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Anonymous
So a lot of people say Italians play dirty football (soccer). I don't get to watch a lot of good football because I live in America, but from the few games I've seen, they pull, shove, trip, and insult other teams. They also flop ALOT. They say Italian football is also more defensive-minded.

So can anyone describe the playing styles of other countries? Like if a country is more offensive minded, or finesse, or physical.
>> Anonymous
italy is no different than all the faggot european countries, they play diving defensive pussyball

Team USA didn't get invited to the euro, so we can't show them how it's done.

also, WE WON FIFA, SUCK IT EUROFAGS
>> Anonymous
Soccer is for fags
>> Anonymous
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Just long ball it for 90 minutes.
>> Anonymous
>>184740

Its called EURO for a reason...sorry there aren't any good cups for Americans to wait for except the World Cup, which you have no chance of winning anyway.
>> Anonymous
>>184742
Yeah, thanks Crouch.
>> Anonymous
>>184745
yeah, hows england doing faggot?
>> Anonymous
>>184745

The South American faggots should invite Amerikkka to Copa Mundial. They invite Mexico, so it's not unprecedented for North American countries to join.
>> Anonymous
>>184752
They know USA will pwn them
>> Anonymous
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Playing styles? You can just pay off the referees you know.
>> Anonymous
Team USA already qualified for next FIFA best in world tourney
http://www.fifa.com/confederationcup/qualifiers/index.html
>> Anonymous
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We like to destroy everything when we're underdogs but when expected to win,we like to choke.
>> Anonymous
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Magic pure Magic
>> Anonymous
>>184752

I just looked it up. USA has been invited to every Copa Mundial since the 90s, but they only attended 3 of them (93, 95, 07). USA actually got 4th place in 95, which is fukken hilarious.
>> Anonymous
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Like Italia, big defense (4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1), with less simulation but more niggers. This formation was adopted ans sacralised since France win the FIFA World cup (1998) and the UEFA Euro (2000). But it's about to change after the worst euro ever that France has done this year.
>> Anonymous
>>184764
Allah hax.
>> Anonymous
>>184788
I lolled.
>> Anonymous
>>184735
The Ned's play pretty offensive minded. Too bad they couldn't offense their way past Russia.

On the state of North American soccer, I really believe we can't have a US wide league, we need regional leagues with a north american champions league type setup. Smaller distance between opposing sides results in more away support and better rivalries. Maybe we can build some fucking tradition. Sadly, this will not happen because the MLS owners just want big corporate payoff type environment.

Ah well, I guess I can always support Sunderland or some other mid tier side in the premiership.
>> Anonymous
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All starting 11 players once played as strikers
>> Anonymous
>>184762
Total football?

More like Total Failure.
>> Anonymous
>>184765
And in the most recent of the three Bradley only bothered bringing scrubs.
>> Anonymous
>>184843

Even the keeper?
>> Rogerio Ceni
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>>184871
Yes
>> Claudio Taffarel Anonymous
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>>184871
yea
>> Anonymous
>>184752
Uhm, we invited you guys to the Copa America last year, you sent us a team full of n00bs and duches that got raped.

Also, we cut the mic off when your national anthem was being played in Maracaibo, LOL
>> Anonymous
>>184735
>> Anonymous
>>184784
>less simulation

You're joking, right? Seriously, there's no other team that dives and cheats as much as France.

Also, Italians make brutal fouls during the game. French make brutal fouls when noone's watching.
>> Anonymous
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DURR HURR HAW DO I KICKS DAT? LOAL ITS ROLLIN ON GROUNDS.
>> Anonymous
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>>185131
HURR HURR
>> ?
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>>185131
>>185147

Shut the fuck up you nitwits.
>> Anonymous
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>>185151
what you walkin' 'bout willis?
>> Anonymous
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BIRDIE!!!11
>> ?
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>>185166

I fucking hate Poland.
>> Anonymous
>>185166
actually double bogey it was a par 3 goal.
>> ?
>>185186

Took me a second to get that, golffag.
>> Anonymous
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>>184735
Germany here. I'll start with the basics:

We fight till the end. We may be one or even two goals behind but the only sure way to get rid of us is to put our team in the bus.
We are in execllent physical condition. We run. We have a strong will. And every player is determined to win the game (well mostly that is).

