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F1 and NASCAR
I'm under the impression there F1 vs NASCAR can almost be linked to football vs football.
F1 is the biggest motor sport, most prestigious in the world.
NASCAR is the biggest motor sport, most prestigious in the USA.

Now because I'm not a US American, I like F1 (but I'm not really a motor sports fan), so I want to ask NASCAR fans, NASCAR is suppose to be the second most popular sport in the USA after football, I've tried to watch it, but it just looks boring going round and round in a oval for I don't know how many laps, is it even over 100?. It just doesn't seem as challenging as F1.
>> Anonymous
Racing is not a sport.
>> Anonymous
Nascar isn't even close to the 2nd most popular sport in America.

1. American Football
2. Major League Baseball
3. Basketball
4. Nascar
5. Hockey
>> Anonymous
>>412525
"NASCAR is the No. 1 spectator sport -- holding 17 of the top 20 highest-attended sporting events in the U.S., and is the No. 2-rated regular season sport on television."
>> Anonymous
Wherever you got that stat is wrong.

Here...
http://www.usatourist.com/english/inside/sports.html
>> Anonymous
>>412522
Races are usually over 400 miles in length. Which is bullshit. They should run two races for about a hundered laps, take the top half of both fields, and have them run in one final race w/ about 20 cars.
>> Anonymous
>>412526
Nascar has what...30 events a year? The NFL has 16 games each weekend for a few months, and the other sports have many times as many. Of course it will outdraw on that basis. Outside of the southern US, it has almost no following though (I've lived in the midwest and east coast, and you never even see stories in the papers.) Even there, it is behind the real sports.
>> Anonymous
It isn't boring knowing all the background stuff that goes in to getting the cars set up and how they operate on the track. The thing is, driver skill isn't much of a difference at the top, it is mainly the engineering teams and adjustment calls that make a race. That being said, nothing beats going to see a race and forgetting about the things and just having a great time and lots of beer.
>> Anonymous
>>412531
Got that from nascar.com
>> Anonymous
Because you dont have to be awake to count as a "viewer"
>> Anonymous
>>412538
Wrong. Come to Charlotte and say that. It is even or ahead of the Panthers. Which you may not think is saying much, but it is. Panthers rock.
>> Anonymous
/o/
>> Anonymous
>>412588
No, no they don't. Enjoy your heaps of fail once Peppers leaves and Smith gets old.
>> Anonymous
>>412623
And Stewart, Otah and Conner (just to name 2008 draft) get more experienced? Okay.
>> Anonymous
Question to all you southern fags: if you could only have NASCAR or college football, which one would you pick? Please answer as stereotypically as possible, as though you don't have high-speed internet or dental insurance.
>> Anonymous
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>nascar
>prestigious
>> Anonymous
99% of motor sport is driving in cirlces. How the fuck can anyone possibly get excited by that?
>> Anonymous
The big difference is that American football is simply superior to soccer and so most Americans like it.

F1 is superior to NASCAR and NASCAR is only followed by ignorant rednecks (I admit I watch races sometimes just for Tony Stewart who is one of the best IRL trolls in sports) ... I wish F1 had more of a following in the US, but oh well. I grew up in a place where open-wheel racing is bigger than NASCAR anyway (we produced Sam Hornish, Jr) so I guess maybe we can appreciate F1 more.
>> Anonymous
>The big difference is that American football is simply superior to soccer and so most Americans like it.

Must... resist... trolling...
>> Anonymous
Tony Stewart is a fucking beast.
>> Anonymous
Protip for NonAmericans: This country is full of regional interests, sports or otherwise. It comes from being a nation with alot of land mass. Marketing/national press has mislead you into thinking that the US is homogeneous. Some places you go love NASCAR some love indycar and other places love short track. Also, being from Indiana, I haven't forgiven F1 for it's complete fuckup of the Indy race.
P.S. F1 fans wear some pretty rediculus clothes. What's with the open shirts and jewery? Could you dress anymore sterotypical?
>> Anonymous
>>412522
NASCAR is a different type of challenge, although I fully admit that the difficulty level (driving-wise) of NASCAR has plummeted in recent years as more and more technology has crept into "stock cars." Yes, minus two races a year, it's nothing but left turns. But, Americans like to be able to see all of the action, and road and street courses just don't offer that for spectators at most venues. While oval tracks don't make each pass as meaningful as they are in F1, we would mostly rather have that than what most see here as the usual F1 "parade." I like both (plus IndyCar and NHRA) and appreciate each for what they are.

