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Hey /hr/ I'm a Iraq and Afghanistan Veteran, and I'm sick of the U.S. media playing peek-a-boo with dead and wounded U.S. service members. While I was deployed I met more skilled photographers than I probably will the rest of my life. I want to see every photo of a wounded or dead U.S. service members you have from these current wars.

I want the public to know the cost of this war, they need to see these photos.
>> Anonymous
you're no soldier. shutup hippie
>> Anonymous
>I'm sick of the U.S. media playing peek-a-boo with dead and wounded U.S. service members.

I bet you cream your pants whenever they proudly display the running total of killed or wounded. Show some respect for people who risked and lost their lives so you could jack off in your mother's basement all day.
>> SAGE SAGE
You should be ashamed of your self.
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>> Anonymous
>>379777
so do you like to willingly kill people or is that just secondary to sleeping with men?
>> Rex Kingman
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>>379928
he may be a troll but it's George Bush who hides our fallen to pursue BIG OIL profits.
>> Anonymous
>>380029
take an economics course, retard. Stop listening to what hollywood tells you.
>> Anonymous
>>380031


I read several newspapers each day and read History for fun. Nothing new about the NEOCON lies, tyrants have used the same waving of a bloody flag for centuries.

where's Binny?

Sept. 11th 2001
July 1st, 2008

way TOO LONG!
>> Anonymoose
>>380028

Bottom right hand corner.

Dark negro is daaark.
>> Anonymous
>>380034
While its true, politicians do indeed use false patriotism as a means of going to war, Bush isn't getting a cutback from increased oil prices, the supply of oil is decreasing, and while it can still meet demand, it is becoming a scarce commodity, increasing its price.

Oil companies aren't in some kind of price fixing scam, there isn't a bunch of greedy execs in a smoke filled room trying to set prices.
>> Anonymous
>>380029
Canada supplies over half your oil, retard.
>> Anonymous
>>380059
yet OUR prices are higher than yours!! Fuckin lucky americans..
>> Anonymous
>>380064
i'd love to move to canadia, but i'm afraid of the bears 'eh.....

jk, but seriously, the main cause of the rise in oil prices is that more people have middle class jobs, and because of this, more people have the ability to buy cars, and because of this, more people are using oil, which in turn causes a ris in demand, which also causes a rise in price...

as this happens, more people will cut back on their use of gasoline, which will in turn lower gas prices over time...

because of all of these things, we will eventually start seeing more electric and other types of vehicles dominating the road...

it won't be much, but it will be enough to cause the exec's at the automobile companies to start thinking about other ways to power a vehicle...
>> Anonymous
>>379842
you're very naive. We support the victims of the faked Bush OILWAR and that includes the men he killed for greed. Mission fucking ACCOMPLISHED George.
>> Anonymous
>>380070

those cars and people were all in place when this climb in oil prices began over 3 years ago. Big Oil intentionally bought alternative energy companies but sat on development. They refused to build refineries because a refinery fire can be the excuse for high prices for many months. The speculators prove a market can be manipulated. Even the Saudis say there is adequate supply so don't tell us the market is self correcting.
>> Libertyfries
as a French (you know, the ones who've been tald cowards by bush propaganda because they didn't want to go to this bad war for bad reasons..)
, when you want your soldiers go to war you have to, at least, know the names, watch the pictures of the ones who fall for your country. i'm schoked by the americans who don't want to see pictures of dead US soldiers because it's "depressing". hey morons! don't you think it's depressing for him and his family to get him dead to defend your way of life?!
i hate the US media!
>> Anonymous
>>380064
Convert Gallons to Liters and our prices are pretty much the same...

