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Anonymous
sup /p/

So today i was out taking some photos by a mall near my house. Mall security told me to leave and delete my photos, I tell them i will leave to avoid trouble but i am not going to delete my photos. They then proceed to call the police and before i know it i am handcuffed, being searched, and forced to delete my photos.

also they sent 5 police cruises with 2 cops in each. And per usual, cops were complete cocks.

tl;dr-got hassled by cops for taking pictures

any similar experiences
>> Martin !!ve2Q1ETWmJH
Basically the same thing happened to me inside a shop, but only 1 police unit appeared. The photo was only a 'myspace' angle of myself and a friend...
>> sage !i/euDJmWr2
You should have just said "okay" and turned and left. Defiantly saying that you weren't going to delete the pictures is what pissed them off. Law enforcement and faux law enforcement really dislike the notion that they aren't all supreme, ya know?

But they cannot legally force you to delete the pictures.
>> Anonymous
>>185623
sue.

http://www.krages.com/phoright.htm
>> Anonymous
>>185640
"Property owners may legally prohibit photography on their premises"
strait from your link.
It's illegal to take photos in most shops, especially chains.
>> Anonymous
whoops, missed the bit about confiscation of film
>> beechan
SUE THEM, SRSLY

and you're a fucking pussy to let yourself be pushed around by those people.
>> Anonymous
>>185623
Were you taking photos of the mall or just things near it?

Rule of thumb: Any building/structure/etc. (save government buildings) visible from a public area can be photographed legally.

Of course the best place to take it would be from a sidewalk, street, etc. You can still legally photograph a building while on private grounds, but if you're told to leave, you should right away, otherwise you are now trespassing.

I do commercial real estate photography for a living and take multiple photos of all types of building every day; office, industrial, retail, etc. I get confronted every few days asking what I'm doing. I greet them and tell them. Some people are really nice. Some are complete assholes and tell them straight out I have a right to photograph the building and explain the laws. They usually leave pissed off knowing they're in the wrong.
>> Anonymous
>>185642

But if you read OPs post he says "taking some photos BY a mall", not inside. Bassically OP you shouldn't of let them push you around since you have a public right to take pictures, as long as you were not acctually inside the mall.
>> Anonymous
>>185667
>Bassically OP you shouldn't of let them push you around since you have a public right to take pictures, as long as you were not acctually inside the mall.

Mall property (parking lot, etc) is not public space.
He would have to be on a sidewalk.
>> Anonymous
>>185668

By inside the mall, I meant on there property.
>> Warren !!JL+uuUHRNlZ
OP: were you on public property? If so you have a case against them.

Also, for future reference read up on your rights and carry a printed version of applicable laws with you at all times. If you can read your rights to those hassling you, you've got a lot more leverage.
>> Anonymous
>>185666
There are still some building that have some sort of trademark or copyright, you're still aloud to take photos but you can't sell them.
The Eiffel Tower at night for example
>> Anonymous
>>185678

What? They can trademark the Eiffel Tower which is viewable from most of central Paris?? Really?

I would have thought EU law would be on your side in this.
>> Anonymous
>>185683
they copyrighted the lighting pattern of the eiffel tower.
>> Anonymous
>>185685
Silly French.
>> Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s
>>185699
Sensible money jew loving french.
>> Anonymous
It doesn't matter whether you were on their property or not, if they forced you to delete photos they are in the wrong. A property owner has the right to restrict photography on their premises, but it only applies once you've been informed. They can't retroactively prohibit it, and they can't force you to delete photos.

As for the police, they can make you leave but unless they charge you with a crime (and confiscate your memory cards as evidence) they can't force you to delete pictures.

You should sue.
>> sv !!vC9KZM3Ch/H
I've only been approached once and told I couldn't take pictures and needed to delete them.

I created a new folder on my camera and set the playback folder to that new (and empty) folder. When I hit the button to show the images, it said, "no images" or whatever.

So just keep an empty folder on your card, and if asked to delete, say, "sure, let me format the card" and change the directory to the empty folder. Win.

