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sup /trv/,

I'm currently debating whether I should learn to speak German, which I have a bit of experience in High School with, or take up Japanese courses. Eventually want to go abroad in one of the countries.

What are your experiences with either, or both? In return, a hot French girl.
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German. See: superiority of Europe vs. Japan. Unless of course you're a failsome, fat nerd, in which case your chances of losing your virginity will significantly increase (i.e. exist) in Japan. Those poor women are still living in an oppressive society, and thus believe that white men are gentler/more sensitive. LITTLE DO THEY KNOW!
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>>21411
SAUCE ON PIC!
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bump
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>>21422
actually the best place to get laid is Germany, as prostitution is legal and FKK clubs are abundant
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>>21429
prostitutes suck I would much rather have wlling lass then a poxy whore
>> Anonymous
japanese is 1000x easier.
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What is this shit? German chicks are way hotter
>> Anonymous
I have a better question: how the fuck do you get the motivation to learn a language? I want to speak/read German but I know it's gonna take years of (boring?) hard work to get good.
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MACHT ES SCHWULST!

Also krautchan.net
>> Anonymous
Reminds me of that german nightclub with that hot nazi chick asking for anal sex without knowing me...

Learn german and go to germany, you won't regret it.
>> Anonymous
Japan will never accept foreigners in their society, esp. if you look western. Go to Germany, it's about as expensive but if you're white, they easily accept you.
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>>21453
Because you're doing it the boring, difficult way.

1. Learn the basics
2. Throw yourself into a situation where you cannot speak English
3. ???
4. Profit!!

Visit the country/region where whatever language is spoken. Don't speak English to anyone. You'll eventually be fluent. Unless you go to a city like Paris or Helsinki where everyone wishes they were American and refuses to speak anything but English to foreigners, and most likely to the locals as well.
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pic says enough.
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German is quite hard to learn if you are not listening to it everyday and remember every fucked up phrase. The whole language consists of exceptions and ridiculous grammar rules. Still it's very beatiful to speak and there is much literature to read. This should you give an overview over the grammar http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/e/languages/german/the-awful-german-language.html
But don't take it too seriously ;) German-speaking foreigner is an hero! It took me about 1 year getting fluent but I was studying like hell.

Japanese on the other hand is really fucking very hard.
Their writting system is teh shit. The spoken language is easy enogh to learn though.

Why do't you consider learning Russian? ;) Uprising economy, beatiful girls and the best vodka are some nice points, eh? =)
>> Anonymous
It depends on various factors. Do you want to learn about a culture fairly similar to your own or quite different?

Do you want to blend in when visiting the country or do want to stand out?

Do you possible want to turn you language skills into a career? (hint: there's a fuckload of Germans that are fluent in English but relatively very few Japanese that are)
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>>21517

HOW DO I EJACULATE OUT OF PLANE
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>>21517
Yes, the writing system is bitch hard in Japanese. I consider myself fluent in speech but reading/writing is less than that of a Japanese person from middle school. (And if you don't know, that basically means they know basic kanji but that's pretty much it.)
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sauce is virginie guilhaume in a french gameshow called fort boyard
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>>21517
>Why do't you consider learning Russian? ;) Uprising economy, beatiful girls and the best vodka are some nice points, eh? =)

Indeed. These two are just AMAZING. Only in Russia!
>> Anonymous
German is a lot easier if you are native English speaker, many words are the same or very similar. Also putting yourself in a situation were you are immersed in a foreign language and forced to use it will drastically improve your ability to speak and understand it. Most of the kids I took German with in high school couldn't speak because they never did much speaking, but i was an exchange student in Germany for 3 weeks which effectively put me a year ahead of my peers in ability.

tl;dr: Immersion is the trick.
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>>21558
You do know that like 50% of all the pics you fap to from sites like Met Art, etc come from the former USSR, don't you. There are plenty of fine ass Russian chicks.
>> Anonymous
for the last time, eastern euro chicks aren't hot, they're just cheaper than competition
>> Anonymous
Thanks for all the input guys.

I am sorta wanting to turn it into a career, so I will go ahead and learn wapanese. BUT, I have a foundation in German and a few German native friends, so maybe later in life I'll go back and attempt to become trilingual until I give up.

Sauce is Virginie Guilhaume from French TV Fort Boyard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHyKseYiel8&feature=related
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>>21613

If you're going for a career, you should study German, faggot. You will not come out of college with enough language ability to be a functional employee in Japan. There's the English teaching thing, but that's pretty much it. Germany would be more welcoming to a foreign employee in the long run.
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>>21635
This one speaks the truth.
I have been to both Germany and Japan (over a month each location).
In Germany, I had a blast, had no grounding in German other than simple agree/disagree and where is the WC?
In Japan, I had about 6 months of spoken Japanese (Rosetta Stone) and was an English teacher for Nova (its dead don't look). As for Japan, you will basically never be accepted, the gov't isn't friendly towards foreigners unless your spending money (IE: The new fingerprint system plus hard ass visa system). The Japanese people seemed nice enough, but I knew a majority of them probably still didn't accept me.

