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Anonymous
Great Team or Greatest Team?
>> Anonymous
>>22121
brb, going 2 baltimore.
>> Anonymous
/cle/ is now a meme. accept it.
>> Anonymous
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SUPERIOR

also why the FUCK are we talking about the NFL in March.
>> Anonymous
>>22147

WTF do you wanna talk about. So sad that NO had a worse record than CLE last season
>> Anonymous
shit team is shit colored
>> Anonymous
>>22137
no, it isn't.
>> Anonymous
>>22154

I'm sorry when was the last time your niggers made it to a conference title game?
>> Anonymous
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Teams that have actually appeared in a Super Bowl; Cowboys, Steelers, Packers, 49ers, Bears, Giants, Redskins, Patriots, Raiders, Colts, Dolphins, Broncos, Rams, Jets, Chiefs, Eagles, Ravens, Vikings, Buccaneers, Titans, Bills, Chargers, Bengals, Seahawks, Panthers
and even the shittiest team in all of shitville the muthafucking Falcons.

DON'T SEE THE BROWNS ANYWHERE BUT THE BOTTOM OF MY TOILET
>> Anonymous
>>22173

At least the Saints have the whole "loveable losers" thing going for them.
>> Anonymous
>>22173

But we won 4 times when it wasnt called the superbowl.. ok nice try
>> Anonymous
>>22177

Every team can fall back on that gay shit. Even the Vikings technically won an NFL Championship.
>> Anonymous
>>22177

THAT NOT AN EQUIVALENT ACCOMPLISHMENT

BESIDES, IT WAS FIFTY FUCKING YEARS AGO
>> Anonymous
>>22177
>won 4 times
>wasnt the superbowl
>> Anonymous
>>22177
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAA

keep telling yourself that as you cry yourself to sleep jerkoff
>> Anonymous
>>22121
Maybe if Jim Brown was still playing.
>> Anonymous
>>22177
that team moved to baltimore. and dont try the whole "but the records didnt move to baltimore with them." they did, faggot.
>> Anonymous
>>22184
>won 4 times
>wasnt the superbowl

this point cannot be reiterated enough. Everybody knows that America's team is the Arizona Cardinals.
>> Anonymous
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A Challenger Appears...

am i doin it rite?
>> Anonymous
>>22190
LOL, Tim Couch is greatest Browns passer evah.
>> Anonymous
>>22196
at 1:26am I was fuck Trent Green!
>> Anonymous
>>22190
Hey, shit head, they stayed in Cleveland, its a fact accept it loser. Superbowl or not the Cleveland Browns are one of the most storied franchises in sports. Sorry faggot. The Bucs won a Superbowl but who gives a fuck?
>> Anonymous
>>22233
theyre perennial losers
like the cards or the lions or the saints
people see them on their schedule and dont think twice about them
>> Anonymous
>>22236

don't you fucking dare mention the browns in the same sentence as my Saints.

It sickens me.
>> Anonymous
I mean, at least we have a fucking LOGO.
>> Anonymous
>>22239
The saints are one of the worst franchises in the history of sports faggot.
>> Anonymous
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Seriously guys, I like the Browns.
>> Anonymous
>>22241

Yes, that's the joke Ted.
>> Anonymous
Cleveland fans are such homers. lol
>> Anonymous
>>22236
Your a complete idiot. Every team goes through dry spells. Remember the Patriots before 2001? or the Colts before Manning? STFU, it is just how sport teams are. In the last 30 years the Browns have been one of the better teams

learn2knowfootballhistory fucktard
>> Anonymous
>>22239
lmao the Saints have one a total of 2 playoff games in there history. lol you fail as does your sunken city.
>> Anonymous
>>22233
lol the Dog Pound is for fat males maried to obese women so they fuck dogs, hence Dog *pound*, also, 45% of Clevelanders have yet to defray the costs of of their Tim Couch jersey from the last century.

