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5d mk2 announced Anonymous
What does everyone think?

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0809/08091705canon_5dmarkII.asp
>> Anonymous
this will own A900 big time
>> Anonymous
About fucking time. Enough with the teasing already.

I lol'd hard at the HD MOVIES part. I can't wait to see the RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE on dpreview from all the gear loving faggots who think that it is the camera that makes them "pro" and hate the idea of movie modes, etc. making their camera look like it is for amateurs.
>> lehesai
Only one word comes to mind...
Finally!
>> Anonymous
it's a sweet camera, but it isn't exactly a huge 'evolution' like they were claiming. I suppose marketing's to blame for that though.

But hey, if it wasnt for sony announcing the A900 at 3k, canon wouldn't have dropped this at $2600.

So thank you sony, in a way. I still like the way the A900 looks better anyway, but i'm not ever going to get one of these expensive bodies probably. I ARE POOR.
>> Anonymous
>>256138
...are you serious?
The 5D is so clean and smooth and the A900 is clunky and ridiculous
>> Anonymous
>>256138
ISO and noise performance on the A900 is going to be hilariously bad.
>> Anonymous
>>256140
that doesn't mean that I can't and don't like it, does it?

Is liking canon the only acceptable thing?

oh wait, i'm on /p/. sorry. I LOVE THE CANON ITS SO SEXY I WANT IT TO LICK MY BALLS.

better, faggot?
>> Anonymous
>>256142

doesn't matter, i wont be getting one anyway.
>> NatureGuy !se3A3TwzdY
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>> Anonymous
What would be the most reasonably priced lens to pair with this to get max performance out of it?
>> Anonymous
>>256146

Canon 200mm 1.8
>> Anonymous
canon fanboy disappointment on the forums is delicious
>> Anonymous
>>256146
24-105L F4

>>256143
Oh I'm just teasing you.
>> Anonymous
>>256131
"Recently introduced with the new EOS 50D, Canon's "CA" Creative Full Auto setting can also be found on the EOS 5D Mark II Digital SLR camera's mode dial. This setting allows users to make image adjustments such as aperture or shutter speed through an easy-to-understand navigation screen on the camera's LCD menu, allowing them to "blur the background" or "lighten or darken the image." These easy-to-understand image options allow photographers to experiment with image options while still shooting in an automatic mode. "

It's gonna be the biggest FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF- you've ever seen.
>> Anonymous
>>256149
i still love you anon.
>> Anonymous
Curious to see its high ISO performance, Because of the easy comparison between the D700 and the Mk2

Also why does it appear they are handicapping the AF system again..
I can see why the FPS compromise, but its sad to see they are still splitting hairs with their "Pro" Bodies.
>> Anonymous
>>256127
Too many megapixels, too slow shutter speed (fuck, even the A900 shoots faster, and too few AF points. Disappointingly advanced amateur rather than semi pro. The only seriously good thing is the price per pixel, though I'd have to imaging that you'll be losing out on noise per pixel.
>> Anonymous
>>256150

I love Canon. They are the greatest of trolls and today they have trolled their customers EPICALLY.
>> Anonymous
>>256153

They have the same max shutter speed
>> Anonymous
>>256156
he was talking about FPS. of course, they can't make it faster cause it'd cannibalize the all might sacred cow that is the 1DsMKIII. funny that they still keep the price of that one high.

if canon can sell this for less than 3000, there's absolutely no reason the MKIII has to be 8000 dollars. hell, people realized that when sony announced the a900, and it's more painfully obvious now.
>> Anonymous
>>256154
LOL at the canon sheeple trying to rationalize this over on the dpreview canon forums.
>> Anonymous
>>256156
Yeah, sorry, I meant FPS. The Sony has more pickles and still takes them faster. Maybe Canon needs DUAL D!GiC PROCESSORS to win.
>> Anonymous
>>256162

Yes, I'm enjoying that too. Some of them have done complete U-turns on their previous stances of HD video being an abomination or for kiddies/they'll move to Nikon if it doesn't have feature X/some other previous complaints that are suddenly now a virtue!

Wonderful stuff, Canon. I thank you for the lulz. Please bring out the 1D Mark IV with video mode, three direct print buttons, EF-S compatible and silver body only. PLZ
>> Anonymous
>>256164

fuck that, an epic troll would be COLORED BODIES AND LENSES.

what will they say after they ridiculed the G1?

