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ACROSS
Fuck it. I'm not spending another second on this shit right now. I can't even move my fucking pinky finger anymore and this is all I have to show for it.

It's supposed to be Excel. My first time drawing her; had to use a reference pic to do it, too.

I probably would have been better off leaving it as lineart, but it just felt too empty. Coloring obviously didn't improve it any.

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>> ACROSS
Fucking hypno-toad eyes, too.
>> Anonymous
ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOEXCEL
>> Anonymous
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More Excel is always nice I guess.

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>> ACROSS
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BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

>>91997
Also, fuck yes. Love her to death, but that's what made drawing her so tough because I'd worry about fucking it up. I'd be happier seeing other people draw her but she just doesn't get any appreciation.
>> ACROSS
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Went back and shaded the hair and nose to see if that improved it any.

The only part I have a serious problem with now is the eyes.

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>> Anonymous
>>92012
and the hair and everything else
>> Anonymous
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Don't shoot until you see the whites of her eyes.
>> ACROSS
>>92029
......... I really can't believe I didn't think about that. Mind if I steal your idea and try to clean that up a little bit?
>> Anonymous
>>92033
It's your image, I'm just trolling.
Seriously though, observation is the key to replication. Facial proportions (including iris size) are essential for maintaining a human appearance.
>> ACROSS
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>>92034
Yeah. Like I said, I was using a reference pic, and Rikdo does his eyes in a real particular way. Not to mention they were hard to make out on the pic I used. Actually, in fact, here's the pic it's based off of.
>> Anonymous
>>92034
ANIME
>> ACROSS
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>>92036
Posting another one to give you a good idea of Rikdo's style, and because it's just fucking hot.
>> Anonymous
>>92039LOL
Even in anime body proportions need to be kept in a certain framework. Mismatched body shapes quickly lead to inhuman appearance.
This is how do they make those awful anthropomorphic cartoons (animals as people) and still have the characters conveying human expression. Dogs, cats, and frogs do not look human until their features a nudged around to human-like shapes enough to pass for furries.
>> Anonymous
this is how most FAIL. by "tracing-by-looking".
iF you dont understand its shape then all your'e doing is copying a flat thing already distorted by your mind
>> ACROSS
>>92047
Mmmmmmmyep. That's pretty much the long and short of it.

This is why I don't bother with fanart. Were I to do it by memory alone, you wouldn't be able to recognize it at all.
>> Anonymous
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>>92043

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>> J
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I was kinda inspired by the original picture by ACROSS in this thread, using only solid colors and solid pen, so I tried out that too!

And I felt nice so I contributed to the thread since ACROSS seems like a nice guy. :)

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>> Anonymous
>>92061
oh you
>> ACROSS
>>92061
Now if only I had some of that elusive little thing called talent.

Appreciate it, though.
>> J
Ack, I don't have any talent. I just kept drawing and drawing and trying to improve. :P And well, it worked, but seeing errors in your own drawings is good, you know what to improve on if you can see the errors! :D

Just keep on drawing and practicing, studying anatomy and etc.. And you will be surprised over how fun it is as you get better and better!

But yah, I kinda like Excel btw.
>> Anonymous
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tried to fix it a little..

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>> Somewhat !rK4K86e49M
Good Excel, you look kinda dental aenesthetic
>> harro
...

the differences between this board and /ic/ are just mindblowing.

ACROSS, a word of advice. Unless you have absolute confidence in your ability to draw something, don't just start by drawing the outline form. There are layers in Shi-Painter, so no harm in using them.

Using a lighter colored pen sketch out what you want to draw. It can be as messy as you want. Then, set the opacity a bit lower and draw ontop of it on layer above it. Do this with a darker pen. This will allow you to see some of your mistakes and to improve and correct faster.

Also try to use basic shapes when doing the initial sketch.

I know virtually nothing about this program, but that technique is pretty universal.
>> ACROSS
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I wound up taking the time to go and try to draw Excel sans ref pic, and this is the result. Warped, basic, and with a messed-up face. The hair isn't complex enough, I couldn't work up the patience to color it, and it's still sketchy as hell.

BUT AT LEAST I BEAT ANONYMOUS TO PICKING IT APART. :D

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>> ACROSS
>>92094
>>92103
Oh, fuck. I guess not.

Anyway, I used layers. I just started with the outline first and set the coloring under it to keep it within the lines. I didn't use the same program as this last one (which I wound up using by mistake, I might add) but the same properties should have applied. I didn't have enough certainty with the program to start with the coloring, or with a thin outline.

My problem isn't so much in knowing what I want to draw, it's unsteady hands. I don't remember why the fuck it is, but I can't draw a straight fucking line. Might be the way I hold a pen, but I've tried different ways and it's just made it worse.