tl;dr: Go for Germany, they would accept you as a foreigner 10 times faster than Japan
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>>21646Same Anon

PS: The English teacher root is highly HIGHLY unrecommended. Basically you live on the poverty line because most the eikawa (English Schools) treat their employees little better than slaves. Pay is low, insurance is ??? and rent is very high.
Hell I am just now 6 months later finally getting my paper work to claim 80% of my unpaid salary that was due to me when Nova decided to stop paying the teachers. And I've had to jump through rings to get towards it
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>>21646
Personally I do JET and I love it. As far as eikaiwa it's not quite up to par but I wouldn't judge the whole industry using NOVA as a yardstick. Everyone knew NOVA was the bottom of the ladder years before it went under.

>>21635You will not come out of college with enough language ability to be a functional employee in Japan.

This is true. But assuming you don't suck 4 years in college plus two or so living in Japan on a quality program like JET should be enough to either start translating or get some other job at a Japanese company.

I don't have any first hand experience with the German job market but I've visited and there are ton of people fluent in English there. I doubt simply being fluent in both languages will get you anywhere in Germany like it will in Japan.
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I started Japanese in the fall, and honestly, if you want to learn it, it's not bad. The writing system is easy enough to start. We're learning kanji slow - about 15 at a time, every few weeks (per chapter).

The main thing is that their sentence structure is so much different. Taking Spanish for ten years, we focused on the vocabulary and verb conjugation, pretty much. With Japanese, you still have the vocabulary, but there is a lot more new grammar (as in, different from English).

Do not be one of those idiots who tries to learn Japanese to watch anime, though. Do it for the right reasons - if you are majoring in something like engineering, Japanese, game development, or foreign relations, by all means, go ahead. If your major has nothing to do with Japanese (be brutally honest with yourself here), stay away from the language. At that point, Japanese is more of a summer hobby than a serious course.

I started with a set called "Japanese for Busy People" which was a decent introduction to the language. Check it out if you think you're serious about learning.
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>>21649
OP here,
I'm majoring in Journalism and English. I don't really intend to live in Japan, nor do I even watch anime.

I suppose the reason I would want to learn any language would be to go into the country and observe from a foreign standpoint... not really worried about being absorbed into the culture.

I figure more people are more interested in the goings-on in Japanese games, electronics, culture, etc. than German, so I figure I'll just keep German in the back of my mind for awhile.

Plus, Japanese looks good on a resume amirite?
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>>21656
any language looks good on a resume, also depends on what you are applying for.
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>>21656
given your majors, Japanese will definitely not look as good as German. Not only will German be far easier than Japanese as a native English speaker (English is a Germanic language, as opposed to French and Spanish which are Romance, etc... I spent 3 weeks in Germany, and even around people who spoke English I picked up a good amount of the language for the length of my stay), but since you're studying journalism and English, German will give you a leg-up both in opportunities to report/write abroad and to get a better understanding of some amazing literature.
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Who cares about "BEING ACCEPTED"

I live in manhattan, Plenty of foreigners, ACTUALLY all the people who LIVE here are foreigners.

I see japanese, korean, chinese, indian, Everyone is chill here.

What the fuck are you talking about being accepted in japan?

They are just people, young, old, etc

You should not care about the older people, Old japanese people are like dead people

Are you talking about HANING WITH THE TEENS? who are 17=24, Of course they wont accept you.

They hang with the IN CROWD

dumbasses
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>>21697
Does Germany have a decent electronics industry? I always pinned Japan to be hugely monopolized when it came to general electronics and dorky things.
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>>21725
Germany has the largest economy of the EU, it must be exporting something people want...can't all be cars...
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>>21727
Sure, you can buy everything here as well.
There are plenty big electronics shops like MediaMarkt, Saturn and so on. The price is actually high compared to the USA due the low USD but compared to Japan the price isn't that high. I've been to Tokio and some electronics are just 10eu cheaper.
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My suggestion would be to do research on the cultures and attitudes of people in those countries and see if they fit your way of thinking.

I lived in Japan for a year and really enjoyed my time there. Other's hated the people, the way a person has to be self controlled when in crowds, the crowds themselves etc.

Also be aware that no matter where you're living, if you want to eat affordably you'll need to eat the local food. Decide which you can handle better. Stereotypically Japanese food is fish and sea-urchin innards and German food is sour kraut and crazy sausages. I love fish, and tend to avoid the urchin innards when the go around in at the kaiten-zushi, but other people I knew ate McDonald's for their full stay, wanted to go home.
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>>21739
>German food is sour kraut and crazy sausages.

bullshit, we that maybe once a month. Typical cheap food are noodles, doing something with potatoes or rice. And simple pan-fried meat.
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>>21739

I don't think I've eaten either sour kraut or sausages in the last 3 months. Enjoy your culinary prejudices.
>> Anonymous
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PzYdDHu52DE


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