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Where to Immigrate to Anonymous
So /trv/ I'm at a point in my life where I have the capability of moving somewhere, and don't want to limit myself to the states. I'm from a town outside of San Fransisco, and just need a change in scenery. What I'm looking for are places that view immigration from the U.S. as a good thing, and aren't prohibitively expensive. Somewhere that is a cultural hub, has good local music, and a good view on alternative forms of public transportation ( Biking especially.) If it's not too much to ask, somewhere that has English as a second language at least? Thanks guys, I really appreciate it.
Pic is lovely London
>> noko
London is a police state, enjoy your quest
>> Anonymous
>>66495
Went to london, just enjoyed it. Unfortunately it doesn't apply to my quest. Police State, prohibitively expensive, hard to immigrate to, etc etc.
>> Anonymous
There's nowhere to go. Where ever you go, your problems will follow you. As an American, you will be despised and face all sorts of social and professional discrimination. You're fucked.
>> Anonymous
>>66497
It's not as if I'm trying to escape the typical "American Problems," I just want to live in a different place, far away.

Any other advice...Places?
>> Anonymous
AMERICA IS THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD YOU TURNCOAT

GTFO MY COUNTRY BEFORE I THROW YOU OUT

YOU MAKE ME SICK
>> Anonymous
>>66499
...Just wow...
>> Anonymous
>>66497
Not true. Need moar /trv/ling.

>>66492
Need more information, OP. Are you single or have a family? This can make or break a country for you cost of living-wise.
>> Anonymous
Australia?
>> Anonymous
>>66505
Oh, sorry, I'm single and just turned 20. I have absolutely no commitments to stay here anymore. I'm definitely ready for a change.
>>66506
I'd be interested to look into it. Any reasons in particular why?
>> Anonymous
personally i'd love to live in peru or maybe southern mexico
>> Anonymous
>>66517
I speak spanish, but not well enough to function in a Latin American country... :(
>> Anonymous
I'm fairly interested in some of the Norse countries as well, any recommendations?
>> Anonymous
>>66518
You'd be surprised how quickly you'd pick it up. In three months, you'd be very functional in the society.
>> BAWWW I WANT TO RUN AWAY FROM BIG BAD AMERIKKA Anonymous
>>66524
YEA GO LIVE UP THERE LIKE A WELFARE BUM

GO CHECK THE LOCAL NEWS STORIES ON IMMIGRANT RAPE AND CRIME RATES
>> Anonymous
>>66525
Hm, good to know. Problem is with most of Latin America, I can't stand the heat. I don't do well with heat and humidity well at all. I spent a bit of the summer in Belize, and not to classify some other countries like it, but it was too hot for me.
>> Anonymous
Amsterdam, awesome city for biking, amazing beautiful, and if you don't want to be around drugs it's easy to stay away from the areas because of the zoning laws. I've been to Amsterdam twice, the people are very nice, the food is excellent, there is a lot of culture, and the tram system and biking lanes are the best I've seen (I have been on every continent but Asia and Antarctica). I rented a bike the second time I went, and it was indeed the best way to see the city. Everyone I met there was extremely nice.

Cape Town, South Africa would also be a good choice, but the political climate there is getting a little tumultuous. Although Cape Town is a much safer city than Jo-Berg (where all the crime happens) and the people get along much better there (hardly any racial problems as opposed to Johannesburg.)

Also, Australia is would be good. Most people like an American when they meet them personally.

Montreal Canada and Vancouver would also fit for you.
>> Anonymous
>>66533
Ah, I've never thought about Amsterdam. One of the questions I have is, how easy is it to move to any of the countries listed here? Would I just get a travel visa to stay there for 6 months or so, and try and renew my visa to be able to work there? I'm not very knowledgeable about how it all works. Thanks, so far there have been a lot of good suggestions. Vancouver is sitting pretty high on the list right now...
>> Anonymous
>>66624
If you're a US passport holder, you most likely don't need a travel visa. If you want to stay longer than the length of the visa or visa on arrival, you'll need a residence visa. Check the immigration site for whatever country you wish to live in.
>> Anonymous
>>66626
Cool, I am. So now I guess it's just about trying to find a place.
Keep the suggestions coming! It's been awesome how helpful it's been so far!
What do you guys think of Stockholm?
>> Anonymous
>>66624
Living in Vancouver is really expensive so I hope you have lots of money.
>> Anonymous
>>66631
I'm not too terribly well off, but I imagine I can manage. I don't know, if it's as expensive as London, it might be hard to manage. Any suggestions as to places that might be a bit less expensive?
>> Anonymous
Unfortunately you've chosen a bad time for it. The dollar has weakened so much in the last year or so that you'll find much of Europe pretty expensive.

As far as visa (etc.) requirements go, any EU countries signed up to the Schengen Agreement should have the same requirements (I think that covers most of the EU, perhaps one or two from the EFTA, but not the UK or Ireland).

