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How does anon feel about taking pictures of people without them knowing?
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>> Anonymous
Totally fine. Usually come out better that way.
>> Bew
Fine, as long as they are dressed

well, at least they are... wtf, it's just fine
>> Jeremo !iKGMr61IHM
wish i had a camera small enough and silent enough to do so.

But the D70s even with a 50mm makes a huge mirror slap sound on the train/bus/kindergarten
>> Anonymous
>>125823

In public I know there is nothing wrong with it, but I still feel self conscious about it.

I actually like using my 50mm f/1.4 in public because it just feels like it draws less attention to my camera. When I had the 24-70mm f/2.8L with hood on, people don't not notice.
>> Anonymous
Bunch of losers with no social skills.

It's very rude to take a stranger's picture without them knowing.
>> Anonymous
i've actually just started shooting fellow students around my university for a small people study i'm doing... yeah i get kinda self conscious also... i've been using a 55-200 af-s vr and people can always tell i'm taking pictures of them as they get closer. it helps me to wear an ipod so i kinda zone out and forget what i'm doing is a little awkward for myself and for the people i'm shooting.
>> Anonymous
>>125839
In fail americaville

In Asia and many other parts of the world it's not even worth thinking twice about.
>> Anonymous
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an example...

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>> Anonymous
>>125839
welcome to the world of street photography
>> Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s
I'd like to, but here in scouseville they dont seem to take too kindly to having their pictures taken if they spot you. I'd probably do better if i didnt dress as extravagantly (no im not a fucking emofag) but style > *
>> Anonymous
Grow some balls, you have the right to take pictures of whatever you want in public places. Takes the pictures and move on.
>> Anonymous
>>125823
Wait WTF are you doing in Portland, OR? I live around there...and why the hell would you take pictures of people on max?
>> Anonymous
I can't believe no one has commented on how fucking attractive that girl is.
>> Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s
>>125925
just say ib4 ac, its faster.
>> Anonymous
Personally I love shooting people on the street. Random people. You can come across quite interesting things.

Only problem, I'm still "camera shy" (in terms of taking the pics, not being in 'em), so I try to avoid the subjects noticing I'm photographing them.

That is easy with a wide angle, since hardly anyone -minus a fellow photographer- will realise they are in the camera's angle of vision.

Problem is, when you use something like a tele. Then it's damn obvious who you are "aiming" at. Even if there is some people that doesn't like being photographed, most persons will ignore you, meaning they won't complain or anything. But you loose the "spontaneous" look.

>>125876
No, you don't at least in my country, don't know about America.

Rather than not being able, there's a legal vaccum related to pics taken in public. Apparently anyone you take a shoot of could sue you/ask for the picture. At least here.

>>125925
Right you are.
>> beethy !HJGkSBB3Ao
>>125941
i lol'd
>> Anonymous
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Whether they know it or not, it doesn't matter.

Just press the goddamned shutter.

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>> beethy !HJGkSBB3Ao
>>125963
guy in the middle makes this shot win

to be a good street photographer you have to look and be beyond your normal polite boundries
this isn't easy for everyone
>> Anonyfag of Borneo !bHymOqU5YY
Be stalker-like. Camouflage yourself. Hide where you can, pretend to shoot something else while in the open.

Myself, I put on a \"Don\'t mess with me\" face.
>> Anonymous
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I took some shots in Urgent Care the other day. a little hard to be furtive enough.

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>> Anonymous
>>126049Be stalker-like. Camouflage yourself. Hide where you can, pretend to shoot something else while in the open.

And be reported to the local authorities for being suspicious-looking.
>> ken-t !wQS5KmrMzU
>>125956
I know for a fact that in USA and also here in Australia, you have the right to take photo's of WHATEVER YOU WANT as long as you are standing in public property.
(obviously you wouldn't start following someone and keep taking photos of them because that would be classed under harassment or something.)
As long as its not for Commercial (advertising) photography (so either News or Artistic) you can take as many photo's as you want and keep them and sell them appropriately.
>> Anonymous
>>126060
Well, no. You can indeed take photos of anybody in public, but you cant legally sell the pictures without the subjects permission. However there are plenty of loopholes. For instance, one can just claim that the subject is "street life", and not the person. Also, you are free to shoot and make profit of pics of anyone in a parade like on 4. july, and crowds or audiences.

