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So hey, /trv/. Thinking of moving to australia semi-permanantly. (I'd like to travel other than that, yet I'd like to get out of the US and live somewhere else for a while, establish myself.)

I'm not from a very wealthy family. Not going to bother with college other than maybe some community college for a while. It isn't that I don't feel education is important; I just want to get experince in the world under my belt first.

I grew up in florida, I'm used to crazy heat, angry insects and dangerous animals because I was in the rural area, so things like that were a daily part of my life for a while, snakes, insects, etc.

I prefer the cold, yet from what I hear australia has some cold nights too, so seems like an okay balance and it's a country I've been wanting to see. I try to aim for countries I have a good social grounding in, Australia is one of them.
>> OP
>>44023

I could do some education there, I'm mostly looking for working, though. Possibly for the austrailian government if they let immigrants do that. Just something public service wise, working in some kind of paperwork / deskwork job is fine.

Pay wise, I don't spend a lot of money, I'd like some extra money for budgeting out entertainment, I mostly focus on the computer though. I'd be more concerned with socking away money, paying for utilities, food, and then enough for a nice little machine and some good internet.


That's another concern of mine, a lot of people I've run into ausland seem to have major issues with download limits on the internet which would make me rage pretty hard and whatnot. I watch a lot of streaming video online and download a lot of junk too.

I didn't graduate highschool because I was never in the American public education system. Going for a GED, shouldn't be long before I can pick that up. I've got about 4k USD to my name in an investiment fund which is at my disposal.

This is just an idea though, I'm trying to figure out what to do, if you think Australia isn't an ideal place, toss me some critism as to why. I'm open to whatever. Oh yeah, and the housing market is kind of rough over there right now, I know. They're starving for workers though, that's why I figure I could maybe secure something nice there.
>> OP
I don't really have any grand ideas about the country, or the world for that matter. I know things are rough out there, that's why I want to try it out first hand in a situation where I don't have a quick escape out. I work best when I know I've got to work with I have, otherwise I get pretty lazy. I don't expect it to be easy or convienant, just fairly interesting and a learning experince at that.
>> OP
this is a bump etc.
>> Anonymous
don't

this is likely to end in epic fail. for starters, you dont even know what youre doing. Go to university. It is so important. Yeah theyre looking for workers - skilled workers. you think they need to import unskillied labor?

This may seem romantic when youre young. But you dont want to wake up, realilse youre not young anymore, and not have a proper career / not be at least on your way to haivng your own property, because you wanted adventure when you were young. Anything you want in australia, you can probably get in florida.
>> Anonymous
wow you're ambitious.

haven't completed high school and no university/college degree and want a government job in australia? australian job standards are no different than in america or anywhere else. if you don't have some sort of qualification expect to be waiting tables or working in a supermarket.

and to work for the government you usually have to be a citizen.
>> OP
>>44083

I'm not talking anything nearly high level. Working as some simple job in terms of low level jobs in public service. Not running the country.
>> OP
>>44076

I'm up for working my way to qualify for jobs over there here. I'm talking about this in the next few years, not next week.

Uni can be important, the problem is that most of the time people go in for grandios bullshit degrees and wind up working a job that has utterly nothing to do with their requirements. University / College != real world. Hence wanting real world experince, figure out what's practical and what I like, then head into a massive, debt ridden education for it.

Give me some specific examples, generalizations like epic failure don't teach me anything about what the cons of it are, and why it's not intelligent.
>> Anonymous
>>44089

you're still going to at least need to be a permanent resident and have some sort of experience.

i don't think you've thought this through very well. what visas are you eligible for? if it's only something temporary no office of any type will employ you because in their eyes you could disappear off somewhere else as soon as they turn the other way. if you're up for studying to improve your skills, look into a student visa. we have more government-recognised technical colleges (TAFE is what they're called) than universities that will teach you actual skills and they're far cheaper than universities.

if you can't find a job do you have enough money to support yourself for 3 or 4 months?

what qualifications do you have that will give you the advantage over somebody else who is a permanent resident or citizen? this is not unique to australia. again, get yourself some sort of skill.

which city are you going to live in? housing prices and job markets are quite different in different cities as they're so far from each other. what you find in sydney is not the same as what's in perth.

i'm not trying to discourage you. by all means come to australia, we welcome everyone (as long as you're not coming in on a boat), but make sure you plan. we're really far from everything so if you're stuck that's it. you're emigrating to a whole other country, download limits are the least of your worries.
>> OP
>>44093

I know, and I want to thank you for being the most rational post out of this whole thread. Permanant residence is what I'm aiming for, I've been researching this recently and am trying to gather the facts. TAFE, yeah, Was thinking of doing that. It seems pretty affordable.

