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Anonymous
When Florida beats Alabama, how will the BCS apologists weasel out of this one?
>> Anonymous
Do what Obama wants and do playoffs?
>> Anonymous
I don't see where the issue is with your situation, OP.
>> Anonymous
>>483591

The issue is a blatantly stupid system arbitrarily picking 2 1-loss teams to play for the title when there are:

a) a bunch of 1-loss BCS teams and

b) a few undefeated mid-major teams
How could ANYONE defend the BCS? Ever?
>> Anonymous
>>483625
Because not all wins and losses are created equal.

A lot of mid-major teams have relatively easy schedules, and some of those 1 losses are more forgivable than others.

The BCS sucks at times, but at least it's exciting and it gives us something to talk about.
>> Anonymous
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>>483647


Oh jesus nigger...shut the fuck up.

How in the fuck of bitch cunt nigger faggot could you defend settling this shit via computers and voting? What is this, figure skating?

Also, yeah, we'd have nothing to talk about if there were a playoff. FUCK you people make me RAGE.
>> Anonymous
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>>483676
But...but...but...the BCS system makes every regular season game important BAWWW!!
>> Anonymous
It makes every game important. If we had a playoff, Alabama would be benching its players against Florida to rest them.

Personally, I wish we would get rid of BCS and have normal bowls - not necessarily having a #1 vs #2 game. Bowls are supposed to be rewards, not championships.
>> Anonymous
>>483647
GET
THE
FUCK
OUT
YOU
MORON
>> Anonymous
Dude, an 8-team playoff would be just as big of a shitstorm.

You'd have either the SEC or Big XII runner-up left out because of Utah.

And oh lord, what if Oregon State manages to not suck enough to win and knock USC out?

The only realistic solution is either a 12- or 16-team playoff. 12 with the BCS Conference champions + 6 at large or 16 with all conference champs + 5 at large.

inb4 sun belt shitstorm
>> Anonymous
>>483692


Why?
>> Anonymous
>>483698
>Dude, an 8-team playoff would be just as big of a shitstorm.

That's why it should be a 16-team playoff just like the FCS (I-AA). That would be more inclusive and keep the shitstorming smaller (well, depending on which whiny bitch team gets left out some year).
>> Anonymous
>>483705

Did you not read my entire post?
>> Anonymous
It's funny how bad you fags rage over things like BCS support.

How is a playoff any better? First of all, you'll just get people bitching over the teams that get screwed out of the at-large bids instead.

Plus, playoffs don't guarantee the "best" team is the winner either. A lot of the top 10 teams in the rankings got their loss from one bad game against a generally worse team (e.g. Florida vs. Ole Miss, USC vs. Oregon St.). You're just shifting most of the importance from the regular season to the post-season.

IMO they should do a +1, keep it the same, or get rid of the championship and just focus on the 4 main bowls + the rest.
>> Anonymous
>>483708
lol...dude, truly sorry. I thought I did but I guess my eyes are crossing after so much football today. I'll gladly accept my deserved cocks to suck and go to bed now.
>> Anonymous
>>483719

Well, if the BCS weren't trying to, y'know determine a national champion, it wouldn't be a problem.

If we won't have anything besides bowl games, then to hell with trying to align them and more or less randomly assign a champion. Let's go back to the old old system and decide the champion before the bowls even begin. After all, the regular season is a playoff, amirite?
>> Anonymous
>>483742
I don't see why we need a national champion. College ball seems much more entertaining to me when it's about rivalry games and bowl match-ups instead of spending months bitching and whining about this and that.
>> Anonymous
>>483772

Then why does any college sport have a playoff or chamionship?

Srsly, though, if we're go to the trouble of naming a champion, then do it like EVERY OTHER RELEVANT SPORTS LEAGUE IN THE GODDAMN WORLD. Except for English Premier League.
>> Anonymous
I don't hear anyone bitching over who the FCS champion is...its because the FCS decides their champion on the field!

inb4 no one cares about the FCS
>> Anonymous
I'm so sick of the fucking argument "the BCS makes every game a playoff game". Really? That's true if you're from a BCS Conference (big east, acc...lol wut) Go tell Utah, Boise St, and Ball St that every game is a playoff game...
Because to them it doesn't matter if they win out, they won't be playing in the Natl. Championship
>> Anonymous
>>483920

So true...

Last time i checked, when you win all you're "playoff" games it means you are the best! NOt so for those three.

And what happens when Florida rapes Alabama? Then Utah, Boise St, and Ball St are the only undefeated teams in the country....

but none of them will be the "National Champion"
>> Anonymous
Seems silly to me to put in all that work and not have an official clear-cut champion in the end.
>> Anonymous
Fuck this shit....you want things to change?? This needs to happen!

BCS: Wanna come to our party?
Utah: Fuck off nigger
BCS: BAWWWWWWWWWL
Entire Country: Holy Shi......
>> ????
>>483920
Oh god, the infants at the children's table are BAWWWWWWing.

USC v. Florida. The only intresting game left.
>> Anonymous
>>483941

USC is a joke frome a joke conference...any half decent team can roll through the Pac-10 every year...

Who have you beaten? An overrated Ohi St team from the big-11? Wow...scary
>> ????
>>483945
uh, does Boise, Utah, Ball, Penn St., uh basically every other team in a conference that isn't the SEC, really think USC is a "joke" team? Well, flatter yourselves as much as you want, any WAC or MWC can go undefeated for three decades, they ain't beating South Carolina, much less USC. Anyhoo, this Trojan just looks at the landscape, the Big 12 will eat each other up next week and then there is a championship game, 'Bama is a fraud. So there are two teams with the best defenses in college football, USC & Florida. If you do not live in Utah or Texas or *snicker* Alabama you want to see the best teams match up. Also, who is really in the "joke" conference. I would suggest it is Boise State, Utah (come join the Pac, if you think you would fare so well, and you could quit acting butthurt every year when you think beating Weber State is something to add to the resume, fgt. Oh and the MAC. Ball St. should join the Big Ten, and make it into a Big 12, since they cannot count,)
>> Anonymous
>>483957
>Ball St. to big ten

AW FUCK WIN

MORE EASY TEAMS
>> Anonymous
>>483920
Strength of Schedule. I guarantee you neither Ball State, Boise State, nor Utah would go undefeated in the SEC or Big 12, and probably not in the Big 10 or Pac 10 either.

