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I want a TLR, is there such thing as a decent low level brand?
>> thefamilyman
look for a second hand american made one from about the 50's to 60's. they are cheap and quite good too. Namely go for a Graflex with a Synchomatic shutter, i got one of these for cheap and its great. also an old Lomo (one before lomography took it over).
Other brands like roli and high quality japanese ones are much nicer, but cost an arm and a leg still.
>> ac
I've been toying with the idea of picking up a Lubitel 166.

But then, I'm a crazy nutbar.
>> thefamilyman
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>>37234
i've got one.
they are actually really good too, but tighten up all the focusing mechanism, mine started to slip, a real pain to recalibrate
>> thefamilyman
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this is my Graflex, a really wonderful TLR especially for the price you can pick one of these up for now.

they are a lot of fun and a cheap way to get into 6x6 medium format, but sometimes they can be a real pain.

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>> Anonymous
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I have mamyia c330 and its brilliant and has the advantage of interchangeable lenses if you can find them. Operation is great and the lenses are sharp!
>> Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s
can someone explain how these crazy devices work?
>> Anonymous
>>37279
It's a TLR, or Twin-Lens Reflex.

You have two lenses, the focusing lens and the objective lens. The top lens is connected to the viewfinder (usually one you look down on from above). The bottom lens leads to the film.

The two lenses are linked to gether and the same focal length. So when you turn one lens, the other turns as well. This is how you focus the camera--focusing the lens you look through also focuses the lens you take the picture through.

The TLR system is pretty much only used for medium format cameras. It's way more difficult to make an SLR that uses medium-format film (because you need a big honkin' mirror and all of the structural and vibrational things that flipping that mirror out of the way implies. Which isn't to say they don't exist, just that they're a bitch to make). And larger formats generally just have you swap the film for a focusing screen, since the film comes in single sheets.

Understand?
>> Anonymous
>>37280

yup

I remembered there was a remodeled digital version of the TLR, anyone remember which brand of that digital TLR was manufactured under?
>> ac
>>37337
Heh. This is amusing:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=364598&am
p;is=REG

Looks to be the closest thing to a digital TLR that I could find. Which isn't surprising, since it's a really weird camera style.
>> Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s
>>37280
cheers, for some bizzare reason my braind had put triple lense reflex as tlr isntead of twin.. im weird.
>> ac
>>37382
I can see that. One lens takes the picture, one lens focuses, and the last lens looks good on a product sheet vs. those lame Canons and Nikons which only have *one* lens.
>> Anonymous
>>37383
What I want is a camera that works something like a CD changer. I wont go into details, but basically you just screw in all the lenses you have and the camera automatically selects the best one for your requested settings. I will call it MLR ( Multi-Lens Reflex ).
>> ac
>>37384
It's called "A camera with a zoom lens"
>> Anonymous
>>37385
Can your "camera with a zoom lens" go from F/1.8 to fisheye to 300mm ?
>> Anonymous
>>37384
microscopes usually work this way. the objectives are mounted to a disc that you can rotate to switch between lenses.

I've also seen an old television camera with similar mechanism