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Anonymous
hey /sp/artans,

why doesn't Anon hate casual football fans?
/v/ is a place for hardcore gamers, and hates casual gamers, so i figured /sp/ would hate casual fans who don't understand the game.

Don't you hate it when casuals pretend to know how good the players on your favorite team are?
I do.

ITT: hate on casual fans and rank the top players on your fav team.
>> Anonymous
There are no casual fans on /sp/. You've seen how slow this board moves, right? There's 4 anons, and 2 tripfags posting at any given time.

We go 7 months between GETs.
>> Anonymous
>casual fans who don't understand the game.

Like McNabb?
>> Anonymous
>>476611

1. Demarcus Ware
2. Tony Romo
3. Jay Ratliff
4. Witten
5. Terence Newman
6. Marion the Barbarian III
7. Flo Adams
8. Leonard Davis
9. T.O
10. Roy E. Williams
>> Anonymous
>>476617

WOW 10/10
>> Anonymous
>>476617

I DIDN'T NO DA GAEMS CULD ENDS IN A TIE!

Also /v/ sucks, nothing but fanboy wanking, kinda like /a/.
>> Anonymous
>>476611

1 Westbrook
2 Dawkins
3 Runyan
>> Anonymous
>>476619

you have penalty machine flozell adams ranked ahead of t.o?
>> Anonymous
>>476627

Dawkins looks old as fuck this year. It's sad, he's an animal and still the heart of Philly's defense.
>> Anonymous
>>476629
isnt flo like nearly deaf? hes still a good lineman
>> Anonymous
>>476629

Adams was a wall last year. Maybe the best in the league, honestly. He's capable of greatness

T.O. can't catch. I like him... but the guy has the worst hands i've ever seen on a WR. and i'm obviously a Boysfag.
>> Warriorsfag !mOntaR93q.
yes, i hate this, no i'm not ranking my shit team

1.gore
2. willis
that's the end of the list
>> Anonymous
1. Joe Nedney
2. Frank Gore
3. Patrick Willis
4. Andy Lee
5. Allen Rossum
6. Takeo Spikes
7. Isaac Bruce
8. Josh Morgan
9. Zak Keasey
10. Delanie Walker

Name another team with this much heart with this bad a record. Notice a QB does not appear on this list...
>> Anonymous
>>476636

lol
good stuff anon
>> Anonymous
>>476636
>>476638
49ermind
>> Anonymous
>>476636
Fuck you. You are the casualfag cancer OP was talking about.

Kindly gtfo my fanbase plz
>> Warriorsfag !mOntaR93q.
>>476643

0/10
>> Anonymous
1. John Abraham
2. Lawyer Milloy
3. Michael Turner
4. Keith Brooking
5. Jerious Norwood
6. Matt Ryan
7. Roddy White
8. Ovie Mughelli
>> Anonymous
>>476619
Barber at 6? He's the only reason your shit team is still in the playoff race
>> Anonymous
1: Joe Nedney
2: Andy Lee
3: Frank Gore
4: Allen Rossum
5: Patrick Willis
6: Vernon Davis (i dont care if he hasnt REALLY proven himself yet, the latent talent is obviously there)
7: Takeo Spikes
8: Isaac Bruce (old, but still a very very capable threat)
9: Nate Clements (again, the talent is OBVIOUSLY there)
10: Josh Morgan/Jason Hill (havent seen enough out of the both of them to really tell which one is going to be the better of the two)
>> Anonymous
Michael Turner
John Abraham
Roddy White
Jason Elam
Keith Brooking
Matt Ryan
Lawyer Milloy
Eric Coleman
Ovie Mughelli
Michael Jenkins
>> Anonymous
1. Matt Birk
2. Steve Hutchingson
3. Brian Mckinnie
4. Visanthe Shiancoe
5. Adrian Peterson
>> Anonymous
>>476699
DId you seriously just rank Visanthe Cheap Shot Shiancoe over AD?

