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34-san
Mushroom slap.

Oekaki post(Time: 1 h 48 min, Painter: Shi-Painter Normal)
>> Anonymous
guess it aint so bad being a troll sometimes
>> Anonymous
Dude, draw more Haruko porn again! The dickgirl stuff is rather unfappable!
>> gundrake !3stw1O/bgU
>>56858
xbox size.
>> Anonymous
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34-san this is how you draw faces
>> Anonymous
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while this
>> Anonymous
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and this is how you SHOULD draw faces.
>> Anonymous
I actually really like the way he drew the face in this one.
>> Anonymous
>>56911
Not faces, but everything else - yes. 34's art looks like anime in western style, it's kinda... dead.
>> Grammar!Nazi !WokonZwxw2
>>56918
I'd agree with this. Your art is fine, it's just that the characters' expressions are like... blaaaahhh. It's like Disney or something. Except... dickgirls..
>> Anonymous
>>56921
The art isn't fine, idiot statements like this will make him go stale and stop getting better.
Practice more 34-san and you'll be good
>> 34-san
>>56931

Could you explain why it isn't fine? Vague remarks do nothing to help me improve.

>>56911

No.

>>56915
>>56918
>>56921

You're right, I should draw animu faces, because that's what all the cool kids draw.
>> Anonymous
>>56974
Your drawings have no soul lolz
>> Anonymous
>>56977
They have lots of dicks and lol. I welcome moar.
>> Anonymous
>>56974
I think what they meant was you can't go around drawing animu character and then not follow through on the style their face should be in. Putting a disney face on a Japanese anime character doesn't look right, like in:>>56911

I think that's what they meant.
And, also, you're a bit of a hypocrite don't you think, drawing everything else in "animu" style, just not the faces and then saying something like: >You're right, I should draw animu faces, because that's what all the cool kids draw.

Here's a less vague tip. Stay with one theme. If the body is animu, the face should be too.
If the face is western, the rest of the art style should be.
>> 56918
>>56991
Nope, that's not what i meant. I don't really care animu or not, his drawings are from pretty nice to really nice technically, but they are... well, dead. Can't explain myself well in english.

Also, about improving and the attitude, 34's kinda like animuister, only draws alot better.
>> Anonymous
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Emotear, bitches.
LULZ.

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>> ICI !E/izDXJg.Y
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did I fix it?

Oekaki post(Time: 8 min, Painter: Shi-Painter Normal, Source:>>56858)
>> Anonymous
Well I think you're all being dicks!
ROOOOBOT
ROOOOBOT
>> Anonymous
>>56999
Oh wow, you can't draw animu faces for shit, can you?
I think the problem with them looking "dead", is the fact that, well.. they don't seem.. I dunno. The faces look souless.
Don't know how to help. Seriously can't think of ANYTHING to advise you with.
>> Anonymous
>>56991
What the shit? How are his bodies "animu style"? 34-san may draw stale poses and stiff figures but he's not drawing "animu" style.

Also, fuck you weeaboo faggots who think everything's better with basketball eyes and a little slit for a mouth. God forbid someone draws your precious anime girlfriends in a different style.
>> /i/-nonymiss
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Make mine a dick in a box. God job on the delicious drama, too.

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>> Anonymous
You draw neither animu nor comic art you draw>>56911
this kind of stuff. seriously. Work hard on improving how you draw faces, being stubborn won't get you anywhere.
>>56915
Is a very good example for how to draw a sexy chick in any style
>> Anonymous
stop spamming /i/ with your dramafag GTFO
>> Grammar!Nazi !WokonZwxw2
Okay.. It's kind of like this.
Every time I scroll down /i/, I see some vague b&w image with the same sort of lineart with some chick with deliriously weird happy Disney eyes and a smile like someting out of Aladdin, weird boobs that I don't really like the style of [but that's IMHO] and, often, an ill-placed penis. Your style is just.. recognizable and tiring. Having a style is fine, it's just.. a kind of bleh style. It's like you have the potential, you're just not executing properly.


