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Anonymous
Hey /p/

I'm looking for a nice Nikon film camera and lens
system for street photography. Something below $400.
Any help?
>> Anonymous
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the D40 is around that price
>> Anonymous
>>225447

Thanks, but filmfag here.
>> Anonymous
Whoa whoa man! $400 is a ton for a film camera these days. Every douche and his soccer mom wife are picking up digital cameras these days. I would suggest a ranger finder for street photography. The shutters on those are super quiet so nobody will notice you when you take a photo of them. :)
>> Anonymous
Alright then suggestions on a nice range finder??
>> sage !i/euDJmWr2
>>225457
for below $400, get an older Bessa R or a Bessa T and a ltm lens of your choice/price range.
>> Anonymous
Damn the Bessa R is a beautiful camera.
Do want, will get.
>> Anonymous
>>225465
This is a good option. Another one is trying to scoop up a used M3/2/4 for lower than it should go on eBay. Look into the Bessas and those Ms and make the call on which you would rather have.

If you're looking for a Nikon SLR, get the F2 or F3, depending on which one suits you better.
>> Anonymous
>>225476

+1

Or you might be able to snag a decent SLR AND a decent rangefinder for that price.

You can find a Nikon FM/FM2/FE/FE2, Depending on what you want. FMs are fully manual and FEs are aperture priority, but can go manual too. It's important to note that the FEs (at least the FE2) only have one mechanical shutter speed backup in case you run out of battery.

As for a rangefinder/lens in the $200 range, I don't know.

Or you can always go with whatever Nikon F series floats your boat (as in F, F2, F3, etc.).
>> Anonymous
I LOOOOOOOOVE my Nikon F3
>> Anonymous
/p/ might hate me, but I have a Lomo LC-A camera, and that got me into street photography. I don't fully understand the world of f stops and shutter speeds. That's why I'm taking the initiative to mature my photography into something more respected and refined. And help is much much appreciated.
>> thefamilyman !!rTVzm2BgTOa
look at a FM2 (my FA is based off one and i love mine)
or even a F3 or F4
>> Anonymous
>>225500

Are you OP?
Or is this a thread hijack?

Either way, here's a quick lesson (from a relative beginner, so if anyone sees any mistakes, call me a nigger and correct me.)

If you don't know that much about shutter speeds or F stops, you probably don't know much about lenses and focal lengths and what designates a fast lens. So here's a "standard" lens.

50/1.8 (50 being 50mm focal length, 1.8 being f/1.8)

That means that the focal length of the lens is 50mm. The higher the focal length, the more zoom. Low focal lengths are wide angles. The f stop there designates how wide open the lens can be. The f stands for focal length, so the maximum width you can open the lens is whatever 50 divided by 1.8 is.

F stops. Alright, as a beginner, the most important thing to know is that the lower the f value, the shallower depth of field you get, allowing you to have one subject in focus with the others out. Also lower f values let in more light (since they're open wider) and so they require a faster shutter speed than a lens stopped down (meaning "closed," i suppose) to f/22.

Shutter speed is just that, the speed of the shutter. Lower f values need faster speeds to compensate for the large amount of light, and vice versa.

Hope this was at least a bit helpful.
>> Anonymous
>>225508

Oh, and just as an addition, the term "fast lens" refers to a lens that can open up to a real wide f value. f/1.8 is good because it's moderately fast and 50/1.8 (not to be a condescending asshole, but 50 as in 50mm and 1.8 as in f/1.8) lenses are usually relatively cheap.
>> Anonymous
>>225508

Yeah still OP.
And yeah you did manage to explain everything
pretty well. Better than I could understand on wikipedia.
>> Anonymous !ukTrpcIZ5Y
>>225447
I bought a D40 18 months ago. First DSLR.

Good camera to learn with, but fucking mistake otherwise. Am in the market for a D300 now. So many things about the D40 are hindering me.

