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LCD live preview annoyingmouse
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To the ones of you with SLRs without live preview (the ability to see on the screen whatever is focused by the lens) - how much do you miss it?
I find live preview to be really important, there are so many shots that become almost impossible without live preview, not to mention a screen that can rotate (swivel screen or whatever they are called).
sticking your camera out of the car window and being able to preview what you are filming is just one example, but also macro picture of stuff on the floor etc etc.
Dont give me this shit about real-men get down on their knees.
I would have just lived with it, but there are some D-SLRs out there like the Fuji S5-pro (not sure about the model) who offer some sort of live-preview.
So how do you overcome it?
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>> Anonymous
if your taking a good photo thats composed well and shot well then use a dslr, otherwise a point and shoot will suffice if you need live view.
>> Anonymous
DSLR's don't take video, so its not a big deal, All you need to do is have it line up once, So just take a 3 shot burst, it will be quicker than the P&S's single shot and then delete the bad ones.

Chimping works fine for parties and other events where composition takes a backseat to the "moment". But for anything that needs careful composition, the DSLR's have to be looked through. Its only a problem like for 1-2% of pictures anyway.

But if you really want live preview, Get an olympus or a Mark III lol. I didn't think the S5 offered that personally.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
Less than I expected to. Yeah, there are times when I wish I could hold my camera at a weird angle without holding my self at a weird angle too, but the through-the-lens view (as opposed to the through-the-lens-to-the-sensor-to-the-low-res-LCD view) more than makes up for it.
>> Anonymous
I find LCD live preview only useful for manual focusing with old or macro lenses. It's not that good for framing, because holding a xbox huge DSLR in front of you so you can see the LCD is just awkward and leads to more blurry shots.
>> Anonymous
I miss one feature of the live preview, and that is that I was able to see the light 'curve' diagram (don't know the right word for this) before and as I took the picture. Really, really useful. The rest I can do without.
>> annoyingmouse
thanks guys, I feel better now about getting a D200.
I read somewhere (and can't find the link or replicate the search string) that future models of DSLR cameras will offer live preview, but hoping for a moveable LCD screen is probably asking for too much.
I remember something about a half transparent mirror/ "mirror-up mode" and such. All cause some problems in design of course but apparently there is some demand for it.
Another great use for (swivel) screen - holding the camera against a wall in a rather small dark place. I got a friend who photographs appartments for a real-estate agency (doesn't get more boring than that) and uses that technique to get a slightly wider angel.
>> Anonymous
>>68612
Seeing that Canon got off its ass and put live view in their flagship camera, I think most of the camera makers will follow in the next few years. But waiting for a camera that isn't even announced yet is really dumb, so you did nothing wrong when you got the D200.

There is only one DSLR now that offers both live view and articulated LCD - Olympus E330, but I wouldn't really recommend it. The next pro DSLR from Olympus is supposed to have that stuff too.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>68607
>the light 'curve' diagram
Histogram.
>> Anonymous
>>68515
From your post, I assume that the only exposure (no pun intended) you've had to film was, at most, a disposable 35mm camera. Most digital cameras don't have the "swivel screen" (though most camcorders do) and the "live preview" was often delayed on digital cameras, even if only by a fraction of a second. Toss in the delay between pressing the shutter release and the image actually being taken, and... well... it's your call who's the winner.

The only situation I can think of where I couldn't get a shot from laying down, changing lenses, or repositioning my body would be a MySpace-like self portrait. I'd suggest either the use of a self-timer or a remote if switching to a wide-angle lens and decent lighting weren't enough.

BTW, it isn't that real men get down on their knees... it's that real photographers will take the necessary steps to get the shot they're looking for.
>> annoyingmouse
>>68903
hmpf don't want to bump a finished thread, but your ingenious deduction ability must be praised!
I was the proud owner of many 35mm cameras, none of which was disposable (not that I remember at least).
Your lack of imagination tells me that you never tried to take complicated pictures - except myspace-type complicated portraits (? never got into that myself).
50 years ago you could take wonderful pictures with very old-fashioned cameras - yes.
Today you can take better pictures, and do it much more comfortably. Thats what digital offers me - comfort.
reasons to have live preview on a swivel screen: try to take a picture of a mushroom/flower from underneath; crawling after your kid in some crazy playing ground, taking pictures without being seen, taking pictures in a press conference or a similar situation where you are forced to hold your camera over your head - and I can go on and on. I'll be damned if the swivel screen doesnt become popular again as soon as the technology for live-preview on SLRs is cheap and easy to implement. I think that it was on some Olympos cameras - a screen that can only be pushed on one axis - maybe 50 degrees or so - arguably less breakable. Swivel LCDs are also cheap to manufacture and can just be replaced. So there you go.
>> heavyweather !4AIf7oXcbA
Live view as it's currently implemented in digital SLRs is almost entirely worthless. It's a glorified depth of field preview, at best.