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[D-W] Naruto - Ichaicha Unbalance [English] Anonymous
Ok, here you go with a new quality doujin kindly offered by D-W

http://www.mininova.org/tor/415268

or RS

http://rapidshare.de/files/32019729/_D-W__Naruto_-_Ichaicha_Unbalance__English_.zip.html
>> Anonymous
In before D-W drama
>> Anonymous
>>122338
before that....
fap fap fap fap fap
>> Anonymous
OH MY GOD. its because of bittorrent and people like you who STEAL D-W's work and they get pissed off and it really impacts us all who honor and respect your auntie and uncle in Bel Air. i whistled for a cab and when it came near, the license plate said fresh and it had dice in the mirror. if anything i could say that this cab was rare, but i thought nah, forget it! yo homes to Bel Air!
>> Anonymous
LOL I love you guys.
>> Heavy Metal Collector !QzaONXHURY
it pains me that people are tricked into paying for this.
>> Anonymous
>>122358

As long as these people don't come here to soapbox us on how we should pay for it or get it from their stupid IRC channel, it's fine by me.
>> V-nonymous
hahaha Nimbus just basically admitted that they couldn't do shit about people who torrented the work.

Here's the other 4 doujin not torrented:

http://datorrents.com/torrents-details.asp?returnto=%2Faccount.asp&id=13884
http://www.deadfrog.us/index.php?act=entry&id=6916
>> Anonymous
>>122367

Yeah, so let's just leave it at that. They let go of our cocks and we let go of theirs.

As for the actual material, it's really so-so. I think this didn't even need a translation at all.
>> Anonymous
in before bel-air
>> V-nonymous
>>122373
meet
>>122355
>> Anonymous
Since this is heavy Metal and shibuyabashi's release, why don't you guys give them credit?
i mean you have some guy named "saha" claiming it. it is clearly the shibuyabashi scan.
>> Anonymous
>>122375
I almost fell for it.
>> Anonymous
>>122375
Shibuyabashi don't do scans, they download from winny / share and give the files english filenames and put their own name on it.
>> Anonymous
wait, where's the surprise yaoi?
>> Anonymous
For once D-W had done an eterosexual release... ;)
>> Heavy Metal Collector !QzaONXHURY
>>122382
Actually, if you check the release of this on winny/share, you'll see the same nfo and info cover i released this with. I bought the doujin at C70 and scanned it at 300dpi last week.
NB: the abnormally high resolution and file size.
But mostly shibuyabashi redistributes scans yes. This isn't one of those times though.
My (only) beef is that it says "raws provided by saha" and when i went to the IRC channel, nimbus lied and claimed they scanned it themselves.
You can crosscheck it with my scan if you like.
Nice that they translated it though. Also nice that it's here for free. Hentaikey and all that paying for hentai is all i'm opposed to. Have my scan if you want it.
>> kenn
>>122395
> My (only) beef is that it says "raws provided by saha" and when i went to the IRC channel, nimbus lied and claimed they scanned it themselves.

Their hypocrisy never ends.
>> V-nonymous
Wooooow, what a bunch of asses.
>> Anonymous
I think you guys have a couple of things wrong.
A) D-W never asks you to pay for their releases.
B) They give out releases for free. I thought you guys would be at least be able to respect that and only download it on IRC. Why is that so hard to do? Is it something that's impossible for you to do, respect the people that make free releases?

As for them stealing the scans, I don't know anything about that. It could or could not be true. :/ If it is, I'm disappointed.
>> Anonymous
>>122408
It's like they set up a FREE soup kitchen, with only one rule, that you don't take the food outside. Instead, you guys take it outside anyway and spit on them when they ask for donations.
>> Anonymous
Enough with the useless preaching and stupid analogies. Let's get practical for a moment.

