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ARG PS ! Anonymous
Help /hr/ !

So I shooped this image (using ps godly surface blur), etc etc until I had a picture which looked a lot better than the original, saved it and then UGGGHHHHHH!!!

Were do these fucking artefacts come from ? They arent in the ps file...

And no, I did not only save as jpeg... I tried png, tif, tga, god even bloody uncompressed bmp!!
All looked different than the photoshop view...

(And its just a coincidence that I used a haruhi pic for testing...)
>> Anonymous
>>127324
it means u are fucking stupid LOL
set higher the quality when u save the shit
>> Anonymous
lol it's a fucking jpeg, you're gonna get artifacts. Just save it at max quality and don't worry about it. Your other option is to save as a png or a tif(tif? maybe you could pull your necktie til you can't breathe! harharhar)
>> Anonymous
>>127327here,
how the fuck do you know waht a lossy artifact even IS and NOT know that jpeg compression generates them?
>> Anonymous
>>127326
>>127327

do you guys read a post before you post !?

already said it,
I TRIED PNG / TGA / UNCOMPRESSED !!!

they all look like the right image ....

i used print to capture the screen i have with ps ...

and yeah fucktards, the op pic is a jpg... but do you see artefacts on the left picture, like on the right ?

no ?
>> Anonymous
What's wrong with the 4200x11606 versoin at http://moe.imouto.org/post/view/4294?
>> Anonymous
>>127331

i cleaned theirs, but cant save it lol ...
>> Anonymous
     File :-(, x)
>>127333

mine one the left
theirs on the right...
>> Anonymous
Post PNG
>> Anonymous
     File :-(, x)
>>127340

i cant post the full png here (more than 10k resolution, bigger than 10mb)

however
heres the "half" version

looks like shit, compared to what i see in photoshop...

or is my firefox , irfanview AND imageready broken ?!
>> Anonymous
>>127343
That png doesn't seem to have any artefacts. Definitely doesn't have the ones you circled in the OP pic, so maybe it's just your viewer that's broken after all. The OP looks like it had some color quantization applied, did you perhaps save it as 256 color picture?
>> Anonymous
>>127345

so this png has a better quality than
http://orz.4chan.org/hr/src/1174423960109.jpg?

or does this jpg have no artifacts, too ?

i still see the circled artefacts , especially in her hair...

i opened it with irfanview, firefox 1.5.0.10 , and adobe imageready...

all had artefacts...

only photoshop cs2 shows it without... then again, it blows the picture to up ~3x mb ...

>> Anonymous
     File :-(, x)
>>127346
This is a complete shot in the dark, but if you have your display settings set to Large size (120dpi) or something like that and you're using an LCD (or maybe a CRT, haven't checked), all images will look like trash in any viewer. I first noticed a problem like this when setting up a new laptop for my parents who didn't like the tiny text on the screen. Also, if you're using an LCD you probably already have this right, but just in case make sure you're using the native resolution of the panel.

See selected dropdown in attached image (sorry had to make it hueg to post here, enjoy some Mai).
>> Megadeus
Looks like you're down-sampling it to undithered, indexed color. Are you saving it in 8-bits/channel RGB? Also on the save file dialog window, make sure ICC profile is unchecked...
>> Anonymous
>>127373
requesting the largest variant you have of the wallpaper in this post please.
>> Anonymous
     File :-(, x)
>>127394
I have a couple, starting with the original
>> Anonymous
     File :-(, x)
>>127394
Followed by a cleaned up one i found on internets (probably either here or /w/)
>> Anonymous
     File :-(, x)
>>127394
and then a cropped and barely stretched one for my lcd with some additional smoothing to try and cover up the terrible jpeg artifacts
>> Anonymous
     File :-(, x)
>>127394
and lastly this one which I like more, but needs the Mai Kawasumi text removed before I'll let it have my desktop

sorry for the flood of unrelated imagery :/
>> Anonymous
>>127402
>>127400
>>127399
>>127398

im going to try to reclean the original properly.
>> Anonymous
>>127399
and
>>127398
come from 2 different scan sources.

note the extra moon and scenery along the top in that one, there are other differences as well.

id love to see the original that 1600x1200 came from, because the posted original is not the one they used for it.
>> Anonymous
Subject was shopped out of
>>127398
... and placed onto a new background to make
>>127402