..That sounded like a football coach.
>> ICI !E/izDXJg.Y
>>57007
lol expert is talking to me
>> Anonymous
>>57064
but it's truuuue.
He already improved his lineart, if he removes his "lol animu" bias and learns hot to draw appealing faces it'll be great.
>> Anonymous
Am I seriously the ONLY PERSON who likes the way he draws faces? What the hell is wrong with you people? There is no technical problem with his faces. They're emotive and mostly clean. The proportions aren't bad, they're just not overtly animu. Stop acting like you know so damn much about art, the shit pouring out of this thread is almost too much to bear.
>> Anonymous
>>57129
You aren't the only one.
>>57064
Your comment is worthless for three reasons.
1)You are one of the worst regulars on this board.
2)You stated no way to improve the image other than "don't draw the way you do".
3)An ill-placed penis? There is never an "ill-placed" penis on 4chan. Besides, this is a dickgirl with a cock larger than her torso. I think the crotch is a pretty accurate guess of where it should be placed.
>> Anonymous
It's not animu, it's just stiff poses, flat perspective, and generally lifeless composition.
>> Anonymous
>>57135
You're not the only one. We're just not fag enough to join the drama.
>> Anonymous
She has nice balls.
>> Anonymous
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>>57129
>>57135
Way to hold him down and encourage him to stay a shitty artist.
The faces he draws are ugly and unappealing, the reason why you guys like them is because you are probably shitty artists yourselves and ugly art is non threatening to you.
He knows jackshit about facial anatomy, that's why it's ugly. Not because he doesn't draw them not in anime style.
>>56915
for example looks hot because the artist actually knows facial anatomy and bases his cartoon/anime face on reduced realistic anatomy.
>>56911
and
>>56858
look creepy because the artist doesn't know what he is doing.
As opposed to>>56913and
>>56915
And if you're too much of ignorant, racist biggot retards to get that check out adam warren or adam hughes who both are americans and stil manage to draw sexy chicks.
>> Grammar!Nazi !WokonZwxw2
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>>57135
Kthx, Anonymous- your words wound me to the core.

Okay, let me be specific. I see 34-San's faces and I think this.

Oekaki post(Time: 4 min, Painter: Shi-Painter Normal, Source:>>56858)
>> Anonymous
>>57150
How noble of you, attempting to save artists you don't even know from positive feedback. Everyone knows positive feedback makes artists give up improving every time without fail. Did you fail to notice that this is a picture of a girl smacking a guy upside the head with her penis? I have a sneaking suspicion that this wasn't intended to be fapped to. Even if it was, what credible advice did you give that denotes your holy than thou attitude towards others in the exact same situation as yourself. Did you think posting a picture by an artist that is better than the OP suddenly gives your anonymous name credibility? You say that the facial anatomy is all wrong, but you state no way to improve upon this. You say that the image looks "creepy" because of the artist's incompetence. Then you say to go copy other specific artists without confirming that is style the artist even wants to emulate. You filled with complete and utter bullshit, and your view of the role at this board you play is pathetically inaccurate. Leave.
>> Anonymous
>>57160
Unintentionally defending the OP's "style" doesn't make you high and mighty either.
>> Anonymous
I have an idea.
Sage this shit.
>> Anonymous
Shit people stop all this bullshit this /i/ not /ic/, so stop with all the bitching.
>> Anonymous
>>57167
sage goes in e-mail jackass
>> Anonymous
>>57083
Actually, yeah, I study art and animation, and happen to be pretty fucking good at it, so, yeah.
>> Anonymous
>>57179
damnit, all of my ageing was in vain
>> Anonymous
Nigga needs to improve, enough said.
>> 34-san
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Okay. Here's a quick sketch (hence the sloppy lines). Probably not fapping material, but I think it shows that I'm able to do sultry faces. This brings me to the OP: It's not supposed to be that erotic. If anything, it's supposed to be comical. If I used the face I just got done drawing, it wouldn't fit the theme of the picture. She's supposed to be happy/laughing and dominating towards the dismay of the guy she's cock-slapping, hence the expression, the placement of her arm, and the middle finger. She's not supposed to look like she's about to polish the troll's knob.

