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GOOGLE'S NEW KICKASS IMAGE SHARING FRAMEWORK Anonymous
Google is building a kickass new image sharing framework, which consists of complete integration between it's products:

- Picasa, Google's slick image browser/manager/organizer.
-- The latest betas of picasa include integration with Picasaweb/Picasa Web Albums
-- The latest betas of picasa include integration with Picasamail
-- The latest betas of picasa include integration with "Hello"

- Picasaweb, google's new image sharing website. Soon to be a competitor to Yahoo's "Flickr", Picasaweb is still in pre-beta testing stage.
-- Picasaweb includes support for uploading images to it directly from within Picasa
-- Picasaweb includes support for downloading entire albums directly into Picasa
-- Picasaweb includes 250mb of image hosting space by default

- Picasamail, Google's new image e-mail service. -- I don't know what this is, but you can use it from within Picasa

- "Hello", google's new image sharing instant message app. Able to share any photo, instantly, with anybody else using the program. The instant sharing is made possible by constant streaming of data between computers in realtime, while the streamed picture is being viewed.
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>> Anonymous
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To test out this awesome new framework,

1. Sign up for Picasaweb at http://picasaweb.google.com
2. Download and install the latest Picasa beta from http://dl.google.com/picasa/picasaweb-setup-beta.exe
3. Register for a Picasamail/Hello account at https://secure.picasa.com/support/register.php
4. Confirm your account in email
5. Download and install the latest build of "Hello" from updates.picasa.com/hello/651/Hello651.exe
6. Restart Picasa
7. Start up "Hello" and log in with the Picasamail/Hello account you just created
8. Within hello, add me as a friend. Username: v0dkaa
9. Optional: In "Hello", go to tools -> options and check "Full resolution".
10. Optional: Request pictures from http://picasaweb.google.com/images.database
>> Anonymous
I mostly do this because I made the threads to request images from http://picasaweb.google.com/images.database but I'm tired of uploading images one at a time and then waiting for each one to complete uploading before I did the next one.
>> Anonymous
>>85494
>>85495
>>85496
How much are they paying you?
>> Anonymous
>>85500
I'm not a schill, if that's what you mean. I've uploaded some 100 pics to here over the last 24 hours, and I'm getting tired of it, and I'm offering people an alternative to getting what they want. Obviously you'd rather they have nothing.
>> Anonymous
So let's see. To use this I have to install some software on my computer, from Google. Confirm my identity (e-mail). Install some more software. Wonder what Google might be doing with my information.

"The instant sharing is made possible by constant streaming of data between computers in realtime, while the streamed picture is being viewed."

Image.... streaming? What? You mean this is some kind of P2P messaging application, how do I know what is going through my system?

Can't I just upload an image to someone, or hell, e-mail it to them? What is really the need for all of this silliness?
>> Anonymous
>>85513So let's see. To use this I have to install some software on my computer, from Google. Confirm my identity (e-mail). Install some more software. Wonder what Google might be doing with my information.

What information? You never gave any.

>>Image.... streaming? What? You mean this is some kind of P2P messaging application, how do I know what is going through my system?

I don't know how you came to that conclusion, but streaming simply means that you can view content while it's being delivered to you. Other means, such as uploading an image, or emailing, not only require the uploader or emailer to sit around and wait till the image is done uploading or emailing, but the recipient also has to wait for it.

This technology, on the other hand, transfers a 10MB image file (tested) percievably instantly. As the person is viewing the file, the data from the file is being transferred to the viewer.

You know what is going through your system because it was either sent by the person you're having a conversation with, or by you.
>> Anonymous
>>85513Can't I just upload an image to someone, or hell, e-mail it to them? What is really the need for all of this silliness?

Okay, lets see. A 10MB file takes 5-10 minutes to upload. You have to upload 50x 10MB files, and you have to do them individually. You have to sit and wait for each one to complete, then initiate the transfer for the next one. The person on the other end will be waiting 250-500 minutes for you to finish before they can view all the files.

OR you could use what I'm talking about. You select 50x 10MB files, and transfer them all in one go, then walk away from the computer. You do not have to wait at all. The recipient can view all 50 images, instantly. They don't have to wait at all, either.

Which one seems more practical?
>> Anonymous
>>85520
>Okay, lets see. A 10MB file takes 5-10 minutes to upload. You have to upload 50x 10MB files, and you have to do them individually. You have to sit and wait for each one to complete, then initiate the transfer for the next one. The person on the other end will be waiting 250-500 minutes for you to finish before they can view all the files.

