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Visiting the gf for the weekend and she wants to "experiment" with new bondage ideas other than the typical handcuffs & rope. She's into just about anything... which is fucking awesome!

Ideas?

Pic somewhat related
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>> Anonymous
Have you tried gagging her? It's hot when they drool.

Also, do you just tie her up and fuck her, or have you tried doing other stuff while she's tied up? Deny orgasm? Play with her asshole?
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>> Anonymous
Sometimes even simple sensory games can be fun. Get her to slowly caress her own body and control the sensations, then take away the control from her her. Getting your submissive to feel the true release of control over what happens to her is a key part of SM. How strict are you guys?
>> Anonymous
This is relevant to my interests. New dom, g/f is somewhat experienced sub (not 24/7 or anything, we're keeping it in the bedroom). We JUST started talking about this so I'm interested in any good info/ideas. Please, go on...
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>> Anonymous
>>320652

well-placed saran wrap works well and can look really fucking hot
>> Anonymous
>>320687

I was in your exact position a few months ago. We both feel the same as you two, just in the bedroom. The best thing to do could be (as everyone is different) to try and narrow in on specificaly what gets you off, and what gets her off. I myself get off entirely on her reactions, so it's very important for me to find what works on her.

A way to slowly move up the bodage scale is to look at it in three levels. The first level is strictly sense based. There is no roleplay here, no master/slave realationship, only sensory play. You can go from my original suggestion with the body caressing and then taking away control, putting her in more tight bondage (which it sounds like you have experience with) then working on her form sensory games to pain/pleasure games.
>> Anonymous
Essentially the first level is all sensory, from flirty to moderately harsh.

The second level is about introducing a dom/sub relationship. This level establishes who is in control, and starts to firm up those roles. While in the first level it was all about finding out what you both liked, in this level you should start actually dominating and setting out secifically what is going to happen. You should start to take almost full control over what happens in your sequences, and how you want to torture and pleasure your sub.

A good starting point for this level can be by ordering her to stand perfectly still what you look at her, caress her, even hurt her a little. Then you can move up to more commands like kneeling, presenting different parts of her body to you. Along with this you should bring up the intensity of the bondage, sensory play, and pain/pleasure play.
>> Anonymous
>>320701

Thanks (I'm not OP by the way, I'm>>320687)

So basically it would be something like what we normally do during foreplay, but essentially switching it from "us all over each other" to "me all over her" through the process of bondage (we have restraints), something like that?

Also, I'm with you, me in control of her getting off on the experience is a huge part of what I want out of it.
>> Anonymous
most adult toy stores sell a pvc tape that sticks to iself and and not your skin. have fun
>> Anonymous
>>320725

Exactly. One of the biggest parts of SM is the loss of control, that's why so many of us crave it along with our other reasons.

Our very first time we were both naked, I had my gflean back in my lap while I spoke very softly to her; director her hands all over her body. As I directed them over her I told her to focus on the electricity, to feel the sensation tingle from each finger tip to each patch of skin she touched. I asked her how she felt, she said it was wonderful, I told her to let that transfer to her face etc for me, not to hold anything back. I brought into her mind the control she had over the wonderful sensation, then I grabbed both her hands held them by the wrists together with one hand over her head, while I used my other hand to continue tracing her body. She nearly came as she felt the power suddenly taken from her, which I of course brought to her attention. Getting her to feel the excitement of the energy transfer of fingertips to skin, without her having any control.
>> Anonymous
>>320743

That does sound hot - hope you don't mind my stealing the script, so to speak (because, I totally am).

We've talked about more involved stuff already, like orgasm denial, throat-fucking (like I said, she has experience, I'll just try not to think about where she learned it) but maybe I should hold off on that, not jump in too quickly? I don't want to stumble around, or try to do everything in one session, lol Unless she asks for that stuff during, which I suppose I should then make her beg for, so it's more like my choice to reward it.
>> Anonymous
The third tier is all about instituting the full master/slave relationship. this is of course different for all people, so I can't really advise how to go about this. After moving through the first two levels you should know how strict you are ready to be.

One thing you can try is simply calling each other master and slave, move into those personas and the rest comes with. You can go from having a strict relationship with full rules, commands, postures, practices etc. Or you could simply have her be your little sex slave, and you her sex master. Or preferablly in the beginning anywhere inbetween.

My gf and I have a relationship where we cann each other by master and slave. I take the role of full authority, and can order her at will, but we have no set rules, positions or commands yet. I don't forsee us having any positions or set commands, but I will be instituting some rules next time I see her. Despite having full control, my only desire is to see her get off, and be in a little pain, then get off because of said pain, so we're never going to become terribly sadistic.

Please ask me for more clarification and advice as I am terrible at explaining things first off.

Keep in mind I am no expert, I've only had very good experiences, and only want people to play safe, sane and consensual.
>> Anonymous
op sauce:
http://www.weblo.com/domain/General/jennajameson.net/460947/
>> Anonymous
>>320750

Finding the right rate to progress is tricky, my advice would be that if she has prior experience, use it.

