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As /r/'d on /b/.

http://www.mininova.org/tor/1151416

A Perfect Fake is a 60-minute film that looks at the persistence of this myth in the modern world. The film takes us into the world of men who have chosen to reject the reality of human sexual companionship in order to pursue emotional and physical fulfillment with a variety of erotic surrogates and simulations. The film looks at the emerging market for "hyper-realistic" simulations of real women, through the lens of the emerging new world of computer-generated virtual pornography and erotica. The film also takes the viewer into the strange and disturbing world of men who have chosen to share their lives with life-size female "love dolls." These dolls are companions, confidants and sexual partners, and to the men who own and love them, each "girl" is as unique as a snowflake.
>> formerly-anon !J4t8ucXg/s
if i think of it as the human population auto-regulating itself, i feel a little less disgusted.
>> Anonymous
These aren't guys we want procreating, anyway.

As the saying goes, "and nothing of value was lost".
>> Anonymous
I've watched this before about years ago. It was pretty sad tbh.
>> Anonymous
>>219474
u r sad for being here.
>> Anonymous
>>219467
This is of interest to me.
>> Anonymous
lulz you can watch this on veoh
>> Anonymous
>>219468
>>219469

In denial.
>> Anonymous
welcome to 500 years ago when this first came out
>> Anonymous
>>219478
link us then
>> Anonymous
I feel SO MUCH BETTER about my life
>> Anonymous
>>219520

Because you find out you're not the only one, amirite?
>> Anonymous
I've been thinking of buying a doll like these ones. It's cheaper than prostitutes in the long run anyways. Women are too difficult for me.
>> Anonymous
>>219535
some advice:
1. I don't know where you live, but if it is in a prostitute legal area, find some affordable, well taken care of, girls. Nevada is great for this if you are in the US, the girls in most places are kept safe and do business very well.

2. Don't give up on real women relationships, even if you keep failing miserably, if by chance you get a good realtionship out of it... well that may be worth it at some point in your life, if down the road you want a family.

>> Anonymous
>>219544
My hands disagree
>> Anonymous
This is of interest to me. I love documentaries on fucked subjects.
>> Anonymous
>>219561
I fuckin' lol'd!
>> Anonymous
My experience with buying sex is like this: high class hookers are great. Best sex you can have, I pop off 4 or five times in two hours, and eachother those is equal to 20 hand induced orgasms. Nice to be able to choose whatever type of girl you want too.
In a way I am ashamed of buying sex, but... it's so goddamn good. And I really have interest in women other than sex (or being friends. Just don't have an desire for sharing my life with someone else)
I would be bored of one of these dolls pretty quick... But interesting doc none-the-less.
>> Anonymous
I did that several times after having been persuaded to do so. Now, all these years later I regretted doing so. The money spent on these lady could have been better use for investing or just plain savings. 3 days of work gone in an instance.
>> Anonymous
>>219478
>>219487

No Download version:
Part 1: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v677307AppTTkj4
Part 2: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v677307AppTTkj4
>> Anonymous
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I'm sorry to say I didn't enjoy this documentary...
I know they've really tried to say something important about the virtualization of human relations etc., but they ended up just splattering a lot of paranoid, pseudo-psychological bullcrap all over the place.
Oh, and showing a lot of boobs.

The only documentary on fake girlfriends you ever need to watch is BBC's "Guys and Dolls":
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3851219/Guys_and_Sex_dolls_Documentary
or
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3710987618964917848
It explains the mentality of a person who has stopped living for others and has started to exist in a certain fantasy very well.
It's more engaging and pretty sad at times.

This documentary just looks too much like an indifferent report about all sorts of weirdo losers.
And showing Wonder Festival as some sort of japanese porn convention was kinda cheap, too.
>> Anonymous
lol davecat
>> Anonymous
Why would anyone at 4chan find this informative? They're probably already on the video.
>> Anonymous
I liked both documentaries, fairly interesting and pretty creepy. The guy in the OP's picture makes some very nice dolls, but as far as them being people, its a bit too far.

Best character in the documentary is the repair man. "Aaaagh I'm running out of vaginas" should be a meme.
>> Anonymous
so ronery ;_;
>> Doppelgänger !.97.to9elc
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>>219467
Why hey there!
>> Anonymous
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This sounds so.. familiar...
>> Anonymous
this is awesome thanks anonymous, you fucking delivers!
>> Anonymous
>>219597

I so completely agree with you.

