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Anonymous
This is a diagram/flowchart of Who Owns Who in the motor industry. Enjoy.
>> Anonymous
I will. Thank you.
>> Anonymous
no wai! i was actually looking for something like this, LOL.
>> Spaz
Too bad bits of it are wrong. For example, Daimler Chrysler doesn't exist anymore. Chrslyer doesnt share/sell engines with Hyundai - Hyundai gets their engine blurprints from Mitsubishi. They do not trade/exchange engines either, they simply buy the blueprints to obsolete designs. Toyota/Lexus do not share engines with BMW. Toyota has no hybrid partnership with GM (though Chrysler, BMW, and Ford do). GM and honda do not share engines. GM and Toyota share joint engineering on some projects (like the Vibe/Matrix and Corolla/Prism). Bugatti is a joint ownership between VW and Audi. Fiat and GM share Engineering and Manufacturing.

I could continue, but I wont.
>> Anonymous
>>308131

Are those changes since the date on the illustration (12/05) or were they not even correct at the time?
>> Anonymous
>>GM and honda do not share engines
look under the hood of the old Saturn Vue Red Line, and you'll find the 3.5L out of the Odyssey/RL/Pilot/MDX
>> Anonymous
>>308219
hivemind
>> Spaz
Some of the changes are post 2005, but quite a few of them are previous. For the average moron, it works just fine, but its still wrong. Like Lexus/BMW. They have never (and will never) share anything. BMW engineers take their work way to seriously (and personally) to share it with competition. Toyota has never done hybrid stuff with GM. The Hybrid project with GM, BMW, and co was started previous to 2005 by GM, where others were later invited to join in and provide capital to get access to the results, but the research work has now been completed (and GM is currently producing the transmissions developed from that research). BMW has not produced anything because their deal from the work got a hybrid that used ultra-capacitors instead of batteries and used the hybrid as a performance boost instead of fuel economy boost. Since the new emissions and fuel economy standards have now hit, BMW is not going down that path anymore. Oh and I just noticed it also says DCX and BMW exchanged engines. BMW who is in competition with Mercedes. Again, no.

And a single engine (in small quantities) for less than a 3 year period does not warrant a "shares engines" tag, when you're talking (relatively) a handful of vehicles. Not to mention while the Vue engine is a honda, it uses a unique sensor compliment, spark plugs, accessories, and even the head gaskets are not the same.

When you realize that Mitsubishi/Chrysler exchanged engines by the tens of millions over more than a twenty year period and beyond that Hyundai bought rights to many of Mitsubishi's engines (including the 4g63) its a laugh to say they "exchanged engines".

The "stock/ownership" side of this is much more accurate for 2005. The engineering/manufacturing side is, well... it was put together by journalists at a magazine. People in the industry don't bother with these things because they already know.