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Anonymous
The Olympus E-510.
amirite?
>> Anonymous
I've actually considered buying this camera. But I have mixed thoughts on it. What about anyone else?
>> Anonymous
>>118689

What are the stats on this camera though? Has anyone here on /p/ ever used it?
>> Anonymous
>>118690

I have. You have to fidgit with noise-filters to get the correct sharpness per photo. But that's really a preference thing. Lots of options on this baby. Much more than the evolt 410. For the extra 100 dollars, I think it's worth it. The battery hatch could be a bit sturdier though.
>> Anonymous
>>118689
save up, get something else.
>> Anonymous
>>118693

What do you reccomend in digital camera technology?
>> Anonymous
>>118694
A Leica M8... or a Hasselblad
>> Anonymous
>>118695

Would you reccomend the e-510 for a starter camera at all?
>> Anonymous
>>118696
No, no. Absolutely not. You get what you pay for. Get the most expensive stuff.
>> Anonymous
>>118699

Why not though?
What are you getting at?
For a -STARTER-
what do you absolutely reccomend? And not just the most expensive piece of work there is.
>> Anonymous
>>118700
Sarcasm and trippin' bawlz aside...

Wait until next week after PMA finishes and see what Nikon, Canon and Pentax has for their starter lineup (Canon already showed their 450d while Pentax went out with their K200D. No word on Nikon's yet). Get the stuff that fits your budget and feels right to you.
>> Anonymous
>>118702

That's just it though. I dont know too much about cameras. And i'd like a good starter camera. Under 1,000 dollars if possible.
>> Anonymous
>>118702

Comparing the Olympus e-510 to the nikon d40, what's your opinion?
>> pin axe
>>118694
i'm not the other guy but i was in the market for buying a dslr two months ago.

I would highly recommend a canon 20/30d or nikon d70s/d50/d80

it was really a hard decision because initially i was aiming for olympus/pentax/panasonic offerings. The in-body anti-dust and anti-shake features were really smart.

But something someone said on a forum somewhere made me realize i was not seeing the forest through the trees, "you come for the body but stay for the lens." Which is true, all the fancy features in the world won't mean much if you can't afford a good lens. Canon/Nikon/Pentax have been in the slr game for so long you can get a good lens in any range for less than $200 while you'd be hard-pressed to find a decent prime for under $300 with certain competitors.

Basically, if you are serious about using your dslr as an investment and not a toy, this is what you should consider
* what style of photography do you want to go into? (which lens group are you going for?)
* does the brand you are going with have these lens within affordable range?

when you make your decision, then you can decide on which body to get. I wouldn't go below the one's I pointed out just because the nikon d40x and canon 300d/350d/400d feel plasticy but maybe that's ok with you.

Don't be afraid to go 'used' as long as the shutter actuations are low. I'd say 5000 or lower is pretty safe.

If you are new to photography, don't underestimate metering. That means, use auto-focus enabled lenses. You don't have to use the auto-focus feature (it's good practice not to) but most manual lenses also don't have metering so just keep that in mind when buying your lens.

Oh yeah, buy the body and not the kit lens. Very few kits lens are worth the price you pay vs getting a sharp/fast 50mm.
>> Anonymous
>>118723
>Canon/Nikon/Pentax have been in the slr game for so long you can get a good lens in any range for less than $200
ORLY? Show me where I can get a 60+ mm prime for $200 that will fit my Canon.

>most manual lenses also don't have metering
Bullshit, metering is a feature of the camera, not the lens. An electronic lens might supply some information to make metering more accurate, but that's all.
>> pin axe
>>118741
who uses a 60mm prime? canon's 50mm AF primes are below $150. check ebay. Does olympus or panasonic have primes for that price?

yes, metering a feature of the body but it relies on the lens to get it's info. strap a manual lens on a modern digital slr and you won't get a measurement. manual lens only house element. it lacks the electronics used in AF lens. A body can't display a meter if the lens has no info to feed it.
>> Anonymous
>>118766
>Canon's 50mm AF primes are below $150
Thanks, but I already own that one.
You said that I can have a good lens in any range for under $200. Now where are my longer sub-$200 primes?

>metering a feature of the body but it relies on the lens to get it's info
Bullshit. How do old Pentax screwmount cameras meter then? There's no communication between camera and lens except for a mechanical stop-down pin.

>strap a manual lens on a modern digital slr and you won't get a measurement
Have you considered actually TRYING that? You will get metering and even working aperture priority mode (except on cheaper Nikons, but that's just because Nikon guys are being assholes)
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>>118766
My nikon will meter any nikkor lens ever made.
Its body dependent, doesn't matter if it has electronics or not.

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>> des
>>118780
>>except on cheaper Nikons, but that's just because Nikon guys are being assholes
Truth'd for truthiness
ANYTHING, a completely non-weighted average, a spot, anything! would be better than the nothing we've got. It's almost silly at this point.
>> Anonymous
Comedy Fuji S5 option?
>> Anonymous
>>118785
Best comedy is an old Nikon lens on OP camera.

AI lens + Olympus E-510 (via chipped adapter) = full metering, A mode, MF confirmation and pilot light, image stabilization.
AI lens + Nikon D** = manual only
>> Anonymous
BUT-- Is the E-510 AT ALL worth it?
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>118856
It's not a horrible camera. If you can take good pictures, you can take good pictures with it. Worth it if you're already bought into the four thirds system (though if you've done that, you might as well just wait until you can afford an E3)
>> Anonymous
>>118856
Get a discounted E-330 instead.
>> sage Anonymous
>>118688
You're exactly right. That is absolutely, positively, no doubt the Olympus E-510.