But this is also a bad thing because you don't get to show this person how they're (most likely) wrong.
>> heavyweather !4AIf7oXcbA
>>185703
The only way you'd get anywhere with a suit like that is if you're a professional photographer and can establish that they were causing you to lose money. Yay our legal system.
>> The Pentacon !!XucVlAk1mCB
>being searched
lol you stupid american, giving consent. they say "mind if i search you?" you say "yes i mind, don't do it" and then you can sue if they do. what a dumbass, you shouldn't try to exert your rights if you're completely oblivious to them.
>> Anonymous
>>185716
LOL you do not give consent, they just fucking search you and you have no say in the matter.
>> Einta !!MWv3ICYobCM
You're a dumbass.

There's no way you should ever lose photos - not unless you're effectively mugged.

Just delete the card, leave and recover your damn photos. Recover software ftw/eak, if you don't want to be confrontational.

Or don't wait until the cops arrive? They can't detain you, and running from rentacops isn't a crime.

Forced to delete your photos? What did they do, point their guns at you and say "Erase or die"? Next time, perhaps just refuse? It'll never go anywhere, and if you're pleasant to the cops at least, there shouldn't be a major problem.

ITT OP sucks at keeping his photos, fails at assertion and will hopefully learn for next time.
>> Anonymous
>>185721
Illegal without reasonable suspicion that you may be armed and/or carrying illegal substances or stolen goods.

What the hell would they find anyway?

"Yes, Sergeant, after a brief search we established that he was indeed just a photographer."
>> The Pentacon !!XucVlAk1mCB
>>185721
>LOL you do not give consent, they just fucking search you and you have no say in the matter.
oh hi person who has no idea about the legal system. if you don't understand what you're talking about, shut the fuck up and get out. look up "illegal search and seizure".
>> Anonymous
>>185729
you are talking about how things are SUPPOSED to work, not how they actually DO work.
>> Anonymous
I once was forced to leave a subway station because of a shot I wanted to take. I told them I hadn't taken a single picture and demonstrated by showing them most of my folder. The guard told me to leave the facilities.

I tell him "Would you mind to accompany me to the other exit?", since I'd be going out the wrong way and would have to cross an avenue with a malfunctioning light (which obviously means everlasting green to the assholes going through it) and had nobody regulating the traffic.

And he tells me, in an attempt at an intimidating tone "No. You'll be leaving over THERE."

Sure enough, I had to exit through the wrong side and wait for the cars to stop passing.

Then the fucker comes out and tells me I can't be on the sidewalk near the station, and I have to leave NOW.

He clearly was looking at the passing cars, and had a weapon ready.

I STOOD IN PLACE.

He puts the hand in the weapon (a club) and repeats "Leave NOW."

I answer "This is the sidewalk, and I have to wait until the cars have finished passing. I already left the station and I couldn't take the shot, so you have no excuse to run me out of... the sidewalk."

Needless to say, he readied the club.

"I won't repeat myself. You have three."

"Call your boss."

He got in and never came out.
>> The Pentacon !!XucVlAk1mCB
>>185732
no, that IS how they work, or else you get their name and badge number and sue the police department. call the ACLU. but i think you may be too much of a dumbass to operate a phone.
>> Anonymous
>>185722

True - all formats (prove me wrong?) on cards just delete the fileallocation table - not the files. Sandisk actually give you a utility ( Rescuepro 4.0 CD included in my latest 4gb SD card) to get stuff back. Quite a few others out there - but not many free ones - keep those you find for later usage.

Just don't take any more pictures in case you overwrite it though.

Yes - just had to use something similar on a hard drive (which rescuepro doesn't do - only "removable drives") since windows killed my NTFS FAT table. It's all still there so long as I don't write over it and am willing to spend the sloooooooow time getting it back.
>> Anonymous
>>185733
nice way you cooked up your copypasta
>> Anonymous
>>185733

Needs more Fresh Prince.
>> Anonymous
>>185735

No - that really is true. At least it is in Britain.

All they have to do is "assume" that you're a terrorist and they can apologise later. You can complain if you want - I'm sure that will work after they have shown that they are "sorry" by "apologising".

Witness the hundreds of people arrested under the terrorism act for protesting. Witness the Labour MP (in the ruling party??) who took a picture at the party conference of the line of MP's waiting to get into the conference hall who was told that his pictures wouldn't be deleted. Handed back 3 seconds later with the card formatted.

