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Anonymous
okay...

what the fuck just happened. how the fuck could the nazis possibly win.

IT MAKES NO SENSE
>> Anonymous
By playing football instead of just admiring themselves at the mirror, Mr Troll.
>> Anonymous
Ballack diving and crying every time someone touched him helped alot.
>> Anonymous
>>172980
It's funny you say that since Germany played shit.
>> Anonymous
scoring goals > shooting wide from long range shots.
>> Anonymous
We are no nazis. WE KICKED YOUR ASS! HAHAHAHA
>> Anonymous
>>172980
I object, Pepe and that sandniggers, what was his name..the one with the unibrow are the ugliest players of the history of soccer.
>> Anonymous
I'm no fan of Portugal, but fuck, how can people support Germany before Portugal?
>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
>>172958
hitler helped from Hell, just like allah helped the turks
>> Anonymous
majestuous free kicks
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173013
I don't get it either
I mean, their entire country is nazis
>> Anonymous
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>>173008
lol wut?
>> Anonymous
So much butthurt, so much bawwwing...

Britfag here, and I was supporting ze Germans. Feels a bit like dividing by zero, but now Portufail are out, I can go back to hating them.
>> Anonymous
>>173013
>>173034
whatever we won.
>> Anonymous
nazis > pussies
>> Anonymous
>>173034
keep crying tripfag.
Google Godwin's Law please, thanks.

If you can't beat em with skill try to insult them with outdated stereotypes eh?
>> Anonymous
>>173034
And everybody on 4chan loves the nazis. How long have you been here, idiot? Just GTFO.
>> Anonymous
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>>173034
THE WORLD DOESN'T STAND A CHANCE AGAINST NAZI SCIENCCCCE~!
>> Anonymous
Hitler is looking down from heaven smiling
>> Anonymous
>>172995
Football is made also of will power and being concrete, not just of good moves.
Germany tried to win, Portugal were dancing instead of playing.
>> Anonymous
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do you think germans look like this?
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173050
lol
does Godwin's law apply when talking about Germany?

can you talk about Germany at all on the internet?
>> Anonymous
>>172958

welcome to the real football.
>> Anonymous
>>173082
accurate depiction of the average german
>> Anonymous
>>173095
welcome to 7 decades ago
>> Anonymous
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Leave germany to me
>> Gentleman
It's pretty simple to win the Euro, in fact.

Start with a base of several World Cups and previous Euro wins (not essential, but improves the overall result). Then add poles.
>> Anonymous
>>173087
You can talk about Germany all you want. You just can't mention the Nazis to make a point.

You can however talk favourably about them. Look:

FUCK YEAH! NAZI SUPERMEN ARE SUPERIOR TO ALL OTHER RACES!

See?
>> Anonymous
>>173112
gb2bench
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173145
so I have to pretend that the country isn't made up of violent racists... because of Godwin's law?
>> Anonymous
>>173164
maybe portofags should get themselves some violent racists then. they sure play like shit without them.
>> Anonymous
>>172958
Nazis can only lose if they play against England, USA, France and Russia at once.
>> Anonymous
>>173164
Cry more. It's not nazi germany anymore you fucking idiot. If you would step out of your little hole underground and stop spewing racist stereotypes you'd notice that.
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173181
that's a fair enough suggestion, I suppose
I just won't want them to win at anything.
>> Anonymous
>>173187
Can't you recognize trolling when you see it?
What the fuck are you doing on 4chan?
>> Anonymous
>>173195
playing the troll card now eh?
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173187
how is saying that Germans are nazis racist?

and even if it's not nazi Germany anymore, the people there are still nazis and the sons of nazis

but then, since when have kids gotten their views about the world from their parents?
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173202
I lol'd
>> Anonymous
>>173164
delicious butthurt tripfag
>> Anonymous
>>173203
>how is saying that Germans are nazis racist?
OK now i know you are either a troll or a goddamned idiot.
>> Anonymous
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>>173203
>how is saying that Germans are nazis racist?
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173208
wut?
It's not like I called white people nazis
>> Anonymous
>>173215
racism doesn't end at skincolor... goddamn google it up will ya?
>> ?
>>173215

The Germans are a sub-race of European descent.

