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Fuck you Canon. Anonymous
Fuck you Canon.

What the fuck happened? Producing lenses in China to lower your cost but the savings are never reflected to me, a consumer.

I bought a Canon XSi and got it with the 18-55 IS lens since the reviews were so good about it. It was made in Japan and proudly displayed it on the front of the lens.

I open the box and what the fuck is in it? A fucking made in China 18-55 IS.

Fuck you Canon, I'm returning this to Best Buy right away.
>> Anonymous
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See the back of the lens.
>> Einta !!MWv3ICYobCM
Taiwan =/= China. Totally different manufacturing and industrial environment.

In any case, it's the quality of the product that matters. China makes a hell of a lot of stuff - some crap, some great, most somewhere in the middle. I own a bit of both extremes, and some middle product.

Is the lens good? That's all that matters.
>> $19.99 !OSYhGye6hY
Where it's made doesn't really matter...
>> Anonymous
>>162392Taiwan =/= China. Totally different manufacturing and industrial environment.

Okay fine.

It's still made by fucking chinese workers paid like, 5 cents a day.

Japan plants have better quality control.
>> Anonymous
Japan is not on the front of the Lens.

Taiwan is not in China.

Troll?
>> Anonymous
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>>162397Japan is not on the front of the Lens.

Uh, yes it is.

It was there since it was released. Now that it's in the XSi kit, it no longer has it. See my pic in OP.

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>> Anonymous
>>162397Taiwan is not in China.

See>>162395
>> Anonymous
Have you tried using the lens to make pictures rather than admire the printing on it?
>> Anonymous
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>>162411

Soft, soft, soft.

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>> Anonymous
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The XSi + kit lens pails in comparison to my 200-megapixel camera with a half lens that is 50 years old.

That is a 4x5" large-format scan with half of the lens removed (converted). It is even sharper when I have both lens elements installed.
>> Anonymous
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>>162417
>The XSi + kit lens pails in comparison to my 200-megapixel camera with a half lens that is 50 years old.
>The XSi + kit lens pails in comparison to my
>pails in comparison to my
>pails

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>> Anonymous
It doesn't matter where it was made.

Stuff like this:

>>162415

Doesn't matter, either. That's what USM is for.

Shoot a real scene with the lens. Use raw. Process it to taste. Look at it at a normal magnification. Do you like the look of the lens? Good, keep it. Don't? Get rid of it, and don't whine about where it was made, as if that matters.
>> Anonymous
>>162415

Looks fine for that lens. What were you expecting for about $80? If you're a pro who needs poster prints you're not buying a kit lens for the job. If you're only a hobbyist printing 6x4 then it doesn't matter a damn.
>> Anonymous
>>162415

That looks better than the old kit lens I have. I don't see any CA.
>> Anonymous
>>162417
No shit it does. A sensor 4 inches by five inches is always going to beat one 22.2 by 14.8 millimeters.
>> Einta !!MWv3ICYobCM
>>162432
Medium format DSLR...ooh shiny.

Let's see...assuming same pixel density as the XSI that's just over 72 megapixels. If I could afford it I'd get one.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>162415
Are those 100% crops?
>> Anonymous
>>162436

1:1, 25% into the frame.
>> Anonymous
>>162435

That's not a digital MF..
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>162437
Then you're a damn moron. Looks just as sharp as my genuine Made In Japan 18-55 IS.
>> Anonymous
>>162417
>200-megapixel camera with a half lens that is 50 years old.

What the fuck?
>> Anonymous
>>162443Then you're a damn moron. Looks just as sharp as my genuine Made In Japan 18-55 IS.

You have a bad copy then.

The one I bought was nowhere near as good as the ones people have been raving about.
>> Anonymous
>>162447What the fuck?

Medium format film, motherfucker do you speak it?
>> Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s
My kit lense is delicious and sharp. No made in japan stamp on it, so its probably Taiwanese (and also a tamron).

Canon CC shitsux lol.
>> Anonymous
>>162449

And seriously, even disregarding the good 18-55 IS copies.

How can you call that good?>>162415
>> Anonymous
>>162415

If you expected more than that for the pittance you paid then you are a moron. Kill yourself.
>> Anonymous
>>162454

So we keep hearing, but we've yet to see any pics to prove it.
>> Anonymous
As far as kit lenses go:

Pentax > Sony > Nikon > Canon > Olympus
>> Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s
>>162468
thats delicious trolling, i use a 11-18, 50, 100-300 and 1.4x tc, dont use kitlens anymore.
>> Anonymous
>>162466If you expected more than that for the pittance you paid then you are a moron. Kill yourself.

