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UFC 64: Unstoppable Howard Dean
DISCUSS.

Official site: http://64.ufc.com

Full card: http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=eventDetail.fightCard&eid=220
>> Anonymous
I was hanging out with my friend who is a UFC fan, and he wanted to watch the Shamrock vs Ortiz fight, and I gotta say it was the gayest piece of bullshit TV i've ever seen, 30 minutes leading up to shamrock being mounted in the corner and then the fight ended. What do people see in UFC and now I know why the took Joe Rogan in.
>> Anonymous
>>20181
No offense, but anyone with half a brain realized the 3rd fight wasn't going to be competitive.
>> what Howard Dean
>>20181
Shamrock/Ortiz was not disappointing whatsoever, because anyone who has even a shred of MMA knowledge could tell you there was a 95% chance Ortiz was going to finish Shamrock in the first round (again) in a completely one-sided fight. UFC likes to hype some of their fights up to be more than they really are, clearly.

As for why people like MMA, uh, because it's a combat sport that's a realistic simulation of a fight? Everyone can enjoy/understanding fighting, it transcends culture and personal taste. Although I must say, there are several people who don't like it because they don't understand the intricacies of it. You have to learn about it before you can really appreciate it.
>> PICKS ^_________________________^ Howard Dean
Rich Franklin < Anderson Silva
Silva by TKO round 4

Sean Sherk > Kenny Florian
Sherk by TKO round 1

Jon Fitch > Kuniyoshi Hironaka
Fitch by TKO round 2

Cheick Kongo > Carmelo Marrero
Kongo by TKO round 1

Spencer Fisher > Dan Lauzon
Fisher by TKO round 2
>> Anonymous
We all knew that Shamrock had a very small chance of winning. If he did it would've been a huge upset.
>> Anonymous
Spencer Fisher is a beast.
>> Anonymous
>>20188
[QUOTE]it's a combat sport that's a realistic simulation of a fight[/QUOTE]

Not really... I love UFC and I watch every one of them, but they don't really represent real fighting. They could represent real fighting if you're talking about bar fights and whatnot, then it's still only close. But it almost isn't even related to combat.
>> To modify a line from Goldberg, Howard Dean
AND RICH FRANKLIN LASTS LESS THAN ONE ROUND AGAINST ANDERSON SILVA!!!!!!!!!!
>> Anonymous
How do I ate knee?
>> Anonymous
>>20188
>because it's a combat sport that's a realistic simulation of a fight
lol, which is why they have a an entire book to fit all the rules they have. UFC 1 was about the best thing to happen in fighting sports. Nowdays, UFC is glorified boxing.
>> Anonymous
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Here's the exact moment Franklin realized he was doomed.
>> Howard Dean
>>20232
Jesus, you can see the fear/panic in Rich's eyes. I also think he may have cracked/broken a rib in the process. His nose is DEFINITELY broken.
>> Anon
bumpy
>> Anonymous
i just saw the fight, after the fight they showed a close up of Rich Franklin he litarly has no nosebridge anymore, fucking gross, it got bashed in by the other dudes nee, and im suprised that Rich didn't reach out to grab a leg, seemed like a no brainer to me he kept getting mu tai nees in the ribs, i would have reaced for he's leg and walked toward him holding he's leg trying to trip him.
>> Howard Dean
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>>20322
Well, conceptually speaking the Thai clinch prevents, or at least discourages someone to attempt a takedown, because you put yourself at a high risk of getting kneed in the face. Rich should have definitely made more of an attempt to break it, though, instead of standing there trying to trade knees with Silva.

Pic related.
>> Anonymous
>>20219
Boxing isn't worthy of being placed on the same level of that in-which MMA has created.

Boxing is for the weak, and those who couldn't make it in MMA.
>> Anonymous
>>20379
Rich Franklin should read up on this whole "Judo" thing, I hear it works really well from the clinch.
>> Anonymous
Elbows should be banned from UFC. That faggot florian made it to champ by cutting people. Elbows only lead to cuts that's it. When a talented fighter came along florian got his ass handed to him.
>> Anonymous
>>20644

Yeah because taking away elbows won't severely limit MT fighters....
>> Howard Dean
>>20644
It sucks that fights are stopped from cuts via elbows when they're still competitive, yeah, but I don't think they should be outright banned. The UFC already has too much banned now (with an inferior ruleset compared to PRIDE's), and it limits some particular types of fighters.

Sherk is a level or two above Florian, I agree, but Florian hardly got his ass handed to him. Basically, Sherk LnP'd his way to a victory, all while giving Florian AIDS.
>> Howard Dean
>>20661
And for the record, yes, I know PRIDE disallows elbows.
>> Anonymous
>>20660
Pride banned elbows and Wanderlei Silva MT practictioner is not severely limited in any way.

The point is Florian is a shitty fighter who relied on cutting his way to victory.

>>20661
Dude Sherk dominated Florian he picked him up and took him down over and over. He man-handled him all over the mat. So Sherk is just a ground and pound wrestler. Big deal he isn't flashy but he dominated.
>> Howard Dean
>>20802
Not to play semantics, but I never said Sherk didn't dominate. What I did say was Florian didn't get his ass handed to him; that implies Florian was hurt, and he was NEVER hurt the entire fight. Sherk did dominate, but it was a shitty way to win a fight, especially for a championship. Sherk isn't a GnP fighter, or at least he wasn't that night. That was a LnP exhibition if I've ever seen one.
>> Bonus image Howard Dean
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>> Anonymous
with every rule change each year, the UFC is becoming more and more like Boxing until we cant tell the difference. Bloodsport = Fans
Boxing = boredom
>> Anonymous
UFC sucks.

GTFO meatheads.