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/trv/ I wish to learn of Shanghai, I hear it's pretty nice for a modern day city but I've heard otherwise.
>> Anonymous
That picture is awesome
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>> Anonymous
they look cool but they are among the most miserable hellholes on the planet
>> Anonymous
where can i get a happy ending massage?
>> Anonymous
I'm there right now.

It's got it's nice sections, and it's shitty sections, just like most cities. The tourist areas are all well kept, and the suburbs and areas where Chinese live could use some repair. If you stay on the freeways you'd never notice the difference from any American city except the fact that everyone drives like a maniac.

Walking through Nanjing Lu or People's Square or other tourist places you'll find a lot of expensive shops and everything looks nice, but there are always people peddling wares and beggars asking bothering you.

In the suburbs and less nice places these people don't exist, and the locals are actually very nice to foreigners.

Is it a hellhole? No. You just have to know what you're doing.

I'll be here for another 2 months. Any questions?
>> Anonymous
>>41184

I should also mention, China is still a developing nation, so Shanghai is not as nice as other major cities around the world in rich countries - obviously. But for Chinese standards it's very expensive and very nice.

I'm from Minnesota, and comparing it to major metropolitan areas I've been to (DC, Minneapolis, Chicago, Memphis, Orlando, Winnipeg, Milwaukee, etc) it's easier to fall into some bad places in Shanghai, but if you stick to main roads and tourist places, like I said before, everything is actually nicer than in the cities I've been to. The Pearl Tower is amazing, and places like Pizza Hut and Haagan Daz are high quality restaurants ($10 for a double scoop of ice cream).

I'm studying here, so I live in the suburb - I'm not a tourist.
>> Anonymous
>>41185
yea i have a question (im also here right now for the summer)

is there a good place you recommend for breakfast? im looking for a place that has the long-shaped deep-fried chinese equivalent to a donut (You Tiao or ?? [lit. oil stick] usually consumed with soy bean milk). preferrably some place that is clean (or at least looks clean), but if there arent any that have decent shanghai-authentic products, then id be fine with like a mom-and-pop type place

also, are there any places to buy video game consoles such as the ps3 or wii (non modded and english if any chance)? ive been to the xujiahui area and that place looks like a good place, but im not sure if that place is haggle-friendly.

how do i get to qipu lu? i looked on www.mapofshanghai.com, which has an option of looking up a street in a directory, but qipu lu doesnt come up in that list.

also, i was here about 2 years ago right before the xiangyang market got permanently closed down, and ive heard the replacement is at the science/tech museum? is that true?
>> Anonymous
>>41188

I usually eat breakfast in my apartment, as I don't have a lot of time in the morning from when I wake up to when class begins. I live in the Yang Pu district (near Fudan daxue), so I don't think any place I recommend will be universal - I just recommend finding a decent looking bakery or street vendor (look for lines) to eat at.

As for PS3's and Wii's... Well, the one Wal-Mart nearest to Yang Pu has an underground market/shopping center that has an electronics mart that sells all manner of mp3 players/consoles/cell phones and you can definitely haggle there. I bought a phone there and was able to haggle the price in half of what was posted. I don't know how good of an idea it is to buy a console here, however, given the fact that the Chinese currently overprice all electronics.

As for the Xiangyang market... I hadn't actually heard about that. But now I will definitely go check it out and see about the Science center and 580 Nanjing Lu. I don't know about Qi Pu Lu. I'll ask my Chinese roommate if he knows where it is if/when he gets back.

Add me on AIM: oskoalo

Where are you staying, and why are you in Shanghai and for how long? Also, where are you from? Are you fluent in Mandarin?
>> Anonymous
>>41188

Okay I just asked my roommate and he pointed to Zhabei District in an area near the intersection of Tianmu Lu and ZheJiang Lu. It isn't on the map, but apparently it's around that area, so if you ask people will point you in the right direction.

