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Sony alpha launch Grev !!5D+HXONd/uX
Photo related. This was a while ago, I was invited to the Sony Alpha SLR launch, with their (then new) A200 and A350. This was shot with one of the alphas with nasty kit lenses.

They put up a good show at the MET in Brisbane (Australia), models, held at a club, free alcohol and such...

I just remembered when they held a thing to display photos so you can win a prize at the end (a A700, A350 etc) and I entered this pyros spitting out fire, when going through one of my photos, he said "That's grainy."

It was a big facepalm moment, fair enough there were models, but the lighting was bad (as always for a SLR launch) and your sensors are bad and you only provide us with slow kit lenses, of course it's going to be grainy...

So there you go, don't think Sony people know much about photography or understand it either.
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>> Grev !!5D+HXONd/uX
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>> hV !!Uu8NMl1et5d
You're right about the bad lighting...
>> Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s
>So there you go, don't think Sony's marketing people know much about photography or care or understand it either.
Fix'ed for giant corporations.
>> Grev !!5D+HXONd/uX
>>265383
But they were there strictly for the DSLRs...

Their video launch was ok though.
>> Jeremo !iKGMr61IHM
hehe i lol'd
>> Anonymous
is it possible to make a Sony bashing thread without Butterfly sucking Sony cock in it?
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>265407
No. Just like it's impossible to make a Canon or Nikon thread with out Canonfags and Nikonfags sucking Canon or Nikon's cock (respectively) in it. Ditto pentax, Olympys, Leica, etc.

It just stands out more with Butterfly because
1. She's a tripfag
2. She falls for the trolling EVERY GODDAMN TIME. FUCKINGSAGE.
>> Anonymous
is it possible to make a tripfag bashing post without ac sucking tripfag cock in it?
>> Jeremo !iKGMr61IHM
>>265408

Dude, when did you become convinced Butterfag was a she? Did i miss a revelation?
>> Anonymous
i'm with Jeremo on this one, even though he's been a huge faggot ever since he came back

stop calling Butterfly she, jesus christ
>> Jeremo !iKGMr61IHM
>>265416

>>even though he's been a huge faggot ever since he came back

LOL wat? i haven't even posted anything remotely resembling an opinion haha...ahh man, how i've miss /p/ still faggots galore i see. Oh well one more won't hurt.
>> Jeremo !iKGMr61IHM
>>265419

Back on point though, why the fuck are we calling Butterfag she again? We've established for a long while that it's a he and the faggot has never proved otherwise.

Let's give it a rest.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>265410
I'm not sucking tripfag cock in this particular instance. I'm bashing the Anonymous who posted>>265407. There is a subtle but distinct difference. As evidence, I point to the fact that my point #2 indicates that I want her to die in a fire.

>>265413
>>265416
>>265421
I have no problem with what gender Butterfly chooses to self-represent as, and a general policy of using whatever pronouns someone wants to use on themselves. So, she calls herself a she, I'll call her a she and it honestly doesn't matter to me whether or not she has a penis. Given how many things there are to hate about her, picking something as trivial as the gender she claims to be on an anonymous internet forum just seems petty and immature to me.
>> Anonymous
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>>265439I have no problem with what gender Butterfly chooses to self-represent as, and a general policy of using whatever pronouns someone wants to use on themselves. So, she calls herself a she, I'll call her a she and it honestly doesn't matter to me whether or not she has a penis. Given how many things there are to hate about her, picking something as trivial as the gender she claims to be on an anonymous internet forum just seems petty and immature to me.
>> Grev !!5D+HXONd/uX
Way to ruin my thread guise. ^_^
>> Anonymous
>>265408
>No. Just like it's impossible to make a Canon or Nikon thread with out me talking about what gear I use and posting incredibly shitty snapshots that could have been taken using any P&S camera.
>> Jeremo !iKGMr61IHM
>>265448

Blame ButterTrap.
>> Anonymous
>>265459
Nah, I don't care really. Not serious business for me.
>> Grev !!5D+HXONd/uX
>>265469
Sorry I was at /b/.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>265448
To be fair, it was clearly a trollthread to begin with. It's like saying "Maaan. You got garbage all over my shitpile"
>> i - !EoFJjFcCco
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Y'all niggas are getting trolled
>> Grev !!5D+HXONd/uX
>>265473
It's not. I was actually using the camera and can find many faults with it, and their staff really don't know anything about photography.