OOOH canon please do it, you'll be my hero.
>> Anonymous
>>256163

if you want high FPS get a 1D, the 5d isn't for shooting burst
>> Anonymous
>>256166

YESSSSS

A PINK 1D MODEL! AND A BABY BLUE ONE FOR THE BOYS. IT WILL BE SO BEAUTIFUL. ;____;
>> Anonymous
Auto mode, fuck yeah!
>> fence !!POey2hdozCZ
2700 bucks. anyone got that quote where i said it wouldn't be under three grand? come on, you've been holding onto it for months now.
>> heavyweather !4AIf7oXcbA
Mmm, this camera looks like the absolute tits. I could see myself shooting with this... that video is so enticing.
>> Anonymous
>>256160he was talking about FPS. of course, they can't make it faster cause it'd cannibalize the all might sacred cow that is the 1DsMKIII. funny that they still keep the price of that one high.

the 1ds shoots at 5 fps

the 1d shoots at 10 fps

get your numbers right
>> Anonymous
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hey fence, where are you?
>> Anonymous
http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/eos5dm2/02.html#01

Sample videos. Can't wait to see people using $4000 worth of camera gear to make blurry and tiny youtube videos. lulz!

CANON=WINTROLL
>> Anonymous
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hey $$$$$$19.99$$$$$$$$$

are you biting your nails now
>> Anonymous
>>256173
either way, this camera is artificially slower than both of those.

Has to be or else they couldn't charge you as much as they do for those.
>> Anonymous
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>>256169

i'm just going to leave this here...
>> Anonymous
>>256180

Life like texture ;________;
>> Anonymous
>>256179

AF is also deliberately crippled on this new camera and the body isn't so hot. Nikon has shown how good it gets in that regard. Canon are the new sad-sacks, falling behind in the race.
>> NatureGuy !se3A3TwzdY
A few more sample movies

http://www.canon-ci.co.kr/product/smov/pop01.html

http://www.canon-ci.co.kr/product/smov/pop02.html

http://www.canon-ci.co.kr/product/smov/pop03.html

http://www.canon-ci.co.kr/product/smov/pop04.html

sample videos, links found posted over on photo.net

I still have to sigh at the dslr companies for doing this.
>> Anonymous
Canon trolled everyone else, and by everyone else, I mean Sony and Nikon.

Nikon has the high speed but low resolution full frame bodies at $3,000 and $5,000. And the 720p D90.

Sony went for the ultra high resolution full frame at $3,000.

Canon just waited around until Nikon and Sony finalized their shenanigans.

Good job, Canon.
>> Anonymous
>>256180

As funny and fugly as the idea of a white pro-body is... I seem to remember Minolta actually producing one back in the film days.
>> Anonymous
>>256185AF is also deliberately crippled on this new camera and the body isn't so hot. Nikon has shown how good it gets in that regard. Canon are the new sad-sacks, falling behind in the race.

oh wow, butthurt nikon people are butthurt ;_______;

can't you be like heavyweather?
>> fence !!POey2hdozCZ
>>256175

i'm right above you, lurking in your threadz.

>>256171

looks like i was wrong! although, what's the actual argument i'm making here? that it would cost 3500? or that you won't be able to get it for $2000?
>> Anonymous
hey, even some devout canon fags over on dpreview are saying that the a900 is better than this.

Canon is the most epic troll ever.
>> NatureGuy !se3A3TwzdY
2 sample images

Slow as molasses in North Dakota when you're hunting pheasant in the morning.

http://web1.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/eos5dm2/html/sample2_e.html
http://web1.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/eos5dm2/html/sample1_e.html
>> Depressed Cheesecake !wFh1Fw9wBU
Puts the 1DS to shame.
>> Anonymous
All the sample image/video servers are being raped to death by the fan zerg rush. Wait a day or two if you want easy viewing.
>> Anonymous
about the frame rate at 3.9 FPS

somehow.. i don't think Canon went out of their way to gimp it on purpose at a weird number like 3.9 frames, they're probably pushing the limits to what the processor can do for this level of camera and 3.9 is the max it does
>> Anonymous
>>256127
I LOLd because all of the canon fags made fun of the A900s 'less than stellar' AF (which hasn't really been put to the test), and canon turns around and ganks them all by keeping the same weak AF of the first 5d in this new one.

BUT HEY, IT DOES VIDEO!
>> $19.99 !OSYhGye6hY
Anon, you were right. I'm dying inside.
>> Anonymous
>>256203

show me your delicious tears, i need them to get the release i so desperately crave.
>> Anonymous
>>256202

Wow, your butthurt is showing. I've never seen anyone complain about the A900's AF system and only about the silly NR implementation.

