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Please post more evidence of Naruto's lazy uncreative animation... at least that one from Cowboy Bebop the movie.
>> Anonymous
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>> Sigma_100
Look. First of all, I'm not a fan of Naruto, I think it's pretty lame.
But are you seriously telling me that you blame the animators/designers etc for copying a viable martial arts style, instead of coming up with, and animating, an entirely new style?

Second of all, all the shit Naruto stole from Cowboy Beebop, Cowboy Beebop got straight from Bruce Lee anyways.
In Beebop's defense, however, the creators actually said they copied Bruce Lee, as an homage of sorts. I'm not sure if Naruto had done the same thing, but it's doubtful.

So until you can come up with a whole fucking new martial arts form, and then animate it, you shut your damn mouth.
>> Anonymous
You cant steal martial arts styles. only way you can is if you claim it as your own. and no where in the manga or the anime did i see naruto claim that bruce lee's style is there.
>> Anonymous
martial arts style excluded, naruto clearly ripped off cowbopbebop

the camera angles even chane at the same time in the fights fucking unoriginal bastards
>> Anonymous
Remember though kids, its not the original creator of the manga Naruto that has done that, he didnt even show that part of the fight in the manga, its the animators who do it - who Kishimoto (author) actually have said that he has no influence over.

Naruto anime sucks ass. In the manga though... Asuma just died.
>> Anonymous
both animators wanted to put in a trivute to bruce lee, they both chose possibly the best sequence and animated it...

neither anime stole from the other dumbasses
>> Anonymous
Now...see..Avatar:Last Airbender just made up their OWN FIGHT SCENES

you tell me which is the more original show? The one that almost rotorscoped fight scenes frame by frame from an original martial arts film, or one that made up completely new fight scenes using influenced of various martial arts styles?
>> Anonymous
>>336213

you enjoy Avatar: The Last Airbender

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>> Anonymous
>>336269

weeaboo faggot thinks nothing good can come out of america

you enjoy aids: you elitist faggot

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>> taye diggs
look:

1) The jackie chan thing is clearly a hommage. The animators are paying respects to martial arts, and one of the greatest martial artists of all time, jackie chan. to cite that as "copying" is retarded. it is a hommage.

2) the cowboy bebop thing is funny. it must be some kind of agreement / conflict / competition between the animators of bebop and naruto. it's obviously similar, must be another hommage. i'm sure the naruto creators knew that fanboyz would recognize the rip. they must have had their reasons for doing it. we will never understand unless we are or KNOW one of the animators involved.

the FUNNY part of the bebop thing is the bebop clip is from the MOVIE, whereas the Naruto clip is 1 second from 1 random episode of the TV series.

if this debate proves anything, it's only that Naruto has the best fight scenes in any regular animated TV show. it's martial arts movie hommages only solidify that, and it's "copying" of bebop is simply more of a diss toward bebop (which i believe is overrated, anyway).
>> Anonymous
>>336288

So Naruto is also paying respect to all anime in the world for simply copying every possible thing from every series?
So far the best 'revenge' type character with special color changing eyes who gets almost completely taken over by a curse he accepted himself and takes up more then 50% of the story instead of the main character is Kurapika from Hunter X Hunter, not Sasuke. :P
>> Anonymous
You cant rip off yourself. Quit reposting, trolls.
>> Anonymous
>>336288
1. mabey your right

2. thats a dumb idea. bebop has been around for a long time, why world it be a conflict.

3. the creators of bebop model spike directly after bruce lee and they pay omage to him in many small ways that his real fans will notice. they took that scene as a definate homage. plus that scene isnt from a random episode ots from the bebop movie.

4. how could possibly diss bebop in the first place? naruto is a very gay repetitive anime with a simple plot. bebop has way better fight scenes, animation, story line, character development, better and more diverse characters overall, and space ships.
>> Anonymous
narudol suks anyways
>> alice
>>336213
The producers of Avatar clearly stated that the styles were taken from varies styles from China.
>>336288
Chen Long went to opera school, he was not trained as a martial artist.
>> Anonymous
>>336285

decent and interesting plot lines don't come from america.

faggot.
>> Anonymous
>>336337
Any usage of the word 'faggot' or 'gay' in a discussion that isnt about homosexuals makes you wrong. Always. The reason is because nobody takes adolescents seriously.
>> Bored Guy
you're an idiot if you think it's a "ripoff" this isn't uncommon, use that squishy thing in your head and do a little research.
>> Anonymous
>>336337

have you seen some of the dribble that comes out of japan....
morons like you have eaten up far worse...
the only reason anyone on here is really defending the show is because some people bash it for no real reason (see elitist weeaboo comment by anonymous^)
ive only seen like 2 eps but its far superior to a lot of the crap that gets reposted on 4chan all the time
>> Anonymous
There's a clear line between paying homage and ripping off a whole minute of choreography that other people came up with.
>> Anonymous
Japan shit is, like, deep because everyone dies. And they don't even NEED to kill everyone to make you take the story seriously. Just look at legendary stories like Love Hina or Eiken. Did anyone die in Eiken? Nope! They can totally make stories deep without tragedy-whoring
>> /r/ edited version Anonymous
>>336390

wow, nice spew of bullshit there you fucking weeaboo. LOL@Love Hina especially. you actually think that's deep? tell me you're fucking joking.
>> Anonymous
They only copied a few stuff here and there. The rest of the animation in that Sasuke vs Naruto fight had a lot of unique animation sequences.
>> Anonymous
>>336285
>>336269

