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For /k/
>> Bat Guano
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Thanks!

Here's a SCAR-D suppressor on a Noveske AR15.
>> Anonymous
>>439024
Noveske, good man.
>> Anonymous
They are called suppressors amerifag.
>> Anonymous
>>439982
But I'm French?!?!
>> Anonymous
Frenchfag. Voila.
>> Bat Guano
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>>439982
If the manufacturer and chief designer and patent-holder (stemming from a design made in 1908) calls them silencers, then they can be rightfully called silencers.
If this concept still causes you consternation, then please stick your head in a bucket filled with piranha fish.

Pic: an M240 machine-gun with an AAC suppressor.
>> Anonymous
>>440066
the historical term isn't always the right one. it's proper to call them my their proper term, suppressors.

If this concept still causes you consternation, then please keep your head buried in the sand, Shat Guano.
>> Anonymous
>>440097
>>439982

Fail fags at guns. Suppressors and Silencers are different things.

Silencers are Thick barrel composite Carbon, designed to muffle the sound of the gun going off.

A suppressor is a Military version of a silencer, BUT it is not designed for sound, it is a Flash Suppressor, Mainly for Night fighting so the enemy cannot locate your firing position.
>> Anonymous
>>439982

Naw, they're called silencers when they're used to muffle the sound.
>> Anonymous
>>440097
Do NOT talk shit to Bat Guano. He is one of the only guys that consistently contributes to this board with images and information.
>> Anonymous
>>440377
Well, in fairness, he's the only guy who uses a name, so we wouldn't know if anyone else contributes as much.

But, yeah, he contributes a shit load. So don't talk back to him,
>>440097
as you're a cock and he isn't.
>> Anonymous
>>440160
No.

Suppressors are suppressors, there are no such things as silencers. That term has died a while ago.

There are no "military" or "civilian" versions of suppressor, nor does any suppressor focuse purely on reducing muzzle flash. Those are called "flash suppressors".

Signed,
/k/
>> Anonymous
Is it true if you put a gun inside a watermelon and you fire it, the shot is completely silent?
>> Anonymous
>>440444
Not completely, no.

Look. The thing is, if you stick your gun into anything that could slow down the expanding gases after they exit the barrel, it will be more silent. And if you shoot subsonic ammunition, it'll naturally be even more effective, since the rounds are, well, subsonic. So no sonic crack.

A soda bottle, a potato, a box filled with cotton. It'll all "trap" the soundwaves and slow down gases to a certain degree.
>> Anonymous
>>440419
you're still wrong, and here's why.

silencers: silence the sound

suppressors: suppress the flash

have a nice day.
>> Anonymous
>>440377
>>440410
I contribute more than shat guano, the difference between he and I is that I don't expect credibility in return, and I don't ask mindless follower faggots to defend me.
>> Mr. Repost
>>440377
>>440410

^This

Sage because this post isn't content.
>> Bat Guano
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>>440451
I believe you may be confusing flash hiders with suppressors.
The term 'silencer' and 'suppressor' are basically interchangeable. The silencer name is out of fashion, and today these noise muffling devices that attach to ends of gun barrels are more commonly called suppressors. This is seen as a more accurate name, as these devices do not make the shot completely silent, but reduce the noise the fired round makes by a number of decibels. Furthermore, the word 'silencer' is a bit of a brand name since that was the name American inventor Hiram Maxim called his (and the world's) first commercially successful model around 1902. Maxim gave his device the trademarked name, the 'Maxim Silencer' as the OP shows and what this thread is about (the image was far too large to post in /k/ and Seafire was gracious enough to post it here). So silencer is regarded as a brand name, sort of in the same way that 'Band Aid' is synonymous with small adhesive bandages. Pretty much everyone calls them Band Aids, no matter who manufactures them.
But since the above original picture was of a Maxim Silencer, and since Maxim invented them, it seems strangely inappropriate to rail so much that they are currently referred to as suppressors.
Pic: Advanced Armament Corp. (AAC) Silencer Shoot poster advertisement.
They are a large manufacturer of silencers/suppressors. If they too are cool about calling their product silencers, I don't see what the problem is.
>> Bat Guano
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Here's another piece on Maxim Silencers by http://www.olegvolk.net

Between 1902-1934, silencers could be sold or mailed without any restrictions.
Now, in the USA, the restrictions are serious and burdensome and the penalties for violating them are severe.
>> Anonymous
bat guano? more like FAT guano!

also: he's a newfag
>> Bat Guano
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Some AAC flash hiders with quick detach mounts for suppressors.

