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Did the U.S. government fake the moon landings?
>> Anonymous !4X8vLLNDE2
no
>> Anonymous
i hope the mods don't delete this. this has the potential to be a very interesting photography discussion.

my personal opinion is that it's not out of the question. it seems entirely possible - even PROBABLE - that the moon landing was faked when you consider the political implications of proving scientific superiority over the soviets. if we DID do it, great. but if we couldn't, we'd HAVE to have faked it. it's posible that nasa just never had what it took to land on the moon. for gods sake look at all the fuckups they're making these days anyway -- and 40 years ago they're supposed to have sucessfully landed on the moon?

jury's out.

anyway, let's see some questionable moon photos and hear some debunking of what seems to be wrong with them.
>> ­
i remember theres one where one of the cross hairs on the photo lens is covered up half way, but it confuses the hell out of me. even if it was fake, why would they print cross hair on the set instead of doing them on the lens like normal?
>> Anonymous
>>60726
Film possibly being damaged by radiation is a good theory. I know DSLR's have to be hardened to work outside our atmosphere (thats electronic issues though)
>> Anonymous
>>60728
i don't think the idea was ever that they printed the crosshair on the set - it was purported to be a photoediting oversight.
>> Anonymous
Jury is not out, anybody that thinks the moon landing was faked is either an idiot or a nutjob.

>>60730
Film is not that sensitive to radiation, particularly slow films. The astronauts used iso 68 and 121 Kodak slide film that has good spectral cutoff above the visible range. Furthermore, the Hasselblad bodies they used were fairly robust metal construction which would block most radiation except gamma rays, which do not expose film anyway.

Considering that the US was most definitely in competition with the soviets for the moon landing, if there were any doubt whatsoever in the soviet's minds, why wouldn't they say anything about it.
>> Anonymous
Nu huh, NASA didn't go to the moon. It was filmed on a secret soundstage on Mars.
>> Anonymous
>>60739anybody that thinks the moon landing was faked is either an idiot or a nutjob.

>if there were any doubt whatsoever in the soviet's minds, why wouldn't they say anything about it.


derp derp derp. people have a hard time believing that they are being lied to. you yourself have such a hard time even imagining that anyone would go to the length that it would take to fake the moon landing that you dismiss any other belief as idiotic. yet somehow time and time again, massive organizational scandals and propaganda campaigns based on gigantic fabrications effectively fool the public into believing blatant falsehoods. for instance, the majority of americans believe that saddam was responsible for 9/11. if you look deeper into the situation instead of just listening to what you're told, you realize that saddam had nothing to do with 9/11 and that the government made shit up to make it look like he did so that they could wage war on iraq without consequence.

it may have been the same with the moon landing, but they just did a better job with their coverups and lies. the fact is that there are loads of incosistencies in the moonlanding documentation, and that we had every motivation to fake it if we couldn't actually do it.
>> Anonymous
>>60744
>or instance, the majority of americans believe that saddam was responsible for 9/11
The majority of Americans are idiots. Saying "Saddam did it!" is not different than saying "Bush did it!" or "The Jews did it!" or "The Illuminati did it!" Believing Saddam attacked the World Trade Center is equally nutty as believing we didn't land on the moon.

Seriously, I'm rather anti-authoritarian myself, and even I'll admit that not everything "the establishment" does is some evil scheme.

>if you look deeper into the situation instead of just listening to what you're told, you realize that saddam had nothing to do with 9/11
No one in the Bush Administration, to my knowledge, said Saddam had anything to do with those attacks. They said he had something to do with terrorism and idiots equated "terrists" with "9/11."

>that the government made shit up to make it look like he did so that they could wage war on iraq without consequence.
They made shit up, but not about this.

Burden of proof on the accusers. Come on: pony up or shut up. I'm sick of such nonsense.
>> Anonymous
>>60744the majority of americans believe that saddam was responsible for 9/11.
How do I Strawman Argument?
>> Anonymous
>>60744if you look deeper into the situation instead of just listening to what you're told, you realize that saddam had nothing to do with 9/11

How did you get from "the majority of americans" to me? I never claimed anything about 9/11, nor do I believe he had anything to do with it.

That example is flawed because the government has openly admitted saddam wasn't involved in 9/11. They may not want people to think that, but it's not a coverup either.

>>60744time and time again, massive organizational scandals and propaganda campaigns based on gigantic fabrications effectively fool the public into believing blatant falsehoods.

Name one. Just one, in the US, that has actually been proven to be false. There is a difference between the government being misleading and outright faking something like the moon landing.

>>60744here are loads of incosistencies in the moonlanding documentation

No there aren't. There are things that ignorant people don't understand and that conspiracy nuts twist, but nothing that can't be explained perfectly well.
>> Anonymous
>>60739
>>>Jury is not out, anybody that thinks the moon landing was faked is either an idiot or a nutjob.

Or we are just not americans
>> Anonymous
>>60974
i'm american, and i'm the guy that said 'jury's out'
>> Anonymous
>>Roswell That Ends Well

Truman: Whistling Dixie! I want this sent to Area 51 for study.

General: But, sir, that's where we're building the fake moon landing set.

Truman: Then we'll have to really land on the moon. Invent NASA and tell them to get off their fannies!
>> Anonymous
>>60984
LOL, love that.
>> Anonymous
This same /b/tard has been posting this same *CONTROVERSIAL* disbelief in all the boards on mighty 4chan.

FAILS so hard it didnt even last 24 hours in /x/

-SAGED
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Does not belong in /p/. Rot in hell, little puke.