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Spitflame !p9u3yWwWGA
Analogfags report in!

No digital fags allowed itt.
>> Anonymous
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What about digitized fags?
>> Anonymous
>>260478
>Analogfags report in!
>Analogfags

/facepalm

Get lost, hipster.
>> Spitflame !p9u3yWwWGA
>>260481
noez -_-

Really no1 here likes analog?!?! or am I too oldfag here
>> Anonymous
I shoot in these formats

digital 1/2.5"
digital APS-C
film 8.5mm
film 135
film 120

soon:

digital scanning back
digital 135
possibly film 4x5

Am I an analogfag or digitalfag?

OH GOD I'M SO CONFUSED
>> Anonymous
>>260483
ur 2 oldfag for us, dood. ur ganna has to find someplace hipper to hangout.
>> Anonymous
>Anal OG Fags

...uh...
>> Project !dashI8UpO.
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>>260481
Thanks for reminding me of this.

"Take On Me" is now playing in your head.
>> Spitflame !p9u3yWwWGA
>>260482
what you prefer analfags? gtfo out my thread troll.
>> Anonymous
lmao at "hipster"

I HAVE A REBEL. I AM PRO?

Anyway I mostly use xa2, yashica mat124. Sold kiev88, trying to sell nikon fe, going to buy another rangefinder, blah blah.
>> Anonymous
>>260490
/doublefacepalm
>> Spitflame !p9u3yWwWGA
>>260486
hmm lower 21 is old??? wow lol fucking fail troll gtfo
>> Anonymous
Post your negatives people!!!!!!
>> Anonymous
Hassleblad 501CM Fag Reporting In!
>> Anonymous
Every day namefags make a bigger and bigger fools of themselves.

Also,
>Get lost, hipster.
>> Spitflame !p9u3yWwWGA
>>260484
Not really but using/making a dark room and all that chemical shit can get expensive. I don't blame your methods.
>> Anonymous
Would definitely rather be stereotyped as a 'hipster' than someone on /p/ who hates film because they bought a Rebel a few months ago and is suddenly a photographic master.
>> Anonymous
Filmfag, please analogfag is a digitalfag pretending to be a filmfag.
>> Spitflame !p9u3yWwWGA
>>260502
namefag hate? oh shit this is /b/? No it's not. The trolling here is mega fail compared to /o/ which is where I am on 4chan 99% of the time.

Too all the shitty trolls, TROLL HARDER.
>> Anonymous
I'm not sure why film is so hated here anyway. Do you really think the people you think of as 'hipsters' are somehow worse than every 15 year old buying a D40? I'm assuming most of you fall into the latter category, since even if you use and prefer digital now, there isn't really a reason to 'hate' film.
>> sage sage
sage for failtripfag

lurk moar
>> Anonymous
>>260508
/o/ is a trolls paradise
>> Anonymous
>>260514
We don't hate film, you need to lurk more.
>> Spitflame !p9u3yWwWGA
>>260517
yep which is why the trolls here fucking fail hard and are as transparent as glass.

>>260514
Newsflash it's just faggots or kids trolling. Or that some people think film is obsolete or too damn expensive.

Here's the thing, I got a rebel but I still use my dads near 30 year old hand me down analog camera. Why? because I think it's more fun and takes way more skills.
>> Anonymous
>>260525
tripfag troll alert

inb4 shitstorm

10/10

was fun knowing /p/
>> sage Martin !!ve2Q1ETWmJH
who the fuck is splitflame?
>> Anonymous
>>260522
Maybe not, but i've yet to see something other than HIPSTER GTFO when anything that isn't digital is brought up.

>>260525
The price never bothered me, but i haven't had enough money to blow on 120 processing for the past couple of months. If i had a digital camera i could have been shooting this whole time, so now i feel it ]:
>> Spitflame !p9u3yWwWGA
>>260526
TOO SOON JR
>> Project !dashI8UpO.
>>260525
sigh...
>> Anonymous
>>260530
What yells hipster is this cocky retard calling film "analog". Nobody in this thread has trolled thus far, and if anybody might be trolling, it's you.
>> Anonymous
>>260534

Well i'm not trolling at all, but the OP's 'NO DIGITAL FAGS ALLOWED ITT' is just as gay as 'hipster gtfo' or whatever the normal response would be. Shrug.
>> Spitflame !p9u3yWwWGA
>>260530
HIPSTER GTFO? Let me go under anon a few days. /p/ has some shitty stale trolls.

>>260527
a disappointed newfag to /p/. Due to the nature of 4chan, I already knew non digital photography discussions in /p/ would be a easy troll topic si expected trolls but I didn't expect not funny, see through shit trolls.

