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so im going long-term travelling pretty soon...any suggestions on what camera to take?

three considerations:
- im packing light (30litre bag)
- dont want to be too conspicuous
- i want to get proper photos and hopefully get some stuff published as a freelancer (dont know much about photography yet, but im prepared to work hard and learn)

someone has recommended the lumix lx3? good/bad suggestion? any more ideas?
>> Anonymous
any help?
>> Anonymous
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the lx3 is for hipster faggots

get a real man's camera like the Nikon P6000
>> Anonymous
>>245957

and the reasoning behind that is?
>> Anonymous
because this is pretty much what happened at the meeting when they made the lx3

>> oh hey guys, let's make a small, slow shitty camera that will appeal to hipster faggots and elitists and let's charge the most money we possibly can for it

>> but tom, it's just the same internals as our other shitty Lumix cameras! how can we get away with that!

>> let's just put a leica logo on the lens and outsource it to the same plant that makes our regular optics!

>> great idea! let's do some blow now

and the nikon is something like oh let's put the best features possible in a compact and call it the p6000

everything the lx3 does, the p6000 does better

and it's a nikon so it's a camera made by photographers for photographers, someone said it here
>> heavyweather !4AIf7oXcbA
>>245969
Noooooo what have I doooooooone
>> Anonymous
>>245969

cheers for the advice, appreciate your help....how would you classify these types of cameras? somewhere between a p+s and an slr?

how would you say the p6000 compares against a dslr? advantages/disadvantages for what im gonna go?
>> Anonymous
>>245977

uhhh what

they're both point and shoots

and also, don't get the p6000 because it costs the same as the lx3
>> Anonymous
>>245979

i mean in the sense that they have more manual controls

so are you saing lx3 > p6000? i take it youre a different anon
>> Anonymous
no, i'm the same

the lx3 IS for hipster faggots

the p6000 IS a real man's camera

but you don't need a $500 camera is what i'm saying

unless you really want a $500 point and shoot
>> Anonymous
>>245987

when you keep on saying "real mans" it sounds insecure...!

i think i would need a good camera if i am to make the most of the opportunities that will arise from independent travel...especially getting something published. thanks for your comments though
>> Anonymous
I am a LX2 user and I'm satisfied with the results, capabilities and operation of this camera.
I don't know how is that new Nikon but I have tested some nikon p&s cameras and almost all of them are shit.

You can also try the Ricoh GX100
>> Anonymous
bump
>> Anonymous
The Lumix P&S cameras are supposed to be fantastic, don't listen to the Nikon fagurts talk big, they're just threatened.

They also look cool too.
>> Anonymous
>>246026They also look cool too.

completely invalidates opinion on anything related to photo
>> Anonymous
>>246027

BAWWWWWWWWWWWWww

I wanna look serious when I'm capturing images of real life

BAWWWW
>> Anonymous
>>246031I wanna look serious when I'm capturing images of real life

LOL
>> Anonymous
>>246026

anyone have any practical/hands on experience with the LX3?
>> Anonymous
Never listen to Canikon faggots. Ever. It's all brand loyalty bullshit drivel coated in faux knowledge.


Anyway, what about a small DSLR like the E420 with the pancake lens?
>> Anonymous
The guy pimping the Nikon doesn't know what he's talking about, ignore him.

Are you the same guy going to S. America who came on here before?
>> Geo
If you are traveling to South America, you're in the right way, since an SLR would be very conspicuous and a potential theft alert (I know, I live in Brazil). If you're in the USA, just go to a store, shoot a few frames with both and make up your mind. What's lighter, faster, easier to use, etc. regardless of brand. One thing to notice is that the P6000, while a good camera per se, has a crippled RAW mode, if that's important to you.
>> Anonymous
>>246683

yeah thats me, thought i would run the thread one more time to see what people say

>>246699

thanks for confirming it, i was odds on for something small. ill definitely take your advice and get some hands on feel for the cameras before i buy. cheers.
>> Anonymous
cannon "Ae-1 program" the best camera ever
>> Anonymous
>>247377
I was the guy with the big lengthy advice, so if you don't remember what I said:

At the bridge camera level, at the moment only Panasonic and Ricoh are worth looking at, and your best bets are the LX3 or Ricoh GX200. They make other good cameras- the FZ series on Panasonic's side, IMO the best being the older FZ8 and FZ50 models depending on use and preference, and the GR series on Ricoh's- but for various reasons these will probably be less suited to your needs. The FZ series will probably fit better in your hand (they're not flat, they're shaped like SLRs), but on the flipside will be bulkier and harder to hide if you need to. The GR series has one fixed lens, which would normally be better, but it's 28mm equivalent, too wide for an only lens for most people, especially beginners. Otherwise they're the same as the GX series, which have a zoom lens, oh and an EVF for 100% accurate TTL framing, like on the rear LCD, but without having to hold it in front of you like a dipshit.

Everyone else has either given up on bridge cameras or vastly compromised them.

If you do go for an LX-3, when you get it find a more moderate wide and a normal step on the zoom you like, and buy shoe finders for those. Much better than holding out the LCD in front of your face. Panasonic makes one, but it's inexplicably only for the widest end.

Voigtlaender makes good shoe finders, they're for sale in North America at http://www.cameraquest.com/voigtacc.htm.

If you're elsewhere, I'm not sure if there's somewhere closer. There probably is. You're from the UK, right?
>> Anonymous
>>247406

yeah thats right im from the uk

appreciate your advice no end - ive saved it for future reference
>> Anonymous
>>246699
I challenge you all, /p/, and would ONLY take a rangefinder camera... a Canonet eg would be perfect... you will never miss a shot, ever.

"Nikon P6000 is a real man camera" suck my dick head, faggot.
>> Anonymous
I have an LX3 and I think it's an excellent compact camera. I don't know anything about P6000, but I do know that>>245969is a bad troll or has never touched an LX3.
>> Anonymous
>>247588

why would a rangefinder be suitable? a digital one? film would be too much hassle i think...
>> Serenar !m827jEgWi.
>>247581
If you go for shoe finders I think the official UK distributor is Robert White.

>>247723
I suppose the idea is that it's compact without (well, with most of them) sacrificing too much control and image quality. But unless you're willing to shoot film a rangefinder is impractical.

If film is okay, then I'd spring for a pair of Olympus XAs or Pens, though the latter series is half frame.