Teams in weak conferences need to schedule tough out of conference games if they want any respect. If they don't prove themselves we don't know if we're getting Boise vs. Oklahoma or Hawaii vs. Georgia.
>> Anonymous
>>483957
I think this is the real issue, good teams not in a major conference should join the major conferences. Bad teams in major conferences should join lesser conferences. But there's too much money involved.
>> Anonymous
>>483957

A Pac-10 fan trying to say they are better than the MWC? lol wut

Last time i checked the MWC punked the Pac-10 7-1 this year...USC couldn't beat Oregon St....But Utah did...

Go bawwwwwwwwwwl more trojanfag

What quality of wins do you have? none.

We have beaten 3 top 25 teams.
We have gone Undefeated.
We are the clear conference champion.
We have gone undefeated though a stronger conference than the Pac-10 or Big East or ACC.

GTFO you sorry piece of trojan trash.

Keep telling yourself you're a good team.
(don'e forget, Washington AND Washington St are in your precious Pac-10)
I hope Florida Plays USC so USC can choke.

Go bawwwwl more and come back when you have something intelligent to say to /sp/

You embarass us all

faggot
>> Anonymous
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>>483565
Does it really matter? The BCS doesn't need to be discredited any more. Not after 2004.
>> Anonymous
>>483965

Don't compare Utah to Boise St and Ball St you nigger.

Utah would rape both of them.

You seriously think the Pac-10 is better than the MWC? God, the lol's in /sp/ are endless

FAIL.
>> Anonymous
>>483970
UTAH?

More like Mormon land.

Enjoy your cult and your fail football team. BSU and BSU could beat you with just field goals.
>> ????
>>483968
stop trying too hard. Utah and BYU had an open invite to join the Pac, they don't. So you beat Oregon State? You did not beat USC, this "beat a team, that beat a team" means nothing, See 18-1. Utah's big win was Oregon State? and? Also quit samefagging yr thread to bump it.Now you just get back to your special underwear, Mormon, and understand the only teams you deserve to play come bowl week are like Ohio State, Wake Forest, maybe 'Bama, and even those feeb teams will destroy you.

USC is waiting for a good team to play, most likely Florida.
>> Anonymous
>>483926
Nigger, you're on that powder
if you think Utah's broke ass is turning down 20 million to go play in the Texas Bowl or some similar shit.
>>483986
>USC is waiting to get raped by either Texas or Alabama.
fixed. And the game everyone wants to see is Oklahoma - Florida, not USC - Florida.
>> Anonymous
No. 14 Ball St. rallies to beat Central Michigan

lol No. 14
>> Anonymous
>>483986

Utah's big win was not #21 Oregon St faggot.

Utah's biggest win was last night against #14 BYU and don't forget #16 TCU.

USC has beaten up on the Pac-10 all season...hell, any shit team from the MWC could do that...oh wait we already did! (7-1 faggot)

Only USC fags actually think their team is worth shit. Lucky for you there is no playoff so you'll never have to be embarrassed by getting your shit fed to you by Utah.

I hope USC plays Florida too! I love watching rape. You couldn't hang with Urban Meyer's Gators!

suck it, bitch
>> Anonymous
>>483986

Utah and BYU had an invite to join the Pac-10!?!?

lol

Shit conference inviting good teams to play...

Pac-10: Hey, wanna come play with us?
Utah: lol wut
BYU: lawl
Pac-10: Seriously
Utah: STFU
BYU: GTFO
>> Anonymous
The Pac-10 should be renamed to USC and 9 other teams who suck dick.

BIg East, Pac-10, and ACC like to pretend they
>> Zangief !!tg9xMlh9szM
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>> Anonymous
>>484053
how does it feel to be delusional?
>> Zangief !!tg9xMlh9szM
>>484100

I'm not a fan of the SEC?
>> Anonymous
Funny suff. I have no Idea what you guys are agruing about but its great. Keep the good work guys.
>> Anonymous
Florida isn't going to beat 'Bama. And Texas will win the Big 12 Championship, thusly staying ahead of USC or whatever other faggotry people think is going to happen.
>> Barack ? Star !!YvdR7lWl85/
if we had playoffs Lsu would win every year
>> Anonymous
>>484115
unless they play ole miss
>> Anonymous
>>484115

tlalalalatralalallalahapsalallalalahopsallalaahopsalallatralalallaalaaalalallthopsalalalahopsalalalt
ralalalatralalalalalahaaapasasaasaaaa
>> Kilgamayan !2BklmILFiE
>game everyone wants to see
>USC
>Oklahoma
>Florida

lmao what

Get those shit teams out of there. No one wants to see a team that lost at home/on a neutral site in the NC game except homers and faggots and no one likes USC anyway (except homers and faggots).

The only 1-loss team I'd give NC consideration is Texas.
>> Anonymous
>>484153

Every team will be a one-loss team by the end of the season.

Except for Utah, but they don't count.
>> Anonymous
Hipotethical situation, you can vote and you want playoffs, what you do?
>> Anonymous
Vote Utah into championship game!
>> Anonymous
>>484153

WAT.
OU lost to Texas. Texas lost to Tech. OU killed Tech. So they should all have NC consideration, except for Tech because of their late loss.
Get off Texas' cock you fucker.
>> Anonymous
>>484186
The concept of a three way tie is way too complex for the syphilitic brains of UTfags.
>> Kilgamayan !2BklmILFiE
>>484186

OU beat Tech at home. Tech beat Texas at home.

Texas beat OU on a neutral site.

I don't know what to tell you if you can't understand the difference between a road loss and a neutral site loss.