With regards to living without a job, I'd be spending a good bit of time saving up additional funds before moving there, even then, I'd do my best to line up a job and my permanant residency visa BEFORE moving there. It would be pretty stupid to not even have a job and just run over there. I might see if there's some decently priced technical schools over here too, try some of those out if they're comparable to TAFE.

I've been looking at perth, as soon as I can, I'm going to be talking at length with my friends who live in Melbourne and other areas. It's a pretty spread out place, I get that, though. I guess my original post was somewhat poorly worded. What I'm coming here for is moreso what kind of questions I should ask, not whether or not what I've got thus far is good enough to haul ass, I want to plan and prepare ahead of time.
>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
>>44107

ok, that's good you're researching. moving countries is a huge deal and unless you're rolling in cash and have a diplomatic passport it's not easy.

perth is a good choice as at the moment it's one of the cheaper cities.

finding a job once you're actually in australia is probably going to be easier than if you're outside, but if you have some contacts that's a good start. most australian employers like to meet you before they hire you and are rather unlikely to hire somebody from overseas they've never met before unless they're a huge corporation or you're a friend of a friend of a friend. and even then it's still unlikely.

even so look at the australian job websites like careerone and seek.com.au to give you an idea as to what australian employers look for. seek is the better choice of the 2 as they have more options and even an overseas section. i'm not sure if it's really for people outside australia as this isn't a problem for me (being an ausfag and all) but it doesn't hurt to look.

i don't think you're going to be able to get permanent residency right off the bat. i think you have to have lived in australia for 3 or 4 years before you qualify. look at the visa information on the website for the australian embassy in america. you'll probably even be able to apply for visas through the website as we don't like doing more paperwork than we have to and it's the computer's fault, not ours, if it's lost. i think student visa is likely to be your best option as you can work while on one, in fact we encourage it.

good luck. i hope it works out for you.
>> OP
>>44167

Thanks, you've been a huge help. <3
>> Anonymous
You won't be able to get a work visa without a degree. End of story.
>> Anonymous
why would you want to come here? Australia's a hole, there's nothing to do, it's where people come to die. What you want is a job on an oil rig in Russia.
>> Anonymous
>>44185
>You won't be able to get a work visa without a degree. End of story.

QFT, you're going nowhere without a degree, enjoy you career with McDonald's
>> Anonymous
>>44199
>it's where people come to die

Isn't that Florida?
>> Anonymous
I don't know why everyone is chastising this guy when it's perhaps one of the more reasonable threads among the other /trv/esties.

First of all, NOT PERTH. Ever. It is NOT one of the cheapest cities anymore, rents have skyrocketed in the face of a mining boom. Food is about 10-30% more expensive than the Eastern States. Melbourne however is a far more reasonable choice, especially if you're willing to live outside the CBD. Still a really hot job market there too.

As for a government job, they're the most rigorous in their background checks, so in the event that you're not exactly legitimate yet, why would you aim for that?

Also as far as I know, the US isn't a country that have a working holiday arrangement with Australia. This may be untrue though, so check up on that. If only you were Canadian~
>> Anonymous
>>44220

>I don't know why everyone is chastising this guy when it's perhaps one of the more reasonable threads among the other /trv/esties.
>more reasonable threads among the other /trv/esties.
>more reasonable threads
>reasonable

HAHAHA 0/10

Seriously your fucking stupid if you think you can work in any country you want if you don't have anything going for you. Either get smart or shut the fuck up and live in your own country.
>> Anonymous
>>44247

OH I WANT GO TO NIPPON AND WORK AT ATLUS CREATING SUGOI GAMES AND EAT OUT OF BENTO BOXES WAKARIMASHTA!!!!!

Fuck you, jew. This is far less rage-worthy than any one of those Japanese threads.
>> Anonymous
>>44248

No this is the exact same as any thread about stupid retards who think they can live and work in a country with nothing to them. Everyone one of these damn threads is rage worthy.
>> Anonymous
>>44023


btw dont get the impression that everyone has a pet kangaroo and snakes crawl down the street....

i live in melbourne, the biggest spiders are harmless, no snakes, only mammals are possums, quite alot of those at night..
but this is the case for metropolitan melbourne

it all depends on where you go.

i think melbourne would be a good choice
>> Anonymous
OP, why do you want to come to Australia?
>> Anonymous
>>44253

...no snakes? What kind of Melbourne do *you* live in?

Housing in Melbourne is fucking expensive unless you want to live in the outer suburbs in which case you can 1.) look forward to spending 2hrs on public transport 2.) look forward to getting a car and sitting 2hrs in traffic.
>> Anonymous
>>44868

You'd have to be living in a Baloney Cuntsprings mcmansion paddock to see snakes in Melbourne.