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/sp/artans, even though the Premier League is the greatest league on this Earth, why do the Brazilians, Argentinians and superstars from other countries like Henry and Van Nistelrooy fuck off to La Liga for Barca and Real Madrid as soon as they get big?

Neither team has been good in 4 years. I thought it was the nicer weather, but it can't be just that... can it?
>> Anonymous
Cause theyre not pricks like EPL teams.

Its mostly for the cash.
>> Anonymous
Spain is sunny England is rainy, that's it.

Oh, and the food in Spain is also much better.
>> Anonymous
>>129506the Premier League is the greatest league on this Earth

wat? shitsux
>> Anonymous
>>129512
try again.
>> Anonymous
I would feel bad being a RM fan, its fucking horrible watching how they keep on bringing mercenaries to play for them.

Milan is going to uefa yet no players are bitching about leaving.
>> Anonymous
>>129518
lol mercenaries

welcome to the wonderful world of modern football.

as long as the player gives his best for my team, I don't care if they are just playing for the money.
>> Anonymous
>>129521
If they come for the money you can be fucking sure theyre not gonna give their best.

Unless they are Zidane, which they are not.
>> Anonymous
>>129506

For the Brazilians, Argentines and Portuguese it's probably a culture thing, it's much more easier for them to adapt to the Spanish lifestyle.

And in their respective countries spanish football as probably got much a much bigger following than english football. So for them, to play for Real or Barça is has big has you can get in football.
>> Anonymous
Not just weather, the lifestyle is more relaxed and generally better in Spain.

Although I suppose if you're a multi-millionaire footballer, you can have a good lifestyle wherever you are.
>> Heynonnynonnymous
It's probably the same reason why some of the bigger Japanese baseballers want to shoot for teams like the Yankees and Dodgers. Heritage, mostly.
>> Anonymous
Because the La Liga is a lazy league. Its easy football. Its not as competitive or fast paced as the Premiership. Henry and Van Nistelrooy are past their prime and want to slow down.
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>>129526
>the lifestyle is more relaxed and generally better in Spain.

Real Madrid's training camp is swamped by 1000+ fans and 100+ journalists EVERY DAY.

Although its rumoured most of the Real team turn up to training drunk so yeah, more relaxed.
>> Anonymous
Why do people still call it the ENGLISH Premier League? There are no English players, no English managers, the teams are owned by Amerifags and Russiafags, and all their fans are Asians?
>> Anonymous
>>129587
wat?
>> Anonymous
Players go to LaLiga, because they want to play real football. If they're not good enough, they then leave to Britland, where anyone can be good(Torres, Cesc, CRonaldo(Portugal is just a shit version of Spain)).
>> Anonymous
>>129592
oh really... when was the last time Spain reached World Cup semifinal?
>> Anonymous
>>129593
We're talking about leagues you faggot, not national teams. And a Britfag should just keep quiet anyway, you can't even qualify for EURO.
>> Anonymous
A league isn't awesome, when a rule like 6+5 would completely destroy it and make it about as good as the Swiss League.
>> Anonymous
>>129594Portugal is just a shit version of Spain

And fyi, I'm no fucking britfag.
>> Anonymous
>>129595
Not really, most teams field about 3 or 4 English players and Man United fielded 5 in their champions league winning side.
>> Anonymous
The EPL is the best league in the world because it has the worlds best players, best teams and best fans.

You go to some dick infested shit hole like italy and you have the english outcasts, eg: mourinho and faggot fans who kill each other instead of watching the game.

Spain is just boring as hell, jesus if you see more than 2 goals you're seeing something amazing! IT's passing the ball in a circle for 30 minutes and doing shit tricks... Man united raped barcelona because they played football not prance around like faggots. ( I'm an evertonian not a manc btw ).

EPL is the best and always will be because it's actually INTERESTING.
>> Anonymous
>>129592
>>129596
HAHAHA espanhol do caralho!

Everyone knows that Portuguese league sucks ass, but their national team is still 10x better than that of the Spainfags.
>> Anonymous
>>129604
Agree with you totally apart from
>if you see more than 2 goals you're seeing something amazing!
Almost on a weekly basis one of the decent teams just decides it doesn't need to play well to get this weeks paycheck, due to bad attitude, bad managers or its just too hot for the poor fellows on 100k a week. I remember seeing Athletico Madrid (Spanish Everton, Villa, Tottenham) losing 6-4 to the Spanish equivalent of Fulham. Defence just couldn't be bothered.
>> Anonymous
Italy isn't a real league.
Spain is ok for violence and entertainment, if you like 2+ red cards per match.
EPL - regardless of the lack of English, it is the most exciting league in the world, perfect balance of attacking teams and hard defense.
>> Anonymous
>>129604
>The EPL is the best league in the world because it has the worlds best players, best teams and best fans.