It's pretty obvious.
>> Anonymous
>>127373
lol, thats it! :]

had it set to 120dpi on my lcd...
now i cant see artefacts :]
(and my version finally looks a bit better)

>>127384
hmm, does this make trouble ?
ps says its only 8bit per channel color
>> Anonymous
>>127343
Please use masks to turn down the oversmoothing in textured areas, like the lower left of the mirror. So many good scans get ruined by blindly smearing shit everywhere.
>> Anonymous
>>127487

What really drives me crazy is that now they're gone for you, but I still see the artifacts. And so do most people on LCD monitors who don't change them. So, how to satisfy everyone? :D
>> Anonymous
>>127343
how about putting it in a rar and rapidshit?
>> Anonymous
>>127496
well i cant change others lcd settings... :<
>> Anonymous
yeah, i know, i was just wondering if there was a universal fix of any kind. i clean images on my PC CRT and then look at it on my brother's Mac and it's completely different. it's depressing.
>> Megadeus
>>127487

8-bits per channel, RGB is normal. Eight bits multiplied by the three channels (red, green, blue) is 24-bits total. Standard JPG only supports 24-bit RGB or 8-bit grayscale (and very few formats support 16-bits per channel) so I thought perhaps you or Photoshop might have be changing the image mode when saving.
>> Anonymous
>>127543
i think what>>127527is talking about is display calibration.

windows simply doesn't have it, on a mac there are options which result in pinpoint control of the display gamma. this means you either:
a)- make it look good on windows and oversaturated or otherwise cruddy on macs
b)- make it look good on mac and otherwise cruddy on windows.
>> Anonymous
>>127560
also.. apple's "preview" app (the picture viewer for osX) has an antialiasing bug. if you view a picture zoomed in to the point it's larger than the window and/or screen, then you'll end up with ugly jaggies, etc.
>> Diablo-D3 !962cuLUHAc
>>127543
Thats not entirely true. Photoshop comes with a (slightly shitty but better than nothing) calibrating app.

Hell, I've calibrated with nothing but a gamma chart and the gamma sliders in ATI's or nvidia's driver control panels.

So yes, Windows /can/ calibrate.
>> Anonymous
>>127373
lol, rechanged it (cause it was harder to close windows and stuff bc everything was smaller... )

and ITS STILL OK !!

Its the colordepth not the 120or 96dpi of you monitor that is important !
Highcolor (16bit) = UGH
Truecolor (32bit) = OK !

so for those who only changed their displaysetting with 120-96dpi... try higher colordepht/colorquality ^^
>> Anonymous
Who still uses 16 bit colour anyway?

I think the moral is; don't use large fonts. If you can't see text it means either:
a) You're monitor resolutions too f88king high. Turn it back to 1024 x 768.
b) You need glasses.
LOL
>> Anonymous
>>127596

most 19° lcds are best in 1280x1024 ...
>> Anonymous
>>127578
All of those things are modifiable without changing the DPI. Go to display properties->Appearance->Advanced and you can change everything from font size to the size of the minimize/restore/close buttons in the corner of every window. You should be able to set large fonts somewhere in there too, all without messing with the DPI setting at all.

Also, 16bit desktop lol
>> Anonymous
And while the thread is at the top of the page anyway...
Did>>127409ever get around to cleaning up any of those pics? :)
>> Anonymous
LCD are made of fail
>> MR. Anon
so can we have the cleaned up final version in a RARed png file?
>> MR. Anon
>Who still uses 16 bit colour anyway?
Many low end LCDs take the image sent to them and dither them down to 16 bit.
The more you know....
*hugs his 24in crt*
>> Anonymous
My 40" KDL-40XBR LCD Monitor (also a tv) is no LCD fail, 1920x1080 goodness and its really big, and clear!!
>> Anonymous
>>127745
uploading right now

made 3 versions
1 like>>127343
1 without the mirror+wall edited
1 without mirror+wall smoothed, but color changed

hope you find something usefull in it
*brb@15min*
>> Anonymous
>>127945
done
http://rapidshare.com/files/22395728/haruhi-mirror-cleaned-png.rar.html

hope its usefull for someone
>> Yoones
to OP, when you work on Phtoshop, do you calibrate your screen in the display menu?
you need to calibrate it, then when you save it will look like what you see in photoshop.
affichage > format d'epreuve (can't translate it)
>> Anonymous
>>127949
oh, gotta check that, too