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In the spirit of this thread>>27284what makes germany so great?
Or what makes up their cultural character; their national soul?
>> Anonymous
Drinnen bevor Scheißesturm.
>> Anonymous
>>27828
schwul
>> Anonymous
>>27829
behindert
>> Anonymous
>>27826
>Or what makes up our cultural character; our national soul
Fix'd. I don't believe you're not German, and it's not good form to talk about yourself in third person.
>> Anonymous
>>27832
I'm not German :(
>> Anonymous
There was a time when it was customary to call Germans
"deep" by way of distinction; but now that the most successful
type of new Germanism is covetous of quite other honours, and
perhaps misses "smartness" in all that has depth, it is almost
opportune and patriotic to doubt whether we did not formerly
deceive ourselves with that commendation: in short, whether
German depth is not at bottom something different and worse--and
something from which, thank God, we are on the point of
successfully ridding ourselves. Let us try, then, to relearn with
regard to German depth; the only thing necessary for the purpose
is a little vivisection of the German soul.--The German soul is
above all manifold, varied in its source, aggregated and super-
imposed, rather than actually built: this is owing to its origin.
A German who would embolden himself to assert: "Two souls, alas,
dwell in my breast," would make a bad guess at the truth, or,
more correctly, he would come far short of the truth about the
number of souls. As a people made up of the most extraordinary
mixing and mingling of races, perhaps even with a preponderance
of the pre-Aryan element as the "people of the centre" in every
sense of the term, the Germans are more intangible, more ample,
more contradictory, more unknown, more incalculable, more
surprising, and even more terrifying than other peoples are to
themselves:--they escape DEFINITION, and are thereby alone the
despair of the French. It IS characteristic of the Germans that
the question: "What is German?" never dies out among them.
>> Anonymous
Kotzebue certainly knew his Germans well enough: "We are known,"
they cried jubilantly to him--but Sand also thought he knew them.
Jean Paul knew what he was doing when he declared himself
incensed at Fichte's lying but patriotic flatteries and
exaggerations,--but it is probable that Goethe thought
differently about Germans from Jean Paul, even though he
acknowledged him to be right with regard to Fichte. It is a
question what Goethe really thought about the Germans?--But about
many things around him he never spoke explicitly, and all his
life he knew how to keep an astute silence--probably he had good
reason for it. It is certain that it was not the "Wars of
Independence" that made him look up more joyfully, any more than
it was the French Revolution,--the event on account of which he
RECONSTRUCTED his "Faust," and indeed the whole problem of "man,"
was the appearance of Napoleon. There are words of Goethe in
which he condemns with impatient severity, as from a foreign
land, that which Germans take a pride in, he once defined the
famous German turn of mind as "Indulgence towards its own and
others' weaknesses." Was he wrong? it is characteristic of
Germans that one is seldom entirely wrong about them. The German
soul has passages and galleries in it, there are caves, hiding-
places, and dungeons therein, its disorder has much of the charm
of the mysterious, the German is well acquainted with the bypaths
to chaos. And as everything loves its symbol, so the German loves
the clouds and all that is obscure, evolving, crepuscular, damp,
and shrouded, it seems to him that everything uncertain,
undeveloped, self-displacing, and growing is "deep". The German
himself does not EXIST, he is BECOMING, he is "developing
himself".
>> Anonymous
". "Development" is therefore the essentially German
discovery and hit in the great domain of philosophical formulas,--
a ruling idea, which, together with German beer and German music,
is labouring to Germanise all Europe. Foreigners are astonished
and attracted by the riddles which the conflicting nature at the
basis of the German soul propounds to them (riddles which Hegel
systematised and Richard Wagner has in the end set to music).
"Good-natured and spiteful"--such a juxtaposition, preposterous in
the case of every other people, is unfortunately only too often
justified in Germany one has only to live for a while among
Swabians to know this! The clumsiness of the German scholar and
his social distastefulness agree alarmingly well with his physical
rope-dancing and nimble boldness, of which all the Gods have
learnt to be afraid. If any one wishes to see the "German soul"
demonstrated ad oculos, let him only look at German taste, at
German arts and manners what boorish indifference to "taste"! How
the noblest and the commonest stand there in juxtaposition! How
disorderly and how rich is the whole constitution of this soul!
The German DRAGS at his soul, he drags at everything he
experiences. He digests his events badly; he never gets "done"
with them; and German depth is often only a difficult, hesitating
"digestion." And just as all chronic invalids, all dyspeptics like
what is convenient, so the German loves "frankness" and "honesty";
it is so CONVENIENT to be frank and honest!--This confidingness,
this complaisance, this showing-the-cards of German HONESTY, is
probably the most dangerous and most successful disguise which the
German is up to nowadays: it is his proper Mephistophelean art;
with this he can "still achieve much"!
>> Anonymous
The German lets himself go,
and thereby gazes with faithful, blue, empty German eyes--and
other countries immediately confound him with his
dressing-gown!--I meant to say that, let "German depth" be what it
will--among ourselves alone we perhaps take the liberty to laugh
at it--we shall do well to continue henceforth to honour its
appearance and good name, and not barter away too cheaply our old
reputation as a people of depth for Prussian "smartness," and
Berlin wit and sand. It is wise for a people to pose, and LET
itself be regarded, as profound, clumsy, good-natured, honest, and
foolish: it might even be--profound to do so! Finally, we should
do honour to our name--we are not called the "TIUSCHE VOLK"
(deceptive people) for nothing. . . .
>> Anonymous
i smell nazis
>> Anonymous
>>27837
I'm not sure, but I'm almost completely sure thats ripped directly from Mein Kampf or whatever.

