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So, does Canon have any f/2 zooms? If not, will they ever make one?
>> Vincent !!8LCSE0Zp1mL
I think Olympus is the only company with production F2 zooms, Though then you have to use their 4/3rds system...
>> Anonymous
Yes, I know it's hard to make zooms past 2.8.

I remember that guy on DPReview asking Canon for a 17-85 f/1.8 IS for 1000$.

I also remember about that rumour about the 24-105 f/2.8 IS.

Will we see 2.0 or 1.8 zooms in our lifetime?
>> Anonymous
>>Will we see 2.0 or 1.8 zooms in our lifetime?

Probably not. My prediction is that camera companies will continue to refine image stabilization technology and high ISO performance to the point that you can shoot grain free at ISO 6400, then convince everybody they don't need fast lenses.

If anything, I'd expect to see fewer and fewer fast lenses. My guess is that a constant aperture f/4 will become more or less the standard for high end lenses, while consumer level stuff will remain in the f/5.6 range.
>> Anonymous
>>125408
lol no. COmpanies are going for the ISO sensitivity route instead of faster glass.
>> Anonymous
what about the sweet sweet bokeh from 1.8?
>> Anonymous
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>>125424
Unfortunately it will probably disappear. The bottom line is that it's cheaper and easier to make slow lenses, and the average buyer has never even heard of bokeh much less bases his lens buying decisions on it. It's easy to see in the trends already, lenses used to have to be f/2.8 or faster to be taken seriously by high end buyers but now lots of manufacturers are doing very well with f/3.5-f/5.6 zooms targeted at the higher end crowd. If you look at a lot of discussions regarding IS/VR, people seem to think it's a substitute for a fast maximum aperture. Add in ever improving ISO performance and the tendency of most people to buy whatever the camera companies and Ken Rockwell tell them is awesome, and the days of readily available fast lenses are numbered.

Besides, if you want to see some nice bokeh and narrow depth of field, try shooting 4x5. Nothing on digital or 35mm even comes close. Medium format is also a good step above 35mm/digital if that's what you're looking for. Pic related.
>> Anonymous
>>125437
i dont think its as you say. the slow zooms are more with the amatuer crowd giving them an affordable zoom, while the high end crowd will still want their 2.8 zooms.
>> Anonymous
is that a 14-35/2?

Then, it is equal to a 28-70/4 on a full-frame Canon or Nikon in terms of reach and DoF, and you can use higher ISO to compensate for lesser aperture because full-frame cameras have less noise. Also, it's larger and heavier than even 28-70/2.8 full-frame zooms. Ergo, useless shit.
>> fence !!POey2hdozCZ
fast f/numbers are so fucking 1970's. get with the times, man. it's all about media sensitivity.
>> Anonymous
>>125613
But but but my penis size!

There's something wonderful about peeking into the front of a fast prime and seeing nothing but glass. New lenses just don't give that feeling.