This started out alright but then it just degraded to boobs, implying all these people are fucked up in the head, instead of outright saying it I mean, and saying that the WonderFest is _just_ an erotic doll convention...
>> Anonymous
>>219597
yeah its more like, look this weird shit
>> Anonymous
>>219467
I see no problem with it. In fact, I think that these men are in fact embracing their reality - None of them could ever land a real woman because they're too socially inept or physically unappealing, not to mention their bizzare hobbies, of course...
>> Anonymous
>>219621
I lol'd
>> Anonymous
>>219467
So is OP's picture from Perfect Fake? Is it a Japanese film or not?
>> Anonymous
i loved guys and dolls, cant wait to watch this

thanks OP!
>> Anonymous
>>219649
where can I order this doll plox?
>> Anonymous
>>219597
I like the airplane guy, he's cool.
>> Anonymous
>>219544
Thanks for advice, I respect writing a decent reply. I reside in a small country whose people have a very inflated estimate of self-worth. As far as I know, prostitution is legal here, but I have yet to meet a prostitute.

Besides having deep, long and essentially fruitless conversations with women I've tried offering them money for sex. How much do you think would be a reasonable price to pay for ridding oneself of his virginity? Apparently 500 € will not suffice. I have good manners and still I'm very able to express my lust for women. My looks are at least average. I have no trouble socializing with people and appearing to have a very pleasant character and to top all that I'm not even God damn picky.

Of course I want a family. I'm not the one giving up on women: as implausible as it may seem, they are uninterested in me.
>> Anonymous
>>219855
You should post the story of your life on /b/ for the lulz. Really. And the best thing is... someone over there will have it at least twice as worse as you have. That will make you feel better in no time.
>> Anonymous
>>219858
I don't have it bad at all, someone is bound to have it much worse. Since all the sex is missing from the story, I reckon that that there is nothing truly interesting about what has happened to me. What I cannot fully understand is why no-one has ever copulated with me.

There was a time I was in my bed with two slightly drunk women. I fondled and kissed their breasts, suckled on the nipples. One of the ladies praised my way of caressing the nipples; the only praise I can remember having genuinely cared about recieving so far. Then, they wanted to stop, and soon I had to take them home. There was no reason for this that I could discern.
Women are too difficult for me; I cannot appreciate their illogical behaviour.
>> Anonymous
>>219855
As I said in my post, prostitution has it's merits for an outlet of lust. All I can say about your troubles with finding a relationship, is that you aren't alone--and yet how many women have you heard say they can't find anyone? It isn't a unique problem for sure.
Several of my friends are married, several have still never had a serious relationship. They are all nerds (we all went to tech school together), but I believe the main difference is how much they get out and do things/express themselves. If you look like you are enjoying life and you enjoy yourself, then others will want to share that.
>>219858
No matter how bad it is, this is true. One only has to visit /b/ to realize this...
>> Anonymous
>>219867
Well, I've never heard with my own ears any woman saying that they can't get anyone. If that happens, I'll walk up to her and tell her "Here I am".
>> Anonymous
>>219866

Sex is a lot less complicated to get than some people make it.

The trick is how far you're willing to lower your "standards" to get it. The less you're willing to settle for, the easier it is to find. If all you're looking for is a virgin-killing fuck and not a relationship, and you don't have a problem socializing, it really is just a matter of skeezing around until you get it.
>> Anonymous
Well what about the mystery method and all of those other "tactical" social training programs and books? I've heard some people had success with these programs. Do you think that they are actually effective?
>> Anonymous
>>219890
I'm not asking you to _forget about them.
>> Anonymous
>>219890
They're effective.. for some people.
>> Anonymous
I saw all of 4chan in this movie
>> Anonymous
>>219866
You have no idea how deep the depths of womanly "illogic" is until you've been married for a few years. After a while you learn to work with it... kinda.
>> †Invisible Sky Magician† Religion: Used by the smart on the stupid !!I9XpXfP4okU
Ahh, a thread about the "fairer" sex.

Here's my contribution: Women are stupid.
>> Anonymous
Y'know what I found most disturbing about this video was some of the utter bullshit and retarded stupidity being spouted by CG 'artists' and game devs.