Also, at least the Cardinals beat the Cowboys in what was it ? the '96 playoffs, cementing their place as Americas Team, of being the first of at least 5 teams to beat the Cowboys in playoff games after their last Super bowl EVAH. (Sorry, im talking about playoffs Brownsfan, tune me out while putting that Brady Quinn jersey on layway.) What the Diamondbacks were to the Yankees, the Cards are to the Cowboys. We are waiting to cockblock you from champeenships.
>> Anonymous
>>22254
ATLANTIS!?
>> Anonymous
>>22258
more like SHAT-lantis OH SCHNAPPPPPP!!!!
>> Anonymous
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>>22256
lol "fucking dogs"? grow the fuck up... Your statement has nothing to do with anything. No one but front running faggots like the Boys' and only incredible failures at life are Cardinal fans.
>> Anonymous
>>22269

I tuned out what you were saying because of your stupid fucking image macro.

Seriously go post it on your livejournal or something.
>> Anonymous
Most people in Cleveland root for the Bengals or Steelers.

True fact.
>> Anonymous
America's Team. What does that even mean?
Sounds like something a douchebag would call his team.
>> Anonymous
>>22272
Still less gay the A GOD DAM FUCKING CARDINAL
>> Anonymous
hey fellow /cle/velanders.

if you want sum good browns discussion go to the boards at dawgtalkers.net, a community of about 1000 browns fans that, for the most part, really know what they're talking about.
>> Anonymous
>>22272
GTFO 4 chan newfag
>> Anonymous
>>22269
no the greatest failures in life are those who cannot leave Cleveland and stay. The funniest masochists are those who can leave C(leave)land and stay.

I sense someone who still owes $177 on their Brady Quinn jersey, PROTIP- pay moar than the minimum balance and the number goes the opposite of up. Oh, and I am giving that advice to a "winner".
>> Anonymous
>>22282


only newfags like lolcats.
>> Anonymous
>>22281
Thats true, but I remember when the Patriots got Moss, other teams had there good signing they wouldint stfu about it
>> Anonymous
>>22285
only a newfag would day that...we could do this all day lol
>> Anonymous
>>22292
say*
>> Anonymous
>>22283
No I got a Kosar and Winslow jersey and live in Ft. Lauderdale, but nice try
>> Anonymous
>>22297
are you from cleveland though?
>> Anonymous
>>22297
Yea I was born there and lived there till I went to UM and just decided to stay after I graduated
>> Anonymous
>>22309
thats cool, but it seems to me that before this past season, the only fans of the browns were in cleveland/from cleveland.
all these bandwagoners really irritate me
>> Anonymous
>>22182

if you're going to start that bullshit, you need to gtfo my /sp/

when the packers won super bowl I was it a greater accomplishment than when the browns won the championship two years prior? you really need to lrn2/history.

also,
>>22186
>>22184
>>22182
>>22180

same god damn fag.
>> Anonymous
>>22318
lol and good point, sir
>> Anonymous
>>22318
but even browns fans have to admit that celebrating championships from 50 years is pretty lame, especially since most(all) people on /sp/ werent around to witness it
>> Anonymous
>>22318

Dumbass, they won the nfl championship that year IN ADDITION to the superbowl.
>> Anonymous
>>22317
Your right there is a lot of bandwaging mother fuckers, and it gives true fans a bad name. I dont care how much of a homer someone is, if there loyal to there sports teams through the good and the bad that awesome, and you really appreciate when they do win after losing for years. The one jeresy I had and really regretted
gettin was William Green though. Donated that shit.
>> Anonymous
>>22335

what the fuck did you just say?
>> Anonymous
>>22318
>when the packers won super bowl I was it a greater accomplishment than when the browns won the championship two years prior? you really need to lrn2/history.

yes, it was an greater accomplishment. Browns won games against half of pro teams, then there was a merger and Super Bowls and that is al that matters, hence Paul and Jim Brown are utterly unimportant in history, also Otto Graham. Don't matter, the and matter less with each passing year.

same god damn fag.
>> Anonymous
>>22324

i realize this, but the business of listing teams that have won a "super bowl" is especially lame. if the browns are considered garbage for not winning a championship in the amount of time that 4chan's main demographic has been sports fans (approx 15 years, give or take), wouldn't that mean the same for the majority of nfl teams?
>> Anonymous
>>22324
Its not like we have a parade every sunday to celebrate the great Otto Graham and those teams. But when people start insulting saying they never did shit, that is not true, and you gotta defend.
Say th Patriots never go back to another playoff
for 30 years. Guarantee they will still celebrate.
>> Anonymous
http://www.nfl.com/superbowl/history

Nope, don't see the Browns on there anywhere.
>> Anonymous
>>22345

okay, I'll give you that.

