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I got a second-hand Canon EOS-1D for a pretty good price. What lens should I get for it to begin with?
>> Anonymous
>>52274
or the 50mm for that matter.
>> Anonymous
>>52275
I'm very reluctant to spend over 500€ in my first lens, so I think that is my budget. I'm probably going to search the local photo stores for second-hand lenses, so that's not an absolute limit, though.
>> Anonymous
Sell the EOS-1D, get a cheaper (but still good) camera, go for broke on lenses.

That's my advice, at least.
>> Anonymous
>>52282
I got it for approximately the same price that new EOS 400Ds go for around here. Selling it wouldn't help much.
>> Anonymous
>>52278
a canon 50mm F/1.4 is within your budget, it's a really nice lens, small F number giving you a good working environment for low light and a nice bokeh (7 bladed aperture iirc). but you'd be sacrificing on photo distance options...

The Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM costs about 620€, and Canon Europe is offering a 150€ if you buy them til the end of January, making it effectively 470€-ish. It offers you more breadth due to the zoom range. The high f number would mean you'd have more difficulties in low light environments and a not as east to obtain bokeh, though.

It really depends on what you want to shoot as well. I'm talking about personal experience here, but I really enjoyed getting an all around lens as my first lens, so I could just get out there and take photos, close-range or not so close-range, wide landscapes, smaller details, so I'd always go for the latter. If you don't mind lacking the ability of zooming in or out, a 50mm f/1.4 is something that should probably last you a lifetime, since there's not much better than it for low light environments (only 50mm f/1.2 I think).
>> Anonymous
Thanks for the replies. I think I'm going to start with EF 50mm f/1.4 USM. I guess a zoom objective would lead to too much hassle at this stage, and a fine bokeh is fine, too.
>> ac
>>52275
>>52285
1D won't take an EF-S lens. You can only use those on the 20D, 30D, and Digital Rebels.

Really, you'd do well to sell the EOS1D, ideally for a bit more than you got it, and get yourself a Rebel XTi or something. Here are things that are loss about the 1D:
1. Can't use EF-S lenses. Not full frame, either, so can't get as wide as a full-frame with a normal wideangle lens.
2. Old. So, older software built into the camera, not as good as newer software.
3. 4 megapixel.
>> Anonymous
>>52298
I really like the solid body construction and size (every other DSLR I've tried has felt pretty uncomfortable) and the fact that it's very fast.

~4 megapixels are enough for me, so that's not a problem. Incompatibility with EF-S lenses may prove annoying (I hadn't thought of that, really), but I think I can live with it. I'm not too familiar with camera firmwares, so I can't comment on that.
>> ac
>>52306
Fair enough. Just don't come crying to me when you want to make a 16x20 and see really obvious pixellation. :-P
>> Anonymous
>every other DSLR I've tried has felt pretty uncomfortable

What the hell are you used to, to prefer the feel of a behemoth like a 1 series to, well, anything else?
>> ac
>>52350
Lots of people prefer the ergonomics of a big camera.

Also, it allows them to compensate for other things of theirs which might be smaller than they'd prefer.
>> Macheath
>>52357
Like their newly emptied bank account?
>> Anonymous
>>52359
I think he was talking about penis size. But that might've just been the naked men thread above this one that influenced me.
>> Anonymous
Okay, I finally got the objective (EF 50mm f/1.4 USM), and everything seems to work fine, except for one little thing: the previous owner has set (and forgotten to remove) his name in the camera preferences, and apparently the only way to change it is via some utility called "EOS Viewer Utility" that was included on the camera's software CD, which I obviously didn't get (does someone actually store the CDs that come with hardware?)

The Canon website(s, I've checked all of Euro/US/Japan) only offer for download an update for the said utility, and it requires me to have a previous version installed.

a. Is this kind of asshattery typical of Canon's customer support?
b. Is the utility (for OS X) available anywhere, or am I really forced to pirate a fucking driver CD for a camera I own?
>> Anonymous
Alright, I ended up torrenting "Canon EOS Digital Solutions Disk" for OS X and got the job done. Still, if this isn't ridiculous, I don't know what is. Why in the world would Canon care about people downloading software that is bundled with their hardware and completely useless without it?
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Here are my first pictures with the camera. They look more like crappy webcam shots than photos taken with a professional camera, but that's not a big surprise considering this is my first camera. Also, it was almost dark outside, which may not be obvious from the photos.
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>>53298
>>53299

Where's EXIF data?
>> Anonymous
>>53298
well no, it has the quality of a pro camera, just not the quality of a pro photographer. :p
>> Anonymous
>>53308
Sorry, that got chopped out while converting from CRW. I have to work out a better way to do that. They're both 50mm f/1.4 and ISO 200. I'm using aperture-priority exposure.