This doesn't mean that I'm oblivious to my flaws either, so don't think I'm being stubborn. I'm just not as shitty as some of you are trying to tell me I am.

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>> Anonymous
>>57160

Disregard that, I suck cocks.

Positive criticism is for faggots.
>> Anonymous
>>57223
The girl in the original pic just looks a little crosseyed.
>> Anonymous
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Advice time:
Try to give your drawings more structure, volume and shape.

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>> Anonymous
>>57227
Yeah, 'cause that looks sexy. =/
>> Anonymous
>>57236

it will, nubz0r
>> Anonymous
>>57236
Uhm... yes. It's the only path to draw something correctly sexy.
>> Rickz0r
>>57236
Weeaboo
>> Anonymous
>>57322
The more I think about it the more I wonder if weaboo is really an insult.
>> Anonymous
>>57223
i nevah said u were shitty :(
>> Anonymous
>>57324
Isn't much of an insult on a board with >50% weeaboos.
>> 34-san
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Hur hur, I am so awesome. I made new improvements! Hey /i/ I am mocking teh trolls. Har har.

...

Where is my hugbox /i/? They are saying mean things that have actual validity and reflect on my mediocre drawing ability.

;-; Tell them to go away /i/, their mean words sting make my feelings sad.

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>> Not Anonymous !fKQEDUyVRI
>>56931
Yeah here is the truth of the matter, /i/ is and continues to be a faggy little circle jerk hugbox.

It's like deviant art but with even more condescending attitude (see>>57083
)and endorsed by moot. Just check the response of practically every established oekaki namefag in this thread, they are going to support 34 because they are self centered fags that would rather keep a meaningless rep than help him develop as an artist.

Thats how this ass little backwards cuntscab or a board works. Sure Mac will claim that this is a great place for constructive criticism, but lets cut the bullshit people, if you care about this oekaki bullshit enough help your fucking friend out and help him develop his craft don't just say "lol, drama" like a hyporctical little shit that wants to brush their hands clean and feign laughter when you refuse to admit youre a selfish prick.

>>56858
Listen, I don't like you. You're one of the saddest little art fags in this boared because they give you a pat on the ass and you aren't even that good so look, take this personal if you need to but use it to inspire you.

Your bodies are stiff, you probably need to study more anatomy or at least draw out the spine line that dictates the bodies posture. When you draw female heads (Ive not seen enough of your males to know if you do it for them to) they are long vertically and the eyes and other facial features float in place. It's ugly. Start with the basic circle for the top of the skull and build on it. You arent a hopeless pile of shit, you will get good enough where you don't need the build guides, but the douchebaggery here is screwing you. Learn some fucking humility and realize that this place is AIDS and fail when it comes to help. Lurkers want hentai and practically every name fag here wants someone else to hug them. Sooner you stop lying to yourself, the better.
>> Anonymous
>>57349
Not Anonymous does not forgive =D
>> Not Anonymous !fKQEDUyVRI
>>57351
Life doesn't forgive, so either we shape the fuck up or just keep our heads up our asses and smell our own shit.

But you know what? What I said will either fall on blind eyes or get deleted by some "diligent" mod. Who the fuck knows, huh? Gotta try anyway, life isn't worth it if we don't fucking try.
>> Anonymous
So much drama about shitty cartoon scribbles.
But I agree:
Just practice more 34-san, you're shitty right now but you already improved a lot, you'll get good somewhen, if you keep improving and stop being ignorant towards criticism.
>> magi
Tell me again why we are trying to have serious critique on his dick girl instead of the Jame Bond picture?
>> Anonymous
i lke Cokx
>> Not Anonymous !fKQEDUyVRI
>>57355
Because this fag of the fold thought he'd get some lulz by trying to mock the trolls that told him the truth. Unlike you and the rest of the other /i/ cunts, he isn't so full of himself that it looks like his pride can be wounded and he isn't a hopeless piece of shit like you and your comrades. If he isn't so fucking full of himself it means he can tear down some bullshit notion that he is the shit and strive to make better art.

