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Hello /trv/

I'm from Spain (Europe) and I'm pretty sick of my country.

The people around me is annoying, I don't like the way are the things done here... so, I think I'm going to study something like graphic desing, Advertising design, Public relations and move to USA.

My question is: Should I move there in a couple of years? There are good job opportunities? If there, which state should I move?

Thank you.
>> Anonymous
bump
>> Anonymous
First of all, you need to read up on how green cards work.

It's not like moving within the EU.
>> Anonymous
>>45301
don't study public relations if you like having a soul
>> Anonymous
>>45310
Thank for that advice

>>45309
I have read that is really hard to get a green card. The people usually gets an "visa" (You can work for a time) and then, with help of his company you can get the green card.
>> Anonymous
The job market is bad right now, but you should not wait if you are ready to move.
>> Anonymous
I think you should do some online study on state gov'ts to figure out your best options as an immigrant. Some states are really cool and want to help you out with financial aid etc, and others want to hang you from a tree.
>> Anonymous
>>45317
That's cool, Do you have any Idea what are the bests states to emigrate?
>> Anonymous
Move to Canada instead.

This comes from a fellow Eurofag.
>> Anonymous
>>45319
Why?
>> Anonymous
Spain is in Europe?

Shit.
>> Anonymous
>>45318
California, Florida...

Wait, how much money do you have?
>> Anonymous
>>45321
It's a Canadafag in disguise.
>> Anonymous
You could teach Spanish. We need to command our mexican immigrants somehow.
There are always available jobs, but our economy is bad right now. Before you learn a skill for a job, be sure that the job will still exist in a few years.
>> Anonymous
The job market is different from region to region and city to city depending on your skills experience and background.

The U.S. is a big goddamn country and there are a lot of really cool places here. If you ever have the opportunity to take a couple of weeks and see the U.S. I would highly recommend it.

If you're sick of the Mediterranean climate you might like living some place like Seattle, San Francisco, Denver, Minneapolis, Grand Rapids, NYC, New England, etc...all of those are pretty happening places...
>> Anonymous
http://wikitravel.org/en/United_States
>> Anonymous
Another question: It's easier to me to get a job and "be respected" because I'm european? Or I'm just another mexican for your eyes?
>> Anonymous
>>45337
I'd say it depends more on your credentials. The Mexicans that you're thinking about are usually illegal aliens and are from poor families in Mexico (which in itself has a huge gap between the rich and poor) and cannot speak English. It won't matter if you're skilled.

And most Americans can tell the difference between Spain and Mexico. Real life isn't like 4chan.
>> Anonymous
>>45337

This will largely depend on where you go. In more rural areas and the Southeast you might see that but really if you are a professional and you dress and carry yourself as one it won't be a problem.

Of course no matter where you go there's bound to be some retarded bigots but by and large I don't think this would be an issue in most of the major cities.
>> Anonymous
>>45337
You'll be fine being Spanish. Your education and experience are what get you the job.

My first suggestion on a place to move to would be Dallas. Unemployment is still very low, cost of living is cheaper than the other 10 largest cities, and Money Magazine's yearly list of the 100 best cities to live in gave 10 of them to the Dallas suburbs. It's one of the more liberal cities in the country, but if that's not your flavor, redneck Texas is just a short drive away.

If you can afford it, any large city in California would be a winner. It's just much more expensive to do anything in that state.
>> Anonymous
>Dallas
>It's one of the more liberal cities in the country

you obviously have never been outside of texas
>> Anonymous
>>45366
I want to see this man's idea of a conservative city.

that said, TX wouldn't be bad and bilingualism is useful there
>> Anonymous
How much do you have to earn yearly to afford a "good life"? (Your own house, car, gadgets, good clothes...)
>> Anonymous
>>45405

Depends on what you consider a "good life," and where you want to live.

Some people consider owning a simple ford car and living in Suburbia, USA a "good life," some would say having enough money to go on a yearly International vacation is the minimum for a "good life."

Then of course, like I said, where you want to live plays a huge role in it. A shack in certain California cities can go for the same amount as a very nice house in the Midwest.
>> Anonymous
>>45409
Thanks.

Whats the average salary in CA?
>> Anonymous
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>>45411
See picture, data according to:

http://www.payscale.com/research/US/State=California/Salary/by_City
>> Anonymous
>>45413
WOW, here in Spain the people who end his studies earn about 900€ Month / 12000 Year, which is US$18000.