Here's the deal:

a) D-W owns NO rights of the material they translate;
b) Henceforth, they can't do jack shit about people torrenting their works except for whining and bitching, so the material is going to be torrented wether they like it or not;
c) The only options they have is to suck it up and keep releasing or stop translating and GTFO;
d) 4channers don't care either way. We are not moved by their threats of quitting the business. In fact, if they decide to cry and take the ball home, we'll hang their heads on the wall as we managed to close yet another stupid community.

Do not troll us if you don't want to be trolled back. All your bitching will only prompt us to torrent their stuff even more.
>> kenn
>>122408
No, their behaviour has shown that they're not worth respecting.

Besides, there's no logical reason for downloading their stuff from IRC rather than a torrent. Since internet arguments always require retarded analogies that don't make sense, it's like they set up a FREE soup kitchen, but say that you have to drink the soup through one of those tiny coffee straws. And when someone says "Screw that!" and takes the lid off the styrofoam cup and sips the soup straight from the cup, they get all whiny about how someone is drinking their soup in a manner they don't approve of.
>> Heavy Metal Collector !QzaONXHURY
Look, i don't really care. Yes they are my scans, but i distributed them freely. Nice of them to translate and i disagree with them (and certain people here) over some of the "moral" issues concerning selling other peoples intellectual property.
I claim no rights to this at all (and therefore have no right to sell it)
D-W isn't an entity that concerns me as i don't read translated doujins (thanks to having a little japanese knowledge of my own)
Props to them for doing what they do distributing for free. If you're stupid enough to join hentaikey or hentaipalm or whatever other IP (intellectual property again) stealing and selling organisations, that's your business.
And i'm NOT gonna be watermarking future scans. That's weak.
>> Internet
you don't get to make the rules i do

-internet
>> Anonymous
>>122408
They do not have ANY right to even ask ONE single thing. They own their translation but do not own any rights on the images. The authors don't want their doujin to go around the net: have you ever see an artist home page with their doujin available?
I guess no. Since D-W have no rights at all, nobody should feel compelled to respect their only rule. Or do you respect artist's rule to not read raw doujinshi on the internet?

They could start bitching and whining when the only thing they release are txt files with translations.

Kapish?
>> Anonymous
>>122412
Your shitty analogy is a lot better than everyone else's. I commend you, sir.
>> Anonymous
>>122419
truth.
>> Anonymous
>>122412
A winner is you for such a great, valid analogy.

>>Face it, D-W is right and the "free distro for everyone" people are wrong. (ooh now you all want to comment on this!)

I almost choked on my laughter upon reading this statement on their last release's rant. I can't possibly understandhow, after all the debating, they still have the balls to say that OUR reasons make no sense. Of course they will never explicitly say "OF COURSE WE'RE IN FOR THE MONEY", so they'll stick with their unlogical rethorics forever and ever. What pains me more is that they've created such an army of blind followers who won't think for themselves for damn minute and are ready to kill if something even remotely defies in any way their beloved pseudo-community.

What's also funny is that they keep telling us to "fuck off" and leave them alone. I mean, SAY WHAT?! We're merely responding to their nonsensical bitching! All we did was put a torrent up, nobody was harrassed or anything (before they created all the drama). It's not like D-W was at gunpoint to "allow" torrenting.

WTF IS UP WITH THOSE GUYS?! Jesus.
>> Anonymous
>>122417

Thanks for all the work you guys at #shibuyabashi do. I often feels that it goes unnapreciated around here, but it just shows that you guys are not in it for the e-penis suckage.

The key to understanding the current feud between 4chan and D-W is that D-W does indeed offer a free alternative to get their translated material, however it is a purposedly hindered and user-unfriendly environment. This is a subtle way of forcing people to pay for their content via Hentai Key while still saving face because they technically offer it for free.

So when 4chan makes torrents out of their stuff, it pisses them out because we are crippling their shady business of selling stuff that never belonged to them in the first place.

