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I guess this goes in here:

While waiting out the clock til my final day at the wretched hive of scum and villainy that is 'Wal-Mart' I realized something; I'm 8 days from moving to film school and I don't own a personal video camera.

I had already made the decision to sell most of my video games before I left (I've barely touched one in months). I'm keeping my PS3 for the few games I DO play and the blu ray player but this includes:

a Wii, a few games, wifi adapter, chargers, and some stuff
a XBox 360, 2 guitars, a few games
Whatever game stuff I can find laying around that I don't need.

I figured I could get a good chunk of change for this stuff and I could use it on a video camera.

What should I look for? Are there certain features I should pay attention too? Zoom, HDD vs. flash vs. mini DVD memory, some have just screen view things and no scope, pricing, etc.

Thoughts?
>> Anonymous
>>239558
if you're going to film school, maybe you should start with a film camera like a bolex or something.

In b4 trolls.
>> Anonymous
This isn't for class anything I just think it would be a good thing and maybe helpful to have my own camera. I'm not going to be making films with it
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>239564
Consider how expensive a roll of 35mm film is.
Consider how a movie camera burns through one of those every second*.
Consider "student".

(* Assuming 35mm movie film. Granted, a bad assumption for a film student. However, even 8mm gets real expensive real quick)
>> Anonymous
I want something I can keep in my backpack and can whip out when I need to film anything.
>> Anonymous
>>239582
canon and sony have some cameras that record only on SD or memory stick, and they're pretty small and i've read that they give you good quality at that. One of these could definitely fit in a backpack, maybe even a big pocket. they even have some that do 1080p recording, and possibly also 24p/60p, but not sure about that.

if you want something small definitely check them out, but i don't know models or names, so it might be a bit of a search job.
>> Anonymous
When I bought my Powershot S5 I spotted a Canon Powershot TX1 in the shop.

It was a bit of a difficult choice because I wasn't sure about getting into amateur video or still photography.

I went with the S5, given it's balance between 8MP photos, 12x zoom, and 640x480x30 video, stereo audio.

If I'd been leaning more towards video I would have gone with the TX1 though. It's a very small camera, seemingly barely bigger than twice the thickness of my mobile phone - N95 - but it's specs seem reasonably decent for its price - 7.1MP, 10x zoom, 1280x720x30, stereo audio.
>> Anonymous
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>>239571

He's not going to go near 35mm film any time soon. A 400' roll of Kodak stock 35mm film is a few hundred dollars. 1000' rolls are $400-500, I believe. A roll of 16mm film is ~$150, and ~110 with a student discount. 400' of film is about 11 minutes and 30 seconds. 100 feet is just under 3 minutes, and that's ~$50.

Also, it depends on what type of film equipment his school has. Most schools teach their students on Bolex, like a previous Anon mentioned. My school has four 16mm Arri S cameras, all modified for Super-16. We also have two modified Arri SR2s and an Arri SR3.

Anyway; suggestion for OP; if you're seriously thinking of becoming a film student; do not, do not, DO NOT waste your money on a shitty handicam or any other type of bullshit. You can get a HVX200 relatively cheap nowadays; it is a good HD camera that is widely popular on low-budget productions of the student/indie/independent level as you can get 35mm adapters to put cine lenses onto them, and their quality is pretty good.

Personally, I prefer film over digital (even in still photography, but I just recently got my first DSLR since it's much more cost effective in the long-run than buying film, even though I plan to get a cheap 35mm SLR off of Amazon someday for the hell of it). The look and feel it gives, and the amount of work it involves in getting it right is so much more rewarding.

Enough of my ranting; OP, get a decent HD camera like the HVX, don't waste your money on bullshit if you plan to become a serious film student. Also, if your school is light on equipment, people will also be willing to pay you to rent your camera from you. Someone at my school was charging people to use his Canon XL2 and it's a shitty camera, until the school got more of their own XL2s and allowed classes other than just the Seniors and Juniors to use them.

Pic related.

Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakeCanonCamera ModelCanon EOS 20DCamera SoftwareAdobe Photoshop CS2 WindowsImage-Specific Properties:Image OrientationTop, Left-HandHorizontal Resolution300 dpiVertical Resolution300 dpiImage Created2007:01:13 11:37:33Exposure Time1/160 secF-Numberf/11.0Exposure ProgramManualISO Speed Rating100Lens Aperturef/11.0Exposure Bias0 EVMetering ModePatternFlashNo Flash, CompulsoryFocal Length36.00 mmColor Space InformationUncalibratedImage Width1252Image Height722RenderingNormalExposure ModeManualWhite BalanceAutoScene Capture TypeStandard
>> Anonymous
>>239732

Oh, samefag; also, another reason he won't be using 35mm cameras; if you want to use one, you need to rent one from a rental house such as Panavision themselves, and a 35mm package costs at least a grand a day (if you get a good deal, that is).
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>>239558
I'll be waiting for you.