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Caps > Pens HKK !h7MHU9L/Oo
CB, what's it like to know you'll never have a player who exemplifies two way hockey and goal scoring better than Alexander Ovechkin? Face it, your team is full of a bunch of pansies lead by a guy who dives at every opportunity and bitches to the refs about everything. You don't have shit on the spirit and drive of the Washington Capitals.

The Caps make have lost in the first round last year but so did the Penguins two years ago and look how that turned out. The Caps will go further in the playoffs than the Penguins this year. Someone screen cap this thread, I want to throw it in CB's face come July.

I also eagerly await your response about how Sidney Crosby is somehow better than Ovechkin even though Ovie has outplayed him two out of three years.
>> Anonymous
hockey is a team sport

ovie is def more physical than sid, but sid makes his teammates better players, and sets up more plays (hence his assists are higher)

caps will make the playoffs, b/c surprise! they play in the shittiest division in hockey. they might go farther than last year, but they're not as deep as the pens (especially at goalie)

also, many pens fans on /sp/ are levelheaded enough to enjoy both players. i know i do. they're exciting to watch and are the future of the sport. CB is a faggot and makes it hard for penguins fans to be proud of their team on here. especially since we went through some tough shit in the late 90s/2000s
>> Anonymous
ITT: In soviet russia puck shoots you
>> HKK !h7MHU9L/Oo
>>375324

>shittiest division in hockey

I find that hard to believe considering two Southeast teams have won two of the last four Stanley Cups and no one from the Atlantic has won one over that span.
>> Anonymous
>>375320
screencap your own god damned thread nigger.
>> Anonymous
>>375327
but what has happened since then?

the canes were a fluke. they beat the rochester americans in the ECF and roly goes down in game1

the lightning were def legit, but post-lockout nhl =/= pre-lockout nhl. they've been crap since. and the rest of the league has gotten better

i know it sounds like bawwwwing, but there's so much more depth around the league now, and in other divisions

that being said, i don't think the pens nor the caps will win it this season. detroit is still too beastly. it's just not the young guys' time yet. plus both teams need a few missing pieces to their puzzles
>> Commissioner Red !5gFoSxriW2
>>375330

Detroit are the Yankees of the NHL. They'll choke it off and fail to make the Cup finals.
>> Anonymous
>>375335
Except they make the playoffs every year and have a salary cap. Also their two best players were drafted and developed through the Red Wing system.

How are they like the Yankees again?
>> Anonymous
>>375389
agreed. i'm not a red wings fan, but what edges them out vs other teams is their insane drafting and development.
>> Heynonnynonnymous
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I find capitalists have more advantages over penguins. They don't molt, for example.
>> Capitals Bastard !OdglrWcU.I
>>375320
I'm Capitals Bastard and I approve of this message
>> sayain zubas
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>>375335
>>375496
thats it right there guyz, if teh yankees farmed, then they would be concidered like teh red wings, not teh other way around
>> Anonymous
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CHANGE IS CUMING
>> Capitals Bastard !OdglrWcU.I
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>> Anonymous
I'd rather vote for AO than McCain or Obama, by a fucking long shot.
>> HKK !h7MHU9L/Oo
>>375512

And I approve of you, Capitals Bastard.
>> Anonymous
OP speaks the truth.
>> CapitalistBastard !!f/pELCnjRD0
>>375320

>You don't have shit on the spirit and drive of the Washington Capitals.

The spirit and DRIVE to lose in the first round of the playoffs to a team that got CRUSHED by the pens in 5 games.

Sidney Crosby lead the league in points when he was injured.

Ovechkin got his face buried in the boards when he tried to hit Malkin.

He is the opposite of a two-way player and he certainly isn't a playmaker.

He's a selfish bastard with the MOST SHOTS IN THE LEAGUE BY FAR with a pitifully low shooting percentage.

Ovechkin will NEVER win a cup. Hell, he won't ever win a CONFERENCE.
>> HKK !h7MHU9L/Oo
>>375887

I already brought up the fact they lost in the first round. It happens to good teams all the time. The Penguins got their asses handed to them in the first round just two seasons ago.