Someone has never heard about FTP. Who the fuck transfers files one at a time? Maybe if you like using rapidshit or similar services that are made for clueless tards.
>> Anonymous
>>85516
>What information? You never gave any.

What images you are sharing/uploading. Who you are uploading them to. And whatever else Google's software decides to collect about my computer and myself and my internet usage. Google is in the business of collecting and using information about their customers. I don't feel the urge to trust their exe's to run on my system.
>> Anonymous
>>85520
>You select 50x 10MB files, and transfer them all in one go, then walk away from the computer. You do not have to wait at all. The recipient can view all 50 images, instantly. They don't have to wait at all, either.

(pedantic mode on)

So the recipient can download/view 500MB of data in an instant? Wow, this thing really DOES sound cool if it can overcome the limitation of the user's throughput. Maybe this is some kind of new quantum computing come true?

(pedantic mode off)
>> Anonymous
>>85528
So 4chan is an FTP site now? News to me.

>>85529
I hear the latest betas of picasa come with a tinfoil hat just for people like you.

>>85532
I never said that, I said that the user can view any of the files, instantly. If you really don't believe me, perhaps you should see for yourself. Somebody wiser than I once said something about holding strong opinions on subjects one knows nothing about.
>> Anonymous
>>85553
>So 4chan is an FTP site now? News to me.

I never said 4chan was an FTP site. That would be silly.

Point I was trying to make is you were raving at how you can upload more than one file at a time with this new service. Yes, having that ability is cool, but there have been protocols out for ages to do such a thing already. Such as FTP.

Sorry if I didn't go "holy shit you mean now I can upload files without having to wait on each one of them to finish uploading before starting the next?" That has never been a problem.
>> Anonymous
>>85554
In FTP, you can upload two files rather than one at a time, but each file uploads half as fast. Likewise for n number of files, where each one uploads 1/n as fast. Like I said before, if you would try this app out, you would see what I mean. I will send you a number of pictures, and if you do not see them all instantly, then I will eat my words.
>> Anonymous
>>85553
>I never said that, I said that the user can view any of the files, instantly.

I was being pedantic...

You DID say:

>They don't have to wait at all, either.

Claiming that 500MB of downloads can be viewed instantly without waiting. You must be in marketing.

Yes maybe you can view part of the files as they are being downloaded (you don't specifically say what this does or how it works at all), but alas, 500MB of files takes time to download.
>> Anonymous
>>85555
>In FTP, you can upload two files rather than one at a time, but each file uploads half as fast. Likewise for n number of files, where each one uploads 1/n as fast. Like I said before, if you would try this app out, you would see what I mean. I will send you a number of pictures, and if you do not see them all instantly, then I will eat my words.

It was my mistake in refering to the FTP protocol as a way to upload more than one file at a time. In fact what I meant was FTP applications that are able to queue and upload files in sequence. Such as selecting to upload a whole directory of files to a server.

In this way, you do not have to "wait" for each upload to finish before initiating the rest, the FTP application you are using is able to handle this on its own.

All I was doing was giving an example of a way for moving files where you don't have to select and upload all the files individually one at a time. You were claiming Picassa was better in this regard, I was just saying there are already ways to do it.
>> Anonymous
So this would be good for sharing artbooks up to 250mb in size fairly easily? That sounds nice.

And is the "streaming" any different than downloading a pic off of 4chan? The top of the pic is visible while the bottom loads...Or is there a significant difference?
>> Anonymous
>>85560
Yes, it's good for sharing a large number of high resolution images.

As for the images, you see the whole image at once. I THINK it sharpens the image as it's streamed out.
>> Anonymous
>>85494
Let me say this very loudly - DO NOT WANT!!!
Go back to /b/! Fuck!
>> Go Picasa! Anonymous
Picasa has been out for ages! And yes it works delightfully! Give it a try! If only it worked w/ Blogger beta though...=(
>> Anonymous
Age for a way to share artbooks rather the rapidshare, one at a time on 4chan or uploading to your personal FTP (and I mean who does that anyway?).
>> Anonymous
Bump because it really is nice, and I've started a picasa web gallery too (I've still got a lot I might add): http://picasaweb.google.com/biohazix
Add me (Biohazix) in Hello if you want any of those.
>> Anonymous
More people need to get this going. Works great for me so far. It's so clean.
>> Anonymous
Damn almost the whole thread is SAME PERSON!!!!!!!!
>> Anonymous
>>85936
Yes, this entire thread, including your post, was written by some guyy named "Anonymous".