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motherfucking speed of lite Anonymous
fuck yeah!

i'm going to be a master of lighting now, brb
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>> Anonymous
mac & rebel.
>> Anonymous
>>239148
is dat some hipster?
>> Anonymous
i wish i was a hipster :D

school gives me the macbook but i have xp running in boot camp, but my copy of cs3 is only for os x so i use it from time to time

camera i have to buy myself so i got the LOL REBEL LOL

and that is my brand new SPEED OF LITE flash, i need to learn some pro tips now
>> Anonymous
>>239154
y must you justify yourself
>> Anonymous
i dunno, maybe i am very insecure about myself ;o
>> Anonymous
>>239154
what school do you go to?

inb4 strobist
>> Anonymous
>>239166

local design school, you gotta pay for it

so no, they don't just hand out free laptops, i worded that wrong -___-
>> Anonymous
someone post the front flash noob pic, quick!
>> Anonymous
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>>239175

this?

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>> Anonymous
TTL flashes are such a fucking waste of money unless you actually plan on shooting weddings or special events.
>> Anonymous
>>239231

explain.

also, enjoy your sunpak
>> Pentard !pjwjmEQ1RM
>>239231
>TTL flashes are such a fucking waste of money unless you actually plan on shooting weddings or special events.

I kind of agree.
I have an AF-360 TTL, and it fucks up at least half the time. The automatic settings never work when you're using a diffuser or bouncing the flash, and I usually end up with washed out images with pretty harsh light.

I'm definitely a n00b and need to learn it more, but a fully manual flash probably would be easier to use.
>> Anonymous
>>239247The automatic settings never work when you're using a diffuser or bouncing the flash, and I usually end up with washed out images with pretty harsh light.

it should be smart enough to compensate for that

don't blame the flash for user error
>> Anonymous
>>239244
Because you pay hundreds of dollars for a bunch of electronics inside the flash for the automatic modes that are totally useless in most shooting situations besides snapshots and special events where time is of the essence and quality is not important.

A Sunpak, Vivitar or whatever older flash will give you the same lighting capabilities in manual mode as the 580 for a fraction of the cost. Lrn2manualflash.
>> Pentard !pjwjmEQ1RM
>>239249
>it should be smart enough to compensate for that
>don't blame the flash for user error

Unfortunately it isn't.
I can adjust settings to get it to work most of the time, but it means wasting time firing test shots and adjusting settings when the whole reason TTL is supposed to be superior to manual is that it's supposed to work automatically.
>> Anonymous
>>239254

TTL is supposed to be automatic, not superior

if you don't know how to use it correctly, don't blame TTL
>> Anonymous
late 80s TTL is shit. Got a practika BD24 TTL doesn't work half the time, I justs tick to manual.
>> Pentard !pjwjmEQ1RM
>>239262
>TTL is supposed to be automatic, not superior
>if you don't know how to use it correctly, don't blame TTL

Uh-oh. Another Anon with low reading comprehension.

IT. DOES. NOT. WORK. CORRECTLY. IN. AUTO. MODE.
ROUGHLY. 50%. OF. THE. TIME.
BECAUSE. IT. METERS. POORLY.
IN. COMPLICATED. LIGHTING. SITUATIONS.
WHICH. MEANS. I. HAVE. TO. USE. IT. IN. MANUAL. MODE.
FOR. ANYTHING. OTHER. THAN. BASIC. INDOOR. SNAPSHOTS.
>> Anonymous
can anyone suggest a good manual flash?
>> Anonymous
>>239267

rofl

first of all, TTL is not ETTL or iTLL or whatever the Pentax wants to call theirs

second, it's automatic

IT
DOES
NOT
FUCKING
MEAN
IT
GETS
IT
RIGHT
100%
OF
THE
TIME

you fucking idiot

you have a history for user error with your shittastic focused shots

just because it's autofocus doesn't meant it will get it right 100% of the time, it's you, it's the camera, it's the lens, it's the subject, TO ERR IS HUMAN

if you see there's a fucking problem, you apply FEC as fucking needed, it's that fucking simple, it takes 2 clicks to do it and if you can't manage that, don't blame the flash because you stuck it on TLL and thought it would do everything for you

it's only as good as what the internal meter thinks is okay, use your fucking brain when it's wrong