I love the Vikes but I've hated Shiancoe since he played for the Giants. As bad as our TE situation would be without him, I've always hoped he would get a broken leg.
>> Anonymous
1. Drew Brees
2. J. Vilma
3. M. Colston
4. R. Bush
5. Mike McKenzie
6. D. McCallister
7. S. Fujita
8. S. Ellis
9. L. Moore
10. JASON DAVID
>> Sneak !!+y8MDiWrdyT
1. Jennings
2. Rodgers
3. Woodson
4. Hawk
5. Driver
6. Kampman
7. Grant
8. Bigby
9. Barnett [injured :(]
10. Harris
>> Anonymous
>>476677

casualfag
>> Paynus !!/014qPW4YJb
1. Matt Hasselbeck
2. Walter Jones
3. Lofa Tatupu
4. Bobby Engram
5. Leonard Weaver
6. Leroy Hill
7. Marcus Trufant
8. Julian Peterson
9. John Carlson
10. OWEN FUCKING SCHMITT
>> Chocolate Hitler !!WCFvcOo5Pka
1. Randy Moss
>> Anonymous
>>476749

i don't follow the Pack as well as you probably do,
but Bigby over Barnett and Harris?
>> Anonymous
>>476754
That list gets really bad after #3. Not how you ranked them, just the quality of players. God we fucking suck.
>> Anonymous
bump
>> Sneak !!+y8MDiWrdyT
>>476759

Yeah, switch Harris and Bigby, my bad. I'm too hungry to think straight right now.
>> Anonymous
1. Barrett Ruud
2. Tanard Jackson
3. Jermaine Phillips
4. Jeff Garcia
5. Davin Joseph
6. Arron Sears
7. Antonio Bryant
8. Alex Smith
9. BJ Askew
10. Derrick Brooks
>> Alakazam !!OEP6m59Bksc
1. Shaun Alexander
2. Steve Hutchinson
3. Walter Jones
4. Matt Hasselbeck
5. Darrell Jackson
6. Mack Strong
7. Bobby Engram
8. Jerramy Stevens
9. Josh Brown
10. Marcus Trufant

...;_;
>> Anonymous
1. Kurt Warner
2. Anquan Boldin
3. Larry Fitzgerald
4. Adrian Wilson
5. Darnell Docket
6. Karlos Dansby
7. Mike Gandy
8. DRC
9. Gerald Hayes
10. Tim Hightower? Can't tell, o-line can't run block worth a shit.
>> Anonymous
>>476749

I'm not trying to hate, but i feel as if AJ Hawk will never meet expectations.

I loved him at OSU, but
I think miss talent was misjudged.

Isn't he bad in coverage?
>> Anonymous
>>476774
1 is washed up and gone, 2 is gone, 5 is gone, 6 is retired, 8 was a douchebag and is gone, 9 is gone
>> Anonymous
>>476776
i've seen the numbers that show Fitz is waaayyy better than Anquan.
yet, i feel the same way. i love Anquan.
>> Anonymous
1. Jerry Rice
2. Steve Young
3. Deion Sanders
4. Brent Jones
5. Ricky Watters
6. Ken Norton Jr.
7. Merton Hanks
8. Dana Stubblefield
9. Bryant Young
10. Gary Plummer
>> Anonymous
>>476782

agreed. K.C. Joyner is pretty damn awesome.
>> Anonymous
I agree OP, jestfag here suffering since the 80's. this year there are a buttload of casualfags and bandwagoners supporting my jest. Top 10 on my team, not really skill level just who I like the most:

1. Jerricho Cotchery
2. Darrelle Revis
3. David Harris
4. Nick Mangold
5. Leon Washington
6. Laveranues Coles
7. Thomas Jones
8. Calvin Pace
9. Kris Jenkins
10. Brett Favre
>> Anonymous !!w8TIjcoB9vq
1. Barret Ruud
2. Tanard Jackson
3. Davin Joseph
4. Aaron Sears
5. Jeff Faine
6. Donald Penn
7. Phillip Buchanon
8. Antonio Bryant
9. BJ Askew (4.45 40 as a fb, yes pls)
10. Derrick Brooks

Phillips is injured or I'd have him in the top 5.
>> Anonymous
1.Bob Sanders
2.Peyton Manning
3.Reggie Wayne
4.Dominic Rhodes
5.Jeff Saturday
6.Robert Mathis
7.Dwight Freeney
8.Dallas Clark
9.Adam Vinatieri
10.Marvin Harrison
>> Anonymous
>>476797
>10. Marvin Harrison
2/10
>> Anonymous
>>476749

