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To US citizens - What does sovereignty mean to you? Are you willing to stand aside and see your country merged with Mexico and Canada without you having your say about it?

Behold, your new currency...

Makes you think twice before calling someone a conspiracy nut, doesn't it?

Watch Endgame - Blueprint for Global Enslavement on Google Video.
>> Anonymous
>>249132
Conspiracy nut.
>> Anonymous
>>249133

You call that coin a fraud?
>> Anonymous
>>249134
Souvenir of the unlikely dream of Dick Cheney, Wolfowitz, etc.
>> Anonymous
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Here's the tails.
>> Anonymous
http://www.dc-coin.com/index.asp?Category=8&PageAction=VIEWCATS

^^ Some guy minted those privately to raise awareness about the proposed Amero, crackfag. If you're going to be a conspiracy nut, at least research your evidence.
>> Anonymous
>>249136

You'd better vote for Ron Paul, if you don't want to fill your wallet with those.
>> Anonymous
>>249143

You better realize it's a fucking fake, dumbass.
>> Anonymous
Well, fuck that Hal Turner guy then. Sure got me fooled.

Anyway, the USD is in some deep water right now.
>> Anonymous
>>249153
Not water...
>> Anonymous
Oh lawd, the trolls just don't give up.
>> Anonymous
This shit does not belong on /hr/.
>> Anonymous
>>249132
wait. what? what the fuck has this got to do with /hr/?
>> Anonymous
Frankly, I'd welcome the Amero, if it was fucking worth something, unlike the dollar. Right now, it'd be hard to get the knucks to sign on.
>> Anonymous
>>249164
second that.
>> Anonymous
trolls are out in full force tonight
>> Anonymous
canadians can go fuck themselves.
we already have a significant portion of the the mexican population so union would be pretty k-rad. tex-mex for everyone.

also, new currency is the only way to get dollar coins. dollar coins are bitchin'.
>> Anonymous
fuck this union bullshit... my family fought the mexicans for Texas' independence once... and we must fight again because we are being invaded by illegals but i will not stand by and let my heritage and my family's struggle do in vain
>> Anonymous
>>249132

Didn't Manifest Destiny call for us to do just that in the first place?
>> Anonymous
No soup for you.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/amero.asp
>> Anonymous
why would the US change the name of its currency just because of some north american union bullshit? Just keep the dollars and cents and do what the Euro did, localise the currency for each nation in the union.
>> Anonymous
>>249245yeah weve had em for years and i hope an eagle decides to live in ur throat for 35 years, besides all i see is a spanish american penny
>> Anonymous
>>249250

LOL.
>> Anonymous
Considering the crap that's come from Texas recently, I say we just give it back to Mexico.
>> Anonymous
>>249364
Hell Yeah!
>> Anonymous
>>249364
GIVE TEXAS BACK! GIVE TEXAS BACK! GIVE TEXAS BACK! GIVE TEXAS BACK! GIVE TEXAS BACK! GIVE TEXAS BACK! GIVE TEXAS BACK! GIVE TEXAS BACK! GIVE TEXAS BACK! GIVE TEXAS BACK! GIVE TEXAS BACK! GIVE TEXAS BACK! GIVE TEXAS BACK!
>> The nutcase are manipulating you YouAreASucker
Don't fall for this shit. Those coins are made by a guy for profit from conspiracy theorist suckers. He's laughing all the way to the bank, only he gets to withdraw real hundred dollar bills.
>> Laughing Jackass
Blame the Republicans for driving the dollar down low to help their Fat Cat pals. That's how the Canadians and the Chinese and Emirates get to buy up this country from paranoid nitwits running around chasing conspiracy theories. They LOVE it when you waste your time getting scared by this nonsense. Makes it easier for them to sell you another war so you can send your daughter.
>> Anonymous
If this really happened I would climb the clocktower. Thankfully it's a conspiracy wet dream.
>> Anonymous
OH MAAAAH GAWWWWWDD MURRIKA GON' BE MERGED WIT DEM BROWN FOLKS AN DEM MAPLE FARMUHS UP NORF WUT WILL HAPP'N TO MAH GUNZ
>> Anonymous
amerocurrency.com its fake lawl
>> Anonymous
http://zeitgeistmovie.com/
>> Anonymous
>>249424
LOL frum Kanada mofo! We luv u dumfuk Yanx!
>> Anonymous
I'd love a unified currency for North America. Maybe the strength of the Canadian dollar and cheap labor of Mexico will make the US economy get off it's fucking ass and be productive.
>> Anonymous
If all talk about the North American Union is automatically tin foil hat crazy, then a large portion of your elected legislators are conspiracy loons. Some legislators are active combatting against the possibility of the NAU.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/node/5862

