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Who here still uses film? I have a shitty P&S digital, but I get better results with my old Nikon FM and 400 ISO film.
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>> Anonymous
i have the camera the next model up from the one in the picture - the Canon AE-1 Program. i still use it quite often.
whilst the digital era has its victories (the internet being one of them), no photo with a digital camera will ever be as gorgeous, as timeless and as beautiful as a developed film picture.
digital photography is for convenience and convenience alone.
>> Anonymous
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so i herd u liek film

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>> Anonymous
>>107291


I have those on an Minolta X-700 with a speedwinder (3.5 frames a second, baby.) and a PX-360 with a mount
>> Anonymous
I only use film. I have an A-1, EOS Rebel G and an EOS 1v
>> Anonymous
I use an EOS 20D for work, but I still have two Yashica GSN cameras that I use for black and white film.

http://www.photoethnography.com/ClassicCameras/YashicaElectro35GSN.html

Nothing digital will ever beat the classy grain and the sexy contrast from something like Tri-X film.
>> Anonymous
Didn't use film often before, but now I have access to a darkroom on campus.

I still love my Digital Rebel, but nothing beats developing and printing during the wee hours of the night.
>> Anonymous
Film only.

Bessa R, Nikon FG, Nikon N80
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
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I shoot film quite frequently and have a bigass pile of film cameras. Lots of Delta 3200 and Velvia, some crappy C41, polaroid, etc. Mostly 35mm, but I've shot my fair share of medium format, too.

>>107290
>>107298
ITT Luddite filmfags. Or possibly just trolls. So I won't bother arguing.
>> Anonymous
I shoot bw film mostly.
>> Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s
>>107302
I thought most people agreed that B&W film is still far superior to digital as it has a much larger dynamic range and resolution.

i.e. digital b&w on a colour sensor = 3x smaller res.
>> Anonymous
I use a film SLR camera and a digital point and shoot. I'm vehement about using a relative piece of shit if I'm not going to try to make every shot count( ie when using a lame point and shoot). Maybe when I suck less I'll go out and buy a DSLR, but that's not now.

So... *raises hand*
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>107310
Perhaps. But not for now and for always, as claimed by the people I was responding to. Technology increases at a double-exponential rate. I.e., not only is technology getting better exponentially, the rate of increase is increasing exponentially. Look at how far digital cameras have come since the 1MP digital SLRs of 2000.
>> Teus !QbSstcPD6U
stopped shooting film for a while. need to get 2nikon FM's repaired, and will buy a Leica once I get my first paychecks.

not too much love for C41 film, I don't really know how to use it well. E6 like astia/velvia is great. I mostly soup my own B/W film, since its cheap and nice.
>> Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s
>>107323
Yeah true, I hope someone makes a b&w sensor thats got similar properties to b&w film.

it would be awesome.

(i wish it was sony, just so you nikon guys can have it too)
>> Anonymous
>>107328

it would be even more awesome if that would be square format sensor
>> Teus !QbSstcPD6U
>>107328
Leica M8 has extended sensitivity into IR, and takes better BW photos.
>> Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s
>>107334
Is it a colour sensor?

All you want is a sensor that gives the brightness of each sensor in the same channel. This would be some sort of premixed one i guess. How does B&W film work?
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>107337
The leica does better B&W basically just because it acts like it's got a faint red filter on it at all times.

B&W film works by having a bajillion megapixel sensor, but with each pixel only storing one bit of information. Each grain is either exposed or unexposed. If it's had a certain threshold of light hit it, it's exposed. Otherwise, no. And most black and white films don't actually respond to all wavelengths of light (most are somewhat insensitive to red, I believe. The ones with 'pan' in their names are sensitive to everything. And they're a dying breed, if not already gone).

SO: While B&W can has crazy huge resolution, it *needs* that crazy huge resolution because it needs quite a few grains to represent any of the 255 values that a digital pixel can represent. Right now, film is winning because they can cram a lot more grains into a 24x36mm rectangle than they can pixels, so film can give you more range even with the dithering. But Moore's Law suggests that that won't be the case for much longer. It's already passed it for color, since these same facts hold for color (but times three, since it needs enough red, green, and blue grains rather than just enough black grains to equal a pixel)
>> fence !!POey2hdozCZ
>>107347

you're thinking of orthochromatic that's insensitive to red.

all black and white film you buy today is panchromatic, which means that it responds roughly the same to all colors, if not being actually a little more sensitive to red than blue.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
>>107352
Ahh. I guess they just stopped marketing it as specifically panchromatic since that's no longer an interesting feature. I stand corrected.
>> Anon
I use a D2Xs for a living, but when I have the time and determination I use a 93 year old large-format. The quality and sharpness I get on those sheets make the Nikon D2's results look truly, truly tiny. Not bashing the Nikon camera though, used that one in war zones and fifty degrees below freezing point.
>> Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s
>>107347
thankyou! Also explains why you used to use red filters.
>> Anonymous
>>107359
I to shoot with a DSLR at work, but on personal time I'd rather shoot with an old 4x5 field camera or a Leica. They're so much more fun to use.
>> Anonymous
>>107362
That's not why you use a red filter. Color filters, when used with black and white film, are for modifying contrast and changing black/white values. A red filter increases overall contrast while filtering out blue light, thus making skies darker.
>> Anonymous
>>107359
>used that one in war zones and fifty degrees below freezing point

i don't think you have a life
enjoy your d2xs
>> fence !!POey2hdozCZ
>>107359

let's see some photos.
>> Anonymous
>>107359

Oh yeah well, thermoelectrically cooled CCD sensor arrays used in telescopes make your 93 yr old large format camera pics look tiny... and they reach ISO speed equivalent speeds of the high hundred thousands, with zero noise.

And they only come in black and white.
>> Anonymous !MjcMqTX/iM
>>107404
They just cost over nine thousand.

filmfag here btw.
>> Anonymous
>>107302

not troll, not luddite.
i have a digital slr, and i use it a lot more than my film camera, because it's just convenient and i don't have a lot of money. i have about thirty used films in a bag in my wardrobe because i simply cannot afford to get them developed.
film > digital in so, so many ways.
>> Anonymous
>>107359
how the fifty degrees below 0 felt on your dick
>> thefamilyman !!rTVzm2BgTOa
>>107505
-50C is pretty cold, in fact i'm sure thats pretty close to the world record. Also, there aren't many places in the world that can get even close to that coldness, let alone there be a warzone om anywhere that cold. -30C i can believe, but no warzone in an area that cold.
>> Anonymous
-40C = -40F
>> Anonymous
>>107512
Ok so epic photographer man took the pictures at -50 ° F


Well he still has got balls

of steel
>> Anonymous
>>107515
Freezing point is 32 degrees. 50 below freezing is -18.
>> thefamilyman !!rTVzm2BgTOa
>>107525
maybe your calculator is broken...
(-50) degrees Fahrenheit = -45.5555556 degrees Celsius
(-50) degrees Celsius = -58 degrees Fahrenheit

anyway Fahrenheit fucked up, makes no sense.
>> ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA
The problem stems from the fact that he said "fifty below freezing", which doesn't really tell us anything without an indication of the temperature scale he's using. If it's Fahrenheit, it's
32F-50 = -18F (~=-28C).
If it's Celsius, it's
0C-50 = -50C (~=-58F)

So it's either -28C or -50C, which is a big damn difference.
>> thefamilyman !!rTVzm2BgTOa
>>107550
ah, you make a point. Then i state again, Fahrenheit fucked up
>> Liska !!LIVFOETqL8j
I still use film. I'm not exclusive anymore- but the more I use my digital camera, the more i think I should go back to film :)