But assuming you're the OP you just brought this all on yourself.
>> Anonymous
>>22340
>i realize this, but the business of listing teams that have won a "super bowl" is especially lame. if the browns are considered garbage for not winning a championship in the amount of time that 4chan's main demographic has been sports fans (approx 15 years, give or take), wouldn't that mean the same for the majority of nfl teams?

uh, the super bowls have long since passed the XV and are far moar close to L. LEARN TO COUNT, FAG, AND OTTO GRAHAM STILL SUCKED.
>> Anonymous
>>22339
learn2read
>> Anonymous
>>22347
Im not the OP i just got home from the UFC fight at Bru's Room and see a giant helmet.
>> Anonymous
>>22348
Yea Otto Graham sucked....hes in the fuckin HoF
>> Anonymous
Verdict: The Browns fucking suck.

>>22318

Not samefag. I can vouch that I was one different person in that barrage. I was the Vikesfag.
>> Anonymous
>>22345
yes, im sure people will celebrate, but id hope that it would be the people that were around 30 years prior to see the pats win those superbowls. im saying that celebrating the browns success from the 50s is weird if you werent even around to witness it
>> Anonymous
Also, Browns ARE garbage. Have been for almost half of a century. How is that woking out for you Clevelander of NO champeenchips?
>> Anonymous
>>22366
I dont "celebrate" it. I thought we where having a
discussion about football history, and knew some shit before I was born that was relevant.
>> Anonymous
>>22348

i know there have been more than 15 super bowls, retard. i was just responding to the fact that he said celebrating a 50 year old championship was "lame" and inquiring about how long is an appropriate time to celebrate a championship. considering he implied that when because we at /sp/ "weren't around to witness it" it is lame to celebrate, that would mean only championships won during our time would be worth celebrating. since the average age of a 4chan user is low-mid 20's, i estimated the effective sports memory of the average user to be around 15 years.

lrn2/comprehension.
>> Anonymous
>>22373
Im sorry you must have been born after the 80s. Plz GTFO and stop pretending you know things. The only thing that sucked for the Browns was John Elway. But Im going to assume you dont know who that was (he was like tom brady) does that help?
>> Anonymous
>>22375
>considering he implied that when because we at /sp/

-when
>> Anonymous
>>22364
Well will see this year. Oh have fun with Adrian Peterson have 1,700 yards with 5 wins.
>> Anonymous
>>22387

Terrible shot is terrible. We won 8 games this season. Peterson is a fine contributer but we won games without him. Get over yourself.
>> Anonymous
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>>22422

How do I threw ball?
>> Anonymous
>>22429

8-3 as a starter. I'm not complaining. He's a developing QB who showed great improvement as the year went on.

On top of that, name ONE good receiver he had in the backfield. Bobby Wade was the best we had, and he could barely do shit. With the signing of Bernard Berrian, I expect some great things from Jackson next season.

Have fun with Brady Quinn or whoever the fuck you're starting since you resigned Andersen.
>> Anonymous
>>22275
thanks for pointing that out. i seriously had never realized that ohio......FUCKING OHIO.. has two football teams. california has zero......we fail!
i was born in los angeles but we have no football team. im a huge bears fan because my whole family used to live in chicago so yeah....
>> Anonymous
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>>22379
lol Brian Sipe.

Shit, Browns fan is so deluded. Makes KC Chiefs fan look enlightened, at least Len Dawson is way younger than Otto Graham and the Chiefs sniffed at a Super Bowl Victory.

Even the Bengals have competed in a world champeenship in the Super Bowl era.