The 5D II and A900 are both similar in price and performance.

Nice of your butthurt that the AF and IT DOES VIDEO are the 2 only things you could think of to be jealous of.
>> Anonymous
>>256207

that's not me, the one who saved the picture

i will lol if you're really sad

but if you're really really sad, i'll cry with you ;_;
>> Anonymous
>>256203

Anon is always right. Even when it's not.
>> NatureGuy !se3A3TwzdY
I'd like to note that the sample videos I linked are a prime example of why I fucking hate them for doing this.

CAN YOU HEAR THE DEMONIC SATAN CHILD SQUEALING TO THAT UGLY SQUIRREL VIDEO

fuck you nikon, fuck you
>> Anonymous
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lol hey guys, what's going on in this thread

Camera-Specific Properties:Camera SoftwareAdobe Photoshop CS3 MacintoshImage-Specific Properties:Image OrientationTop, Left-HandHorizontal Resolution72 dpiVertical Resolution72 dpiImage Created2007:09:06 20:40:03Color Space InformationUncalibratedImage Width972Image Height648
>> Anonymous
fuck you all. just you wait, pentax is cooking up a K2D that's going to own all of your gay canonykon shit.

FUCK YEAH, PENTAX.
>> Anonymous
Nikon D90 video http://s477.photobucket.com/albums/rr134/jamesmel9/?action=view&current=DSC_0012.flv
>> Anonymous
>>256214

pentax has 0 autofocus 35mm lenses
>> NatureGuy !se3A3TwzdY
>>256215
That's hilariously bad. I hope it's an inherent flaw with making still cameras into still and motion cameras. Further that it will soon kill this silly little toy of a feature that has been tagged on to cameras.
>> Anonymous
>>256164
dpreview forums are so much fun. I'd register to troll because it'd be so easy, but i'm lazy and doesn't seem worth the extra clicks.
>> Anonymous
>>256216

hahah what?

if you're not a troll god help you. you know, cause the *ist line of SLRs were all manual focus for the hardcore, M I RITE?
>> Anonymous
Anyone look at their 2 sample pics
Their WB selection is innacurate, The focus seems to be off in the portrait. The sharpness on the landscape is good in the center but nasty in the corners (At f7.1)
Those were bad choices of sample pics me-thinks
>> $19.99 !OSYhGye6hY
>>256209
haha i'm not that sad, but i would be if it was anything like the spec rumors. But then again, what would i do without all the extra OMG MEGAPIXULZ@!!@
>> Anonymous
>>256221

you know, i think anon meant a lens that's 35mm focal length that has AF capability and not AF lenses for film...

just a gut feeling.
>> Anonymous
>>256228


Sharpness issues at the edges of digital FF sensors?? Say it ain't so! How often does it have to be pointed out that xbox hueg digital sensors have inherent flaws that need to be overcome before people should be shelling out huge amounts of money on these cameras?
>> Anonymous
>>256230but i would be if it was anything like the spec rumors

uh rumors?

what part of official announcement do you not understand?
>> Anonymous
>>256233
Sounds like someone's talking about lens issues, not sensor issues.
>> Anonymous
>>256238
The pre "Official" release rumours, are different than the Official release specs, he was referring to his expectations of the rumours.
>> Anonymous
>>256239


light falloff combined with slight cromabs can look like sharpness issues
>> NatureGuy !se3A3TwzdY
>>256241
There is some CA in the sample image.
>> Anonymous
>>256243


Yeah I'm looking at it now. Sensor technology is going to have to change before that can be fixed. Light hits the sensor at too extreme an angle around the edges when they're that large. ISO performance is great, though.
>> Anonymous
Notice the portrait subject is in the center and the outsides are all bokeh? I wonder why they would release that sample...
>> beethy !vW/UaE6zYU
Oh fuck you Canon

I'm getting the 50D instead


FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
>> Anonymous
>>256127
4/10
>> Anonymous
>>256249
Don't you get Canon pricing for everything?
Buy 2 and rig them together to take stereo images
>> Anonymous
>>256250


oops


http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/CanonEOS1DSMarkIII/page22.asp
>> Anonymous
Since Canon is such a MEGAHURTZ whore, where is the 1Ds/1D MarkIV with like 30MP sensor and Dual Digic 4 processors?
>> Anonymous
Edge softness / chromatic aberrations

