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Anonymous
Do you guys think anything interesting is going to be on mma-tv tonight?

Pic related.
>> Anonymous
Fuck yeah Le Cung.
>> Anonymous
paper champion is paper!
>> Anonymous
I guess there's no Joe Son fans on right now.
>> Anonymous
>>48219

It's hard to get excited for a Cung Le fight when he never fights anybody decent.

I mean, FRANK SHAMROCK? The fucker who lost to Renzo Gracie last year?
>> Anonymous
lol @ Gary Shaw calling Frank Shamrock the best middleweight in the world

If Cung Le can get a few good flashy kicks in it should be a decent fight
>> Anonymous
Cung is going down.

Sorry, but that's just the way it is.
>> Anonymous
If Cung Le doesn't win in the first round, he sucks. If he loses to Frank, he should kill himself.
>> Anonymous
Cung Le getting owned by Frank. This is sad.
>> Anonymous
Frank broke his arm, weak.
>> Anonymous
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In one bizarre sequence in the first round, Frank Shamrock grabbed Cung Le from the back while he was in the middle of a spin kick. This is normally a very desirable position for a grappler like Frank, but Frank suspiciously allowed Cung Le escape without making a takedown attempt.

I don't want to sound like a nutbag conspiracy theorist, but it appears like Strikeforce offered extra incentives to Frank if he fought on his feet.
>> Anonymous
That came across as a phony fight.
>> Anonymous
>>48464
>>48466

Looks like some of the people at sherdog agree...

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=733703
>> Anonymous
>>48466

I say it's partially worked fight. Frank was seriously trying to knock Cung Le out. His punches were real.

But Frank made ZERO attempts to capitalize on Cung Le's mistakes and take him to the ground. He had three or four easy chances in the first 2 rounds to takedown Cung Le, but he backed off every time and allowed Le to recover.

I think Strikeforce paid Frank to fight only on his feet.
>> Anonymous
>>48478

>>I think Strikeforce paid Frank to fight only on his feet.

Or he was just arrogant as hell. Either way this fight is suspicious.
>> Anonymous
It's the Vietnam War all over again.

Cung Le owned Frank just like the viets owned America.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
>> Anonymous
>>48481

Vietnamese casualties: 1 million soldiers + 2 million civilians

American casualties: 60k soldiers + 0 civilians

Oh yeah, we really "lost" that war
>> Anonymous
Anyone calling that a work is a fucking moron, if anything Frank's arrogance got the best of him and he tried standing with a world class striker in Cung Le and ended up the butt end of his own joke. Granted I think a lot of Le's prowess stems from his unorthodox methods of striking since most MMA gyms just teach Muay Thai as traditionally it matches up best against grapplers. Too many people know jack and shit around here.
>> Anonymous
>>48488

I know jack and shit. Both think you're retarded.

World-class submission grappler with sucky striking doesn't try ONCE to get the fight to the ground.

Bullshit.
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>a world class striker in Cung Le
>> Anonymous
>>48492

You obviously know very little about MMA since Frank himself just like with Baroni, said he would stand with Le, as I said his arrogance got in his way. Thanks for trying to be witty though, we understand you're obviously butthurt.
>> Anonymous
>>48488

tru dat, franks a jackass, legend in his own right but an arrogent fucktard overall
>> Anonymous
>>48493

So being U.S. Team captain in the World Martial Arts Championships, winning medals in San Shou kick boxing world competition, representing team USA in world Wushu competition, and holding an undefeated K-1 record doesn't classify him as a world class striker? Maybe if he threw sloppy hay makers from a shitty boxing stance like Kimbo or Chuck did he'd float your boat?
>> Anonymous
>>48512

All of his previous accomplishments means nothing in the MMA world. A good MMA striker knows how to defend against grapplers, and Cung Le has never fought an opponent who tried to grapple with him. He's untested. Nobody knows if he's a "world class" MMA striker, yet.

Also, Chuck Liddel and Kimbo are shitty strikers. A world class MMA striker is someone like Anderson Silva.
>> Anonymous
Here is the Le/Shamrock fight on youtube, if anybody wants to see what the fuss is about. You'll notice several suspicious moments where Cung left himself vulnerable to a takedown, but Frank backed off instead of capitalizing.

Round 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV8ikCM6v-I

Round 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Glj-KEdtHKE

Round 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnGH5hhuLGE
>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
>>48544
Just watched it. Wtf is Frank Shamrock doing? He looks like a fool standing there trying to kick with Le Cung.
>> Anonymous
>>48571
>>Wtf is Frank Shamrock doing?

being arrogant
>> Anonymous
>>48469

OH MY SHIT SOME PEOPLE ON AN INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD SAY THE FIGHT WAS FIXED STOP THE FUCKING PRESSES
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You fucking conspiracy tards really are fucking dense.

Frank has said REPEATEDLY that he would fight Cung STANDING, and that he would only go the ground if Cung initiated it.
>> Anonymous
cung le is a good striker, but lacks KO power.

frank could have won if he had a better game plan. "i'm gonna stand with cung" was not a good one.
>> Anonymous
>>48464

when he took the back, cung was reversing it to a hip throw. frank felt it coming and backed off.
>> Anonymous
>>48656

BOOM HEADSHOT

sorry couldn't resist
>> Anonymous
>>48485
So what? The USSR lost 25+ million during WW2 and Germany lost.

The US lost the Vietnam War to peasants fighting with 1940-built rifles. But congrats on those kill stats, yeah, it must feel good to drop napalm bombs on defenseless wimmens and childrens .
>> Anonymous
>>49932

I like how he cites the "2 million civilians killed" statistic like it's something to be super proud of.
>> Anonymous
>>49970

Remember that the bulk of the forces on BOTH sides of the war were Vietnamese people. A most of those 2 million vietnamese civilian casualties were killed by your fellow vietnamese soldiers.
>> Anonymous
>>49974

The kill count retard doesn't understand that though. He probably just read some statistics on wikipedia and went "AMERICA FUCK YEAH WE KILLED 2 MILLION GUYS" then came on here to excitedly post about it.
>> Anonymous
In before "not a sport"
>> Anonymous
>>50101
killing civilans?