Our offensive line blows now. Don't you wish it was Chad Clifton, Mike Wahle, Mike Flanagan, Marco Rivera, and Mark Tauscher again? Maybe not Wahle, but the rest of the line was awesome.
>> Anonymous
1. Jerry Jones
2. Terell Owens
3.Tony Romo
>> Anonymous
>>476803
He's done. The knee injury has done him in. This is a current list, not all time.
>> Anonymous
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1. Chuck Woodson
2. A-Rodge
3. Donald Driver
4. Greg Jennings
5. Aaron Kampman
6. AJ Hawk
7. Al Harris
8. Nick Barnett
9. Nick Collins
10. KOREY MOTHERFUCKING HALL BITCHES LOOK AT THAT SEXY FULLBACK
>> Anonymous
>>476809
Jennings>Driver
and then grant (second half superstar just wait) and collins need to be switched moving collins to 10 (sorry mr. hall)
>> Anonymous
>>476808
He's far from done. All he needs to do it put forth more effort, this year he's looked like he doesn't care if they win or not.
>> Kilgamayan !2BklmILFiE
Ignoring Brady, since he's hurt.

>1. Randy Moss
2. Logan Mankins
3. Matt Light
4. Ty Warren
5. Wes Welker
6. Vince Wilfork
7. Kevin Faulk
8. Mike Vrabel
9. Ellis Hobbs
10. Stephen Gostkowski

Honorable mentions to Richard Seymour, Jerod Mayo and Chris Hanson.

That was harder than I thought it would be.
>> Anonymous
>>476810
Jennings is better than Driver but I still like Driver more than I liek Jennings.

And Collins is my fucking boy. I have Grant's jersey, and what he did on sunday was amazing, but he's been so inconsistent that I have to put him at 11. I FUCKING LOVE KOREY HALL
>> Titans are Gods !!3zWSzvEY+er
1. Haynesworth
2. Finnegan
3. Bulluck
4. Vandenbosch
5. Chris Johnson
6. Roos
7. Scaife
8. Bironas
9. Mawae
10. Griffin
>> Anonymous
Yankees (I'll name 20 b/c anyone can name 10 Yankees)
1. Jeter
2. A-Rod
3. Rivera
4. Posada
5. Robertson
6. Cano
7. Giambi (FA)
8. Swisher
9. Matsui
10. Gardner
11. Nady
12. Marte
13. Veras
14. Duncan
15. Chamberlain
16. Mussina
17. Pettite
18. Wang
19. I-Rod (FA)
20. Damon
>> Anonymous
>>476811
Bursa sac injuries end careers. It's happened before, and there's been nothing this season to show that Marvin's case is any different. I love him, but he's done.
>> Paynus !!/014qPW4YJb
>>476762
B-But we gots OWEN FUCKING SCHMITT.
>> Alakazam !!OEP6m59Bksc
>>476843

Owen Schmitt is definitely my current favorite Seahawk
>> Anonymous
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1. Kevin O'Connell
2. Kevin O'Connell
3. Kevin O'Connell
4. Kevin O'Connell
5. Kevin O'Connell
6. Kevin O'Connell
7. Kevin O'Connell
8. Kevin O'Connell
9. Kevin O'Connell
10. BenJarvus Green-Ellis
>> Anonymous
>>476820
Football only.
>> Barack ? Star !!YvdR7lWl85/
>>476722
I sure hope you mean Dason javid and not that faggot at number 10


No not you Tyson.
>> Anonymous
>>476758

beat me to it
>> Lambchop's Death Legion !d7bMXbKy6Q
Giants

1. Brandon Jacobs
2. Justin Tuck
3. Dave Diehl
4. Fred Robbins
5. Anontio Pierce
6. Mathias Kiwanuka
7. Sean O'Hara
8. Eli Manning
9. Amani Toomer
>> Anonymous
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Ignoring the injured Umenyiora

1) Antonio Pierce
2) Justin Tuck
3) Shaun O'Hara
4) Chris Snee
5) Amani Toomer
6) Brandon Jacobs
7) Fred Robbins
8) David Diehl
9) Eli Manning
10) Derrick Ward
>> Barack ? Star !!YvdR7lWl85/
Fuck that saints list is terrible I was going to leave it as is but meh