As mentioned above you must be mindful of the limits of the lens when shooting with the EOS-1Ds Mark III (much more so than you would on a cropped sensor camera). These limits occur most often at extreme wide angle and/or large apertures (even with the most expensive professional 'L' lenses). On the counter side you do of course get the full wideangle capabilities of a lens like the 24-70mm f2.8 L, something you don't with a cropped camera.
>> Anonymous
>>256253
why can't they just move on to 2ds.

mark IV, really, just another incremental update?

come on canon, make the next camera so that it actually attracts more than canon fags. this new 5d is just put to shame by the d700. let's see if the 2ds (or heaven forbid, a 1ds mark IV) puts canon back at the top of the molehill.
>> beethy !vW/UaE6zYU
>>256251
Yeah I do.. about half price.
But it still isn't worth it for me... Maybe I'll wait until I see high ISO sample images and compare em with the 50D ones.
>> Anonymous
>>256256
You should get an 85mm f1.2
If just to piss heavyweather off
>> Anonymous
>Body-only prices: US: $ 2,699, EU: € 2,499, UK: £ 2,299.

The British are owned as usual
>> Anonymous
>>256259

jesus shitfucking christ, that's nearing twice what the US has to pay. what the fuck canon?
>> Jeremo !iKGMr61IHM
well fuck, buying the D700 just got that much harder...

would i sacrifice 51 AF point, weather sealing for 21MP?

the 21MP is the only selling point for me... i do need to print large shit and a digi MF setup just isn't versatile enough for me.

Oh and hello.
>> Anonymous
>>256261
Heh, Canon and Nikon seem to have an agreement not to make directly comparable bodies apart from the low-end segment.

By the way, 5D2 has some kind of weather sealing. I don't think you can wash it under a faucet like you can do with Olympus, but it should be enough for a dusty room or light drizzle.
>> Jeremo !iKGMr61IHM
>>256268

yeah, i mean my old D70s did fine even in storms so i'm sure the 5DII will be fine too.
5DII = Slightly Cheaper, more MPs meaning slightly larger prints

D700 = is the 12MP that much less than the 21MP? Awesome AF, i get to keep to my speedlights... though that's not that big a deal.

Guess i'll just have to wait for the image quality comparisons. If i can get similar prints out of the D700, i'll stay nikon.

YO BEETHY!!!, wanna help a brother out? Buy me the 5DII cheap and i'll pay you extra on top of your discount. Either that or i'll blow you, I mean i'm Asian and you're into that shit aint ya? hur hur hur.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
Do. Fucking. Want.

3.9FPS is a bit of a downer, but to be honest, I've only taken advantage of my 40D's 6FPS mode like twice (and each time, I probably would've gotten better results by waiting HCB-like for le moment decesif rather than spraying and praying). The 3fps of my old XTi was always "fast enough" for me, so this'll be fine.

I'm absolutely delighted that it's got C1/C2/C3 modes. I was worried that they would load up the mode dial with fuckin' "Portrait" and "Sports" and "Baby holding ice cream" and "Old man yelling at a bus" and other such idiot modes and have to drop the extra two Cx modes like they did on the 50D. I have no problem with the 'Creative auto' mode so long as it doesn't take away the real modes I want to use.

Two stops of real ISO above my 40D, and two *more* stops over it in in a trick mode. And ISO50, just to be saucy. FUCK YEAH.

Man, now I need to save up $2700. Plus however much it'll cost me to get an EF normal zoom to replace my 18-55. I wonder how much 40Ds are going for on eBay...
>> Anonymous
>>256146

>>to get max performance out of it?

LOL. what the fuck does MAX PERFORMANCE equate to?
>> Anonymous
>>256334
Extrem fast shutter speed. of course
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
Interesting.
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=139&modelid=17662#
ModelFeaturesAct
Canon's "features" tab on the 5DII page says
>Compatible with over 60 Canon EF/EF-S lenses and most EOS System accessories.
I'm guessing that's just some copywriter fucking things up, though.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
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Other interesting things to note:
1. Autofocus during live view
2. Autofocus during video (Take that, D90!)
3. Microphone input jack (Take that, D90!)