And no, I am not a Texas fan.
>> Anonymous
>>483968
>>484202

lawl fuck yea hahahaah
>> Anonymous
>>484209
Texas beat Oklahoma by 10 in a game Oklahoma was leading until they lost their best defensive player, Ryan Reynolds. The normal backup (Box) was injured and they had to play the one of the worst scholarship players on their team at the most important position in the Oklahoma defense. Box eventually healed up and the defense is almost as good as it was when Reynolds was the starter, as evidenced by last night.

Tech beat Texas and Oklahoma beat the everloving shit out of the team Texas couldn't beat.

The head-to-head doesn't work because by that logic, Tech should be ahead of UT, but that's ridiculous, right? The "neutral" field is more than neutralized by the beat down Oklahoma put on Tech.
>> Anonymous
TUFags listen up

Whorns have trailed 6 quarters this year

Sooners have trailed 1 quarter

I hope FSU beats UF, UF beats Bamer, and we end up with a rematch of OU/UT

Only then will you stfu with this utter faggotry of neutral field blah blah blah

We've got the best loss, you've got the best win.

Oh, and if the south team who's left out, either OU/UT will get the privilege of raping USC in the Fiesta Bowl.
>> Kilgamayan !2BklmILFiE
>>484215

The beatdown suggested nothing but Texas > OU > Tech and that the Tech victory over Texas was nothing more than an HFA win.

Think of it this way. You have three possible combinations: Texas > OU > Tech, Tech > Texas > OU and OU > Tech > Texas.

- Could Texas being better than Tech be argued for? Sure, the game was in Lubbock and Tech barely squeaked out a win at the last moment.
- Could Tech being better than Oklahoma be argued for? It *could*, given the game was in Oklahoma, but it was a very large margin of victory, so it would be a hard argument to buy.
- Could Oklahoma being better than Texas be argued for? No. Texas beat Oklahoma straight-up on a fair field. (Injuries are not an excuse.)

Texas > OU > Tech is therefore the most logical conclusion.
>> Anonymous
>>484222
I so want to see this
>> Anonymous
Ah, so the only "logical" way to look at this is TU>OU?

OU lead TU by 3 fucking quarters.

TT lead TU by 3 fucking quarters

To make the assertion that it's clear in any way is total bullshit.

Tejas did beat OU. Congrats! You feel the sense of pride because beating OU was the best win of the year by any team. Hang your hat on it.

OU can hang their hat on having the best loss of any team in the nation. They lead the game for 3 qrt, lose a key kog in the wheel, and whala, you guys win.

I take no pride in going to the CCG over TU. It's a fag way to the NCG, but it's going to happen with a big win over OSU. So when you start crying, know that we feel dirty too. We want to play the best team in the country, and the three best teams are OU, Florida, and TU in any order.

BUT to sit here and act like this is blatently obvious is gay. Really really gay. Take two dicks in the ass at the same time gay
>> Kilgamayan !2BklmILFiE
>OU lead TU by 3 fucking quarters.

No they didn't, Texas had the lead at the end of the 3rd.

And the end of the 4th, which is really the only important quarter to have the lead after.

They also outscored OU in the 2nd quarter, for whatever that's worth (hint: it's worth as much as leading after any quarter that's not the 4th is).

Texas > OU is the only logical conclusion, yes. Feel free to provide some logic that proves OU > Texas, though. And do keep in mind that the Transitive Property does not apply to sports while you're doing it.
>> Anonymous
>>484223

So one games outcome doesn't matter because it was *only* a few points? Florida's loss was ONLY one point, thus it shouldn't count either. Florida Gators 13-0!

A win is a win, a loss is a loss.
>> Kilgamayan !2BklmILFiE
>>484252

Florida lost at home to an unranked. They deserve nothing close to the NC game. Period.
>> Anonymous
Feel free to provide some logic that proves OU > Texas?

Feel free to provide some logic that proves Texas > TTU

It's a three way tie!

There are really 4 elite teams in the Big12 South

No one has beat someone at their place yet

Bedlam will decide the Big12 South

In regard to my logic that OU is better than UT, this results in the three way tie circle jerk. I agree that if I were a whorn, I'd claim scoreboard, and you're justified in doing so, but TTU can claim scoreboard on you, and so on....

It's going to come down to OU / OSU

You guys got beat by TTU, got a real scare from OSU, and dominated Mizzou

We've stomped everyone but TU

Congrats!

I'll send you some tissue when the bcs rankings come out after the Bedlam game
>> Kilgamayan !2BklmILFiE
>>484262
>Feel free to provide some logic that proves Texas > TTU

>>484223isn't an airtight proof, but it's the closest thing possible.

Unless you have something better, which I'm *still* waiting for.
>> Kilgamayan !2BklmILFiE
Feel free to continue suggesting I'm a Texas fan, by the way. Maybe if you hint at it enough, it'll be true!
>> Anonymous
>>484250
could you be riding shothorn cock any harder?

Three. Way. Tie. Oklahoma did lose to Texas, but Texas lost to Tech, and Tech lost to Oklahoma. That's why we have this situation. If it was a two-way tie, that win would break the tie, but the logic is bullshit because it ignores why the tie-breaker is done by rank.

Oklahoma's defense was stopping Texas with ease while Ryan Reynolds was in there. The defense went on to give up twice as many yards per play and so many points once Brandon Crow replaced Reynolds after the ACL tear. Texas won that "neutral" field game because Oklahoma was effectively playing 10 1/2 men on defense.

Oklahoma embarrassed the team Texas couldn't beat. They didn't just beat Tech, they effectively 55-19'd them.

