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Nikon D40X B/W??? Anonymous
Hey /p/ I have a qiestion.

I just bought a Nikon D40x and it came in the mail the other day. I was messing around with it and looking through the manual and I didn't see anything about a Black and White setting. I don't see how a $600.00 Digital SLR camera can't have a B&W setting. If anyone could tell me how to access a B&W setting on a Nikon D40x I would appreciate it!
>> Anonymous
Actually, the more expensive the camera, the less likely it is to have a B&W mode. Pros generally capture in color mode (if not RAW) and then convert to black and white in post.

That being said, there's probably a B&W setting in there somewhere. But I'm a Canonfag, so I don't know where it is on a Nikon.
>> Anonymous
Photoshop.

Desaturate.

Done.
>> Anonymous
do NOT shoot in BW mode in a DSLR. You lose the color information for the shot, which you might as well retain for editing purposes later, or if you decide the photo looked better in color. You would be much better off to shoot in RAW mode (or even JPEG) and convert to black and white in post processing.

Shooting B&W in a DSLR is not like shooting black and white film... there are no advantages to it, just disadvantages.
>> Anonymous
OP: I shoot in B&W sometimes on my regular Canon digi cam and I would just like to know if I have the option on my Nikon SLR
>> Anonymous
If you just want a camera that does all the processing and work for you, you shouldn't bother with an SLR. You're better off without gimmicky extras.
>> Anonymous
>>83348

desaturating produces fucking hideous quality. there are lots of better ways, even if you don't have CS3 with it's excellent b&w tool
>> Anonymous
the color filters are on the chip, no true B&W is possible, thats why digital B&W looks like B&W printed from a color negative if you dont use a coror filter and shoot with binned pixels
>> noko
I have a Nikon D40.
If it's the same go under Menu -> Shooting Menu -> Optimize Image -> Black & White ..
>> Anonymous
>>83359

binning is such a fun new catchphrase for amateurs to use. it's pleasing just to say it, plus it makes you sound expart if you use every possible conjugation.

binning. binned. bin.

i binned the shit outta those pixels! 4x4 bin!
>> Anonymous
fail, read the manual and come back later.
>> noko
>>83366
but what does it MEAN?!
>> Anonymous
In this particular case combining multiple monochromatic sensors to get the effect of one panchromatic sensor is quite apropos. Binning has been the term for this action since the early 1990s when i started working with CCDs. If newfags are begining to catch on to some of the terminology and capabilities of digital photography, then good. Its about fucking time..
>> Anonymous
OP: Noko, thanks for the help but on my D40X I don't have those menu options/categories :(
>> Anonymous
>>83404
Have you tried going to CSM/Setup menu -> Full?
>> Anonymous
>>83361
do this. i have the d40X and its the same way
>> Anonymous
just go to playback, press OK, then you should see the Monochrome option, then choose B&W
>> Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s
go to shop -> get red filter -> take photos then convert red channel to greyscale.

instant awesome b&w photos.
>> Anonymous
>>83496

No.
>> Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s
>>83515
what no?
>> Anonymous
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>> noko
>>83496
Why would this be any better than shooting B&W or using the B&W option in CS3?
>> Anonymous
>>83581
More expensive
>> Anonymous
>>83605
more retarded
>> Anonymous
>>83655
also a 10mp sensor instantly becomes 2.5mp because all blue and green dots are fucked.
>> Anonymous
>>83348
EPIC FAIL
only n00bs use desaturate
use channel mixer or a layer mask effect
>> Anonymous
>>83666
and thats why color CCDs suck of B&W.
nobody every printed B&W from color negatives expecting good results, but for some reason the "i have an slr, i'm now pro" crowd expects to be f/64 honorary members for converting to greyscale.
>> Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s
Sorry red filters are for the awesomeness that is B&W film, so just go get a cheap 35mm in your lense set and put awesome b&w and redfilter in that. Then you can have pro b&w photography (which incidentally is what im doing)
>> Anonymous
>>83701

"sorry it's for film"?

If it is for film, then why did you say to use it with a digital? You talk a lot of shit.
>> Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s
>>83706
cause i forgot they dont work with colour sensors.
>> Anonymous
>>83345

If you have PS or equivalent then use something like the channel mixer. You can also use the "lab conversion" way too. Whatever gets you the results you are happy with.
>> noko
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am i doin it rite?
>> Anonymous
>>83729

That looks quite nice. I like it. Did you use the channel mixer then? The general opinion is that it tends to give you the most control and the best results.
>> Anonymous
This wasn't linked already?

http://www.prime-junta.net/pont/How_to/n_Digital_BW/a_Digital_Black_and_White.html
>> noko
>>83735
Yeah, channel mixer :D I usually use Black & White in CS3 so had to check it out
>> Anonymous
Oh HAY GEIS YOU KNOW HOW I SHOOT IN B&W WITH MY FILM CAMERA? IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE
>> Anonymous
>>83746

shoot dirt cheap/free expired color neg, scan & convert in PS
>> Anonymous
>>83753

Yeah? I'd love to see some examples of that. Pretty clever and thrifty if it works.
>> Anonymous
>>83710

Sage because you made a mistake? FAIL.
>> Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s
>>83979
yes, im saging MYSELF because im hardcore like that.

here have some more delicious SAGE
>> Anonymous
>>83982

I like sage with onions. :)
>> Oz
Im partial to Parsley, Sage, Rosemary, and Thyme.

Interestingly enough, just bought one of these off a guy in Washington state. He sold it for $600 claiming he bought for eight. Think he may have bought the upper end model that comes with the 18-55 Zoom lens. Hes sending me various filters too, along with straps for it.