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Official Petition for SVG Anonymous
this is a petition to allow SVG images to be uploaded to /hr/, let's get this stickied!
>> Anonymous
seconded
>> Anonymous
I agree...svg should be allowed.
>> Anonymous
Official? 4 reelz? dats liek awsum.

I like it anyway
>> Anonymous
how big are svgs ?
normally...
>> Anonymous
>>125883
well not "official" petition... more like "organized in one thread" petition
>> Anonymous
>>125885
SVG stands for Scalable Vector Graphics, so they have no real "size", unless you mean filesize, and in that case it varies
>> Anonymous
I agree for this.
just not only svg but any vector format of the admins choosing.
It would be great to see real vector images instead of converted to bitmap ones.
>> Anonymous
we can post swf files on /f/
lol...
>> Anonymous
i Agree, vectors would be nice
>> Anonymous
bumping this awesome thread. SVG will be really welcome in HR forum... however I do hope it will actually be used.
>> Anonymous
>>125895
swf ? svg
>> Jesus
>>125902
swf is the same shit but animooted. vectors + actionscript
>> Anonymous
>>125908
yeah but SVG is an actual IMAGE
>> Anonymous
>>125910
a single frame of a SWF is as much an image as a SVG file is.
>> Anonymous
yep
but allowing swfs up to 8mb in size would flood this board with shit like ugly pornmovie swfs, lolicatgirls or zone hentai...
>> Anonymous
>>125910

"Scalable Vector Graphics (SVG) is an XML markup language for describing two-dimensional vector graphics, both static and animated, and either declarative or scripted. Images can contain hyperlinks using outbound simple XLinks."

Fail Fail FAIL

SVG can be animated and can create the same bs problems SWF can.
>> Anonymous
>>125885

The ones inkscape saves tend to be much smaller than the png exports. One example, 52K SVG vs 388K for a 3200x2400 PNG. The savings improve the bigger the image too, if such a concept really exists for SVG.

Allowing SVGs would have my vote. I guess if browsers can render the other vector formats then those should be in too.
>> Anonymous
/signed
>> Anonymous
SVG really should be allowed. Creating bitmaps of vectors is stupid. Why degrade the quality?
>> Anonymous
Supported. The less bandwidth /hr/ uses up, the better. Of course, thumbnailing might be a problem...
>> Anonymous
>>125952
We could have an optional thumbnail upload form for picture of the SVG. I am all for this as well. What ever helps with 4chan's bandwidth.
>> Anonymous
>>125955

still problem bc of :

>>125922
>> Anonymous
>>125959
gifs as thumbnail? :D
>> Anonymous
For thumbnails, you could just write a little bit of PHP to resize the SVG, then embed it in the page as if it were a regular image. The SVG format is fairly simple and well documented.
>> Anonymous
I like this idea, could be good for a trial, at least.
>> Anonymous
if you export the vector to png at a high res, it wouldnt matter if png is bitmap format because it's already at such a high res
>> Anonymous
agree
>> Anonymous
seconded. which programs output SVGs? i've never used svgs myself... familiar with illustrator though.
>> Anonymous
/signed
>> Anonymous
I think you guys are missing the obvious irony that a vector based image does not have to be high-res as it can be resized without loss of quality and thus it wouldn't actually qualify for /hr/ unless it was scaled to a high resolution which again would defeat the purpose of it being vector based.
>> Anonymous
>>126053
Let's rename the board to "High Resolution and Vector" then.
>> Anonymous
>>126053

You probably know this, but just so you don't mislead suckers, vector images should look as good on the side of a building as they do on a postage stamp, since they're a series of mathematical instructions. Because an artist will pay only so much attention to detail this isn't necessarily true, but they're infinitely better off than raster images.

When you have a vector image, you have it - there is no "higher quality" version. The board could be named /hq/.

Or you could stop being a pedantic bastard.
>> Anonymous
>>126026

Corel the-only-program-of-theirs-anyone-still-uses used to be the favorite, but Corel didn't know what the fuck they were doing and screwed up perfection, apparently.

