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Anonymous
Can someone please explain to me what's so great about these Canons? 90% of all pictures in /p/ were taken with a Canon.
Have we forgotten about Nikon?
>> Anonymous
2/10
>> Anonymous
Awsomeness, only explanation
>> Anonymous
they are easy to learn. they produce a good image for 35 mm. the digi's are fine too. kind of affordable if 500 - 600 hundred dollars is affordable to you. i know that i can always get exactly what i want. i learned how to do bracketed shooting, and the thing never malfunctions. never had to get an repairs done to the various ones i've oned. i do upgrade often enought though, but i basicaly love them. awesomeness is a better expression.
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they're doing it right

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>> Anonymous
Canons are shit, LOL.

D300 ftfw.
>> Anonymous
>>197591
Enjoy your high noise levels on your shitty nikon, faggot
>> Anonymous
>>197614
Canon-fag is poor and jalous
>> Anonymous
>>197628

1DMK II + 5D - WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW?
>> Anonymous
>>197635

what the fuck ? that is not amazing. it's ordinary.

you are ordinary. LOL.
>> Anonymous
>>197645

I bet you have a whole wall of them too! LOL. Jealous poor-fag.
>> okto
Canon makes better camera bodies, and when people are new to photography, they tend to think the body ("the camera") is as/more important than the lens. In many cases, I'd say people don't even consider the lens.
So, they buy a Canon, because Canons have traditionally been (and to some extent, still are) slicker looking and comfier feeling, as well as having really great menu systems on the digital bodies.

And then they transcend, realize the image is more important than the gear and that the lens is the only thing that affects the final image, and buy a Nikon.

Or they shoot sports.
>> Anonymous
>>197635
Wow, you bought some shit. You must be amazing, the cool police won't let me own money. Probably because I'm not as cool as you.
>> Anonymous
>>197744
7/10, nice try. It's too close to the "cameras by engineers, cameras by photographers" bit.
>> Anonymous
>>197744
Or they just realize that a miniscule amount of image quality is not going to affect their image in any meaningful way so they just go out and take pictures and forget about that shit.
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>>197744
lol yeah, because canon obviously has such shitty optics.

pic related.
>> Anonymous
>>197744
>So, they buy a Canon, because Canons have traditionally been (and to some extent, still are) slicker looking and comfier feeling

Funny, I usually hear that the other way around.

>the lens is the only thing that affects the final image

Not true, with film or digital. The film one chose affects it; the sensor affects it with digital.

Also, are you seriously going to say that Canon doesn't make good lenses, or that the Nikkors are better than Leica R lenses, which one can't fit onto a Nikon F mount but can put on a Canon EF mount?

Sage for pointless brand bullshit.
>> Depressed Cheesecake !wFh1Fw9wBU
Canon generally has better quality in their optics, Nikon is more "gadget" oriented, as per the new D3/D300.
>> Anonymous
>>197768Canon generally has better quality in their optics, Nikon is more "gadget" oriented, as per the new D3/D300.


LOLWUT
>> Depressed Cheesecake !wFh1Fw9wBU
>>197769
Exactly what I said, faggot. Canon pioneers most of the lens technology and high-grade glass, Nikon focuses on building more adaptable digital bodies.
>> Einta !!MWv3ICYobCM
>>197772
Perhaps. Iono.

For bodies -
APS: Nikon goes higher-end than Canon. The D300 is aimed significantly higher than the 40D.

Low range: Nikon's cheapest is cheaper than Canon's cheapest. Then again, the XTi is better than the D40.

High end: Tossup.
>> Anonymous
>>197772Exactly what I said, faggot. Canon pioneers most of the lens technology and high-grade glass,

do you even know what you're talking about

the nikkor 24-70 outclasses the canon 24-70

the nikkor 17-55 outclasses the canon 17-55

the nikkor 14-24 outclasses the canon 14mm

the absolute high end nikkor lenses are simply better than the canon offerings

>> Nikon focuses on building more adaptable digital bodies.

are you serious

canon went the right way and ditched mechanical links to the lenses from the beginning

nikon is still going lol let's try to sort our metering, manual lenses, in body motor

they've got cameras that don't meter with half their lenses and don't AF with half their lenses

that's really what you call adaptable, that's priceless, man
>> Anonymous
>>197778
>>APS: Nikon goes higher-end than Canon. The D300 is aimed significantly higher than the 40D.

