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Anonymous
Dear /i/

How do I draw well? I can't afford drawing classes right now, nor a tablet, I hate drawing a mouse so I have lots of paper and a pencil, but I'm not very good with drawing, I want to be able to draw a full figured person without it looking like a 2 year old did it. So what can I do to improve myself? What were your methods that helped you?
>> Anonymous
>>125795
draw tons and tons. I never had anything more than observational skills and a couple beginning drawing classes which taught me nothing that I didn't already know. tablets don't make you draw better, they just transfer what you can draw on paper into digital work. They are not the answer to good art.
>> Anonymous
>>125798

I should have meant that I didn't have a tablet so I would be able to draw on it without having to use pencils and paper. But as you say draw tons and tons, wouldn't I need to learn about the human anatomy which could help me a lot, the tracing stuff doesn't seem helpful if I don't no shit about Anatomy, I'm going to use this e-book that I downloaded called Fun with a pencil by Andrew Loomis.
>> Anonymous
>>125804
As said by previous anon, observational skill. Observe and pay attention to shapes, forms and the structure of everything you see, all the time. Mimicking comes first, creativity second. Don't trace, study drawings by eye and duplicate what you see in future drawings.
>> Anonymous
>>125804
Loomis is good, rapidsearch for his other books as well. Read, study, learn. It will take a few months before you notice any difference, and a few years before it starts looking good.
>> Anonymous
>>125824
YEah, that's what I was trying to say, but you said it a lot better
>> Anonymous
use references

find a book that teaches you how to draw from a reference
>> JerkDouglas !!SAcUcxcIAJA
Drawing from reference is so kickass, once you start to study the musculature, you can make some really convincing forms.

It's obvious I don't take my own advice, because while it's helpful, it's really just not fun at all.

DRAWING IS PAIN.
>> JerkDouglas !!SAcUcxcIAJA
Oh, and I forget everything I study if I don't do it constantly. Some people don't have that problem.
>> Anonymous
>>125829
woah what? if you're going for months without ANY noticeable improvement then you're doing something wrong.
>> captain !v/rTh0HxaQ
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>> Anonymous
>>125824
I disagree with that.

Sometimes people with no skill at all pull off some impressive stuff. Munche probably didn't need very much figure training to paint the scream.

It all depends on what you're trying to do with your art.

But still, the OP is obviously not very interested in abstract stuff so, yeah, go learn to draw photorealisticly.
>> Anonymous
>>125868
Well, alright. But if you keep working, you'll see the difference from month to month.
>> Anonymous
>>125795
FRANK
>> Anonymous
>>125872
yeah, there are a lot of completely different skills involved in drawing, though /ic/ will try to tell you that anatomy and figure drawing is the only thing that matters.
>> Anonymous
>>125872
Because no one but skill-less pretentious postmodern fags considers abstract art as anything near amazing or revolutionary.
>> Anonymous
>>125887
depends on how abstract we're talking
>> JerkDouglas !!SAcUcxcIAJA
>>125868

Yeah, to tell you the truth. You sit down with a book full of figure drawings, you might be better by the end of the night. But you just gotta keep your head on the game and COPY THAT SHIT.

I do it for a few hours, and then I'm magically infallible. And the next day I'm back to where I was before. Which is kind of gay.
>> Anonymous
Just take your time, even if it takes fucking weeks to finish 1 drawing, don't bother about "doin' it in 10min zomg".. everyone has their own pace. Oh and take some breaks once in a while to check out the process in general, thats probably where I fuck-up the most (overdoing some specific area) ._.
>> Anonymous
tracing helped me a lot.
I traced a lot, and eventually I could just draw without tracing. It's a miracle
>> Anonymous
>>126813
wrong. The more time you spend on a drawing, the more frustrated you'll be when it still looks like shit a month later when you're dead tired of dealing with it. It's best to time yourself and measure your drawing quality and speed at the same time.
>> Anonymous
>>126835
No, pray to the drawing gods and tithe to the national church of art.
>> Anonymous
>>126835
You're right if it's /i/ we're talking about, spending more than a few hours on a picture is overkill. Even if it's a serious CG, spending more than a day on the sketch and lineart itself is too much.
>> Anonymous
Get out of here, stalker!
>> Anonymous
>>126833
LIES