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ITT we tell a more or less photo newbie what a decent 'deck' of filters is ..

- 2X zoom filter?
- ND grad filter? (is it possible to get those without ND ;_;)
- colored glass filters?
- polarizer
- UV filter (is that needed?)

..etc?
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
Polarizers are awesome. Highly recommend picking one of those up.

I have a crapload of other filters, but the polarizer is pretty much the only one I use on a regular basis. When I'm feeling *extremely* saucy, I'll whip out my IR filter, but that's very rare. I should probably use my ND filters more (especially since I'm trying to develop my flash-fu), but I'm honestly just too lazy most of the time to deal with those.
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ND grads are awesome for landscape shooting where there's a large dynamic range and the sky would otherwise blow out (and you don't want to do digital HDR) but you want a square format filter so you can adjust it up/down.
>> Teus !QbSstcPD6U
UV filters are default on your lenses to protect them. you might skip them if your lens is really cheap.

after that comes a polariser, circular or linear (look up the diff), great for land-and waterscapes. gradual ND filters come later, for landscapes, when you shoot sunsets or other scenes with huge foreground/background/sky contrast.
>> Anonymous
I think I have an idea now :D
>>72867
How exactly do UV filters protect the lens? I was under the impression the UV light actually does something to the sensor and not the lens
>> phesarnion
>>72869
Primarily by acting as sacrificial protection. i.e. if the lens gets dropped, then the filter smashes, not the lens' front element. and UV filters are one heckuva lot cheaper than most glass out there.

>>72862
Imho, A circular polariser is the king of filters, followed by ND Grads (the slide-in type as used in filter systems like the cokin ones), and finally, straight screw-in ND filters. of the ND ones, I would reccoment a 2 stop grad as the most useful, but a set of 1, 2 and 3 stop grads is ideal.
>> Anonymous
>>72866
o god cokin creative series

such a fucking pain the ass
>> Anonymous
>>72871
>Primarily by acting as sacrificial protection. i.e. if the lens gets dropped

And how often do you drop a lens vertically? Any time I've ever dropped a lens or a camera with a lens on it, I've dropped it horizontally or in such a way that the front element of the lens was fine.

The only protection a lens needs is a lens hood to protect it from bumping into stuff when carrying it around.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>72891
>And how often do you drop a lens vertically?
You only have to do it once.
>> des
>>72895
only two kinds of photographers: those who have and those who are about to
>> Anonymous
Seriously, I drop things all the time and get them banged around a lot, and simply using a lens hood protects the front element without putting anything between the lens and the scene. I dropped a new camera with a new and fairly nice lens on my first time out with them once onto concrete, lens-down. The combination toppled over, three or four meters on a level surface, and stopped.

The only damage was cosmetic damage to the lens hood.
>> Jen
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>>72902

Hahaha! I love these responses. Wait a sec. Lemme go get my camera...
>> Anonymous
a last noobish question, would they be worth for slr-like (s6000fd)? (currently reading books about photos and want to get more into it)
>> heavyweather !4AIf7oXcbA
I first got my 17-50 Tamron with no filter, because I didn't really need one for my 50 1.8 (recessed front element), but after a day of using it, I became hyper paranoid about my $500 lens getting scratched, so I spent another $50 and got a really nice multicoated UV filter for it. If you're going to get a protective filter, don't be cheap, because it's going to stay on there all the time, and you don't want your image quality degraded. Buy the best one you can reasonably afford.
>> Anonymous
I've yet to hear anyone tell me why a UV filter provides protection better enough than a lens hood to justify putting something in front of the lens. Even a great UV filter like Heavyweather's is going to alter the situation somewhat; a lens hood doesn't and provides benefits of its own.
>> Teus !QbSstcPD6U
a lens hood is a start, but takes space and doesnt protect against things getting into the glass

watch out for flare and stuff with the filter, i usually take off the filter of my 50mm 1.2 when shooting at wide aperture against bright highlights, like street lights, I get ghosting all over the place with a filter on the lens
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>>Primarily by acting as sacrificial protection. i.e. if the lens gets dropped

like this?
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>>73032
OP here, I get it I get it
I'll go buy an UV filter tomorrow D:
>> Butterfly forgot trip
ps, big sturdy lense hood will protect your lense far more than a cheap UV filter.

go find metal lense hoods.
>> Anonymous
Protective filters are useful when you're shooting against the wind blowing dust and sand in your face - but frankly, how many people actually do that?
>> Anonymous
>>73066
Health insurance is useful when you go sick - but frankly, how many people actually do that?
>> Anonymous
>>73060
Thats just your uneducated and flawed opinion.
>> Anonymous
>>73069
Dumb analogy. It's not like you can choose whether to get sick or not.
>> annoyingmouse
real photographers use a 1-inch layer of duct-tape to attach the lens to the camera, and then make the whole thing water and bump proof. It does degrade the quality of your pictures though, as they all come out black.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>73066
I did that a lot this year while taking pictures at beach volleyball games..
>> Anonymous
>>73096
Then you DO need a protective filter. People who take pictures of their cats and flowers don't, but ironically they always have the filter screwed on.
>> Anonymous
>>73099
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>73099
I actually never did. The bigger problem is dust getting into the zoom mechanism, I think. My 18-55 feels a little gritty when I zoom with it, now.

S'allright, though, since that's my least used lens and I'm planning to get an 18-55 IS as soon as it comes out.
>> Anonymous
>>73117
18-55 is a cheap lens, so it's prone to sucking dust inside the mechanism, but it's no big deal if the front element eventually gets damaged. Something like a 24-105 L is a completely different thing :D
>> Anonymous
>>73008
What, are you shooting in such confined quarters something going two centimeters out of the front of the lens crimps your style?

Or are you trying to haul way too much around that one or two centimeters stops you from bringing [insert redundant/unused piece of equipment here]?

>>73032
Did not have that lens hood on it when it was damaged, or someone took exception to having their photograph taken and shoven a broomstick into the lens. There is no physical way the front element could come into accidental contact with something that could smash it with that lens hood on.

>73060
Not me, but agreed.

>73070
So, enlighten us, how does the front element of the lens come to shatter when the lens drops and lands on something entirely else in front of it?

And yeah, protective filters are needed when shooting in sandy and/or dusty conditions. But just walking around the city shooting, they do nothing a good lens hood doesn't do better. There are no disadvantages to lens hood and several other advantages- preventing lens flare, making it easier sometimes to steady the camera against something, etc.
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God, how retard can you be..

First of all, lens hood of course helps, but it isn't replacement for protection filter, because:
* Lens hoods are annoying, you have to put it on every time you take your camera out of the bag or when you change lens (and this is the time when it's easiest to drop your equipment);
* Depending on lens, lens hood may be way too small to provide adequate protection (see pic);
* Lens hood does not protect against sand, dirt, water and other airborne shit (and you can't predict the wind);
* Having filter on at all time means that you don't have to clean the front element of the lens - you won't scratch it, you won't damage coting.
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>Lens hood does not protect against sand, dirt, water and other airborne shit

Son, no filter is going to protect you against the 101st Airborne.
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>Lens hood does not protect against sand, dirt, water and other airborne shit

Son, no filter is going to protect you against the 101st Airborne.
>> Anonymous
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Go back to bed, grandpa. WWII has been over for some time now.