1.Brees
2.Dason Javid
3. Pierre thomas
4. Reggie bush
5. Hartley
6. DEUCCCCEEEEEEEEEE
7. Vilma
8. Moore
9. Colston
10. Meachem
11. Henderson
12. Vilma
13. Tyson gay
14. Campbell
15. Miller
16. Stecker
17. Melfail
skipalot
50. Failmatica
51. Shockey
Everyone on Injured reserve
100. Jason David.
>> Anonymous
Chiefs

1. Tony Gonzalez
2. Larry Johnson
3. Dwayne Bowe
4. Derrick Johnson
5. Dustin Colquitt
6. Brian Waters
7. Mark Bradley
8. lol the rest of the team

but Bernard Pollard is #1 in my heart
>> CeeDub !!P3FqfVrI4VK
1. Champ Bailey
2. Brandon Marshall
3. Ryan Clady
4. Eddie Royal
5. Tony Scheffler
6. DJ Williams
7. Jay Cutler
8. Brandon Stokley
9. Dre Bly
10. Ryan Harris
>> Anonymous
Most /sp/artans are elitist sportstards that are deeply ingrained with something called "hometown loyalty."

Also, ESPN is for bookies to determine spreads and such
>> Anonymous
1. Rex Grossman's Right Arm
2. Rex Grossman's Left Testicle
3. Rex Grossman's Penis
4. Rex Grossman's Left Arm
5. Lance Briggs
>> Anonymous
>>476812
Good but needs more Jerod Mayo. Knock off Hobbs for him.
>> Anonymous
1. Andre Johnson
2. Demeco Ryans
3. Mario Williams
4. Steve Slaton
5. Vonta Leach
6. Owen Daniels
7. Kevin Walter

lol Texans
>> Lambchop's Death Legion !d7bMXbKy6Q
>>477046

Zac Diles is pretty decent
>> Anonymous
>>477049
Yeah, he was having a career season until he broke his leg in practice. It was either him or Walter on that list. And there was no way I was cutting Leach or Daniels, Vonta is awesome.
>> Anonymous
1. Greg Jennings
2. Charles Woodson
3. Aaron Rodgers
4. Aaron Kampman
5. Donald Driver
6. A.J. Hawk
7. Al Harris
8. Ryan Grant
9. Atari Bigby
10. Nick Collins

I really wanted to put Mason Crosby on the list, but that miss against the Vikings...

Also, I left off Barnett and Jenkins because they're hurt
>> Anonymous
1) Jacobs
2) Ross
3) Pierce
4) Tuck
5) Manning
6) Smith
7)Ward
8)Toomer
9)Snee
10)Boss
>> Anonymous
1.) Demarcus Ware
2.) Jason Witten
3.) Tony Romo
4.) Felix Jones
5.) Marion Barber
6.) TO
7.) Terence Newman
8.) Gurode
9.) Jay Ratliff
10.) ZT
>> PhilKenSebben !qNgkjhpu0A
1. Matt Hasselbeck
2. Walter Jones
3. Julian Peterson
4. Patick Kerney
5. Lofa Tatupu
6. Marcus Trufant
7. John Carlson
8. Leonard Weaver
9. Owen Schmitt
10. Leroy Hill
>> Barack ? Star !!YvdR7lWl85/
>>477092

Wut?

Barber is the whole dallas team.
>> Anonymous
1. Ronnie Brown
2. Joey Porter
3. Chad Pennington
4. Jason Ferguson
5. Will Allen
6. Ted Ginn, Jr.
7. Ricky Williams
8. Kendall Langford
9. Greg Camarillo
10. Jake Long
>> Anonymous
>>477116
Hey you. I love you.

Anyway,

1. Bob Sanders
2. Peyton Manning
3. Reggie Wayne
4. Dallas Clark
5. Dwight Freeney
6. Marvin Harrison (this season, at least)
7. Anthony Gonzalez
8. Joseph Addai
9. Dominic Rhodes
10. Marvin Bullitt

Wish I could fit Ratliff, Session, and Saturday on there too, but alas...
>> dolphins are gods !!9e1fWM+S5Fn
GOD TIER: JOEY PORTER
Normal Tier:
1. Chad Pennington
2. Ronnie Brown
3. Ricky Williams
4. Ten Ginn Jr.
5. Greg Camarillo
6. Vonnie Holliday
7. Patrick Cobbs
8. Anthony Fasano (probably one of the best tight ends in the league right now prove me wrong)
9. David Martin
10. Jake Long
>> sage Anonymous
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>>477082
>2) Ross
>> Lambchop's Death Legion !d7bMXbKy6Q
>>477127
>>477116