These people love to point out how they lose money and etc, but they need to wake up and smell the coffee because all anime/manga/ groups are like this. We're all operating on loss instead of profit. Aside the occasional donations, costs are footed by the patrons because of their desire to provide something to the community they love. DAtorrents is like this. Anime fansub groups are like this. I bet Shibubayashi is like this too.

We have no need to feel sympathy for these guys because they "lose" money. Everyone who starts in this kind of endeavour knows what they're getting into.
>> Anonymous
Wish that D-W could take a hint from guys like Anonymous Spore, Anonymous Benefactor, Random Translator, etc.

Also Shibuyabashi and other non-profit organizations who take chunks out of their free time to provide 4chan with stuff we take for granted far too often.
>> Anonymous
>>122432
I think you are the most iluminated person to ever visit 4chan or /t/. I'm glad people like you exist. Too bad very few (if it's not "nobody") will bother to read your detailed and extremely faithful to reality rant, let alone open their eyes.

Thank you, sir. Seriously.
>> Anonymous
>>122432

Oh nos! A well-founded reply! 4CHAN HAX

Excellent post, I agree 100%.
>> Anonymous
why do people translate doujins in the first place? i mean, some stuff like retake has a decent story, but most of it is just ridiculous, so why bother?
>> Anonymous
>>122445
opinions, etc.
Context is a part of porn, even doujinshi. Translating the context can add to the hotness or whatever. Of course it can detract too depending on the source material, but that's true for a lot of things ("this jpop song is totally great, thank god I don't know what they're saying!")

I've seen a lot of erotic doujinshi/manga translated in the past where the context actually adds a lot of value to it. This Ichaicha Unbalance is arguably not one of them, but still.
>> JESSICA! JESSICA! Anonymous
ahh all this drama... brings me back to my highschool days...
>> Anonymous
While I have no intention to back down on the whole torrent ordeal, I can't help but feel bad for Sayo and Hazard.

I know that if the circunstances were different they'd side with us, but they can't do anything because the guy is paying them to translate stuff. But, unless this is what's putting food on their table and not just a side job, I'd advice them to jump ship before the D-W stink sticks with them permanently.
>> Anonymous
They updated it. Now it says scanned by HMC.

I guess whining works.
>> Anonymous
>>122453
More like saving face, like all good BUSINESSES
>> Heavy Metal Collector !QzaONXHURY
Cool. Drama over.
On a related note, here is a direct link to both the files (both the raw and the translated)
shibuyabashi.org/stuff/Naruto - Ichaicha Unbalance [English+RAW].zip
I also tinyurl'd it for the braindead.
http://tinyurl.com/s5b87
>> Anonymous
>>122464
FUCKEN SAVED!
>> Anonymous
>>122432

Good post, but you're still wrong on one thing though - DW doesn't lose any money, at all. It's a facade.
>> members Anonymous
From #D-W's site
>>#doujin-world has operated quiet nicely in its own little corner of rizon, the members enjoy the free trading and discussion that they are allowed to participate in.

By this, an outside observer would think they need to sign up with HKGT to even get the stuff from their site (I thought that I'd have to sign up until I saw that it was HK).

Sell someone a product that they think they need.
>> Anonymous
IRC isn't that hard, and they have a good guide on their site (last time I checked). but yeah, they're pulling a lars on this, and they have less right to

sage'ing because drama deserves no bump
>> Anonymous
>>122510
aging to counter

your move anonymous
>> Anonymous
Drama always deserves a bump
>> Anonymous
>>122510
No, IRC isn't that hard, because it's easy enough for the DW-tards to learn how to operate a but. However, that's the main problem: It's so easy that these complete morons don't bother to actually learn anything about IRC and don't realize how shitty DW's xdcc system is.
>> Anonymous
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>>122370As for the actual material, it's really so-so
either lying or stupid. this shit rocks. see attached from untranslated version. note that it's not from the DW version so don't go bitching at me too
>> Anonymous
I think it's more like the dialogue itself in this doujinshi was not worth translating.