Get the fuck back to /34/ you worthless fuck and and shit out some transparent hentai with ridiculous rib detail, and stop saying you're busy when your fagging it up here with the other pretentious fucks here.
>> Anonymous
>>57357
gb2/yoga/
>> magi
>>57357
You seen to get work up about everything huh? why is this so important to you? :3 Oekaki by its nature are all pretty transient, it is the type of art that is suppose to be done on the passing, and it is suppose to be fun. Naturally, that doesn't mean it couldn't be technically challenging. Although I personally think being so dead set on specific stances and principle over dick girl drawing is rather interesting. Its difficult not to perceive the absurdity of such drama. I don't remember saying anything to the effect that I am better then other people, I don't understand where you get that idea.
>> Not Anonymous !fKQEDUyVRI
>>57361
This isn't worked up fucktard, this is speaking to complacent douches like you in a way that you actually see instead of glossing the fuck over it like it's just an impopular opinion in a sea of empty praise. If youre vapid enough that you think its because its a dickgirl then its no surprise you dont see how much of a twat you come off as. I wont be able to say much more to you until spring break, I am just going to be soooooo busy otherwise. Tell you what, bitchface, I'll make you a second welcome thread though and you can celebrate again how great you are in it.

Protip: Speaking civil and conducting yourself in a fair manner does jackshit when people can tell it's a front.
>> Anonymous
lol at Internet fight
>> Anonymous
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Enjoy the show.

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>> Anonymous
>>57365
Are those supposed to be popcorns? Gtfo, untalented fucktard.
>> magi
>>57363
Indeed. :3
>>57362
Well, if the real issue is about 34-san's growth as an artist, I personally think your intent as stated sounds admirable. Although you come off rather like a lose cannon from time to times, and I think condescending attitude won't help anybody improve. You can still be firm and critical when you critique, but understand that you still have your credibility on the line. This is suppose to be an 18+ website, acting like high schooler won't help you with that. I like the fact that you had given specific critiques, however, I wonder if the way you let lose really makes the whole thing into a bad experience. I believe that people improve by doing more art and while doing so explore new concept and techniques, improvement also comes from discussions and sharing of techniques between different artist that learn from each other, as cheesy as this concept might sounds. Fruitful exchange of ideas doesn't really happen if every critique ends in shouting match.

Although that doesn't mean firebrand like you isn't interesting to see from time to times. :3 However, it would make it easier to have normal conversation if you stop acting like ones in which you so despise.

For your information, I first started posting Oekaki here when my spring break starts, and now is about to end. ;_;
>> kekekeke
OH SHI- DRAMA! the arguements of not anonymous would hold water if he knew wtf he was talking about, do continue lawls *golf clap*
>> Anonymous
I like how
>>57227
the only helpful non insulting criticism in this thread was mostly ignored
>> Anonymous
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Don't forget the drinks.

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>> Anonymous
>>57375
lol internet
>> 34-san
>>57355

Because that picture is better and should probably be taken more seriously than my goofy retort against some people who don't like dickgirls.

>>57349

Noted. Your other post got deleted, but you mentioned that you thought this pic was intended for people giving me criticism. It wasn't. I think you're missing the point of the drawing: it was a intended for trolls giving me shit about the dickgirl drawings that I do. I guess you jumped to the conclusion that I would react in an immature and juvenile manner towards criticism, because I'm such a headstrong and shitty artist. You're wrong, it was a juvenile reaction towards anti-dickgirl people. That isn't even really that important anyway, it's not like I'm some furfag who bawls everytime someone speaks ill of my fetish. It's not like I'm drawing a dickgirl crying with a rainbow flag behind her, with some quote that says "One day, we'll be free." I'm just sort of fucking with people who are probably trolling my threads. Internet isn't serious buisness to me.