"oh dear - that was a mistake - we apologise". They don't care.
>> Anonymous
>>185758

Terrorism laws that they wouldn't have been able to pass without the good old USA pushing the "Terrorism - Arrrrrgh! It's all around us!" card.

However not all the USA's fault - the local press lapped it up like it was tasty treats(r).
>> The Pentacon !!XucVlAk1mCB
>>185758
>>185735
>call the ACLU
>the ACLU
>ACLU
>ACL
>AC
>A
>A is for American
lol britain must be a shitty place to live. stupid chavs and bobbies.
>> Anonymous
>>185765

Oh I'm sorry - I was too busy watching America's Dumbest Criminals to notice what you said there.

Of course we have similar groups to the ACLU here - I just thought I'd better put it into simple terms so you could understand that we've been through 30 years of Irish terrorism (bombs and death - no really!). Then along comes America and it's terrorist panic and the stupid masses here milk it up.

You know the big difference between when the IRA was bombing us and now? Now there are less bombings and they've finally put some rubbish bins back in the tube.
>> Anonymous
>>185623
that sucks. i almost had that kind of experience when i was taking pictures in nyc but not to the point that they called the cops and wanted me to delete the photos though.
>> Anonymous
>>185778
Problem could have been solved if they'd fitted grinders inside the lids of all public bins!

A ground up bomb is no bomb at all :D
>> eku !8cibvLQ11s
Am I happy to live in Finland or what?

I can go anywhere I want, if I'm not stopped by some locked door or something, and photograph all I want. Any place I have a free access without restrictions, is counted as a public space. Bar, mall, shop, you name it.
Only thing bar (or mall, or someting else) owner can ask me to do, if they find my photography unpleasent, is ask me to leave. Nothing else. No one has a right to touch my camera.

And how I fear to come to USA next month with my camera... :(
>> Anonymous !SDPEsPMnww
>>186154
They don't have the right to touch your camera in the US either.
>> Anonymous
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>>185623

I was covering a this Dierks Bentley concert and was shooting him warming up. Got yelled at by his handlers and basically told that I wasn't allowed to take photos until he was actually performing and to GTFO.

Then it turns out we were only allowed to shoot from in front of the barricade for the first three songs so we didn't get anything of him looking too sweaty or outside of what image they want to present.

So of course, about three hours later when he's actually walking on stage, I forget and try to shoot him coming up and on stage and some 300lb gorilla puts his hand up against my lens. So I put my camera down and say, "Oh, sorry, I'll stop if you want." He then proceeds to spin me around and shove me out of the way.

Then I'm shooting from the barricade and the lights go down on the third song. I start to leave, but apparently it wasn't fast enough because another ape grabs me by the collar AS I'M LEAVING and starts hauling me behind him.

Buncha fucking douches. Handlers are always pukes. Chelsey Clinton's, however, had a tough time corralling me (and that was kinda fun)...

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>> Anonymous
Even in Finland, it seems to be forbidden to take photos in a music festival with a DSLR without the press card. You're free to take bazillions of photos with a point&shoot, but if the camera looks to pro they will take it away. Happened to me once, I naturally quickly removed the memory card.
>> Anonymous
I fail to see why photography is so bad seen now. Maybe it was the same back in the day, but now it seems that us photographers are some kind of terrorists or vicious perverts.
>> Anonymous
>>186177I fail to see why photography is so bad seen now.

Because, as the population of the world increases exponentially, so does the amount of stupidity.
>> Anonymous
>>186170
I guess they're allowed to make any rule they want about photography. And at least in some concerts, you're not allowed to take photos, period. Depends on the venue and band, obviously.
>> Einta !!MWv3ICYobCM
See, in virtually all of the western world:

If you are on somebody else's property: They can make surrendering your photos/camera/etc a _condition_ of staying. If you do not wish to surrender what is yours, you must leave.

They never get to say that you can't just leave with it. That is unlawful detainment. Also, taking your property is theft.

So as long as you're willing to get kicked out, you never should have to lose anything of yours. Of course, there are a few exceptions regarding British special police with MP7s or sensitive areas, but in general this is true. Even if your photography is classed as violating the "reasonable expectation of privacy" that others have, you're still fine until you publish.
>> Liska !!LIVFOETqL8j
>>185623

You cannot take photographs in a mall. It's privately owned property, not public, therefore not allowed.
>> Depressed Cheesecake !wFh1Fw9wBU
Don't take pictures in malls. Almost always you'll get in trouble.
>> Anonymous
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>>186244
Depends on the shop's rules. I work for a big chain of bookstores, and we have the "no shooting rule". Others don't. Small shops tend to care less about it, if you ask politely before.

