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Anonymous
Imagine spending your days walking around and 1 out of 3 people you met was a fat sack of shit
>> Anonymous
missouri fits in there. we're a fat fucking state. It's disgusting.
>> Anonymous
the obesity crisis is a load of crap. By the standards of obesity, both Brad Pitt and George Clooney are obese. Yes, really.
>> Anonymous
>>444824
Hi Fatty
>> Anonymous
>>444824
Keep on telling yourself you're normal, fat bastard
>> Anonymous
its a good thing we have data from 1985, nothing like up to date information...
>> Lil Dreamer !3GqYIJ3Obs
>>444824
the standards of obesity have a lot to do with the ratio of lean body mass to body fat. i sincerely doubt either of he 2 gentlmen you mentioned have 25% or more bodyfat.
>> Anonymous
>>444824

qf FULL OF FUCKING SHIT YOU RETARD
>> Anonymous
And I sincerely doubt any of this matter. Wow, there's fat people. Who cares? Have you ever thought that maybe it's not -really- a health hazard to be "obese"? Bodyfat in itself isn't a health hazard, and you can otherwise be completely health with a good portion of bodyfat. The only thing that leads people to disbelieve this is that often obesity accompanies things like unhealthy cholesterol levels or other abnormalities, but just because you're fat doesn't mean you need to have any of these.

And before anyone even says it; no, I'm not a fat fuck. In fact I could be a bit underweight.
>> Anonymous
>>444845
SUUURE you're underweight

fat fatty fat fuckin fat jiggly giant ass fatso fatass
>> Anonymous
>>444850
No u. That's all you get from me, Troll Jr.
>> Anonymous
>>444853
ah, what do you want? it's late and i cant think of any clever insults
>> Lil Dreamer !3GqYIJ3Obs
>>444845
>you ever thought that maybe it's not -really- a health hazard to be "obese"?

show me a person with 25%+ bodyfat that's "healthy" and i'll show you a person in denial.
>> Lil Dreamer !3GqYIJ3Obs
>>444845
>you ever thought that maybe it's not -really- a health hazard to be "obese"?

show me a man with 25%+ bodyfat that's "healthy" and i'll show you a man in denial.

show me a woman that has 35%+ bodyfat that's healthy and i'll show you a woman who can't catch a successful husband.
>> Anonymous
>>444824
http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/

the bmi is actualy pretty acurate for most people. learn some basic anatomy and you'll know which muscles and bones should be showing through your skin and fat. sadly, most americans and europeans are overweight or obese. unless you do nothing but hang out on 4 chan all day, it's virtualy impossible to become overweight by eating the right kind of foods. most americans and euros, especially the poor, are eating massive amounts of refined sugars and bad fats because they can't afford real food...
>> Anonymous
Square state above New Mexico:Superior.
>> Anonymous
>>444862
Do you even know what healthy fat is? Fat is naturally stored sustenance, it's not inherently harmful unless you're severely overweight, and that's not 20% bodyfat. The hazard in obesity is that most are in fact suffering from high cholesterol and numerous other factors such as malnutrition that build up unhealthy bodyfat, as mentioned. But on the other side, the body type you develop is also encoded in your genes and how you accumulate bodyfat is partly hereditary. High cholesterol causes high blood pressure, fat in itself does not. You need not have both, and therefore, you need not be unhealthy to be fat.

You might not be "fit" as they say, you might not run marathons or have a high fitness lifestyle, but that's not what it is to be healthy, that's going beyond simply being healthy. Fat people -can- be healthy, if you refuse to consider the possibility then maybe you're the one in denial, and I shouldn't bother to show you anything.
>> Anonymous
Fat people scare me, I feel like they could snap at any time and... and... do something. Fat people have developed ways to punish others which wouldn't involve fast movement on their part. I know fat people are capable of this, they're just waiting. Waiting, and watching, and eating.
>> Anonymous
So there are fat people. Oh well, if they're weak, they'll do of some fat related fat-happenings. Unless fat people are "all up in your shit" stop whining. And for the record I am fat and hope to die in some fat-related incident. Like choke on a donut or just go out the ol' se7en fashion, or have my heart give out when I'm trying to have sex with a hooker.