You are also an idiot.
>> Anonymous
As a German, I can't help but laugh at people who still propagate this "GERMANS ARE ALL NAZIS" crap.

Even more at those who believe in that though.
>> Anonymous
>>173215
it's okay, i also believe you still have slaves COS NOTHING EVER CHANGES
>> Anonymous
>>173164
Yes, you have to. You are on the Internet. Abide by its rules or fear its wrath.
>> Anonymous
>>173215
White people are the main population in Germany.
You called the population of Germany nazis.
You called white people nazis.

> LOGIC IS FOOLPROOF
>> Anonymous
>>173203
>since when have kids gotten their views about the world from their parents?
"Our youth is down at heel and undisciplined. The young people don't listen to their parents anymore. The end of the world is near."
- Cuneiform text from Ur, about 2000 BC
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173218
I thought it had to do with race
This seems pointlessly semantic in any case

and the truth is that Germany was a country full of racists, those racist had children who are probably racist too
>> Anonymous
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the germans won.

not because they were playing exceptionaly well, but because portugal just forgot to play.
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173234
I was talking about the nationality (quite obviously)
there are Americans of german descent that I don't think are nazis
>> Anonymous
>>173237
Haha, way to go Mrs. (or Mr. ?!) OPENMINDED !
>> Anonymous
>>173237
Amerifags wiped out nearly all the native american population.
I bet american kids kill Indians every day.
>> Anonymous
>>173237
that means that the ancestots of former slave holders in america are still slave holders today, right ?
>> Anonymous
>>173237
and so was uk,us, etc. about every other county in the world including portugal.
>> Anonymous
>>173246
>but because portugal just forgot to play.

Apparently they did in the last 10 minutes or so in the game but it was already too late.
>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
>>173237
You are living in the past. Nobody of us is racist any more. Only a fucking nigger would think otherwise.
>> Anonymous
>>173249
oh god please, stop posting or remove your tripcode.
you seem more retarded with every statement you make.
>> Anonymous
>>173237
I hope you are just trolling, cause if not.....damn
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173224
Well, southern whites don't have slaves anymore, since it's illegal
but a great many of them are still VERY racist

if southern racism hasn't fully abated in 200 years, why would I think the Germans are no longer racist in 60?
>> Anonymous
>>173237
could you please lrn2history, failfag?
>> Anonymous
>>173272
Because Germans have always been better people than Americans. They are morally superior.
>> Anonymous
>>173272
Because even I would bet that every German as smart or not they might be - has more brains than you do.
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173281
and what would learning2history correct?
that the country was full of racist? is that what you're contending?
or did they not have kids?
>> Anonymous
>>173272
so if germany is so racist why are they cheering for a team with one black dude, 3 poles, one spaniard, one brasilian and one french guy ?
>> Anonymous
>>173266

I lol'd
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173286
save for that spell where they tried to exterminate a whole race of people I take it?
>> Anonymous
It's not that as bad as I'd imagine. The only racist thing I've ever encountered here is when I tried to hire a flat but the owner thought that I was an illegal immigrant because I'm a Chinese. Took some time to explain things for him.
>> Anonymous
>>173301
Those weren't people. They were Jews.
>> Anonymous
>>173292
because fashion diva is a fucking history major and they get taught this bullshit in amerifag schools?

just guessin. would fit the country in general.
>> Anonymous
>>173291
PROTIP: POLITICAL VIEWS DON'T GET PASSED DOWN WITH THE GENES
>> Anonymous
>>173272
The thought alone that "Southern Americans" or "Germans" as a whole were racists is already complete nonsense.

It is undeniable that there are racists in the south of the US and in Germany. That does however, not make the whole set of people eo ipso racists.

Such thinking is complete nonsense, and you should re-think your position. I assume you're either uneducated or trolling.
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173307
I'm a law student
>> Anonymous
>>173316
HAHAHAHAHAHA

...lighten up people, it's a troll.
>> Anonymous
>>173291
maybe, just maybe, that something happened between 1945 and 2008?
It's just useless the only stereotype that is proven here is the one of the idiotic self centered american.
>> Anonymous
>>173316
OH GREAT MORE LAWYERS JUST WHAT THIS COUNTRY NEEDS!
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173315
If you thought that I meant that every German is racist, you're an idiot. But the simple fact that there are some southerners who aren't racist, says very little about the statement "the south is racist" or West Virginia is racist" - those things are just fucking true.

