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/p/ your mods here are full of fail.

Banning someone 50 days for a combo? From all boards? Go die.
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>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
This makes me forgive the /p/ mods for banning me for three days for this one time when I made a joke.
>> Anonymous
Someone I know who also (used to) post to /p/ was banned forever for trying to post a photograph from "Immediate Family" to that thread we had earlier this month of "photographers whose work you should know."

He was thinking of leaving /p/ anyway, so he didn't contest it or anything.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>71292
That's kind of ironic, really.

Just goes to show that the /p/ mods really ought to be familiar with the work of Sally Mann.
>> Anonymous
>>71293
I think 4chan might have some immediate CP detection thing. (How that would work I don't know.) He said that when he pressed submit, it said "upload failed" or whatever, and then he tried again, and then the message that he was banned for CP came up.

But yeah, ironic.
>> Anonymous
>>71292
Holy FUCK! It just dawned on me...

I set up a photo to upload to that thread, and since my upload pipe was kinda stuffed then, I went to check other threads on other tabs. I refresh one, another, suddenly bam, when I try to refresh next - you have been banned from all boards, for-fucking-ever. Reason: CP.

After initial surprise passed, I shrugged and started closing 4chan tabs. As I got the /p/ thread tab, I noticed an "Upload failed" screen. Which I attributed to my upload finishing after I have been b&, and thus being rejected.

When time came, I wrote an appeal, basically (and truthfully) stating that I had no idea wtf has happened. Couple of days later the ban was lifted without a word, and here I am back (in Anon and tripfag forms).

The photo was - you guessed it - one from the "Immediate Family" work. Pulled from Google Images search, with strict SafeSearch on.

I don't think that's ironic, I think this is just sad.
>> Anonymous
>>71298
Well, we know what sort of work is off-limits on /p/ now.

It is sad (and ironic), and to anyone with half an aesthetic sense it's obvious Mann's work isn't porn. Also to anyone who knows she uses a view camera and knows everything that entails.

But it's understandable, since most people in a position to prosecute Moot either don't have an aesthetic sense or care more about getting political points. And oh, boy, even if they could just use a Mann photograph as a pretext for opening an investigation on 4chan... the media circus... etc.

I'm normally all against censorship, and I wouldn't censor it in Moot's position, but at least it's understandable. I'm the stubborn type who would relish defending Mann in court (Damn the lawyer's fees! Full speed ahead!), but I suspect Moot isn't.
>> Anonymous
>>71294
> I think 4chan might have some immediate CP detection thing. (How that would work I don't know.)
If there is such a thing then the only sensible way that it could be implemented is simply by making a list with CP image checksums. If your images matches one of these checksums you receive a ban.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>71300
Hah. No. Go save an image at 90% JPEG quality, then 89% jpeg quality. Try to tell the difference visually. Now compute checksums for both of 'em. A checksum would be instafail for that.

(For extra credit, change one single solitary pixel in a lossless PNG. Flip a single low-order bit. Then compare the files.)

It'd have to use some sort of neural-net type heuristic sort of solution. Basically, something like the face detection that's popping up in cameras nowadays. I recall reading about some papers on automated systems for checking to see if something's porn or not, but I'm guessing a google search for "Automatic porn finder" won't get me as many scholarly articles on computer image recognition as I'd like.
>> Anonymous
>>71299
Well, who's gonna be the first brave one to post Nick Ut's photo of Kim Phuc?

Not only it's child porn (thus pedophilia), but also voyeurism (look at all the bypassers!), exhibitionism (running naked on a crowded public road? wtf!?), and hardcore BDSM (candle play taken to the limits).

OH SHI- I just found out there's a CP video with all of the above and some more on YouTube! And Wikipedia links to it!

In b4 Internet being closed in 3, 2, 1...
>> Anonymous
>>71302
Yes, of course, but that's the only way it could be implemented here. Neural network would never work in this case, it simply is not possible to reliably determinate age with, say, 3 year precision. At most they may use some advanced image comparison algorithm.
>> Anonymous
>>71316
Age for on-topic relevant to all /p/hotographers' interests.

I, too, wish 4chan had a meta-discussion board for issues like this. But since it doesn't saying they're off-topic in their respective boards is just making sure they won't ever get solved.
>> Anonymous
>>71453
There is a board for such issues. It's under the Text Boards category labeled imageboards. Discuss imageboards on 4chan or any other chan type site. Make requests, complaints etc, but I guess /p/ is fine for that as well.

Personally, I think that everyone should understand that /p/ is a worksafe board and most, if not ALL, pictures featuring any sort of nudity should be banned. I've seen some pictures here that are not so worksafe and I think that the mods are letting us slide on a case by case basis. If the content on /p/ is not "censored," then I don't see how it would be safe from camwhores and pornography.
>> Anonymous
7chan's /pho/ is up. I expect to see you over back at our place where the mods don't fail. Go look it up for yourself. Our mod's a photographer and already told us that he loves the board and everyone on it. Leave the gaiafags and furries to rot in their own failure.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>71519
Looks like a great board for people who just can't deal with the blazing pace of 4chan's /p/.
>> Anonymous
>>71520

Or the mods.