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Raw to jpeg Laser
Hi! I'm new to RAW-photographing, and I'm wondering this;

After i have adjusted my RAW-photo in Lightroom and retouched it a bit i Photoshop CS3, i tried to save it to jpeg.

But it looses a lot of the saturation? Is this a common problem? What do I do?

Picture to the left: Screenshot from Photoshop.
Picture to the right: The jpeg afte conversion.

Thanks for answer! And critics as well:)
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>> Anonymous
This is a very common problem.
There is no real solution for it.
The only solution is to save in PNG.
>> Anonymous
Color spaces and shit, bro
>> Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s
>>188009
shut up, you.

Make sure you save with the correct colour profile settings. Someone who knows CS3 can tell you how to do that.
>> Liska !!LIVFOETqL8j
>>188006

Convert your color profile to anything SRGB. The internet fricks them up quite badly. Also make sure to convert it BEFORE you do any post processing. Lightroom exports in Adobe RGB.
>> Anonymous
>>188012

Do you have a better solution?
OP's example is extreme, but I ALWAYS loose saturation when saving to JPEG. It's just a part of JPEG image compression.
>> Anonymous
this wouldn't be

as big a problem

if our browsers were ICC aware

safari doesn't count because it's less than 10% of users
>> Laser
It has never really been a problem for me, except from when working with pictures from Lightroom.. I'll search around for how-toes on convert color-profiles!
>> Laser
Ok.. fuckit... Can someone just tell me what I should convert to, and how I do it? :)
>> Anonymous
google 'web color', then proceed to cry.
>> Anonymous
>>188040

said already

sRGB

and stop trying to make it universal because you can't
>> Anonymous
Solution: Boost the saturation before saving for web JPGs. Problem solved.
>> Anonymous
>>188025
firefox 3 is gonna be ICC aware!
>> Laser
Ok so i figured it out.. I have Prophoto as working profile.. When i converted to sRGB it got fixd.

If i change the working profile to to sRGB will this permanently fix this? Is Prophoto the default?
Don't wanna come off as whining, but googling this in English really confuses me, not being to good with English-color-profile-lingo=)
>> Anonymous
>>188060
yes.
>> Laser
would changing to sRGB as working profile fuck some other shit up?
>> Anonymous
>>188006
Have the same problem with lightroom so i gave it up on it
>> Laser
what's the preferred working profile for people on /p/ thats into both photo and gfx?
>> Liska !!LIVFOETqL8j
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>>188078

Only if you assign the profile, not convert. Use convert only- that way it won't mess things up. The INTERNET is actually waht messes up any other color profiles, so the SRGB is the best choice. it's never let me down.

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>> Liquefied !!CF1+3tSFCce
>>188235
I use ProPhoto because it's the current catch-all profile. It's larger than all the other ones (bigger than Adobe RGB and monstrously larger than sRGB) so it's the best profile to save your master files in (you will lose the least amount of color info keeping your files ProPhoto). I just convert the a copy of the file to sRGB when I'm posting stuff on the web. It's really not that difficult. Color should remain consistent if you do it this way.
>> Anonymous
>>188006
The picture you posted is in .jpg. HOW DID YOU PRESERVE THE SATURATION IN THE RAW FILE AND DEMONSTRATE THE LOSS OF SATURATION IN THE JPG IF YOUR EXAMPLE IS A JPG? SHOULDN'T BOTH SIDES LOOK THE SAME?
>> Anonymous
>>188244
>Picture to the left: Screenshot from Photoshop.
>> Anonymous
>>188248
Yeah but it's still a jpg.
>> Anonymous
>>188251
you're still a jpg
>> Anonymous
>>188251
>>188252
It would take too long to explain it to you.
>> Anonymous
>>188050
sRGB sucks, Adobe RGB has a wider color space. It depends on the application for the photo. Web display will suck period.
>> Anonymous
>>188283
I posted that. Sorry, didn't realize we were looking for a profile for web display.
>> Liska !!LIVFOETqL8j
>>188286

It's OK, but yeah. Anything that goes on the web (like most things do these days) must be in the SRGB colorspace. I wish the internet was more image-friendly, but it isn't .

Thankfully, if i import the raw file into photoshop, simply do a "convert profile" instead of assign or any other options, the color spaces don't change and it transfers properly onto the screen, internet, etc.
>> Anonymous
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Halp /p/. I get a similar problem only it seems much worse. Image on the right is screenshot from photoshop which is the way I want it to look. Left is after saving it to anything like bmp, png or jpeg. The one in photoshop is already resized and being viewed at 100%.

and for some reason, if I place the photo I saved back into photoshop, it's colors appear the same as the source.

either the Windows Picture and Fax Viewer and MS Paint display the photo incorrectly or Photoshop does.
>> Anonymous
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Smaller size.

Source file before photoshooping is already an sRGB jpeg out of the camera.

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>> Anonymous
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Oh wtf, Photoshop does this automatically. Yet I can screenshot then paste and it ends up the way I want it.

I doubt it's a limitation on the JPEG's color profile cause this jpeg can display the colors and details I want. How can I make Photoshop save it exactly how I see it?

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>> Liska !!LIVFOETqL8j
>>188423

check your profile in lightroom. It's probably using adobe RGB
>> Anonymous
>>188457
sorry if I wasn't clear but I didn't use lightroom. Just photoshop. The source is a jpeg straight from the camera which is already in sRGB. I opened it in photoshop, did a few adjustments to how I like it and now when I try to save it as jpeg, it ends up brighter and the colors are altered.

As shown here>>188424
>> Anonymous
This is weird. I wish I understood it. :(
>> Anonymous
halp, I don't want to save my work via printscreening
>> Anonymous
>>188836
what color profile is your monitor set to? try setting it to the same one you have in photoshop.