Anyone seems to care about that rule in my company though, 'cept for the new security chipmunks. They seem to care more about people taking shoots than people stealing books, actually.

And that's why I'm taking my camera to work more often lately. My Yashica MAT confuses them though.

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>> Anonymous
>>186268
Little addendum: my mother runs a small toy shop and she doesn't care about people taking shoots of the shop.

If you wanna take shoots of a little shop, just ask the employee (which will be most likely be the owner) politely and nicely explain that it's just a shoot for your own. Most of them will understand.

In big shops, I will suggest just go ahead. Most employees (like me) won't give a shit, watch only for security wards.
>> Anonymous
>>186268
That reminds me, a few friends and I were out having fun at one of those outdoor malls. A few dSLRs, a few P&S's, cameraphones, and me with an old Canon AE-1. My friends with dSLR's who were just dicking around taking photos of us were approached by a security guard and were told that they needed a "photography permit" for "professional photography".

Ironic considering the ones with P&S's were doing street photography with their cameras in plain sight while some had cameraphones aimed at some of the establishments and they weren't questioned.

The guard was also confused about my camera because it looked big and yet looked old. He had this sort of helpless look on his face. In the end, he just left us alone after we told him these were just personal use and the furthest they would be published was on our blogs/albums.
>> Liska !!LIVFOETqL8j
>>186268

It depends on who/what company owned the mall the OP was shooting in. Most indoor, and even most outdoor malls don't like to have pictures taken.

if it looks professional, don't bring it in there. For better or worse, they ARE private property and they have the right to ask you to leave. It's the same with privately owned parking ramps- security has the right to ask you to either put the camera way or move on.

Dont' fight it or try to make enemies, just put the cam down and walk away. It isn't worth it IMO.
>> elf_man !!DdAnyoDMfCe
>>186278
It just bugs me that everyone pays attention to the big, obvious cameras, when it seems clear that anyone trying to plan something would bring a camera that's a hell of lot less noticeable. Like this guy describes>>186274
People go into museums and sneak pictures with their phone or a p&s, but they only bother to warn the ones with big cameras. It's like "ooh big camera" and common sense goes out the window.
>> Anonymous
>>186283
When ironically, most of us big camera users will most likely cause less trouble, no flashes, etc.
>> Liska !!LIVFOETqL8j
>>186283

The ones with the bigger, more professional cameras are more likely to try and get something published or attempt to make money off of the shots.
>> elf_man !!DdAnyoDMfCe
>>186287
That's true, but I'm thinking more in terms of actual security concerns.
And then other places like museums, where someone with a big obvious camera is less likely to try taking pictures because they know that their camera is big and obvious, but I constantly see people with p&s getting away with photos.
>> Anonymous
Fucking p&s.
>> Anonymous
>>186166

Chelsey Clinton's handler, you mean that one lanky guy that looked like a sophomore in collage?
>> Anonymous
OP you suck.
You should have just started running when they called the cops.

I'm guessing it took the cops a few minutes to get there, why the hell did you wait for them? The security guards have no right to restrain you... so... why didn't you run?
>> Liska !!LIVFOETqL8j
>>186288

there are different kinds of security. For example- the adminstration USS Midway is Angry at the SD Reader. You know why? They walked inside the ship with the girl for the 'cover story' shot several photos of her, didn't ask permission, then published it. Go read the reader & see what the story is if you want to see what the worse part is. I can't believe they did that!

Now, it;s possible that someone in security stopped them adn they said "oh, not for publication..." and look what they did.

