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Zelda Retrospective Anonymous
http://www.mininova.org/tor/492949

Some videos about the history of the Zelda series, taken from gametrailers.com. Their site is a bit annoying to navigate, so I thought I'd just torrent them.

in before 8.8
>> Anonymous
great series of documentaries about zelda, don't miss it, especially the last 6th part, about the chronology
>> z-reserve
This really puts one in the perspective of what most zelda fans could be awaiting of the newest game... or not.
>> Anonymous
what the fuck is 8.8
>> toshiaki
>>136003
I think 8.8 refers to the gamespot score for Twilight Princess. It inspires a lot of nerd rage.
>> Anonymous
youtube it
>> Anonymous
>>136003
/v/ faggotry, ignore it.
>> Anonymous
Wow, this was extremely enjoyable, especially the timeline theory. It's all much more clear now.
>> Anonymous
>>136005KILL JEFF GERSTMAN!
>> Anonymous
D: @ .WMV
>> Anonymous
feel like total ninfanboy but this was nice. the timeline theory made me laugh though, seemed even wickier then before. (the nightmare's brief ganon form in LA, people moving north before LoZ lol.) I belive Miyamoto later rejected Aonuma's statement however. oh well
>> Anonymous
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My conection is shit today, what is this Zelda timeline teory? Sounds interesting.
>> Anonymous
talking about the whole time of zelda, what game take place first, then next, saying what oder they think they're in, little stories, ect.
>> pixel hotness !OI2RiO/0Ro
>>135995
so i heard this was a z-reserve thread
HALLO Z-RESERVE
>> Anonymous
It spoilers stuff for you [spoiler]like Tetra is really Zelda in Windwaker[/spoiler] but episode six is cream on the cake. And it's true, it's all fanboy speculation, but you have to say that's the closest thing to explaining the timeline that I've ever heard. I just assumed that each Link was a different generation along with Zelda every couple 100 years. Guess this just blows it out of the wanter completely. *Shrugs*
>> Anonymous
Its all good stuff... that is if you are a Zelda fanboy, I am so I liked it.
>> Anonymous
>>136285

I'm not a fanboy and I enjoyed it. :o
>> Anonymous
>>136329
Me too.

Any other videos of such kind, about other series, etc, as well?
>> Anonymous
Oh, thank you OP. These videos kick ass!!
>> Anonymous
Is Pikminlink in it?
>> Anonymous
BTW, this is the best Zelda game there is.

Seriously, the original, not the dx version.
>> Anonymous
>>136274
Their timeline speculation is fucked up, tho'. They place Minish Cap in first, ignoring Four Sword Adventure which happens right after Minish Cap and where Ganon recieves the trident he'll be using in LttP and the other games where he appears solely in beast form. And that's just an example of things that are wrong in it.
The timeline split is a possibility and that's the first idea that springs to mind by looking at the ending of OoT, but it can still all work without it.
... Ya, this ain't /v/, 'K.
>> Anonymous
>>136474
If you're talking about Link's Awakening, I agree. Best Zelda ever, and best music too.
>> Anonymous
Source of the picture..

GBC games?
>> Anonymous
>>136512
GBC verson of the GB game.
>> Anonymous
Link's awakening. I think it's called.
When he ends up at that island.
>> Anonymous
>>136512
>>136514
How was it made?
>> Anonymous
>>136539
heard of emulators and photoshop?
>> Anonymous
Link's Awakening DX, the color upgrade of the original, besides the obvious color difference, it inlcuded a photo thing that worked with the GB printer and a new dungeon. I loved this game.
>> Anonymous
>>136542
One frame at a time?
>> Bridget !Tz0ULG.7to
does anyone have one of these except for Link to the Past?
>> Bridget !Tz0ULG.7to
>>135938
....that was awesome.

Also LOL ZELDA TIMELINE
>> Anonymous
>>136711
How else? That's how the internet works: a very small number does all the tedious work for the lazy masses to enjoy.

Also, http://vgmaps.com/
>> Anonymous
Protip: thier timeline is full of shit. They put LoZ BEFORE LttP when LttP says its a prequel to LoZ, they also put LA before LttP when LA happens directly after LttP. Here's a good timeline