Illustrator is now the favorite because apparently people like pirating things; the perfectly free Inkscape is also popular and one of the best open source apps around. There's also SodiPodi, which it shot off from, but nobody gives a damn, really.
>> Anonymous
fukkin signed
>> Anonymous
lpz also allow .svgz uploads, smaller filesize (compressed svg's)
>> Anonymous
>>125994
You are completely missing the point of vectors.
also, /signed
>> Anonymous
SIGNED..... anyone use Xara Extreme? it is 100% vectorized!
>> Anonymous
Signed
>> Anonymous
Signed. SVG isn't high resolution, it's highest resolution!
>> Anonymous
sig-ned!!!
>> Anonymous
sang
>> Anonymous
I give this my approval.
>> Anonymous
SVG please!
>> Anonymous
How big would a 1000x1000 image be in SVG format?
>> Anonymous
Is it possible to allow non-animated ones only?
>> Anonymous
since a number of people in this thread don't seem to get what SVGs are, here you go:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SVG
>> SAL9000 !WLadN25gtc
If SVG was supported, I'd come in my pants. Then post pics, vectored of course.
>> Anonymous
anonyfag hereby signs the petition
>> Anonymous
even though it would just mean more anime or webcomic things in /hr/, I sign
>> The Postman !iNyPzWFuzU
seconded
>> Anonymous
>>126156
Vector images are compose of mathematical formula, and as such they scale to whatever size you want, perfectly. They are not suitable for, say, photos, because photos have so many different colors and shapes in them. They are very suitable for drawn things, especially anime/things that are partially flat colored.


Because of this the size of a SVG is not define by how many pixels it is, but by how complex it is. (IE: how many different lines and colored regions there are.)

More on topic, I say we should allow SVG images.
>> Zdenek
The adaptation of the board to support SVG images should be simple, but the more popular a site is, the more rigid the administrators are. We can only hope that an exception will occur.
>> Spyffe
fukken signed
>> Anonymous
4chan probably won't support anything that isn't native or in like 99% of browsers (flash), so svg isn't really likely. Otherwise Jpeg2000 would be shit-hot too. Besides, you think any admins actually care about hr? If they did we wouldn't have such shitty mods.

(One problem with svg is that they don't work with most image viewer programs, and in browsers, the plugins are't made to view them standalone and manipulate their sizes.)

You could just upload your svg to rapid/mega/wiki etc when you upload your png to 4chan, y'know.
>> Anonymous
/signed
>> Anonymous
/signed
>> Anonymous
.svg would be nice, but a good alternative would be .tiff images. The size is the only problem with those though.

Ehh, fuck it,

/signed
>> Anonymous
>>126269

There's a number of different TIFF "standards" equal to approximately the number of atoms in the universe.

Also, absolutely fucking massive.
>> Anonymous
/signed.
>> Anonymous
/signed
>> Loneliest !3GqYIJ3Obs!!fcA
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>> Anonymous
/signed
I KNOW YOU SEE THIS THREAD, MODS, DON'T PRETEND LIKE YOU DON'T
>> Nightlands !GR1R.oFZ5w
I'm in.
>> Anonymous
lol at completely unidentifiable anonymii signing a petition one or more times
>> Anonymous
as a big photoshop uploader, i fully agree with this thread.
>> Anonymous
/signed damnit!!!
>> Anonymous
signed :3
>> Nekozuki !adhRKFl5jU
signed.

Inkscape is a nice (free) program
>> Anonymous
>>126230
Firefox, Opera, Konqueror, and numerous other browsers have native support for SVG.

A great piece of technology which could potentially save 4chan tons of bandwidth should not be ignored simply because the gigantic faggots who develop Internet Explorer don't support it. IE STILL doesn't support PNG images properly. Anyone who's using IE can deal with the problems caused by it, or switch to something that doesn't fuck over every web developer by failing to render valid HTML/XHTML/CSS/PNG/SVG properly.
>> Anonymous
eh, signed
>> Anonymous
signed, sincerelly a concerned citizen
>> HAL9000 !aUC8h1oEKI
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signed
<- source image was an .svg
>> Anonymous
Sage.
>> Anonymous
o0ps i meant AGE
>> Anonymous
>>125877
signed, but moot is so much a faggot that he would prefer fucking his mother by ears than allowing us uploading svg.
>> Anonymous
bumping because not enough people are signing
>> Anonymous
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>>126156
not that easy to answer... depends on the image itself, its complexity, basically how many lines, shapes and so on were used...

however as a quite good comparision i used this simoun picture to test jpg vs svg :

size of jpg see above
svg = 147kb

ok so while this doesnt look that great, wait for the next test...
>> Peorth !!zKfADcnG1JS
/sign
>> Anonymous
fukken signed(BTW, what program opens SVG's???)
>> Anonymous
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next test :
bloating the picture up 10 times to /hr/s max!

as you can see, the jpg is huge, although it was exported at (illustrators) jpeg7 and then using irfanview with 85%...
will test next how big it would be in png...