I do take criticism seriously though. Again, I'm not oblivious to my flaws, and if the shit I've done in the past is any indication of how I can improve, then eventually I'm going to be able to draw something and not have the thread span over 50 posts with people telling me the one thing I did wrong. Don't give up on me yet.
>> Sketchychan
>>57391
internet drama, tl;dr
>> Anonymous
>>57402

oh sketchy i love you-- let's hang out, You're not ugly though right?
>> Anonymous
>You're not ugly though right?

I wouldn't get your hopes up
>> Anonymous
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>>57420
>> Not Anonymous !fKQEDUyVRI
>>57391
Oh yeah I am sure some sensitive oekaki mod saw "Mean person cussing on 4chan" and thought this abnormal post should be deleted. Nah, I probably won't give up on your pathehtic ass. At least not so soon. Read through what I said cock mongler and you'll see I didn't make any assumption of how you'd respond but if I were going to make an assumption I would've guessed it was sort of like how you did or like how Magi responded, real "proper" like to hold up apperances. People here care far too much about reputations to give you real criticism and it means a corny filled turd to pretentious name fags like yourself when an Anonymous says something. And your hands aren't clean in this matter, you made this picture to be a fag and bicker visually at trolls, any idiot knows whats going to happens if you bait a troll.

So yeah use the structure guides for heads. That Haruko picture of yours didn't suck balls because Haruko's face is repugnantly arranged to begin with and with her looking headon at the viewer they didn't seem to float as much. I've seen what you drew in the past, there hasn't been much improvement and it sucked. But you drew so much the name fags here gave accepted you. You'll get the hang of it, fuckface. Just remember these people are to busy thinking about their own reputation or that Oekaki's are "fun and lulz" to tell you what you need to hear.
>> magi
>>57443
I like how "internet tough guy" is lecturing us about holding up a front to maintain a reputation.

I am not sure what type of "reputation" that you think I am trying maintain. :/ I admit that Haruko thread is rather pandering, but that doesn't mean I didn't have fun. But then, doing Oekaki seen to be a life and death issue for you, although I do wonder why I don't see you hang out at /ic/ recently. Or maybe you were just posting as anonymous.

If there is something that I like, I'll say that I like it. If I feel something that needs to be critiqued, I'll write up something for it. In principle, I think its important to tell people what they needed to hear, and nothing that they DON'T, latter of which you likes to do a lot in your abrasiveness.

Besides, don't you ever feel that it would be easier if all the clutter surrounds the critiques isn't there? Maybe focusing more on the real issue, namely the art itself? If you really care so much about art then why all the put downs? Does it make you feel better about yourself?
>> Anonymous
Of course people are not going to improve if all you do is compliment them and tell them what they want to hear. Doing the opposite doesnt automatically give you credibility, because trolls are capable of offering criticism but it doesn't mean they are not trolls. If you critique something and add a shitload of insults to it your not helping anybody, you are not going to motivate someone to improve. So if your going to troll anyway realize what you are doing and dont diguise it as trying to be helpful.
>> 34-san
>>57443

>Read through what I said cock mongler and you'll see I didn't make any assumption of how you'd respond

I would, but that part got deleted because all you did was flame, kind of like how you're doing now. The only diffence between you and a regular flamer is that you throw in some half-assed advice to try and cover your trolling.

>People here care far too much about reputations to give you real criticism and it means a corny filled turd to pretentious name fags like yourself when an Anonymous says something.

You're calling me pretentious? I'm sorry, who's the one that's being condescending towards everybody and declaring that he's the only one here who's being honest and helpful? Do you even know what the word pretentious means?

>And your hands aren't clean in this matter, you made this picture to be a fag and bicker visually at trolls, any idiot knows whats going to happens if you bait a troll.

No, what will they do? Will they scope out my drawing for imperfections so that they can rip on them throughout the thread?