Yes...which is why Canon has the 1D.
>> Anonymous
>>197788
lol forgot the 5D too.
>> Depressed Cheesecake !wFh1Fw9wBU
>>197784
What Nikon digital cameras have in-body AF motors? Are you joking? Notice I said digital bodies. Look at the D3 and D300. They are overloaded with unnecessary features, high-ISO modes, picture styles.

Nikkor 17-55 is $200 more expensive than the Canon counterpart. The 24-70 by over $400. Yes the Nikkor 14-24 is superior, but have you forgotten who introduced the USM? How about the electronic diaphragm aperture mechanism?
>> Anonymous
>>197453
RETARD got my olympus e510 and both the lenses for like 700
way better deal than the xti and its shitty kit lens.
>> Anonymous
>>197792
>What Nikon digital cameras have in-body AF motors?

Everything except the D40, D40x, and D60.

>They are overloaded with unnecessary features, high-ISO modes, picture styles.

You mean they do high ISO well? I don't know if they have any picture styles, but I'd be shocked if the D3 does.

What unnecessary features do they have that every DSLR doesn't have?

And also, everyone lol's at the Direct Print button.


Did someone hack DC's trip? I'm being serious. He's normally not a brandwhore and he usually knows what he's talking about.
>> Anonymous
>>197792What Nikon digital cameras have in-body AF motors?
All except the new low-end cameras, so precisely the ones that need them.
>> Anonymous
>>197798Did someone hack DC's trip? I'm being serious. He's normally not a brandwhore and he usually knows what he's talking about.

he usually stays his ass out of gear threads because all he knows about is his silver rebel

all the posts on the front page are him in gear threads

so yeah, nigga got hacked
>> Depressed Cheesecake !wFh1Fw9wBU
>>197801
>>197798
I'm talking about clunky, noisy non-USM motors. They aren't found in high-end Nikon bodies.

And the features are unnecessary for me. I too lol at the Direct Print button. Hence why I said Nikon bodies are better, most of the time.
>> Anonymous
>>197792
>What Nikon digital cameras have in-body AF motors?
0/10

Can't be DC.
>> Anonymous
>>197811
What? USM is a lens motor thing.
>> Anonymous
>>197811
>And the features are unnecessary for me

Autofocus, matrix metering, program, aperture priority, shutter priority, JPEG support, and a high sync speed are unnecessary for me. Hell, even a flash and a shoe are since I almost never use one. But do you find me bitching at cameras for having that feature?
>> Anonymous
>>197811I'm talking about clunky, noisy non-USM motors. They aren't found in low-end Nikon bodies.
Fix'd.
>> Depressed Cheesecake !wFh1Fw9wBU
>>197823
>>197816
>>197812
Okay, never the fuck mind.

CANON 4 LYFE.
>> $19.99 !OSYhGye6hY
>>197829
Signed.
>> Anonymous
Lol high end Nikon Cameras have GPS lolwut
>> Anonymous
>>197850

no they don't..
>> Anonymous
>>197792What Nikon digital cameras have in-body AF motors?

hahaaahaahahahah, oh wow
>> Anonymous
>>197859
Allow me to rephrase, they have GPS compatibility. You can attach a gps device to it and the camera will add GPS data to the exif. If this isn't gadget-oriented, dont know what is.
>> Anonymous
>>197863Allow me to rephrase, they have GPS compatibility

just about every camera can do that..
>> Anonymous
>>197863
I could imagine that being very useful for a photojournalist. Without doing anything extra, he can let his editor know exactly where in the middle of nowhere the desert battle he's shooting is.