Have you even seen any japanese 18-55 IS samples?

They maybe $180 but the quality is pretty top notch. This taiwanese version is a fucking joke.
>> Anonymous
SRSLY, U GUIZ CLRLY NEED A TELEPHONE LENS.

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/pho/644528794.html
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
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>>162449
>>162455
I'm guessing this is your first digital SLR and first lens.

That's just how things look at 1:1 from a digital sensor. Here, here's a 100% crop of a shot I took with my 35mm f/2.0 yesterday. So, good prime lens, stopped down a bit. You'll see that same softness at the edges.

Pro tip: Don't fucking look at it at 100%. It's going to look like that even if you're using a 1Ds Mk III with Canon's sharpest lens.

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>> Anonymous
Fuck you digital fags.

I'm going to back to MF. Enjoy your shitty ass cameras.
>> Anonymous
>>162484
Later dipshit. We'll be here, taking, reviewing, tweaking, and posting finished shots faster than you can change out your film.
>> Anonymous
>>162390


is that...

a plastic mount?

(/shocked KM fag)
>> Anonymous
it says it on the box camera made in japan. lens made in taiwan. battery charger made in china. if you return it there gonna charge you a 15% restocking fee. plus you should have bought body only and purchased a good lens not a ok kit lens.
>> Anonymous
>>162543if you return it there gonna charge you a 15% restocking fee

don't buy in shitty ass stores?
>> Anonymous
get a d300
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>162537
Yes. What advantage would you get from a metal lens mount on a 7.1oz lens? It's not like it's likely to break under its massive weight.

>>162543
The 18-55 IS is a good lens.
>> Anonymous
its an ok lens
>> Anonymous
>>162549The 18-55 IS is a good lens.
>>162550its an ok lens

I'll admit it. I lold.
>> Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s
>>162537
KM? Konica? We have plastic mounts now :P
>> Anonymous
Get a proper lense. Stop complaining about some shitty 18-55 IS, for fucks sake.
>> Blackadder !!bSWRwu/NqzQ
For the money that lens costs and what it can do, it's good enough value for money. I'd always buy the body with the kit lens. It means there is a heavily discounted back up and if you want to sell the body afterwards you will get a much better price for it with the lens.

>>162562

Butterfly can even troll KM users better than most.
>> Nikon !!eX1E3IhZL8k
Get a Nikon instead.
>> Anonymous
>>162581
Difference between an entry level Canon and an entry level Nikon is that with the Canon you get a shit kit lens on a very good body. On Nikons, you get a shitty kit lens that is a little better than the former shit kit lens, but this time on a shitty body too.
>> Anonymous
>>162585

And you also pay more for the Nikon!
>> Anonymous
>>162581
It is perfectly logical to base your entire (very likely long term and growing) system investment on the image quality of said company's lowest tier disposable 90-dollar lens that everyone is going to replace at the first chance, right?
>> Anonymous
>>162589
I wanna pay 500 dollars more for every lens I get, because the kit lens is better with Nikon.
>> Anonymous
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oh hai
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>162589
Not to mention the fact that the "The kit lens is crap" argument only applies to the old 18-55 II, not the new 18-55 IS that ships with the XSi.
>> Anonymous
Anyone got the old and new Nikon kit lenses? How do they compare? Is it as much an improvement between the old and new Canon ones?
>> Anonymous
>>162609

yes
>> EvenSteven !!RBDL+S5h60X
>>162585

Don't forget that you can get those entry levels Canons in super cool silver
>> Anonymous
>>162611

Cool. Thanks, I'll consider picking one up then.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>162613
Silver Rebels. FUCK YEAH.
>> Anonymous
>>162615
I WANT TO BE A REBEL, I'M GOING TO BUY ONE.
>> Anonymous
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>>162609
Haven't got the 18-55mm -> 18-55mm VR, so no shots, but I'm very impressed at how sharp the 18-135mm is through its entire range. It's a shame there's quite a bit of distortion throughout the range though. This was shot wide open @ 50mm, f/5.0
>> Anonymous
>>162623
>50mm
>f/5.0

Lol at slow zoom.
>> Einta !!MWv3ICYobCM
>>162589
Ugh...replacement of this is a tad brutal though. You pretty much have to go to the 17-55IS which while a great lens costs ~10X as much.
>> Vincent !!8LCSE0Zp1mL
>>162627
You could forget the IS and get the Tamron 17-50 F2.8
I've only heard good things about that lens
>> Anonymous
Its funny how they sell it as the "digital REBEL!!!!" in the US. Its just so clear that the japs think of americans as the only ones stupid and childish enough to actually like that name. "hey man I got a fucking REBEL XTI!" "wow, thats sweet dude, what is it? like some kind of knife or something?" "nah, man. Its this really sweet ass fucking camera, man!"