As for /ic/, I didn't want to post there because I know the majority of things that are WRONG with my drawings, it's just that I'm not quite sure how much I can actually improve on them yet. Redlines don't help someone who can't follow them without turning it into something sketchy/jagged/curvy.
>> ACROSS
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>>92106
Also, I feel like telling myself to become an hero with all my fucking BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWing. Fuck.
>> Anonymous
>>92106

Drawing straight lines isn't your problem. True, it makes things harder, but it's not the problem you should focus on.

Just by drawing more things your hands will become much steadier. It's something that will happen with time.

What you need to focus on is making sure you aren't drawing something a certain way just because you saw it somewhere else and liked how it looked. Try and think of *why* you are drawing things that way. Also, as a previous poster said, try and think of the normal proportions for a human, even when drawing in a stylized manner.

And again, draw a sketched out under drawing. Just by viewing your animations I think that would help you alot. It should give you more confidence about where you'll put your final lines as well.
>> ACROSS
>>92118
Makes sense, but it's gonna take some tries before it actually starts working, I think. It's a shame I don't have more time and patience to devote to this stuff, but it might not be a bad idea to consider making time. I appreciate all the advice, and even that bit about the dental anesthesia. Hopefully I'll be back with original content of better quality.
>> J
Yup, just keep drawing. Also, I might add that I am alot shakier drawing digital than on paper. I'm not that 100% with digital, paper is still more natural (duh!) and precise for me as a drawing medium, but I prefer digital somewhat because I can easily color and just fool around without smearing or something, try out a wide array of tools etc.

But just as the previous poster said, skill comes with practice and that will also help improve your shaky lines and your general skill, but yes, the key is to think why something is drawn as it is, how does that arm bend and what muscles make it look that way. Understand the body and how it works is to understand how to draw it too.

Don't worry, we all suck sometime, but we all strive to get better, and as long as you do Across, practice much and devote yourself to drawing, studying anatomy and other peoples pictures is a good way to get going. It might sound tough, but it's the same as playing games, you do it because in the end, it's all about fun.

But yeah, I'm blabbing too much! I should draw something instead! :P
>> m.
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ppppppp

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>> Anonymous
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Ew, too much of senior Excel in this thread.
You know, she can be such a stuck-up BITCH sometimes! Yesterday, when I was taking a shower, she just SHUT OFF the hot water, and --

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>> Anonymous
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What was that??
Know your place, brat!

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>> ACROSS
>>92239
<3
>> J
Doublish combo! Ah, lovely pictures. :3
>> Anonymous
Needs moar Excel oekaki
>> drill hair kekekeke
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>> ACROSS
>>92400
I lol'd.
>> Anonymous
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>>92400
The international committee of Across approve of this.

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>> ACROSS
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Okay, did a total overhaul of my original post, completely redid ALL trouble areas, etc. I basically redrew the whole damn thing.

It looks better, but I can still notice some issues. I'm pretty satisfied with this outcome, though. Thoughts?

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>> Anonymous
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It's definitely better. You just need routine and practice. And better speed, god damn it.

Here's hoping book 16 will be released soon... I hope for an epic showdown.

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>> Anonymous
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drewd sum fanart

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>> Anonymous
>>92579
Oh yeah :D
>> ACROSS
>>92567
I already have it.

>:3
>> Anonymous
no excel hentai?
fail
>> ACROSS
>>92627
There IS a depressing lack of it out there.

But be honest, you don't want ME trying to draw her naked. It would kill any possibility of an erection.
>> Anonymous
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meh, not that great but there you go
>> Anonymous
Bump for moar
>> Anonymous
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"So many requests for shabby senior Excel?
I, Elgala, will show you a real woman!"


(never mind the time here, TV aired a whole night of damn high quality anime, had to watch)

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>> Anonymous
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"What the hell is she doing..?
Hey, did Lord Ilpalazzo give her that computer?
Kids these days..."

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>> Anonymous
>>92860
I like how she's just camwhoring to a moniter.
>> Anonymous
>>92865moniter
>> Anonymous
>>92865
Hey, no one taught them about the internets.

"What does IT stand for?"
"Uh.. Internet... Trolling..?"
>> ACROSS
>>92860
I suppose they all have their private hobbies, though.

Elgala camwhores.

Excel gets off to her cardboard Lord Il Palazzo.

Hyatt........... Uh. Whoa. Maybe that's just better left....... Yeah. No.
>> Excel has a badly referenced ass. J
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What the subject says is true, ugh, I failed on this one and it didn't work out any better either, so I just slapped on some colors and totally forgot about the fingers when I pushed upload. So I'll do something nice now instead. Ughhah!

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>> J
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Excel was young.

And looked nothing like herself. And coloring was shit too.

J was sad.

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>> ACROSS
>>93076
She's adorable but she needs to get out in the sun more. :[
>> Anonymous
Oh god she's whiter than me and I'm a pale indian.