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How far is too far to push a friend with extreme benefits? Anonymous
Pics unrelated, they're just the bait so I can gather your opinions.

I have a female friend that gives me benefits. Even though there is no official romantic attachment, she lets me do things that some swinging married couples I know won't even engage in. Basically, there are a few things she won't do and everything else is fair game. (I jokingly asked her to put it in writing for my birthday one day and she took my suggestion seriously.)

Well, I have been pushing her limits, what few there are. The funny thing is, despite the degrading, humiliating things I have her do (she is very into it), I like her a lot as a person. I don't know that I would be into some of this stuff if she didn't like it, but I am the first one she has ever done it with. I had thought about some of these things before I met her, but haven't met many women that are into these types of things, let alone almost all of them.

She offered to bring in a girlfriend of hers, and this would not be your typical one guy, two girls scenario. I like her friend as a person too, but I don't want to risk ruining their friendship together. Let's just say that even if both of them are giving their consent for some of this stuff, I don't know how they would ever look at each other the same way again.

I can fill in details of the types of things I have her do, and that she is willing to do but hasn't done yet. I just didn't want this initial post to read like a letter to some R-rated magazine where a couple that has sex somewhere other than the bed things they are bold and daring.
>> Anonymous
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Oh, and I put this in here instead of /b/ because it is specifically sex-related, and the acts definitely fall under /hc/.
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>> Anonymous
>I just didn't want this initial post to read like a letter to some R-rated magazine where a couple that has sex somewhere other than the bed things they are bold and daring.

One has tried, one has failed, one must now post moar.
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>> Anonymous
Tell us of these things.
>> Anonymous
is this her?
>> Anonymous
This smells like bullshit. But post more of the girl, anyway.
>> Anonymous
No; read more, newfag.
>> Anonymous
No, these pics are not her. Somewhat similar in appearance, though.

I started her out on anal. From there it went to fisting. She swears that all of the pics I showed her of women with gaping assholes had to be fakes, that the human asshole can't actually be ruined like that. That led to the start of our monthly wrecking parties where I would have a few people over and we would spend the weekend taking turns on her ass.

She drinks piss. Mine. Her own. Other peoples' if I tell her or if she is already sucking them off and they don't want to take time out to run to the bathroom.

These are people that she doesn't know except through me though, and I am thinking of having her engage in some of this with her best friend of many years.
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>> Anonymous
You fucking moron, get her mate round & do it.

You've already ruined any chance of having a normal, loving relationship. So just have a do-whatever benefits relationship.

More pics, btw.
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If I was reading it here or anywhere else, I would also say it smelled like bullshit. So feel free to flame away, it makes no difference to me.
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Yeah, that's the problem. If we were in a romantic-type relationship, we probably wouldn't be doing this kind of stuff, and if we did it probably wouldn't stay that type of relationship. In either case, neither one of us would be happy, but we're happy with things as they are.

I just don't know how it would go over if she loses her best friend of many years over it. She knows her better than I do, though.
>> Anonymous
I, for one, enjoyed reading OP's lies.
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That's the funny part. The ones who have been invited in thought it was a joke or bullshit at first too. So as I said, flame all you want. When you're in possession of the truth and get the full benefit of it regardless of what other people believe is the truth, you cease to care what they believe is the truth.
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>> Anonymous
Got any of this girl getting fucked?
>> Anonymous
If you don't do it she will find someone else who will.
>> Anonymous
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Blowjob pictures only from her, sorry.
>> Anonymous
>>280857

whatever, enjoy lying anonymously on teh internets
>> Anonymous
>>280857

Except that your exact logic just said, word-for-word, you "cease to care" if other people dont' think you're telling the truth.

If you really didn't care, you wouldn't explain that point and use it as evidence of your truthfulness.

It's the common "smart-ass" logical argument of the moron who thinks their bullshit is so sweet nobody could possibly pick up on it.
>> Anonymous
Okay, I'm here to actually engage you in discussion: does she do this because she enjoys the acts themselves, or because she enjoys pleasing you/whoever?
>> Anonymous
OP, one question:

When you were fucking her with a bunch of other guys, did you ever look at their cocks? Were they nice?
>> Anonymous
OP, I have an honest question for you. Has she told you why she lets you do what you do? Better yet, Have you asked the question of yourself? If she's okay with it, let it happen. If you're okay with it, let it happen, so long as you don't do harm to her.
>> Anonymous
1. what is she willing to do that she has not yet done.

2. Why do you think that her friend would not be into this shit? If they are bi, why have they not fucked, if the friend isn't bi, have they talked at any length about you two perving hardcore on each other?

(two questions, answer them both)
>> Anonface !ccqXAQxUxI
Just post more of the girl.
>> Anonymous
there's more of this girl right?
>> Anonymous
OP is full of shit.
Also these pix are of a well-known amateur porn star.

Go fuck yourself and die, lying OP.