Then they were analysing the market in europe and found that the best way to sell it over here would be to give the camera numbers that simply go higher in steps as the series expands, rather then adding another "cool" letter like in the US.

AMERICA, FUCK YEAH! YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME!
>> Anonymous
>>162630

Americans are fat and stupid. Americans have no culture.
>> Anonymous
>>162630
It's called the Kiss in Japan. Equally retarded. Europe is the only place with the respectable name.
>> Anonymous
>>162630

Yeah, and in Japan they called the Kiss so only women and faggots would buy it. ZOMG!
>> Anonymous
>>162630
Thing is they're right. Maybe not on a conscious level, but I bet some fuck whose mom drives him to the mall in her Mercedes while he zones out in the back seat to Bright Eyes on his iPod was influenced to ask for the "Rebel" over the "D40x" for Christmas. Same reason why "Deviant""Art" is so popular.
>> Anonymous
>>162623

That looks promising too. I would be happy with that sort of result.
>> Einta !!MWv3ICYobCM
>>162628
Yeah, it's probably a decent intermediate step.

>>162630
You have to admit it's a little weird how the model numbers go UP as newer cameras come out, but the model numbers go DOWN the better the camera class gets.

Seriously - what the hell?

I want a Kiss X2, actually. If it was the same price, I'd pick that over Rebel XSi. And then I'd use it to take pictures of girls kissing, of course!
>> Anonymous
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>>162630


lol, Europe.

Picture related.
>> Anonymous
>>162637

The ESA actually does very well financially if you check.
>> Anonymous
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>>162613Don't forget that you can get those entry levels Canons in super cool silver

hi newfag

here's a d40 in super cool silver
>> Anonymous
>>162636You have to admit it's a little weird how the model numbers go UP as newer cameras come out, but the model numbers go DOWN the better the camera class gets.

wow, you're an idiot

single digit shit is "better"

again, taken from the automobile world

formula ONE, highest discipline

then there's 2/3/3000/5000 and so on
>> Anonymous
damn im gonna sell my black d40 for the silver now. silver just says man this guy is a Rebel.
>> Anonymous
>>162627You pretty much have to go to the 17-55IS which while a great lens costs ~10X as much.

Uh... no

mix and match of nikon/canon/tamron that can replace a kit lens and do better

18-70, 17-85 is , 16-85 vr, 18-135, 17-50, 18-50

all of these are under $500

if you want to best, go 17-55 but no one is forcing you to buy that
>> Anonymous
>>162646

I'm guessing the Nikon 18-55 VR is the only thing in that price range that is as good for the Nikon mount?
>> Anonymous
you're fucking retarded if you think taiwan is china.
Taiwan is a country with a very developed and sophisticated technology industry.
They produce 90% of the world's semi conductors
are you going to return your computer too?

OP you are fucking retarded
>> Anonymous
Tamron 17-50 2.8 is fucking good.
>> Anonymous
Taiwan is to China as the USA is to Cuba.
>> Anonymous
>>162648I'm guessing the Nikon 18-55 VR is the only thing in that price range that is as good for the Nikon mount?

hmm, i don't know what you're talking

i'm just listing stuff that's NOT a 17-55 because that idiot thought it was the only viable replacement to the kit lens.
>> Anonymous
>>162649Taiwan is a country with a very developed and sophisticated technology industry.

probably lives in taiwan^

do you even have running water?
>> Anonymous
>>162626
To be honest I only use it for daytime stuff, the Sigma 18-50mm f/2.8 is on most of the time.
>> Anonymous
>>162654
This is a hell of a simplification, and it glosses over important differences between how China and Cuba have developed and how economic reality and ideology have played out in each country, but there is truth in it.
>> Anonymous
>>162660

I'm not sure why I'm responding because you're obviously a mentally challenged fail troll

Taiwan — GDP - Per Capita (PPP): $29,500 (2006 Est.)