He did say that the clothes quality was not very good, however.
>> Anonymous
to the two guys in shanghai:

i'm going to be nearby for work for a while starting next week (i am australian). i understand the locals work like 28 days a month there, but due to my position in the company i'm with i'll unlikely have to work that much. i'm just wondering what the nightlife is like, and where some good places are around shanghai. how much have you travelled around the yangtze river delta region (i'll be living and working in huzhou), and what's the tourist population like in this area, but outside shanghai/nanjing?

thanks

the guy who posted their aim: i added you, if thats ok

cheers
>> Anonymous
>>41194
im staying at a parent's friend's place. i dont know exactly WHERE i am but i do know that the nearest metro station is the hongqiao lu station. ill be here until early august because im here for a summer job at a chemical engineering place (again, dont know the name). im fluent in basic chinese (like 'im looking for the nearest ____'), but my reading is really weak. i usually have to look at the english version of the metro map before i can decide which line to take and such, but ive gotten better at it since i got here (around mid june)

thanks for the advice, btw.

>>41222
uh from a foreigner's point of view (even though i look like i fit in), the nightlife here depends on where you are and what youre looking for. obviously at the tourist places (shanghai bund and xintiandi - the places that youd be recommended to in any travel guide) have a bunch of ppl late at night walking around, taking pictures and such. if this is your first time in shanghai, i suggest going to see the shanghai bund and walk along nanjing lu (i dont know if the west and east ends are close, i just know that i think i got lost and accidentally walked all the way across and it was tiring as FUCK - WEAR WALKING SHOES!!). unfortunately, i dont know where the good places to hang out at night are - like clubs or bars or something and to be honest im a little bit interested too. and unfortunately, i wouldnt be able to answer your questions about tourists in those specific areas cause i dont know much about those places at all lol.

>>41185
do you mean the Pearl Plaza? if so, where is it?
>> Anonymous
>>41231
well as far as the nightlife is concerned i guess asking you is probably a dead end since you dont seem to have much experience - would you be interested in exploring it with me when i get there?
>> Anonymous
>>41235

lol anonidate.

I just got back from a club called Banana. Shit sucked. Of course, it's near Fudan so all of these clubs are expensive. In the neighborhoods you can get trashed for 10 yuan, but here it was 30rmb per drink - which were tiny.

Lonely Planet has a pretty good guide to the bars and nightlife of SH. I haven't read it, but my friend has - I'll ask her.
>> Anonymous
>>41253
yeah... thats not exactly what i meant...

i find the idea of seeking nightlife out through lonely planet to be amusing, considering the places i've seen in there for cities i know well. what kind of music do they play?
>> Anonymous
>>41235
lol that all really depends.

a/s/l?
>> Anonymous
>>41337
25/m/australian

this is not an invitation for sex in any way btw ;P
>> Anonymous
>>41358
yea same ehre
19/m/ABC
>> Anonymous
I'm going to Shanghai very soon to the Songjiang area as a student. I'm Chinese but cannot speak Chinese, and has never been to China. I'm BBC (British Born Chinese).

Shanghai is a great city from what I hear. But Shanghai has the worst girls.
>> Anonymous
>>41368
depends where and when you look, really.
the later it is at night and the closer you are to the higher end and upscale places (i.e. upscale shopping centers on nanjing lu), the better they are
>> Anonymous
>>41380
wait what

come again

how do i got laid?
>> Anonymous
>>41401
oh. if thats what you mean, then go to a club or something. maybe even a massage parlor.
>> Anonymous
>>41403
or get your hair cut
>> Anonymous
>>41405
oh, right. but i heard thats more of a taiwan thing
>> Anonymous
>>41406

Nope, happens all the time here. Look for the Salons with hazy glass windows.

Of course, not near any tourist areas (heavily policed), but in any suburbs you should be able to find what you're looking for. Street walkers are rare.

If you're really high class, and know much about Chinese language and culture - hit up a karaoke bar. Of course, don't expect a quick fuck. You have to be fluent in Chinese and very hospitable. Karaoke bars are steeped in Chinese tradition.