And they list a 1.6x crop factor on the Specifications page. I guess they didn't trust the proofreaders with pre-release news about the 5DII. SCREENSHOT LOVE.
>> Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s
I'm still geting an A900.
>> Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s
Oh and of course its cheap, its not like Canon can sell a worse camera than Sony for more.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>256389
>its not like Canon can sell a worse camera than Sony for more, so instead they're selling a better camera than Sony for less
Fix'd.
>> Anonymous
The amount of BAAAWWW and photofag trolling on the internets today is amazing.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
Hehe. Snark from dpreview:
>As is the fashion these days the EOS 5D Mark II has Live view, and of course it has both passive AF and contrast-detect AF support. But most importantly it also has face detect AF, which we're confident will be perhaps the most frequently used feature on this camera.
>> Anonymous
Why does it have a fucking PRINT button on it? RAGE.
>> Anonymous
>>256371
Where does it say they've got AF for video? And unless they've made major leaps, contrast-detection AF does and will suck it up.
>> Anonymous
>>256399
That's the Live View button, thankfully, Print is now a secondary function.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>256399
>Why does it have a fucking PRINT button on it? RAGE.
I imagine a wandering vegabond with nothing to his name but the clothes on his back, a bindle with his cards and whiskey flask, and a Canon EOS. He wanders the countryside occasionally snapping pictures. When he needs some money for more booze, he prints one of the pictures by stopping into a Best Buy or something that has display-model printers set up and using that direct print button.

Also, it doubles as the live-view-on button.

>>256400
>Where does it say they've got AF for video?
From Canon's page, under Features:
>With Live View Function on the EOS 5D Mark II, you can zoom in and navigate the composition 5x or 10x normal size. There's even a grid overlay. Live View focusing modes include Quick mode, Live mode and Face Detection Live mode. The EOS 5D Mark II's Live View Function also makes videos in Full High-Definition. Shooting is at a frame rate of 30 fps. Sound is recorded either through the camera's built-in microphone or through an external microphone connected to the camera's microphone input terminal. Playback modes are available in the camera, and all Live View AF features can be used in shooting video.

(Key points: The list of Live View AF features includes "Live Mode", and "All Live View AF features can be used in shooting video")
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>256408
>a wandering vegabond
Oh, and also: This is Heavyweather in about three years.
>> eku !8cibvLQ11s
As AC said. Do. Fucking. Want.

Now, there's just one problem. No money. :( And I just invested some 2700$ to MacBook Pro!
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>256410
So how sad is it that I honestly was considering the option of selling my car so I could afford this?
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
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>>256171
>2700 bucks. anyone got that quote where i said it wouldn't be under three grand? come on, you've been holding onto it for months now.
No, but I've got the guy saying that it would definitely be $2500 or less.

(Would've posted it earlier, but I didn't have it saved on my home machine.)
>> Anonymous
>>256409
Two problems:

1) >Canon EOS

By then he'll probably be back to Nikon.

2) Koudelka already has the vagabond-with-camera angle cornered.
>> Anonymous
>100 posts and 6 image replies omitted. Click Reply to view.

Just another SLR, people.
>> Anonymous
I have a 5D. I love it.

Not worth upgrade bucks until the current one dies though.
>> Anonymous
>>256411
1. Move back in with your parents for ~3 months.
2. Save all that rent money.
3. ????
4. PROFIT!
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>256429
My parents are in a different state than I am, which means the money I save in rent would be overshadowed by the loss of income from having to quit my job. And the car payments would remain.
>> Anonymous
>>256431

Sell your body and dignity to anyone who will pay.
>> Anonymous
>>256432
>ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>Sell your body and dignity to anyone who will pay
HAHAHAHA
>> Anonymous
>>256432
Heavyweather would be too jealous. And not just of AC's new 5D Mk. II.
>> Anonymous
>>256410
That was a fail.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>256432
>Sell your body and dignity to anyone who will pay.
But how would I get the other $2698?
>> Anonymous
>>256444

Find 2698 other people, preferably all at once. Hold up a sign saying you'll do anything for money and advertise on the internet too.
>> Anonymous
>>256444
Become a gigalo?
>> Anonymous
the 5D has always been a lower cost, smaller form factor camera for studio work

back in the day, 12.8 MP was huge and it worked out pretty damn well

the Nikon D700 and the D3 are more intended for sports with their high FPS and superior AF

that's just how Canon decided the new 5D would be, a new, low cost, smaller 1Ds

would it have been awesome to have the better AF and speed of the 1D/1Ds, sure but let's just thank Canon for an ultra high resolution digital 35mm at this price
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>256454
See, that was basically the joke that>>256432made. I countered with a joke that all anyone would be willing to pay for me was a dollar (or perhaps that I could find a hundred people, who were only willing to pay a penny, you decide).

So let's go ahead and look at exactly how your joke has failed:
1. It was a joke that had already been made
2. It was a joke that had already been made *and better*. The original guy's wording of it was more eloquent
3. We had already moved on from that joke to further jokes playing on the idea.

