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Anonymous
anyone gots moar?
>> Anonymous
i wish
>> Anonymous
Question 1: Is that a woman on the bottom?

Question 2: If the answer to Question 1 is 'no', then would it gay of me to fap to this?
>> Anonymous
wait. I am the confused.
>> Bluesummers !!2AjONwYanEW
It is not a trap, it is from a "wedding" gay porn video. it wa son rapid a month or so ago.
>> Anonymous
>>1208743
both guys i believe though the top has the tummy of a chick
>> Anonymous
can we get a link to dl this
>> Anonymous
yes, a link.
>> Anonymous
hot
>> Anonymous
come on gimme some sauce
>> Anonymous
http://www.redtube.com/1877
Here ya go!
>> Anonymous
>>1208809
OP here fucking thank you!
>> Anonymous
>>1208743
I wish I could find a trannie video like this, I'm sick of seeing them moaning like crazy when their dick isn't even erect
>> Anonymous
That music made me lol
>> Anonymous
Is it gay or a trap?
>> Anonymous
Both
>> Anonymous
I kinda got a boner off this, but I'm not ready to fap to this yet.
>> Anonymous
I'm so confused. I'm not sure what to do about this gif
>> Anonymous
>>1208943
That's because they are taking female hormones or whatever, the dick can't get hard...but they still have feeling in their ass and can still sometimes cum even when soft.
>> Anonymous
>>1209055

Fuckin' lol'd so hard.
>> Anonymous
Female hormones? That's from massaging the prostate ... it feels amazing and if done right you can blow a load without touching yerself
>> Anonymous
fap fap fap fap
>> Anonymous
i get a boner but i'm not gay =[
>> Anonymous
this is a trap.
>> Anonymous
He's got a nice cock.
>> Anonymous
>>1208756
Balls aren't touching.
Perfectly straight.
>> Anonymous
I know this is just gay, but trannies fucking piss me off... I hate how the real psychos who are actually trying to "become" or "be" a girl. There's a certain point where you have to realize you're either mentally disturbed or a pervert, not an actual girl.
>> Anonymous
This makes me reconsider my sexuality
>> Anonymous
>>1209468
Don't take that away from them. They try their best to match the outside to their inside.
>> Anonymous
>>1209480
But they're doing it in the wrong direction. Let's pretend this isn't 4chan for a second. You don't tell a depressed person they should kill themselves so they're outside matches their inside, everyone thinks they should have their head fixed, it's the only place they have a problem.

People with gender dysphoria are the same. Their bodies are fine and healthy, they have a mental disorder and sterilizing themselves with hormones and surgery to try and "match it up" is a form of self mutilation. These people clearly need to be counseled, or just admit they have a sexual fetish.
>> Anonymous
I have an idea. Let's attack things we don't understand.


I'll start with niggers.
>> Anonymous
Let's start with niggers.
>> Anonymous
>>1209489
How is my argument wrong? You said they try to match the outside with the inside. I agree, that's the best course of action. But one path leads to a lack of utility, namely sterility along with a lot of social alienation. It does not seem like a good path.

The other way of matching the inside with the outside is to acknowledge the truth of your gender and accept yourself for what you are. There's nothing wrong with your body.

To take it further, I also don't like how TG people are lumped together with Gays, lesbians, and bi's... there's hardly any correlation at all. There are two kinds of homosexuality, the fetish and the kind you're born with. The kind you're born with is the one that require social acceptance and understanding, but there are a lot of "straight" people with a gay fetish and that's all it is, a sexual deviance. There isn't the same kind of research and evidence for TG people that you're born that way.
>> Anonymous
>>1209489
Are you claiming to understand what other people are attacking? Personally, I say let people do whatever they want with their own bodies, but that doesn't make it healthy. A boy sees an amputee at four years of age. By the time he is seven, he is obsessed with becoming like that man. In time, he irreversibly damages his own leg and has it amputated. Years of stress gone, now that he has finally gotten what he's always wanted. Is this healthy? Is it appropriate that people simply allowed this man to harm his own body, grossly impairing his mobility for the rest of his life?
There is no such thing as a sex change. It's wide-scale mutilation. If I take a razor blade to my body in the hopes of looking like Meatwad from Aqua Teen Hunger Force, however similar the end result, I am still not a sentient lump of ground beef.
Gender dysphoria has more positive treatments, where people may go on to lead healthy lives. The problem? These treatments force people to confront conflicting feelings in themselves. That's unpleasant. Far better to lop off your balls.
>> Anonymous
>>1209508
God thank you... ever since I had an experience with a friend coming out as thinking he was TG, I've searched and searched for the answer as to what is "right"... I got to the point where I thought I was crazy because everyone seemed to think that it's "fine".