omg. it's a fucking dump of a country, all the people look and eat like pigs. the weather is shit and each person trys to be stupider and louder than the next. you sold out your league to russians and americans and you think that you can call it your own? at least in spain and italy the big clubs are owned by natives or the fans themselves.

for proof, just look at britfags posts on /sp/. the scum of europe.
>> Anonymous
BEST FANS? Are you fucking insane? Britfags (with the sole exception of Celticfags) are THE worst fans on the planet. Worse than Amerifags, worse than SouthAmerifags and worse than fucking Chinafags. The only people who think otherwise, are Britfags. Just like they're the only one who think their league isn't complete shit.
>> Anonymous
I watch the greek league, because i'm greek, and it sucks compared to everyone elses, but you know, team supporting.

The english league is great because of excellent coaches like ferguson, young players and africans. Arsenal plays the most beautiful soccer in the world.
>> Anonymous
>>129635
>>129667
He has a good point.
The EPL is much more interesting to watch than La Liga. They may have sold their league and soul to Russian oil barons and multinational corporations, but the Spanish are on track to doing the same anyway.

It's like Japanese baseballers going to American teams. The environment is more competitive there, and since there's a larger population in most European countries than in Argentina (thus a greater number of viewevers and revenue), the teams are willing to pay *much* more money for players. And players simply go where the money is at. Simply put, Europe is the spotlight of football, both in terms of money and viewevers, and players want to be in the spotlight.
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The EPL is a fucking circus for inbred british peasant retards. That's why it makes so much money for it's foreign owners, because you stupid britfag fucks can't buy enough tacky bullshit in the gift shops and don't complain when you have to subscribe to a sports channel to watch your team.

When players want to play some real football, they go to Spain or Italy or fucking Turkey even. But britfags are too stupid to realize this because they have the Sky Sports propaganda machine ramming bullshit about the EPL being the envy of Europe down your throats constantly.
>> Anonymous
>>129683
>but the Spanish are on track to doing the same anyway.

Where are you getting this from?
>> Anonymous
>>129678

"and africans"

what ?

"Arsenal plays the most beautiful soccer in the world."

soccer ?
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>>129506
>neither team has been good in 4 years

didn't you see barça winning the champions league in 2005 or what, you faggot?

also la liga is better because it is more competitive than the premier league. any team can win any team. maybe the last in the competition can play well against some of the top contenders in the season and even win. on the premier there is a lot of diference between the big four and the rest of the teams (OK, probably this season everton and man. city made a lot of good games). That 'if you see more of 2 goals is miracle' is bullshit. there are a lot of goals in the two leagues. I watched both seasons (la liga and premier) and enyojed them but if I have to choose, I choose La Liga, I find it more entertaining overall. Btw, real madrid and barça doesn't deserve all the press they get worldwide. there's a shitload of teams that made really nice football last season in spain: almeria, villareal, atletico de madrid, sevilla, racing, mallorca, depor (say, like, last half of the season)

TL;DR: La Liga > Premier

Also, bow down to next year's champions league winners

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>> Anonymous
>>129678
>Arsenal plays the most beautiful soccer in the world

lol no. Try Barcelona. The only player Arsenal have that plays the game as beautifully as Messi is Hleb, and he's as good as gone.
>> Anonymous
Oh hey look, arguements about which league is better. Leave it to the idiots on 4chan. Most of the higher leagues in the world are about the same, and comparing leagues like La Liga and the Premier legaue is useless, because in general, the style of football in each league are completely different. Another thing is, one league can actually be won by the underdogs on a somewhat consistent basis. Saying one league is better just because of that point is pretty sad, but god forbid someone stop people thinking like idiots on 4chan.

In my opinion, every top flight league is good in one way or another, but all are so different, comparing them even enough to tell which is "better" in your useless opinion is much like comparing a truck to a compact car. So how about we leave it at "Both are good, but play such different styles of football, neither can be considered better outside of personal opinion."

Now i'm going to go back to having nothing to watch on television.
>> Anonymous
Good lord this thread has been invaded by fuckin greasy Spaniards.
>>129684
This man/boy has never been to England. English fans buy nothing except a shirt once a year and burgers at games. This is all. We think twice before buying a scarf. If anything its the 10 year old boys around the world wearing Zidane or Ronaldo RM shirts because there shithole of a country gets newspapers 5 years too late.
>>129714
Any team beating any team is not a show of strength on the smaller teams side, its a petulant attitude and lazyness by the big teams. Zambrotta's pass in the CL semi for example. Straight to Scholes feet, and he punished Barca. Cannavaro against Bayern year before, he just fell asleep as Makaay scored the faster CL goal ever.
>>129734
Arsenal don't play beautiful football and neither do Barca. They play arrogantly and without strength as they have shown folding against bigger teams.