Dolfags don't know about Yeremiah Bell
>> MIGHTY MIGHTY BOSTON !3GqYIJ3Obs
1.Matt Castle
2.Randy Moses
3. Wade Wellcar
4.Marshall Faulk
5.Robert Harrison
6.Ricky Saymore
7.Tim Warden
8.Jeremy Maho
9.Ben Wansen
10. Timmy Brushard ( I used to like him, but he is just some old POS LB now, seriously get off my team you old faggot.)
>> Anonymous
1. K2
2. Josh Cribbs (best special teams player in the NFL)
3. Joe Thomas
4. Jerome Harrison
5. Shaun Rogers
6. Brady Quinn
7. Braylon Edwards
8. Brodney Pool
9. Ryan Tucker
10. Lawrence Vickers
>> Anonymous
1) Hedgecock
2) Jacobs
3) Tuck
4) Snee
5) Manning
6) Toomer
7) Smith
8) Burress
9) Bradshaw
10) Ward

People don't realize how much of a factor Hedgecock plays when Jacobs' runs the ball. One of the best blocking fullbacks I've ever seen.
>> Sneak !!+y8MDiWrdyT
>>477163

How do you not have Phil Dawson on this list? I know he's just a kicker, but still :(
>> Anonymous
>>477156
You're getting lazy man.

Too much fake not enough truth to rage.
>> dolphins are gods !!9e1fWM+S5Fn
>>477150
I do like him, he was born like 30 miles outside of my city and went to college the same place alot of my friends did
But I don't like our secondary one bit this year and i hope to see it improved
>> Lambchop's Death Legion !d7bMXbKy6Q
>>477163

Brady Quinn goes 14/36 and he's your 6th best player?

I've never hated the browns, but ever since brady quinn has entered the NFL all I have seen from Browns fans on his undeserving dick.
>> Anonymous
>>477181

Ok, 6 may have been to high. We have not had a good QB since Bernie (even though I think Couch could have been good with at least AVERAGE talent around him). I am just excited because I think Quinn has a great future.
>> Anonymous
>>476917

I'd put Bowe above Johnson and Thigpen at eight or something. Johnson use to be great but he's not what he used to be... thanks to Hermy running him into the ground.

either way, looking at the list makes me depressed.
>> Anonymous
>>477173

I love Phil but this list can only be 10 players long. Someone had to get left out.
>> Anonymous
1. Albert Haynesworth
2. Michael Roos
3. Kevin Mawae
4. Kerry Collins
5. David Thornton
6. Kyle Vanden Bosch
7. Rob Bironas
8. Cortland Finnegan
9. Chris Johnson
10. Chris Hope
>> Anonymous
>>477196

No Lendale? Seriously?
>> Hexagram !iKGMr61IHM
1- Troy Polamalu
2- James Harrison
3- Lamarr Woodley
4- Ben Roethlisberger
5- Hines Ward
6- Aaron Smith
7- Santonio Holmes
8- Willie Parker
9- James Farrior
10- Heath Miller
>> dolphins are gods !!9e1fWM+S5Fn
>>477224
I hope you know that leftwich is better than big ben
>> Anonymous
>>477228
lolno
>> Hexagram !iKGMr61IHM
>>477228

uh no.
>> Anonymous
1. Tom Brady
2. Randy Moss

lol i dunno any other playerz
>> Anonymous
ITT: We overrate defensive players
>> Anonymous
>>477150


I thought he was going to be much better than he has been. He's been merely solid whereas I though if he stayed healthy he was going to be a beast.
>> Anonymous
>>477238


Translation: "LOL I play a lot of fantasy football and madden and I'm ALMOST out of high school!"
>> dolphins are gods !!9e1fWM+S5Fn
>>477232
>>477233
Racist Or Retarded?
An expose on the modern pittsburgh fan, next on 60 minutes.

(maybe you guys forgot that washington game)
B. Leftwich 7/10 129 1 0
B. Roethlisberger 5/17 50 0 1
>> Hexagram !iKGMr61IHM
>>477249

congratulations... Leftwich is a capable backup who padded his stats in garbage time. why dont you go ahead and compare the rest of their careers, moron?
>> Anonymous
>>477191
Bowe/LJ was a toss-up for me, but Johnson is wearing down, and it's sad to see.