Anyways.. No good street photographer actually follows these rules.

I am not quite comfortable with street photography, though I really wanna be. I always try not to be noticed to avoid awkward situations. If I have to get up close, I take the pic, avoid eyecontact, and walk away quickly.
>> ken-t !wQS5KmrMzU
>>126065
As long as it is "art" you can sell photo's of people in public.. even if its just the one person in the photo as the subject.. and sell the copies for thousands of dollars and not give a single cent to the subject a la Philip-Lorca diCorcia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nussenzweig_v._DiCorcia
>> Anonymous
>>125963
Would you mind posting a bigger version of this photo? I'd like to use it as a desktop wallpaper.
>> Anonymous
>>126066

Wow.. I guess youre right. Thats embarrassing both as a law student and as a street photographer.
>> Anonymous
>>125839

It's not illegal. You have no expectation of privacy in public.
>> g !SKSYCMGoGE
>>126065
It also really depends on the privacy laws of the location where you're shooting.

Here in France (lol) privacy laws are pretty tough, and you're not allowed to publish – even on your own website – a picture of a person without their consent. A famous case was Robert Doisneau getting sued by the couple seen kissing in one of his famous photographs; the couple won.

So people don't hesitate to get all bitchy from time to time when they think they might be in the picture you're taking, even if it's only illegal to publish – it's not actually illegal to take the picture. However, as someone else said, no good street photographer follows these rules, and a smile and a willingness to explain what you're doing goes a long way to insure cooperation.

Fortunately for us photographers all countries don't have such privacy laws. It's pretty easy to photogrpah on the streets in London or New York – you're more likely to get shit from security services than from people. And in poorer countries, people are way more open to being photographed, and even invite attention from the photographer...

Also, I can totally relate to camera shyness (>>125956). I've talked about it with some professional photojournalist friends who have a couple dozen years more experience, and the approach they take to get over the shyness (yes, it's still a problem with 20 years of experience) is to act as if they were invisible – that is to convince themselves that their subject cannot see them and act accordingly – or to convince themselves that, after all, everyone likes to have their picture taken, as long as they don't feel threatened. And guess when people feel threatened? That's right, when you're scared of them or of their reactions.

So street photography is as much about psychology and body language as it is about photographic skill...
>> Anonymous
>>126075
I think seconded.
>> ken-t !wQS5KmrMzU
What's everyone's opinions on street photography with a big DSLR?

I really want to start doing it.. but.. I'm worried my camera will scare people... especially here in Brisbane where it is unheard of for people to be walking around the city taking photos of randoms.

Should I get myself a small film camera?
>> Jeremo !iKGMr61IHM
>>126089

Just learn to conceal and not be suspicious. Act like it's your right to take photos.

If you act like a pedo, people will think you are one. Know what i mean?

But honestly, having something smaller is better.

Try your DSLR with a small fixed f-length lens.
>> g !SKSYCMGoGE
>>126089
It's not about the camera, it's about the approach you take. I did street work with a huge medium format studio camera and with a small compact, it's not such a huge difference.

A wide angle prime would be a better investment. People are scared off when the photographer seems like a creep (hiding behind a corner with a 400mm for example), not because his camera is large.
>> ken-t !wQS5KmrMzU
>>126091
>>126090
do you guys do it solo or go with a buddy? or both?
What is preferable..?
I'm thinking of doing it soon.
>> ken-t !wQS5KmrMzU
also, what's a good prime lens for street on 1.5 crop?
im guessing around 30mm?? or wider? 20?
or should I go for a 10~20 zoom?
>> Anonymous
>>126093
Depends. Winogrand used a 28mm, David Alan Harvey mostly used a 35mm when he still shot film, Cartier-Bresson used a 50mm.