Even if he did league in points at the time of his injury(something I'm not sure of) he did it with assists. Those are nice and all but assists totals are always higher than goal totals because of the possibility of two assists for every one goal.

When was this? Do you have a link or are you making shit up?

How is he not a two way player? He was 9th in the league in hits last year along with being 9th in takeaways. I'm sure you'll argue Malkin had more takeaways but he only finished with one more than Ovechkin and Ovechkin absolutely blew him out of the water in hits.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you win hockey games by having more goals than the other team? If those are the rules, and I believe they are, shouldn't the best goal scorer in the league take the most shots?

Ovechkin will win a cup and he'll do it before Cindy.
>> Anonymous
I'm a western conference fag and without hesitation or bias I can tell you that Ovechkin is six times as scary out on the ice against your team than anyone on the Penguins.

He is the best all-around player in the NHL. He can hit, he can score, he can score on his own with shit for linemates. He's amazing.
>> CapitalistBastard !!f/pELCnjRD0
>>375891

Hits =/= Defense

Being a headhunter is not the same as a good 2 way player.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZkPn9kjRFE
>> HKK !h7MHU9L/Oo
>>375897

Right, I forgot Pittsburgh fans considered defense to be standing around like a faggot and letting the defenseman do all the work. Ovechkin was the ONLY player to finish in the top ten in hits and takeaways last year. Something that Crosby and Malkin will never do.

As for blowing the hit, Scott Stevens, the greatest stay at home defenseman of all-time, blew hits every now and then. And at least Ovechkin tries to hit people. Let me know when Crosby hits ANYBODY.
>> CapitalistBastard !!f/pELCnjRD0
>>375911

>As for blowing the hit,

The point of the video, non-hockey playing dipshit, isn't that he FAILED EPICALLY in the hit(although it's hilarious to see him whine like a bitch afterwards) it is that he is RUNNING OUT OF POSITION to headhunt below his own goal line.

A winger should NOT be in that position on defense.

Any other questions neckbeard?
>> Anonymous
>>375916
BAWWWWW you get out of here cb, you and your facts!
>> Anonymous
>>375916
I play hockey and someone blowing a single hit does not make him defensively irresponsible. I've seen defensive powerhouses like Pronger and Phaneuf bone-up similar hits, does that make them shitty defencemen?

So he dropped down low on his side to cause a turnover, calculated risk. Malkin wasn't going to pass it back to the point and Ovie read that.
>> CapitalistBastard !!f/pELCnjRD0
>>375928

Ok, bantam underage faggot.

There are 4 Capitals in the crease or below the goal line when Ovechkin runs out of position to headhunt.

That is fucking terrible.
>> HKK !h7MHU9L/Oo
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>>375916

Do you not understand that people blow hits and skate out of their zone all the time? Hell, if it weren't for people going outside of their regular zone of play, we wouldn't have known the greatness of Bobby Orr. I know the Pens idea of getting an advantage is for Crosby to dive and to get a powerplay but the Caps don't play pansy ass hockey. They knock some cracker asshole out and go onto to score.

Anyway, one last fact for you:

Three players in the history of the NHL have lead the league in points and goals along with winning the Pearson and Hart in the same season. Lemieux, Gretzky and the man to your left. Blow me, CB.
>> CapitalistBastard !!f/pELCnjRD0
>>375939

None of those awards have a thing to do with defensive ability.

Ovechkin is not known as a defensively responsible player.

He was lucky to win the Art Ross. He won't win it again.
>> Anonymous
>>375938
I played Junior A in BCHL

If you are a winger and you are coming back into your zone with speed, and you spot a guy on the other team with his head down and the puck in his skates, and you have momentum... why the fuck would you then stop? What are you protecting against? That Malkin will blindly kick the puck to the D-Man you are supposed to be covering? Are you serious?

Ovechkin may have borked the hit but he caused a turnover besides. It was a great play and the result showed that.
>> Anonymous
>>375950
ITT: everyone gets trolled
>> HKK !h7MHU9L/Oo
>>375950

Actually, the Hart and the Pearson are voted on by the writers and players to determine the best player in hockey. This includes every aspect of the game.

