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Anonymous
I'm going to Saudi Arabia as an exchange student for a year and I'll be living in a mostly muslim community. I'm an agnostic/atheist and my question is should I present myself as christian or atheist? Which one causes less friction between me and the muslim students? I don't really care even if I have to call myself a christian as I was raised as one, but I'd still like to know which is easier to be in there
>> Anonymous
Actually, muslims should highly tolerate christians. The two religions overlap in a number of places. But you can't really tell someone's religion by looking at them. Really, I think that religion is probably one of your lesser problems. Being agnostic and an atheist are two very different things. They are not interchangeable. I wouldn't tout myself as an atheist in a pious community. Agnosticism is probably more acceptable even if grudgingly so.
>> Anonymous
Screw that... tell them your a christian, atleast they will think you beleive in the same god, i know from personal experience this is better.
>> Anonymous
>>31173
>>31172
yeah I'll go as a christian then. thanks!
>> Anonymous
Say you're a jew. They'll love you.
>> Anonymous
>>31172
>Being agnostic and an atheist are two very different things.

This statement is untrue, if you put it unqualified like that.
>> Anonymous
>>31176
if you are going to do that you should at least know some basic stuff about christianity as someone will probably want to talk about religion.
>> Anonymous
>>31184
I was a "christian" until I moved out of my parent's house, so I think I have the basic gathered up
>> Anonymous
quran has stuff about not killing christians/jews, but they aren't so nice about NON BELEYVARS!!!!

But, we skipped the most important point. Why the fuck are you going to saudi fucking arabia? There are hundreds of nations outside, and you go with the one which can execute you for saying bad things about allah
>> Anonymous
>>31190
I've always been interested in muslims nations and saudis are the safest one.

As to why I'm interested: I want to see what is it about religion that can control a whole nation in this day and age and how they see religion not as opression as I do, but as a great liberty.
>> Anonymous
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We're going to see this guy on CNN in a few months reading a statement with an AK47 held to his head. Wear a mudkips shirt op so we'll know for sure it's you.
>> Anonymous
>>31192
They get mad pussy.
>> muslimous
>>31193
THAT DRAWING MEANS HOLYWAR!
DEATH TO EVERYONE ON 4CHAN!
>> Anonymous
Why don't you just say, that you might plan to convert so islam. If you intent to lie, do it properly.
>> Anonymous
>>31200
That would be the worst possible thing he could do.
>> Anonymous
>>31192
Actually, the other countries around the Persian Gulf are pretty safe too. (i.e. Kuwait, Qatar, U.A.E.)
>> Anonymous
Muslim reporting in. Don't know much about Saudi Arabia because I don't care much about the Saudis. I hear horror stories about them abusing and raping foreign workers and get light punishments. Bastards. Their brand of Islam is the cancer that's killing it and I only have to go there eventually because Mecca is in their stupid kingdom. If you want to go to an Arab country, maybe the UAE or Jordan would be better. I hear Lebanon is nice when they're not shooting each other.
>> Anonymous
>>31190
He wants to fake his way into Mecca and take a leak on the big black thing in the middle. THEN we'll see him on CNN with an AK-47 to his head wearing a mudkip shirt.
>> Anonymous
>>31203
They're ALWAYS shooting each other in Lebanon.
>> Anonymous
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Wear this and run down the streets yelling the dradle song.
>> Anonymous
>>31204
What fucking leak, I want to strap 4 kilos of C4 on me and blow the damn thing up!
>> Anonymous
Funny that i stumble upon this topic,
I'm a half nigerian living in europe, after parents got divorced i was raised as christian... father lives in nigeria, wants me to visit him and his half of my family, to go or not to go? Anon, please calculate my chances of survival.
>> Anonymous
>>31213
Don't go. He will capture you then sell you to muslim slave-traders and then you will be forced to beg on the streets of Abuja. This shit really happens, no joke.
>> Anonymous
>>31214
It's a pretty shady situation, my father showed up in a suit when i was 18, claiming he's become very successful in nigeria etc, with no proof at all of his business, claiming he's rich and mature and a better person, gave me some money too but i haven't heard anything from him for over a year.. this is some scary shit and i mean business. Nigeria is a easy place to make someone dissapear, hell i can't even google my father and find him.. i'd probably need a GPS probe up my ass if i went there and even then no police force could do anything to help , amirite?
>> Anonymous
>>31213
You should go. It would mean one less nigger in europe and we would be grateful.
>> Anonymous
>>31216
Thank you for your honest input, it has been noted. However i am more interested in information regarding safety in nigeria especially as a christian since this issue is kinda intwined with OPs question
>> Anonymous
>>31216
2nded
>>31222
if you are so religious go to america i heard they still believed that shit there
>> Anonymous
A non-practicing Christian is the way to go I'd say. As a bonus you might tell them you're considering converting to Islam and they'll be super nice to you, but you'd need to know some basics about Islam for that.
>> Anonymous
>>31222
Didn't you hear about all the scams they pull of Nigeria? They would either try to pull you into one of those but if you deny, they will take your passport, burn it, step on it, laugh at you and force you to work for them, for NOTHING.
>> Anonymous
wait hold up. wtf. WHY are you going Saudi Failabia. That place is absolute shit where you will have no rights and if something happens to you (most likely raped or killed) it's going to be there word against yours and they will always take the communities word first. If your are an agnostic/atheist, sandnigger country is the last place on earth you should go.
>> Anonymous
>>31203
>I hear horror stories about them abusing and raping foreign workers and get light punishments.

