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ABBC with high ceilings? Anonymous
what's up dudes, i use the ABBC, a better bounce card, and had (insert borat voice) great success with it in normal sized rooms

i use it in the same exact position and angle seen in the picture

the way the ABBC works is that it shoots the light up to bounce on the ceiling but also throws a bit of diffused light forward, right?

so i'm going to be shooting in some huge indoor gymnasium kind of thing where the ceilings are super high, and i'm guessing it will be pretty much as if there is no ceiling at all

my question is, will the ABBC still work this way? maybe i should rotate the paper back in a "normal" position, above the flash head and angle it like 30-60 degrees forward and shoot it that way?

or should i just order am omni bounce style diffuser and shoot straight flash?

thanks dudes
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>> Anonymous
Just put a diffuser on your flash and use it the normal way.

sheesh
>> Anonymous
>>257434

the ABBC is a diffuser, the omni bounce is a diffuser, the lightsphere is a diffuser, a mini soft box is a diffuser

be more precise, please
>> Martin !!ve2Q1ETWmJH
It will work if positioned correctly.
Experiment when you get there, you'll get it right eventually.
>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
should i use the lightsphere instead?

seems to be more useful, specially in portrait orientation vs. the omni bounce

i don't need to throw the light very far
>> Vincent !!8LCSE0Zp1mL
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Am I the only person who prefers not to spread the source of light around the room rather than have a single (Albeit still soft) bounce location?

Most diffusers simply chuck light all around the room (including directly at your subject) And also tend to light up objects in the background at a similar power to your subject. Which I don't think is good all the time.

I prefer a bit of angle and light falloff in portraits, even candid style shots at events and whatnot.
Pic related, No diffuser, Flash fired directly up at a white roof. (Sorry about the watermark, I'm not at my home computer)
>> Anonymous
get all the bouncers/diffusers/etc. ahead of time and test them
>> Anonymous
>>257464

1) The light in that photo is incredibly unflattering, especially to the poor girl in the middle. If you had been bouncing some of that light forward her face wouldn't have such deep shadows.

2) The OP is talking about a situation where he WON'T BE ABLE TO BOUNCE OFF THE CEILING.
>> Anonymous
>>257464

the ABBC does that and does it better, the light is bounced and throws a little bit forward to light up the shadows better

but uh, there are no ceilings where i'm going so your post is pretty much a useless opinion ;f
>> Anonymous
>>257477

man, i'm not made of money :/

i can get the omni bounce or lightsphere locally for $20 a piece or online for $10 each, including shipping

i really just need one :/ i'm fine with ABBC normally
>> Vincent !!8LCSE0Zp1mL
>>257497
oh I realized that OP's case is different, I was just talking about the use of diffusers in general.

I still prefer a higher ratio of angled light than the diffusers that I've used provide.
>> Anonymous
>>257505

Do you know any photogs with one? or maybe go to the local store and ask them what they recommend
>> Anonymous
>>257505

If you have to pick between:
a.) Lightsphere
b.) OmniBounce

AND both are the same price ($20)

THEN get the Lightsphere.
>> Anonymous
>>257509

nope, don't know anyone with equipment

the store that sells stuff has good stuff at okay prices but they are mostly not trained at all or not even photographers

if anyone remembers that thread (a long time ago) they were arguing with me that a 17-55 on a crop body would be wider than a 24-70 on full frame, i buy from them but i don't ask them technical questions
>> Anonymous
Damn. Well, I've basically said my thoughts/ideas. I don't know much on flash photog/bouncing so I hope everything goes well for you. You could try asking here, too, btw: www.dgrin.com
>> Anonymous
>>257513

yeah, i guess lightsphere it is then

>> seems to be more useful, specially in portrait orientation vs. the omni bounce

i said that earlier, just seems better than the omni bounce ;f
>> Anonymous
Have someone in a white shirt stand to the left of you during the whole event and bounce the flash off of them.
>> huge_tool !wU9wX01ppM
>>257519
I don't have either one, but from what I've heard the OmniBounce is basically a poor man's version of the Lightsphere.
If you're going to be shooting humans, the Lightsphere is supposed to give better light and a softer, more flattering glow. Normally the Lightsphere is more expensive than the OmniBounce (like $20-$30 more) so usually poorfags try to make do with it.