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dear /p/

I'm looking into purchasing a nice new medium format camera, and I was thinking hasselblad, but looked at the prices and decided against it, and my professors (im a junior photo major) suggest a mamyia 220 (better than a holga i guess). Does /p/ have any suggestions? attached is a crappy low rez D70 image i shot
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>> Anonymous
medium format?
>> Katsu
>>29692
Yes, medium format. It can be described as a step up from 35 mm. From this, I mean, that it gets less portable but it also have an increased image quality. It's usually reserved for hardcore photographers due to price as well as a plethora of options. I know that personally, I would be scared to even handle one because medium format cameras are in general expensive and the market is fairly small, making some even more expsensive than need be.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_format
>> des
>>29702
medium format is getting cheaper to get into every month. Bodies and systems that don't easily accept digital backs are going to tank unless they're rare/collectible. It's fanfucktastic.
I'm currently looking at a bronica SQ to replace my lost folder.
>> F!Dave
Are you set on square format? 6x6 is great, but there are plenty of options outside of it. I currently shoot MF with a Mamiya 645 Pro and an 80mm f/1.9. Fantastic setup. I have also owned and loved a Mamiya C220f, Mamiya RB67 Pro-S, a couple Holgas, etc. All great cameras. I've never owned Hasselblads, Bronicas, etc, but have used them and they're all solid choices. What's your price range and what features are you looking for, primarily? If you provide some more information, I/we can probably make a more informed recommendation.
>> des
>>29713
Indeed, my sights are held on 6x6. I may be getting a retired friend's pair of ETRSes but in the meantime, I'm not very interested in 645.
>> Anonymous
>>I currently shoot MF with a Mamiya 645 Pro and an 80mm f/1.9.

oh snap. i think its f1.9. not sure

the one thing i would say to the OP is that you really need to think aout if you like the square format from the hasselblad b4 you get one.

some ppl do , some dont. its hard for print media to accommodate square format.
>> Anonymous
whats the build quality on the Bronica medium format cameras?

im in the mood to get a medium format camera of my own but ive only used mamiya.

i have to agree that you can pic cameras up cheap but i would be worried when getting from ebay or the like as you can never tell what condition they are in.
>> des
>>29801
The SQs I've played with and the ETRSes my friend has used for ~20? years were both tanks.
To my knowledge, he's only ever had maintainence done to them.
>> F!Dave
If you want square format, Hassys are great, but not the only option. Bronicas are fantastic values and the optics are excellent. If you go that route, though, stay away from the SQ-B unless you're only going to be doing studio work with strobes (limited shutter speed options on the low end). Hasselblad stuff can be had for not crazy expensive if you go used. Check www.keh.com for some good prices. Bodies in BGN condition are fine, but get optics in the best condition you can afford. KEH is a great place to get used gear in general, medium format, 35mm, or otherwise. They don't necessarily turn up a lot, but once in a while you can score deals on Rollei 6x6 SLRs. They're super-nice and use the same glass as Hasselblads (different lensmount, though). If you aren't stuck on SLR cameras and are open to the TLR option, there are piles of options ranging from Rollei ($$$) to Yaschica ($) to Mamiya ($$). The Seagull TLR you see around has a great lens in it, believe it or not.

For 645, there's the Bronica ETR, but again I am partial to the Mamiya systems. The Pentax 645 is also very nice, assuming you don't need interchangeable backs like you get on other MF systems.

6x7 is a great format - probably the perfect middle ground between 35mm and 4x5in film stock in terms of middle quality. Here you have offerings from Mamiya, Pentax, and Bronica.

Fuji makes a kickass 6x8cm camera, but it'll cost you an arm and the better part of a leg.

There are a million choices for MF, even on a relative budget. Don't skimp too much, though - you want something usable. Keep an eye out for deals on things like the Russian-made Iskra, which is a copy of a pre-war Zeiss(?) folding 6x6 rangefinder. The Moskva, another Russian folder, shoots 6x9cm and is a lot of fun.

So yeah....did I confuse you enough yet? :P
>> des
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>>29819
>>Fuji makes a kickass 6x8cm camera, but it'll cost you an arm and the better part of a leg.
In during 617.

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>> Anonymous
I have a Bronica ETR Si setup and love it to bits.

originally i got the body, a few 120 backs, 50 2.8 ,75 2.8 ,150 3.5 lenses and some other bit for a few hundred bucks.

with the ETR you can get really good metering prisms, macro lens' and extention tubes, zooms (yes, MF ZOOMs !) and you can fit a digital backs it to (if you wanna pay $20 000 USD. I rent them for a few hundred bucks if i need one)

i chose the Bronica ETR becuase it has fast lenses (try finding me a F 2.8 Mamiya RZ / RB lens) and it can do TTL flash metering.

If you take portrats you will want TTL flash metering.

also the bronny was cheap, and I knew where one was for sale. :-)

you'll love Meduum format. I got a D70 when they first came out and I hardly touch it anymore.. I always reach for my Bronny first. (with both hands if it has the 100-220 zoom.. cuase it wighs a tonne !)
>> Anonymous
One thing I'd like to add is that if you find yourself looking at TLRs for whatever reason, the Mamiya C-series is the only one that has interchangeable lenses. And you basically have a selection of 55,65,80,105,135,180 and the hard to find 250mm lenses.

I myself own a C3, and I love to use it (MF slides are a thing to behold). Close-focusing is really the biggest issue with a TLR, and you'll probably find the backwards view in the finder disorienting at first, but you get used to it.