Usually we have a good Goalkeeper and a relatively strong defense, which has somewhat subsided in the last few years, but we are reasonably able to defend our goal.

We can't (and never could) bring a lead over the time. German teams just can't defend with 11 people, everytime we try that, the oppenent scores. Just look at the Portugal match.

We dont play filigree. If the Brazilians look like dancers with the ball, we look like lumerjacks. But we get the job done, with short precise passes and well timed crosses.

We never play well against defensively oriented teams. It's more likely for us to win against Brazil than against Italy. I don't know why, but it's always been that way.

Lately we became rather offensive compared to the past. Our game is more fun to watch, but it's still not the same as the Netherlands, Brazil or Spain.

We are a so called tournament-team. We may play crappy in the preliminaries, but once it's knock-out we exceed ourselves. But this can also be a curse, as seen in 2000 and 2004, or simply not ture, as seen in 1994 and 1998.
>> Anonymous
>>185120
I don't think so. The French really take fewer dives, plus they don't do it as theatrically as the Spaghettis. Which doesen't mean I like their playing style.
>> Anonymous
>>184843
>> Anonymous
>>184843
I'm not an expert on Southamerican football, but didn't you guys just lose to Paraguay and tied with Argentina, Peru and Colombia? Making you 5th in your qualification group for the next WC?
>> Anonymous
>>185208
I heard that, too. That'd be something: World Cup without Brazil. It's just like EC without England... Oh wait.
>> Anonymous
>>185196
You left out a few things, like how your midfield players tend to have a horrible penchant for getting into fights, and enjoy shoving after play has ended. Your captain also has a devilish tendency to set a horrible example for his players, like Ballacks past time of diving while holding his face (no matter where he was hit) or roll players around when they're on the ground injured (as if he was saying they're not injured, just let them be!), but other than missing the negatives of your team, you covered it alright.

Let's actually break down how the Italians play though, honestly without calling them "Dirty", because we don't play any more nasty than other teams, the rest of Europe just envy's the Italians and feels the need to talk shit.

Italy:
Clearly a defense minded team, captain usually sits in the back four. Left and Right on the back line can and DO play the role of Wing Back fairly often, in that case a defending midfielder covers his role.
Midfield is usually content with ball control, and does not like to play long balls, also not afraid of going into a tackle.
Offense we're not known for, but when we have a strong forward, he's usually a pretty well respected guy. There is no style of forward that is prevalent in Italy, as is noted from how Toni is a bumbling fucktard and cost us the Spain game by assuming he's the only one in the box, and then you've got Del Piero who is a dead ball specialist, and plays balls from the ground, from inside and outside the box. Cassano is much less agressive with going into the box, and likes to knock balls in from outside.

They win games 1-0, and they're happy with it. Much like Germany, they don't show up for the preliminary rounds of tournaments, but generally get their acts together.
>> Anonymous
Portugalfag here, we play the "flowing style". we suck at defending. we dont counter attack, we pressure. our tactic is basically short + direct pass in quick tempo. I like the style, but we are always raped by counter attack teams with a good defense, the so called anti football. :'(

and they dont dive, only that faggot called ronaldo.
>> Anonymous
>>184735
England are meant to be more "sudden attack" style... They're quite good defensively (but at the moment have a set of terrible keepers) but don't seem able to build up an offensive play... They tend to knock the ball up the pitch to a striker who then runs at the goal and hopes it goes in.

Germany are similar but a bit less panicky and a bit more... thoughtful, I guess. As an English person I'm supporting Germany in Euro 2008 because of their similar play styles. I just couldn't support a "Latino" team because they're always fucking diving and fouling the shit out of everyone.
>> Anonymous
>>185215
>but other than missing the negatives of your team, you covered it alright.

I'd say that's my prerogative as a German. I actually never had the feeling our guys did a lot of acting on the pitch. But then again, I'm biased. You're right about the fights in midfield, though.
>> Anonymous
>>185229
>I just couldn't support a "Latino" team because they're always fucking diving and fouling the shit out of everyone.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAH! OH DELICIOUS IRONY!
>> ?
Its a well known fact that the only teams that don't dive are Scotland, Norway and Sweden.
>> Anonymous
>>185235
Ibrahimovic dives.
>> Anonymous
>>185231
I really don't understand what you mean: The English are quite rough, maybe one of the roughest teams in the world, but they don't foul unnecessary and they rarely take dives.

