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hey /p/.

I play TF2 a lot, and i think screenshots could be considered photography of sorts. Obviously not the same as real photography, but still takes an eye for composition.
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>> Anonymous
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cartier-bresson of TF2

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>> Anonymous
you think wrong
>> p-_^t !GZis3Q2bgo
>>211019

MAGGOTS~
>> sage sage
>>211016
>GTFO
>> Anonymous
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I play Total Woars a lot, and i think screenshots could be considered photography of sorts. Obviously not the same as real photography, but still takes an eye for composition.

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>> Einta !!MWv3ICYobCM
They could be. Come back some day when you've actually found some. I do not deny the potential. I simply deny the actuality.

So - get out and come back when you have some decent stuff. I'm betting that'll be around never.
>> Anonymous
>>211019
Tell me - am I the only person who thinks that The Decisive Moment is a really ugly, poorly composed photo? If I had taken that shot, even if it weren't blurred and foggy, I'd probably think "huh, got him in midair. Neat" and leave it at that.

Why is that photo such a big deal?
>> Einta !!MWv3ICYobCM
>>211059
My best guess is that at the time it was taken it was novel, as well as being much harder to get relative to the ease with which we can capture such photos using modern equipment.
>> Anonymous
Tell me - am I the only person who thinks that The Mona Lisa is a really ugly, poorly composed painting? If I had painted that portrait, even if it weren't old and dated, I'd probably think "huh, I painted her on an unlevel background. shit" and leave it at that.

Why is that painting such a big deal?
>> Anonymous
>>211062
This comparison is retarded. Whether or not the Mona Lisa is great art, everyone agrees that it at least took skill and talent to produce.

HCB was a great photographer and I really admire his work, but I don't understand why that particular photo is so associated with him when his other candids are much more interesting.

>>211061
You're probably right, and I can accept it in that light. In that case it's notable for the same reason that something like Luxo Jr. is notable - it was a leap in technical skill and photographic development. But, as far as candid photos go, it's pretty marginal, and lots of people since then have taken much prettier shots. Pic related - it's famous, and much better, but it's not as "legendary" as that decisive moment one.
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>> Anonymous
>>211067
It's more accurate than you think. Everyone says the Mona Lisa took skill to create (and it did, don't get me wrong) because the majority of people can't paint portraits. Most people have taken a photograph before and when they see a lot of Bresson's work, like the one you posted (it's Behind the Gare St. Lazare, the Decisive Moment was a book) they think "Oh, that looks easy, I've taken a shot almost as good before"

But then they go home and look and realize that no, they have not. Associative memory ftw.
>> sage !i/euDJmWr2
>>211069
What are you talking about? It's not considered as legendary by photographers, but V–J day in Times Square is one of the most recognizable photos in the world. I know a lot of people who have never seen Bresson's stuff before, but they would recognize that picture in an instant because it's reproduced everywhere, including like practically every American history book in the country.
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>>211059

I consider it one of the lesser works in the book "The Decisive Moment," but it's still pretty good. Took me someone else pointing it out to notice the drawing in the background. It's more of a humor photo than anything.

The composition is as good as it could've been, the ladder, etc. make for good leading lines.

If I had to pick one photograph to represent The Decisive Moment, it would be this one. (Representing Cartier-Bresson as a whole would be more difficult.) It's not the best, but it shows the international concern of the book, Cartier-Bresson's typical compositional style, that sensuality and humanity he imbued into his photographs, and shows both the "street"/documentary and landscape aspects of the book. The only part it neglects is the portraits in it.

I think that one might be picked out because it's very distinctively French-urban, which is a vapid media way to peg a very cosmopolitan man with an very French name. If I'm not mistaken, more photographs in The Decisive Moment were taken outside of Europe than in. (I'm not going to go count.)
>> Anonymous
>>211074
Not everyone grew up on American history textbooks. I imagine the second you step outside of America's borders the number of peope with such instant recognition of that photo drops by a third.

Which doesn't make it a lesser photo, just I doubt people in other countries see it in every single Social Studies class they take up 'til High School and then in all their American History classes there.
>> Anonymous
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Everyone who knows little about painting (in other words, has tried painting more than once on his lifetime) will appreciate the skill/talent involved in doing a GOOD portait.

While I personally don't like the Mona Lisa, I think it's a boring portait/painting (but then that's just my own opinion) I do recognise painting something like that is hard as shit.

Pic related, first acrylic & oil paintings I did.
>> Anonymous
>>211081
*to a third
>> sage !i/euDJmWr2
>>211081
I didn't say they did, it's still one of the top 10 most recognizable images from WWII though I would say.

>>211078
really? the drawing was always the first thing I noticed in it except for the actual silhouette and the ladder. Thats part of what makes it so great.
>> Anonymous
>>211088
1. V-J day didn't really matter to anyone but America, so no, I don't think it would be representative. Britain was involved in the Far East theater, but only minorly so, and they were only involved over some colonies they knew they were on the way out of anyway. NZ and Australia it mattered to, I'm sure, but why would they care about some sailor in Times Square?

But except Britain, V-J day meant jack squat to people in Europe, Africa, South America, etc.

2. Yeah, I don't know how I missed it now, but I didn't notice it until someone mentioned it.
>> sage !i/euDJmWr2
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>>211093
It wasnt as important, but V-J day definately "mattered" to the rest of the world. It was the official mark to the end of the war and most of the allied countries celebrated it as V-P day.

Australian V-J day dancing man related.
>> Anonymous
>>211096
You know what I meant, I meant relatively speaking. V-J day for Americans meant their son/lover/brother/friend/etc. wasn't going to get a bullet in his the next day. V-E day meant that for people in Europe, and that the bombs would stop falling on their cities, that troops would stomp romping through their homes, that the continent could stop being one giant lead-strewn mess. Comparatively, V-J was nothing for, say, a Frenchman or a Pole.
>> Anonymous
>>211099
And Australians would see *that* one, not the Eisenstaedt one. Probably New Zealanders and others in the Pacific under threat from the Japanese during the war.
>> sage !i/euDJmWr2
>>211101
It's actually a film and that's just a still from it, but yes, it's iconic there in the same way the V-J day kiss is here. I was just pointing out that it wasn't insignificant outside of the US. The kiss picture is still the most recognized picture from that day world wide. More people recognize it in the US, but it's still the most iconic image of victory over Japan
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Behold, 1999 graphics.

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>> Anonymous
>>211160
Fuck I loved that game.
>> Anonymous
>>211160
The sequel to that is one of the greatest games ever made.
>> Anonymous
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Eh, some games have worthwhile photo modes
>> Anonymous
>>211172
What game's that? Looks quite good.
>> Anonymous
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Oh, hay guise.
>> Anonymous
>>211182

PGR3

At the time I only had a shitty CRT which made that pic look real.