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Okay /p/ Im thinking of purchasing a Hasselblad 500C, but one of the things holding me back is the price on the lens. I was thinking for an alternative, I could pickup the Kiev 88. Heard some bad things, so I wanna know what would be a good alternative to a Hassy that shoots 6x6 and is mechanical.
>> Anonymous
Bronica SQ is probably going to be the best bang for the buck. They're decent cameras and the lenses are very cheap for MF gear. You should be able to get a nice setup for around $300.

Another option is the Rollei SL66. They're good cameras and take Zeiss lenses, but the lenses tend to run a bit cheaper than Hasselblad.

The Hasselblad lenses are expensive, but can be a little cheaper depending on what you want. If all you want is an 80mm standard lens, look at the non C-model non-T* models. You should be able to get one in working but so-so cosmetic shape for less than $250.

Kievs are decent if you get one that works, but that's a gamble. I've had a couple, one died but the other was a great camera. They used to be a great deal before digital became so popular, but now there is so much good used MF gear on the market, the Kiev doesn't look so good in comparison.
>> Anonymous
you really need to question how bad you want to invest in medium format before you start buying shit like 'blads.

i'd highly suggest starting with a yashica 124g. it's sharp and easy to use. if you get one in decent shape, chances are the meter will even work.

the images are great, but the cameras are big. if you really think you can deal with continuing to shoot film, particularly medium format, then go for it. but prices are only going to get worse.
>> Anonymous
if you're going for hasselblad 500c, you could also check the mamiya rb, which is also a good system, and lens for them tend to be cheaper as well!

anyway, you can't go wrong with most non-russian MF cameras, enjoy those little photography beasts!
>> Anonymous
>>60180
Some people would rather shoot with an SLR than a TLR.

>>60180if you really think you can deal with continuing to shoot film, particularly medium format, then go for it.

I wish people would quit acting like film is some sort of horrid disease. It's not that expensive, nor is it that inconvenient to use.

>>60182
A Mamiya RB is a completely different kind of camera. For one, it's twice the size and weight of a Hasselblad 500c, and it's not a square format. It's not something you generally carry around, there are large format cameras that are lighter and more portable than an RB. They're great for studio work, but still very different from a 500c.
>> Anonymous
>>60183
Yeah, I can see how that might turn into a problem... you could always create some muscle though :p

Anyway, there are those russian hasselblad clones... by kiev. As it was said, they are good if you get a decent copy. So I wouldn't buy one from eBay, or something.
>> Anonymous
Not worried about film and developing, I had a RB67 Pro S but the weight was what had me part with it. Looked into the Yash and Im considering it, not worried about parallax. Gonna wait a little for keh to get a bgn 80mm for around 250 for the hassy or get the yash.
>> des
I've been looking at the bronica SQs for a while but haven't pulled the trigger on one yet.
If you decide on that one, I've been told by an old bronica user to avoid that student model line they built with the integral motorwinder (not detachable).
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>60183
>It's not that expensive, nor is it that inconvenient to use.
Counterpoint: Yes it is.
>> Anonymous
>>60236
Have you tried it out lately or are you just an asshole?
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>60245
I have, in fact, tried it out lately. I've got two rolls of film sitting on my desk waiting to be scanned, a bunch of unshot rolls in my fridge, and six or seven film cameras loaded and ready to go right now.

But that doesn't preclude me from being an asshole.
>> Anonymous
OP here yeah Ive also thought about the SQA just waiting for Keh to get a WLF. Ive also thought about the Mamiya M645 1000S, only little thing about it is that it has no interchangeable backs.
>> Anonymous
If you're considering a M645 1000s, I'd suggest looking at the 645 Super. It's not that much more expensive, but takes interchangeable backs and is ergonomically nice to use. Also, the 80mm f/1.9 is a great lens for Mamiya 645 with excellent bokeh.