and if it's fucked 50% of the fucking time, then you're obviously doing something wrong or it's because Pentax fucking sucks
>> Anonymous
Get fucking destroyed, you double-A battery loving faggot.
>> Anonymous
>>239267
It's because you use a Pentax.
>> Anonymous
stop posting those one liners after my rant, you faggots

he will think we're samefags now, what the fuck
>> Pentard !pjwjmEQ1RM
>>239282
>you have a history for user error with your shittastic focused shots
HURFF PURFF MY AF SUCKS SO IT MUST BE MY FAULT
>it's only as good as what the internal meter thinks is okay, use your fucking brain when it's wrong
...which is exactly what I said. Good job, you learned how to read!

>>239289
K10D & K20D use the same kind of rechargeable batteries as Canon and Nikon cameras.

>>239292
>It's because you use a Pentax.

Probably. If I had it to do over I probably would have bought Nikon.
>> Anonymous
>>239295

only the most insecure tripfriends (ie beethy, sage) declare samefag left and right.

but even they know in the back of their mind that it's silly think there's only one anonymous poster that visits this board.
>> Anonymous
>>239298HURFF PURFF MY AF SUCKS SO IT MUST BE MY FAULT

>> it's you, it's the camera, it's the lens, it's the subject, TO ERR IS HUMAN

it can be any number of things

you are the person using it, you have a brain, the camera doesn't, you have to compensate for it if it fails to do what you want it to do

>> ...which is exactly what I said. Good job, you learned how to read!

thanks, man

too bad you didn't

>> and if it's fucked 50% of the fucking time, then you're obviously doing something wrong or it's because Pentax fucking sucks

if half your fucking shots are wrong, then you are doing it fucking wrong

or you are an idiot who sticks it in TTL and leaves it there no matter fucking what

it's automatic but you still need to fucking intervene when it gets it wrong

jesus christ, you fucking child
>> Pentard !pjwjmEQ1RM
>>239304
>you are the person using it, you have a brain, the camera doesn't, you have to compensate for it if it fails [at AF] to do what you want it to do
::sigh:: How many times do we have to go over this?
Shitty eyesight, super-small viewfinder on the K10D, etc., so I have massive trouble focusing manually. However I think there's a problem with my camera (bought it used) and I may need to send it in for repair since the AF is off literally 100% of the time.

>if half your fucking shots are wrong, then you are doing it fucking wrong
Or, as I have stated, its automatic mode meters poorly and sucks balls.

>or you are an idiot who sticks it in TTL and leaves it there no matter fucking what
Or, as I have stated, I switch it to manual to correct things all the time.

>it's automatic but you still need to fucking intervene when it gets it wrong
Which nullifies the point of buying a significantly more expensive automatic flash instead of just getting a cheap manual flash.

When it gets it wrong and I have to manually correct it more than 50% of the time, buying manual would make more sense. And of course the documentation for this specific flash is four years out of date and incredibly shitty. Wheee.
>> Anonymous
>>239316Shitty eyesight, super-small viewfinder on the K10D, etc., so I have massive trouble focusing manually. However I think there's a problem with my camera (bought it used) and I may need to send it in for repair since the AF is off literally 100% of the time.

there's a 2.5" screen where you can magnify by at least 10x to check focus

you're going to say I GOT NO TIME which is why we can bracket shots and have continuous drive

>> Or, as I have stated, its automatic mode meters poorly and sucks balls.

have you ever considered that the problem isn't the flash and it's you?

automatic flash can be off, but not half the fucking time

>> Or, as I have stated, I switch it to manual to correct things all the time.

which is why i keep saying you don't know what you are doing

you can correct with FEC in automatic and bring it back when you don't need it

>> Which nullifies the point of buying a significantly more expensive automatic flash instead of just getting a cheap manual flash.

because it seems like you're the only one who gets horrible results 50% of the fucking time when the rest of us can be happy with automatic since it works fucking tip top?
>> Anonymous
this thread is awful
>> Pentard !pjwjmEQ1RM
>>239318
>there's a 2.5" screen where you can magnify by at least 10x to check focus
>you're going to say I GOT NO TIME which is why we can bracket shots and have continuous drive
How is that helpful when I'm shooting unposed shots of people who aren't models? What am I supposed to do when the AF is off in a shot like that? Go back in time and redo it?