Just the same, could you really say that Nazi Germany wasn't a racist country? Simply because not all of them were racist? no. They were racist and they still are
>> Anonymous
funny thing is that the germans have the most anti-racist laws and they get anti-racism indoctrinated in school
>> Anonymous
my grandfather was in the wehrmacht and he told me to hate hitler
>> Anonymous
>>173316
HA HA HA, OH WOW
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173332
doesn't that speak volumes about how racist they are?
>> Anonymous
>>173327
>If you thought that I meant that every German is racist, you're an idiot.
>They were racist and they still are

contradiction much ?
>> Anonymous
>>173327
Seriously, how stupid are you?

Praising Hitler or what he did is forbidden by law in Germany. The two big political parties in Germany are social democrats and christian democrats. The German republican party is hated for being too right winged.

The country has changed, just accept it.
>> Anonymous
>>173339
doesn't that speak volumes about how racist you are?
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173344
only if you are an idiot
>> Anonymous
>They were racist and they still are

OMG OBVIOUS TROLL IS OBVIOUS
>> Anonymous
>>173339
they preach anti-racism so they are racists ? WOW
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173350
doesn't what speak volumes about it?
>> Anonymous
>>173327
>could you really say that Nazi Germany wasn't a racist country? Simply because not all of them were racist? no.
You weren't talking about the state, you were talking about the people.

>Germans are no longer racist in 60?

Nazi Germany was a racist state, that does not imply however that its people were all racists.

>They were racist and they still are
They still are? Give us some examples.
>> Anonymous
>>173327
>They were racist and they still are
>they still are

...where are you pulling that part from? Your ass?

You don't know shit about that country. You are american. You probably think Germany borders to Europe. Give proof.

...and on a more serious note, in the possible event that you are not trolling and you are really this stupid, the law system in america must be fucked up as all hell.
>> Anonymous
>>173351
then enlighten me why you say in the first sentence that you don't think that they are all racists, but in the scond sentence that they were always racists and still are ?
>> Anonymous
>>173327
I am a german jew!
Nothing wrong here in germany!
You fail!
>> Anonymous
>>173339
>doesn't that speak volumes about how racist they are?
Explain yourself.

I already know what you're getting at, but I believe that everyone should be given a chance to make himself look stupid on the internet.
>> Anonymous
>>173351
epic troll is epic
>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
Seriously, wtf man.

Here's an interesting story:

There's a fairly well known German tv moderator named Eva Hermann. She wrote a book in which she said that she liked Hitlers family politics (as in, the man should work and the woman should stay home and take care of the children). For that, she lost her job and people keep making fun of her.

Racists and nazis are hated in Germany, probably more than in most other countries. You are a fucking idiot if you say otherwise.
>> Anonymous
>>173365
that guy has WOOOOSHED past that point already, lol
>> Anonymous
>>173370
WELCOME TO THE INTERNET YOU ARE BEING TROLLED
>> Anonymous
>>173292
A FRENCHMAN? OUTRAGEOUS
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173356
the citizens of Nazi germany were racist too (that is what I meant by my original statement - not all of them, of course, but that doesn't negate the truth of the statement).

like I said, I was never saying that ALL of the citizens were racist, enough to allow the creation and maintenance of a racist state, though

I just don't see why I'm supposed to buy that, all of a sudden, they aren't racist anymore. Because they say so?
>> Anonymous
>>173366
same person is same.
>> Anonymous
>>173380
But they are because YOU say so ?
>> Anonymous
Na dnow our little law student is retreating and trying to cover it up as trolling. Hint: not every idiot on 4chan is a troll.
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173362
the same way that I say "women are emotional" but I don't mean all women

seriously, this isn't hard
>> Anonymous
>>173380
because people living in germany know a shitload more about if their conutry is racist or not.
And americans know absolutely nothing of what happens outside of america, and you are one of the best examples for that.
>> Anonymous
>>173380
>that doesn't negate the truth of the statement.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

i wonder which shitty community college lets people like you in who fail at basic logic.