Want to keep failing with your bullshit points or do you just want to admit Ovechkin is better than Cindy "The Diver" Crosby and get it over with?
>> Anonymous
ITT: Eloquent trolls rage in a dignified, yet uncontrolled manner.
>> MGX !2oQyAQpUW.
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Why are people arguing over a sport that has the finals that decide it's champion on cable television. That makes you equal to the WNBA.

HOCKEY FUCKING SUCKS, IT'S FOOTBALL SEASON
>> Anonymous
if ovechkin takes too many shots how comes his shooting percentage is better than crosby's
>> Anonymous
>>375968
HOCKEY DOESN'T SUCK, THE MARKETING DOES

IT'S ALL ABOUT THE STORIES
>> Anonymous
OH!
>> Anonymous
>>375968
1/10
>> Anonymous
Hey OP you said the Pens will never have a two way player as good as Ovy. Have you heard of Mario?
>> Anonymous
>>375938
>BAWWWWWW ONE PLAY DEFINES THE QUALITY OF THESE PLAYERS
>> Anonymous
>>375970
Because he makes so many goals...oh.
>> Anonymous
>>375993
/thread
>> Anonymous
Ovechkin > Crosby

End of fucking story.
>> Anonymous
If the pens had ovechkin instead of crosby they'd all have stanley cup rings.
>> HKK !h7MHU9L/Oo
>>375993

Mario was a phenomenal player in his day but I'm talking currently. The current group of Pen fans, or at least the majority of the, only hopped on the bandwagon after Crosby.
>> headsigh !pPyM90q9.6
>>375916
>non-hockey playing
>CapitalistBastard!!f/pELCnjRD0

wat
>> Capitals Bastard !OdglrWcU.I
>>376017
I got here late but everything I would have said basically boils down to this
>> Anonymous
>>376025
Like CB
>> Anonymous
> Malkin wasn't going to pass

Sounds about right.
>> CapitalistBastard !!f/pELCnjRD0
>>375968

>That makes you equal to the WNBA.

NBC is cable television now?

Idiot.
>> CapitalistBastard !!f/pELCnjRD0
>>375952

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Holy fuck, you can't even correctly analyze a minute of hockey tape.

Ovechkin was the LAST PLAYER BACK on defense with no speed. He LEFT his position, skated in the way of his own defensemen and got punked.

This was terrible defense no matter how you slice it.

Malkin got no help on the play. That's why the defensemen was able to take the puck off of his stick.
>> Anonymous
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Question: How do you win games when your team's only capable defensemen are gimps?
>> MGX !2oQyAQpUW.
>>376095
So I guess everyone watches all their favorite shows and sitcoms on Versus. I mean it has all the greatest shows in the world NO ONE GIVES A FUCK ABOUT, LIKE HOCKEY FOR EXAMPLE.
>> Anonymous
>>376112
This seems to be your only argument that Ovechkin is a bad player...one play. Learn something about hockey, CB, please, so you don't sound like a massive idiot.
>> Anonymous
go lightning!
>> Anonymous
GO BRUINS
>> Anonymous
>>376117
0/10
>> Anonymous
Fuck both the Washington Crapitals and the Pittsburgh Penises.

Ovechkin's a diver too, you know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh6t7McxDQc ignore the bullshit by the video poster, this is a fucking barrel roll of a dive.
>> Anonymous
>>376164
Umberger's leg definitely caught him. Wasn't intentional, but whatever. It wasn't a dive, he lost balance from tripping over Umberger's leg.
>> Anonymous
>>376164
lol i like how he doesnt start to spin until a second after hes actually hit. what a puss.
>> Anonymous
>>375335
Except for the fact that they just won the stanley cup. rite?
>> Anonymous
>>376193
I guess throwing yourself into a barrel roll would be a result of having your leg tap with a stick.

