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How would you have taken this shot to make it more artistic?

Also, how would you edit it to make it superfantastico!?
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>> Anonymous
Id leave the shot untaken.

No amounts of photoshop can save this one, sorry.
>> Anonymous
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>>230983
Part 2

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>> Anonymous
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And the final one

I know they arnt professional, but I'm tryin to make my skills... exist
And since it wont let me upload on /ic/, you can be my mentor

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>> Anonymous
>>230983
Get closer, use a red filter+ Delta 100 in rodinal.

Delete these. They suck
>> Anonymous
>>230995
Yeah like I said, its all amatuer. I understood nothing except 'delete these'
>> Anonymous
>>230997
Everything I said is amateur level.
Google would help you. Artistic= DYI b&w.

A guy at your skill level should be shooting much more, resizing, and trying out black a white film to learn from your mistakes. Digital is not a format for everyone, since it just makes beginners trigger happy, and not contemplative after loosing half a roll of film to shitty shots.
>> Anonymous
>>231001
B&W just seems so cliche
>> Anonymous
>>231001
Or, use digital.

Take lots of different pictures with different settings when you're not sure what to do (a bracket, basically) and find out what suits you best, AND spend less money overall (not paying for film) - you don't have to practice over and over on limited film, also increasing the chance that you will take more risky, tricky, interesting (and the like) pictures, without worrying thats its basically ruining the precious film 'space'..

All this, of course, for a hobby he could just drop in a couple weeks (/months/etc.)?


IMO, use whatever digital, and go wild - find your own style... You yourself can tell that the picture isn't very artistic, that is important. Try different things then (even just angle/distance, maybe add some elements to the tree [get someone to climb it, and sit up there or something? I dunno]), until you find something that is artistic (in your opinion)...
Also, in terms of editing, I think you should try and get the picture you want when you take it, and then correct colours/contrast/some exposure, cropping and the like - it can make a huge difference, but its not gonna to make any old picture amazing.
>> Anonymous
>>231006
Thanks for your input, I really do appreciate that
And I didnt like the idea of film anyway. If it turned out I had no hope of taking good pictures, I'd be throwing money into a black hole with no return

And it is just a hobby, its not for study or a career
Its a leasurely thing that I want to look good.
Just to sit back and say 'shit yeah, i rule'
>> Serenar !m827jEgWi.
Well, what do you mean by "artistic", OP? If we use the generally accepted vague definition that art is something that communicates a message from the artist, you'd better start out with a message.

Why do you want to show us the tree? Why did you put the tree in the middle and not the side? Why didn't you fully include the bushes on the right? If you can't answer any of those, or similar other questions, don't take the picture.
>> Anonymous
>>231010
When you put it like that, it sounds like I was trying to compose a masterpiece to echo through the ages
I wasnt, so maybe 'artistic' isnt the word I should use

Im just trying to get the basics covered in photography before I try recreating Warhol
>> Anonymous
Needs moar HDR and lens flare.
>> sage !i/euDJmWr2
I would have improved it by...not taking it. I mean, really, it's a tree. It's just a tree. it's not a particularly interesting tree, it's centered, and it's not anything to look at. If it was the only tree in a field full of whispy looking wheat or something, then I would have taken a 5-10 second exposure on a windy day and tried to slightly underexpose the tree. but in this situation I would have said "o hay, a tree" and left it at that.
>> M?e?e?s?e??? !iZn5BCIpug
>>232097
What if you were forced into selling the tree??
>> Serenar !m827jEgWi.
>>231014
What you'll find as you keep taking pictures is that those questions become increasingly important. Think of it this way: what makes your photo of this tree different from a photo some alien robot probe would take of it after landing in the area? You need to have some sort of human input into the picture taking process that gets to at least "how do I make this picture look interesting" and hopefully to "how can I make this picture express my idea".
>> iProd !8x7lXo9zIQ
Go back, and this time light the tree on fire.
>> Anonymous
Fire WOULD look pretty damn awesome
>> Anonymous
take it from a different angle..pick your subject. make it more known.
new angle.
new angle.

res is a bust.
you need more mp.
blah.
>> Anonymous
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cant believe nobody did this yet

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>> Anonymous
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Sometimes you see a view that looks like it would make a good picture, so you look through the lens and take a shot, but it doesn't capture how cool you thought it would look---

the trick is to try a lot of different things until you see something that really pops or grabs you. Frame the subject differently, stand back farther, stand closer, get a different angle, put something else in the frame with the subject, etc etc

Practice is how you'll get better at this.

Some tips that will help you as you learn (you can find more online)... look up the "rule of thirds"-- it's not a rule that all good photos must follow, but if you try it you might find you take more interesting photos. Also, try having things in the foreground and background from your subject (whether they are in focus or not), it'll make your photos less flat, give them some life.

I'm a newbie too. In the photo I posted I was just trying to take a pic of this crater and this dude was in the way. I almost didn't take the shot because of him, until I looked again and realized having him in the picture made the picture so much better. It makes it more interesting because now the photo has a story to it.

Hope this helps. Just keep shooting and getting ideas.