>I just don't see why I'm supposed to buy that, all of a sudden, they aren't racist anymore. Because they say so?
because you have no evidence. believing in things without evidence is religion.

enjoy your religion.
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173390
I have never once said that I was trolling
>>173392
so I am to take their word for that
sorry, but I recognize the incentive to lie about being a racist, so I'm not so ready to take someone's word on it.
>> Anonymous
>>173403
The idiocy is too much. I'm out of here. Please get help. Call a doctor, a psychologist anyone. There must be something wrong with your brain.
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173398
It's called circumstantial evidence

they were full of racist only 60 years ago, it's silly to believe that suddenly they aren't
>> Anonymous
>>173380
>I just don't see why I'm supposed to buy that, all of a sudden, they aren't racist anymore. Because they say so?

cause 60 years = all of sudden
>> Anonymous
>>173417
>There must be something wrong with your brain.
It's called: BUTTHURT.
>> Anonymous
>>173418
No, it's silly to believe in anything without evidence.
You're not a lawyer, you're a butthurt theologist. And a pretty uneducated one as you obviously don't know about denazification.
>> Anonymous
>>173380
>>I just don't see why I'm supposed to buy that, all of a sudden, they aren't racist anymore. Because they say so?
Germans know what happened in their country. They know that it was horrible, and that it can never be allowed to happen again.

Kids aren't just told that by their parents, but also by schools. My school even went on a trip to Auschwitz to show us what horrible things went on there.

Of course there are still some nazis left in Germany. Every country has its retards. But the majority hates them.
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173421
do you know of an instance in which racial prejudices have evaporated more quickly?
>> Anonymous
>>173418
but they were only nazis for 12 years, and since 60 years are not that much time in your opinion, 12 years must be virtually nothing. Conclusion: Germany was never racist by your logic.
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173440
It's true that they were only nazis for 12 years, but God knows how long they were racist

I'm certainly not of the position that if you aren't a nazi you aren't racist (indeed that is my entire point)
>> Anonymous
>>173439
>racial prejudices
prejudices != racism

it becomes racism the moment you let prejudices overshadow facts.
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173432
I take it you don't understand what "circumstantial evidence" is
>> Anonymous
>>173442
than every country is racists, including your country. Fucking racist scumbag
>> Anonymous
>>173448
>you obviously don't know about denazification.
>> Anonymous
>>173403
I won't argue with you anymore, I grow tired of arguing with idiots pretty fast.

I just pity the people that may eventually get you as a lawyer or judge some time in the future, because you seem to have a tendency to hold on to really simple-minded views of things for far too long, despite being told otherwise. And not only from german people.
>> Anonymous
>>173448
I don't know about him, but I know what it means. It means prejudice diguised as fact.
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173446
I'm not sure what you are getting at here
I you could replace the terms if you like
>> Anonymous
>>173442
>It's true that they were only nazis for 12 years, but God knows how long they were racist
Racism was common in the whole western world. It came up with nationalism and colonialism. Racist theories came up in most European nations and by that logic everyone in Europe should still be racist as you obviously deny the existence of social changes.
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173458
lol
I don't know what to do with this, except admire its cuteness

>>173438
just as a note, I don't really think that they are prepared to become nazis again, but I don't see how that means they aren't racist
>> Anonymous
wow, ISM has set the bar for retarded, trolling tripfags pretty high, but you might jump over it tonight.
>> Anonymous
>>173459
No, because there are no thought crimes. For racism to emerge it always needs acts. Someone who believes that Black people were generally lazy but is still willing to give a Black individual a chance to prove himself is not a racist. Someone who does not emply Black people because he believes that Black people were generally lazy is however a racist.
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173464
I'm not saying that racism never abates

It's just my experience that it takes a great deal of time.
>> Anonymous
There is no pupil that hasn't visited a concentration camp at least once in his school career.
No year at school passes without WW2, Nazis and so on. Be it in german, history, social studies or even in fucking arts.

Several generations have passed since that time, and I could really feel personally insulted by fashion queens dumb statements.