To even hint that we're at the cusp of being able to tell the difference between what we can tell is 'real' and not real is patently retarded. We're DECADE*S* away from even the baby steps of that possibility. It's like saying that the Wright Brothers were on the verge of interstellar travel.

I'm bothered (and yet not all that surprised) that the people working in the industry are so woefully out of touch with reality that I can only expect more of the same plastic shit for the next 10 years.
>> Anonymous
>>219597
>>219655

You two are totally projecting.

First, they ARE fucked in the heads (but understandably so considering the cultural setting). They're disconnected from 'normal' human interactions by internalizing their miopic view of relationships where they don't have to take the basic risk of actual relationships. They're also all suffering from self esteem issues and the dolls are simply enabling them as they fall deeper and deeper into a pit of disconnect from the rest of humanity.

The documentary makes absolutely NO judgements, and does in fact offer a completely unbiased presentation of the phenomenon. The fact that you both saw it as a negative representation, is merely an indicator of your own subconcious 'guilt' and 'shame' about having similar thoughts/outlooks on the subject. As for the pseudo-psychology and paranoia, you'll have to provide an example, as there was nothing of the sort. There are some rather uneducated opinions by the doll lovers, as well as some rather retarded commentary by CG artists and game developers (not related to the dolls), but there's nothing being presented by the documentary itself that isn't accurate (and entirely left to the viewer's conclusions).

(Continued)
>> Anonymous
>>219991

(Continued)

You're both simply projecting, as well as trying to slam it by going on about boobs. Are you puritans or something? Yes, there were virtual breasts being shown. Guess what, it's a big element in hentai. Do you really think they could do a documentary about the virtualization of female companions (specifically focused around Japan) and not show the scope of some of it? They also showed tentacles, dildos, and removeable 'sleaves'. Why aren't you riling about those? It's pretty clear neither of you have any valid argument against it so are grasping at anything to try to diminish it's validity.

>> Anonymous
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>>219649
This is the beginning of my nudie shot. No peeking!
>> Anonymous
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>>219993
Oh god, there's a girl doll and boy doll. Do they come as a set? *fap*

This guy who makes the dolls pictured has some brutally honest commentary about the doll craze in Japan.
>> †Invisible Sky Magician† Religion: Used by the smart on the stupid !!I9XpXfP4okU
>>219991
>>219992

Did you just finish your Japanese studies/psychology degree?

We'll consider your opinions as soon as you stop flipping burgers.
>> Anonymous
>>219996
Jesus Christ, here you go again with a two-line response to a conversation you aren't even apart of, trying to attack the character of someone rather than offer a rebuttal.

Did you even watch the documentary? Had you even been following this thread? No, of course not, you are just fucking trolling.

I could tolerate you in /n/ because tripfags tend to stay within one place. But now you are everywhere, adding your useless commentary to threads that really amount to nothing more than "LOL NO U". It fucks up the flow of discussions, it wastes space, and most of all I am just sick and fucking tired of knowing your fat ass is trolling every goddamn place you can find. I don't know why you have such a desperate need to communicate, to add your "ME TOO" to every conversation that you are otherwise left out of. Do you talk to people, socially? Or do you just listen, never being included, and then run home, turn on your mom's PC, and start making up for all the lost dialogue with real people by posting innane shit here?
>> Anonymous
>>219996

Considering the stupidity you've displayed in>>219426, it's pretty clear who the burger flipper is here. I'd like you to meet the kettle.

Hit the nail a little too close to the head did I?
>> Anonymous
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>>219993
Don't forget Sailor Moon!
>> Anonymous
>>220001

What's an abbo?
>> Anonymous
>>220007
An offensive slang term for Indigenous Australians (variant of abo, as derived from Aborigine).
>> Anonymous
>>220007
An Aborigine, the native peoples of Australia where ISM, his mom, and his gramps live. The closest thing I could relate them to socially is African Americans or British Muslims in terms of how they behave themselves publically.
>> Anonymous
>>219467
OP, thanks for sharing this documentary. It is freaky and kinda cool. Good sir, you are welcome here!
>> Anonymous
>>220009
>>220012

Heh, almost like 5 seconds after I hit Submit, I thought, "it probably means aborigine".

