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Anonymous
I'm back bitches
>> Anonymous
Time for the Cup to come back to Colorado!
>> Anonymous
Sakic, Forsberg, Hejduk, Foote.

The cup is ours.
>> Anonymous
itt its 2001
>> Anonymous
SUPER JOE JUST SCORED A GOAL, THEN HE BEAT UP DOUG GILMOUR!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18zsScCM1kY
>> Anonymous
>>302510
HOW DO YOU LIKE THEM APPLES, GILMOUR?
>> Anonymous
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eDzkp76Zac
A RIGHT BY ROY! A RIGHT BY ROY! ANOTHER RIGHT BY ROY!
>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
Sakic > Yzerman
>> Anonymous
So what are the chances the Avs win the cup this year?
>> Anonymous
>>302675
You have Raycroft. Zero.
>> Anonymous
Shit... We gotta' go dig up Ray Bourque and Uwe Krupp!
>> Anonymous
>>302677
We have Budaj.
>> SSG Posted Here
>>302570
This user = retarded.
More Stanley Cups won, more goals, more assists..............what the hell makes you think Sakic is better?
Plus, Yzerman just got a Stanley Cup as the VP of the front office of the Wings. Let's see Sakic do that.
>> Anonymous
>>302724
Avalanche > Red Wings
>> Anonymous
>>302724
Goals
Sakic: 623
Yzerman: 692

Assists
Sakic: 1006
Yzerman: 1063

Difference
Goals: +69, Yzerman
Assists: +57 Yzerman

Years in the NHL
Yzerman: 23
Sakic: 19

Sakic has 4 years to make 69 goals and 57 assists. He'll probably get this in 2 years. Sakic > Yzerman.
>> Anonymous
>>302691
So, beyond zero.
>> Anonymous
>>302738
Not every Stanley Cup goalie needs to be Patrick Roy.
>> Anonymous
>>302750
They do, however, need to show SOME degree of competence.
>> Anonymous
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More importantly...
I'm back bitches.
>> Anonymous
>>302754
What's 2.57 GAA?
>> SSG Posted Here
>>302726
Since moving to Colorado, Avs. Have 2 Stanley Cups; the Red Wings have 4 in that same time period.
Four Stanley Cups > Two Stanley Cups. Thus, Red Wings > Avs.
Also, you guys did sooooo well in the playoffs against us last year......
>> Anonymous
>>302769
Red Wing fans are fucking faggots. Detroit is the Boston of Hockey.
>> Anonymous
>>302765
20th place. Fuck, Theodore's GAA was better and look what good it ultimately did for the Avs' playoff run.
>> Anonymous
>>302776
2.81 Goals Per Game says 2.57 is enough to win, and make it into the playoffs.

And that was without Peter Forsberg on the team. Now that Forsberg is back with Sakic and Hejduk (Not to mention Adam Foote for added defense), the Avs will be nigh unstoppable.
>> Anonymous
>>302783
Unstoppable? Tap Forsberg on the foot and he'll shatter like glass.
>> Anonymous
>>302806
Try to tap him in the foot, and he'll likely tap you in the face with his shoulder. A very firm tap.
>> Anonymous
>>302811
Apparently it worked just fine last playoffs since yet again he's going to sit on his ass until February waiting for it to heal long enough for his six-week blank check.
>> Anonymous
>>302813
And the second he's back, he'll be the best all-around player on the ice.

Forsberg is a beast.
>> Anonymous
>>302819
Forsberg is a diver and made of glass. I'm not denying that he has extraordinary talent, just a bitch.
>> Anonymous
>>302819
>And the second he's back, he'll be the best all-around player on the ice.

That's EXACTLY what people said about Forsberg last playoffs and in the end it didn't make a lick of difference since he fucked himself over when it mattered most anyway. If in your mind requiring 3/4s of a season just to be healthy enough to play and not even making it 20 games before injuring himself to the point where he's going to need ANOTHER 3/4s of a season to play again equates to being a 'beast', you're either confusing the NHL with a geriatric ward or the Paralympics, maybe both.
>> Anonymous
Last season, Avs fans kept badgering me about how unstoppable they were, especially with Forsberg

then they lost

and then the next season will begin (lol budaj and raysoft)

and repeat
>> Anonymous
>>302832
>Forsberg is a diver
Since when? Fuck off, Detroit faggot. How can someone who consistently lays out hits be a diver? That makes no sense.
>> Anonymous
>Not to mention Adam Foote for added defense

Ah yes. Lidstrom, Phaneuf, Chara, Adam Foote: DEFENSIVE LEGENDS.