Sage because I have nothing of benefit to offer to the OP, sorry
>> Anonymous
what's the big difference between a FG and a FM
>> Anonymous
>>225618

FG was a consumer model, FM was an amateur/semipro camera.

FM is a little better, faster max shutter speed. Probably a fuckton more durable.
>> Anonymous
>>225647
>>225618

I own both the fm and the fg, and I'd suggest that you buy the fm over the fg. The fg is made mostly out of plastic, and it also has an auto exposure setting (which you wont want if you're learning photography). It also has an electronic shutter, so if you run out of batteries then you cant use the camera. The fm has DOF preview button, and it's way more durable. Its fully manual, and it just feels better to hold in your hands. I cant describe it, but it just feels so hearty that I don't have to worry about breaking it accidentally.


tl;dr: buy the FM and some lenses
>> Anonymous
I have the EM... It has aperture priority mode and a button that automatically drops the shutter speed by a bit for some reason. It's not great : /
>> Anonymous
>>225441
Buy new 50mm f/1.8 lens and then look for any old nikon slr.

Personally Id save a little and go for the F5 or F3.

F100, F80 and F90X are fine too. (N80, N90S for americans)

But for street photography you should choose a rangefinder because of the stealth factor they offer.
>> Anonymous
>>225706
The "stealth factor" you're talking about is now null and void in this age. I think most people agree it's better to be open about taking photos, rather than looking like a creepy stalker.
>> Anonymous
>>225710
If they don't notice you you won't look anything at all. Cartier-Bresson wasn't hiding in the bushes with a supertele when he shot.

It's a matter of technique, and the right equipment (read: something small and without immense mirror clap) helps that technique do its thing.
>> Anonymous
>>225710
Big slr camera tends to scare people and make them look unnatural the minute they see it. Also loud mirror sound makes everyone turn at you. Its not about looking creepy stalker, its about taking good photographs.

People tend to be more relaxed around small cameras such as rangefinder because big slrs are associated with professionals, journalists etc. Small cameras are associated with tourists and amateurs.

That being said the stealth factor is now more important than ever.
>> Anonymous
>>225706
> new 50mm f/1.8 lens

Not if he's getting a MF camera body. Get an old AI or AI-S one and enjoy old build quality and better focusing rings, etc.

Or since they're cheaper used, maybe a 50/1.4, to need and taste.
>> Anonymous
OP here,

Yeah I was looking into the Nikon FM2,
and I think I'm ganna go with that,
once I can get enough money, or maybe when christmas rolls around again.What's a good street photography lens? Yeah I'm a newfag. I also want a good wide angle lens for the FM2 also. Any for a reletive newfag?
>> Anonymous
>>225795
id go with 35mm or 50mm. Pick the one focal length that you like more.
>> thefamilyman !!rTVzm2BgTOa
>>225795
steet lens, i'll say 35mm
wide, look for a 20 or 28mm
plus, get Ai or Ai-s, dont bother buying new AF lenses for it.
(does the FM2 take advantage of Ai-s lenses like my FA does? i'm sure it would. If not, buy cheaper Ai)
>> Anonymous
lmfao!
I love this surge or retards getting into "street photography".
Street photography does not exist. Sure, go take a picture of people down town and piss some people off. I'd hardly call that a style of photography.
>> Anonymous
can you mount new AF lenses to AI/AI-s era cameras?

i know you lose AF but at least i can find those easily
>> Anonymous
>>225521
You sire are a retard. You bought a D40 as your first dSLR a few months ago and now you need a fucking d300?
Good luck with that my friend. Stop getting your parents to buy you new shit and master what you have.
>> thefamilyman !!rTVzm2BgTOa
>>225901
yes, you can mount any F mount onto any Nikon body.
meaning AF onto MF (ai/ai-s era) bodies and ai/ai-s onto AF bodies
>> sage !i/euDJmWr2
>>225899
5/10
>> Anonymous
>>225907
Even though you can mount them, type G lenses are useless on AI cameras since they don't have an aperture control ring.