first lets go with the games that have hard places in the timeline no matter what (no speculation is needed since there is already proof of thier spots, either in interveiws or in the games)
Old timeline
TMC-FS-OoT-TP-TWW-ALttP-LA-LoZ-AoL
TMC is the oldest because Aonuma said FS is the oldest, and TMC is obviously the start of the FS/Vaati events, FS is after it because aonuma stated it was the oldest during that interveiw (TMC wasn't out yet, but its obvious it should be placed before FS), OoT comes next because it was the first in the series timeline wise before FS came out, TP has already been stated to be a few decades or so after OoT, TWW says it is Hundreds of years after OoT so it obviously is after TP as well and Aonuma said its hundreds of years afterward in an interveiw as well, LttP comes next because it is before LoZ and AoL (says so itself) and it has nothing putting it before the events of WW, LA comes next because it is the same Link from LttP going on a journey after the events from LttP, LoZ comes next because its stated in LttP that LttP comes before this one and at the end of this zelda Ganon is killed, not sealed away, AoL comes next and uses the same Link from LoZ, Ganon's followers want to revive Ganon by using Link as a sacrifice (since he is the one that killed ganon) its all in the manual.
New Timeline
TMC-FS-MM
TMC and FS come first because of Aonuma's statement, MM comes next because of the timeline split, Link leaves Hyrule to get Navi back going to Termina (Nintendo has stated Navi was what he was looking for). There haven't been any storylines that point to a story in the same timeline as MM so far.
>> Anonymous
>>136761
now the placement of FSA, and the Oracles games is mostly speculation as there isnt really anything definite. Best place for FSA is before ALttP and after TWW for me, since Ganon gets the trident he had in aLttP in FSA, and didn't have one in TWW. Oracles could go before ALttP, after LA or after AoL. I like after AoL because it is said Ganon is dead in AoL and he stays dead at the end of it, Oracles starts with Ganon being dead and getting revived as you go (albeit a souless body). Oracles also has the triforce unified, which happens in TWW but its put in the sacred realm when that happens, in aLttP Link gains the triforce as a whole, makes his wish and likely leaves it there, LA never said he took it with him, and if he did I doubt he would have had so much trouble with that dream island. After AoL the Royal family of Hyrule has the triforce in thier castle, and in Oracles its there still.

Oracles placement is only defined for sure in worlds where the triforce is whole (post TWW) and Ganon has died for sure (not sealed) so LoZ/AoL and possibly aLttP (translation issues on that one, but Ganon is likely dead, but its also possible Link wished for Ganon to be revived and live a life where he never heard of the triforce, or was a normal man)

So its easy to fit it anywhere after TWW, but AoL seems to be the best since the royal family has the triforce. Making my overall continuety

Pre:TMC-TMC-FS-OoT-TP-TWW-TPH-FSA-ALttP-LA--LoZ-AoL-Oracles
>> Anonymous
>>136761
>>136762
and for the hell of it, each instance of a different Link, Zelda and Ganon

Links
1.LoZ and AoL Link (Nintendo and the manual of AoL have said so.)

2.ALttP and LA Link (The LA manual says so.)

3.OoT and MM Link (It says so in MM.)

4.OoA and OoS (No explanation needed.)

5.FS

>> Anonymous
>>135938
I think it was a nice theory ,
I don't understand why the hell all of you get mad, is clealry stated at the begging of the video that it's not absolute and I could be wrong, each one can have a different theory, you don't have to start talking shit about what others think
>> Anonymous
>>136795
#1 reason to hate the gametrailors timeline = they totally fuck up Canon placement said by Nintendo.

when trying to categorize something in chronological order, its best to at LEAST use the Canon thats already stated as a guideline before going into speculation.

Canon statements are this
TMC is before FS, FS is before OoT, OoT is before MM and TP, TP and MM are directs sequel of OoT, TWW is after OoT and TP, LttP is before LoZ, LA is a direct sequel of LttP, AoL is a direct sequel to LoZ, and there is a split timeline


So using this you can tell there is a timeline in TMC -> FS -> OoT -> MM -> TP -> TWW
and LttP -> LA -> LoZ -> AoL

split timeline means TP and TWW exist on a seperate timeline from MM so you end up with
TMC -> FS -> OoT -> MM for one timeline (often called 'new timeline' or 'child timeline'

>> Anonymous
>>136805
using speculation about the situations in each game with no definite place (oracles/FSA) you can pick thier places

FSA features a fully formed triforce, so has to be after TWW. And Ganon gets a 'trident of power' just before the game starts which he retains in LttP, so it is before LttP. making it now
TWW -> PH -> FSA -> LttP

Oracles features a whole triforce, so post TWW, a dead ganon, so post LttP or LoZ, and a triforce that resides in Hyrule castle, so post AoL. Add the backstory in TMC and you end up with
Pre:TMC-TMC-FS-OoT-TP-TWW-TPH-FSA-ALttP-LA--LoZ-AoL-Oracles
as your full 'old timeline' or 'adult timeline'
>> Anonymous
Someone get the tranquilizer gun please.
>> Anonymous
THEY RUINED IT ALL BY MAKING LINK RIGHT HANDED
IN THE NEW ZELDA
>> Anonymous
damm its a game calm down
>> Anonymous
>>135938
I don't understand a shit with all that geeks exclusive acronym talk
>> Anonymous
dont worry about OP's video its retarded