IT'S A DIVE IDIOT.
>> Anonymous
>>376220
He didn't trip over the stick fucktard, he tripped over the leg.
>> Anonymous
The crap about crosby diving started during a game when Hatcher chipped out two of his teeth. It is generated by the shitty Philly media who are mad because they have to live in a shit city.
>> Anonymous
>>376319
Flyers won how many postseason games against the Pens?

Oh yeah, 1....

That was all because of dives right?

LOLOL
>> Anonymous
The Caps are way more of a hockey team then the Penguins will ever be, at least they have some grit and don't play some shitty finesse game
>> Anonymous
>>376403
Enjoy not making it far with your "True Grit" hockey team.
>> Anonymous
>>376193
>>376238
Ovechkin isn't some peewee-kid. He is more than capable of skating through that little bump. Hell, I even think the announcers pointed that out.

>>376378
It had a lot more to do with Philadelphia's little bout with the injury bug...

...and the zebras looking out for Crosby and Malkin while conveniently ignoring what the Pengoons were up to. Philly may have deserved it for what they did to Washington and Montreal, but it can't be said the officiating was that consistant. The Pens had Game 2 handed to them.
>> Anonymous
>>376424
Sounds a lot like BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
>> Phillyfag
>>376424It had a lot more to do with Philadelphia's little bout with the injury bug...

Seconded, I hope the Flyers will actually have some defensemen standing when they are in the ECF this year.
>> Phillyfag
>>376433

And that's when, not if.
>> Anonymous
>>376378

Last year? 1. All time, we owned the Pens, that was the first time, in the Pens franchise HISTORY that they beat the Flyers in the Playoffs.
>> Anonymous
how many stanley cups has ovie been too?
/thread
>> Anonymous
>>376758

And how many cups has Crosby won? Zero. Which is going to be the amount he wins in his career.
>> Capitals Bastard !OdglrWcU.I
>>376758
He's been in the league for three years and last season was the only one where he didn't have a shit team behind him.
>> Anonymous
>>375320
>I also eagerly await your response about how Sidney Crosby is somehow better than Ovechkin even though Ovie has outplayed him two out of three years.

year 1: Ovy by a slight margin
year 2: Sid dominated
year 3: Ovy led the reg. season in scoring with Sid missing 2 months, Sid led the playoffs in scoring with every marquee player healthy.

also, Crosby's still two years younger. Last year he was the same age as Ovy in his rookie season.
>> Anonymous
>>377233
>every marquee player healthy.

If Malkin's pathetic excuse for on-ice play can be interpreted as 'healthy' you must play hockey in a geriatric ward league or something.
>> Anonymous
>>376747
Sounds to me like the tides are a turning.

I'm sure to you, it just sounds like more diving. Diving, right?
>> Anonymous
>>377253
Yeah he had the flu and was banged up by the time the finals began but Crosby was never 100 % in the playoffs to begin with, coming off his injury.

there was a 5-point gap between them, and a conscious Malkin would probably have resulted in Crosby getting a couple more PP points as well.
>> Anonymous
>>377268
Pensfag here, and I won't make any fucking excuses about the finals. They played like absolute shit in the series against the Wings. Nobody on the team wanted to help getting the puck down the ice, and let the Wings players poke check the Pens coming out of their zone all day.

The fact they stopped working together and acted like they should just be winning because of how easy it was previously, it had jack shit to do with injuries and sickness. They stopped playing, and the fact they even won 2 games was pretty amazing, with how bad they played each and every game.

Hopefully, they'll learn from that this season. They need role players, not goal scorers. Goals will come when they do what they need to. The end of the season trade was bad, plain and simple. No offense, but I don't think Hossa was worth the price they paid, especially to have him leave immediately and go to Detroit.

Flyers and Caps still suck though. Enjoy watching Ovie getting the scoring title, when it doesn't mean anything outside the regular season.
>> Anonymous
>>375327

The past 3 years, any team from the SE division had less points than the 8th seeded team.

SE IS HARD AMIRITE
>> HKK !h7MHU9L/Oo
>>377300

Cool, let me know when any other division from the East wins a Cup post lock-out.
>> Anonymous
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HEY GUYS CAN I PLAY? I HAVE A MIKE RICHARDS