Do you understand? I want you to understand on exactly how many levels your joke has failed. I do this as a public service to you and anyone who might listen to you, just as one might counsel a blind, retarded boy not to take up lion taming.
>> Anonymous
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no offense but that post was over 9000 in faggotry, ac
>> Anonymous
>>256127
shit sucks. Keep your money people, this is basically the same old 5D with LOLMEGAPIXULS and a video mode.

Because those two things will instantly make you a better photographer, M I RITE?
>> Anonymous
lol @ butthurt nikon people who have nothing but to say TOO MANY MEGAPIXELS AND VIDEO
>> Anonymous
>>256478
lol @ butthurt canonfags who are loling @ butthurt nikonfags
>> Anonymous
>>256478
hahah guess again faggot, i rock a k200d.
>> ilkore !!rybbb5OcRVp
i would give my left nut for this camera... i am now looking at drug testing trials, for money.
>> Anonymous
>>256486

lol @ butthurt pentax people who have nothing but to say TOO MANY MEGAPIXELS AND VIDEO AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY UPGRADE PATH FOR THE FUTURE
>> Anonymous
>>256493
hey, i'm happy with my k200d. If i wanted to upgrade, i'd just get a k20d, LOL.

THE WORLD DOESN'T REVOLVE AROUND CANONYKON.
>> Anonymous
>>256495

enjoy your dead end

>> shit sucks. Keep your money people, this is basically the same old K10D with LOLMEGAPIXULS
>> Anonymous
Well if thats the bottom end of the full frame range, roll on the EOS 3D release news!
>> Anonymous
so i guess $1000 paper weights and rocking full frame next year pasta was right
>> Anonymous
>>256504

Because everyone has to always upgrade, amirite?
>> i - !EoFJjFcCco
Seems interesting enough, and I like how it's not so obsenely overpriced.

BUT, would have been nice if they didn't go above 16 megapixulz, I get the feeling noise will be an issue with the 5d mkII (especially at ISO 25600 lulz).
>> Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s
>>256521
Well only for those unlucky enough to have bought into the worst system that cant make lenses work on anything.
>> Anonymous
>>256534BUT, would have been nice if they didn't go above 16 megapixulz, I get the feeling noise will be an issue with the 5d mkII (especially at ISO 25600 lulz).

it's been something of an urban legend that more resolution somehow causes more noise

we started out at 2-3 MP and now we're at 10-12 and we're still fine and the 5D has a much larger sensor than APS-C

and it's based off the $8,000 1Ds III which has the same resolution and sensor size as the 5D, i'm sure it will be fine too
>> Anonymous
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>>256535

Camera-Specific Properties:Image-Specific Properties:
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>256534
>BUT, would have been nice if they didn't go above 16 megapixulz, I get the feeling noise will be an issue with the 5d mkII (especially at ISO 25600 lulz).
5DMk II: 2.4 megapixels per square centimeter
50D: 4.5 megapixels per square centimeter

Based on the high-ISO samples, the 50D has pretty good noise levels even at ISO3200 (probably a stop better than the 40D, which is 3.1mp/cm^2). The 5D2 has higher res, yes, but still larger pixels.

Technology marches on. The sensor makers' ability to deal with noise has kept pase with the sensor makers' ability to cram more pixels on a given slab of silicon.

(And before Meese can point it out: yes, I got those numbers from dpreview)
>> Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s
>>256544
D40.

Unless you're agreeing with me, but that seems unlikly.
>> Anonymous
>>256545

References
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1.dpreview.com
>> Anonymous
is it better to have smaller pixel size or larger pixel size

is it better to have higher pixel density or lower pixel density

and if the 5D has 0.71x magnification and the 1D III has 0.76x, wouldn't the viewfinder in the 5D still be bigger than the 1D III because of the sensor size, except it's a small bit less magnified
>> Anonymous
I was a bit skeptical about the video sample page, given they're little flash videos, not full 1080p samples, but fuck, they are gorgeous.