I'm done here. Please don't reproduce for the good of mankind.
>> Anonymous
>>162684Taiwan — GDP - Per Capita (PPP): $29,500 (2006 Est.)

rofl, and that's supposed to be good? compared to africa maybe

oh and, obvious you're from taiwan and just butthurt you live there
>> Anonymous
>>162720

That's better than some Western countries.
>> Anonymous
>>It's called the Kiss in Japan. Equally retarded. Europe is the only place with the respectable name.
You forgot "and the rest of the world."
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>162720
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita
Lower end of the first-world countries, but definitely not a third-world country.
>> Anonymous
>>162735

like what, fucking south america countries

nothing but north america matters
>> Anonymous
>>162739
gb2/Pretty much anything more broadminded than a High School American History/Civics course.
>> Anonymous
>>162654
>>162660
>>162720
>>162739
0/10.
>> Anonymous
>>162739

It's still better than Mexico.

OH SNAP, YOU JUST GOT OWNED.
>> Anonymous
>>162739
Also, even in North America, it pwns everyone except the US and Canada.
>> Anonymous
yeah well

breaking news, only the US and Canada count in north america

go back to your countries with no running water
>> Anonymous
>>162766

Enjoy your Hispanic takeover. Soon you'll have to learn Spanish just to survive.
>> Anonymous
>>162766

Counts for what?

Newsflash: most world-changing shit happens on the periphery. The US? Shitty cranky colony in 1776. World War I? Started in Sarajevo when it was even more of a shithole than it is now when an upitty business analyst shot an archduke. World War II? Started over frickin' Poland. Where was the Cold War played out? In Indochina, Afghanistan, Latin America, Korea. Where is the world coming unhinged today? The Middle East, Somalia, Kashmir. Why? Because imperialists fucked these far-flung reaches of their empire up long ago.
>> Anonymous
>>162773

spic fag^
>> Anonymous
>>162739

LOLLLLLLLLLLL
I knew when I put that little blurb up, you were going to selfown yourself

Do yourself a favor and stop posting, you're just embarrassing yourself now
>> Anonymous
>>162812

go back to china, taiwanfag
>> Anonymous
>>162804

Enjoy it while it lasts, faggot. It won't be long before the pledge of allegiance is said in Spanish only. LOL

That is if Mexico doesn't reclaim what the USA stole in its wars of aggression first.
>> Anonymous
>>162744
you meant 10/10 right
>> Einta !!MWv3ICYobCM
>>162816
Uh....I'm not exactly a pro-Mexico, anti-America guy, but...America could own Mexico. Completely. Instantly. Without any non-economic problems.

Mexico ain't reclaiming shit. Now, hispanic immigration might shift the hell out of demographics, but it will never go back to Mexico.
>> Anonymous
it's a kit lens.

suck it up.
>> Anonymous
>>162837
Possible scenario:

1. American Southwest becomes massively saturated with Latin American immigrants and their culturally contiguous descendents. Already happening.
2. Culture becomes primarily Latin. "Americans" move out of the area. This would be caused not just by racism or culture preference, but also for sheer economic reasons: the areas of the country seeing the most Latin American immigration had particuarly hot housing markets, with inflated home values and especially shabby credit. That's all going to shit.
3. The areas are economically devastated by the general economic downturn (and America is heading for something longer than just another recession here, that's almost certain), the flight of once-wealthy Americans to other parts of the country, and the general overabundance of cheap labor, and hence lack of purchasing power.
4. Like most people in peculiar and poor economic circumstances, the people in this Latin American enclave become radicalized. This is seen in the French Revolution, many of the revolutions of 1848, the rise of the Fascist movements in Europe in the 1920s-30s, and so on. There's plenty more examples.
>> Anonymous
>>162852

4. Like in those three instances, the radicalism takes on a nationalistic character. And hey- the manifesto already exists, since 1968. Wikipedia "Plan Espiritual de Aztlán," a Chicano seperatist document.
5. Riots, revolution, etc. Attempted independence thing.
6. Three possibilities: the rest of the United States is too weak and plagued with other domestic problems to bother with this economically depressed enclave. It lets it go, helped by a decline in national identity and vaugely pseudo-Leftist beliefs that support nationalism for poor people but not rich people, and racist beliefs about not wanting spics part of 'Murrica, and getting them off the welfare rolls, etc.