Bush went to Afganistan without the congress.
Bush went to Iraq without the congress.
What stops him from going along with the NAU?
>> Anonymous
>>249582
more likely to happen though, is america will drag canada/mexico down with it:(
>> Anonymous
>>249634

Hear Hear.
>> Anonymous
>>249634
>>What stops him from going along with the NAU?

The end of his term?
>> Anonymous
>>249638

Hillary Clinton has attended meetings regarding the NAU. Don't worry, she'll carry on the agenda. Unless you vote for the only candidate with the willingness to benefit the american people.
>> Anonymous
>>249499

It should be mandatory by law for everyone to see that documentary.

Best one I've seen of the genre, ever.
>> Anonymous
the reason the dollar is shit now, is because of NAFTA, and Bush.
>> Anonymous
This is not even a real coin. Its a medallion created by Daniel Carr. It was created to inform Americans about the real possibility of the NAU.
>> Anonymous
>>249725

That's already been established.
>> Anonymous
Sovereignity is just that; a sovereign entity. It is the state of being sovereign.
>> Anonymous
>>249721
Actually, genius, it's the result of NAFTA, CAFTA, and the Unlimited Trade Agreement with China, which are all Clinton's policies enacted during his term. The President usually has very little effect on the economy. Except when you do things like NAFTA, CAFTA, and unlimited trade agreements. The economy was shit before Bush. He hasn't done anything to help it, but the US economy was and has been a mess for a long time now.
>> Anonymous
And what's so bad about this hypothetical NAU? You get all the wilds up north for your vacation resorts (not to mention more access to north polar oil fields) and all the cheap labor down south without having to brand them as illegal immigrants? The only trouble I see is, I don't think either Canadians or Mexicans would join your scheme without a war.
>> Anonymous
>>249859
>You get all the wilds up north for your vacation resorts (not to mention more access to north polar oil fields) and all the cheap labor down south without having to brand them as illegal immigrants? The only trouble I see is, I don't think either Canadians or Mexicans would join your scheme without a war.
I agreed with you all up to this point. Than you made a jackass of yourself.
>> Anonymous
>>249853

Clinton's budget was in the black.
>> Anonymous
>>249696
while the tinfoil industry might benefit, this movie mercifully tanked.

>>249635

Nobody is "going down" you naive child
>> Anonymous
>>249872
prove it faggot
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>>249899
Note "Iraq".
>> Anonymous
>>249696
Oh jesus, you people are retarded. Every time there is a "discussion" about 9/11 or the Iraq war or Bush or someshit, this stupid movie comes up from faggots like you.

Guess what? The author of the movie himself said: "Nothing in this movie is not to be taken as fact. It was made to try to get people to think about things differently."

Shows what kind of retard you are to believe anything you see on the internet, and not even do the tiniest bit of research.
>> Anonymous
>>249932

And you're a retard for beleiving everything the government is telling you, even though there's factual proof that the government is lying to you. The weapons of mass destruction for example.