>>220001

>Or do you just listen, never being included, and then run home, turn on your mom's PC, and start making up for all the lost dialogue with real people by posting innane shit here?

I think you called it.
>> †Invisible Sky Magician† Religion: Used by the smart on the stupid !!I9XpXfP4okU
>>220001
>Jesus Christ,
GTFO christfag.

>here you go again with a two-line response to a conversation you aren't even apart of, trying to attack the character of someone rather than offer a rebuttal.
My rebuttal is your wannabe psychology PHD analysis is generic tripe.

lol @ "projecting".

>Did you even watch the documentary?
Yes.

>Had you even been following this thread?
This thread is stationary and will always remain in /t/. I don't need to follow it, it'll be here when I need it.

>No, of course not, you are just fucking trolling.
Oh that was a rhetorical question. Why didn't you fucking tell me???

>I could tolerate you in /n/ because tripfags tend to stay within one place. But now you are everywhere, adding your useless commentary to threads that really amount to nothing more than "LOL NO U". It fucks up the flow of discussions, it wastes space, and most of all I am just sick and fucking tired of knowing your fat ass is trolling every goddamn place you can find. I don't know why you have such a desperate need to communicate, to add your "ME TOO" to every conversation that you are otherwise left out of. Do you talk to people, socially? Or do you just listen, never being included, and then run home, turn on your mom's PC, and start making up for all the lost dialogue with real people by posting innane shit here?

I'm not fat.

>I hope some abbos beat you within an inch of your life then rape you and your abusive grandfather to death, you fucking fat coward.

I'm not fat.

I fucked your mom by the way.
>> Interesting.. Core !JD2r9bRTlg
>>219467
>>219597

Thanks for the Documentary's!

Interesting videos.. DaveCat, kinda freaked me out though..

I was surprised to see the emotional attachment some of those people had to the dolls. Where I could see them using them as a useful visual tool, that served a purpose well; lets admit a really useful purpose! I couldn't believe that they had grown.. to love them?

Caring for them would of been okay, because its like any other valuable useful tool you have, you take care of it..

Again was surprised and enjoyed the videos.
>> Anonymous
actually i find the ball joint dolls collectors are pretty fine. BJD is classier den barbie dolls and on par with mecha figurines.
but who fap at mecha figurines?
(on the other hand, it's a waste to fap @ BJD too)

(let's just stick to resin or PVC figurine)
>> Anonymous
life-like texture ;_;
>> Anonymous
you guys think this is fucked, theres another documentry about women who carry around baby dolls, and pretend its there own babys.
>> Anonymous
>>220302
put that on /r/ plox
>> Core !JD2r9bRTlg
>>220302

Wow... That's definitely a step beyond the cliff edge.
>> †Invisible Sky Magician† Fuck God. Yeah. !!I9XpXfP4okU
>>220302
>you guys think this is fucked, theres another documentry about women who carry around baby dolls, and pretend its there own babys.

Sounds like the type of character you would use in certain types of hollywood movies.

You know, the depressed mother who can\'t get over the fact that her baby died, so she uses a doll substitute.
>> Anonymous
>>220366

Looks like some weeaboo faggot is trying add intelligent commentary. Fuck off ISM, and go cry all the way back to Japan you expat fucker.
>> †Invisible Sky Magician† Fuck God. Yeah. !!I9XpXfP4okU
>>220378
>Looks like some weeaboo faggot is trying add intelligent commentary. Fuck off ISM, and go cry all the way back to Japan you expat fucker.

Joke\'s on you motherfucker.

I\'ll cry all the way to Japan and all the way IN Japan!
>> Anonymous
>>220382
Haha, you got banned and need to use a shitty proxy.
>> Anonymous
Does anyone know where loli dolls can be purchased?
>> Anonymous
>>220419

japan.
>> Anonymous
I've never bought a doll before but i think i might, just to see what all the fuss is about..

there was a great thread with dolls and vagoo the other day in /r/ too bad i didn't save any, now i wish i did. i was surprised how turned on i was by looking at these doll with their legs spread open and delicate pink parts staring at me full with pride, gosh i hope i don't turn out like those losers in the documentary, maybe i should get help but somehow i can't shake this massive sense of curiosity.
>> Anonymous
>>220450
Once you go doll you never go back.
>> Anonymous
>>220542
once you have dolls, you need no other holes
>> Anonymous
>>219939
Truth.