The second scenario is a war between America and the seperatist regions, sparked on by old-fashioned "let's keep the union together for nothing but stupid pride" spirit coupled with a poverty-induced nationalism (like, an exagerrated version of the whole "Bitter" thing Obama is getting criticized for). America could win, but the question is if it would be worth it. France lost Algeria after a long and costly struggle, just through sheer attrition on the part of the seperatists. And the United States is not going to be in the best of shape when all this happens, and likely will be facing other domestic disturbances.
>> Anonymous
>>162853


So there you have it: throw poverty, stupid nationalism, preexisting ideologies primed to take advantage of that, a sort of regional "white flight," and domestic problems, liberal guilt, and racism or domestic problems leading to a similar resurgent nationalism in the rest of America in a blender.

Just one possible way the Southwest could revert to Mexico or its own independent state. Not saying it's going to happen, but it's possible. Instability is usually a more reliable bet than stability, over the long term, and the 20th century was a century of political centralization, both to extremes (totalitarianism) and otherwise. Thus, the 21st century will be a century of political fragmentation. No exceptions for the United States, which, keep in mind, is just over 200 years old. A firecracker blip on the historical record.
>> Anonymous
>>162854
Or here, TL;DR: America is going to shit, it's possible the primarily Hispanic parts of the country will try to jump ship, and America might just let them, or not be able to stop them without fucking itself over bad.
>> Serenar !m827jEgWi.
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Fuck you Carl Zeiss.

What the fuck happened? Producing lenses in Japan to lower your cost but the savings are never reflected to me, a consumer.

I bought a Contax Aria and got it with the Vario-Sonnar 28-70 lens since the reviews were so good about it. It was made by Zeiss and proudly displayed it on the front of the lens.

I open the box and what the fuck is in it? A fucking made in Japan Vario-Sonnar 28-70.

(not a troll, people actually think this)
>> fence !!POey2hdozCZ
hahahahahahahahahah what the fuck? who the fuck let this guy in?

do people seriously think that mexico is just going to "take back" the southwest? i mean, do they wake up and believe it, deep down in their heart, with the same conviction that they believe the sky is blue and the earth is round?
>> Anonymous
>>162637
You are talking about a space program that in the last 2 decades has lost two of its shuttles due to stupidity, put a busted telescope into space and had to repair it, and built a Skylab on steroids with the help of other countries that almost had to be evacuated countless times?

The only time NASA was good was when we were competing with the soviets...
>> des
>>162852
>>162853
>>162854
>>162857
fuck off back to /newnew/
>> Anonymous
>>162979

Try living there and you'll see it's true. The Hispanic people are growing while the whites are shrinking. Hispanics are more fertile and the white man's shrivelled cock can't make enough babies to replace the natural death rate.

PROTIP for your future success: Learn Spanish. Teach it to your family. You will need it.
>> fence !!POey2hdozCZ
>>163030

i live in new mexico, shithead. my high school was 88% hispanic.

i can tell you firsthand that you're 1) an idiot 2) a racist 3) paranoid 4) making baseless assumptions. it's been my extensive, extensive experience that by the second or third generation, a "mexican" is completely assimilated and has nothing but disdain for native mexicans.
>> EvenSteven !!RBDL+S5h60X
>>163030

Spoiler; The baby boomers are dying
>> Anonymous
>>163030

i post in /p/, shithead. this board is 88% trolls.

i can tell you firsthand that you're 1) an idiot 2) pompous 3) paranoid 4) making baseless assumptions. it's been my extensive, extensive experience that by the second or third post, a "tripfag" is completely suckered in and will do nothing but selfpwn themselves in front of everyone.


I played you like a cheap flute, chucklefuck. You are a pathetic joke of a human being and not nearly so clever as you like to tell yourself you are. I can see I'll enjoy trolling you in the future.
>> Anonymous
I'm the original poster of the speculative scenario.

I honestly don't care who controls what pieces of land and don't have anything against Mexicans. If you noticed, I figured the non-Hispanic-Americans reacting in just as stupid and nationalistic a way to events. Those totally assimilated, third or fourth generation ones? Well, they'll totally assimilated, and have about as much to do with Mexico or Hispanic culture as I do with Ireland and Irish culture. Part of the group that would leave.

It was a speculative scenario: if the Southwest were to somehow leave the United States, this is one possible way it would happen. I also noted I wasn't saying it was going to.

>>163030
>>163374
is a troll and an idiot, and not me. I don't think "Hispanics are taking over" or any of that bullshit, and I wouldn't care if the US becomes 98% Hispanic. Populations shift, cultures change over time, it's all fine. Humanity marches on.