Fuck sake. Fucking spanish. Manchester United are easily the best footballing team in the world. If Ronaldo leave's, we'll spend the cash and then still be the best. Ferguson is the best manager ever to graced a stadium.

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>> Anonymous
>>129765
>>129765
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>>129765
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>> Anonymous
IIT: Britfags w/ short memories

>Neither team has been good in 4 years.

Barça was the w/o question the best team in the world 2 years ago faganon.


English football is fucking mindless game, THAT'S why they leave. They take your GBP and fuck off to play the beautiful game elsewhere.
>> Anonymous
>>129765

Even the dumbfuck amerifags on /sp/ make you brits look extra retarded. There's no debate or argument - you just shout the name of your shitty team or country over and over until everyone gets bored and fucks off to /b/. And who are you calling greasy you fat fish and chips gobbling fuck? Don't bother attacking someone elses culture if you have none of your own - looks pathetic.
>> Anonymous
>>129809

Wait america has culture and britain doesn't?

This isn't even retarded anymore this is dire, cowboys and hamburgers is america's culture. Whereas britain has at least 12 different aspects of culture in each nation alone...

FUCKING AMERICAN FAGGOTS WHO KNOW FUCK ALL ABOUT THEIR WORLD OUTSIDE THEIR BEDROOMS!
>> Anonymous
>>129852

what are you talking about, you totally misread that. there's no amerifags on this thread.
>> Anonymous
>>129852
>Wait america has culture and britain doesn't?

Who the fuck said that? Are you illiterate as well as fat and ugly?
>> Anonymous
It's all to do with Work Permits and such, it's really difficult for non-EU players to gain work permits in the UK and they get accelerated access to Spanish citizenship if they're from Mexico/South America etc. Plus they already speak Spanish and it's easier to adapt to diving football like in La Liga am i RITE LOL
>> Anonymous
Same reason why any player moves to another country, so they can win different cups and trophies, play different teams.

Take Ronaldo. Personally I think Ronaldo might stay one more season so he can "win it all" with United, that is everything he can win with United (which this season means the FA Cup, UEFA Super Cup, and the Club World Cup that he hasn't already won) after that he's done everything he could do with an English team without dropping a league. So he'll go Spain, once he's done the same there I imagine he'll go Italy, and maybe end his career back home.
>> Anonymous
>>129899

>it's really difficult for non-EU players to gain work permits in the UK and they get accelerated access to Spanish citizenship if they're from Mexico/South America etc.

No.
>> Anonymous
>>129809
>you just shout the name of your shitty team or country over and over until everyone gets bored and fucks off to /b/

I'm not suprised you said /b/.

>>129852Very nice 10/10

>>129912Nope, his career with nose dive once he joins Real. Name me one player that has improved after joining Madrid.
>> Anonymous
>>129918
>Nope, his career with nose dive once he joins Real. Name me one player that has improved after joining Madrid.
Like that's stopped AC before.
>> Anonymous
>>129916
actually he's right
>> Anonymous
>>129928
No, he's wrong.

If citizenship was the issue, then players like Messi, Coloccini or Milito would end up in Italy, not Spain, as they qualify for Italian citizenship, not Spanish. Likewise, Brazilians have no ties whatsoever to Spain, and they are not given any "special privileges" either.

The real reasons are here>>129531>>129524>>129683
>> Anonymous
>>129932
except you can work in any EU country with an italian passport dumbass and la liga is a better league currently than serie a
>> Anonymous
>>129932
then how did ronaldinho qualify for spanish citizenship after 3 years despite the fact he's brazilian?
>> Anonymous
i just love /sp/ bcause there are;
eurofags vs amurikkafags
EPL vs La Liga (not give a damn to shithole liek serie A)
MUfags vs Chelseafags (lol stupid Terry-chan)
anyway, conclusions are
EPL > La Liga > LIGA DJARUM > serie A > your mom
>> Anonymous
>>129918

Sergio Ramos.
You're welcome.
>> Anonymous
>>129932
lol this fag ran off after he was proved wrong
>> Anonymous
>>129954
Which does not explain why they are in Spain and not in the UK. Thanks for proving my point, retard, the UK also gives work permits to people with an EU citizenship.

>>129956
>then how did ronaldinho qualify for spanish citizenship after 3 years despite the fact he's brazilian?
>after 3 years
>3 years
There's your answer.

>>130071
Hurrr, durrr
I have a life, idiot
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I shall settle this:

England is foreigners mindlessly running for 90 minutes
Spain is horizontal passing for 90 minutes
Italy is defending for 90 minutes

Germany is a party, and the Bundesliga is the greatest

Highest scoring league among the top 4 in europe for more than 10 years running this season.