These cage-like flash hiders are found on the muzzles of many modern military-style rifles and they help to reduce the muzzle flash of the fired rounds. Some are effective at reducing the felt recoil of the shot be directing the expanded gasses slightly back towards the shooter.

Suppressors greatly arrest the muzzle flash by trapping the flaming gas within the chambers of the suppressor, as well as reducing the noise of the shot.
>> Bat Guano
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AAC quick detach mount for M4-2000.
>> Anonymous
>>440470
Whatever, he posts loads of good images on any topic with descriptions (all I can manage for OC is lots, and lots, and lots of racing cars). Newfag? STFU. You don't gain kudos for being here longer, you gain kudos for posting good hr OC. Which he does. So shut up.

Bat Guano - excellent as ever.
>> Anonymous
For the DIY'ers, you can easily modify a standard lawn mower muffler (also an "exhaust silencer") for fitting on handgun. However, this would be against the law and the ATF might come and burn your house down with you in it, so be warned.
>> Anonymous
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no sonic crack????
>> Bat Guano
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>>440847
If you are referring to the noise a high-velocity bullet will make when it breaks the sound barrier (761 mph at sea level), then yes, most suppressors can't muffle that noise. But some special designs can reduce the bullet's velocity so that it travels below the speed of sound. These are typically 'integral' suppressors that wrap around the length of the barrel as well as having a baffle section in front of the muzzle. A number of holes are drilled through the walls of the barrel, allowing some of the cartridge's gasses to escape into this expansion chamber, reducing the amount of burning gasses actually pushing the bullet and therefore reducing the velocity of the bullet to below the speed of sound. This effectively muffles the round's report and eliminates the sonic crack of the bullet.

Another way to eliminate this noise is to use subsonic ammunition (reduced powder charge in the cartridge or a more heavy bullet).

Pic: Cross section diagram of Heckler & Koch MP5SD early model suppressor, from H&K 1971 patent. Vented barrel surrounded by metal mesh packing in expansion chambers, followed by conical baffles in forward chambers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppressor


The Soviets and currently Russians use special 'silent ammo' that had a piston system within the cartridge that pushed the bullet when fired, but contained the expanding gas within the cartridge. http://world.guns.ru/ammo/sp-e.htm
>> Bat Guano
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An HK MP5SD5 with integral suppressor being fired.
>> Anonymous
>>440906
I don't know why, but I lol'd at the no smoking sign.
>> Bat Guano
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Yeah, that no smoking sign is bullshit.

When I go to the range, I usually bring my favorite gun, a reproduction of a Swedish 1609 .75 caliber matchlock musket. It works by jamming a lit fuze (a long slow-burning rope that had been soaked in saltpeter, aka Potassium nitrate) into the flash pan to ignite the flash powder that sets off the main black powder charge. As a result, there's a lot of smoke at my shooting station.

As a safety matter, I certainly would not smoke tobacco around open containers of black powder. That would be silly.

Pic: my matchlock .75 caliber matchlock musket, 10 gauge flintlock blunderbuss shotgun, and Traditions .50 caliber flintlock Trapper pistol.
>> Anonymous
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springfield armory m1 idk what kinda scope
>> Anonymous
>>441037

looks like a leupold scope
>> Anonymous
>>440377
>>440410
>>440491

Wow, such a collection of ass-lickers. Threw up a little there.
>> Anonymous
>>441514
o hi newfag. Meet the one namefag that is worth a shit: Bat Guano
>> Anonymous
>>441786
o hi newfag. Meet a generic, replaceable namefag that isn't worth more than anybody else: Bat Guano
>> Anonymous
>>441786
>the one namefag that is worth a shit
Lulz.

Newfag.
>> Anonymous
fuck, im a fitter and turner and i would love to know how that silencer was made... i could make it, but only in 2 halfs that would have to be welded together... i dont see any weld marks and gaps on that silencer...
>> Anonymous
>>441804
google "K Baffles".

by the way, it's illegal to make a suppressor without BATFE approval and/or a license
>> Anonymous
>>441808
Don't generalize. Depends on the country.
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>>440470
>>440453
>>441514
>>441795
>> Anonymous
>>442602

Great, genius. Now how many countries have the BATFE?

So long as the namefags and tripfags keep contributing awesome pics, it doesn't matter to me what the rest of you shitheads think.

>I don't expect credibility in return

I loled. You just shot yourself in the foot, Anon.