The newest statistics have "hate crimes" by right wing extremists at ca. 70 cases a year. The government stresses the "battle against right extremism" anyway at each and every occasion.
>> Anonymous
>>173474
>It's just my experience that it takes a great deal of time.
You must be pretty old then.
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173471
ISM would be a fucking hero if he weren't such a weeaboo
>> Anonymous
>>173474

And what great experience in the matter do YOU have?!?
>> Anonymous
>>173474
the algerian war was in the 60's, does that mean the french are more racist than the germans ?
>> Anonymous
>>173469
Alright, if the German people were still racist why don't they pass racist laws. Who would stop them? It's not like there are no other racist countries in the world.
>> Anonymous
the world doesn't change, if my ancestors lived in caves it's quite obvious that I also live in a cave...wait, I don't. MY WORLD IS BREAKING DOWN.
>> Anonymous
>>173474
>It's just my experience that it takes a great deal of time.
So you have empirical evidence that a denazification process takes a great deal of time?
You're talking nonsense, since the situation of Germany was unique in history.

You have no idea what you're talking about and your butthurt tears are most delicious.
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173485
I think it would be extremely difficult for them to do so, since they were rebuilt by money from the united states and all of their allies take the position the racism is bad. They would lost standing in the world and I don't think anyone (other nations, that is) is prepared to tolerate even the beginnings of another racist German state
>> Anonymous
The most amazing thing about this thread is that the anons are the voice of reason, whereas the tripfag is the troll. What the hell has happend to 4chan?
>> Anonymous
>>173499
just answer one question: what makes germany more racist than, lets say france ?
>> Anonymous
Guys please, less talking about Germany being nazOH MEIN GOTT DEUTSCHLAND HAT GEWONNEN
>> Anonymous
>>173505
Is he trolling?

Each of his posts looks like

>BAWWWWWWWW PORTUGAL LOST BAAAWWWWWWW ;___;

to me.
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173506
The percentage of the citizenry that was involved (somehow or another-complicity counts, to my mind) in racial atrocities in recent history?
>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
>>173499
so what do you think about italy ? they were nearly the same as the germans, and unlike the germans they had far right parties in their national parliament after 45.
>> Anonymous
>>173512
And what makes Germany more racist NOW?
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173514
I think it's false to say that they were nearly the same as the Germans

that being said, Italians can eat a dick too
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173516
didn't I just answer that?
>> Anonymous
>>173512
most of the people involved into the nazi crimes are dead or fucking old. how can a 21 year old german be a racist because of things that happened 60 years ago ?
>> Anonymous
>>173526
Nope, you didn't.
>> Anonymous
>>173512
>The percentage of the citizenry that was involved (somehow or another-complicity counts, to my mind) in racial atrocities in recent history?
there were fewer individuals involved than one might think. what made the holocaust special was its industrialised nature. also, the individual motivation was in most cases not racism. and i'd sure like to hear specifically how that makes the current generation of germans more racist than anyone else.
>> Anonymous
/sp/ - trolling & history
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173529
If my parents were southern racists, I might very well be one too
>> Anonymous
>>173380
i'll just repeat my kind question. could you pretty please do yourself a favour and lrn2history?

hitler's been a manipulative cunt and somehow managed to take control over a country that's been in a mess after WW1. sure, he and his party were racist to the core, but due to him people weren't starving no longer, had work again, etc.. in other words, people had faith in him, because he built the country up again.

people did eventually realize that the guy is nuts and all, and many didn't share his views, but it's soon turned into a dictatorship, during which people didn't really have a choice but to "follow" him. atleast pretend to in public.

this entire holocaust thing, for example, wasn't known to the public.. (inb4 never happened) do you believe that germans were slaughtering jews in their free time or something?

how hard is it to realize that people could be disgusted enough by something like that alone, and therefore decide to never support anything even remotely racist again? plus good parts of europe were fucked, a shit ton of people died, all because of that crap..

then again, americans probably can't imagine, they'd elect that retard GWB for another 4 years if they could. it's all about learning from mistakes, faggot.
>> Anonymous
>>173536
protip: look up german history, and read about the 60s and 70s, especially the year 68.
>> Anonymous
>>173536
Because your parents were racist?