Yeah....that'd be awesome...
>> Anonymous
>>444882

Damn right. You better watch yourself you skinny bastard before one of us absorb you into our being.
>> Lil Dreamer !3GqYIJ3Obs
>>444880
where did i, or ANY studies say that 20% bodyfat was obese? fast fact: HUGE difference between 20%-25% body fat. if a man has 25%+ bodyfat, guess what? he IS obese and no, he's NOT healthy. we're not talking about people who are "slightly" overweight here. we're talking OBESE motherfuckers with more than 1/4 of their bodyweight as fat for men and more than 1/3 for women.

face it; most, if probably ALL obese people have health problems. obesity may not be the main contributor to them, but it sure as hell is not helping. but obesity sure as hell is one main contribuiting factor when it come to diabetes; one of the main concerns for them fatty fat fucks.
>> Anonymous
>>444886
YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED, RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.
>> Lil Dreamer !3GqYIJ3Obs
>>444883
sorry, but like smokers, fatty fat fucks help my medical insurance premium skyrocket. so yeah, they DO affect me.
>> Anonymous
>>444880
i think your point is valid, but going back to bmi, the average human shouldn't be in the obese range. it is much better to be fit and overweight than being normal or underweight and being sickly from starvation or drugs. i do sympathize for people who were obviously the offspring of obese parrents, but every "naturaly fat person i know either gets no exercise or over eats or both.
>> Anonymous
It's amazing how people hide behind health issues to justify their vanity. Now there may be a few who actually stay fit for health reasons, but the majority just use health as an excuse.

Look back 60 to 70 years (can't remember specifics) when being obese was considered attractive even if there were health issues.

Fat people are fat because often they enjoy what they eat. Now if you can say that you have absolutely no vice whatsoever that's detrimental to your health or your way of thinking, than feel free to be as elitist as you wish, otherwise stop whining.

It's the person's problem an no one elses. And if they feel the need to blame others for their problems they need to be taken out to the fat farms and shot to death.
>> Anonymous
>>444896

That's not fat, that's whalish, and they deserve to die on the street for being that goddamned fat and making it other peoples problems
>> Anonymous
>>444888
As I understand it, the main contributor to cases of diabetes is too much sugar or cholesterol intake; and like I said, that's not synonymous with obesity. Fat doesn't create huge health hazards, huge health hazards create fat; but really only 50% of the time. The fact of the matter is, as long as your body fat isn't putting undue stress on your joints and back, and your heart is healthy enough to motivate your fat self, it does -not- make you unhealthy if your cholesterol and nutrition diets are normal; people with family history of obesity become fat easily without eating fatty foods. It's just how their body processes intake.

If you have a man who is at 25% bodyfat with high cholesterol and bad eating habits, which in turn causes him a lot of high blood pressure and heart problems, as well as his diet denying him proper nutrition to keep his joints and bones healthy, then yes, he isn't very healthy and is suffering a substantial health hazard. And yes, this would be a good number of Americans.

If you have a man with normal eating habits, but due to heridotery fatty genes is at 25% bodyfat, with low cholesterol (yes, it's completely possible) and in turn a normal and healthy heart, joints, and bones; then in a medical standpoint, he is indeed healthy. The only thing large amounts of fat present is more work for the body to support it and move it. In itself, this isn't a hazard unless some other health hazard (which is sometimes linked to -how- they became obese, not simply -by- being obese) presents a challenge to one of the aforementioned things (heart, joints, bones, etc).
>> Lil Dreamer !3GqYIJ3Obs
>>444907
the latter part of your post talks about an individual that is the exception and not the rule.

i mean, just because 1 person who jumps off a 10-story building survives doesn't mean everyone should jump off a 10-story building does it?

fact is that most obese americans fall under your 2nd paragraph more so than your 3rd. that still doesn't mean it's "ok" for most people to be obese just because there is an exception to the rule.
>> Anonymous
>>444808
fails for made up facts and false sources.

serious, alaska?
>> Anonymous
>>444915
Of course, I was never trying to prove that it's ok to be -unhealthily- fat. But there's absolutely no reason to demonize fat people for being fat, it's indiscriminate and without just cause. Like being genocidal against bacteria; yes, there's plenty of harmful bacteria out there, really nasty stuff. But there's bacteria out there that is are exceptions to these "rules" and are most beneficial to human survival and immunization.