Seriously, damn it all, truth.
>> Anonymous
I Fuck them all!!

You go Japanese executive guy
>> Anonymous
>>219991

lol, insufferable undergraduates
>> Anonymous
guys, it's not that hard to fall into some pussy. If you don't look like a total fucking slob, you're already ok. The girl you get might not be all that hot, but it's better than nothing, and you'll find a lot more you want than sex anyway, seriously.

if you've got half decent social skills you're fine. you'll fall into some pussy somehow, somewhere. I promise you. if you don't then call me up and i'll ram you hard, no homo
>> Anonymous
>>220706

Theres always a girl for everybody.
>> Anonymous
its a great film but kind of leaves you with the thought that most of these ideas will not become common place. well to say commonly accepted. also highly recomend lars and the real girl.
>> Anonymous
>>220721

I call bullshit.
>> Anonymous
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>>220721

Agreed!!
>> Anonymous
>>220889

Negative.

Even you with your ugly looks and low self esteem can still find a girl, just try harder buddy, you'll get some pussy.
>> Anonymous
Its not like you can legally pay for a loli prostitute anywhere in the world. The alternative would be a loli-lovedoll.

Anyways fapping is cheaper.
>> Anonymous
I don't want "fake" men and women to look like the real ones, real people are ugly.
This can be seen with western artists, they try to make cg women appear like the typical western idea of a sexy women and thats what "fake" fetishist don't want because we want more then real people.
>> Anonymous
yeah the best sex I ever had I had with a scorpion
>> Anonymous
Teachers always told us to use our imagination. Nothing wrong to flapping at an image or even a doll.
>> Anonymous
>>221347
>flapping
lolwut?
>> Anonymous
I love how everyone in this movie uses the same base generalizations of the youth of today, of videogames, and of nerds.

1: we'll have made perfect AI and perfect-looking CG replicas that will cross and rape the "uncanny valley"

2: youth playing videogames cannot distinguish between the game and reality, and are "hypnotized"

3: all "nerds" are introverted perverts who's only desire is to play the next game and to secretly fantasize about molesting women


Add this to the fact that their "proof" comes from such deep sagas as Bloodrayne and the Dead or Alive series...jesus christ people, who's really the sick and sad one here? At least the poor bastards who own these dolls keep to themselves and don't force their way of living on others, or make videos "proving" the "others" in society are "wrong".
>> Anonymous
I also love how they use a woman with short hair and a degree in "men are pigs" to describe how its all men turning women into sexual objects that they will "control" in real life AND in the realms of CG.

Wow this video is a waste of my time. Someone should have just deleted this and uploaded the doll sex video with that scat scene from like a year ago.
>> wear can i get 1 of this doll's? peter
i know realdoll.com
but thos are 3 too 8 grand a pop!
thos blow up doll's at the sex shop are 100 and up and i laff my ass off jest seeing the box lol.
the 1's in this video are thay sold outside japan and like 500 us or lass?
iam still a a virgen at 30
hoker's are bad news wear i live and
frankley if i lower my standirds aney more ill be in jail!
ive seen alot of girl's get shit fased
have sex with some guy than A iam pregnent pay up
or B he raped me!
wear i live you have women with a bibel between thar lag's
or drog using alkhalick hore's!
iam the guy women dont want onlass thar too dronk to see! than sober cant look at me cose thay hit on me dronk!
so is it so rong to ask wear can i get a
cheep sex doll that's not a blow up toy?
place Email me if thas something on like ebay or some 1 knows a wabsite?
peter10@ns.sympatico.ca
my standids are this low!
over 20 onder 80 and sober and not insane!
thas all the standires i have!
wear i live 14 is ligel but iam 30 so 20 is as yang as i go!
iam not looking to get mared jest want a blowjob!
so iam notabove fuking a toy if it feels like a bj.
ive seen realdoll head's for 1500 us wich i thnak is nut's!
if aney 1 knows wear i can get 1 of thous doll's email me ok?
peter10@ns.sympatico.ca
thnaks for evrey 1's time.
i know this mite have bin hard too read!
i have a problem with wrighting it's geting worce as i get older!