I'm not trying to say there is a clear winner in this tie-breaker because it's a fucking clusterfuck and Texas and OU still have a chance to lose or impress voters, but if OU loses to OSU, does that suddenly make Tech a better team than Texas? Head-to-head says yes, but Texas will be ranked 6 or so spots higher and people will be riding their cock for the NCG despite not playing in their own CCG. Suppose the ridiculous happens and OSU suddenly enters the four-way tie fray. Is OSU suddenly better than the Tech team that embarrassed them almost as badly as OU did the Raiders?
>> Anonymous
>>484250

UT trailed OU for 48 of the 60 minutes

UT trailed TTU for 58.5 of the 60 minutes
>> Anonymous
Looks like OU jumped Texas in AP Poll

STupid dipshit writers and they stupid dipshit poll. TEXAS is the best team in the nation and everyone knows it. TEXAS beat the gooners like a redheaded stepchild and got screwed in lubbock. OU proved TTU is overrated and the TU loss was a fluke.
>> Anonymous
>>484299
>got screwed in Lubbock

oh my god, do you seriously believe that?
>> Anonymous
>>484307here, I just realized I was trolled hard.

>>484299
10/10
>> Anonymous
If you didn't like the Harris Poll, you're gonna hate the coaches

OU jumped to 2 in Coaches Poll

Sorry UT, please pistol whip USC in the Fiesta
>> Anonymous
I can taste the UT tears now.

They're delicious.
>> Anonymous
I feel sorry for UT

BoomerSooner
>> Anonymous
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MY TEAM IS TEH BEST IN NATION I DESERVE CHAMPIONSHIP FOR EASY WINS WTF BCS FAG SHIT BALLS
>> Anonymous
>>483957
You say that Bama is fake? Last time I checked the Tide plays and beats ranked teams. USC plays bitch teams and gets their stats boosted from playing such weak teams.
>> Anonymous
o well time for usc to get their yearly sacrificial lamb in the bowl game. sigh. i miss the good old days when they actually got good bowl games. we may not always have won (fuck u vince young you pussy) but they were at least good games
>> Anonymous
Stop calling the BCS Champion the "National Champion".

When all conferences are a part of the BCS you might be able to call the winner a national champion. Until then, they are Champs of the 6 Chosen Conferences.

Playoff is the only way.
>> Anonymous
>>484465
Bawwww do you go to a lulzy non-BCS a school.
bawwwww

I'm a coloradofag so try and talk down about their academics
>> Anonymous
I think everyone needs to realize that Home Field Advantage means A LOT in CFB. All you heard before the game last night was how Leach was 0-4 in Norman, and Stoops record at home.

I think if Texas played Tech on a neutral field, Texas would have won and if it was played in Austin, they would have mopped the floor with Tech like OU did.
>> Anonymous
What's your excuse for OSU giving you a hell of a game at your place....FAGGOT
>> Anonymous
>>484517
inb4 t-sip silence
>> Anonymous
For any delusional whornfans out there...

Gameday just announced they'll be in Stillwater covering the OU game.

This much national exposure coupled with jumping you in both polls.....

Have fun in the Fiesta Bowl, maybe you'll have better luck out there than my sooners

(we do suck in Arizona)
>> Anonymous
>>484517
I think I forgot to say home field advantage means a lot more in conference games because they play each other every year, a record gets built up like Leach being 0-4 in Norman, which ultimately has an effect on the team psyche. Out of conference games like when UT played OSU, home field advantage means something but not as much because the teams don't have a track record of playing each other so the whole "Your team has a horrible record in..." doesn''t mean much and they're less likely to be intimidated by a raucous home crowd.

Also is the fact that programs like OSU are used to playing big time national games, Tech had never really been featured in primetime before this year, let alone three weeks in a row.
>> Negrodamus the 9000th !3GqYIJ3Obs
>>484552
OH U
>> Anonymous
>>484564
wat

Oklahoma State...big time? and out of conference?

What the fuck are you going on about?
>> Anonymous
Yes, I went to a non-BCS school, does that change the fact that the winner of the BCS Championship Game is exactly that, the BCS Champion? Give the lowly non-BCS teams a fair fucking shake.

inb4 BSUfag or Utahfag, my team has been ranked once, for one week, and promptly lost the next week. We will likely never be ranked again.

And who the fuck said anything about Colorado's academics?
>> Anonymous
>>484587
Never mind, when he said OSU I thought he meant Ohio State.
>> Anonymous
Samefag here/

I was talking about UT's 4 point win over OSU at HOME.

Gameday at Stillwater for a primetime expose on OU and the national championship.

Like I said in the beginning, I feel dirty getting to the NCG like this.
>> Anonymous
OSU - Okie Lite
>> Anonymous
>>484266
Something better than "but Texas beat OU on a neutral field and the other games were at home." How about aggregate score in the three head-to-head games?

Oklahoma: +34
Texas: +4
Tech: -38

Playing at home may help, but that doesn't give you a fucking 30 point swing.
>> Anonymous
>>484635
I do too, but if we had a playoff this wouldn't be a problem.
>> Anonymous
2008 NC Game

Oklahoma vs Florida
>> Anonymous
>>483625
boise state utah and ball state are all jokes that haven't played shit... perfect example: utah beat michigan by only 3
>> Anonymous
>>484035
byu another example of a shitty team that plays nobody... its laughable when these fucking mormon fags think that by playing teams like wyoming and idaho and winning they suddenly become worthy of praise
>> Anonymous
>>484861
Penn State lost to IOWA
Florida lost to OLE MISS
USC lost to OREGON STATE (which Utah beat)
Tech lost to a Oklahoma, a great team, but they got railroaded by Oklahoma. This is iffy.
Alabama, Texas, and OU deserve to be ahead, but those first three teams have some joke losses. Utah has beaten more currently ranked teams than any of the first three I listed.
>> Anonymous
>>483970
if the mwc is so good then why did byu beat washington by 1 point
>> Anonymous
>>484895
TCU and brigham young are ranked, wow epic wins... you beat two teams that are only ranked for the same reason, because they beat other shitty teams.
>> Anonymous
It will not be an issue because Terrence Cody will break Tebow's legs.
>> Anonymous
MWC > Pac 10

MWC: 7
Pac 10: 1

just give Oregon State's Rose Bowl spot to Utah. They already beat them head to head.
>> Anonymous
>>484255
Youre retarded if you actually believe this.
>> Anonymous
>>484915
Because BYU is over-rated and Washington still had Locker and it was a home game.