50% of how you cultivate and amass bodyfat is determined by hereditary genes that in themselves do not cause an initial health hazard, so my point is, so to say everyone who is fat is unhealthy would be largely mistaken, as 50% of it is already determined at birth, and becomes a natural and more or less healthy part of their growth. Would you tell those obese Americans that it's not "ok" to pull from their parent's gene pool? They don't have a choice.

If it's an exception, then so what? It's still part of the "ruling". You can be obese and be healthy, the rest you just have to leave to common sense to maintain an good eating diet just like everyone else who isn't obese. I can point out plenty of people of standard bodyweight who are well less under many fat people I know when concerning health problems, including myself. I eat horribly, but due to my genes I process well and fat barely sticks to me, but I'm sure my blood pressure is getting up there, and I get winded often because I don't often exercise. But fat? Nope, nowhere to be seen; while on the other hand, I know fat people with good cholesterol, who eat well and do exercise. Still fat, but overall healthier, even if obese. "Exception" or not, it's just how it is, so people can shove those "lol, fatass unhealthy American" arguments.
>> Anonymous
>>444916
I don't know, I could believe it, on a freak stretch. You know....it's like....cold up there.

Fuck, I don't know. I don't know any Alaskans. I'd like to see one of these charts of Italy though, or Greece; I'm sure they've got plenty of fatties there. But their cholesterol might be better....
>> Anonymous
Also...why is there no data for Hawaii for 2004? That's inconsistent and unlikely (as well as missing data from other states, seemingly spontaneously)
>> Anonymous
so, from genes alone, regardless of the diet or amount of exercise any person can develop a 25% body fat ratio?
>> Anonymous
>>444986
It might not be very likely, but maybe. The point is that fat and the abundance of it is generally regarded as a "health hazard", which is wrong; the non-hereditary causes that may make someone gain lots of bodyfat are the health hazard. But then again some also still do inherit bad cholesterol too, and not just the genes that make bodyfat quick to gain. Fat alone is just more weight. If you wore a suit that had a few extra pounds added to it and walked around on a daily basis wearing it, would you be "unhealthy"? No; your body might have to exert more energy to manipulate and regulate your body due to the extra weight, but if you're healthy already, it's not a hazard to your health to carry a bit more weight.

Yes, many Americans still do carry a lot of this weight and still don't do much to maintain their health, and I see what the tripfag is saying, but being fat in itself isn't "Bad" as most people think.
>> Anonymous
>>444989
Finally someone that doesn't simply believe the hype.

It's laughable that some skinny people don't think they need to exercise and eat right to be healthy.
>> Anonymous
>>445054
II just try to spread possibility. Because if I can plant the inspiration of that, it ultimately is worth far more than actually teaching you something, because it will urge you to learn new things and challenge what is established, like everyone should. Otherwise we'd all still think the world is flat.
>> Anonymous
I'd say that in my everyday life as a university student that the "25% obese" statistic in my state is an exaggeration. More like 7-10%.
>> Lil Dreamer !3GqYIJ3Obs
>>445059
the problem with the possibility you're preaching is that it's been used as an excuse by the lazy and obese for ages.
>> Anonymous
>>444845

Enjoy your heart disease and diabeetus.
>> Anonymous
EUROPE IS NOW GETTING ON THE FAT TRAIN
>> Anonymous
in b4 colorado kicks fatass
>> Anonymous
haha, oregonians
>> Anonymous
OHSHIT

COINCIDES WITH THE RISE OF VIDJA GAMES AND THE INTERTOOBS
>> Anonymous
>>444808
I have three roomates, one of them is heavy duty dude, so when i walk around 1/3 of the people i meet in my own home really are fat.
>> Anonymous
woho! 30 percent of all americans are to retarded to not eat as pigs.
>> Anonymous
Red states lose!
>> Anonymous
>>445156
fuck you dude, fuck you
>> Anonymous
ITT fat people
>> Anonymous
>>445162
JACK THOMPSON ALERT
>> Anonymous
eredar?
>> Anonymous
AMERIKKKA IS OBESE AHHHAHA ENJOY UR HEART DISEASE
>> Anonymous
DAMN YOU, STATE OF OHIO, DAMN YOU
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>>444808
you know what i find amusing? that given alaska's population ... three people get diagnosed as obese and the entire state is fucked amirite?
>> Anonymous
Being "obese" has never been healthy.