But I think just calling it "fine" is a the same as saying you don't care for that person's well being and you'd let them do whatever they wanted to themselves (e.g. cutting, drug overdoses, drinking binges) just because they "want" to. I think if you actually care about the people who want to do this to themselves, you should really try to talk them out of it.
>> Anonymous
>>1209514
where were you going to try and find the answers? if you got caught up in their community, they're all going to be on each other's side and are already going to be dismissing reason. the reason they become socially outcast is because there is a general understanding that transition surgery is either part of a fetish or the act of a disturbed individual.
>> Anonymous
lol, 4chan philosophers. Can we get back on topic?
>> Anonymous
wgaswgaf
>> Anonymous
>>1209530
DAD?!
>> Anonymous
>>1209468
you're a psychopath for giving a fucking shit. it's their problem, get the fuck over yourself. your whining begs the answer that no one should actually care if they fap to a trap.
>> Anonymous
>>1209483
No, mental gender confusion is not always the case. There is a point where biological malfunctions cause the body to be overly saturated with estrogen, making someone a girl mentally but with boy parts. IE, really girly boys who like other boys.
>> Anonymous
you mean brain sex. the brain has it's own sex - there are female brains and male brains and brain sex is decided, in the womb, before body sex. so it can get flipped around and the brain be female but the body male or vise versa.
and no one chooses what they are attracted to. i didn't wake up, one day, and decide that i wanted to fap to insanely large breasts, for example. so just let ppl like what they like. if they're not hurting anyone, what's it your business? just let ppl be what feels right.
the concept of gender dysphoria is outdated and archaic, along with early conceptions of scizophrenia.
there's less study into transgender issues because there is less interest. there's still a big western taboo that there have to be black and white concepts of gender and sexuality. but if you look, there are degrees of what we would consider male and female behavior. tom boy, for example - someone who is perfectly happy being a girl, but is not a "girlie" girl.
>> Anonymous
Wow, I wasn't expecting this from /gif/. really eye opening.
>> Anonymous
I wish I could come like this. I have been trying and trying to stick my finger up my ass and .... :(


does anyone have some good tips because I am not gay or anything- but I think it would be fun to experiment :D

also- I'm 22.... :/
>> Anonymous
>>1209669

Not true. Some people's brains aren't sure of their gender until puberty.

Hell, 1 out of 2000 people are born without clear cut genitals, and their genitals don't even manifest as a penis or vagina until puberty (though most aren't given the chance, because doctors decide to mutilate them at birth and force them into having a vagina or penis that never works correctly and doesn't have much feeling).
>> Wooldoor Sockbat
     File :-(, x)
>> Anonymous
>>1209489
>>1209494
niggermind
>> Anonymous
Some suggest that the brain having a different "sex" is due to past life experiance. The "soul"of a very attractive and amoris woman becoming a flertatious gay man, or a starving abused child could be a very depresed over weight person.
>> Anonymous
>>1209780
lol wut
>> Anonymous
moar gay sex + ejaculation pls
>> Anonymous
sauce is Stoya
>> anon
I'm quite surprised... because this is quite the ... inteligent talk comming out of a /gif/ 4chan debate...

My views are simple, It's kinda intresting....
>> Anonymous
>>1209798
Reasonable replies indicate a troll. Run.
>> Anonymous
super hot
>> Dennis Jensen
>>1208743
I am weirdly aroused by this.

I request much sauce plx. and also hope that person underneath is a girl.
>> Anonymous
it' s a tranny getting fucked in the butt dude lol
>> Dennis Jensen
>>1208809
HOLY FUCK, SHIT. AH.

That's disgusting. SHIT. My dick