I think you've got the term troll mingled with something else.
>> Anonymous
>>265473

didn't read like a troll thread at all to me, until Butterfly came in
>> Jeremo !iKGMr61IHM
>>265477

i didn't think it was a troll thread. And i think i was the one who derailed it with the Butterfag is a man shit.

Back on point. Current Sony gear is shit and their customer service know noting about cameras.

Funnily enough none of those two points surprise me.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>265477
>>265478
>>265484
Seriously? The OP is basically "Sony sucks and so do their salespeople". All you're going to get in this thread is Sonyfags coming in and saying "NO U", and everyone else coming in and saying "hah hah yeah, they suck".

It is a thread with no purpose other than to say how Sony sucks. What could the possible result of that be other than a flamewar with Sony users? A post whose only purpose is to get angry flames sounds pretty much like the definition of a troll to me.
>> Jeremo !iKGMr61IHM
>>265486
I dunno, is it still a troll thread when it's fact?
>> Grev !!5D+HXONd/uX
>>265486
If only every single opinion were considered trolling.

I've said Nikon's strategy is crap and got owned at Photokina and I think you agreed with me, why didn't you call me trolling at that time? Because you use Canon?

...

PS I use Nikon mainly although I do have a 40d.
>> Jeremo !iKGMr61IHM
>>265493

I kinda think they got owned too, though it could have been much worse if the 5DII was a better camera.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>265490
I'd say yes.

AND IT IS TRUE, OH SNAP.
>> Grev !!5D+HXONd/uX
>>265495
Yes they did, failing to announce major new products at the biggest event isn't wise.

I do like the 5d2, but I want to see what Nikon's MX format might be like...
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>265493
The difference was that that wasn't the *only purpose of the thread*. As I recall, it was a general "Hey, let's talk about photokina" thread. It's like the difference between mentioning during a discussion of religion that you think homosexuality is wrong and organizing a protest with "GOD HATES FAGS" placards a-blazing.
>> Anonymous
>>265486

uh, just because it makes fun/makes someone look bad doesn't mean it's a troll thread
>> Jeremo !iKGMr61IHM
>>265502

well it sorta makes sense if they didn't have anything else to announce.

Since if they announced the D700 against the 5DII... man that wouldn't have been pretty...

But they 'announced' the D90 and the new 50mm... Maybe the rumoured D3x won't come and instead we'll get MX... fuck i wish i knew now so i knew how to spend my money. FUCK
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>>265495it could have been much worse if the 5DII was a better camera
>> Grev !!5D+HXONd/uX
>>265508
Taking things out of context really...

I think this has derailed.
>> Grev !!5D+HXONd/uX
>>265513
Buy some medium format gear, they're so worth it.

Got to love medium format advantage.

Trying to find the Mamiya 645 lens, the 80mm f1.9, no luck yet, and if I do find it, it'd only be the lens, as I have not 645 gear at all.
>> Anonymous
>>265502Yes they did, failing to announce major new products at the biggest event isn't wise.

They don't have unlimited resources. And they do not have the ability to create their own sensors like Sony and Canon do. They have to go along the flow and take what they can.

Nikon uses 2 or 3 sensors, and shares it between all its models. It's been like this with all their previous models.

They can't fuck around like Canon and make a different sensor for every single model they have.

They've got the D300, D700 and D3 before Photokina and got more than enough press for it. Albeit that doesn't translate into huge revenu given the small market these are catered for.

Then they dropped the D90, the FIRST dSLR with video ever and got even more props.

Canon has been sitting still for 3 years and took their sweet ass time to make the 5D II.

