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zel
??????(???)???? !!!!!
didnt get it till today... stupid fedex required me to sign it in person to receive it.
>> Anonymous
I would like to see a comparison pic of a hand-cut sheet of parts and a thing made by this gizmo.
>> Anonymous
congrats! put it to good use and take your time
but yeah .pdo print and cut demo would be great
>> Anonymous
Umm.. newfag reports in.
What the fuck is this?
>> Anonymous
>>91712
It prints and cuts out your templates.

In before long post the gist of which is the above line.
>> Anonymous
>>91712
craft robo, it cuts what it prints, but needs to be programmed with each new project so its nice for small production runs but sucks for one-shots.unless you programming is better than your cutting or you're doing a fucton of really small pieces
>> THI
So can we take a gander at the instruction booklet later?

And try it out already!
>> Anonymous
don't forget to mention this thing works with pepakura, so from the software it knows where to cut (afaik)
But if you just have some random pdf or jpg, you then need to specify where each cut is going to be
so its great for pdo files, but more work otherwise
>> Anonymous
also craftROBO Pro doesn't work with pepakura
>> zel
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well its all set up, having trouble with cutting normal paper so I gotta play around with the settings. not sure why but its not reading the registration marks :/

I tell you one thing though, it works marvelous as a vinyl decal maker lol.
>> Anonymous
can it run off outlines vector files?
>> zel
>>91692
http://www.tamasoft.co.jp/pepakura-en/download/viewer_crobo.html
theres a guide thing after installing that program to show how to use craft robo with pepakura.

... but since its the trail version, I'm still looking for a _free_ way of using the full features.
>> Ilucifera
I posted password in the wow thread....
>> Anonymous
lime for reference please
>> zel
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>>91755
yes, thats how I made the decals.

The free software the came with the craft robo allows you to import a image from a scanner too, and import jpg and bmp files (no pngs).

There is a plug-in for illustrator so you can do all the line creation, editing, etc. there, then use the craft robo to set up how to print it out and where to cut.

BTW, i didnt know there was a high res exporter for pepakura! but that too i cant find a 'free' version of. heres the sample or the rescaling <--
>> zel
>>91762
:( well shit. i didnt check that thread... mind a repost?
>> gizmogal !MmLOyiCYJs
finally, someone has one! Looks cool, but I'm gonna bet they don't work with Macs, right?
>:
>> zel
>>91779
;) they do have software for macs
>> Ilucifera
0285-3242-3589
>>91776
>> zel
>>91776
nvm. found the rapidshare version!
>>91775
my bad, seems like version 2.12 export a lot better than what i was using...


Pepakura now exports .dxf, so I wont need their stupid viewer to cut out the pattern with the craft robo.

I'm going to run a few tests, I'll post the images later!
>> zel
>>91797
ahh thanks anyway! (sorry took me a while to type the last message)
>> gizmogal !MmLOyiCYJs
>>91786
i'm shocked! yay, in that case.

but Pepakura still doesn't work with it right? or am i to hear more good news? D:
>> zel
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>>91812
yes "good news"
pepakura DO work with it, if you buy their viewer (fees only $15)

But if you are cheap like me, heres a way. It takes a little bit of work, but its easy work:
1) open up the .pdo with pepakura designer 2
2) export the cut lines to ".dxf"
3) export the bmp out
4) open up Illustrator (CS)
5) import the bmp and lock the layer
6) import the .dxf file (it will be all the lines, color coded) for cutting it up.
7) you will have to match the .dxf to the bmp, make sure the lines are a close fit.
8) use the craft robo plugin to place registration marks on the edges of the document
9) if anything is outside the registration, then move it in.
10) print out the image (make sure you turn off the lines layer if you dont want it to show)
11) load the printed pattern into the craft robo
12) use the plugin in Illustrator under "craft robo> settings" to tell it what kind of cut marks you want for the outside lines and the fold lines
(it can "score" the fold lines, but what it really does is make perforated cuts, which isnt very good for small pieces).
13) after all adjustment complete, click on "craft robo" in the dialog box and it will load up the configure to cut it out!

