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suggestions about spain? madrid?
>> Anonymous
>>64975

Madridfag here. What do you want to know?

- If you hate crowds, don't waste your time - just DON'T come to Madrid at all. Every street, every metro wagon, every place is crowded anytime.
- You have to visit the Prado museum, one of the biggest and finest art collections (pictures) in the world.
- Don't go to Madrid knowing only English. If you don't speak at least basic Spanish, you'll have a very hard time. It's not that we are used to dubbing each and every film in our cinemas and TV, it's that people even REFUSE to speak English unless you are a hot Nordic female. Please learn a few Spanish sentences. Oh, policemen do not speak English either. Good luck Anon.
- Participate in a botellón in the Malasaña district. Although this practice was made illegal some years ago, the police are too busy chasing immigrants for no reason to disturb you.
- Go to the Debod Temple (an original Egyptian temple which was brought to Madrid, stone by stone, on behalf of the Egyptian and Spanish governments) at sunset and/or sunrise.
- Tapas and sangría were the only fucking thing we Spaniards were proud of until we won the Euro 08 (I know /sp/ is over there --->). Don't hesitate to taste some sangría e.g. in Cuevas Sésamo or the surrounding area (Puerta del Sol, Tirso de Molina, Huertas...). Puerta del Sol, Malasaña and La Latina are the best places for "tapeo", i.e. having tapas from bar to bar. Beware of robbers in La Latina though.

This native Madridanon is ready to help you further.
>> Anonymous
samefag ageing for justice
>> Anonymous
>>65019
I have a question for you, native Madridanon. My current gf's father had grandparents that were native Spaniards. I found this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_return#Spain

with particular interest in list item #2. Is this true? Could she effectively get a visa to Spain, live and work there for a year, and then apply for citizenship? I'm asking, because I haven't found any definitive information on any Spanish government site yet.
>> Anonymous
>>65290
I've found this in a website about Spanish law: http://www.obufete.com/articulo4.html

"3.º) Uno (o varios) de mis abuelos (o abuelas) era español, no así mis padres, ¿puedo adquirir la nacionalidad española?

Sólo podrá usted recuperar la nacionalidad de sus abuelos después de residir en España de forma legal, continuada e inmediatamente anterior a su solicitud, durante un período de un año. Para poder residir de forma legal en España es preciso solicitar el correspondiente visado y el oportuno permiso de trabajo y/o residencia (ver sección inmigración). Como nieto de españoles, no se verá afectado por la suspensión vigente del régimen de los permisos ordinarios de trabajo y tampoco se tendrá en cuenta la situación nacional del empleo a la hora de valorar su oferta de trabajo por los servicios del INEM."

Translation:

"One (or more) of my grandparents was a Spaniard, but not my parents; am I allowed to apply for Spanish citizenship?

You can only claim your grandparents' citizenship after having lived in Spain legally and continuously for a year immediately before you apply. To live legally in Spain, you need to claim the corresponding visa and work/residence authorization (see http://www.consulate-spain-chicago.com/work.htm for details). As a Spaniards' grandchild, you shall not be affected by the current suspension of ordinary work authorizations, and the current national employment situation shall not be taken into account either when your work offer is valued by INEM (national employment agency).
>> Anonymous
>>65295
Thanks for the translation. I read Spanish though ;) The Wikipedia article said this is effectively extended to great-grandparents of original Spaniards, but this wasn't mentioned in the Spanish Civil Code:

http://civil.udg.es/NORMACIVIL/estatal/CC/1T1.htm#BM22

The only thing I could think of would be: grandparent was born outside of Spain from Spanish parents and that person is who they're considering the Spanish ancestor. Also, I haven't found anything saying exactly how they want you to prove your grandparents were Spanish to circumvent the working restrictions on resident aliens. We're looking into recovering the birth certificates of her father, grandparents, and possibly beyond, if Spain is as good as Italy with the record keeping.
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>>65019
DOES MARIA VALVERDE LIVE IN MADRID

I WANT TO LOOK HER IN THE EYE

I WANT TO KNOCK HER DOORRRR
>> Anonymous
>>65296
>>65019
Hey otro madrileño por aqui :p
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>>65479
Source?
>> Anonymous
>>65482
Google Images, search "plano metro Madrid"
>> Anonymous
I don't mind crowds, so Madrid sounds cool.
>> Anonymous
>>65019

I cant afford hotels, can I stay with you?
>> Anonymous
madrid is cool

i would DEFINITELY suggest taking a day trip to Toledo, as it is a beautiful city with tons of stuff to see.
the food in spain is pretty good, but some what strange if youre american and not expecting what it is.
I stayed with 2 families for 2 weeks, and it was awesome, everyone is so nice!
>> Anonymous
Is there a way to get to Barcelona from Madrid? How is Barcelona?
>> Anonymous
>>65623

sleep under a statue.
>> Anonymous
>>65955

No, it's impossible.
>> Anonymous
>>66048

I meant by public transportation.
>> Anonymous
Barcelona is awesome. Go to the top of the Segrada Familia. See Goudi's stuff. If you go down south, see a legit Flamenco show in Sevilla or Grenada. Definitely see the see the Alhambra in Grenada, and visit the cathedral and bull ring in Sevilla. Malaga is also kinda cool. Birthplace of Picasso, mini Alhambra, Greek theater, decent party scene. Salamanca has a lot of history and is a major college town, so great party scene.

The bus system all over Spain (ALSA) is cheap and easy to use. There are also trains for long trips.