LoZ = Legend of Zelda on nes
AoL = adventure of Link on nes
LttP = legend of zelda LInk to the past on snes
LA = LoZ, Links awakening on gb/gbc
oracles = legend of zelda, oracles of ages/seasons on gbc
WW = loz the wind waker on gcb
OoT = ocarina of time
MM = majoras mask
TP = twilight princess
FSA = four swords adventure
FS = four swords
TMC = the minish cap
PH = Phantom hourglass
>> Anonymous
they forgot that a link to the past was called so becouse it takes place 100 years befor the ledgen of zelda and Zelda II
>> Anonymous
I wounder if link being rigth handed in one of the TP game and left handed in the other has to do with the split time line theory..
>> Anonymous
hello /v/ fags.

i'm from /d/. i don't get into longwinded discussions over the superiority of shitting/nonshitting dicknipples on boards other than /d/, i'd appreciate it if you followed this example and shut the fuck up.
>> Anonymous
>>137178
except /b/ of course, sorry, should have mentioned that.
>> Anonymous
Thanks alot
>> Anonymous
>>137156
No, Link is right handed in the Wii TP because they mirrored the game. he is left handed in the Gamecube version still since it is the original mapping.
>> Anonymous
>>137250
>>they mirrored the game

Why?
>> Anonymous
>>137262
Most people are right handed, and I guess they just wanted the main sword on the primary hand.
>> Anonymous
>>137263
Thats pretty much it.

its ironic though since most Hyrulean's are left handed in the Wii version now from the mirroring.
>> Anonymous
>>137263
>>137266
Just wow... It never ceases to amaze me to what lengths marketing people will go to maximise the profit margin.
>> Anonymous
>>137270
thats not profit margin, thats gameplay -- which has always been a priority for the zelda franchise.
>> Anonymous
>>137034
Holy-freakin-crap! This never dawned on me...
>> Anonymous
Why does everyone keep doing this... For fear of butchering his name I wont try to spell it. But the creator of Zelda has already stated there are many links and many hyrules. They just keep imagining it if the games are not explicitly connected,
>> Anonymous
>But the creator of Zelda has already stated there are many links and many hyrules.
Yes, but most of the games happen in the same world. When they said "they are different characters unless specifically mentionned", it didn't mean it's a different world. We still have a continuity where some guy named Ganondorf Dragmire spawns out of the Gerudos, tries to get the Triforce, gets locked, is given some trident by controling Vaati, changes light world into dark world, and gets locked again. And always by a guy called Link with a princess called Zelda.
Similarly, it's frequently a new place called Hyrule but still in the same world, the people just move and call the new place Hyrule again.
>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
>>137609
Hyrule is just a country name. The end of TWW hints at more than one Hyrule over the history of the zelda games.

And Ganon got the trident of power before he had Vaati freed, he got the trident, then the dark mirror then the game starts and vaati is let loose.
>> Anonymous
>The end of TWW hints at more than one Hyrule over the history of the zelda games
That doesn't contradict>>137609
>And Ganon got the trident of power before he had Vaati freed, he got the trident, then the dark mirror then the game starts and vaati is let loose.
That supports the point made in>>137609apart from the order of the events.
>> Anonymous
>>137739
I wasn't trying to contradict him, just making what he said more detailed/clearer
>> Anonymous
Okay, retards, here's some corrections:

1) No, there is no canon statement that LA happens after ALttP. It happens after *a* Link's first victory over Ganon. It never designates which Link. However it's probable that it's the Link from the Oracles games if you've ever seen the true ending to that game.

2) At the end of ALttP, the "Master Sword is laid to rest again... FOREVER!" Nintendo has had chances to change this line over the years with re-releases, but they haven't. That means that any game where Link gets the Master Sword happens before ALttP. That includes the Oracles games. Not brain surgery. There are only a few games where Link does not get the Master Sword: LoZ, AoL, LA, etc.. And no, "Magic" <> "Master."

3) There is no canon statement of multiple timelines. Aonuma laid down some suggestions, that's it.

4) I'm going to bed.
>> Anonymous
>>136474
why the hell would the GB version be better than the GBC? The DX version added color and extras, and didn't take anything away from the original. Hell, if you didn't have a GBC, you could even still play it on the GB. The only reason to say that the GB version was better is some retarded sense of elitism that you're somehow a better person for having played the original game.

Douchebag.
>> Anonymous
>>137877
1. The booklet and Nintendo's mouths

2. Oracles master sword and Ganon are both bonuses for doing linked games. You don't even need the master sword to kill ganon (you can hurt him with a spin attack using the other swords) bonuses like that are as canon as the Tingle Island minigame in windwaker

3. He's already said there are split timelines, they suggested before but he has confirmed it now.

4. fluff your damn pillow