I'm not going to go into the configuration cuz thats on the users manual of the craft robo. But its pretty easy.
>> zel
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So far, the only thing I have to complain is that I have a really tough time getting it to read the registration marks.
It has difficult reading thin recycle paper because the two rollers on the side will catch it wrong if its not perfectly flat.

The craft robo comes with a contact sheet thats used to grab onto small pieces of paper for cutting, but I find it useful for cutting thinner paper to make sure it stays flat. What the contact sheet is a thick plastic with a light doublesided tape on one side to adhere to the printed paper.

Only problem with that is if you dont get the settings right (like me), the cut out pieces will get stuck ON the contact sheet, so I had to go use a pick to pry it off.
>> Anonymous
>>91815
is that a cyntiq i see in the top right corner of that picture? please tell me it is.
>> Anonymous
>>91829
Tablet
http://www.zelas.deviantart.com/
>> zel
>>91830
... cintiq lol. (the thing in the upper right)
>> zel
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>>91829
o.O and good eye there!
What im working on now.

I'm usually quite lazy to prototype my shit... guess cutting things up wont be an issue any more! :D
>> Anonymous
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>>91834
I... the baby chocobo? Is that a baby chocobo leg? A young chocobo leg? A full-size one has 3 toes.

But if it's a baby chocobo...surprise!
>> Anonymous
^^
Is that a Tay Zonday Hako? Post template please :D
>> zel
>>91837
ohh, someone made it? i know i posted the .obj a long while back on here.
Oh well, then i guess i dont have to! im still going to test out the foot with pepakura and craft robo though.
>> Anonymous
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>>91844
You posted the obj? Didn't know. I made mine from scratch.

Also>>91843
here you go
>> zel
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ok. this is what you SHOULD NOT do.

it was normal card stock, printed from a lazer printer. the cut piece seem to have caught the moving parts and just tore it to shreds. i really need to find a cheaper alternative to the craft robo contact paper if I'm going to have to start using it all the time.
>> Anonymous
>>91815
I heard people buy spray glue to reglue the contact paper, also I heard that if the sheet is the correct size you dont need that contact paper, also you can programa the craft robo to cut 2 times or even 5 times to cut thick paper
>> Anonymous
How much did the craft robo cost you?
>> Anonymous
>>91852
so far it wont let me, maybe i need to leave a gap in the lines so it wont cut completely?

yea I was thinking of getting those repositionable spray adhesives once the stickiness is gone.
>> Anonymous
>>91849
join some craft robo yahoo group or find a craft robo blog they tell you how to save money in all the stuff and how to cut right
>> zel
>>91853
$260 on ebay. And another $20 for a pack of 24 assorted colors for the pack of vinyl.
>> Anonymous
http://craftrobosupport.com/forum
>> Anonymous
http://www.foilman.com/robotech.html
>> Anonymous
>>91714It prints and cuts out your templates.
So does it only cut, or can it also ALMOST cut?
Meaning it "loosens up" the parts but doesn't completely remove the parts from the paper, so you can push them out? I know it can score the fold lines, but that's not what I mean.
>> Anonymous
gg wasting your money thar
>> zel
>>91882>>91883

thanks!

>>91885
it does NOT print. It only cut. you tell it where to cut. you can tell it to leave a spot to not cut, or cut the whole thing out.

Their "scoring" line isnt hte same like hand scoring. It just perforates the line.

and lol @ troll.
>> Anonymous
I will buy one for me too
>> Anonymous
Could you use a very blunted needle to do the scoring? I don't know if it comes with extra or how expensive the extra are but you could take one and sand up the needle or blade so it wouldn't cut as much as it would leave an impression on the paper.
>> Anonymous
>>92135
It's paper, not kevlar.
When the machine's blade goes up and down, it WILL punch through the paper, no matter how blunt the blade is...................
>> gizmogal !MmLOyiCYJs
>>91870
woah. good deal!