Simple idea: make her kneel in front of you and tell you what she has had done to her, and what she wants you to do for her, yes make her beg a little.

Orgasm denial, throat fucking etc, are all great things for the humiliation part of SM. I can't give you advice in these since I want to see my slave cum, and I want her to go after my cock, not have me force it on her (much).

Idea, tie her up in one position that gives you access to as much of her body as possible, then choose a body part (say tits), ask her what she would like you to do to them, or how she would like them to be punished, then do something else to them and make her beg for what she wants. etc.

Make her end every statement with master maybe.
>> Anonymous
>>320757

I don't think we'll get into a total master/slave ting (but you never know, right?) so it's mostly about sexual control with us, I think. For instance even though we're keeping it "in the bedroom", I mentioned pocketing a little vibrator and making her go to the bathroom at some restaurant or something and get off (or get close and STOP), stuff like that.

How about this - do you usually get off at the end of a session? Or during, and then keep it up with her. I've noticed when we'd have regular sex, I remain interested in doing things with her even after I shoot.
>> Anonymous
>>320765

Good ideas, all of them. Thanks. What about spanking/slapping? I've watched a bunch of videos at hogtied, sexandsubmission, stuff like that. Are those guys being too procedural? I know it's different for everyone of course, but I don't want to come across like I'm reading a script.
>> Anonymous
You have to make it degrading but still respect her when it's over. Thus 1 part sexism two parts prison torture is needed. Don't go slow with sex. Be vigorous and fast the whole while. If she's shorter have sex standing up while you spin her around. Then move on to the easiest part of the body to tear up:the ass. Smack it, cut your initials into it, and espicially press hot pans against it. The whole while demand she take it in the ass or you'll continue. Then cum in her ass and make her lick your dick and worship you
>> Anonymous
>>320769

Yeah I pretty much do. It's often in different ways, and the number of times I've come depends on how long/what type of... session, date, fuck? I don't know.
>> Anonymous
>>320765

>Idea, tie her up in one position that gives you access to as much of her body as possible, then choose a body part (say tits), ask her what she would like you to do to them, or how she would like them to be punished, then do something else to them and make her beg for what she wants. etc.

Another idea I'm stealing :)
>> Anonymous
>>320773

yeah, I don't like labeling either, the whole "scene" thing isn't really what we want, since we're in a relationship. It's not really like this structured thing.
>> Anonymous
I'm assuming I should be careful about keeping other stuff OUT of the bedroom, like past, shall we say, indiscretions on her part. Like, I shouldn't tie her up and then include that in play - for instance, no "suck my dick like you sucked his" type stuff?
>> Anonymous
>>320770

the kink.com sites are of course all about the pinnacle of the most intense bondage. Yes they are procedural, and they like myself do have a sort of script inside their head, they know what they want to do when. Of course a lot of what they do is too intenst for me, and a lot of what they do might be too structured for you. you've just gotta find your own groove.

>>320776

Well I don't label it because it's just another part of our sex life, but for us it's a separate part of it. We have our relationship/soft sex personas, and our SM personas. The two are largely the same, we both just want to see each other happy. But I'm a doormat in RL (pardon the gaming term, but it works), and she's more cocky.
>> Anonymous
>>320786

>But I'm a doormat in RL, and she's more cocky.

Same here, in fact this is how we started talking about it because she told me she was a sub and thought I was more of a sub than her - at which point I was like, LET'S JUST SEE ABOUT THAT (which totally turned her thinking around). She had experience before but somehow we didn't communicate properly and I thought she did'nt like doing it, so I never mentioned/tried anything until now.
>> Anonymous
>>320783

Probably. However getting her beg for the same treatment she got without directly refrencing it is probably cool. Everyone is different.

>>320771
I'd take this guys last bits of advice only if she was really into HC masochism. The first sentence is perfect though.
>> Anonymous
>>320788

That's awesome.

btw how to you do the beige green text quote thing?
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>>320789

Yeah, I'd also rather not think about her with that guy anyways.. bleh.

The other advice about respecting her, not a problem with me, at all.
>> Anonymous
>>320790

Thanks - I think she was ready to bail on me, even (even though everything else was okay). To do that beige thing:

> put a greater-than sign in front of the text.
>> Anonymous
>>320794

Yeah, of course some disrespect can be fun. ex: "Now get down and suck on my cock slave. That's a good little whore. Now where do you want me to come?" (insert place she says here) "Oh really, but I thought you'd like if I came here (insert more degrading place)." Then depending on what her respense is, or how degrading you with to be come in/on that place, then compliment her on what a good little cock sucker or slave she is; degradation, respect and praise all in one.
>> Anonymous
>>320796

> Thanks

Anything need clairification? I am teh shit at explaining things (note the large amount of examples).
>> Anonymous
>>320802

Totally doing that, I'm into making her beg me to do nasty stuff, and we've always talked nasty in the past - she'd say "shoot your cum in my mouth" etc, I mean, that's tame but you get the idea. I'm imagining her telling me to shoot it say, on her tits, and then I instead grab her hair and shoot in her face, that kind of thing.
>> Anonymous
>>320804

Actually, giving examples is EXACTLY what I could use (that's how I explain things to people). So if you can maybe say some more scenarios? Even if you think you're oversimplifying them, that's fine, I'm more looking for general ideas at this point (as opposed to all kinds of details like "first I put the ankle cuffs, then the wrists, then the etc etc" lol)
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>I myself get off entirely on her reactions, so it's very important for me to find what works on her.