Security is as much for peoples' safety as it is for reputation, image, etc. The tough part about malls also is this: there are copyrighted brands, designers, shoes, etc in the windows that if published or spread out too widely could cause harrasing issues for the property owners involved from those particular brands. Ever notice how when you see an ad for a mall they may list the stores, but you never see any logos or any specifics, aside from the mall brand name? that's precisely why. Liability sucks, but the issue's there.
>> Liska !!LIVFOETqL8j
>>186302

oh and in terms of the P&S's at the museum.. i cant' answer that. It varies on the museum, but photos shouldn't be allowed of copyrighted work.
>> elf_man !!DdAnyoDMfCe
>>186303
I agree, it just annoys me that they really only pay attention to people with big, obvious cameras and let people with small cameras get away with taking pictures.
>>186302
Yeah, same thing, I don't care that they don't allow photography, I understand why, it just bothers me that they seem to only pay attention to people with big cameras. I realize they're more likely to be the ones trying to make money, but the discrepancy is huge, and doesn't actually make sense.
>> Liska !!LIVFOETqL8j
>>186306

small camera=low quality/resolution=grainy=no publish
>> elf_man !!DdAnyoDMfCe
>>186307
Except that a lot of possible uses are printed quite small, to the point that image degredation isn't that noticeable, especially if it's processed right. 8mp, low iso, noise ninja. Obviously this depends on the situation, but it's totally doable.
>> Depressed Cheesecake !wFh1Fw9wBU
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>>186307
wat
>> The Pentacon !!XucVlAk1mCB
>>186314
That's not a small camera.
>> Anonymous
>>186314

... that's as big as a dSLR, you idiot.
>> sage !i/euDJmWr2
>>186318
a lot of DSLRs aren't really that big, though. It's not the size of a DSLR that makes people suspicious, it's that the general public thinks it looks like a "lol pro photog" camera.

Leicas are a lot more inconspicuous to the average person. They can pass as large point and shoots.
>> Anonymous
>>186321

ROFL

any time anyone says something large or big, you come in and try to justify it

whale alert
>> sage !i/euDJmWr2
>>186323
I like big cameras. I'm just saying all DSLRs aren't big. Rebels are fucking tiny.
>> Anonymous
>>186325
But they're much bigger than the average point and shoot.
>> Depressed Cheesecake !wFh1Fw9wBU
>>186318
>>186316
Leica M8
5.5 x 3.2 x 1.5 in

EOS Rebel XTI
5 x 3.7 x 2.6 in

Idiots.
>> sage !i/euDJmWr2
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>>186326
it doesn't matter. Some point and shoots are pretty big too, but they don't get mistaken for PROGEAR. The public just associates DSLRs more with that. Leicas and rangefinders in general, though, are quiet and don't appear "professional" to most people now, and the basic appearance of a rangefinder (especially the M8) is a lot closer to a P&S than a DSLR is.

also, regarding whale alert; see pic

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>> Anonymous
>>186283
I lol'd
>> elf_man !!DdAnyoDMfCe
>>186335
Yeah, and people mistake bridge p&s with dslr's. I've seen it happen repeatedly. We (since it was my statements and Liska's that kicked this part off) were speaking generally of p&s digital and cell phones. People see a black camera with that general shape (I mean really, it's what bridge cameras are desinged to look like) they think pro gear. And a rebel or d40 maybe be tiny, but they're only tiny IN REFERENCE TO OTHER DSLR'S. For crying out loud, compare that to your standard credit card sized coolpix that a random tourist or whatever is likely to have. Everybody stop nitpicking the technicalities and just think it through for a second.
True, people are less likely to think of a rangefinder as pro equipment, but that was outside the scope of my comments since most people would never consider them.
>> sage !i/euDJmWr2
>>186351
my comment was in reference to the people that think a rangefinder is going to be obvious like a DSLR.

And it wasn't that long ago that normal P&S cameras were as large as small DSLRs are now, the only major difference in size was the lens.
>> Anonymous
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>>186331

ROFL

fucking faggot

yeah, IT'S SO MUCH SMALLER GUYS

faggot
>> hatefag
>>186335

Hey do you want to come over to my place to look at some etchings?
>> Anonymous
>>186363
>fucking faggot
>faggot

Someone is insecure ...
>> Anonymous
>>186390

Someone's a faggot.
>> Anonymous
>>186335
M or F?

Either way, Do want!
>> Anonymous
i love america
>> Anonymous
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>>186318

o rly?
>> Einta !!MWv3ICYobCM
I love asking people if they want to see my etchings. Every once in a while you get a "I see what you did there" reaction.

