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Sicko !L3HRY/miC.
So I've seen a camera like this in an old junk shop going pretty cheap and I'm considering buying it when I get the money.

The little note next to it said "Zeiss Ikon 12mm film camera" so I've kind of guessed it to be a Nettar (the folding bit is sideways) from pictures.

Are there any common problems/things I should look out for before buying it?
>> Anonymous
Why waste money on a film camera? Just wait until they release a digital model.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
Make sure the shutter fires at all speeds and isn't stuck.

If possible, try to check if the bellows are still light-tight. I don't actually know of a good way to do this.

Make sure the lens isn't moldy.
>> Anonymous
FAIL!
>> Anonymous
>>172202If possible, try to check if the bellows are still light-tight. I don't actually know of a good way to do this.
Close the shutter, open the back, put your eye up against the opening, and shine a bright light around the bellows to look for leaks. The most common spots will be the corners and any rub points.
>> Serenar !m827jEgWi.
It's either a Nettar or an Ikonta (Super Ikonta if you're lucky). Probably shoots 120 roll film, hence the mislabeling.

Check for holes in the bellows with a flashlight. Also make sure all the moving parts move - does it open and close easily? Does the latch work? Does it look like it could successfully advance film (the folder I got was missing the bit that sticks into the roll, so it was useless)? Does the shutter button work, or do you have to poke the side of the shutter? etc etc
>> Sicko !L3HRY/miC.
>>172202
>>172218
>>172238

Cheers guys.
>> Sicko !L3HRY/miC.
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Checked it all out, seemed good (it's an Ikonta, not a Nettar) so I bought it.

The guy warned me that "the only problem is it takes 12mm film which is a bit hard to find these days".

Picked up some Ilford XP2 (I have no experience with rollfilm) on the way home.

I just can't find the autofocus/autoexposure button...

Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakePENTAX CorporationCamera ModelPENTAX K100DCamera SoftwareGIMP 2.4.0Sensing MethodOne-Chip Color AreaColor Filter Array Pattern564Focal Length (35mm Equiv)0 mmImage-Specific Properties:Image OrientationTop, Left-HandHorizontal Resolution72 dpiVertical Resolution72 dpiImage Created2008:05:01 00:05:14Exposure Time1/10 secF-Numberf/0.0Exposure ProgramManualISO Speed Rating400Exposure Bias0 EVMetering ModeCenter Weighted AverageFlashNo FlashFocal Length0.00 mmRenderingNormalExposure ModeManualWhite BalanceManualScene Capture TypeStandardContrastNormalSaturationNormalSharpnessNormalSubject Distance RangeDistant View
>> Anonymous
>>172644
/facepalm, i hope your trolling...
>> Anonymous
>>172669
i think its called a joke.
>> Anonymous
>>172671
yea, i was hoping so, but considering how the rest of /p/ is...
>> Anonymous
120 is expensive.
Only good if you develop yourself.
>> Serenar !m827jEgWi.
>>172644
Looks beautiful. My friend has a pretty similar one, but his looks like it was chewed up by a dog (and doesn't work). Have fun shooting.

Also if you haven't used 120 you might want to read up on loading/removing it. Ken Rockwell actually has a decent guide to it, if you can't find anyone to teach you. It's a little counterintuitive at first, coming from 35mm.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>172644
>it takes 12mm film
On the off chance you don't realize this guy's a moron: 120 is not called 120 because it's 12mm (or even 120mm). That's just the name Kodak slapped on the size when they first came out with it.

(I believe because it was the 20th film format Kodak came out with after deciding to start in the 100s, but I can't find a source on that so it might just be an ass-pull)
>> Sicko !L3HRY/miC.
Yeah, don't panic I was kidding. :-p

I don't think 120 film is that much more expensive than 35mm, at least this XP2 was pretty much the same as most decent films. Although they had Solaris rolls going for 99p.

To ease myself into manual distance focusing/exposing, is it possible to use my Pentax MX (built in exposure meter), set at the same fstop and ISO to get a decent exposure?
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>172892
>I don't think 120 film is that much more expensive than 35mm
Square millimeter to square millimeter, it's about the same. Just that a roll of 135 will get you 36 shots but a roll of 120 will only get you 12.

>is it possible to use my Pentax MX (built in exposure meter), set at the same fstop and ISO to get a decent exposure?
Yep! A few digital cameras fuck up the ISO and don't quite match up with the standard everyone else uses, but as long as your film camera's set to the same aperture, ISO, and shutter speed, it'll give you the same exposure. I usually use a little P&S digital as my light meter when I'm using my old medium format meterless TLR.