Vince Ferragamo LAFFS AT YOU.
>> Anonymous
>>22446

hahahaha you dumbfuck
>> Anonymous
>>22449

wut
>> Anonymous
>>22448

o hai jim rome.
>> Anonymous
>>22449
well dude. considering what this thread is about, can you blame me for fogetting the browns..hahaha
so in saying that let me rephrase.
i failed to care whether ohio has two football teams
>> Anonymous
>>22439

terrible throwing mechanics takes way to long to throw the ball, makes lots of poor decisions. No decent recievers yeah I will give you that, but teams are playing the run all the time against the vikings so there should nearly always be someone open when they pass the ball. The guy is not good enough to be a starter in the NFL a career backup QB imo.

That being said I still like the vikes chances for next season, solid D line giving them the best run defence in the league, gave up lots of passing yards but im guessing they had more pass attempts against them then any other team. Peterson will be back to full health so should be gettin lots of yards, the key is him staying healthy
>> Anonymous
>>22483

Jackson did show terrible mechanics from time to time. Especially in the 2nd Bears game. He needs to learn that it's sometimes ok to take a sack rather than just throw it and hope someone catches it.

If he improves this year, I say keep him. If he fucks up, we better move on.
>> Anonymous
>>22449
yea, he's a retard
>> Anonymous
>>22482

YOU FUCKING DUMBASS

CAL HAS THREE (3) NFL TEAMS
>> Anonymous
i meant LA nigger
>> Anonymous
>>22527
you said cal you douche
>> Anonymous
>>22505
As does New York and Florida. Your point?
>> Anonymous
>>22439
Wow your a fucking idiot. You answered your own shit, Anderson is starting. Have a good season with Jackson, and getting killed by every team in your division.
>> Anonymous
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Is every single person in Cleveland as dumb as this troll? No wonder the fucking Browns suck.
>> Anonymous
>>22893
facepalm.jpg
>> Anonymous
Just wait until the Browns win the division next year and make the playoffs.
>> Anonymous
/cle/
>> Anonymous
>>22910
/cle/ is a meme. If it isn't, then neither is VC. Actually, VC isn't either way, it's just gay.
>> Anonymous
RISE UP, /cle/
>> Anonymous
/cle/ aint a meme
cavs suck
indians are racist and suck
columbus got an nhl team before you
the glory browns moved to baltimore, and your helmet color is orange and youre supposed to be the browns

soz.
>> Anonymous
>>22961
All of cleveland's records moved with the team to baltimore, just as all of baltimore colt records moved with them to indy.

Deal with it, faggots.
>> Anonymous
"/cle/ aint a meme" is now a meme.
>> Anonymous
fuck yeah, jamal lewis
>> Anonymous
>>22966
Uh no they didn't. Officially, as in, the NFL agrees, all of the Browns' records stays in Cleveland. Officially, the Ravens are the expansion team and the Browns were "on hiatus" for 3 years.

If you don't believe me, look it up yourself.
>> Anonymous
>>23001
lol just because the nfl gave into your shitty ass whining doesn't make it true. Those records belong to Baltimore, whether you like it or not.

Enjoy having Tim Couch as your only quarterback to lead you to the playoffs!!
>> Anonymous
>>23005

-9001/10
>> Anonymous
>>23005
lol whut?
>> Anonymous
>>23008
It's not trolling. What fucking sports team goes on a hiatus? That's right, it doesn't. Your team got moved, and the record went with it. Jesus fucking christ just deal with it, clevefag. You still got Lebron!!
>> Anonymous
>>23011

-9001/10
>> Anonymous
>>22891

*You're. Dumbass.

We beat the Bears twice, and the Lions once. The only team we got raped by was the Packers, who were on a huge roll.

So fuck off and learn your shit. Sorry I don't know about who the Browns are starting. Especially since I really don't care.
>> Anonymous
>>23013
Lol Clevefag who can't accept the truth. BAWWWWWWWWWWW
>> Anonymous
>>There would be a new team, but the Browns' name, colors, history, records, awards and archives would remain in Cleveland.

you dumbasses.
>> Anonymous
>>23019
The NFL only made that to stop you fucking losers in clevelands from bitching anymore. The colts records move to Indy. In other sports, the Dodgers and Giants records moved with them to Cali.

