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Anonymous
I need some advice. I want to get into photography, and I'm wondering what a good starter-camera is.

My budget is about 200-500$
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
Any point & shoot that offers manual controls. The Canon PowerShot A-series, for instance. My personal preference is the A630.

If you decide you hate photography (or just suck at it) you haven't invested that much. If you decide that you're really good at photography (even if you aren't, but are too stupid to realize it) the small point & shoot will still be useful if you eventually upgrade to an SLR.
>> Anonymous
>>76413
thanks, I'll check into that
>> Anonymous
digital slr kits start at $500. And they retain their value pretty well.
>> Anonymous
>>76434
srsly wtf. new dslr cameras become pretty much obsolete in three years. if this disturbs you, shoot film.
>> Anonymous
>>76857
I'm sick of this "obsolete" nonsense.

Just because there's something newer and ostensibly better out there doesn't mean something is less good than it was. If a camera suffices now to make technically acceptable photograph under a given set of conditions, it will until it clonks out. If someone came out tomorrow with a film with even finer grain than Velvia, it wouldn't make all the Velvia stock in existence useless.

Just really cheap for those of us who actually care about making photographs and not megapixels and frames per second rates and all that mess.
>> Anonymous
camera stores thrive on the myth of obselecene

the megapixel thing is the single biggest thing that keeps dumb consumers upgrading
>> Anonymous
Get a low level DSLR, and try and find a prime lens you can use with it...
(Lenses cost a lot.)

>>76858

I agree.
I was trying to explain that to my mother....
My father shoots with a Nikon D1Hs... which is a 3 mega pixel camera, My mother's canon powershot is 6 mega pixels. Guess which camera has better pictures.
>> Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s
>>76858
when digital stuff breaks its probably not going to be replaced. Since sensors have a limited life (production life is one run) they do die out much faster than films. Its pretty much always upgrading as soon as you can.
>> Anonymous
>>77062
So? You have to buy a new camera every so often. Economically speaking, it beats having to buy a new roll of film every 36 shots.

If you're "upgrading as soon as you can" you're wasting a lot of money and will probably never really get to know your equipment, unless the thing you upgrade to is really similar to the old thing.
>> Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s
>>77068
Generally upgrading is from one model to another, like the A100 to the A300. Similar model.

Film cameras last forever since the film can be changed to get different results, its worth sticking with a film camera longer than a digital one.

I said nothing about cost of film vs digital, dont bring that argument here.
>> Anonymous
>>76412
My advice to you is to shut the fuck up and lurk moar. We only get about 5 or 6 of these posts every day, so do some fucking reading.
>> Anonymous
>>77105
Lulz @ calling murk loar on a 4 day old poast.
>> Anonymous
You can get a Pentax K100D with kit lens for about $400 after rebate. If you feel like you've outgrown that particular camera, the K10D is available. 6MP is plenty as long as you aren't making gigantic prints. (8x10 does not count as gigantic, by the way.) If you want huge prints, you should get a film SLR anyhow. If you go the way of the Pentax, the K1000 can be had for a very reasonable price and tend to pop up on eBay, CraigsList, and many colleges with art programs. Oh, and invest in a decent tripod... the shake reduction is nice, but a tripod is even better.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>77136
I've pulled a decent 16x20 out of a 5MP point & shoot, for the record.
>> Anonymous
>>77136
>>77138
i pulled a nice 20x30 with a D80 just because i want to add to this record.
>> Anonymous
Fujica 690
>> Anonymous
>>77138
it depends more on the photographer than the camera, but most point-and-shoots have horrible noise performance for photos taken indoors and in anything but good ligthing
>> Anonymous
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probably the best quality pocketable point and shoot with image stabilization and a reasonable zoom, a 710 is

till the next highest iteration of the canon a series... the a 720 is, shipping next month i think

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