Pick a focal length you like and stick with it.
>> g !SKSYCMGoGE
>>126092
Solo. One photog is less conspicuous than two.
>> Anonymous
i heard of a lens that has a mirror in it so you take a picture to the left of you, so the subject will know your taking a picture but assumes that it is in front of you.
>> Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s
reflex lenses help if you want to get the reach as it isnt as obvious where its pointing as its not xbox hueg and painted white.
>> Jeremo !iKGMr61IHM
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My street photography definitely needs improvment...

critique on this one?

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>> Anonymous
>>126100
I like the idea, but I would have preferred to see some more detail which indicated that it was actually raining( the guy looks completely dry!).
Also, I think I would have preferred a more frozen shot for everyone. I can't say for certain, but if I were to put my finger on things that I disliked, those would be some of the things.

There's clearly room for improvement, but I think you've got a photo which shows a lot of potential at the moment. Keep it up.
>> ken-t !wQS5KmrMzU
just a question...
is flash ever used in street photography? or is that a definite no no??
I'm talking hand-held walking-around street photography.
>> Anonymous
>>126095
Yet, with a budy you feel more confident to do some stuff.
>> Anonymous
>>126107
You can use it if you feel like it.

I know for exterior shoots with models is quite used. For strangers... that's another question. If some people don't like being photographed, imagine being flashed with a strong light.

You can use the advantage of temporary blindness to run like hell though.
>> Anonymous
>>126103

The umbrellas and wet ground doesnt say rain? Is that rain in the photo? or the grain?

I like the shot, it's not great the composition could be better. Were you tracking the guy?
>> Jeremo !iKGMr61IHM
>>126103

yeah fair call, i don't actually know how to capture raindrops properly. I was more focused on the one guy... i was actually following him... shame i didn't get the expression of the guy next to him cause they nearly ran into each other.
>> angrylittleboy !wrJcGUHncE
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>>126075
Here you go

>>126089
I use a bridge camera that looks and feels like a DSLR. Film cameras (like rangefinders) can be win, though.

When I started out, I had a buddy with me. Nowadays, I go out alone. Sometimes, I'd accompany someone who wants to try it on the street.

>>126107
Hell yes.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jkaranka/1221819925/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/waxypoetic/2160835554/in/set-72157603613041752/

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>> g !SKSYCMGoGE
Massive street win here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hinius/132078167/
>> angrylittleboy !wrJcGUHncE
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>>126100
imho, the photo suggests movement, but it's not quite that "dynamic". closer, wider and from a different angle, it might have worked.

Pic related and from http://www.flickr.com/photos/jkaranka/843917421/in/set-72157600954023447/
>> angrylittleboy !wrJcGUHncE
>>126120
It's a cool photo. Most of Hinius' late photos are a bit more subtle and it takes a good eye (something that's difficult for me to develop) to recognize the goodies behind them.
>> Anonymous
loving this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mexad/1647991286
>> Anonymous
>>126126
Another good example of flash on the street
>> 000jake
i think its a great idea. esp. when they're really fucking pissed/high.
>> Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s
>>126128
having "ILL SUE YOU IM A LAYWER YOU"RE INVADING MY PRIVACY" screamed at you is actually hilarious, esp when you're next to a bouncer who weighs more than you and them put together.
>> Anonymous
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzE39--PVl4&feature=related
>> Anonymous
>>126160

My mouse was hovering over the X when I saw "100% REAL AND UNPOSED" but I held back.

Until the selective desaturation was busted out. Fucccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccck
>> Sicko !L3HRY/miC.
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>>125869

Not quite up to full on busy street photography yet.

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>> Anonymous
>>126100
I like the sense of motion and the title. The only things I'd change- I'd not have all that big space off to the side, center the guy in the dark suit in the middle. A crop might work, somewhere over the umbrella.

I'm not on a calibrated monitor right now, so this doesn't mean much, but it looks here as if it'd do with a bit more contrast. Not much, just a little more snap, and again, this monitor is off, so, yeah.