If UW had Locker the whole season, they'd be 4-8/5-7. He WAS the offense.
>> Anonymous
>>484947
i cant wait until utah loses by 50+ in a bcs game
>> Anonymous
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>>484958
>> Anonymous
>>484974
oh boy ill pretend to give a shit

how is alex smith doing?
>> Anonymous
Utah fags need to gtfo.
>> Anonymous
The MWC has been better than the ACC, Big East, and Pac-10 by far this season. Utah came out on top and deserves a BCS bowl bid so everyone can just QQ and deal with it. The way Utah played last night they are gonna dominate whichever bowl game they go to. Lou Holtz may have a couple of screws loose but he has said that Utah will go undefeated this whole year and that they have the best talent of a non BCS school.
>> Anonymous
>>485305
what do you have to go on with this statement, that the teams in these conferences all beat each other whereas theres 2 teams above the rest of the shit mwc that beat up on the rest of the conference? im not even an acc fan but utah would lose at least 3 games in that conference
>> Anonymous
>>485321
MWC is 7-1 vs. the Pac 10. Utah beat the likely conference champion.
>> Anonymous
>>485325
wow the pac 10 is so good after all, with big bad usc and a bunch of piles of shit
>> Anonymous
>>485331
Who cares about the team that couldn't win its supposedly crappy conference?
>> Anonymous
>>485321
Name on team in the ACC that could beat Utah just one...
>> Anonymous
>>485355
possibly any of them, utah almost lost to Michigan for fucks sake
>> Anonymous
>>485338
id love to see utah vs usc... the game would be over by the end of the first quarter
>> Anonymous
Ya Utah almost lost to michigan in the 1st game of the season... Michigan lost to App State last year and still beat florida at the end of the year... The first game of the year is always tough for every team. At least Utah doesn't play cupcake teams like ALL OF THE SEC and ALL OF THE Big 10
>> Anonymous
>>484255

Actually you might wanna check the new AP poll lol.
>> Anonymous
Texas = butthurt
>> Anonymous
Out there in the world beyond HS & junior college, do you know what burns a lot of the anti-BCS people?

It's the computer polls.

Without all that "strength of schedule" nonsense a team like Utah or Boise would be 4-5 places higher. It doesn't matter that the average of the computer polls that are part of the BCS tend to fall right along the same numbers as the human poles.

Here's my wild suggestion for a playoff system. If you're ranked in the BCS top 10 at the end of the regular season AND you've won your conference, you get in. Elsewise, you'd better had one of the two above qualifications, with bids preferential to unbeaten teams, then conference runner-ups, then BCS ranking. Third, every conference plays a championship game. Don't and your conference is excluded.

Make it 16 teams. It'll add 4 games to the season (5 if your conference doesn't already have a championship game).

After 4-6 years of the undefeated non-powerhouse teams getting knocked out in the first round they'll be even more butthurt that the playoff system isn't fair.

tl;dr The smaller teams will probably whine 'til the end of time that the system is weighted against them.
>> Anonymous
>>485387
LOL @ utah doesn't play cupcakes...

michigan... cupcake this year
unlv... ROFL HARD TEAM
utah state... ZOMG HOW R WE GOIN 2 WIN
air force... THEY HAV AIR PLAENS
weber state... seriously weber state
oregon state... the biggest challenge of the year, if we win this were in the bcs for sure
wyoming... dude this state has yellowstone national park they play football against grizzly bears they have to be good
colorado state... this teams a perennial powerhouse, i don't see us winning this game by more than a field goal
new mexico... another good team
tcu... HEY GUYZ THERE RANKED AND THEY BEAT TEAMS LIEK SMU and BYU; that game against oklahoma didnt really happen lozl
san diego state... hay marshall faulk went here one time so they have to be good
brigham young... uh oh the mighty mormons that used the power of jesus to strike down washington with a 15 yard penalty leading to a missed PAT so they could win

thats one tough schedule
>> Anonymous
Texas still has a chance to get in to the National championship game if Mizzou beats Ou in the big12 champ game. Which will cause even more controversy considering they won't even play for their own conference championship
>> Anonymous
Let's just all stop and remember the 2007 Fiesta Bowl...

Remember when Boise St. made OU look like a fucking joke?

Hahaha. Its almost like 18-1. You can't ever forget what was possibly the most awesome game ever.
>> Anonymous
>>485443
yea they blew out the sooners... beat them on a trick play
>> sage Anonymous
>>485437
>>485437

holy FUCK i lol'd
>> Anonymous
>>485451

And it was fucking awesome, troll.
>> Go Gators !Ub4WNF3.P6
>>484853
>>484853
This.
And Florida will win it.
>> Anonymous
>>485437
LOL THE CITADEL, utah can't change their conference schedule numnuts... at least they schedule BCS schools to play the FIRST week of the season when they don't really know their team yet. If the SEC is the best conference in the country or the big 12 is the best team in the country than explain this plz

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/conferences/schedule?confId=8

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/conferences/schedule?confId=4
>> Anonymous
>>485468
weber state
>> Anonymous
>>485451

And its important to note Boise St.'s schedule that season was pretty fucking easy...and they still beat OU.

I'm pointing out that your whole "their schedule isn't hard argument" is pretty hit or miss considering that Fiesta bowl game.
>> Anonymous
>>485471
Ugh why do you make me do this?

Iowa State 44, South Dakota State 17
Oklahoma State 39, Washington State 13
No. 4 Oklahoma 57, Chattanooga 2
No. 11 Texas 52, Florida Atlantic 10
No. 12 Texas Tech 49, Eastern Washington 24
No. 14 Kansas 40, Florida International 10
Nebraska 47, Western Michigan 24
Arkansas State 18, Texas A&M 14
Kansas State 45, North Texas 6
Nebraska 35, San Jose State 12
No. 14 Kansas 29, Louisiana Tech 0
Oklahoma State 56, Houston 37
No. 12 Texas Tech 35, Nevada 19
No. 10 Texas 42, UTEP 13

must i go on?
>> Anonymous
>>484053
i almost choked to death laughing.
>> Anonymous
>>485468
Just my 2 cents...

