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Jeremo !iKGMr61IHM
Alright /p/

Lighting help

So i've got about 600 bucks i can spend on studio like lighting...

i'm hoping to keep the price down whilst still doing semi decent work.

Like shit that PsKaught use to do, elaborate setups with groups of people, i'm aiming to muck around with that.

What do i need?

Softboxes?
Umbreallas? - white, reflective? size wise?
stands and hit
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>> Anonymous
abr-800 ftw
>> Anonymous
>>139463
link or it didn't happen
>> Anonymous
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/425220-REG/Impact_DFUMK_Digital_Flash_Umbrella_Mount.html

Works well with hot shoe strobes
>> fence !!POey2hdozCZ
i was going to say check craigslist, but then i checked it for you. yeeeeesh. australia sucks.

1) http://alienbees.com/packages.html they're picky about shipping outside of the U.S., but it shouldn't be that much more expensive.

2) check.. ebay? you can find some cheap continuous output kits, and probably some decent two head strobe kits.
>> sage
buy umbrella
buy chrome spraypaint
...
profit
>> Anonymous
>>139539
Not really, and you've obviously never used umbrellas. (Or you fail at lightning. Probably both.)
>> Anonymous
Where to buy cheap umbrellas in Europe?
>> Jeremo !iKGMr61IHM
thanks guys :D

Australia does suck with this shit... wish i was going on another research trip to China... the lighting equipment there is so much fuckin cheaper.

Quick question what about this combo? It's perfectly 600 bucks.

http://www.dragonimage.com.au/product.asp?id=1386
>> Anonymous
>>139623

eBay it too!
>> Jeremo !iKGMr61IHM
>>139642

yeah, but the problem is, i don't really know what to get... that's why i'm like asking for directions on what i should get :D
>> Jeremo !iKGMr61IHM
bumopy
>> Anonymous
photo.net, lighting section

read there

no one knows enough to post and those who do don't care or don't want to share (lol pskaught lol)
>> Jeremo !iKGMr61IHM
>>140019

ahh cheers :)
>> fence !!POey2hdozCZ
you have read some of the stuff on strobist, right? i mean, with the sb-800 and 600, you've already got a pretty capable portrait setup. you don't even have to go spend 600 bucks on pretty new monolights (or 300 bucks on radio triggers, since all of your gear is CLS-capable). if you really want to go spend the money and look semi-pro, then you need:

1) lights. you're going to want monolights. you plug them into a wall, controls are on the back you're good to go. there are also powerpack/head setups, but those are superexpensive and are for working fashion pros. you don't need one. there are also continuous output lights, but compare the wattage for those to the wattage in a space heater. same thing.
2) support for your lights. every kit will come with light stands.
3) a way to trigger your strobes. most monolights have optical triggers, so you can use your camera's flash to trigger them. a lot of kits also come with radio triggers.
4) a way to modify your light. there's no quick and easy way to learn this stuff. for starters, get a shoot-thru umbrella, or a brolly box (combination softbox and silver umbrella). steps 2-4 still apply to your speedlights.
>> Anonymous
Umbrella, Maglite, Wax Paper.
>> Jeremo !iKGMr61IHM
>>140055

did you see this kit?

http://www.dragonimage.com.au/product.asp?id=1386

what do ya think?

you're right though... the speedlights would be much more portable... cause i think the strobes need a powerpoint... hmmm
>> fence !!POey2hdozCZ
>>140079

i think you should check out novatron if you want a 160w/s strobe set up. B&H has one for 475 bucks, and most articles and guides i've read on the subject seem to recommend novatron as the brand to start with.

but what i REALLY think you should do is work with what you've got, and take it slow. you've already got 500 bucks invested in your speedlights, and those are more than good enough for learning everything you need to know about lighting. pick up some umbrellas, a few light stands, and dive in. learn how to light, earn some money from portraits and whatever else, then go for monolights when you're ready.

strobist.com , start at the beginning. (http://strobist.blogspot.com/2006/03/lighting-101.html)
>> Anonymous
how does nikon's CLS work

popup flash fires a signal that triggers the speedlights? so it's optical?

how's the range? doesn't it make models blink?
>> fence !!POey2hdozCZ
>>140161

CLS is infrared. It's line-of-sight only, and Nikon claims an effective range of 33 feet, within a 30 degree axis of the camera.

i'm pretty sure you can also set the SB-800 to be an optical slave as well, but even if that were the case, your subject wouldn't blink. you're thinking of pre-flash, where the camera meters flash output and adjusts accordingly. This can take a full half a second, which is more than enough time to blink. On the other hand, optical triggers work basically at the speed of light. The flashes are fired and the picture is long over before your irises even get a chance to contract, let alone blink.