I don't believe you have a friend.
Enjoy masturbating while thinking about dicks.... alone.
>> Anonymous
>>281098

>Pics unrelated
>> Anonymous
idiots need to learn how to read
>> Anonymous
Also OP, if she is as kinky as you say she is, she wouldn't object to having her picture and likeness uploaded to 4chan while she's doing things. Do it. Prove you're not just a virgin who likes to dream. PROVE IT.
>> Anonymous
try some ass to mouth with her.
>> Anonymous
post more newfags
>> ivyandyou !dAiq1LGTmM
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OP's a fuckin liar
>> Anonymous
wait, did you say that girl in the pic was here? I'm sorry, but i find it hard to believe a girl who looks as old as she does with as many tattoos as she has has now just started to explore things sexually. You said you're the first person she's done these things with...

i find that hard to believe because this type of behavior is smoething that is started early and built upon. No one wakes up one day and says "i want to try everything under the sun" especially when they look as uninhibited as a girl with tattoos and that style.

so either you're lying or she is lying by telling you that she has never done these things before.
>> Anonymous
she probably told everything u guys do to her friend, so don´t worry
>> Anonymous
cool story bro
>> Anonymous
>>280836
sorry, didnt read that part about it not being her.

btw, have fun with std's. Yeah, i've never fisted a girl but guess what? I've never fucked a girl who likes being fisted by numerous guys and who swallows piss. That's the type of shit you could do once and leave it alone but bro, you're taking alot of risks by consistently fucking around with this girl. U really think she never did any of this before? And do you really think she's not doing it with other guys you don't know of? what do you think she does in her off time? Wait around for you to come and tell her to swallow your buddies piss?
>> Anonymous
I have deduced from your posts that your fetish is limit-pusing. Not that your specific fetish pushes limits, but that the pushing of limits is your fetish. Your girl has laid down some laws and since you can´t do those things you are posting on the chan to try and get some new weird kinks that haven´t been blacklisted yet. You will then do those things and get bored and eventually you will get all worked up and try to get her to do the things she said she wouldn´t do.

Here is the normal procedure for fuck buddies: Sex in any position, kissing ok, oral usually not ok, don´t ask any questions about other relationships, no romantic dinners, you can spend the night but you have to leave before 9 the next day.

What you have is a fuckbuddy that has exceeded the normal parameters. If you had one thing you enjoyed you would have reached that point (anal) and then tried to do it as much as you could while trying to keep the relationship to an absolute minimum. That point does not exist for you so you will let this thing expand indefinitely until it collapses. You will either fight with her about the weird bondage shit that she won´t let you do or you will start trying to get a romance going so that the humiliating things you do are more humiliating.

Either way you´re going down so just realize the fact.
>> Anonymous
>>281181
pretty fucking spot on. this is beyond normal fuck buddies. I'm not envious in any sort of way. This shit is just bad news for you dude. One or both of you are completely fucked up in the head and that's never a good thing. Someone is gonna come out of this with a few scars.
>> Anonymous
Basicly, if she is like that, her friend probably knows. Girls tell eachother everything. You would be messing up her relationship more if you would deny her friend. Cause obviously her friends wants to try as well. Just know that she might not go as far as your friend. So basicly thats the only danger you have to look out for.

Also, ID on the photos? Who is she?
>> Anonymous
>>281194
I kinda ignored all the talk after the first post, will read more now. hehe...
>> Anonymous
NO Id on OP Pic?
>> Anonymous
ID pics plx!
>> Anonymous
I lol'd at the 'friend' part. There is nothing 'friendly' about this.
>> Basement Dwelling Troll !MFbxgC5u3.
women are fickle creatures. proceed with caution op
>> You're kidding, right? Fascinated
WTF are you waiting for??? I'd give my right arm to be set up like this! If your FWB is willing to bring a 3rd girl into it, I 100% guarantee you that she has 1) already vetted the idea with the other girl and 2) they have gone lez with each other before. Short answer: F*ck them both or I will!
>> Anonymous
i do know some girls who shared some guys
nothing rare about it
tape it when you fuck em or you'll regret
>> Anonymous
>>281098
Who is this "well known amateur porn star?"

I only ask because she reminds me of a girl I know and, uh, you know where this is going.
>> Anonymous
If you spend weekends trying to destroy her, your chances of having a "normal" romantic relationship are going to be difficult, if not impossible, because people tend to protect that which they love. A master/slave sort of thing seems far more viable, which doesn't strike me as all that bad, and can be similar to a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship if you're both okay with it.

If she has a friend interested, where's the harm? You don't show up to play a game if you don't know the rules. If said two girls ruin their relationship as friends, it's because they both agreed to do something they both weren't ready to do. It's not your fault, you simply enabled them to do something they should have known better than to try.

Also, pics or it didn't happen.
>> Anonymous
>>280885
do we at least get a name?
>> Anonymous
ok, even though most of you pple think op is just trolling, i believe it. its just one of those things that really out there, and probably not faked.

anyway, i say ask her friend to make sure that she is okay with it. she says yes, fuck the shit outta both of them.
>> Anonymous
>>280808
Let her invite her friend to watch, but not participate. If the friend is still on, go for it.

Also, seconding the thing about how you are in a plane with all the engines on fire.
>> Anonymous
Never had one, but got offered by a girl that is a friend, turned it down becasue I doubt friends with benefits works, how can you exorcise all the bullshit about relationships and stuff hypnotised intlo your head?

Just having fun and enjoying life feels illegal here. Or immoral. Something. I'm not getting any and wont be in the future so my advice is push it as far as possible. You are the guy. It is up to the girl to choose, you just offer her choices, that's what she probably wants as much as security, not feeling like a loser or ugly for not getting laid often.
>> Anonymous
troll

you've already gang banged her, but you're concerned about her bringing in her friend?

either troll, or you're a fag
>> Anonymous
>>281186
>>281181
This.

>>281120
Also This.
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Posting in a troll thread without actually being trolled. :)
>> Anonymous
I would say go for it, because they wouldn't OFFER if they weren't ready. They might agree to it by your suggestion if they weren't, but that isn't the case here.

Your courtesy and good will is noted, however/
>> Anonymous
>>280851
Minimize risk to friend. Tone the shit down (and for that matter, give her ass a chance to heal a little) and have a more regular sex session with the friend. No pissing till you know she's into it. Sides, if it goes well, you wanna save some stuff.