This is true, but only happens to non western foreigners. I lived in Riyadh for 2 years as part of my job (installed air conditioning units in buildings), and they were always cordial and friendly to whites. Philipinos and hindus on the other hand....

Anyway, as long as you live in a Western compound its really no different than being in the states, UK, etc.
>> Anonymous
>>31215

Hahahaha. Don't ever trust a Nigerian who says he's successful. Haven't you learned anything from spam e-mail?
>> Anonymous
>>31192
>and how they see religion not as opression as I do, but as a great liberty.

What? Wow... just wow. OP is a fucking flaming retard who has no idea what Wahhabism is and why it's the worst thing on the planet. It makes mainstream Islam look like Buddhism by comparison.

>>31192
>saudis are the safest one.

Maybe if you're a saudi male muslim. But a christian? Hahaha. They can treat foreigners like shit and the courts will always, ALWAYS take their side because they're a saudi muslim and you aren't. So literally they can do anything they want to you and you cant do shit back.

>>31222
Nigerian muslims are always making up reasons to kill nigerian christians. And no, I'm not kidding. They also kidnap christian girls and force them to marry muslims just to increase the muslim population. The police wont even help the families get them back most of the times because they dont want to start shit with the violent muslims.

Feel free to look up any part of my post if you don't think I'm telling the truth. In fact, I believe an incident of nigerian christian teenagers getting kidnapped as sex slaves happened just recently too. It was actually in the international news even though it was just business as usual in Nigeria.
>> Anonymous
>>31241
Listen to this man OP.
>> Anonymous
>>31255
>They can treat foreigners like shit and the courts will always, ALWAYS take their side because they're a saudi muslim and you aren't.
Indeed, they're sentencing a Turkish muslim to death because he said "fuck your allah and your book" to someone, which is a common form of swearing in Turkey. No, it's not safe.
>> Anonymous
ITT: people who don't know shit about the Middle East.

>>31193
Get back to /b/ and stop shitting up 4chan.
>> Anonymous
go to Lebanon or Turkey or oh god anywhere but Saudi Arabia
>> Anonymous
I'm more interested in the fact that OP is going as an exchange student.

More details are required.

Also, /trv/ is full of faggots from /b/.
>> Anonymous
Why would you be an exchange student in a country where every kind of fun is outlawed?
>> Anonymous
tell you're a christian. They will consider you like a shit but at least they will see you as a "god fearing" guy. Atheists/agnostics and polytheists are lower than shit in islam.
>> Anonymous
OP isn't going to Saudi Arabia. That makes as much sense as going to a hardcore prison for a year. You have no rights, civil liberties or freedom. They can murder you and pay the court the minor fee for getting blood on a public street.

Only retards want to go live in a Muslim nation and get to see what it is like to be a third class citizen surrounded by hateful and abusive Islamic fucks.
>> Anonymous
Tell them that you are a Christian and then bend over like the stupid faggot you are.
>> Anonymous
ITT: white eurofags who are scared of Muslims.
>> Anonymous
>ITT: eurofags who are suicidally unafraid of Muslims.

fixed, 10,000+ terror related attacks after 9/11 means Muslims are peaceful!
>> Anonymous
Jewish
>> Anonymous
>>31192saudis are the safest one

lol
>> Anonymous
>>31301fixed, 10,000+ terror related attacks

lol.

Also 10,000 out of hundreds of millions doesn't even equal 1%, genius.
>> Anonymous
>>31333
That's still way too high, genius.
>> Anonymous
You think fucking SAUDI ARABIA is SAFE?? Bloody turkey is 10x safer. You'll even get a fairer trial in IRAN (which isn't so bad if your muslim/christian) for god's sakes than SAUDI FUCKING ARABIA.
>> Anonymous
Better religious than atheistic.
Being a muslim is the best.
But they will try to convert you.
All the time.
>> Anonymous
I have a Frommer's Fun Fact for you.

You're going to get fucking stoned to death.
>> Anonymous
>>31216
loeled, chan-advice.
>> Anonymous
take a knife and do self-circumcision, then pretend being muslim
>> Anonymous
christian
>> Anonymous
>>31368
this

some traveler did it and went to mecca