Utah is a good team and I give them credit since they can't bring in the kind of recruits that teams like Oklahoma, USC, Texas, etc bring in every year; having said that, in order to get respect you need to play a top ten caliber team, not just "top 25 caliber teams" (Brigham Young, TCU, Oregon State)... To their credit I'm sure that when they had Michigan scheduled for game one, it was a chance to prove how good they were, however that obviously didn't work out because Michigan fell apart... whether they can make a BCS game is debatable, and the answer should be yes, especially if Oregon State wins against Oregon and gets the Rose Bowl, but I can't see how they can go to the NC when they haven't played an elite team.
>> Anonymous
can't wait for tech to lose to baylor and listen to butthurt OU fans bawww about being locked out of the big 12 title game.
>> Anonymous
>>485437
WIN
>> Anonymous
>>485521

Who has Florida beat?

LSU damn near lost to fucking TROY...jesus they suck my nuts

UGA, the most overrated team in the country

I know Ole Miss would be the 5th best in the Big12

Stupid gator faggots lost to Michigan last year.

Tim Tebow is a nigger in sheeps clothing, spreading the virus of god in his spare time. Tebow the fundamentalist.
>> Anonymous
These arguments are EXACTLY why the BCS is fucking gay. "LOL team A beat team B!!!11one BUT WHO DID TEAM C BEAT TELL ME THAT LOL!!! THE POLLS LOL THE COMPUTER LOL STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE LOL LOL OOL O IOIUGH PIUFHBKLJSNIUH"


Fuck off. You're a one-loss team. So is the other team. IF ONLY THERE WERE SOME MAGICAL WAY TO SETTLE THIS ON THE FIELD

Until then it's all style points. WTF is this, figure skating? Because that's what it comes down to.
>> Anonymous
The BCS will officially be proved to be bull shit when VT loses to Virginia next week and Georgia Tech wins the ACC and gets in a BCS bowl. Yeah, a team with at the very least three loses gets in a BCS bowl while other teams get shit. And you know what? I'm foreseeing UGA losing to Tech next week, which will result in Tech ranking higher.

Fuck the overrating of the SEC. Fuck BCS.
>> Anonymous
>>485597
there are worse things than ga tech getting in a bcs bowl
>> Anonymous
Like the BCS itself.
>> Anonymous
>>485618
I know. I'm actually a GT fan myself, but the fact that the chances are pretty high that they will is sad for the BCS.
>> Anonymous
The fact of the matter is until a playoff system is implemented there will always be bawwwing about who's better than who and why the BCS system sucks. The only thing is ESPN signed on for all of the BCS bowls including the national championship through 2014 which means we won't see a playoff until at least 2015.

So for now QQ
>> Anonymous
>>485572
michigan was clearly a different team with a different coach
>> Anonymous
>>485698


OH COOL. GOOD THING CAPTAIN FACTOID IS HERE TO TELL US ALL SOMETHING WE KNEW WEEKS AGO.

Let's all just point out the many flaws of the BCS and LOL merrily plz.
>> Anonymous
>>485488
I don't know what you're trying to prove but Utah would lose 4+ games in the Big 12
>> Anonymous
>>485757


This here is the main issue I have with the BCS. It's based on what "could" happen. Teams are ranked on probabilities and that's all we have to go on. Team A would PROBABLY beat team B. Team C is PROBABLY worse than B...so A and B play for the title.
>> Anonymous
>>485740
I am totally content with Loling at our stupid BCS system i was just pointing out we have about 7 more years of it so people need to get used to it, so if you think its old now... roflmao
>> Anonymous
People shouldn't open their mouths about things they don't know.
Utah is undefeated, and has the toughest strength of schedule of any of the unbeatens (besides bama).

TCUs only loss at the time we played them was OU.

We beat Oregon St., TCU, and BYU. Regardless of what you *think* about these programs, Oregon St. had just come off upsetting USC, and TCU and BYU were both ranked in the top 25 when we beat them. Not pretty wins all the time, but a W nonetheless.

Do I think that UTAH should be playing for the NCS?
No. Most of the teams ahead of them are better programs, especially those in the big 12 south.

Texas beat OU on a neutral field.

TT beat texas in lubbock, on a last second play that is going to be remembered by voters.

What remains to be seen is if the voters will remember that this loss was the last of four consecutive games against top ten teams.

Besides, season isn't over yet. OU still has to travel to Okie St., and Texas still has to play A&M.

All i know, is that if BOTH Florida and USC are in the NCS, it proves the conspiracy. To leave whoever emerges from the Big 12 south would be absolute bullshit.

With USC losing to Oregon St., and Florida losing to Ole Miss... but I've seen USC balls gargled harder in my life.

And to all of you unintelligent fucks calling UTAH mormonfagcollege...Thats BYU.

Why do you think we hate those faggots so much?
>> Anonymous
>>485874
Amen brotha, yes some mormons go to Utah but SLC is the most liberal part of the state. Outside of SLC is the most disturbing brainwashed populus you can come across. It's called the Holy War but it is much more than than religion its actually more about church and state and fuck that church
>> Anonymous
Anything from Utah is mormanfag!

Texas may have lost in the last seconds, but they lead the game for less than two minutes, so fuck that fagtalk.

USC is so far out of the picture, not even ESPN can bring them back.

Florida / Oklahoma in the champ game
>> Anonymous
I can't believe some of you faggots want Utah or Boisie St. in the title game. You don't get to play for the title when St. Mary's School for the Blind is your rivalry game.
>> Anonymous
>>485905
Lol i know people think that but i'm just glad its not true i've lived here my whole life and i can not stand mormonfags as much as anyone else, they're so fuckin high and mighty. they think byu sports are on a mission from god or some shit, i hate it
>> Anonymous
>>485925
I'm a utefag and i don't think they should be in the NC game
>> Anonymous
I love how all you small school fags wave the Boise/OU game as your roadmap to success.

Boise was ranked higher than the three loss Sooners with a nagger WR as a qb.

In regard to you MormonFags from Utah....