I'd avoid the Nordics if I were you - cold and rather boring. Amsterdam would be a good move, though not cheap. In your shoes, I'd probably look at Prague, Barcelona, and Amsterdam (in that order). You can find a lot about the people and places online, once you know which cities you're interested in. Depending on what exactly you're looking for, you could also consider Marseilles, Olomouc, Krakow, Tbilisi, Ljubljana and Rome. A lot depends on what you intend to do once your there - be sure to look into employment possibilities when assessing anywhere.
>> Anonymous
>>66635
Alright, thanks a ton. Prague is apparently gorgeous, and an amazing city. I had forgotten to look into it. Is English largely accepted while I get situated?
>> Anonymous
>>66637
Yes - English is very common in Prague, it won't be a problem. My only advice in that respect would be to get someone to help you out with the foreigners' police bureaucracy, as they never speak English.
>> Anonymous
>>66639
What do you mean Foreigners Police Bureaucracy?
>> Anonymous
Come to Republic of Srpska! City Banjaluka. you wont need language or bike.
>> Anonymous
>>66645
I like languages and bikes though :(
>> Anonymous
Australia/New Zealand are very good choices, but it depends on what you really want out of life.

Everywhere absolutely despises America (and therefore Americans) for their disgusting foreign and domestic policies that are literally endangering the world, politically, militarily and economically. Don't expect to be treated too well anywhere.
>> Anonymous
>>66672
I just want to leave my home, and I'm in the position of exploring a completely new place. As I said before it would be really nice to learn how people in a few other countries live, what are some of the facets of life that are different between two different places. I am completely fine with being initially disliked, but if it continues, it should be noted that that type of ignorance is no better than other forms of racism practiced in other places. As you probably know, I am personally not the keeper of my government's actions. Right now, Australia is pretty high, but I think I'm almost settled on Vancouver.

Can anyone tell me a little bit about it? Should I start a different post just regarding Vancouver?
>> Anonymous
As said before, no one likes Amerikans. THey fuck up everywhere and everyone and then expect to be treated like coll normal people. Stay where you are fag. Clean your mess.
>> Anonymous
I don't recommend London. England is indeed a police state, and it's very disappointing for an American who expects a society better than America. Also, it's comically expensive.

Dublin is nice but also fucking expensive. But learn to drink. And the Irish are racist, but they love Americans even more than the English.

Australia is worse than America. Avoid it.

Canadians are smug, but I've heard that Vancouver is the greatest city on Earth. Montreal looks gorgeous, as does Toronto.

New Zealand is backwards and you'll be scared shitless. They don't even do indoor heating.

South Africa has the highest murder rate on Earth. Good luck.

That just about does it for the English speaking countries. I ignore the former English colonies in Africa and the Carribean because they're hardly cultural hubs.

Why not move to another big city in America? They're less alike than you think.
>> Anonymous
>>66799
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>>66797
>That just about does it for the English speaking countries.
Not quite.
>> Anonymous
>>66797

Vancouver is just Seattle except instead of being an Aerospace and High-tech hub, its just full of junkies.
>> Anonymous
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Norway. Expensive for tourists, normal prices if you live and work here. Just dont go to Oslo, try cities or towns in western or northern norway. Bergen, Stavanger and Trondheim are good places to check out. Pic related, western norway.
>> Anonymous
>>66776

I disagree. Yes, there's a great lot of people and cultures who despise America, but notice that said people/ cultures tend to consist of ignorant bastards who wouldn’t tolerate anyone with a different name, let alone America.

Most people often use reason before judgement, so they'll usually assess you according to how you act in their city/village/e.t.c. It's also very unfair to claim that everyone hates you because you are from X place, because it is a conclusion based on a cosmetic perspective, and might just serve as an excuse for you to act like a twat in other countries, under the guise that 'this is what they thought of me all along'.
>> Anonymous
Scotland.

All the good of the UK with none of the police state bullshit (partially devolved government).

Beautiful Highlands. Seriously, seriously good cycling.

No race/nationality problems. No trouble with immigration (London takes that blow for us).

Great job prospects for legal immigrants (most of our workforce north of Edinburgh comes from Eastern Europe).

Excellent public transport. Extensive cycle routes.

Do it, faggot. We'll go drinking.
>> Anonymous
If you want to stay in the states, you should look into Austin Texas, its nothing like the steyrotypical Texas and biking is HUGE there. also local music is the main attraction downtown. Its right on the edge of the hill country which is real nice
>> Anonymous
I live in west yorkshire, england.
Country side is pleasant i guess, rains alot. moterways smell like cow shit most of the time.

Your choice.
>> Anonymous
>>66855

in b4 you spellcheck my ass motorways. fuck.

Australia would be alright i imagine as it's not that easy to emmigrate to, need a certain amount of points based on your qualifications and the like. It's like a sunny England without all the fucking niggers clogging up society.
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Try Budapest, or one of the towns of Western Hungary. Sopron, Pécs or Kaposvár.

Advantages: Cheap to live in, interesting, and many say that quite beautiful. Most people are quite friendly too...

Try to look for a job as an english teacher for an university or a company as the country has a dire need for english teachers due to a shortage in knowledge of foreign languages.

Disadvantages: People rarely speak english well, making socialization a bit hard.