I'm still not high on Thigpen. He's a small school guy I've been hoping to see succeed, but if Croyle were to miraculously recover tomorrow he would get the starting spot back.

interesting stat: Thigpen has 1337 passing yards
>> dolphins are gods !!9e1fWM+S5Fn
>>477261

naw man you are right 79 qb rating is awesome.
>> Hexagram !iKGMr61IHM
>>477275

yeah and it was mostly accumlated in the 3 games before the last one. its called a slump, homo. nevermind his career rating of 90.3.
>> ????
     File :-(, x)
HEY *CHIRP* SHUT THE FUCK UP.. /v/ is a place for people who under all circumstances.
>> Anonymous
Nightmare Mode:

1) Leonard Little
2) Steven Jackson
3) Tory Holt
4) Jake Long
5) Orlando Pace
6) Josh Brown
7) Marc Bulger
8) Donnie Avery
9) Oshi Atogwe
10) Donnie Jones

In case you were wondering, yes, the kicker and punter both made the top ten.
FUCK YOU /sp/
>> Anonymous
GOD TIER: RAX GRISSMAN
Everyone else:
1. Matt Forte
2. Kyle Orton
3. Lance Briggs
4. Greg Olsen
5. Olin Kreutz
6. Mike Brown
7. Devin Hester
8. Brad Maynard
9. Robbie Gould
10. Rashied Davis
>> ????
>>477312
nightmare mode is all st louis rams sucking?
>> Anonymous
>>477323
Nightmare mode is trying to name ten half-decent Rams players.
>> Anonymous
>>477320

No Urlacher? What a faggot.
>> Anonymous
>>477324
Nightmare mode? That's fucking mission impossible.
>> Anonymous
>>477330
This year Urlacher has 1 INT (on a badly underthrown ball), 0 sacks, and by most counts not even as many tackles as most of our DBs. He's done a good job for us in the past, but let's face it: he's just average now.
>> Anonymous
Brady's hurt but he'd be God Tier

>1. Randy Moss
2. Wes Welker
3. Kevin Faulk
4. Jerod Mayo
5. Sammy Morris
6. Ty Warren
7. Stephen Gostowski
8. Ellis Hobbs
9. Mike Vrabel
10. Matt Cassel (in b4 troll, etc, dude threw for 400 yards, goddamn. Mediocre QB but since everyone else is hurt...)
>> Anonymous
>>477362
>8. Ellis Hobbs

No
>> Anonymous
>>477366
He's leading the league in average yards per kick return
>> Anonymous
>>477370
He can't cover for shit.
>> Anonymous
>>477379
Thus why he is 8th.
>> PhilKenSebben !qNgkjhpu0A
>>477312
You forgot Pisa Tinoasamoa
>> Anonymous
Ugh, seriously?

1. Nnamdi Asomugha
2. Thomas Howard
3. Kirk Morrison
4.Gibril Wilson
5. Sebastian Janikowski
6. Shane Lechler
7. Tommy Kelly
8. Justin Fargas
9. Robert Gallery FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
10. Derrick Burgess (If he gets healthy)

Hardest top 10 list I have ever had to throw together.
>> Anonymous
>>477428

What? No Deangelo Hall or Javon Walker?
>> Anonymous
>>477481
Hall's on the Redskins now and isn't Walker out for the season?
>> Anonymous
>>477362
Why the fuck do you have Vrabel on there? He went from a pro-bowler last year to shit all now. Sammy Morris? What the fuck?

Where is Logan Mankins? Dan Koppen? Vince Wilfork?

GTFO bandwagoner
>> Anonymous
>>476611why doesn't Anon hate casual football fans?

We do. You know those tripfags that all like the Steelers?

Casuals. Notice how they'll all flame away if you ever call them out on their bullshit.
>> Anonymous
1. Simone Gagne
2. Mike Richards
3. Kimmo Timonen
4. Danny Briere
5. Braydon Coburn
6. Jeff Carter
7. Luca Sbisa
8. Mike Knuble
9. Joffrey Lupul
10. Scottie Upshall

Carter would jump to #3 if he'd fucking backcheck.