HOWEVER the svg size of the file was only...

-> 191kb !! <-
>> HAL9000 !aUC8h1oEKI
>>126456
http://www.inkscape.org/
and Illustrator can handle them.
>> Anonymous
The filesize thing is all well and good, but as already stated near the begining of the thread, SVGs would cause way too many problems.
If people wanna upload SVGs here nothing is stopping them from uploading them to rapidshare or something similar, placing the link in the thread and posting a png or jpg of what they just linked to...
>> Anonymous
>>126454
Why didn't you link to the damn svg then?
>> Anonymous
>>126461
Except that we could only view one SVG every two hours...
>> Anonymous
/signed
>> Anonymous
>>126462
tried exporting from illus to png...

wouldnt let me lolz
(image too big)

tried bmp/tif
=> not enough memory (1gb lulz)

why should i post the svg of it ? it was just a comparision
>> Anonymous
>>126471
pls note, that this anon and
>>126461
this anon are two different anons !
>> Anonymous
Thread supported.
>> Anonymous
http://573chan.org/svg/thread/18

573 chan has had svg thumbnails and uploads (though slightly innaccurate) for quite some time. :c Link is a thread of some of the SVGs I made.
>> Anonymous
>>126467
I said rapidshare or 'something similar' there are a few free file hosts that don't have download limits ...just annoying ads
>> Anonymous
>>126161here

Although I still don't know, if animated SVGs can be blocked, I SIGN.
For less tracing-discussions and more traced pictures!

btw the mods can see IPs, can't they? They'd see how many unique anons sign this.
>> Anonymous
>>126530
I don't know much about the SVG format, but it might be possible to write a parser that looks at an SVG file and discards it if it has any animation. I'd sign, but I already did so far above.
>> Anonymous
alright, newly enlightened, i sing this petition!
>> Climhazard !FVRiasq3c6
Tripfag signs this petition.
>> Anonymous
Yes! SVG support! Please!
>> Anonymous
>>126539

Although I still don't know, if animated SVGs can be blocked, I SIGN.

Indeed. If not, fuck that shit.
>> Anonymous
Signed.

~Anon
>> Anonymous
OP here. looking good, /hr/, keep it going!
>> Anonymous
>>126553
What's wrong with animated SVG?
>> tmots
signed
>> Anonymous
Signed
>> Anonymous
>>126366
We are anonymous.
We are united as one.
We are divided by zero.
We are wanting SVG.
>> Anonymous
I sign. Sounds like a good idea.... although I'm not quite sure how it works. :/
>> Anonymous
Signed too.
>> Anonymous
i approve
>> Loneliest !3GqYIJ3Obs!!fcA
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>> Anonymous
SVG = vector?
>> Anonymous
>>126620
what part of Scalable _____Vector______ Graphics
dont you understand ?
>> Anonymous
>>126621
The part where I'm magically supposed to know what every single acronym stands for.
>> Anonymous
>>126624
Google = magic?
>> Anonymous
/signed
>> Anonymous
>>126631
"Use Google." Talk about bulk answers. Why do we even need boards when we can just "use Google"? It is just more simple to ask a question in a board related to particular topic than find it from Google.

Or guess not. Maybe we should just close all the internet boards and sites because it's just so simple to use Google instead. Although, even Google needs it's answers from somewhere. Any guesses where they come from?
>> Anonymous
bumping this thread to keep it on the board
>> Anonymous
I'm>>126539and thus have already signed.

Having taken a closer at the SVG specs I see that it is an XML format (means both machine and human readable) and it had a few specific tags/attributes for animation. Simply doing a text search through the file for those attributes/tags and discarding the file if it contains them should be enough to prevent animated SVGS.
>> Anonymous
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>>126692
Anonymous is awesome, thank you.

I have fixed OPs picture to prove the superiority of SVG
>> Anonymous
Considering that most people could resize the images themselves, there'd no longer be any unnecessarily huge 4000x4000 logos and whatnot. Not all of /hr/ is logos, but bandwidth would nonetheless be cut quite a bit. Signed
>> Anonymous
$igned
>> Anonymous
Yes. Want. $ign me up.
>> Anonymous
signed
>> Anonymous
>>126776
Signed, although if the petition doesn't work, just embed a .svg within a .rar within a suitably sized .jpg
>> Anonymous
Signed
>> Anonymous
>>126856
BEST IDEA EVER.