>have you ever considered that the problem isn't the flash and it's you?
>automatic flash can be off, but not half the fucking time
Do you own this specific flash? Do you know this firsthand?

>which is why i keep saying you don't know what you are doing
>you can correct with FEC in automatic and bring it back when you don't need it
When did I indicate that I was PRO LEVEL using this thing? Fuck, I've been trying to find some decent manuals or information on how to use this fucking thing for weeks now, but I can't find any. If you've got anything specific to this flash I'd love to see it.

>because it seems like you're the only one who gets horrible results 50% of the fucking time when the rest of us can be happy with automatic since it works fucking tip top?
Really? I'm the only one who gets horrible results 50% of the fucking time with this specific flash? Do you have links to people talking about how to use this flash? PLZ PROVIED.
>> Anonymous
Summary for those interested: auto flash is for faggots.
>> Pentard !pjwjmEQ1RM
>>239319
>this thread is awful

I agree, but if anyone knows much about working with flashes I'd love to get more info.
Like I said, I'm hell of a n00b with flash photography, and unfortunately for me Pentax's flashes have the shittiest documentation I've ever seen.

http://pentax.com.au/pentax/cfdownload/index.cfm?fileDir=C:%5CInetpub%5Cwwwroot%5Cpentax%5Cdownloads
%5C&fileName=Manual_Flash_AF360FGZ_en.pdf&size=2117074&action=download
>> Anonymous
>>239326How is that helpful when I'm shooting unposed shots of people who aren't models? What am I supposed to do when the AF is off in a shot like that? Go back in time and redo it?


>> you're going to say I GOT NO TIME which is why we can bracket shots and have continuous drive

>> Do you own this specific flash? Do you know this firsthand?

you can just admit the flash you're using sucks and we can end the discussion right here if you want

>> When did I indicate that I was PRO LEVEL using this thing? Fuck, I've been trying to find some decent manuals or information on how to use this fucking thing for weeks now, but I can't find any. If you've got anything specific to this flash I'd love to see it.

if you have no fucking idea what you're doing, then don't fucking talk about those things?

>> I kind of agree.
>> I have an AF-360 TTL, and it fucks up at least half the time. The automatic settings never work when you're using a diffuser or bouncing the flash, and I usually end up with washed out images with pretty harsh light.

saying bullshit like that is fucking retarded

you don't even how the thing fucking works, and your first reply in this thread is saying YEAH I AGREE, IT DOESN'T WORK HALF THE TIME, WHICH IS WHY TTL SUCKS

>> Really? I'm the only one who gets horrible results 50% of the fucking time with this specific flash? Do you have links to people talking about how to use this flash? PLZ PROVIED.

oh wow, now you're just being childish, you fucking child

you're the one who keeps saying DOES NOT WORK HALF THE TIME

do you ever see people post on /p/ complaining about their automatic flash, fucking no because it works like it's supposed to work like fucking magic 9 out of 10 shots unless it gets fucking confused by someone's white shirt

that's actually not true for /p/ because a small percentage of people actually own lighting equipment but i digress
>> Anonymous
>>239333
just start playing with it as much as you can. i use mine whenever im bored and want to take pictures of my cats.
you might try writing settings down so you can go back and look at them.
>> Pentard !pjwjmEQ1RM
>>239336
>you don't even how the thing fucking works, and your first reply in this thread is saying YEAH I AGREE, IT DOESN'T WORK HALF THE TIME, WHICH IS WHY TTL SUCKS
I shouldn't have to know the ins and outs of it when it's in FULL AUTO FUCK YEAR. Especially since you're saying that
FULL AUTO IS AWESOME 9/10 A++

>do you ever see people post on /p/ complaining about their automatic flash, fucking no because it works like it's supposed to work like fucking magic 9 out of 10 shots unless it gets fucking confused by someone's white shirt
>that's actually not true for /p/ because a small percentage of people actually own lighting equipment but i digress
Are you a newfag or something? Maybe 10% of /p/ owns lighting gear, tops. People don't talk about flashes on here at all, other than to say LOL STROBIST SUX
>> Anonymous
>>239333
Put your camera and flash on manual. Set your shutter speed to 1/125th and shoot something indoors in low light. Now all that determines the strength of the flash is how far it is from the subject, what power setting the flash is on, and what aperture you set on the camera.

