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BurtGummer !!RRMHFHglFsy
Lo' /p/

I know we,ve had a lot about about primes recently, so i'll keep this gear thread nice and short.

I need something for shotting in low light. Bars, clubs and Urbex. These are the choices.

Nikon 50mm f1.4 D
Nikon 35mm f2 D
Nikon 50mm f1.8 D
OR Something else...

Choose one, and tell me why? Im currently thinking the 35mm. But Is f2 enough for "pool hall" level light work?

Grazi in advance.
>> Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s
flashless?

50 ended up being too long for me, could never get everyone in subject, one of my friends used a 24mm or so.
>> Anonymous
don't let anyone fool you - none of those is going to be able to catch any kind of action in really low light. Light in a pool hall might by only 2-5 EV. At ISO 400, that puts the shutter speed at about 1/15th sec for ap at 1.4.(for F/2, 1/8th sec) Guys who shoot a lot in low light get a lot of spoiled shots. That being said, I'd opt for the 50mm 1.4. It's sharp, it's faster (I hate that term). Too bad you aren't considering a manual - Nikon made a 35mm 1.4
>> fence !!POey2hdozCZ
i'd go with the 1.8 or 1.4. they're sharper (barely), and faster. the 1.8 also costs about a 120 bucks (liberal estimate) on amazon.
>> BurtGummer !!RRMHFHglFsy
>>237954

What about a Sigma 30mm f1.4 ? It goes for about the same as the Nikon 1.4....
>> Anonymous
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why don't you ask your millionaire friends so they can decide for you

or did you use up all your money buying a new car every 3 months?
>> Anonymous
>>237967
that's a piece of shit, and it's much more expensive than the Nikon 50, 1.4. Beside, what will you do with that if you ever get a full frame camera?
>> Anonymous
>>237972

lol @ people buying crop lenses

enjoy your $1000 paper weights when everyone will be rocking full frame next year
>> Anonymous
>>237971
thanks for the heads up
geez - I wish I would have seen this before I answered that idiot. BurtGummer - why don't you waste someone else's time?
>> Anonymous
>>237974

this is also the second thread he's made with the same question

i think he deleted after people bumped it
>> Anonymous
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Nikkor 28mm f/1.4

accept no substitute
>> Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s
find a 17+ zoom and decided which has teh nicest focal length then buy all of them
>> Anonymous
i will LOL in real life if he has a D40

oh the lulz i would have
>> Anonymous
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this is what you want

the rest is all shit sucks

AF NIKKOR 24mm f/2.8D
>> Anonymous
>>237977
28mm 1.4 is very nice but very overpriced. One day compare shots between Contax G series 28mm 2.0 Biogon and Nikon 28. The biogon blows it away and for the price of a 28mm 1.4 you can buy a Contax body and 4 or 5 lenses.
>> BurtGummer !!RRMHFHglFsy
i dont care about all this full frame shit. Ive got a D80, thats what im using now thats what i'll be using next year. Its sufficient for what i shoot.

SO whats so horrid about the Sigma? It looks pretty solid, fast and at 30mm it would be more versatile than the 50mm.
>> Anonymous
A tripod.
>> Anonymous
>>237991
go away poser
>> BurtGummer !!RRMHFHglFsy
>>237994

One thing to remember in 4chan... it doesnt matter how many reasonable questions you ask, it doesnt matter how much impartial advice you give or how much you enjoy the board..

if you go off on ONE angry rant... the trolls.. the bite your ass.

Same son of a bitch will be askin for help later..
>> Anonymous
>>237998
you have only yourself to blame, baby. The BS you were slinging about millionaires and buying a new car every 3 month stunk to high heaven.
If you really had green like that you wouldn't be shooting with a relative toy like a D80, and if you knew anything about cameras you wouldn't be comparing a Sigma 30mm to a Nikon 50mm.
Now go and get your fuckin' shine box
>> Anonymous
>>237998

that's what you get for using a trip on an anonymous board

idiots
>> BurtGummer !!RRMHFHglFsy
>>238000

holy crap did you just quote Goodfellas?

I dont know much too about photography, its a hobby, but the 30mm did seem like a better choice, and you still havent explained why it isnt.
>> Anonymous
>>238005
go buy the Sigma 30mm and find out for yourself, money bags
>> BurtGummer !!RRMHFHglFsy
>>238008

...so, you dont know. Just like me.
>> Anonymous
>>238013

Do you really think that kind of shit works on 4chan?

Get the fuck out.
>> Anonymous
>>238000
Having money does not mean one needs to throw it around. If the D80 works for him, why does he have to go for something else just because the spec sheet reads nicer?

He never said he was a millionaire, he said he *worked at (managed IIRC) a gallery that hung big millionaire artists* and got paid pretty well for it.

I believe him, because he's mentioned managing a gallery and being well paid for it many times before, when there was no e-peen or reputation at stake.

However, I do think it's pretty silly that he was bringing up being involved in the *contemporary gallery system/art market* as an argument for his artistic taste, but that's for another day. (Also not saying he has bad taste, I don't know his taste, but that's sure as hell not evidence he has good taste.)
>> Anonymous
>>238024I believe him, because he's mentioned managing a gallery and being well paid for it many times before, when there was no e-peen or reputation at stake.

hahahahahahahahah, oh god
>> Anonymous
>>238024(Also not saying he has bad taste, I don't know his taste, but that's sure as hell not evidence he has good taste.)

Burt is the guy who fakes bokeh in Photoshop with the blur tool
>> Anonymous
he said he could buy a new car every three months - someone with that kind of money to throw away could certainly afford something better than a D80.

Better yet - someone with that kind of money should have the leisure time to learn something about cameras/optics to know that comparing a 30mm 1.4 to a 50 1.4 is idiotic.
>> Anonymous
>>238032
>someone with that kind of money to throw away could certainly afford something better than a D80.

Who says he wants something better than the D80? If it does everything he needs, why waste the money? And what if he doesn't want a larger body?

Note he said he *could*, not that he *did*.
>> Anonymous
this is why i love /p/
>> BurtGummer !!RRMHFHglFsy
>>238042

truth.

Im ok paid, i organize exhibits and programs for galleries, and yes, if i wanted to i could buy a car. Im not too great at photography but i like playing around in photoshop.

The D80 is a good camera, no fucking around like the D40.

I mean god damn it.. im only asking about a lens.
>> Anonymous
>>238052

NEVER FORGIVE

NEVER FORGET

YOU FUCK UP AND YOU HAVE FUCKED UP FOREVER
>> Anonymous
>>238108

i fucked up by telling you the truth?

ok. I can live with that. So anyway, good lens' for dark subjects...
>> Anonymous
>>238052

every picture you've posted could have easily been taken with a D40

same thing with that fag who posted with the D3 the other day.
>> Anonymous
>>238052

D80 is total toy compared to what else is out there. Use at D200 even D2 and you'll see. Get over yourselves you sacks of shit
>> Anonymous
>>238133
So true, I use a D80 and it's a toy (though a very well built one) compared to the likes of the D300.
>> Anonymous
It's funny to hear you fucking faggots talking about mid level cameras as toys when none of you can even produce an image that would warrant owning anything along the lines of a d300