helps you.

Check out the EU. I think you know about the advantages of having an EU passport.
>> Anonymous
>>15959
You're making your BS? Go for a master's study somewhere in the EU, promote after that, stay at University. From this basis you may wish to join a company to make more €€€.
>> Anonymous
Australia would be pretty easy for you to adjust to, there's a shitload of biology to be had there too
>> Anonymous
>>15972
Yeah, Australia was one of the countries I had in mind. It's not that I wouldn't want to learn a foreign language or get used to a different culture, it's that assimilation would be very difficult in a country like that and I'd always be seen as an outsider, especially if the national language is something other than English. I'd love to live for a time in a very foreign country, but not indefinitely.

At any rate, are you Australian? If so, tell me a little more about Australia. You say there's a lot of biology to be had, could you perhaps elaborate on that?

>>15971
Where in the EU would you suggest? I'd be inclined to go to Germany or one of the Scandinavian countries.
>> Anonymous
>>15959
Canada.
Everyone always threatens to go to Canada.
But they never do.
>> Anonymous
>>15974
I really don't know which country would be best for a microbiologist, just see about the universities' qualities. Personally I'd refrain from any of the new members, but anything else should be just fine. You'll be able to communicate to everyone in Enlgish. There's also be a chance that the working-language at labs might be English, especially in the smaller countries.

Depending from where in the US you are and what your fav activities are you should keep in mind that most "big" European cities are small compared to Asia/America.

Germany and Scandinavia are just fine, but from what I've heard Germanic languages are rather hard to learn despite the occasional similarities to English. Plus, Germans are a bit reserved. ;)

I think the easiest way to emigrate/immigrate is via university education and work.
>> Anonymous
OP, I think you should grow up a bit before you try to leave the country. Your "OMG FUCK THE GOVERNMENT I'M OUT" attitude is childish, and the fact that you responded to two obvious trolls makes you look naive.
>> Anonymous
>>15984
>from what I've heard Germanic languages are rather hard to learn despite the occasional similarities to English
But English IS a Germanic language
>> anon
i live in sydney. aus is seriously one of the best places in the world to live in, great beaches/landscape and if ur into biology n shit theres fuckloads of weird animals like snakes/spiders/sharks/bugs/aboriginals/wombats/platypus etc.etc. and no worries bout assimilating, we are 'multi-cultural'. eg. my family is half dutch.

only major beef with ppl in aus are the ethnics that rock up in gangs and start raping/bashing/stealing and otherwise being gigantic douches.
>> Anonymous
>>15996
Yeah well.. uh.. by definition, but.. uh.. its.. ah.. not a true Germanic language! Its way too easy to learn!
>> Anonymous
>>16003
As a native speaker, it's hard for me to say, but from what I've heard, English isn't that easy of a language to learn.

As far as Germanic languages being more difficult. I speak some German. In my opinion, they may not be as analogous and easy to learn as Spanish, but they are still not too hard of a transition.
>> Anonymous
>>16009
It all depends on what your native language is. If it's Germanic, learning English shouldn't be too terribly hard, but if it's something that doesn't come even close to resembling English grammatically, like Japanese or Korean, you will have a bitch of an experience depending on your level of dedication.
>> Anonymous
>>15996
>>16003
English is only Germanic for really basic vocabulary. Otherwise, it might as well be French Lite. It's very different from basically every other Germanic language.