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Teaching english overseas Anonymous
Has anyone on /trv/ had any experience with teaching english overseas. Basically I wanna get away from austfalia for 6months or a year or so, have no real preference where I go though I think most of these jobs are in asia and some in south america, south america doesnt really appeal to me.

Ive noticed a few courses advertised lately with an overseas job gaurentee at the end, havent really looked into much as yet though for the place I was looking at the job gaurentee only applies if you apply for at least 10 jobs in 3 different countries, one of those countries must be china. Didnt manage to find any details on the cost of the course or what I should expect to get paid, though Im guessing the pay would vary greatly depending on the country.

So yeah just looking for info form anons who have done this, how many days a week were you working, how did the locals accept you, was the pay high enough for a decent standard of living.

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>> Anonymous
>>4938
I would love to work in evil north korea
>> Anonymous
>>4945
you'd be pretty miserable living in north korean conditions, especially coming from the western first world.. usa/europe.
>> Anonymous
>>4829
A native speaker speaks better English than some guy who worked extra hard to learn English as an adult. Also, not being able to speak the local language well (or just refusing to speak it in front of the students) could actually be a plus. When talking to the teacher in the local language is not an option, they would have to work harder on their English.
>> Anonymous
>>4961
>A native speaker speaks better English than some guy who worked extra hard to learn English as an adult.
No. I'm sure I speak better English than you.
>> Anonymous
>>4966
I'm an ESL myself.
>> Anonymous
I've been wondering if I could find a short job somewhere (in the third world?) teaching English. It would be more of a travel experience than work experience for me.

I'm a Finnish guy who used to live in the US as a 3-4-year-old. I acquired the English language naturally without any classes, so I'm basically bilingual.

In addition, I also speak German, Swedish, some Japanese and Latin as foreign languages but they're in no way comparable to my English or Finnish.
>> Anonymous
>>4961
>A native speaker speaks better English than some guy who worked extra hard to learn English as an adult.

Oh wow. No.
>> Anonymous
I also intend on teaching English as a foreign language when I finish college and uni, so I've been looking up information.
Bear in mind I'm in England, so it may be different for whatever country you're from.

There are some projects that require no qualifications, but they're becoming rare. You need to take a TEFL course, which will give you the suitable qualification to be considered for employment. Some places offer the course with automatic work placement after, such as:
www.i-to-i.com (a British site)
The costs can be in the hundreds, but are really very good for any CV involving education.
Generally, the contract will be a year long, and if both you and your employer are happy, it can be extended.
To make sure you'll enjoy living in an entirely different culture, try to find a TEFL course that offers experience out of the country, or do some volunteer work. It'll give you an idea of what to expect. Don't worry too much about learning the language - while polite to know a few phrases before you arrive, many employers will offer the opportunity for language classes.
Pay rates vary, obviously, but from what I've seen range from 200 - 400 a week (Sterling) on average.
A good site for employment possibilities with price guides for different countries is here:
http://www.tefl.com/
There's literally no end to the possible countries you could work in. Keep in mind that South America generally requires a very good knowledge of Spanish, compared to the majority of other places which don't need another language. But you could work literally anywhere in the world where there are people wanting to learn English.
>> Anonymous
Teaching English as a teacher? Avoid Singapore and Malaysia like disease.
>> Anonymous
>>5243
yeah, because an accent determines your level of comprehension of a language, right?
>> Anonymous
third world countryfag here

Foreign English teachers here tend to be the epitome of failure, you know, the kind of person whose only asset is what his first language is.

But of course, there was the occasional global-traveller types who tended to be cool.
>> Anonymous
>>5302
The main reason many countries want native English speakers (Japan and China especially) is to practice pronunciation.
>> Anonymous
>>5307
and how is that the point?

I meant, if a foreignfag can recite Hamlet, but still has an accent, that doesn't mean his/her English is bad. Our Eastern block math teachers were a perfect example of this, their English was grammatically perfect, yet ze russian accent...
>> Anonymous
>>5298
wut why?
>> Anonymous
>>5325
Mostly business reasons. They figure that any potential American (or any native English speaker I suppose) will be a little offset by someone with a thick chinese accent, as that particular accent is not as respected/accepted as, say, a Frenchfag accent. They might be right.
>> Anonymous
>>5325
Consider Japanese Engrish. The reason the language gets scrambled is because teachers who teach a language they learned as a second language pass on issues with pronunciation and intonation (and to a lesser extent, an incomplete grasp of things like irregulars and idioms) and this magnifies with every non-native teacher. Yes, they can recite Hamlet because the written text is immutable, but if their spoken language teacher learned English from someone who learned English from someone who learned English from someone else they can be almost incomprehensible to native speaker. I've lost track of what you faggots are arguing about, but this is why many countries want native speakers.

...And yeah, you can speak flawless English even if it's your second language if you put in hard work, but not if you're learning from people whose pronunciation is substandard. It depends where you learn.
>> Anonymous
>>5333
way to not get the point

it wasn't about people who were teaching the language to others.
>> Anonymous
I think it is a good idea for you to leave.
If you don't love Australia - leave it. Fucking Fag...

But if you are going to go may I recommend China. Been there twice and really enjoyed my time. The southern part (Guangzhou/Shenzhen) are really nice areas in terms of weather as opposed to the horrible winters up north.

But not impressed with ragging on the mother land (convict town)
>> Anonymous
>>5376
You will be informed when anyone is interested in your opinion. Sit quietly until then. Nationalism is fucking stupid.
>> Anonymous
You could try NOVA in Japan. Though there has been some controversy about them.
http://www.nova.ne.jp/information/from-trustee-en.html
>> Anonymous
>>5462

scratch that the company collapsed haha.
>> Anonymous
>>5376
I didn't know bogans owned computers... or are you using two cups and a really long piece of string?
>> Anonymous
FLAME WWWAARRRR
>> Anonymous
i'm thinking about doing this too. I heard tha some places in South Korea will give you free living in return for a year contract?

japan also sounds interesting, but i have heard that it is pretty demanding over there
>> Anonymous
>>5918
A lot of places will provide free accommodation, if you find the right ones.
>> Anonymous
>>5471
Good lord, I'm not even Australian and I think it's a bad idea to rag on one's native country. Have you no moral fiber? Have you no sense of history or pride? Where is your spine, boy?