Highest average stadium attendances

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V2qjsX7SAI
>> Anonymous
>>130082
see
>>129762

There is no "greatest league." Go back to bed.

You proved that by saying how different all the leagues are. Stop comparing trucks and compact cars, /football/, focus efforts on trolling amerifags, not each other.
>> Anonymous
>>130080
takes 10 years of residency for spanish citizenship normally retard
>> Anonymous
>>130080srs bsns

has a life lol
>> Anonymous
>>130086
Nope.

>3. Ibero-Americans and citizens of other countries historically related to Spain (Portugal, Andorra, Philippines, and Equatorial Guinea) also have a Right of Return: They can apply to Spanish nationality after 2 years of Legal residence (the usual time is 10 years for most foreigners) and they have the right to keep their birth nationality.

Brazil is considered a part of Ibero-America, he can claim citizenship with only two years of residence.
>> Anonymous
>>130086
This is true, see Samuel Eto
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>>130085
we know. if there wasn't any useless shit to argue about, there wouldn't be a 4chan

oh and its 5pm where I live
>> Anonymous
>>130090
so why were you pulling turds out of your ass saying because he's from brazil he doesn't get "special privileges"
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Oh hi guys
>> Anonymous
>>130096
Good point. I just learned that.

Well, he has EU citizenship now.
Why isn't he playing in the EPL, then?
>> Anonymous
>>130102
because ronaldinho only just gained it and is now considered a fat useless has-been?
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>>130102
because the weather sucks, he doesn't speak the language, and he doesn't want his knees broken by the thug defenders of mid/bottom table england
>> Anonymous
Only retarded Americans and Britfags think the PL is the best in the world (and maybe Asians), but neither of them know shit about Football.

The best players go to Spain and Italy because La Liga and Serie A are the best leagues in the world. You go there to test how good of a player you are, you go to England to get paid for doing nothing.

Every team outside of the top four in England is shit. Four teams do not make an entire league unless you're an American who couldn't name a team outside of the top four anyway.

So enjoy your money, foreign overlords and boring football. Spain and Italy will take all the good players, thanks.
>> Anonymous
>>130105
10/10 trolling and good points aside, all of those leagues are collectively the best in the world. Also, you forgot the bundesliga.
>> Anonymous
>>130110

No he didn't, the Bundeslinga sucks.
>> Anonymous
>>130111
>Bundeslinga

Does it now? Glad I was here to see that expert opinion.
>> Anonymous
The quality of play is better in Spain than in England. It's not as fast paced or as exciting, but this beautiful flowing passing everyone raves about Arsenal doing you'll see going on in 6 or 7 matches in Spain on any given week during the season. Teams like Chelsea, Liverpool, and Everton win week in and week out putting 10 players behind the ball. The Prem is basically an exercise in counterattacking.

If you're a quality player and looking for a purist's game, you'll play in La Liga.
>> Anonymous
bundeslinga is a german sex technique
>> Anonymous
>>130114

I am a qualified Internet Armchair Expert and I'm telling you the Bundesliga sucks.
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>>130116
>Bundeslinga: (n) the act of getting your genitals orally fellated by Franck Ribery
>> Anonymous
>>130105

Serie A has really just picked up with the resurgence of Fiorentina and Juve coming back. Even last year and the year before were very defensive and boring.
>> Anonymous
>>129714
lol patetico de madrid.
>> Anonymous
>>129918
Robinho. Durr hurrrrr.

>>130129
NO ME JODAS TIO, NO ME JODAS
>> Anonymous
>>129506
Most spanish and brazilian players go to La Liga/Serie A just because of the playing style. In Spain and Italy they play the ball to feet (most of the time) which is the traditional south american playing style. In England they always go to stupid shit. LOL CROSS FOR THE HEADER!!!!!!!, KICK THAT BALL FUCKING HIGH SO YOU DONT HAVE TO PASS OR RUN WITH IT!!!!!!!!! PLAY DEFENSIVE AND GO FOR THE COUNTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111111.

Tevez only went to ManU cause he didnt want to be on Corinthians
>> Anonymous
>>130119
I'm telling you your opinion has about as much value as the american dollar right now, which they're considering renaming the penny.
>> Anonymous
>>129610

Portugal national team is filled with nationalized brazilians like Deco or "Pepe",,,

Also you have gypsies (the shit on earth) like Quaresma or C. Ronaldo.
>> Anonymous
Spain have a shitty nationalized black and an argentinian player 'cause they have been accused of racism. They are only to maintain the political correct attitude imposed by Jewnglish morons.

Anyway, this is Barcelona Team pissing with authority on typical English team, playing typical English "school playground" football.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=BDJTJjxAwGM