What's the source for your quote? The documentary's homepage clearly states that "Now, it's important to point out that there is a tendency to simply disbelieve things that are counter to our understanding, without the necessary research performed. For example, some information contained in Part 1 and Part 3, specifically, is not obtained by simple keyword searches on the Internet. You have to dig deeper. For instance, very often people who look up "Horus" or "The Federal Reserve" on the internet draw their conclusions from very general or biased sources. Online encyclopedias or text book Encyclopedias often do not contain the information contained in Zeitgeist. However, if one takes the time to read the sources provided, they will find that what is being presented is based on documented evidence.". The list of sources is also impressive.

How much would you say is true in this documentary? 25%? 50%? 75%? Have you researched anything stated in this documentary? Have you ever seen it to begin with?
>> Anonymous
Hardly any of the assholes who say the Federal Reserve is "illegal" or make other generalized criticisms about the US system actually knows how it works. Take Finance, Investing, and Money and Banking and figure the fuck out what's going on so you don't turn into a typical uninformed absentee-voter whiner.
>> Anonymous
>>249957
The Federal Reserve nutjobs are the wierdest. Anywhere else in the world you go, people are pretty cool with the idea of central banks, taxes and government spending but take a stroll through the woods of New Hampshire and it's like "OH MAH GAWD MAH MONIES ARE TAKEN BAH DER GUVMENT DIS IS TYRANNICUUUHL"
>> Anonymous
Well, for instance, if the federal reserve was government controlled taxpayers wouldn't have to pay interest to anyone. Right now, the federal reserve stockholders are pocketing massive amounts of interest money since the federal reserve is privately owned.
>> Anonymous
>>249951
>For example, some information contained in Part 1 and Part 3, specifically, is not obtained by simple keyword searches on the Internet. You have to dig deeper. For instance, a ton of conspiracy theory books.

Fix'd. Yeah, some super credible sources there. All that bullshit is on online encyclopedias, actually. And tons of conspiracy theory websites for that matter.


As far as calling me a retard for believing everything the government is telling me... um, excuse me? I don't remember saying anything about what I believe. I merely commented on the movie, shit for brains.

And WMD's, ha! How many people have been saying there are WMD's in Iraq for YEARS? But as soon as Bush says it "OMG GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACY BUSH IS HITLER 9/11 INSIDE JOB"
>> Anonymous
>>249951
"A remastered version was presented as a global premiere on November 10, 2007 at the 4th Annual Artivist Film Festival & Artivist Awards. In one of its few mainstream reviews the Irish Times called it "unhinged" and accused it of offering nothing but "surreal perversions of genuine issues and debates".

"In addition to attracting significant public interest, it has been criticized for relying too heavily on anecdotal evidence and for using unidentified, undated, and unsourced video news clips, voice-overs, quotes, and book citations without page numbers."
>> Anonymous
>>249951
"Breaking new factual ground is not what Zeitgeist is about, however. Rather, the video is a powerful and fast-acting dose of agitprop, hawking its conclusions as givens. Unfortunately, like most propaganda, it doesn’t play fair with its intended audience. At times, while watching it, I felt like I was getting Malcolm McDowell’s treatment in Clockwork Orange: eyes pried wide open while getting bombarded with quick-cut atrocity photos.

At other times, Zeitgeist engages in willful confusion by showing TV screen shots of network or cable news with voice-overs from unidentified people not associated with the news programs. If one weren’t paying close attention, the effect would be to confer the status and authority of TV news upon the words being spoken. Even when quotes or sound bites are attributed to a source, there’s no way to tell if they are quoted correctly or in context.

Late in the video, there’s a supposed quote from David Rockefeller, which, if genuine, would be an astounding confession of complicity in mass manipulation. But, of course, the quote is not sourced or dated, which renders it useless. (The video’s website does feature a Sources page, but a hodge-podge list of books, with no page numbers cited, is of little value for source verification.)