I was thinking of buying a HD video camera, but now I might as well buy one of these and use all my EF/EF-S lenses for filmaking.
>> Anonymous
>>256592

Ooh cripes, I just read the 5d doesnt support EF-S mounts, but thats cool, ive only got 1 or 2 EF-S lenses.
>> ilkore !!rybbb5OcRVp
>>256592
i would like it, just for the fact that i can take an mpe-65 and shoot video at 5:1.
>> Anonymous
>>256595

have fun manual focusing the mpe and getting enough light to get any sort of picture
>> Anonymous
I was thinking of springing for a high-end HD camera to shoot my movies with but I think I'll just use this. It shoots 1080p so it's as good as it gets.
>> Anonymous
>>256606

how exactly is it shooting 1080p at 30 fps, you need 60 fps to get true 1080p
>> Anonymous
>>256607

OH HI, I'D LIKE YOU TO MEET 24P
>> Anonymous
>>256607

1080p can be either, 30fps is closer to film.
>> Anonymous
That's what it said. Even if it's 1080i it's good enough to shoot movies with.
>> ilkore !!rybbb5OcRVp
where there is a will, there is a way!!!
>> Anonymous
>>256595
lul wat?
>> Anonymous
>>256607
lern2video. while there indeed is a 1080p60 type of HD video, it's extremely rarely, if ever, used, as 30fps is enough.
>> Anonymous
>>256606
This is like saying O HAY, MY SR12 SHOOTS STILLS SO I DON'T NEED A DSLR. If you're serious about doing video, you'll need a real camcorder.
>> Anonymous
>>256615
My Sony Playstation 3 does dual 1080p60 with it's two HDMI outputs.
>> Anonymous
>>256617

Real HD video cameras with a decent lens selection are ten times the price of this.

For the amateur filmmaker, this is really fucking awesome.
>> Anonymous
>>256618
Don't confuse video output with video recording. My video card can output something like 2560x1600 at 100 Hz, so what?
>> Anonymous
>>256624


I was actually trolling with the whole "lol I'm going to make movies with this" angle. Turns out everyone agrees. lmao
>> Anonymous
>>256624
LOL wat? Maybe twice the price, even if you're just comparing it to 5D body + kit lens, and there's a whole fuckton of features a pro needs that a DSLR lacks. It's great for budget school products or taking a clip here or there, but it in no way replaces real camcorder use.
>> heavyweather !4AIf7oXcbA
>>256624
I have a theory that goes like this: my next camera will be made not by Canon or Nikon, but RED. There's a good chance their SLR is going to rock hard, AND take great video (and rock an F-mount). If there's any company that could out-innovate Canikon , it's Jim Jannard and RED.

I'm glad everyone's getting into video though. This competition is great for we the consumers and creative producers.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>256653
Just make sure it has a direct print button before buying.
>> Anonymous
>>256653
>and rock an F-mount

RED should troll everyone and slap a PK mount on there. or 4/3.
>> Anonymous
>>256664
How about an adapt-all type mount so you can put whatever the fuck you want on it.
>> Anonymous
>>256666
that wouldn't be as hilariously awesome.
>> heavyweather !4AIf7oXcbA
>>256666
The RED cinema cameras take all kinds of mounts, F-mount is just one of many.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>256669
>take all kinds of mounts
I just want to note the incredible strain you've put on me to not make a joke about your mother here.
>> eku !8cibvLQ11s
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'sup.

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>> Anonymous
>>256723
Challenge: make a sexual joke about a mother containing the word "adapter."
>> Anonymous
>>256972
Your mother? I'd like to 'adapter' if you know what I mean.
>> Herbie !!s1ksehRmCZk
Adapter? I just met her!
>> Anonymous
Am I the only one who really wants this fucking camera?
>> Anonymous
Is dis some camera porn thread?
>> Anonymous
>>256997
yes

fap fap fap fap
>> Anonymous
are 3rd party lenses manufactured with the EF mount? or is my sigma 10-20 going to paperweight-ville next year?

>.>
>> Anonymous
>>257056
IIRC all Sigma lenses are EF-mount. So your Sigma will mount on a 5D, but expect extreme vignetting as it wasn't designed to cover full frame.

(And you shouldn't panic either way, even with all the competition, full-frame cameras aren't going to fill the entire market in the next several years at least, as there's currently no way around the cost of sensors)
>> Anonymous
>>256597
It doesn't have manual focus.
>> Anonymous
>>256972
Your mom will have to adapt to my cock! (cause its so big). Shell probably need a fucking adapter to do it, thats how big it is.
>> Anonymous
>>257142
...
>> Kilz2latex !!3htj9hFDMA4
>>256186
why is that squirrel eating a stick?
>> Anonymous
>>257146
>Why is that girl eating a dick?
>> Anonymous
>>257142

2 internets for you sir.