Only because it has the word "German" every 3 words. Hitler was a shitty writer.
>> Anonymous
>>27839
Beyond Good and Evil by Nietzsche. Nietzsche is an overrated, pretentious fucker and so are people who cite him.
>> Anonymous
>>27840
>Nietzsche is an overrated, pretentious fucker and so are people who cite him.

2/10, try harder next time.
>> Anonymous
everything i don't understand is overrated and pretentious
>> Anonymous
Autobahns.
>> Anonymous
>>27841
NIETZSCHE IS AN OVERRATED, PRETENTIOUS FUCKER AND SO ARE PEOPLE WHO CITE HIM.
>> Anonymous
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-fLW-QNy4I
>> Anonymous
everything i don't understand is overrated and pretentious.
>> Anonymous
>>27844
yep, i miss them here.
>> Anonymous
killing 6 million jews
>> Anonymous
Nietzsche wanted to know "What is German?". If only he lived another 50 years he would have found out like the rest of us.
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>>27875
You mean our genetically imprinted desire to conquer our neighbours and kill religious minorities? Yeah, that's a typical German thing, I bet no other race ever does that.
On the lighter side we produce those really cute cuckoo clocks which kind of make up for all the war atrocities.
>> Anonymous
>>27826
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwsntHcWiy4
>> Anonymous
>what makes germany so great?

Machine tools, cars, and other superior manufactured products, often among (if not THE) best in the world.
Since you can buy them at home however, don't bother to go to Germany (unless it is your ambition to work in one of those prestigious factories).