The over-all temper of the video is rather like the John Birch Society on acid, with interludes by Harry Smith. Incongruously, after spending nearly two hours trying to scare the bejeezis out of its viewers, Zeitgeist ends on an oddly upbeat note, telling us that Love — not Fear — is the answer, We are all One, and featuring sound-bites from Ram Dass and Carl Sagan."
>> Anonymous
>>249951
"It’s my hunch that Zeitgeist is one attempt to provide such a jolt, and it does indeed pack a certain punch. Too bad it also runs off in three directions at once, and is so indiscriminate in its sources and overly certain of its conclusions. Zeitgeist may be powerful, but its power is tainted with some simplistic and pernicious memes that have already received more propagation than they deserve. The video’s producer does inform us that “It is my hope that people will not take what is said in the film as the truth...”

Indeed.
>> Anonymous
>>249965

No; most of that money is returned to the US treasury.

The Fed isn't at the whim of Congress's appropriations. But this is a GOOD thing, as it means the Fed is more independent of the political system. Do you want a crappy president like Bush controlling monetary policy? The Fed can still be changed by government; it's just not restricted by budgeting.
>> Anonymous
>>249968

What I don't get is why the producer made this documentary if he doesn't want to be taken seriously... To create awareness of issues that he doesn't think are real? That's borderline schizopheric!

And you know everything? You can't go about making claims that EVERYTHING in the documentary is false.

We both made assumptions about each other, we are both in fault of making assumptions. So let's not make assumptions? No, I don't beleive everything I read on the internet, especially stuff from main stream media sources. Everything from main stream sources I take with a grain of salt.

I didn't say I made any conclusions based on the fact that the US government lied about the WMDs, all I wanted to say is that the government lies, period. Not about everything, but a lot of things. Are you inclined to beleive proven liar?

You failed to answer me about if you've actually seen the documentary or not.
>> Anonymous
>>250001
Yep, I watched it in one sitting a few months ago. I'm just tired of people using it as their "proof" for their conspiracy theories. "NO YOU'RE WORNG [insert movie url]." What the documentary was made for was to open people's eyes up and make them think differently from the way they might currently do and to question the "official" answers.

My point was that the movie wasn't proof of anything. There are a lot of questions I personally (and I know many others) have about what happened on 9/11 and the government's official story of what happened but I'm not going to jump to the conclusion that 9/11 was an inside job.
>> Anonymous
>>249989

If that's the case, I fail to see why the fed is collecting interest off government debt in the first place. If that's the way things work, without any particular reason, sure... I'm not from the US so I don't claim to know much about the US monetary system.
>> Anonymous
>>250007

Do you see any correlation between Pearl Harbor and 9/11? What's your theory about the government knowing about the Pearl Harbor strike but not doing anything about it? (There's enough evidence to claim prior knowledge, if I'm not mistaken.) Lines of command getting mixed up? Or some sinister agenda?
>> Anonymous
>>249634
Bush did NOT go into Iraq on his own
Congress passed the Iraq Resolution that gave him the necessary authorization.
As for Afghanistan the president had the right to act accordingly as america was attacked, in addition to this Congress again, authorized Bush to take such action.
If you want to blame someone blame congress for not doing their fucking job and upholding the constitution by signing over their powers to the president those fucking twats and then blame bush and his administration for having the skill in making congress his bitch
>> Anonymous
>>250017

Ohh, right. Most of the interest goes abroad, the fed only provides a part of the national loans.

Disregard my question.
>> Anonymous
>>250030

How much of a threat do you see Iran as to the USA? How much is the main stream media badmouthing Iran? Just curious, I don't live over there.
>> Anonymous
>>250045
Personally, I don't see a threat in Iran...but that stems from my lack of knowledge as to why Iran having nuclear capabilities would be a bad thing since a number of countries have them. I personally feel like Bush is making Iran a threat by his doctrine of preemption, which congress is complying with.
Really its just a clusterfuck of countries (the us) trying to flex its nut to other countries trying to enter into the modern world/stage (with respect to nuclear capabilities disregarding everything else)
As to the media...It really just depends on which channel you watch. I used to watch alot of fox and they make Iran out to be crazy and evil and the modern hitler whereas other channels seem to try to analyze the threat while bashing the administrations handling of it (although personally i feel that all media coverage of iran regardless of their belief of bush display the same apprehension towards Iran)