But then again they try to kill Swiss referees, because they apply rules, which are obviously unhread of on the Island.
>> Anonymous
>>185235
I don't know... either you are serious, then I lol at you, or you are trolling, then the attempt is futile.
>> Anonymous
>>185237
Yes you are fucking rough. You are capable of the most hideous fouls.
>> ?
>>185239

All im pointing out is that there seems to be a cultural style of deceptive football tactics in southern European countries when compared to the northern ones.
>> Anonymous
>>185241
I'm the guy you quoted and I'm German. So there's no "you".
>> Anonymous
>>185236
He's also a moody little cow. And has a massive ego. And a fucking fantastic striker... But would be better if he cut the crap.
>> Anonymous
Our style is simple.

IT'S WINNING FIFA!!
>> Anonymous
Comprehensive update:

Italy: 10 defenders and one lone striker. They'll defend for 80 minutes, kick a long shot to the striker and score once to win the game.

Germany: das Spiel dauert 90 minuten und am ende gewinnt immer Deutschland.

England: they like to play as if they're playing rugby. They also never quit, even when they're behind by three goals in the last five minutes.

Netherlands: emphasis on tactics and good looking football. The most important thing for a Dutch coach is playing well, not winning. Which is why we never do win anything.

Portugal: diving, diving, diving. It's all they really do.
>> Anonymous
>>185265

At first I thought it was our "style" to lead the ball forward into the wings, then either cross the ball inside to a defender for clearance or take a shot that sailed 10 yards over and 5 yards wide of the net.

Then I watched Euro 2008 and realized that's everybody's style. Only for added lols Donovan will sometimes dribble into the box and miss a wide open post.
>> Anonymous
Slow Italy is SLOOOOOOOOOW.
>> Anonymous
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We like to suckalot and can only score offside-goals. If this doesn't work we cheat through the game and win the penalty shooting. In the unlikely case of losing the game, we whine about one super-important player (like löw, hurr durr) missing.
>> Anonymous
If /sp/ was a football coach then he would have 2 center backs, 6 midfielders and 3 strikers, and he would instruct it's players to never play a backpass.
>> ?
>>185298

Actually i would prefer a 4-5-1...
>> Anonymous
4-5-1 with athletic players who can mutated it in 4-2-4 very quickly. Or 4-3-3 if you havn't those players. And after the break, 5-4-1 italiano catenaccio.
>> Anonymous
>>185312
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>> ?
>>185312

Christ, it's like your in my head.

GET OUT OF MY HEAD CHARLES.
>> Anonymous
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Spain relays on the big big quality of the mid-fielders to keep the possesion of the ball and fuck around until they can connect a good ball to Villa or Torres, both fast as hell and good strikers. It's all about finesse, not strength at all.

Poor game with balls in the air, big problem there.
>> Anonymous
>>184843

But they all forgot how to score?
>> Anonymous
>>185208

Yes, but, as you say, you don't know anything about South American football. Brazil always does terribly in qualifiers, mostly because their football administration is a royal clusterfuck and can't decide how many players go on the pitch, let alone who they should be. Usually, Brazil qualifies after having tried several hundred players and about a dozen coaches, and then waltzes through the group stage without a hike.

Thereby proving that Brazilians are good, but Brazil sucks.
>> Anonymous
>>185352

Yep. Both Ibrahimovic and Toni fucked us all by themselves.
>> Anonymous
>>185357

Wrong. lrn2brazilianfootballhistoryinqualifiers
>> Anonymous
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Our best striker is Peter Crouch
>> Anonymous
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4-4-2
4-4-1-1
4-5-1

Are by just about everyone.


I use 4-3-3.
>> Anonymous
>>185363
Sorry, but Rooney is the goodest!
>> Anonymous
>>185376

He didn't score nearly as many goals as he should have this season, considering he mostly played as a lone striker in United
>> Anonymous
>>185381