After the war, his photographs with certified, embedded coordinates in the EXIF provide vital evidence to the prosecution at a war crimes trial.

Etc. Etc. Even in more mundane circumstances, PJs could use this. Landscape and wildlife photographers who schlep into the woods to shoot, too.
>> Depressed Cheesecake !wFh1Fw9wBU
>>197863
Every camera can have GPS capability.
>> Anonymous
>>197879
>Every camera can have GPS capability.

It's too bad that not every tripfag can be as big of a faggot as you are.
>> Anonymous
>>197879
Which brings back the point that Nikon bodies are no more gadgety than Canon bodies.

Goddammit this discussion is stupid. Does it matter?
>> Depressed Cheesecake !wFh1Fw9wBU
>>197884
Your jealousy is overwhelming.
>> Anonymous
>>197885Goddammit this discussion is stupid. Does it matter?
Welcome to 4chan.
>> http://beethy.deviantart.com/ for sexy AZN n00dz http://beethy.deviantart.com/ for sexy AZN n00dz
http://beethy.deviantart.com/ for sexy AZN n00dz

Canons are great for taking artistic n00dz of your girlfriend.
>> Anonymous
>>197415
>Have we forgotten about Nikon?
What is there to remember?
>> Anonymous
>>197887
>Your jealousy is overwhelming.

This post needs more vignetting, dogg.
>> Anonymous
>>197905
Rather, what is there to remember that's actually important in the present.
>> Anonymous
>>197885Which brings back the point that Nikon bodies are no more gadgety than Canon bodies.

the d60 has the option of in camera text marquees, banners and borders
>> sage sage
sage for retardedness.
>> okto
>>197746
It's not just my opinion (the stuff at the end about Nikon being perfect is :P), it's what I hear from all the photogs I talk to. Canon focuses more heavily on user friendliness and user interface advancements, while nikon focuses more heavily on making their stuff indestructible and reliable--so often fewer features.

>>197747
Maybe not for your images. And that's fine, but I care about wringing every bit of image information I can out of my film, so it's worth the markup to use the best lenses.

>>197749
I never said Canon made bad optics, just that Nikon makes better optics. The EF 24-70/2.8L is a fab lens. So is the Nikkor 28-80/2.8 AF-S.

I think it's funny how aggressively people reacted to the last bit of my first post. Seriously, people, that was obviously a joke. "Transcend to Nikon"? Who even fucking talks like that?!
I mean, yeah, I love Nikon, but I've seriously considered switching to the Canon EOS system, because they have some hot lenses and really nice bodies, but the Nikon system fits my needs better. You shoot Canon, or Sony, or Pentax or whatever cos it works for you, and that's fab.

I agree with>>197784pretty much 100%. Nikon has better lenses, but they've really gotta get their shit together on that lens mount. You can retain backwards compat. and still have fully-electronic lenses.
>> Anonymous
>>198082You can retain backwards compat. and still have fully-electronic lenses.

no you can't
>> okto
>>198086
I'd love to hear why not, but I'm not holding my breath.
>> Anonymous
Nikon is superior in all ways compared to Canon.

Everyone in here is just a jealous, poor, butthurt fucking faggot.

/thread
>> Anonymous
>>198088

because nikon says so, nyah nyah
>> Anonymous
>>198086
Yeah you can, Nikon's already done it. Leave the motor on the body mount and give motors to old lenses gradually. You can use old lenses and AFS lenses that way.
>> Anonymous
>>198094
Not really.
>> Anonymous
>>198097

except you still can't meter because nikon wants you to buy a d300 or a d3
>> Anonymous
>>198088
Because if the lens doesn't have a focus motor itself, it needs a mechanical connection for the body's autofocus motor to drive it.

Why does it matter anyway? There's nothing wrong with a mechanical connection.
>> Anonymous
>>197415Can someone please explain to me what's so great about these Canons? 90% of excellent pictures in /p/ were taken with a Canon.