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>> Anonymous
Samurai Jack pwnz all and its american. Done!
>> heh Narutard !Mjk4PcAe16
Quite obvious is the fact that the creator, Kishimoto, is a huge fan of Bruce Lee and the such, thus why he used a lot of movements from him. Hell, look at the new Naruto opening, Kishimoto is a huge martial arts fan, so it's more paying homage, not ripping off and being lazy.
>> Anonymous
>>336406

you fucking win!
>> Anonymous
>>336401
go enjoy a bottle of pinesol you dirty nigger
>> Anonymous
>>336395
you better take that back you dirty chink. the love hina manga was extremely excellent.
>> Anonymous
The animator that worked on the Bebop movie works on, or worked on, the Naruto anime! All the bullshit about ripping each other off is now null and void. It was the same fucking animator. He stole his own work! OHMAHGAWWD!!!!!!
>> Anonymous
WATEVA INTERNET ARGUEMENT

ASUMA DIED, I DON'T CARE ANYMORE.
>> Anonymous
>>336318
I didn't say they didn't

But the fight scenes are just rotorschoped from chinese martial arts films. They actually ANIMATED THEM
>> taye diggs
i was not trained as a fuck-your-girlfriender, but i will certainly fuck your girlfriend.
>> Anonymous
Quick throw on an Orange Jumpsuit that'll make for the best ninja attire...FUcking Cartoon NEtwork Narutards...Watch real anime!
>> Onanymous
Naruto is Narutarded.

And let's not forget Dragonball when speaking of the anime Naruto rips off.

Lead character in bright orange. Rival in blue and white, who is one of the last survivors of his race. Bullshit 'chakra' replacing Ki.

I'm on to you, Kishimoto.
>> Onanymous
Almost forgot the sealed demon's chakra replacing power up techniques like Super Saiyan.

BTW, Avatar owns. And Samurai Jack owns all.
>> Anonymous
>>336497
word
>> Anonymous
>>336188
Exactly, considering the character of the show, Spike, is known for looking up to and being influenced by Bruce Lee in both his fighting and philosophy. In which case, Cowboy Bebop is fine by using Bruce Lee's trademarks seeing as how they actually provide a just reason for doing so rather than just copying and shoving it in trying to mask it as "original content".

Naruto, however, is just one massive carbon copy of whatever is "trendy". Nothing original, nothing amazing...hell, the only reason its so big is because 11 year old weeaboo faggots don't know any better.
>> special olympics Anonymous
Arguing on the internet is like participating on the special olympics, even if you win you are still retarded.
>> Anonymous
I like Naruto because it's mindless fluff, like DBZ when I was younger. It's not actually good. I think the animators are lazy as fuck for copying fight scenes. It's no homage, it's just skimping out on hiring someone to write some original choreography.

Comparing it to Cowboy Bebop is retarded. And Avatar > Most anime I've seen.
>> Anonymous
Alright, if the Naruto animators are such lazy bastards who copy all thier stuff from other animes and movies and martial artists... then why arent there a couple DOZEN more of these comparison gifs?

Seriously, what does it matter anyways? Some people (myself included) like Naruto. Some people dont. Lets just agree to disagree and let it the fu*k go.
>> Bored Guy
>>336369

if you think 5 seconds is a minute, you have some issues
>> Bored Guy
if Samurai Jack pwn'd so much..why'd it only last like...two seasons? =\
>> Anonymous
Ahem, how does the story correlate with animation? Were discussing the animation not the story here. I think were going off-topic here and a bit bias I may add.

Anyways, we've had discussion several times here and /a/ too. The result of both discussion, who gives a fuck? So the animators took a scene from an old Kung Fu flick. Big deal people! Animation isn't easy and sometimes they have to rely on real material to draw these scenes. OP, if you want an answer it's that as simple as that.
>> Anonymous
>>336424

excellent? that's just opinion. hardly is it deep though.

as for the "11 year old weeaboo" comment on Naruto, it does speak truth. Naruto is actually a show that's geared toward that age group in Japan. don't believe me? go find a Japanese McDonalds commercial on Naruto or any other commercial for Naruto from Japan and see who's happily frolicking with their Naruto junk. yes, they're grade school CHILDREN.

>>336599
because samurai jack doesn't need to drag on with stupid bullshit episodes like naruto. when a series goes on for far too long (inuyasha, naruto) it turns to crap!
>> Anonymous
Boy, you guys sure are mature, judging people based on the tv shows that they watch.
>> Anonymous
>>336390

This was sarcasm.
>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
>>336708
This counts as an instant win in any anime flamewar.
>> Anonymous
Shut the fuck up.