So you're unable to question your parents' worldview? Unable to form your own opinion?
>> Anonymous
>>173536
yeah, cuz you know, there is no free-will and all. You are just a retard because your parents were also retards, right ?
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173544
I know that if the jews in my city were made to be publicly identifiable, I would think something was up
>> Anonymous
Ah fuck you all - fucking touchy Germans. Everytime someone pulls the Nazi trigger you get embarrassing and apologetic - ease up already.
>> Anonymous
>>173544
>americans probably can't imagine
Yes, yes, ... Americans probably can't imagine and Germans are racists.

I hope you're trolling because that's the same nonsense this butthurt retard is talking about. As if any nation was homogeneous.
>> Anonymous
>>173554is completely right and>>173547even mentions the time this happend in Germany.
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173558
>>173554
are you suggesting that kids don't get racism from their parents?
I'm not saying that it's inevitable, but I recognize that young people can be easily indoctrinated

and I'm not sure what you think you mean by "free will" but I probably don't believe in it
>> Anonymous
>>173560
I'm still waiting>>173532
>> Anonymous
>>173574
And you completely ignored>>173547
>> Anonymous
>>173565
i don't have anything to apologize for. i have nothing to do with what happened 60-70 years ago.

i don't even care about any of that to be honest.
>> Anonymous
>>173574
I'm saying that parents are not the only influence. You're completely ruling out education.

>young people can be easily indoctrinated
Yes, I'm sure German parents were secretly indoctrinating their children in their basements. In order to indoctrinate properly, it is not enough to simply tell your children "AROUND BLACKS NEVAR RELAX". Nazi writings and symbols were banned and the Allies made sure to take care of prominent Nazi ideologists during the denazification process.

tl;dr - Education and experiences has a greater impact on children than what parents tell them. This has been empirically affirmed.
>> Anonymous
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>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173605
I'm don't know that they weren't indoctrinating their children
If I thought jews were bad people, I would probably teach my kids that. I would probably tell them that all of the time
>>173596
who has asked you to apologize
>> Anonymous
Fuck racism, which by the way is if you make a whole country a bunch of Nazi. Germany won fair and square. Arne Friedrich took that faggot Ronaldo essentially out of the game and had a near 100% goal effiency. And Ricardo now really has a Schweinsteiger-phobia.

Acknoledge the truth, Portugal was inferior tonight. Period.
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173621
I don't know why you guys keep bringing up the match
>> Anonymous
Germans are the superior race thats fucking why
>> Anonymous
>>173629
Because it was grand, that's why.
>> Anonymous
>>173632

lern2race
>> Anonymous
>>173618
The point is that "indoctrination" doesn't work that way. How are you going to make sure that your kids believe you? There is no way to "protect" them from outside influences. School, the media, other kids, ... - sooner or later they'll make up their mind.
>> Anonymous
>>173566
well, you're quite correct there i have to admit. my apologies to half of the american population.

nah, but seriously that wasn't to be taken THAT literally, just meant as some sort of comparison.. you know.. germans = racists because of hitler, so americans = retards because of bush, etc.. whatever. reading it again, i should've worded that differently..
>> Anonymous
>>173618
>who has asked you to apologize

care to read what i've quoted?
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173640
Well, it seems to me that you are mistaken in divorcing parents from "education and experience." I have little doubt that if my mom had wanted to, she could easily have made me distrustful of jews. She did have an amount of access and trust that couldn't be matched by any institution
>> Anonymous
>>173650
I didn't divorce parents from "education and experiences", I divorced them from "outside influences", which are a far greater influence than parents.

I wonder if you would have remained being distrustful of Jews if you happened to meet a Jew who didn't fit into the stereotype.
>> Anonymous
>>173629
Why don't you shut the fuck up, you goddamn butthurt Jew!
>> Anonymous
>>173629
Dunno. It was a really entertaining match. Germany's victory was well earned. Ronaldo cried like a little girl. Pick one.
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173670
I was referring to your previous post (assuming that was you)

and I don't know whether I would remain racist (I just don't have this experience) - but I would imagine that there are plenty of racist Americans who have met ok black poeple. I know some of them.