It's easily the best product in its class but that's to be expected, because it's the latest and greatest. They're not going to be the last to announce something and have it worse than Nikon and Sony. That's just stupid.
>> Jeremo !iKGMr61IHM
>>265515
LOL, compare it to what the original 5D did to the market or indeed D3 and you'll see what i mean. The only snazzy thing about is the video and i couldn't care less about that.

>>265522
Yeah, i think that's going to the route i take, digital though, that or LF. It's just a pain in the arse because i want to make a purchase but i feel like because of all the latest developments in MF by everyone i'd be making a move too early. FUCCCCK.

But yes, fuckin major derailment with this thread.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>265520
>Taking things out of context really...
NO U.

By which I mean, my whole point is that the discussion you brought up was part of a larger context of "Let's talk about photokina" whereas the context of this is just "Let's bash Sony". It doesn't really leave open the door for anything other than argument. And metadiscussion/derailing like this.
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>>265525LOL, compare it to what the original 5D did to the market or indeed D3 and you'll see what i mean. The only snazzy thing about is the video and i couldn't care less about that.
>> Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s
How can you accuse me of _being_ trolled when i post once and you all automatically generate a shitstorm.

Also, why did no one pick up on me insulting the marketing department im usual proclaiming to be the best in the world? You guys really need to pick up more.

Besides, the op even said:
>but the lighting was bad (as always for a SLR launch)
Clearly indicating that this is normal (moody lighting > useful lighting) and not just for sony. If you removed Sony and stuck Canon, Nikon etc in what I said you'd all agree anyway.
>> Grev !!5D+HXONd/uX
>>265524
I know I know... they're doing better since they fired their own board of members, which is good.

>>265525
I tried looking for 8x10 cameras, no luck yet haha...

>>265527
So you never looked at the model I posted?

PS I got her number btw, right after the show. ;)
>> Jeremo !iKGMr61IHM
>>265533
>>I tried looking for 8x10 cameras, no luck yet haha...

I'd be getting a 4x5... 8x10 just seems to be a huge pain in the arse in every respect.
>> Anonymous
It's no wonder AC can't get laid when he can't be arsed enough to care about Butterfart's gender.

PS: She is a lady and quite fit at that. I would snog her rotten.
>> Anonymous
>>265696
hello butterfly
>> Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s
>>265698
I can troll better than that, besides I love how some anon has decided to troll (on my behalf?) that he's seen photos of me.
>> Martin !!ve2Q1ETWmJH
>I would snog her rotten.
>> Anonymous
>>265707
you posted pix of you out clubbing before
asian w/short hair kind of goth clothes & makeup
>> fence !!POey2hdozCZ
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confirmed butterfly sighting.
>> Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s
hey that's not me!
>> Anonymous
Jebus, anon so powerful.
>> Grev !!5D+HXONd/uX
self pwn lulz new tripcode time
>> Grev !!5D+HXONd/uX
Attention guys, my asshole is approx f/0.3
Please disregard anything else you may have heard..
>> Grebbin !!M4ehTJKOnNf
>>265746
Phew new tripcode guises! ^_^
>> Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s
This thread is now awesome <3
>> Grebbin !!M4ehTJKOnNf
>>265752
Because I self pwn7?
>> Anonymous
>>265739
ew

probly a trap
>> Grev !!5D+HXONd/uX
why lie, you're not me!
>> Syphilis !SC5mMmABng
Greb, I see you are a brisfag, want to go shooting sometime?
>> Grebbin !!M4ehTJKOnNf
>>265770
That's the spirit of 4chan!

>>265772
And I guess... where's some of your stuff?
>> Syphilis !SC5mMmABng
check your most recent watcher on devart
>> Grebbin !!M4ehTJKOnNf
>>265774
I got it.

A 40D eh, good camera.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>265739
Hey, where did you get that picture of me?!?

>>265696
There is just nothing right with this post.
>> Anonymous
>>265789
>There is just nothing right with this post.

Except that you're fat, gross, and can't get laid.