I fukken LOL'd
>> Anonymous
>>257076It doesn't have manual focus.

the mpe is manual focus only, hence why it has no EF name
>> Anonymous
HOLY SHIT THAT THING IS HUEG!!!
>> Anonymous
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>>257291

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>> Martin !!ve2Q1ETWmJH
>>257292
oh god i lolled, thanks anon
>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
>>257292
Though it would be rather unwieldy, the viewfinder would be fuckawesome.
>> Anonymous
>>257341
You could probably look into it with both eyes at once
>> Anonymous
omg lke a sports finder or TLR
>> Anonymous
It might seem gimick-y to most, but I could really see that video mode being useful to photojournalists. More and more newspapers are requiring photojournalists to also be videographers, and I know of a few that are very bitter about having to learn a whole new skillset and having to lug around all kinds of video equipment with them and stop shooting stills while they gather their video content. The stuff they put together is only going to be on small youtube-esque flash videos anyway, so I think the quality of the video this can produce is more than enough, and it can let photojournalists get the content they need without having to carry around too much gear/switch between gear.


Does anyone know what kind of quality the microphone is like? Is there a jack to hook up a better one?
>> Anonymous
>>257368
Read the fucking specifications. There's a shitty internal mono mic and a jack for an external stereo one.
>> Anonymous
>>257341

hahahaha if you think a 98% coverage viefinder is better than the 100% on the sonys and the nikons, LOL.

although i suppose video and more 'SHOOTING MODES' were more important than something that would actually make it a better camera.
>> Anonymous
>>257406
1) No, I'm actually very extremely anal about viewfinder coverage. Really. I could list about a dozen different cameras I've looked at and rejected because I want 100%.
2) I was referring to the size of that huge fake 5D in the shoop I quoted, not to any real camera.
3) D700 has only, IIRC, 97%. I know it doesn't have 100%. Only 100% coverage DSLRs are the pro models, the D300, and the A900. So this isn't a "LAWL NIKON IS BETTER STFU CANONFAG" situation. It wouldn't be even if I was a Canonfag. Sony is the only one who can claim a 100% coverage, rectangular-bodied, 36x24mm format DSLR. And then they shit it up with NR on the raw files.
>> Anonymous
d300 is 100% but on a small aps-c sized finder

d700 is larger but 95%

d3 is full frame and 100% coverage so it's not just sony
>> Anonymous
isn't this going to cannibalize sales of the 1Ds?
>> Anonymous
>>257419

nah, they'll just come out with a mark 4 at $8,000 again
>> Anonymous
>>257420
Canon has hinted numerous times that the 1Ds and 5D are on 3 year update cycles
>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
>>257418
>rectangular-bodied

D3's also got a bulktastic square body.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>257411
Just to fill out your list, the top-end Canons (1D and 1Ds both) have 100% coverage. This doesn't help or hurt your argument, I just have to look things up on dpreview every few minutes or Meese gets sad.

>>257419
Possibly. But generally the 1D series is bought by
a. Richfags who just want the most expensive camera, no matter what
b. People who honest-to-God need the features that differentiate the 1D series (extra speed for photojournalism work, f'rinstance).

It's going to steal a heck of a lot more potential D700 sales (along with the corresponding loss in sales of glass) than 1Ds sales, is my point.
>> Anonymous
>>257427
>Only 100% coverage DSLRs are the pro models

By which I meant the Olympus E-3, those two you mentioned, and the Nikon D3, and all their predecessors.
>> Anonymous
Though yes, we couldn't have Meese be sad.
>> Anonymous
>>256553

someone answer these please
>> Anonymous
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>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>257433
>>256553
>is it better to have smaller pixel size or larger pixel size
All other things being equal, larger pixels are better.
>is it better to have higher pixel density or lower pixel density
Pixel density is sort of a shorthand for pixel size (technically, photosite size, but that's not really important). Higher resolution sensor of the same size implies smaller photosites, which is less good. Not technically correct (you could just space the photosites wider and have lower pixel density with the same size photosite, for instance), but close enough.
>and if the 5D has 0.71x magnification and the 1D III has 0.76x, wouldn't the viewfinder in the 5D still be bigger than the 1D III because of the sensor size, except it's a small bit less magnified
My gut instinct is yes, but math makes my brain hurt, so I'm going to let someone else give you a more definitive answer on this. Or you could just google it.
>> Anonymous
I HAVE TO GET THIS FUCKING CAMERA

I am going to cry so hard if the mirror hits the back of the wide-angle M42 lenses.
>> Anonymous
ho oh shit. its nice to see us brits get fucking shafted again.

uk=$4,175.46
us= $2699.00

yeahoooo grate deal for the brits
>> Anonymous
>>257554
brits get the A900 for cheaper than the 5DII
>> eku !8cibvLQ11s
>>257554
2 499 euros here in Finland. (Body only.)