I think I'm going to start saving for this now!
>> Anonymous
Yeah, I think I'll stick with my 2.95 for five X-Acto blades... ;)
>> Anonymous
>>91870
$260 dollars for something that you can also just do with a breakaway blade you steal from school/work? Wow... Just wow... lol
>> zel
>>92135
>>92136
well technically you *can* do it, as long as changing the perforated cuts to normal cut but:

A) change it to a "thinner" paper setting and change the attachment head.

B) add these "O" rings that are provided that are like plastic washers that can make it not cut as deep.

Both ways should work out pretty well to score the paper. But thats if you are using the registration mark reader so everything lines up perfectly.


>>92206
>>92205
This CraftRobo obviously isn't for everybody. I'm using it for more than cutting papercraft patterns I find online.
I design my own papercrafts, I make decals and stickers, etc. So yea, I will not recommend this for people who want to get this solely for making papercrafts.
>> Anonymous
>>92207should work out pretty well
Should? As in I haven't tried? ;) I wouldn't try it either, just stick with the stuff the machine was designed for. But shouldn't you always use the registration marks? How else is the machine supposed to know where lines on the paper are?
And yes, ironically many /po/eple are not very patient and it's the cutting/scoring that takes the most time, but if you're doing it only once, then the CraftRobo is a waste of money; it's useful for when you have to do a lot of repetitive work since you can use the same program over and over again.
>> zel
>>92208

well I accidentally scored a pattern that way before when I was cutting a pattern out, it didnt go all the way through lol.

for papercraft prototyping I dont always make the registration marks (since there are no textures applied). therefore i use the perforated marks to guide where to fold.

;) best thing is, I can watch animu while it cut stuff out for me, hahaha. I used to do the cutting by hand while I watch stuff, but obviously thats how I make messy cut marks.
>> Anonymous
I don't believe you can set the "cutting height" so that it will only "cut"/score halfway through a sheet of paper that's only a tenth of a millimeter thick. I think it will still cut/tear the whole paper, I don't believe the cut depth can be that precise.
>> Anonymous
>>92136
>>92135
in fact there is an engraving tool, that can be used as scoring tool


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160047174309


too bad is a little expensive
>> Anonymous
by the way, how much time do it take for craft robo for a normal sheet? 2 minutes? 1 minute?
>> zel
>>92268
engraving tool is for "craft robo PRO" (which is around $900+

>>92213
there IS a setting that you can indicate thickness of the paper, but it isnt anything precise nor referencing in any sort of measurement (like .01mm). The only way is to manually add the rings to set the depth of the cut.

>>92269
depends on how much there is to cut of course! but really, it takes quite a long time to cut out the perforated marks, but much much faster if it is just a normal cut. It also depends on how many points there are in the line.
If you are familiar with vectoring art, you know theres the "clean" way of doing it by hand, or having a auto-traced way where there are way too many points to be manageable.
In the case of an "unclean" vector, the craft robo will go much slower since theres a lot more step for it to get through.
When the vector is clean and simple, so will the way craft robo cuts the paper.

Hope that makes sense! I'm going to see if I can get my camera to take a short video demo sometime tomorrow.
>> zel
>>92269
oh yea, to answer about how many minutes... uhm minimum of 1min per page.
>> gizmogal !MmLOyiCYJs
>>92207
>>92206
exactly. I wouldn't throw away my hard earned money on it if I were to only use it to cut paper.
>> Anonymous
>>92327
>>92207
you must be poor or you preffer to spend that money in food
>> Anonymous
>>92276
1 minute is great if you want to sell stuff :D
>> gizmogal !MmLOyiCYJs
>>92339
actually, I'm pretty loaded.
but I'm frugal. ;3