Just as everyone from Iraq is a Terrorist, every black person is a nigger, everyone living in Utah is a mormonfag.

I live in a nice house, but since I'm in OK, I'm guilty of being trailer trash by default
>> Anonymous
>>485975
Well when you put it that way i think im gonna call up my nearest ummm.... ward and get goin on my conversion to pure mormonfaggotry
>> Anonymous
>>486041

If it's any consolation, you get special underwear and can marry as many bitches as you'd like...and age is not a factor!
>> Anonymous
hmmm... sounds like a good time to me

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>> Anonymous
>>485874
the only problem with losing to one loss TCU was that they hadn't played anyone either... its an infinite loop of playing garbage teams
>> Anonymous
sweeping generalities just make everything so much easier
>> Anonymous
>>486082
I think that needs its own thread.
>> Zangief !!tg9xMlh9szM
     File :-(, x)
Texas should get the nod over OU because they beat them at a neutral field and lost to Tech away

Home field advantage is a huge thing in the college


Regardless, college football is still figure skating
>> Anonymous
>>487485
TRUMPETS FUCK YEAH!
>> Anonymous
>>483969

I know this was years ago but that makes me RAAGGEEEE so much it's not even funny. The fact that this is even possible under this system pretty much proves that the BCS system needs to go.
>> Zangief !!tg9xMlh9szM
>>487571

Utah should have been the champs that year
>> Anonymous
>>484250

ITT: Trip fag that didn't watch the game. It was blatantly obvious to anybody actually watching that OU was by far the better team than UT. They came close several times to turning the game into a rout and it took a minor miracle and some injuries for UT to pull out a win.

Also your logic regarding the UT/Tech game is equally stupid. Yah Tech barely pulled out the win but that was only after UT had also almost barely pulled out a win. If you had watched THAT game you would be able to tell that Tech had completely dominated the whole game. Also, fuck your HFA argument; their stadium is small as shit.
>> Anonymous
>>487485
for why that isn't going to happen, see
>>487401
>> Anonymous
Why does't the Pac-10 just pick up Boise State and Utah
(and perhaps Fresno if they are willing to drop someone) and add a title game?
If the newbs well, they have put life back into the conference, if not, they have effectively shut the MWC/WAC fags up.
>> Zangief !!tg9xMlh9szM
>>487661

Because USC would have 2 losses every year
>> Warriorsfag !mOntaR93q.
>>487661
what about byu?
>> Anonymous
>>487661
>Why does't the Pac-10 just pick up Boise State and Utah

Because they'd get destroyed in every other sport (basketball, baseball, swimming) just to get a little more recognition in one sport (football).

It's not worth it to the university's athletic department as a whole.
>> Anonymous
>>487642
UT was only down 1 point at half time, before reynolds was even injured dumbass. Don't even try to pretend that UT wasn't able to put points on the board before that.

And by your logic UT should be excused for losing to tech because Brian Orakpo got injured and quan cosby was injured at the very start and didn't even play the game.
>> Anonymous
>>487704


Not worth it? I'm sure the boost in football would easily trump anything else. Plus, how would it not help recruiting in other sports to be part of a major conference? You don't make much sense here.
>> Anonymous
>>487707
Football doesn't make as much money as the other sports, and actually costs most programs, siphoning funds away from other sports due to high upkeep costs.

As an assistant to a DA in a small-market conference, I've seen conference-hopping destroy small schools who hop to big-name conferences for one sport. They're hot, so they are competetive for a year or so, then languish in mediocrity while their other sports suffer.

A big misnomer about collegiate athletics is that football is the big-money program, but unless you're getting crazy alumni donations, it makes significantly less revenue than Basketball, and even Volleyball in some cases due to the insane cost of upkeeping a stadium opposed to a gym.

tl;dr overhead on football is more than you think.
>> Anonymous
>>487707
>Plus, how would it not help recruiting in other sports to be part of a major conference?

Getting ballstomped is not a good way to improve recruiting. Many kids would rather go to a school with a legacy of mid-major championships rather than go to a Washington-esque terribad, mired in a big conference.
>> Anonymous
Want an example of this small conference vs. big conference?

Compare two old SWC teams TCU and Baylor. Where Baylor is now is where TCU would be if they had joined the Big 12 and the same holds true for teams like utah and byu joining big conferences.
>> Anonymous
>>487746
You can't assume TCU would be as bad as Baylor. They are in an exponentially nicer city than Waco, making recruiting easier. and could just as easily be a Texas Tech as they could a Baylor.
>> Anonymous
>>487750

You sure as fuck can. When the conference was formed Baylor was a much better team than TCU; thats why they were invited to join the big 12 and tcu wasn't. The guy talking about how ass stompings hurting recruiting was dead on.
>> Anonymous
>>487746
I won't argue that Baylor's move was a huge success. However, I will argue that for every Baylor, there are several Utah State's.

For single-sport schools with delusions of grandeur, I would be reluctant to endorse a full-scale move to gain football recruits at the cost of the other programs. Baylor's switch worked well because they have a very well-rounded athletics program. But for schools who are dominating in a single sport, throwing their other programs to the wolves is not something I could get behind.
>> Anonymous
>>487758
Yep. Baylor helps the Big12 in Baseball and Track tremendously.
>> Anonymous
>>487766
HEY

don't forget women's basketball
>> Anonymous
>>487766
You know I was talking about basketball. Don't be a jerk.
>> Anonymous
So the judge of a succesful program now is sucking but managing to have the players murder each other? okay.
>> Anonymous
Why don't they just make the MWC a BCS conference and add another BCS bowl to all of this? Its safe to say they deserve a bid every year, because they go out and beat other BCS conference teams.
>> Anonymous
UNDENIABLE FACTS ITT:

-Florida will destroy Alabama, then get its shit kicked in by a Big XII team to be named later
-the ACC and Big East are fucking terrible why they have a BCS lock is a mystery. Merge the conferences to contain the faggotry
-the only reason the Pac-10 has a lock is because of USC, the rest of the conference sucks shit. the west coast should sink into the sea
-mormon league mountain west is better than 3 BCS conferences. force Boise State to join MWC, give BCS status to MWC, problem fucking solved
-Ball State is the #1 team in the country
>> Anonymous
>>488052
>UNDENIABLE FACTS ITT:
>-Ball State is the #1 team in the country

i lol'd

0/10
>> Anonymous
>>488057
CHIRP CHIRP MOTHER-FUCKER
>> Anonymous
>>485579
>IF ONLY THERE WERE SOME MAGICAL WAY TO SETTLE THIS ON THE FIELD

roflmfao
>> Anonymous
the mountain west could add boise state and fresno state and have a conference championship game every year. then they would really deserve a bcs bid each year
>> Anonymous
boise state is the gayest team in the country
>> Anonymous
>>488132
>the mountain west could add the WAC and then call themselves the WAC and have a WAC Championship Game that means something
>> Anonymous
>>488150
hell yes

wac supremacy once again
>> Anonymous
no weaseling necessary...uf goes down to fsu this saturday in "The Choke at Doak 2"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U14orBc2xws

link related for those of you who have no idea what the choke at doak is
>> Anonymous
when does the aauto sage start...fuuuuuuuuuuuu
>> Anonymous
>>488150
only works if you trim the fat

take Utah, BYU, TCU, New Mexico, Air Force, Colorado State, UNLV, abandon the rest

kick out Utah State, Idaho, San Jose State

West: Boise State, Fresno State, Hawaii, Nevada, UNLV, BYU, Utah
East: TCU, Air Force, Colorado State(replace with Tulsa or Houston if possible), Louisiana Tech(replace with Tulsa or Houston if possible), New Mexico, New Mexico State

and you can call it the MWAC
>> Anonymous
>>488526
I will LIVE for the day NMSU goes BCS bowling.
>> Anonymous
>>488526
all wrong

make eight BCS conferences, but they have to align with lower conferences. Then, add relegation, so the worst team in the top division drops down and the top division in the lower conference moves up.

So say the Big Ten aligns with the MAC, and in 2009, Indiana drops to the MAC and Ball State moves up into the Big Ten.

ACC - Sun Belt
Big East - CAA
Big Ten - MAC
Big 12 - SWAC
Conference USA - Ohio Valley
Mountain West - Big Sky
PAC 10 - WAC
SEC - Southern
>> Anonymous
>>488621
I support that motion.
>> Commissioner Red !5gFoSxriW2
>>488621

Can oyu imagine a world in which there are three Arizona colleges in the Pac 10?
>> Anonymous
>>488621
There are only 11 I-A conferences. Also a lot of the I-AA teams don't want to play in I-A because of requirements for attendance and the costs of running a program at that level. your plan fixed for reality...

ACC >> Independants (Navy up; Duke down)
SEC >> Sun Belt (Troy up; Arkansas down)
Pac-10 >> Mountain West (Utah up; Washington down)
Big 12 >> WAC (Boise State up ; Iowa St. down)
Big 10(11) >> MAC (Ball State up; Indiana down)
Big East >> Conference USA (E. Carolina up ; Syracuse down)

Now of course this is all bullshit as the ACC would never lose Duke basketball just because their football team sucks, and non-conference games are now set up tears if not a decade in advance. But it's nice to dream.
>> Anonymous
>>488664
not that I disagree with you, but

1) Fuck Independents. Make it a rule, you want to be eligible for the Championship, join a division.

2) If you win your I-AA division, you get offered the invitation to move up, but you can decline, in which case the invite goes to the number 2 team. I am sure a few schools will refuse the move up for lots of different reasons.

3) Football only. Having divisions across all sports is anachronistic and outdated.

4) Make it eight divisions with dedicated bowl games. The Rose Bowl goes back to being the PAC-10 versus the Big 10 every year. But the winners of those four bowls play each other, and those winners play for the National Championship.
>> Anonymous
>>488723
Out of order response.
3. Deal.

1. There is an issue here of the NCAA regulations that require a team to play at least a year or some time as an independant while they're switching from I-AA to I-A (see example: Western Kentucky who will eventually be Sun Belt)

2. I'd rather see the six divisions, with I-AA teams that win given the ability to jump into a second tier conference. Richmond or James Madison jumping straight into the Big East would be slaughtered.

4. Big bowls get the right to keep one of their classic teams + add 2 open spots in case of a USC/SEC loser/Big 12 South situation.
>> Anonymous
ACC (gets App. State) -> Southern (gets Duke)
Big East (gets SC. State) -> MEAC (gets Syracuse)
Big 10 (gets Ball State) -> MAC (gets Indiana)
Big 12 (gets Central Arkansas) -> Southland (gets Iowa State)
C-USA (gets E. Kentucky) -> Ohio Valley (gets Southern Meth.)
Mountain West (gets Montana) -> Big Sky (gets San Diego State)
PAC 10 (gets Boise State) -> WAC (gets Washington)
SEC (gets Troy) -> Sun Belt (gets Miss. State)
>> Anonymous
Yeah, they'd have to change that independent rule thingy.

I think if a team doesn't want to move up to a top conference because they feel they won't be competitive, that's legit.

If you only have four conferences play for the National Championship, soon enough somebody would get left out and the howling would start again. And how do you organize a playoff between six teams?
>> Anonymous
you cant do move ups and move downs it fucks the other sports(srly fuck them anyways) but it would never work what they should do is
utah/byu/bosie 2 of them join the pac10(rename it) have a title game
ballstate or App state(to spite Michigan would produce lulz) and Norte dame join the big10(rename it)
title game and we dont have this bullshit no title game and have a shitty lucky team play a bcs bowl to get blown out
>> Anonymous
>>488768
Maybe I wasn't clear there. All six major conference's champions get into the playoffs + 2 at-large teams. Those teams are sent to what are now the 4 "major" bowls, depending on their conference (like it's done now). Winners play each other. Win.
>> Anonymous
>>488789
no at large teams

at large bids are bullshit

you want to play for the championship? win your conference tough guy