But keep bawing, it makes me laugh.
>> Anonymous
Jim Brown - Great or Greatest runningback in Ravens' history?
>> Anonymous
>>23019
Please give me another example of this rule applying to any other city that had its team relocated. That will stop the other posters.
>> Anonymous
>>23015

He's right, the other teams in the division, save the Packers, are even shittier than the Vikes!
>> Anonymous
>>22897

The sad part is, because Pittsburgh has to play the Colts, Jags, Cowboys, Patriots, Chargers, and Giants, they have a chance.

Cleveland's website says they've signed Stallworth.
>> Anonymous
>>23028

There isn't. It applies specifically to the Browns, in response to rioting Browns fans in the mid nineties.
>> Anonymous
Browns - Greatest Team
Cavs - Great Team
Indians - Great team
Gladiators - Soon to be Greatest Team
City Stars - Great Team

Basically Cleveland = THE SHIT!
>> Anonymous
>>23123
Basically Cleveland = SHIT!
>> Anonymous
>>23033
browns and everyone else in the division have to play all those same teams minus the patriots and the chargers
i think the best record in the afc north will only be a 9-7
>> Anonymous
I love all you bandwagoners who decided to just love the Browns after their mediocre sucess

btw you are all forgetting OHIO STATE AND THEIR FAIL.
>> Anonymous
>>23132

But the Browns get to play Denver and Buffalo.

Point still stands, if the Browns with the AFC North, it'll be because they played "easier" teams...even if it is just a difference of two games.

But this is assuming Pittsburgh will play as poorly as they did this past season.
>> Anonymous
>>23141
What has Pittsburgh done to improve the team? They're letting guys like Faneca walk while they... sign nobody.
>> Lambchop's Death Legion
>>23146

try to make sure Willie Parker doesn't get injured again.
>> Anonymous
>>23134

Support factors (NFL medians in parentheses)
Overall support rank of 32 teams: 1
Average attendance: 72,868 (63,808)
Percent of capacity: 99.8% (94.7%)
Attendance fluctuation: 0.8 points (12.7 points)
Difficulty factors (NFL medians in parentheses)
Overall difficulty rank of 32 teams: 1
Winning percentage: .321 (.500)
Market population: 4.7 million (4.5 million)
Per capita income: $30,998 ($33,635)
December high temperature: 38 degrees (52 degrees)

All figures are 10-year averages (1996-2005) unless noted.
>> Anonymous
>>23141
>>But the Browns get to play Denver and Buffalo.
knowing the browns, theyll manage to screw these up, especially if they need to win them to get into the playoffs
>>23146
its called the draft. if free agency was so great, the redskins would be an nfl dynasty
>>23148
najeh played admirably without him
>> Anonymous
>>23150
lulz
sure, brownsfag, sure
>> Anonymous
>>23146

Pittsburgh doesn't have to "improve" their player base to win the AFC North. As soon as Bruce Arians realizes Pittsburgh wasn't built to be a throwing offense, the Steelers will be much more consistent concerning scoring.

Oh, and never letting Anthony Smith onto the field ever again.
>> Anonymous
>>23146
what did they do before the 2007 season? pretty much nothing, and they still managed to kick the browns ass
>> Anonymous
>>23173

we'll beat the hateriots, i guarantee it
>> Anonymous
>>23168
http://www.bizjournals.com/specials/slideshow/13.html
>> Lambchop's Death Legion
>>23162

i thought they let davenport go?
>> Anonymous
>>23183
what a fool i have been! i mean, look at the source, BIZJOURNALS! is there any greater source for this kind of information than BIZJOURNALS! well, this proves it once and for all, the browns are in fact the greatest team in all the nfl, NAY, of all sports! thank you BIZJOURNALS!!1!
>> Anonymous
>>23173
i would say the biggest problem was that big ben was underutilized at some points, not willie parker
>> Anonymous
>>23193

Underused? No. Misused? Possibly. It was Roethelisberger's first season throwing that much for the Steelers, so it might have been growing pains.

I'm really hoping he's learned from all those sacks he took last season to see more of the field and use those opportunities to step up and scramble for a few yards instead of just taking a hit for a loss.
>> Anonymous
>>23190

At least you have the balls to admit it.
>> Anonymous
Q: What do you call a Cleveland Brown with a Super Bowl ring?
A: A thief.

Q: Why doesn’t Columbus have a professional football team?
A: Because then Cleveland would want one.