>>412533
I sort of agree. In years past, there was real drama over whether a car in either Indy-style or NASCAR could hold up to 500 miles. These days, engine failure is so rare that such a long distance means absolutely nothing. In NASCAR, I think it is a major factor that is driving away both old and casual fans as there is now far too much "ride around" time. Both in the interest of being more TV and fan friendly as well as to cut costs (both for our current economic crap-out and the overall health of the sport even in good times), it would behoove NASCAR to shorten many of its 500 milers down to 400 and its 400s down to 300. The overall shorter races in IndyCar really convey a sense of urgency...NASCAR should look at that before they bore themselves back into being a third or fourth-tier sport.
>> Anonymous
>>412675
big difference between driving around in circles at 20 mph than at 200 mph.
>> Anonymous
>>412522
I live in america. I like both. They both present different challenges. NASCAR has more of an endurance type challenge where F1 has the challenge of turning left and right and technology. If I had the choice though, I would watch F1 over NASCAR, especially the way it has gone so far this season.
>> Anonymous
>>412538
Not quite true. Sure, the South will always be the hotbed of NASCAR interest. As for newspapers (especially in the Bos-Wash corridor), most still have the same stick-and-ball bias that ESPN does (which mostly ignores NASCAR even though they share its television contract). NASCAR TV ratings in non-southern cities are very respectable, even in the Los Angeles market where I live. Whether one likes NASCAR or not, to infer that only Southerners follow it is truly incorrect.

On the other hand, your point about NASCAR's 30+ races vs 16 NFL games is absolutely correct. NASCAR's claim of being the second most popular sport in the US is utterly laughable.
>> Anonymous
Britfag here.

I started watching NASCAR this year as it's being shown in it's entirety for the first time ever and it's entrigued me greatly. Granted I always thought of it as a "OMG LEFT TURN FEST" but it's probably the only motorsport I've watched where you can't say who'll win before the race begins or even 15-20 laps remaining.. ANYTHING can happen in NASCAR, bad pits, accidents, blow ups and driver errors.. TIS AWESOME!

In Formula One (which I also watch btw), you know Ferrari and McLaren are the strongest two, with Alonso on a late season surge. Plus with the whole Stewards throwing out penalities like they're going extinct causing major contraversy. Hamilton in Spa, Bourdais last week in Fuji. Ferrari always look like they're getting favouritism which may NOT be the case but to the casual observer it certainly looks like the FIA = Ferrari's International Ally.

PS. I hope Jimmy Johnson fails massively. I want Carl Edwards to win :(
>> Anonymous
F1 has King Alonso.

Victory.
>> Sage
F1 is open wheels, and they often show onboard camera view - it lets you experience the excitement of the driver.
>> Anonymous
>>415193
so does nascar retard

also, nice sage
>> Anonymous
pretty clear that NASCAR isn't challenging if a woman can compete with men.
>> Anonymous
>>413419
bravo on appreciating nascar, you make some excellent points.

as an amerifag i enjoy the F1 also, but also noticed the same drivers seem to win every week.
>> Anonymous
>>415207
>pretty clear that NASCAR isn't challenging if a woman can compete with men.
Then please tell us, o great bastion of NASCAR knowledge...what female driver is currently doing well or even showing up on a weekly basis in any of NASCAR's top three divisions?
>> Anonymous
>>415211
You haven't seen the latest races, did you?

Admittedly, things were getting pretty ridiculous lately, but one thing you can't accuse F1 of right now are repeated winners. Basically the entire grid has been to the podium at least once this season.