Dumbass.
>> Anonymous
>>380083
The media dropped the ball as did Congress in allowing BUSHWAR. In the US if you oppose "any" war you're called commie or socialist.
There is no WIN in Iraq. We merely piss off Arabs who think us crusaders.
>> Anonymous
Ya, no new refinerys... cause all the fagotty tree huggers cry oh my the pollutants.... and so, they hold protests on saving the enviroment.... so we ship all our crude to japan where THEY refine it and ship it back to us as gasoline.... ... reduce the refining cost by making it not ship across an ocean twice.
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pic somewhat related
>> Lao Tzu
I want to see these pictures. Post them.
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This one's better.
>> Anonymous
>>380128
Lao Tzu!!!!!!
>> Rex Kingman
I bet anyone posting in caps or using the word BUSHWAR in this thread is lacking an economics degree.
>> Anonymous
>>380160

well in all fairness, the vast vast vast majority of people lack a degree in economics. i myself do not have one as i am working on a degree in computer science. however my girlfriend has one. it's nice dating someone who understands how things work.
>> Anonymous
economics degree == fail

Wealth of Nations is all.
>> Anonymous
>>379777
That's what you get for equipping your soldiers with such shitty weapons as that.

Get them a G36 like the german army or something similar. Point-shoot-kill 1 mile away.
>> Anonymous
>>380179
1.6km shurly
>> Anonymous
>>380181
Actually it's 800m accurate and can kill for 1,6km.
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Hell yeah, sorry for off-topic.
But G36 is so much better than our standard weapons. Our government pumps so much $ into the military but they can't afford to buy their infantry a good weapon.

Seriously, nearly everyone is using it already, even Canada.

Every single German soldier and Federal Police man has one. It's god damn accurate.
>> Anonymous
>>380187
Canadafag here sorry no G36's for us. Our Mil is still using the Canfag version of M16 which we call the C7.
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>> Anonymous
>>380135

off topic, what are these types of pic called? (as in, a montage that makes up one larger photo)
>> Anonymous
911=INSIDE JOB

WMDS=LIES
>> Anonymous
>>380200
>montage
>> Anonymous
So much gunwankery in here.
Gb2/k/ faggots, jeez.
>> Anonymous
They weren't drafted. They get paid. They are serving there country. They elected Bush and its fuckin funny that everyone thinks hes the fucking emperor of the U.S. or something? Congress as a whole has alot more power.
>> Mr. Anonymous
Well people just dont like to remember that they are actually to blame for electing bush and starting this war, remember even congress approved it. Secondly, be damn happy that you live in a time of media RESTRAINT. during Vietnam the evening news would show long footage reels from imbedded news crews that were quite graphic, it was not uncommon to see in the course of a night 20 or 30 people killed right on your TV... some were losing limbs, some heads, for all the world to see live on CBS, NBC, etc.
>> Anonymous
>>380044
I disagree. I think the 8 years of Bush were funded by BIG OIL and the tax breaks prove it. The Saudis insist there is NO shortfall between oil requests & supply.
>> ????? !.MCCgamLAs
>>380034NEOCON
>>380081OILWAR
>>380091BUSHWAR
>>380233BIG OIL
Shut the fuck up, troofer retard. Get back to jewtube and attention whore yourself to people who give a shit. ?????
>> Anonymous
>>380231
I watched that during both Korea & Nam. It's a good thing for the people to witness the realities of war.

Korea was a joke and the South Koreans will attest to it. Nam & Iraq were both based on lies.
>> Anonymous
>>380235
I'm no troofer or Ron Paul whacko. I'm an informed voter and the right hates that.
>> ????? !.MCCgamLAs
>>380241
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>>380268
You forgot your CAPS. ?????
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There are 3 reasons why the media should be allowed to show real war footage on the news:
1) it gives people an idea of the real sacrifice that goes into defending the country
2) it gives those that would enlist a realistic view of what they are getting into
3) it is a 1st amendment right

and if the media or the government was sooo worried about traumatizing the kiddies, they could either a) require the broadcast to contain a disclaimer or warning, as much fictional shows already do or b)they could shut down all potentially violent sources of media for kids, including video games, the internet, and 90% of all motion pictures

war is real, and it should be portrayed as such. Stop pussy-footing around the fact that real soldiers die in war, and not always painlessly and cleanly, at that.
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truth!
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>>380291
>defending the country

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>>380296

from wut? Tribal buffoons?
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THE ITALIAN LETTER Published by Rodale

How the Bush Administration Used a Fake Letter to Build the Case for War in Iraq

By Peter Eisner and Knut Royce

“It’s the best account so far of one of the enduring mysteries of the Bush White House and its race to sell the Iraq war to the American public. It’s not just about the 16 words. Everything that would go wrong is telegraphed in this incident.”