I was going to say, I think you have close to what I have, because I don't really sit around going "gee I'd like to throat fuck her" specifically, but her wanting me to do that, and asking for it specifically, is HOT, so I imagine doing that to her and seeing her reaction is going to get me off.

(btw posting pics of positions etc that I do find hot, like this one - use a vibrator to get her close to cumming and then surprise her by playing wtih her asshole to see if she likes it)
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Just having her pose for me and use her as a jackoff toy is going to be awesome.
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I need a sturdy table.
>> Anonymous
Hay OP:
Tie her up bent over a chair/table/back of a couch, then wave a kitchen knife in front of her eyes long enough for her to see it.. Then take a letter opener and carefully insert it into her vag00. Instant mindfuck.
>> Anonymous
OP here, thanks for all the suggestions; there are quite a lot I'm going to implement. I think she'll thoroughly enjoy them.

We haven't done any gagging yet, but I can tell she shows moderate interest in it. We switch roles quite a bit in the bedroom. She has her turn at being dommed and then I have mine. The biggest goal for me is to make her cum when she has no control of it. I simply just enjoy when she is out of complete control of her body's reactions.

So far, she loves when I tie her up and just fuck the hell out of her, spanking her, and biting all over her body. The only thing she's opposed to is asshole play

I've thought about getting a remote-controlled mini-vibrator and when we're at a party, I have the remote and the receiver is buried within her pussy so I can control when it turns on.

Any other suggestions, tips, tricks, resources for more suggestions?
>> Anonymous
Blood ftw
>> Anonymous
>>319988
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Hi thar.

For me, asking my gf what she wants and then doing something else, and making her beg for what she wants is big turn-on. Also, when she is begging, I like to ask her how much slaps on the ass/tits/whatever or other form of pain she would be willing to endure for the thing she wants. Off course, I'll refuse her offer and continue with what she doesn't like. Typically, she'll up her offer, and at a point where I am happy with the deal it will be done. I try to not do this to often though, you don't want the outcome of the negotiations to be predictable.

Also, adding sensory deprivation to the sex can be good times. You can easily blindfold her, but to make it more interesting, try deafening (is that a word? I'm not a native speaker) her with ear plugs. That way it is harder for her to anticipate what's coming, so she can't prepare for it. It is another loss of control for her.

If she is into painplay, a simple clothe peg in the right place *cough* clit */cough* does wonders.

You can take the orgasm denial a step further by making it pleasure denial. When fucking her, command her to focus on an area with a cloth peg on it, for instance. command her to focus on the pain.

Also, pic related. Found it yesterday over on /s/ and gonna try it on my gf tomorrow. Yeeh.
>> Anonymous
Are there many D/S instructional videos? Aka not just porn, but teaching you the emotional aspect as well? I would be interested.
>> Anonymous
>>321134
I was also opposed to anything anal before I tried it. And now I love it.

If you can get her to, start her slowly with some lube and a couple fingers.

She will thank you in the end.
>> Anonymous
I'm a dominant guy, have had plenty of submissives.

It sounds like you're just starting out, but as you advance (or for the more advanced) I would recommend a safe word.

I give my subs a safe word and they know that's there out. Once that's in place, you can push boundaries as far as you'd like. If I think I've gone too far, I can ask, "You do remember your safe word, right, cunt?" and if they reply in affirmative, I keep going. It frees up both of you to really explore and push limits :)
>> Anonymous
Riding crops and spanking paddles are very, very fun.
>> Anonymous
>>321203
THIS MAN SPEAKS TROOTH
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>>321134
>The biggest goal for me is to make her cum when she has no control of it.

Hitachi Magic Wand - GET ONE, Overwhelming at first but there's a reason you see it used in all those forced orgasm videos. Trust me on this - it'll be the best $40-$50 yu ever spent.
>> Anonymous
>>321225

seconded.

(and fyi it's noko not noku)
>> Ed Wood
>>321203
> as you advance (or for the more advanced) I would recommend a safe word.

Actually, I would recommend a safe word as early as possible. Later on, if things get really serious, you can always do without it. As part of going from be a sub to being my slave, my gf gave back her safe word.
>> Ed Wood
>>321134
> Any other suggestions, tips, tricks, resources for more suggestions?

The most intense stuff is psychological. It will take some work but find out where her limits are. I had one sub who had a major hangup about urine. Once I found that out, in two weeks I had her begging me to pee on her and had her drinking her own out of a dog food bowl. For other women, it's different things.
>> Anonymous
http://www.tube8.com/fetish/tamed-and-transformed/71480/
>> Anonymous
hey ed wood....

how did you get her to go from not liking piss to begging for it? I want that kind of command over my sub...