And it's not just in the genes, it's a a matter of behavior.
Fat people do exercise? they avoid fast food? no.
Now since the era of the internets, people spend even more time being sedentary. not moving.
If their genes said "hey you're gonna be fat lol", but their behavior was different, it wouldn't be like that. it's proven.

the US is fat cause US doesn't wanna be skinny, that's all.

now gimme some giga harpoons. desu
>> Anonymous
>>445083
No, not really. All they'd have to do is get a checkup and they'd see that they're nowhere close to this possibility if they haven't been eating right or trying to maintain good cholesterol. Of course there's ignorant people out there, but there's no sense in ruining the possibility for everyone else due to those people. None at all.

>>445327
Uh....yeah. It's not "proven", there are fat people who get fat naturally, even with a good diet and exercise. They might not hit the 25% mark, but they're still damned fat. Talk to more fatties.
>> Anonymous
lulz, fat people make me laugh.
>> Anonymous
I don't live in the US and I'm skinny 8D so I don't care.

enjoy your fapping alone for a long time
>> Anonymous
>>445317
I think you're thinking Wyoming. Wyoming has the lowest population out of all states.
>> Anonymous
>>444808

already happening
>> Anonymous
Obesity does not equal Fat Piece of shit. If you're even 1g overweight, you're considered obese , dumbass.
>> Anonymous
>>445437

Actually no.

weight(kg)/height^2(cm) equals body mass.

underweight is below 20
normal 20-25
overweight 25-30
obese 30+

and YES obese people are fat fucks.
and sometimes fat fucks are not actually obese.
>> Anonymous
lol man the fatties are FURIOUS in this thread

throwin their mcdonalds around in rage

NO SYMPATHY FOR YOU GREASY LARDBALLS, WASTE OF MY FUCKING AIR.

EAT LESS AND MOVE MORE YOU RETARDS
>> Anonymous
I like living in a country where even the poor people are fat.

We've wiped out starvation, and the socialists are now bitching that there aren't enough starving people.
>> Anonymous
>>445472

FUKKEN AGREEED
>> Anonymous
>>445478
>>We've wiped out starvation

YEAH IM SO GLAD NO ONE IN AMERICA OR ON EARTH IS HUNGRY. if you actually think, "we've wiped out starvation," you need to drop dead.
>> Anonymous
>>445472
Oh, it's Jr. Troll again.

Well if you read any of the thread, you'd see it's the skinny people who are raging, like always; there's only like..two posts expressing "anger". Just assuming they're fat makes you a retard.
>> Anonymous
The only people in the world who are starving are people who want to starve, or who would rather starve than eat American food.
>> Anonymous
>>445472
>>445484
>>445486
Also, all the same person.
>> Anonymous
Kate Moss is starving. Sucks to be her.
Osama bin Laden is starving. Sucks to be him.
Millions of America-hating Africans are starving, when they're not hacking each other to death with machetes for not hating America enough. Sucks to be them.
When they get tired of starving to death, they can STFU and eat some of the billions of tons of food we ship every year, instead of throwing it away so they aren't tempted by it.
Until then, there ain't a violin in the world tiny enough to play for them.
>> Anonymous
right, starving people choose to starve. fuck basic instincts. fuck logic.

damn, anonymous, you are so wise.
>> Anonymous
FAT PEOPLE SMELL BAD AND MAKE UGLY NOISES
>> Anonymous
>>445526
And who says Osama is starving? Just because he's hiding out in the middle east?
>> Anonymous
We fucking put gold in our food.
>> Anonymous
SAVE THE WORLD EAT A FATTIE
>> Anonymous
>>445545
No, actually it's just that you're so retarded that a pothead like me looks like Albert Einstein to you.
>> Anonymous
>>445636
If you didn't notice, allow me to point it out. He was using sarcasm.
>> Anonymous
>>445642
Maybe he thouht he was. Broken clock, twice a day, etc.
>> Anonymous
>>445645
Right.

No.