And stop talking about nazis/military stuff, some Germans are retarded enough to believe that the world respects them for that, so they may end up doing that crap AGAIN. And we don't want to have to nuke Germany do we? it would mean no more cars and stuff.
>> Anonymous
>>27882
AGAIN it's not RACIAL it's CULTURAL. You talk just like a Nazi.
>> Anonymous
>>27931
>And stop talking about nazis/military stuff, some Germans are retarded enough to believe that the world respects them for that, so they may end up doing that crap AGAIN.

did it ever occur to you that perhaps we DO respect them for that?
>> Anonymous
/n/- Nazi basement elite since 2006
>> Anonymous
Germans are very pretentious and competitive. Everyone drives like an asshole. Their mentality couldn't be expressed better than by what happens in their parking lots: Even if, by normal American/decent person standards, you get to a parking space in a shopping center parking lot earlier than the average German, they will get pissed that you took what was "theirs."
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>>28045

Fuck yeah. And you guys DID have the best uniforms, so you got that going for you.
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Also, I hear German chicks are pretty hot.
>> Anonymous
>>28058
she can exterminate me any day.. if you know what i mean
>> Anonymous
>did it ever occur to you that perhaps we DO respect them for that?

Hmmm, I must say, no, it didn't occur to me.
Respecting people for starting wars they can't win, and ending up with their government overhtrown and country in ruins is beyond my comprehension, I'm afraid.

Then again, it's 4chan, so I've learned to expect the unexpectable long ago.
>> Anonymous
>>28060
thats why were so proud of you. you did what no one in their right mind ever would.
you are our heroes.
>> Anonymous
>>28058
Yeah I was about to say that.

Its pretty much because Germans don't eat alot of food. Very efficient like that. A typical german meal is like, a roll of tough bread and some rolled up sandwich meat. The portions in all the restrants are small. So its pretty uncommon to find a fat German. They do exist however, i should know, I had sex with about 3 of them. Thats actually an acheivement, because I fucked 1/3rd of all Germans in that demographic.
>> Anonymous
>>28064

Achievement Unlocked
20G - Ich Bin Ein Berliner
>> Anonymous
>>28064

There are more than 9 fat Germans in my wife's family alone. Including, sadly, my wife.
She had okay looks until she turned 25, though.
>> Anonymous
>>28062
>starting wars they can't win, and ending up with their government overhtrown and country in ruins
>you did what no one in their right mind ever would.

Ah, it looks like the American crusade in Iraq may end up that way, too.
>> Anonymous
>There are more than 9 fat Germans in my wife's family alone

The only places in Germany devoid of fat people were the concentration camps.
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>>28072
Who exactly is going to overthrow America's government?
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SUPER DUPER SUPER MEN
>> Anonymous
Most chermans are cunts

teh edn
>> Anonymous
fucking sexy accents.
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>> Anonymous
>>28113
I LOVE DONALD DUCK !
>> Anonymous
>>28099
>Who exactly is going to overthrow America's government?

We (Americans) if this shit continues too long. Or, it's possible that we're a Chinese puppet state already without having been told.
>> Anonymous
>>28129
Achdukagge, gibs Kackchan etwa immer noch?
>> Anonymous
>>28058
Saved.
>> Anonymous
>>28060
>Respecting people for starting wars they can't win,

It was easilly winnable, Hitler was a fucking moron whos smart military decisions began and ended with the blitzkrieg.

>and ending up with their government overhtrown and country in ruins is beyond my comprehension, I'm afraid

That's generally what happens when you lose wars.
>> Anonymous
>>29053
>It was easilly winnable

No; Germany didn't have the manpower to conquer and hold the rest of Europe, the Soviet Union and the USA at once. Sooner or later, they were done for. Especially since the Germans were growing tired of the war and the partisans/resistance was growing increasingly bolder and more dangerous.

>That's generally what happens when you lose wars.
More the exception than the rule throughout history, and more of a recent phenomenon.
>> Anonymous
>>29071
Germany shouldn't have attempted Russia until Europe was secured. US was waffling until Pearl Harbor. Japan was almost successful in eliminating the US Pacific Fleet but should have waited. The US was not an offensive threat until provoked.
>> Anonymous
>>29072
Yeah, but England couldn't be bombed into submission, and there was no way to invade it. Stalin was rebuilding his army and would have attacked Germany sooner or later. Time was working for him. Trying in '41 was the best shot - or rather, least worst.