Do you guys meet many jews in Germany?
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173676
I didn't mean that to stand alone
Of course you should talk about the match
I was wondering why people kept bringing it up in conjunction with this discussion of racism
>> Anonymous
>>173676

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>> Anonymous
Of course there are cool jews fashion bitch, besides its not racist to be against jews but stupid, Judaism is a glomping religion and not a race you idiot and now get back to /b/ you silly troll
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173709
I don't know where to begin...
>> Anonymous
DEUTCHLAND UBER ALLES!!!
Next up: Germany re-takes Croatia!
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>> Anonymous
>>173682
>Do you guys meet many jews in Germany?
I've personally met a couple of Holocaust survivors, rabbis and I've had a jewish classmate. All of them were nice people.

I've made most of these experiences during my school days, and I'm pretty sure most other Germans made similar experiences as it is mandatory (well, except for the jewish classmate thing).

It would be retarded to base an opinion about a whole group of people based on few experiences. In general, I believe that "opinions" about abstract, inhomogeneous social constructs such as nations are pretty useless and should never be considered to influence an opinion about the individual.
>> Anonymous
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>>173706
that went a bit wrong, second try:

>>173676
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>>173682
i barely find myself asking people if they're jewish or not, and since they're not showing me their penises, hard to tell a difference.
>> Anonymous
The holocaust never happened
>> Anonymous
>>173731
So, the reasoning:

I've met a nice Jew => Jews are nice people

is equally stupid as

I've met a stupid Jew => Jews are stupid people


Of course, you can insert German and Nazi here, as well. Or American and uneducated or any other stereotype.
>> Anonymous
New argument: If Germans want me to waste energy making the hard g sound at the beginning they should spell their name with a GODDAMN J!

JERMANY!
>> Anonymous
wat a troll thread*wandersoffshakinghead*
>> Anonymous
>>173748
i detect immeasurable amounts of fail in this post.
>> Anonymous
>>173740

OH U NAZIHATER!
>> Anonymous
>>173748
In fact we spell our country's name with a "D".
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173731
>It would be retarded to base an opinion about a whole group of people based on few experiences. In general, I believe that "opinions" about abstract, inhomogeneous social constructs such as nations are pretty useless and should never be considered to influence an opinion about the individual.
whether or not they are is an entirely different question, though
>> Anonymous
     File :-(, x)
FUCK YEAH, DEUTSCHLAND!
>> Anonymous
>>173768
Even if you make a qualitative statement which is true for the majority of its components - its people, you'll still be wrong about certain individuals.

Therefore it serves no practical purpose (if you're not a marketing analyst) since you'll never know if you don't have one of these individuals in front of you.
>> Anonymous
Well fashion diva, I hope you see that there are 3 or 4 germans that are no nazis, making your statement>>173034fail
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173788
It serves some purpose only to the extent that you are unable to discern specific facts (and the things you can infer from those facts) about the individual.
>> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc
>>173795
That was something of hyperbole
I mean, I couldn't possibly think that every german is a nazi. Some of them are babies, retarded (you have stopped killing them, right?), turkish, etc..
>> Anonymous
I hope autosage hits sooner than later, this is unbearable any longer on the frontpage
>> Anonymous
This thread sucks.
>> Anonymous
>>173810
>I couldn't possibly think that every german is a nazi.
Of course. There are also people who believe that Jews generally had long noses and no other goal in life but to steal other people's money. Some argument with racist, other with culturalist (like you, with your "socially inherited racism") arguments.
And it still serves no purpose since neither "The Jew" nor "The German" exists. There are but individuals.

>you have stopped killing them, right?
Unintentionally, you've just brought up abortion. Good luck getting out of that one. German law is relatively conservative about abortion, if you're interested you might look it up on Wikipedia or something.

I'll go to bed now.
>> Anonymous
>>173013I'm no fan of Portugal, but fuck, how can people support Germany before Portugal?
Speaking for the Dutch: Germany is our nemesis. If we can't face the Germans in the finals... then why the fuck would we even bother with winning this tournament?
>> Anonymous
Germany won because Portugal has a bad goalkeeper, REALLY BAD INDEED, Portugal played much better than Germany.
>> Anonymous
>>173912
Oh come on... Nemesis. Yeah we won the '74 finals and you were undoubtably the better team, but other that that we had a few fun matches. You even beat us on our turf in '88 AND won the cup. I rather like your team and I enjoy every match we play against each other.