A person who wins 2000€ Month / US$36000 has actually a "good life", I mean if he is single, he has a VERY good life...

Why the fuck I'm living here?
>> Anonymous
>>45416
The price jacks up where living expenses rise. Like any major city/area.
>> Anonymous
>>45419
I know. Same here.
>> Anonymous
>>45416

Keep in mind that even though you can translate a euro into the local currency literally (as in 1€ = $1.6), value does not always translate as easily. $36,000 can get you a very nice life in Spain (once again, "very nice" is all relative...), you'd need a good $80,000+ to live in a decent neighborhood in the more populous parts of California. So while $36,000 might seem like a lot to you in Spain right now, that is really a small, small, small amount, at least here in California. You might well end up living in dangerous areas.
>> Peter O'Toole !!9dHIaXg6fjZ
>>45424
Not if he has a good job lined up.
>> Anonymous
>>45424
But, if you wanna live in a decent neighborhood here in Spain, you have to win so much more.

I know what are you saying, but I'm saying that is difficult to find a person who earns more than 36000$ year in Spain.

Right now, houses are freaking expensive like 500000 USD$ a single flat with 3 bedrooms. a HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. And renting a small flat is about 800$ Month.

I'm just saying that in this country the people is getting paid too little.
>> Anonymous
>>45429

Oh, I see. Sorry for the misunderstanding, then.
>> Anonymous
Some parts of the country are not hit as hard by depressions, Dallas/Fort Worth, Tx for instance and you already knowing spanish gives you a nice edge in most southern states.
>> Anonymous
>>45413
San Jose is shit.
>> Anonymous
BOY YOU'VE GOT IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND
>> Anonymous
>>45458
Word
>> Anonymous
Spainfag here. Just learn some engineering degree if you want to move to the US/CAN/whatever country and you will get paid a lot more even in Spain. Aerospace related if possible for extra points. I worked in Seattle, Wichita and Montreal and i can tell you Montreal girls are 10 times hotter and friendlier.
>> Anonymous
No good job opportunities in graphic design. The market is so fucking oversaturated with graphic designers, you'll starve to death. Seriously, everyone does graphic design. You'll have to get a job flipping burgers. But I guess, if you're really passionate about it and/or are talented like a motherfucker, go for it.
>> Anonymous
>>45701
Allright, thanks.

I'm not a good student, tough. But I will definitely try hard to make my life better somewhere in the US.
>> Anonymous
I don't know why but I have a feeling you would love Austin, Texas. The city is mostly just pretty chill college students
>> Anonymous
>>45707
But isn't Texas the homeland of rednecks?
>> Anonymous
>>45846

well check Maryland off the list, I was thinking of relocating there for a job, but their housing costs are insane up there.
>> Anonymous
>>45853

didn't mean to quote
>> Anonymous
>>45846

Not Austin, it's one of the most liberal cities here in the US. People are nice, and there's a shitload of job opportunities. The worst rednecks in Texas live mostly to the east. DO NOT go to that part ever. They hate EVERYONE.
>> Anonymous
Avoid USA they will be Hispanic in 20 years
go to Canada
>> Anonymous
US is still pretty good for jobs. The recession last time has a record high unemployment of 6.5%, lower than most European countries during their boom cycle.

You'll find a job if you have what they want. Graphic and advertising design don't seem like winners for a job. Public relations might be. Some states have better opportunities and cost of living. The Northeast and West Coast are generally more expensive. The South and Southwest are cheaper than everywhere else. Job market wise, Texas and the mountain states still have really good prospects.
>> Anonymous
Also from Dallas. Good job opportunities but I don't really enjoy the city very much. The city is much more liberal than non-Texans think, but it's no Austin, San Francisco, etc.

I am actually about to live in Spain (in Granada) for the next four months. What don't you like about your country?
>> Anonymous
Generally, if you a find really cool city, other people are going to agree with you. These other people will probably have more money, and cost of living will be pretty high. That said, I'd rather have a shoebox somewhere I like than a nice house somewhere I hate. I'd try to find work first and see where they can house you. Might be smart to put in a couple years wherever they need you the most, and then try to move to where you want. Hopefully in a few years after you finish your education, the housing market will stabilize and there will be a little more reasonably priced housing in the North East and Los Angeles.