But goddamn the trolls here fail and suck major shit. Not even funny or convincing. If you want some tips on trolling go talk anything front wheel drive in the /o/ forums. You will NEVER get a serious discussion EVER no matter how sincere you are.

Anyways to all the analogfags, much respect. Need moar reports!
>> Anonymous
>>260535
stfu digitalfag
>> Liska !!LIVFOETqL8j
got a canon a-1 working again! ^.^
>> Anonymous
I'm still building my own film camera.
>> Anonymous
>>260542
What materials are you using?
>> Anonymous
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Probably going to buy an Olympus 35 SP next week.

Pic unrelated, kind of want.
>> Anonymous
Nikon F3, looking to buy a Bessa R2.
>> Project !dashI8UpO.
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I shoot analog too but my camera has an analog-to-digital converter called an image processor. It's much more convenient than film.
>> irony Martin !!ve2Q1ETWmJH
>>260538
I shoot 'film' yes, but I do not want to contribute to this thread.
Spitflame, you've stated you're new here, therefore before you go around accusing people of trolling and whatnot, learn how /p/ works.
This is an entirely different board to /o/.
Look! we're a whole letter away in the alphabet if that isn't enough proof..
>> fence !!POey2hdozCZ
you callin' me a fag, boy? them's fighting words.
>> Anonymous
>>260543
ABS mainly.
>> Anonymous
>>260558

Plane tickets, bitch.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>260483
>>260490
>>260505
>>260514
>>260525
>>260538
/p/ loev film.

/p/ haet film vs. digital arguments and "I'm better than you because I shoot film" (and vice versa) threads.

GTFO.
>> Anonymous
>>260593
and its the digitalfags of /p/ that started it dumbass tripfag. Only use your tripfag if you know you're not going to look like a dumbass
>> Anonymous
>>260593
the thread says analogfag report in. Where does it say analog vs digital>
>> Anonymous
>>260530
i'm guessing by the way you mention 120 processing that you probably use a holga, which is why you get called a hipster (and you probably are)
/p/ loev film, /p/ haet lomo
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>260636
>>260637
Well, first off, obvious same person is obvious. Not to mention that you're a person who has a personal grudge against me for some reason, so I'd bet a nickel that if I took the OP's side in this argument, you'd still be flaming me.

Second, the OP said
>No digital fags allowed itt.
which sounds pretty heavily anti-digital to me. It explicitly sets up an "us vs them" mentality, and really couldn't lead to anything other than trolls. A lot of other people in the thread seem to agree with me here.
>> Anonymous
>>260641
I've been away from /p/ for a while, when did it become cool to argue and hate ac? That is all I've seen the last few days, along with an influx of new tripfags that only seem to stay 3 hours, most likely due to school starting up with the ' I TAKE FOTO CLASS HURRR, I KNOW IT ALL' mentality.
>> Anonymous
>>260641
he also said analogfag! and digitalfag! There is nothing biased against anyone except the fact this thread is for analogfags to report in.

Stop being a moron under your tripcode. You are doing it wrong. Or are you jsut trolling under your tripcode?
>> Anonymous
Please brothers and sisters, film and digital can coexist peacefully...
>> Anonymous
>>260651
that's what they said about dvd vs vhs. Now looks what's happening. one is practiaclly dead. I assume analog will go the same route 10 years from now
>> Anonymous
>>260647
>when did it become cool to argue and hate ac?

that happened when the tripfags started to get so full of themselves that even absolute garbage like heavyweather's snapshots has them shitting their pants in a circle jerk of compliments and blind praise. i think.
>> Anonymous
>>260667
It won't, it'll just become increasingly expensive, an item of luxury or niche/specific trade goods.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>260672
We're enemies now, but you just know we'll be making out by act 3.
>> Anonymous
>>260673
just like vhs right? a luxury item ROFL!32
>> Serenar !m827jEgWi.
>>260538
Sigh, if you'd look back a couple pages you'd see the discussion on 35mm compacts that we all wanted archived. Film is alive and well on /p/, but only faggots purposely limit themselves to either film or digital.
>> Anonymous
I shoot digital with m42 lenses, it's probably the same thing.
>> Anonymous
Minolta SR1, stock lens & tele lens. it takes such gorgeous pictures.
>> Anonymous
>>260680

I wish the mods on 4chanarchive would let some of our stuff through.
>> Anonymous
>>260679
I don't know, is VHS a luxury item?
Look at vinyl records, still being produced and sold for DJs and the like.
Look at 135 and 120 film, standards which are far older than VHS or Betamax, and they keep on going.

