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Depressed Cheesecake !wFh1Fw9wBU
This is totally a stupid question, but I figure I'd ask it now to get it out of the way.

The pictures I take and edit look great in Photoshop (Adobe RGB or sRGB profiles), and using Save As, they still look great on screen, but when I upload them to any site, the saturation just looks awful; the color is flat and boring. One way to see what the image will look like is to use the Save for Web feature.

So, the question is, should I just add a +20 saturation adjustment layer before I export pictures for the web? That seems like a good way to even it out.
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>> Depressed Cheesecake !wFh1Fw9wBU
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OP is picture with Save As

This picture is Save As and +20 saturation layer to overcome web profile saturation.

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>> Anonymous
what the hell? pictures dont magically change when you view them on the internet
>> Depressed Cheesecake !wFh1Fw9wBU
>>145356
Well, apparently they do ... or at least the color profiles do.
>> Anonymous
maybe reset your program?
>> Christopher !LQd6JHwoaQ
>>145358
Yes. depends on the site, on most sites you upload the photo and then the site does it's thing to make it a more appropriate file size. So that usually means cropping and loosing some saturation. Even on sites like flicker, if I use an auto uploader with a resolution restriction on it, I think is the resizing screws with it. So now I just resize all the pictures first and then manually upload them. Sites like 4Chan shouldn't change the look as all, as they don't resize it to the sites specifications
>> Christopher !LQd6JHwoaQ
>>145360

not cropping.. resizing rather.

do you notice this only on specific sites?
>> Depressed Cheesecake !wFh1Fw9wBU
>>145360
I tried Flickr, Imageshack and 4chan ... all sites lose the quality. Do you see the difference between the two pictures?
>> Christopher !LQd6JHwoaQ
>>145363

no this seems strange. Is the file size the same when you take it from the site after it has been uploaded?
>> Christopher !LQd6JHwoaQ
>>145363

yes i see a difference between the two pictures you posted
>> Depressed Cheesecake !wFh1Fw9wBU
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>>145364
good call, the image size went from 844kb to 783kb

I'm uploading the one off my computer, here's the link to it online:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2322/2351738572_d4470e7708_o.jpg

(they should look identical since 4chan will theoretically lessen saturation too)

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>> Depressed Cheesecake !wFh1Fw9wBU
>>145367
Yep, looks like the file size got smaller again.

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/5550/200803210589fh7.jpg

Same picture, also smaller file size.

So, now the question is, does this happen on EVERY site?
>> Christopher !LQd6JHwoaQ
>>145368

hmm I dunno, but the resizing does seem to be consistent.

Resized to 784kb on here flicker and imageshac
>> Anonymous
maybe dick around with your color settings, mine is on north america general purpose 2, and I belive that should be the default.
>> Anonymous
Set everything to sRGB. That'll fix it.
>> Anonymous
uploading something to 4chan in no way changes the file size or colors

you are crazy
>> eku !8cibvLQ11s
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Change your camera's color profile from AdobeRGB to sRGB, and edit your photos in sRGB color profile, so it should look great on web too.

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>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>145381
QFT.

It's not uploading the file that makes the colors go wrong. It's viewing them in a web browser. Most web browsers (I think all but Apple's Safari browser, but I may have just pulled that out of my ass) don't know how to deal with color profiles other than sRGB. Adobe RGB has more saturated colors than sRGB, so when you edit and save something using Adobe RGB and then view it in a browser that just treats it as sRGB, your colors look desaturated.

Have some link!
http://www.earthboundlight.com/phototips/srgb-versus-adobe-rgb-debate.html
>> Anonymous
>>145368
its probably not the size thats getting smaller but it uses different way to count the size. 1000 vs 1024, etc.
>> Anonymous
oh and also notice how in both your pictures you posted at the top have "Color Space Information Uncalibrated" in the EXIF while>>145381has "Color Space Information sRGB"
>> Depressed Cheesecake !wFh1Fw9wBU
Wow, thank you everyone, this is going to make my work much more presentable.