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slim !yE5LOsLjxQ
how do i make the lines clearer? need the silhouette to stick out more.
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>> slim !yE5LOsLjxQ
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desaturating girl: cheesy gimmick or classy eye redirection tool?

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>> slim !yE5LOsLjxQ
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better 1?

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>> slim !yE5LOsLjxQ
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better 2?

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>> slim !yE5LOsLjxQ
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or better 3? and why?

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>> Anonymous
Out of the series of three, all of which are bad, 2 is the least-bad.

Partial desaturation is not only cheesy, but it works best when you only desaturate a small part of the picture.

nothing special here.
>> Anonymous
3 because of the colors and because she doesn't have the goofy fucking glasses on, 2 because it's the only one that isn't blurry.
>> Anonymous
>>79254
1. Are you the same Slim that used to post on here?

2.>>79255

Usually cheesy. More importantly, what ISO did you shoot this at? I'm usually firmly in the "noise doesn't matter all that much" camp, but wow. I honestly don't think I've seen a shot with more objectionable noise than that.

3.>>79254

A little bit of fill flash *might* help. I'm no flash guru, so I'm not sure. Ask pskaught or Heavyweather.

A slightly higher exposure, dressing your model for her colors to contrast more with the ground, shooting at a lower ISO, and having less depth of field would definitely help. Why were you shooting at f/5? The S3 opens up to f/2.8. That's almost two stops of light you're wasting for no reason- the smaller aperture hurt your picture and made you bump the ISO up to a bad level for your camera.

Go for a slower shutter speed to get a slower ISO with your camera. The thing about small-sensor cameras is that the ISO should only be taken off 100 (80 and 100 on the S3) if your shutter speed (on a stabilized camera like the S3) is getting below 1/10th or so handheld, only off 200 to 400 if you really need it, only to 800 if it's the only possible way to get the shot. Like I said, I don't find noise to be a huge problem, but when it makes it hard to tell where the edges of things are in an image (one of your problems here) it's a problem.

The advantage is that the S3 has IS and no mirror vibration. Learn to hold the camera right, and in most shooting situations, you'll have no problem with the ISO or noise. David Alan Harvey shot his entire Cuba book on ISO 50 film. Granted, he had lenses two stops faster than yours, but you have IS and ISO 80 and 100. ISO 100 is one stop; IS is at least one more.
>> Anonymous
>>79446
if ever you see a mistake in my camera settings, it's because my model was very impatient. if i take a second to get the settings right, she crabs at me something awful. i did want to set it to manual for every shot, frame it right, and set the exposure myself, but she just wanted hundreds of pictures. later when we were reviewing them, i was telling her 'this one is good because of how well you fill the frame and how the lighting on your face makes your skin tone match the foliage' and she would make me delete it because her arms looked fat, and then tell me she loved a pic with the top of her head cut off because she was making a 'cute face'. impossible to work with.

anyway yes, same slim. i've been busy as fuckall and i've barely picked up the camera since you last saw me. i still have to bother /p/ with beginner's crap.
>> Anonymous
>>79459
solution: tell her to shut the hell up and let you take the pictures.
>> Anonymous
>>79461
nah. tried it. she gets upset and goes inside. believe it or not, she's way less spoiled now than when she first moved in with me. she used to tell me i didnt love her if i didnt make the coffee so she could lay down. i'm just going to have to learn to change settings with expert speed and precision.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>79464
Shame it's an image board and not some sort of audio board. I can't post a whip-cracking noise. ;)

This is the sort of situation where an SLR really pays off. Much quicker to change settings, and much quicker to take pictures. Is this the same girlfriend you had before who wouldn't let you take pictures of her?
>> Anonymous
>>79465
same one. good memory.

damn i hate to admit that i got whipped by a girl like this. i always thought that it would take some wily genius of a woman to bring me to my knees. turns out it's not about the other person at all, but about how attached you get to them.
>> Anonymous
>if ever you see a mistake in my camera settings, it's because my model was very impatient

It's not a point of "mistake" or not in the way you mean.>>79255was on auto, but>>79254(with the bad noise and the f/5) was on manual. You set the aperture. And like I said, I had an S3. I know it's just two or three presses of a button to open all the way up from f/5.

>and she would make me delete it
There's two ways around this. One is to say, "no, I'm the photographer and no one will ever see this but me and a bunch of semi-to-full-anonymous nerds on an image board."

The other is to simply show her backup copies and not your main storage of it. And go get that file out of the recycle bin.

>because her arms looked fat
Compliment her.

>impossible to work with.
Tell that to a professional photographer and watch him lol heartily.

>i'm just going to have to learn to change settings with expert speed and precision.
Do it anyway. Seriously. If you want good shots of anything but landscapes, you need to know your camera like you know your lover's body. Know "x presses down on the aperture button from y gets me z." Know what focal lengths you get at different steps on your zoom. (If I remember correctly, the S3IS has a stepped zoom, right?) Not all of them; just find a few you like, figure out where they are, and use those.

And welcome back to /p/.

>Much quicker to change settings
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you have to use a menu to change the ISO and aperture on the Digital Rebel? The S3IS has seperate for each of those and shutter speed. No slower to change than an SLR.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>79478
>Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you have to use a menu to change the ISO and aperture on the Digital Rebel?
There's a control wheel by the shutter to change aperture in Av mode (in M, you hold down the ev-comp button and rotate the dial). For ISO, you hit up on the arrow-button panel and you're in the ISO menu.

At least on the XTi. Dunno about the XT or original Digital Rebel.
>> Anonymous
>>79481
Sounds reasonable enough, though the S3's controls are still be simpler than that. (Little video-game cross controller like thing right where your thumb goes when holding the camera; up and down controls one, left and right controls the other, I forget which. ISO is set with a button. To be honest, it was the best way of adjusting shutter speed and aperture (short of a genuine aperture ring on the lens, because I'm a retrofag like that) on any camera I've shot with.)

Also, I finally understand why you would shoot in Av. Having to hold down something to change the aperture... ick.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>79488
Yep. One of the reasons I'm planning to save up for a 40d at some point. Using manual mode (for syncing with off-camera flashes) has made me reeeeally want that second control dial.