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Atrum
Well i am looking into DSLR's now because i have relized how outdated my Canon Rebel K2 is. I do not want to get another canon because its much more expensive then nikon. I have only looked in to nikon but i know Pentax is though highly of
>> Anonymous
Is this a troll or what?

Get a Rebel XT or XTi and quit whining. What Nikons are you talking about if you think Rebel XT/XTi is too expensive?
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>60851
QFT.

In what way is Canon more expensive than Nikon?
>> Anonymous
Go with Canon unless you're loaded enough to replace all your lenses. And I even dislike Canon.

Between that comparison, Pentax, easily. See the thread where the guy is asking about the D80 for a discussion.

(Side note: /p/ website with an FAQ on equipment, so we can just give these people links?)
>> Atrum
OH crap what happend to the rest of my message.

I just thought the lenses and stuff with the canon was to much.

From the end of my original message this is how it was supposed to be.

...But i know pentax is though of highly, i have looked into nikon and have decided on a D40x or D80. I rather have the D40x because its 200 less and it almost the same.

I have not looked into pentax but wanted to know what would be recomened, i know it has anti shake built in but other then that, nothing.

I would want a camera in $800 range, and lenses for landscape and telescopic, i don't like taking pictures of people.
>> Atrum
>>60856
I never bought extra lenses i have the then 28-90mm one that came with it
>> Anonymous
Pentax's offering in that price range is weatherproof, as well as having the anti-shake.

Here's a link to the Pentax on sale with the kit lens, which will cover the focal lengths you need for landscape, and some telephoto lengths, up to 82.5mm equivalent.
>> Atrum
>>60861
no link
>> Anonymous
>>60863
Sorry. Here it is:

http://www.adorama.com/IPXK10DK.html
>> Anonymous
>>60865

Thank you

I like that it has a range that goes to 18mm so i can use it as a wide lense. What about a telscopic somthing that goes to about 300mm or so
>> Anonymous
>>60857
>I just thought the lenses and stuff with the canon was to much.
Comparable Canon and Nikon lenses are very close in pricing, and third-party lenses from Sigma and Tamron cost usually the same regardless of the mount type. The same is with most of other acessories.

But if you have only the kit 28-90 lens for Canon, then you haven't got much to lose and you may choose any system you like. If you need long telephoto, you may even take a look at newest Olympus DSLRs.
>> Anonymous
I personaly don't really like olympus, but i don't need a very long lens only around 300, its so i zoom in on stuff in the distance
>> Anonymous
>>60871
Then I suggest you get a Pentax K100 or K10 and a couple of lenses like 18-50 for wide shots and 70-200 for telephoto (the latter will become ~300 mm on the long end due to crop factor). Nikons don't feature vibration reduction unless you buy a rather expensive VR lenses, and VR is a feature you'd probably want for landscape photography.
>> Anonymous
>>60866
Just making sure you're aware- digital sensors, being (usually) smaller than 35mm film, also have the field of view of a lens of a longer focal length. For Pentax and Nikon cameras, one multiplies the 35mm length by 1.5 to get what it is the equivalent of. For Canon, it's 1.6. For Olympus and other four-thirds systems, it's 2. I don't know what it is for anyone else.

So that 18mm is actually 27. Still pretty wide, but not quite as wide.

For your telephoto, look here:

http://sigmaphoto.com/lenses/lenses_all.asp
http://www.tamron.com/lenses/default-photo.asp
http://www.thkphoto.com/products/tokina/tokina-05.html
http://www.thkphoto.com/products/tokina/tokina-04.html

And also here if you want a zoom:

http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/cameras/lenses/digital_35mm/zoom.jsp

and also here if you want a prime:

http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/cameras/lenses/digital_35mm/telephoto.jsp
>> Anonymous
>>60873
Thank you i liked the K10
>>60875
Thanks that helped alot

Another question, i know am new to DSLR's since i only had a 35mm and a cheap digital. But is there a large differnce between 6mp and 10mp, i know there is a diffence but is it actually important unless u blow up ur pictures
>> Anonymous
>>60881
Both are enough to make at least 15x10" prints. So 6MP will suffice as long as you don't intend to print posters.

If you're talking about K100 vs. K10, the second main difference apart from megapixels would be weatherproofing in K10. But you'll need some weatherproof lenses to make use of that, and those tend to be expensive.
>> Anonymous
>>60889
Right. Two other differences:

1. The K10D goes down to ISO 100; the K100D only to 200.
2. The K10D has a 95% coverage pentaprism viewfinder with .95 magnification; the K100D has a 96% coverage pentamirror viewfinder with .85. So your call: Coverage and money saved, or magnification and more brightness.

Otherwise, they're very similar.
>> Anonymous
>>60902
I doubt anyone can distinguish between 95% and 96% coverage, and the difference between a pentaprism and a pentamirror isn't as big as pro camera manufacturers want us to believe. The difference between .95 and .85 magnification will be noticeable, though.
>> Anonymous
Okay well i would prefer the newer one simply cause its newere, its that okay or am i just a ass, for thinking new is better.
>> Anonymous
>>61047
Its not a matter of newness. They're two different levels of camera. Think not "new and old" but something akin to "sedan and coupe."
>> Anonymous !MjcMqTX/iM
>>60858
You gotta be kidding me? If you're not going to switch lenses anyhow, you should've just gotten a p&s.
>> Anonymous
>>61082
oh wow, im not goign to invest more money in somthing when i could use that money to pay for a little less then half a DSLR
>> Anonymous
>>61051
I get it, i rather have the extra 10mp and the new features.

I like coupe
>> Anonymous
>>61082
1. 28-90 is a very versatile focal length range. If he's not into the extra quality of primes, that will entirely cover him for everything from street photography to most portraiture.

2. If he's going digital, there's tradeoffs to be made between DSLRs and point and shoots both ways, unlike with film where it's all pretty much the same minus interchangeable lenses.