- Seymour Hersh, author of Chain of Command: The Road from 9/11 to Abu Ghraib

The Italian Letter conveys “…the duplicity, subterfuge, propaganda, and outright lies that helped sell many Americans on the need to invade Iraq. Read the book and weep for our democracy.”

- Lawrence Wilkerson, chief of staff to Secretary of State Colin Powell, 2002-05
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>While I was deployed I met more skilled photographers than I probably will the rest of my life.
>I met more skilled photographers than I probably will the rest of my life.
>I probably will the rest of my life.
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Epic thread

Good shit in it

Our sons and daughters, brothers and sister, Mothers and father, Are fighting a pointless war for a bunch of dirty old lying cunts.

What a shame
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>>380435


moar liek ABOMINATION
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>> not proud to be one
Americans should see at least 2 more civil wars and one liberation from corupted or crazy leader by a foreign army like for ex. Iran or China and then they just might think like Europeans in 20th century.

No I m not jokeing this is how far behind is majority of the US population is.

meadevial ages with hi-tech guns and nuclear rockets
>> Anonymous
>>380506

TRUTH
>> Anonymous
>>380506
Europe, especially in the 20th Century, is a hypocritical and schizophrenic group of nobodies who are either desperately trying to remain relevant in a world that's passed them, or clinging to ideologies that are unworkable at best.

I'm not saying America's perfect, or even better. It's just hubris or ignorance to even claim Europe has it right. They don't, and they never will; on the whole they're far to self-serving to save themselves from their own problems, and it disturbs me to no end that the trend is starting in the States as well.
>> BurtGummer !!RRMHFHglFsy
>>380554

What the FUCK are you talking about?

Europe has a vast cultural spread, a long history of discovery and invention, and a LOT more experience in war than America has ever had.

We've been at the forefront of basically every cultural revolution since Roman times.

You may be big and rich, but your still the new kid on the block. Europe has been advancing the world for centuries, and NOW we even share our knowledge with each other.
>> Anonymous
>>380554
8/10; I raged
and raged some more
>> Anonymous
>>380506

when I suggest to an American History sez our time at the top is both brief & temporary, they freak.

We're a;ready 30th in life expectancy so I guess "going down" is reality.
>> Anonymous
>>380554

Europe is miles ahead of a US policy of ignoring those with which we disagree. They have years of getting it right earned by doing it wrong the first time.

Learn Spanish or Mandarin cuz the fat lady gonna sing a Requiem.
>> Anonymous
>>380200
photomosaic
>> Anonymous
>>380589
collage too but that's often mixed media
>> Anonymous
>>380585
>sez

Get a god damn education
>> Anonymous
>>380506
>meadevial ages with hi-tech guns and nuclear rockets

and watching every move its citizens make is a sign of an "enlightened" society? taking away people's freedom to carry a simple knife on their person (let alone a gun to really defend themselves) is a sign of an "enlightened" society?

europeans don't want to open their eyes and see the radical upheaval of their cultures - which happened to attempt to eliminate an entire race of people not sixty years ago - brought on by radical Islam.

you cocksucking, cowering retardofags bitched when Reagan set up his little missiles in Europe to push the Soviet empire to collapse, but, in the end it was just that forcefulness and eastern european countries that brought about its collapse. I hope you live out your last fucking days with even less freedoms than you have now because you sure as hell don't deserve what you've been given by the west.
>> Anonymous
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/021594.php

Europe - one failure at a time towards obscurity
>> BurtGummer !!RRMHFHglFsy
>>380638

LOL OMG what? God i hope your trolling.