An easy experiment - Set your camera to f/8 and the flash to the medium power setting. Take a shot of something with the flash a foot away from it. Now try it 2 feet away. The flash will light the subject half as bright as the first shot. Now go to 4 feet - half as much light as 2 feet. Light decreases by a stop each time the distance is doubled. You can do the same thing by stopping down the aperture and not moving the flash. It's very simple once you get a hang of it. The only factor with any mystery to it is the flash power setting which is not always consistent or based on stops.
>> Anonymous
>>239333
Should've invested in the AF-540 FGZ!

I have one and it's never done anything it's not supposed to in P-TTL mode.

I agree that the manual isn't all it could be, but there are only so many functions a flash can have.
>> Anonymous
>>239342I shouldn't have to know the ins and outs of it when it's in FULL AUTO FUCK YEAR. Especially since you're saying that FULL AUTO IS AWESOME 9/10 A++

you can't seem to grasp that the concept of automatic flash is it will choose a setting for you based on what it meters

it's not called automatic 100% correct flash exposure

it's good enough that you don't have to intervene most of the time

put your camera in program, also known as AUTO exposure, it will work pretty damn fucking well until it gets confused

put it in a, s or m, then you're the fucking man and that's just part of the game to miss a shot if you're not in the right setting at the right time, no one is fucking perfect

it's the same fucking thing for a flash, automatic flash is a simple concept that you can't seem to fucking understand

you put it in automatic, and it will work pretty fucking well and when it doesn't, you override it

it's good enough nearly all the time, it's not called automatic 100% correct flash exposure

>> Are you a newfag or something? Maybe 10% of /p/ owns lighting gear, tops. People don't talk about flashes on here at all, other than to say LOL STROBIST SUX

did you read what i fucking said?

>> that's actually not true for /p/ because a small percentage of people actually own lighting equipment but i digress

a SMALL PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE actually own lighting equipment

jesus
>> Pentard !A0uuZYOj2M
>>239352

fuck you faggot
>> Pentard !pjwjmEQ1RM
>>239370

Not me, but I'm done with this thread.
Tired of arguing with an idiot who can't fathom that a TTL flash doesn't work right half the time when shooting in AUTO mode.

Like I said, it works fine for snapshots and shit, but as soon as you take it off the camera or try using it as a fill light you basically have to just set it all manually.
>> Anonymous
>>239382Tired of arguing with an idiot who can't fathom that a TTL flash doesn't work right half the time when shooting in AUTO mode.

no, you're the idiot who can't seem to accept that he either

a) has no fucking clue how to use a flash

b) his flash fucking sucks shit at metering

jesus christ, you're an idiot Pentard, i hope you are trolling here

>> but as soon as you take it off the camera or try using it as a fill light you basically have to just set it all manually.

uh, wow because then THROUGH THE LENS metering will not work anymore and you have to set it manually?

oh wow, that almost made me chuckle
>> Pentard !pjwjmEQ1RM
>>239388
>no, you're the idiot who can't seem to accept that he either
>a) has no fucking clue how to use a flash
>b) his flash fucking sucks shit at metering
>jesus christ, you're an idiot Pentard, i hope you are trolling here

0/10.
I've stated already that it sucks at metering, in those words.
You need to try harder at trolling dude, this is getting way too obvious.

>uh, wow because then THROUGH THE LENS metering will not work anymore and you have to set it manually?
>oh wow, that almost made me chuckle

TTL cable, you dumb fucker.
>> Anonymous
i just read this thread and facepalmed.

you guys sure are some dumb faggots.. arguing at the SAME TIME that "the flash doesnt suck, you just have to put it in manual mode when it doesnt work in auto" while saying "you should shoot manual b/c auto mode sucks"

then you have pentard saying "whats the point of getting an automatic flash if you have to compensate for it all the time when you can buy a manual flash much cheaper with the same power level?"

basically, he's saying "while the flash itself doesnt suck, the automatic mode does suck - and since you have to compensate for it all the time, you should just buy a manual one instead"

tl;dr i dont see why anyone is arguing with him
>> Anonymous
>>239392You need to try harder at trolling dude, this is getting way too obvious.

yeah, i'm calling you out for being a fucking idiot at using your equipment and i'm a troll, that's awesome

