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Amerifag, wants to move to Europe Anonymous
Hey what's up /trv/, I'm 18 and am an accounting student, to be certified and licensed in about 3.5 - 4.5 years. Ever since I was younger, I've always felt an affinity towards European provinces such as the Netherlands, England, France, and Germany. Lately, I've desired more and more to at least visit the big wonderful cities in those countries. Now my question to you is, how realistic would it be for a Certified Public Accountant from the United States to move to let's say, Amsterdam/Paris/London? How are the job markets in general, and would I have to get an entirely different license/degree over there? I mean, looking at it logically, it doesn't make sense. Go to school in US, be a US accountant, go to school in France, be an accountant there?


Any help/advice is appreciated. I do understand that visiting would be the best thing before making a bigger decision, but I'm a freshman in college, and I've always disliked being in the United States (New York, by the way), and that feeling builds up more and more. People in those nice European countries actually take time to enjoy life, and have different views upon issues than the overworked, overweight, and narrow-minded nationalist population of the US.
>> Anonymous
dont expect europe to be less "nationalist". by many standards, the US is the least nationalist country on the planet. there might be some morons in the south and midwest, but how can you complain about nationalism in NY? anyone can come to the US and become american. people dont become german or dutch or french,no matter how many years they spend in germany or the netherlands or france. england maybe but its still hard.
>> Anonymous
>>73085

See:

>>73072


If you don't like overworked people or nationalism...well, you're outta luck in most of these cases. The cost of living in London and Paris is even more outrageous than that of NYC, thus the people are predictably even more stressed. Not out having fun. And racism is even more prevalent in the UK and France than it is in the US.

Of those choices, your best bet would be Amsterdam, but even that won't be the utopia you envision it to be (much cheaper than London & Paris though, and Netherlands isn't so nationalistic/racist). You should consider Berlin though, low cost of living and a very carefree environment. Just watch out for the fascists that surround the city.
>> Anonymous
The only difference between the US and Europe in terms of nationalism and racism is who the targets are.
>> Anonymous
very interesting points
>> Anonymous
If you're talking about straight out moving there, you'd obviously need to get re-certified in whatever that specific place requires nationals to have. And that's not a very good idea anyways, not to mention it most likely wouldn't happen...and if you are serious about it, it would take an exorbitant amount of time, and consequently, money. I'd say finish your school and everything and get a good job here, and then try to get placed somewhere over there. HSBC, a bank that I'll be working for in a few months, has branches all over the world and I'm probably going to be working in management in France or Japan. Also, you're almost inevitably setting yourself up for a world of disappointment by the way you're looking at things; things other people have said in this thread are 100% true.
>> Anonymous
Hello fellow Amerifag.

trv is not the ideal place to ask. You should go to a forum that has more european folks such as

http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=18

civfanatics forum off topic. More than half of them are european.
>> Anonymous
Your best bet would be to leave the US to go to university in another country. The US CPA program is not going to work in Europe. Take a vacation to cities that you think you might like to live in and get info on universities there. Take a crash course in the language, you will probably have to pass a test before you can get in the university. Plan on working for a while before starting the university unless you have mega savings. There will be delays. Marry a citizen to get a visa.
>> Anonymous
>>73317
>Marry a citizen to get a visa.
That is the worst goddamn advice i've ever heard in regard to travel.

Get the fuck out.
>> Anonymous
heheh its done all the time
>> Anonymous
Terry Gilliam was American and became British, and we're all pretty fond of him.

Keep the faith, American brutha