>and watching every move its citizens make is a sign of an "enlightened" society?

>taking away people's freedom to carry a simple knife..

Thats England, not "Europe", you idiot. The cameras are only in the city centers, and you have just as many in yours.

>..attempt to eliminate an entire race of people not sixty years ago - brought on by radical Islam.

Since when were the nazis Islamic?

>..bitched when Reagan set up his little missiles in Europe

Again, England, not Europe..

>you sure as hell don't deserve what you've been given by the west.

We ARE the WEST you cretin. In fact WE were THE ORIGINAL west.

NOW SHUT UP YOU IGNORANT FUCKING TYPICAL UNDER EDUCATED AMERICAN TROLL FAGGOT.
>> Anonymous
>>380638
Raygun had Alzheimers before taking office. He had squat to do with the collapse of Communism. Thank Gorby, he did all the heavy lifting.
>> Anonymous
>>380645
>Thats England, not "Europe", you idiot.

I was specifically referring to England you cunt-stain, learn2fuckingread and you'll realize I never stated all of europe had cameras or banned even the simplest forms of self-protection. England, however, is the typical example held up as a pinnacle of enlightenment when it's nothing more than an island prison.

You know who owns the cameras in our cities? Private businesses protecting their properties. The police don't have a giant fucking web of eyes to peer onto the daily activities of the average citizen. You know what our police cameras do catch - if they're around - people who drive through red lights.

>Since when were the nazis Islamic?

do you know what an digression is... aww fuck it, I bet you don't, fuck off

>Again, England, not Europe..

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

ahahaahahahaha

oh that's good, yeah, England was the only country threatened by the Soviet Union

do you even know who Ronald Reagan was?
>> Anonymous
>>380658
cont.
>In fact WE were THE ORIGINAL west.

No, you're NOTHING now. Not the west, not the north, not the east, not the south. If there was a directional term for shithole, you'd be it.

Nice attempt to throw a red herring though. You Eurofags owe EVERYTHING to the people across the ocean to the west of you. Not just your lives but your whole society and prosperity. When will you stop oweing it? When you put on big-boy pants and actually start solving your own problems instead of naively that everybody else will look out for your best interests.

Europeans love to pronounce the "stupidity" of American children when they can't identify the names of countries on a blank map - as if identifying a country by its shape was a useful fucking skill anyway (see, this is a digression, since you're confused) - but in reality those European countries are no more important than third-world nations in South American which you probably haven't the slightest clue about. Europe is long in the trash-bin of history and stopped being relevant when it refused to deal with communism both from the Soviet union and internal parties. Europe has failed to protect the liberties of her citizens and thus has failed to stay at the front of the world.
>> Anonymous
ITT trolls get lost in a sea of nationalistic circle-jerking
>> Anonymous
>>380662
"as if identifying a country by its shape was a useful fucking skill anyway"

Very useful and indicative of some understanding of global realities. Iraq is what you get when dullards run your country.
>> Anonymous
>>380663

It's cute how nationalists are completely unaware that nationalism is simply tribalism on a larger scale. Much of the US populace would make great Muslimaniacs.
>> Anonymous
>>380662

Im sorry, are you on drugs?

Youve never been to Europe, and you will never go.

You will never appreciate the Beauty of Italy, the Grandeur and history of England or the culture of spain. You will never see the rebuilt Berlin, enjoy the craic of Ireland or take in the atmosphere of Turkey.

(Yes, Turkeys in Europe.)

And do YOU know why? Because your just some dumb, middle american fool, who has some insane belief that his country took over the minute they achieved independance.

Your all wrapped up in an anti islamic shroud since 9/11 (an attack which shattered your feeling of ivincibility), and you believe that Europe is being swallowed by arabs.

