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A point & shoot with long exposures!? Anonymous
Surely you jest!

Anyway, finally tried out my Panny LZ6 on a real night shot. It took in 4 seconds of light, which in the end seems about right considering the resulting image. But the amount of noise intrigues me.
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>> beethy
This picture would actually be pretty fucking epic
IF:
Apply noise reduction
Crop out the shitty distracting pebbles at the bottom
Clone tool all the powerlines
Please please do the above
oh and resize to 900 width
If you haven't done it by the time I get home (8 hours), I might

Photo is to epic to be lost to such minor flaws
>> Anonymous
>>114639

Well, It's an f2.8-4.5 lens, and I was rather far out at the telephoto end of the 6x zoom.

Now as for the row of trees, I just set the camera on the roof of my car so my aiming options were rather crude. :\
>> Anonymous
>>114639
>why isnt the apreture wide open?

see

>Exposure Mode Auto

Cameras are stupid.

I have a clean sixty second exposure from a point and shoot, also a Panasonic. It was just slightly above freezing is probably why. The next shot I tried was noisy from the heat the sensor made working for sixty seconds. I'll process the raw file sometime tonight and post it.
>> Anonymous
>>114655
Never mind, absurdly slow lens is absurdly slow. No reason whatsoever for a 29.6mm lens to have a maximum aperture of f/4.5.
>> Anonymous
>>114659

Wow.

Are you a fucking retard or what?
>> Anonymous
>>114705
It is absurd, although it isn't surprising for exactly the reasons you state about most consumers.

I'm pretty sure it's easier, or at least cheaper. Like I said, the early G series had really fast lenses, the Sigma 30/1.4 is cheaper than any other f/1.4 lens I've heard from around that focal length, and I've heard the four-thirds system also has some really, really fast zooms.

Something like f/1 is probably difficult, but if Canon could come out with an f/2-2.5 34 to 110 (if I remember correctly) equivalent zoom for a consumer camera, faster lenses are certainly possible. It's just that camera companies are greedy bastards. I suspect it's something like the issue with viewfinder coverage in SLRs.
>> Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s
>>114712
You are missing the serious ammount of _CARE_ that the consumers dont have. Anyone who knows about apreture etc etc is just going to end up getting a SLR because thats what they were designed to do (take good photos) a P&S is just that, if it caputures the scene its done its job, it doesnt have to be techincally fucking awesome to do that.
>> Anonymous
>>114712Sigma 30/1.4

That's because that lens is shit wide open.

Incoming shitstorm of 30/1.4 owners.
>> Anonymous
>>114717

For the price point it does very well. I've seen it compared to the nearest Canon equivalent.

It's not a wonder lens and Sigma have copy variation issues, but worth considering.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>114715
A significant portion of people with SLRs also own a P&S. I think there's a market out there for a P&S with a 50mm-equiv f/1.0 for similar reasons to why there was a market for rangefinders even when there were cheap film SLRs everywhere.