Of course, I actually have etchings to show.
>> Anonymous
>>186500

Simple explaination.
Huge asian girl & tiny white guy.
>> hatefag
>>186503

Me too, actually.
But I think my linocuts are more impressive.
>> Anonymous
AmeriKKKa. Land of the oppressed and controlled. They will head the way of Russia and other hell holes soon.
>> Anonymous
>>186624


Oh lawd.

Troll harder.
>> Anonymous
>>186625

Keep dreaming and believing what your televitz tells you. One day you will wake up as I have.
>> NatureGuy !se3A3TwzdY
>>186629
o wow lol
>> Anonymous
>>186635

It will be my turn to laugh when I slam and lock the door on my shelter and I hear you banging on the outside of it with your skinny girl arms, begging to get in.
>> Anonymous
>>186642
Even if that was the case, how exactly would locking yourself in a bomb shelter be any sort of long term solution?
>> Anonymous
>>186645

I've got ten years supply of food in storage in continuous rotation that I've been building up. I made sure to get rice stocks before the price shot up and people were killing each other for a meal. You'll be starving in the streets or killing your best friend for a handful of bread while I am eating a healthy diet.

You'll be getting 800 calories a day if you are lucky.
>> Falldog !2qYdimqiHs
>>186244
But it's open to the public, and in most instances, treated the same as public property from the straight out. If they ask you to leave or stop then you have to abide by that as they have the right to throw you out. Unless they have posted signs that say no-photography of course.
>> Anonymous
>>186646


what the fuck /p/

sage
>> Anonymous
>>186624


it's in the UK


LOLOL
>> Anonymous
>>186298

Nah, this was a different one. Tiny brunette chick. It was so much fun ducking and dodging her as she tried to barricade me and this other photog as we walked up to get some shots because we actually had "pro cameras lol" (keep in mind, everybody else was smashed against Chelsey with their point and shits). I dunno why she didn't have any security hassle us, but then again the only guys around were local LE and (from what I heard from LE) a small Secret Service team back in the car.
>> Anonymous
>>186646
your house will be raided and you murdered before that
>> Anonymous
>>186500
least hes out shooting!
>> GSX
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Alternatively a friend and I were out at a mall parking lot around eleven or so with him hanging out of the lift back of my car driving in circles and didnt get hassled at all. Really depends on the kind of security guard you're dealing. Trying to paint yourself as complaint helps alot too, as has been said you should have just walked away from the situation when they told you to leave.

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>> Anonymous
Are the photogs who have been harassed by cops all from the US?

Im an ausfag and I can't imagine that kind of terrorist hypersensitivity here.
>> Anonymous
>>186863
QFT from the other side of the tasman.

walking down queen st(main CBD street of auckland) and all people do when i blatantly take their photo is just give me a weird look and walk off.
never have i been harrassed or even questioned by cops, rent-a-cop or even joe do-gooder.

fuck i love this country :D
>> Anonymous
I love how in AmeriKKKa the idea of exercising your rights is considered "suspicious."
>> Anonymous
I've gotten into a few encounters with police before, even last night, but they have never angry, not even go away. Just "oh, shooting photos. Alright, carry on."

Last night I left with a few friends to take pictures at one of their martial arts centers, then we went drifitng, and as soon as we left, a cop appeared. We stopped and got out to take some photos of him playing guitar under a street lamp at 2:30 in the morning and he stopped by and asked us what were doing. We just told him the truth, taking some photos. He's like, um. Right. He got back in his car and waited there for about 5 minutes looking at us before he took off, lol.
>> thefamilyman !!rTVzm2BgTOa
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>>186868
>>fuck i love this country :D
qft

police here will never harrass you for mearly taking pics of anything

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>> Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s
>>186964
I would have thought they would arrest you for being crooked.
>> Anonymous
>>186990
COMPOSITION POLICE
>> Anonymous
Fucking moron. Just pretend to delete them. What the fuck did you think was going to happen when you said "LOL FUCK YOU PIGS I WONT DELETE THEM WATCHAGONNADOABOUTIT HUH?"
>> Anonymous
>>186994
No, you don't delete the photos. However you DO cooperate with and be nice to the security guards and police officers.
>> Anonymous
>>186831

Good luck trying. I encourage you to do so as soon as possible, that way you can be removed from the gene pool before you spread your stupidity.

I expect most people are going to be as stupid as this guy, which is why I'll be surviving when the rest of you are starving and dying to bandits.