It isnt. We arent stupid. We have been around long enough, and we owe YOU nothing. The war was a fight between western countries, A fight based on land, not religion.

The UK and all of Europe have more Culture, influence and history in the hairs on our arse' than you have in your entire history.
>> Anonymous
>>380675
"We have been around long enough, and we owe YOU nothing."

You're right. We were isolationists both times and I suspect FDR allowed Pearl Harbor (after moving the carriers) to convince the rabble to fight.

Hey, I'm a Yank but we're a poor excuse for a nation.
>> Rex Kingman
Awesome thread is awesome.

And full of dirty hippies and Eurofags.
>> Anonymous
ITT an epic Eurofag circle jerk.

Seriously, some of you Eurocunts are so fanatically nationalistic its scary.

I don’t even know if you can call it nationalism, its more like narcissism. No one cares what some faggot did 200 years ago in the same general geographic location as you. They might have been brilliant and revolutionary but it doest matter because you are a cock regardless.
>> Rex Kingman
Aye, the level of hate for America here is palpable.

Of course, the demographics of a typical 4-Channer probably contributes to these postings in a big way.

Internet arguments always contain someone posting in all caps, someone stating their unprovable opinion as fact regardless of having no education in the topic they are posting in, and the eventual comparisons to Hitler.

...sigh...

(Personally, I go to 4-Chan for the HR boobies.)
>> Anonymous
YOU SIR ARE A FAG AND WORSE THAN HITLER. NO WAR FOR OIL!!!
>> Anonymous
>>380770
Your sexual development suggest HR is wasted on you.
>> Anonymous
Fags went to war proud because bush told them to. now they are crying... what did you expect? have a holiday in iraq? i think bush is like saddam and rest of the world should attack usa to FREE their people...
>> Anonymous
yeah, u're damn right! everyone who goes 2 war is a stupid dickhead!
I often ask myself what did the soldiers expect? bringin' PEACE WITH BOMBS? Helping the iraqis by KILLING THEIR CHILDREN? and later they cry, cause it hurts, being shot!
hope for more dead soldiers, until the last one recongnize that EVERY WAR SUCKS!
>> Anonymous
unless they are your family members, i don't suggest plastering pictures of dead soldiers on the internet, because that's damn disrespectful. War is the price of freedom, and until everyone realizes that, it's not gonna stop.
>> Anonymous
what freedom, you asshole? bombing Freedom in other countries?
War is the price for Oil, dumbass!
Go and let shoot urself, brainwashed Zombie!!!
>> Anonymous
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XKRkyCmUy-U
>> Anonymous
>>380832
Bring it, bitches.
>> Rex Kingman
>>381708

You´re all indoctrinated. If you had the capability to muster enough constructive thinking you would realize that bitching about stuff you have been taught to concieve as true serves no meaning whatsoever. Why not start digging around for some real fact about reasons for war and the consequences of war instead of just pointing fingers. It´s ironic how Europeans and Americans can throw these tantrums at each other when we essentially are nothing but partners in crime hellbent on commercial and cultural imperialism towards the rest of the world. GET REAL!

> Not going to happen on this board, though I am incomplete agreement with you.

Anybody as the OP what branch of service he was in, how long was his tour, or his rank and educational level? I wonder what his squadmates would say to him after his post.

I'd like to ask why, in a time where there is no draft in the US, he willingly signed up with an organization whose primary duty it the follow the orders of Congress and the Commander in Chief.

Also, it's odd from one who willingly placed himslef in this position to bitch about the loss of life when it's common knowledge that ARMIES KILL PEOPLE. What do you think you were getting for that GI bill?

OP? OP?
>> Anonymous
OP won't post reply. He probably isn't even in the service. How do you verify his credentials on a web site like 4Chan?

I should know, since I'm a doctor and a well respected defense attorney.
>> Anonymous
OP's MOS?
>> Anonymous
Are you askin' for the OP's MOS?
>> Anonymous
No most posts.

LOL Eurotrash US haters gave up-- just like France did in WWII.