Ronaldo stole them all

>>185272

portugal hater spoted. actually only ronaldo dives. no, i'm not a portugalfag.
>> Anonymous
What pisses me off the most about Italians is how the forwards fall down "injured" whenever they lose possession in the midfield and they have no one back. Taking advantage of fair play is unacceptable and countries should just keep playing through.
>> Anonymous
>>185287
Oh wow. You are one butthurt faggot. I just can't make out your nationality, but I guess it's Portugese.
>> Anonymous
>>184742
>Just pass it around their half for 90 minutes
fixed.
>> Anonymous
>>185596
it must be a pole
>> ­
>>185596
My guess is Italian, because of the whining part. Frings, you know.
>> Anonymous
Turkey:
We have no tactic whatsoever
somehow we always make it to the penalties where we win by calling Allah to help us
>> Proof !!HYH71mAkmGC
Turkey: Play around for the entire game, then wait for the last 2 minutes to completely rape the other team.
>> Anonymous
>>185603
If it is, he should be complaining about his crappy team, not some offside goals. They'd have lost anyway.
>> sage !cBA.fxfg1Y
>>185389
What so Deco doesn't dive?
Quaresma doesn't dive?
etc
etc
>> Anonymous
Turkey: Only score when the infidel offends us by scoring past us. Also play third goally as out field player. And AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>> Anonymous
>>185389
Figo was the king of divers. Well, he still is
>> Anonymous
>>185622
Maybe he was/is, but at least he isn't a drama queen like Ronaldo.
>> Anonymous
>>185374
As an American who plays FIFA 2008 because I don't know any better, I've been trying to find my ideal setup. So far it's 4-4-2 but with the midfield configured into a horizontal diamond, so that you have center defensive and attacking mid with two out on the wings.

I like being able to push all but the back 5 up relatively easy but then equally easily push back the midfield into defense.

Sadly, playing as FC Dallas, I haven't been able to get a good enough midfield to make this plausible as my team gets depressed constantly because they're getting run ragged and they aren't playing their ideal position. Gah.
>> sage !cBA.fxfg1Y
>>185629
>horizontal diamond
As opposed to a vertical diamond... =S

Plus playing Fifa 08 has no bearing on real life, plus if you aren't doing well then thats obviously a winning formation.. NOT
>> Anonymous
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>>184753
Actually, this is what happens.
>> Anonymous
>>185669
Looks like USA never won fifa
>> Anonymous
>>185629

Entirely depends on the players.
>> Anonymous
>>185674
oh hai 2007, welcome to 2008, where Team USA FUCKING WON FIFA! GET OVER IT SPIC
>> Anonymous
Turkey: Play around for the entire game, then wait for the last 2 minutes to completely rape the other team.
>> Anonymous
>>185629
Stop playing fifa. Get pro evolution soccer. The gameplay is 100% better. The only downside is that not all the teams are official so instead of manchester united you might have a team called Man Red
>> ­
>>185760
Yeah, but the Germans aren't that stupid. They'll have learnt from the other teams' mistakes.
>> Anonymous
>>185773
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/proevolutionsoccer2008?q=pro%20evolution
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/fifasoccer08

Fifa franchise is now better. If anything buy Pro Evo so that EA doesn't get lazy and keeps improving their game.
>> Anonymous
>>185777
PTI picked both picked Turkey, so unfortunately they are doomed
>> Anonymous
>>184735

This is false. gb2/v/
>> Anonymous
>>185777
damn
>> Anonymous
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We're the comic relief
>> Anonymous
>>186035
lol scotland
i like the drunk scotch announcer during the euro though
>> Anonymous
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we recruit hybrid gazelle gorillas
>> SaiGAR_Loser !!2OQL1suPfp+
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Can never win on European soil.

If we concede the first gaol we are fucked the rest of the game but we will continue to fight every minute.

Usually have a fuck awesome keeper.

We don't dive. And even if we get a head splitting injury we take it and stand right back up and stare a hole into the other player's face.

Generally our stikers are douche bags in some way but they're not as much as your normal stricker douche bag.

But we don't really have a set style as it changes drastically depending on who is playing. And now we're running on a whole new generation of players than the ones that made a name for us in the 90's.
>> Anonymous
>>186079
and we send our white boys
>> Anonymous
>>186079
QFT my brother

also, we fucking won FIFA from messi and the rest of those faggots

TEAM USA WON FIFA, GET OVER IT
>> Anonymous
>>186079
Team USA would rather lose than win by diving unlike those european and south american faggots.Team USA are the only team who are manly and won't whine over an injury.FIFA CHAMPIONS TEAM USA
>> Anonymous
>>185773
Or get FIFA or PES and Football manager as well.

I prefer FIFA but if I had an Xbox I'd defo go PES + Live.