This is like all the hick Calgary fans trying to convince themselves that Todd fucking Bertuzzi is the missing link that will propel them beyond the first round.
>> Anonymous
>>302855
How do you 'consistently' lay out hits when you're practically in a wheelchair from June to January?
>> Anonymous
>>302861
>Lidstrom, Phaneuf, Chara, Adam Foote
Those are all very good defenceman, and it's not like I think Adam Foote is the second coming of Christ. You can tell because I said "Not to mention" as if it were just a sidenote. (It is.)

Also: Bertuzzi sucks. At least we can both agree to that.
>> Anonymous
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKrXiOR8fBY&feature=related

I *DO* give Forsberg credit for punching Dan Cloutier in the crotch, at least.
>> Anonymous
>>302855
Av's fan blinded by obvious homerism.
>> Anonymous
>>302867
>To prove that he isn't just another skittish skater from Sweden in the rugged NHL, Forsberg, 21, gave as many hits as he got. And his plus-14 plus-minus rating proved he is responsible offensively and defensively.

The man is an amazing all around player. I'll be laughing when Detroit loses to Colorado in the playoffs.
>> Anonymous
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZuwjEePuiI&feature=related

As a Wingsfag: Thank you Forsberg for smacking shin-guard assassin Michael Samuelsson in the face.
>> Anonymous
>>302861
So because you hit people you can't dive? Saying that makes no sense... well, makes no sense
>> Anonymous
>>302892
>So because you hit people you can't dive?
He isn't flopping around on the ice like a douchebag. He's a fierce competitor.
>> Anonymous
>Detroit is the Boston of Hockey.
>Detroit is the Boston of Hockey.
>Detroit is the Boston of Hockey.
>Detroit is the Boston of Hockey.
>Detroit is the Boston of Hockey.
>Detroit is the Boston of Hockey.
>Detroit is the Boston of Hockey.
>Detroit is the Boston of Hockey.
>Detroit is the Boston of Hockey.
>Detroit is the Boston of Hockey.
>> Anonymous
>>302889
>I'll be laughing when Detroit loses to Colorado in the playoffs.

I'll hold an ounce of belief in the notion that Colorado will even MAKE the playoffs once they find a goaltender that isn't outperformed by a cardboard cutout of Roy.
>> Anonymous
>>302899
They made the playoffs last year with Budaj. Why can't they do it again?

Right, because you're a Red Wing fan. Sorry.
>> Anonymous
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>>302889
>plus-14 plus-minus rating

I laugh in your face, you IKEA-swindling meatball-gorging cripple
>> Anonymous
To all the fags saying Yzerman is better then Sakic
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=486479
Here is a VERY comprehensive lsit of the top 100 players of all time, Sakic ranked 33 and Yzerman 36. The voters on this site really knew their shit and went through huge debates trying to convince others to vote, and eventually they voted Sakic ahead of Yzerman. http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=500299 is the thread where much of the sakic vs yzerman comparisons went down.

I'm sure you will fag out and criticize their selection but at the end of the day, these guys know way more about hockey then you so GG
>> Anonymous
>>302905
Because Budaj is going to be sitting on the bench for a good 50 games while The Man With The Over-3.00 NHL Lifetime GAA blocks shots as effectively as swiss cheese.
>> Anonymous
>>302924
Wut? This was already resolved right here.>>302731

The only people who still think otherwise are irrelevant.
>> Anonymous
>>302924
>Hasek in the top 15

Welp, that chart's credibility flushed itself down the toilet quick.
>> Anonymous
>>302924
Hasek over Roy AND Brodeur.

Even as a Wingsfag I'd rage if I wasn't laughing so hard.
>> Anonymous
>>302935
More like Hasek over Roy. That's a load of shit.
>> Anonymous
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ron hextall. case closed.
>> Anonymous
Honestly if you disagree with their rankings read the arguments they give. They don't just go with their "gut" they give real arguments, something that can't be said for the majority of people here...
>> Anonymous
>>302953
What the fuck is the "Real argument" for Hasek > Roy and Brodeur? That's absurd.
>> Anonymous
>>302972

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=489442&page=2

Page 2 of 9 of arguments for and against hasek > Roy
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>>303006
>Personally, I have Hasek #7, most dominant player I've seen in my 17 years watching the sport.

Hasek one single spot removed from Maurice Richard...
>> Anonymous
>>303006
>Wings4Life
Fair and Objective.
>> Anonymous
>>303049
Also, lol @ comparing goalie stats in the dead puck era.

What the fuck was this guy thinking? Roy had consistent numbers going back to the high scoring era. Roy is the greatest goaltender of all time. There shouldn't be a debate.