Japan waited all they could. They were on an oil embargo which was a critical threat to their economy (and army/navy) and were left with only two choices, loss of face (unthinkable for their government at the time) or war. Pearl Harbor was unavoidable as long as Roosevelt didn't change his policy towards Japan.
>> Anonymous
/trv/ - historical war strategies
>> Anonymous
Germany has a disproportionately large amount of scholars, artists, scientists, philosophers, musicians etc from the 16th century to present day.
>> Anonymous
"Germany: we're great because we're scholars and philosophers"
>> Anonymous
>>29084
um.. so what IS great in your mind? hoarding money? stupid anglo-american.
>> Anonymous
>>29086
>um.. so what IS great in your mind? hoarding money? stupid anglo-american.

I am in fact from Denmark, and "great" would be good food, attractive and nice girls, sun, and interesting landscape/museums/monuments/ruins. Germany is sorely lacking in those. And travelling is more about spending money IMO. So "poor" country are better.

I'm rather stupid, though, so you're not entirely wrong.
>> Anonymous
"Germany: we're great but stupid money-hoarding anglo-americans can't understand"
>> Anonymous
>>29086
We're good at that too. AND we're scholarly philosophers. Suck it, England.
>> Anonymous
>>29089
Read the first post. We're not talking about the place but about the culture.
>> Anonymous
>>29092
>Read the first post.
Well I did, and it reads: 'what makes germany so great?'

>We're not talking about the place
You lost me, there.
>> Anonymous
>>29097
Read on:
>what makes up their cultural character; their national soul
>> Anonymous
>what makes germany so great?

Nothing.
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anonymous hates everything
>> Anonymous
>anonymous hates everything

I haven't been to St Kitts and Nevis and Kosovo yet, so there may be countries that I DO NOT hate. Germany isn't one of those however. Stay out of it.
>> Anonymous
>>29098
>what makes up their cultural character;
I'd rather not elaborate on that, no polite words come to mind.

>their national soul
LOL Germans have a soul now?
>> Anonymous
>>29104
>Kosovo
>countries that I DO NOT hate
what?
>> Anonymous
>hey guys CHECK THIS OUT

http://rancid.outwar.com/page/2098
>> Anonymous
>>29112

I mean, I can't say that I hate Kosovo, because I haven't been there yet. I'm not expecting much, though.
>> Anonymous
"Germany: we're not quite as bad as Poland"
>> Anonymous
>>29106
Sorry about killing you grandpa ;_;
>> Anonymous
>>29074
Britian was no threat w/o American&Canadian backing. German navy was decent at putting fear of god into shipping lanes but was pressing their luck. Japan should have looked west to mainland. Could have used naval power in Indian Ocean to secure resources.

On another note, I stumbled onto a map (circa 1953) while looking through some of my grandfathers papers showing the natural resource distribution in the 40's. I want to say the US was truely the superpower of the time >50% oil, steel, tin, aluminum, coal, copper and food resources were all in america at the time. Unbelievable.
>> Anonymous
>>29166
Of course America did. America was never involved in any huge wars that needed to waste masses of resources. Not to mention that America is huge and was abundant with natural resources, untouched by the natives.
>> Anonymous
>>29180
>never involved in any huge wars that needed to waste masses of resources
someone needs to go back to high school and learn about this thing called the civil war
>> Anonymous
>>29123
>I mean, I can't say that Kosovo is a country, because it's a province of Serbia. I'm not expecting much, though.

fixed
>> Anonymous
>>29128

fuck i laughed at this
>> Anonymous
>>29243
Low standards?
>> Anonymous
>>29245
he watches carlos mencia
MEXICANS ARE MEXICAN LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
>> Anonymous
I want to visit germany, but I dont want to be around turks or muslims.

Where should I visit?
>> Anonymous
>>29296
go to turkey
>> Anonymous
>>29296
Rural areas. Sandniggers live in ugly concrete slums only.