>That Haruko picture of yours didn't suck balls because Haruko's face is repugnantly arranged to begin with and with her looking headon at the viewer they didn't seem to float as much
>> Thread over ^_^ ICI !E/izDXJg.Y
This thread is brought to you by Jack's Joke Shop (in South Attleboro, Massachusetts) Remember, if it ain't funny, it ain't worth Jack. Back to you 34-san =3
>> Anonymous
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I loled.

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>> Not Anonymous !fKQEDUyVRI
>>57483
See now why'd you have to go and get all butt hurt? Things were going so well. Fine I'll do you a courtesy and not swear this time. Maybe it was in the part that was deleted, but I explained that I throw the inflammatory language in there because people who are complacent with their skills aren't jolted by anything but something outrageously harsh. If I were a troll out for lulz and goating people, I would've addressed Magi's last post and mocked him for not remembering why I am being an "internet tough guy," but I'm not here to flame. I am aware of Snapesnogger and other deviantArt fags. In fact I've personally tried to help SnapeSnogger but she wigged out all over herself very much like you're doing now (and I didn't even swear when I spoke to her, imagine that). In fact SnapeSnogger herself has a following of fans that support her and act as her hugbox and keep her from becoming "an hero" as Anonymous would like her to (can't tell yet that I follow invasion boards?) /i/ tends to act like deviantArt in that they become hugboxes that retard some artist's development.

Just because I criticized Haruko's character design doesn't mean I am belittling your effort. Think critically will you? The character has a goofy ...almost stupid face. She is supposed to be "animated" but I half think thats just an excuse for them to make her eyes, nose and mouth jump all over the place. Somes times her eyes are so large they overlap the second tone shadow on the sides of her head, othertimes they are smaller and lower on her face that it looks like she'd have a giant forehead. Or her nose has an awesome curve to it but othertimes its reduced to only two nostrils slits with no structural shadow to creates shape. What can I expect though from a show that cut corners left and right and goes as far as to break down an entire detail rich scene into little more than panning a camera of the pages of a manga?
>> Not Anonymous !fKQEDUyVRI
People say awful, mean things and often times you don't have a mod to make them go away and many times those mean things have a ring of truth to them (otherwise you wouldn't get offended and easily dismiss it). Not everyone that is an ass is a troll. Like I said, think crticially, I am tired of having to explain this. You said that I should not give up on you yet, and I don't intend to but keep belly aching about things and I am going to eventually get tired of responding.
>> magi
>>57508
>>57507
See, You can sound perfectly reasonable if you wanted to. :3 I don't understand the mentality that people feel that they need to be angry to improve though. I mean, if you were to critique my work in this tone, I think it would be perfectly acceptable, and I gladly make change accordingly if it makes sense to me base on sound artistic principle or empirical comments.

Although whenever you post you sounded like you have a personal vendetta.
>> Anonymous
I can't even fucking believe this thread is still going. I left for vacation like 4 days ago and you all were bitching like down syndrome kids.
>> magi
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>>57522
Oh yeah~, it just keeps on going and going and going...

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>> Anonymous
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Given the content in this thread the rabbit should be beating the drums of war.

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>> Anonymous
>>57533

I thought he was stroking his harbl at first in the thumb.
>> Anonymous
you have that teabaggin pic? I didn't save it when I had the chance.
>> Anonymous
>>57227
look how the only contstructive, not retarded criticism was COMPLETELY ignored by 34-san as well by the trolls.
>> Anonymous
>>57544
quiet you!
>> Anonymous
>>57227
I didn't ignore you. I love you.
Fukken saved.
>> Anonymous
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<3

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>> Anonymous
Ye Gods, this is epic. Ole! Flame to the death senior Troll!
>> sage Anonymous
faggots
>> PandaBurr
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you've angerd me anonymous go back to gaia where you belong!

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>> Anonymous
>>57793
Nice tonberry rip-off. You Suck.
>> Anonymous
God you fucking suck. Go back to /d/ faggots.