Photography film a luxury/niche item? Seems plausible to me. Tell me why not, if you insist.
>> Anonymous
Digital was here, analog is a loser.
>> Anonymous
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>>260707
Minolta x700. 27 year old camera :p Also to the other tripfags and anon claiming I hate digital users can stfu. Not my intentions at all. I should have said no digitalfags or instigatingfags
>> Spitflame !p9u3yWwWGA
>>260735
forgot to tripfag it up so I can get anon raaaged
>> Anonymous
>>260735

SRT 101 with MC-Rokkor-x 50/1.4 reporting in. your 27 year old camera can suck on my 42 year old camera's balls. being so old yet it probably would still work better than any camera after it. most cameras from this time period tend to be that way. Oh how i miss the days of consumer products built to last forever. We're lucky if the plasticky cameras they've been feeding us since the 80s last 10 years, not to say half a century.
>> Spitflame !p9u3yWwWGA
>>260741
no
>> Anonymous
>>260735
Minolta is no.1
>> Anonymous
>>260742
NO U.
>> fence !!POey2hdozCZ
people always tend to assume that just because a camera body is built solid that it's inner delicate parts are somehow immune to entropy. truth is, springs wear out over time, and there are very few old cameras that still fire their shutters with any sort of consistency or accuracy. i'm saying this from experience; the shutter is always the weakest part of the camera, it's always the first to break with use, and over time they only get less accurate.

so, yeah. your srt-101 may be built like a fucking brick, but i'm willing to bet that it's over and under by at least half a stop, every time.

quartz timing was one of the best things to come out of the 80's.
>> Anonymous
>>260769
well that's certainly odd, because i have found no such irregularities in my negatives and prints.

granted, it's almost exclusively an FP4 or XP2 (black and white film duh) shooter, so maybe that makes it less obvious.
>> Anonymous
>>260638
By the way i mentioned 120 processing, lol what? I said it was expensive, how does that mean i use a holga? Anyway, i don't, and have never used one. A yashica mat + bronica are what i use. But they aren't digital so 'HIPSTER' lmao owned!! ! ! ! <-----
>> fence !!POey2hdozCZ
>>260774

xp2 has an exposure latitude of nine stops, so even if you were off by three, you probably wouldn't be able to tell. dunno what to say about the fp4. maybe you got a lucky model that wasn't used much, but i know that i've had trouble with mechanical shutters before, so i usually just get a yearly tune up for 15 bucks. my konica is always off by at least a half stop, depending on the speed. 1/60 is accurate, 1/1000 is awful.
>> Anonymous
>>260781

oh don't get me wrong, i know all about older cameras and iffy shutter speeds (though my experience has been quite the opposite, accurate fast speeds, broken anything under 1/15). I was simply stating that this particular srt201 was a champ. it probably wasn't used much at all, but i gave it a good cleaning and tune up anyway. The only thing in it i don't trust is the meter.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>260774
Negative film, especially black and white negative film, is incredibly forgiving to over/underexposure. That's how they can do things like making disposable cameras that don't have any sort of metering in them and just shoot at a single aperture and shutter speed.
>> fence !!POey2hdozCZ
yeah, i don't even think i was actively trying to bitch at you. i just see lots of lolbatteries posts lately, and people seem to be hilariously misinformed about the reliability of older cameras.

can it drive nails? probably.

is the shutter accurate? god no.
>> Serenar !m827jEgWi.
>>260804
Yeah when you seriously shop for expensiver old cameras (past the garage-sale 80's SLR level and into the budget Leica Ms), you really have to factor in adjustment and repair costs before making the purchase. That $450 M2 on eBay will probably come out to $600ish if you want it to actually work properly.

That said if you just shoot a couple rolls of negatives on the side then you probably don't need to be within a half stop of the marked settings anyways.
>> Anonymous
>>260872