>> I've stated already that it sucks at metering, in those words.

then it's settled, you're using a shittastic flash that sucks shit at metering

that doesn't meant the rest of world is doing a shitty job of using their flashes like you are, you incompetent idiot

>> TTL cable, you dumb fucker.

yeah, that 24 inches of cable works really fucking well

>> arguing at the SAME TIME that "the flash doesnt suck, you just have to put it in manual mode when it doesnt work in auto" while saying "you should shoot manual b/c auto mode sucks"

using FEC ? putting it in manual, it takes 2 click and you're good, everything is still automatic

>> basically, he's saying "while the flash itself doesnt suck, the automatic mode does suck - and since you have to compensate for it all the time, you should just buy a manual one instead"

that's his fucking issue for using a shitty fucking flash that doesn't work well and saying TTL sucks just because it doesn't work for him
>> Pentard !pjwjmEQ1RM
>>239403
>tl;dr i dont see why anyone is arguing with him

Because /p/ is full of trolls, I guess?


>>239410
You're getting worse and worse at this.
-10/10 since you're starting to contradict yourself.
>> Anonymous
>>239442

classic response from an idiot trying to back out of an argument

where the fuck did i contradict myself

you obviously have no fucking clue what you are doing, you already do not have a fucking place in this conversation
>> Pentard !pjwjmEQ1RM
>>239530

I stated that I have a Pentax AF-360 flash, and that its metering sucks so the TTL features are useless much of the time, so I don't have much faith in the reliability of TTL features and it would have been better for me to invest in a manual flash.

None of which is "wrong" or my fault or whatever, yet you keep coming in here and screaming BAWWWW!!!! BAWWWW!!!! over and over again, flip-flopping back and forth between blaming me and blaming the flash, saying that TTL is great because nobody on /p/ ever complains about it one second, and then saying that nobody on /p/ has TTL flashes anyway.

At this point it's clear that *YOU* don't own a TTL flash and don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
>> beethy !vW/UaE6zYU
Just my 2 cents...

As I've been using flash a lot more and trying to get to grips with it I find ETTL extremely unpredictable. Maybe that's because I'm not skilled enough yet but I'm thinking I'll try manual out now.
>> Anonymous
>>239563

and i stated right at the fucking beginning

>> first of all, TTL is not ETTL or iTLL or whatever the fuck Pentax wants to call theirs

there is a fucking difference and if your shitty ass fucking flash only does TTL, then you only have yourself to blame you goddamn fucking idiot

>> flip-flopping back and forth between blaming me and blaming the flash

get it right

i said you either have no fucking idea what you're doing or you're using a shitty ass fucking flash

but it looks like it's both in your case, Pentard

>> saying that TTL is great because nobody on /p/ ever complains about it one second, and then saying that nobody on /p/ has TTL flashes anyway.

oh wow, that one went right over your head, didn't it

i said no one complains about automatic flash on /p/

and then i made a side joke about how no one on /p/ would complain anyway because such a small percentage of people on /p/ actually own lighting and know about it, case in point: you

>> At this point it's clear that *YOU* don't own a TTL flash and don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

yeah, after i've shown your sorry ass not knowing two shits about how a simple fucking flash works, i don't know what i'm talking about, that's really fucking rich

i think after all these posts, all you managed to do is ridicule yourself for everyone to see how little you know about anything

here's a good one, man, i'm the original poster of this thread, that's my baby right there in my hand, good game, come back next year
>> Anonymous
>>239154
Atleast you didnt get a LOL D40 LOLOLOL
>> Anonymous
ITT: Bawww over useless shit, stop being such dramafaries and get the fuck along.

Build a bridge, get the fuck over it
>> I||ICIT !!mknjFN/v/49
>>239745
QFT lol

either way ill stick to ETTL II!!!, zomg did you get that, II/2 or as the czechs like to put it; dva

works great for me, and if it doesnt, apply some FEC till it does :D
>> Anonymous
>> either way ill stick to ETTL II!!!, zomg did you get that, II/2 or as the czechs like to put it; dva
>> works great for me, and if it doesnt, apply some FEC till it does :D

oh wow, someone else who understands how it works

you should learn your lesson from him Pentard

but then again, your shittastic flash probably doesn't even do intelligent TTL like nikon's i-TTL or canon's E-TTL

fucking LOL