In my experience, when you shoot film at all you don't need to be within a half stop of the marked settings. Practically all film can take a stop or two of over- or under-exposure and still make good printable negatives. Maybe it'll have more or less contrast than you want, but that's what VC paper is for, isn't it? And even if it's out, you have several chances to fix it in processing.
>> Anonymous
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hey.. i like shootin manual bro ha.... ahah keep it o.g i has an cannon A-1 with a 50mm lens and an 80-200 early zoom lens
>> Ausonymous !.PKzdt0e5c
>>260735
Minolta X-300 here.
>> Anonymous
I have a split personality, I'll leave the digifag at the door.
50mm primes and old film bodies, whoo!! No, I'm not trying to be cool, I do enjoy that =)
>> Serenar !m827jEgWi.
>>260884
But then you start getting into slides and end up disappointed.
>> Anonymous
those who have both digital and film cameras, when do you use the digital, and when the film?
right now i use a chinon cp-7m, but i'm planning to buy a d60 maybe later, and i'm afraid i'll stop shooting with the chinon.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>261204
I use the digital most of the time. I use the film when I'm feeling in the mood for film. Usually just something like me going "You know, I haven't played with my {Canonet|TLR|Polaroid|Box camera|etc} in a while". Or possibly picking up some film I've never tried before that I want to try. Or sometimes I'll go out with B&W film because I've seen someone else with B&W film shots and it makes me want to get my hands smelling of fixer again. Stuff like that.
>> hhj
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Hey guys, i just bought this for £2 can i join your club

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>> Serenar !m827jEgWi.
>>261204
Digital serves my purposes better almost all the time, so I only use film when I want to use a specific camera, as in "gee I feel like using a ground glass Seagull time".
>> Anonymous
It's all analog when it hits your eye.
>> Anonymous
So where do you guys process, anyway? I've been wanting to get back into shooting film, but I don't have anywhere to even put a darkroom (Stupid SoCal houses don't have real basements, and all my bathrooms have windows.), and all the darkroom rental places seem to have closed ages ago. I figure there's no point NOT shooting film when I've got no creative control over developing and printing.
>> Anonymous
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oh hi
>> Anonymous
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>> Martin !!ve2Q1ETWmJH
>>261335
you could send film off I guess?
Or do it the fun way, and use black tape + alot of black paper to block out all light from the windows..
>> Anonymous
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>> hhj
>>261340
omg nice cameras
>> Anonymous
>>261335
go into a college class darkroom lab time. They don't check 99% of the time...
>> Anonymous
>>261669

lol, you just walk in?

how many people here do all their colour developing though? some of those processes for developing and printing can be next to impossible for folk at home to do, so sending it off is the only choice.
>> fence !!POey2hdozCZ
>>261763

e6 is surprisingly simple. you just have to be really precise with your timing and temperature. there's no real point to developing c41 by yourself, and no one develops kodachrome except for that one lab in kansas.
>> Anonymous
>>261777
So at some point or for some film you just have to trust the developers anyway?

What about for printing?
>> fence !!POey2hdozCZ
>>261782

printing's hard, not impossible. it's really just cost and time prohibitive, so a lot of people never get into it. plus, when you can go get a roll of slides processed for 8 bucks or print film processed and printed for 6, why bother spending a few hundred bucks on a color darkroom setup?
>> Anonymous
>>261783
Couldn't you say the same for all of it then?
>> fence !!POey2hdozCZ
>>261789

yeah, except black and white is easy breezy. you can develop it in a trash bag and be off by ten degrees and it'll still come out alright. not perfect, but still more than usable.
>> Anonymous
>>261763
I only process/print B&W. When I shoot color, it's slide/transparency, since it's all in-camera work there and I can outsource processing without losing much. I need to find a new place to do it, though, I had a great place in Santa Barbara (fuck, what was it called? Right next to Calumet...), but not one here in LA. Gotta find a good place to have 120 done. I also miss the nice 135 slide mounts my place used, the snap-together plastic ones, instead of the cheap cardboard.
>> Anonymous
So why not just send it off to get it developed and a set of prints? It can't be worse than developing it in a black trashbag.
>> Anonymous
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Canon AE-1 Program standing by. I started taking a photography class at UTC and this is the first manual camera I've ever used. I LOVE IT. I like digital too, I just don't have rich parents to buy me rebels and d40s etc like you guys. here's my bullcrap: thiscouldbethelasttime.com
>> Anonymous
>>261945
>rich parents
>rebels and d40s

...

>rich parents
>rebels and d40s

...

>rich parents
>rebels and d40s

...lolwut?
>> Anonymous
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>>261945
>I just don't have rich parents to buy me rebels and d40s etc like you guys

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>> Anonymous
oh yeah, another thing: art students get 24/7 access to the school's dark room and all the chemicals you need so if I'm gonna be in debt for the rest of my life, you'd better believe I'm gonna get a print or 20 out of it.
>> VF-19
Pentax KX, PZ-1p and their lenses at the ready.

And for some reason, I actually like the KX MORE than I like my PZ-1p, and I have no clue as to why...
>> Grev !!5D+HXONd/uX
Have the Mamiya RZ67 and 7II medium format film cameras, don't have any 35mm film cameras anymore.

And scouting for some delicous 8x10 gear as well.
>> Anonymous
fucking gb2 /o/