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>> Anonymous
Wrong bitch, they only go to heaven if they've been baptised, i.e. AFTER THEY'RE BORN.

OP FAILS. Thread over.
>> Anonymous
Heaven is fake, so commentator FAILS.
>> Anonymous
isnt god supposed to be like... caring and shit? so there must be like a jillion stillborn babies in hell huh?
>> Anonymous
Fetus and unbaptized babies go to limbo, dumbasses
>> Anonymous
>>795703

yes. because our chance at eternal life is determined if you get dipped in water. if a fetus really does have a 'soul' or is 'alive' they will go to heaven. why? they are not mentally compitent to choose whether they believe in god or not. all children will go to heaven save the ones that can litterally understand in their heart whether they believe in christ or not.
>> Anonymous
There's millions every time a guy faps.
>> Anonymous
well heres a big dent in their theory: dinosaurs. how the fuck does god explain dinosaurs? Why does the bible not mention these fucking huge lizards? surely it would have come up. Also: every animal on earth walked to noahs ark? ok then.
>> Anonymous
>>795744
[bill hicks]
I have wiped entire civilizations off of my chest with a grey gym sock
[/bill hicks]
>> Anonymous
>>795730
Well they are in the first circle of hell.

>>The Limbo of Infants refers to a hypothetical permanent status of the unbaptized who die in infancy, too young to have committed personal sins, but not having been freed from original sin. Since baptism is understood to be necessary for the salvation of those to whom it can be administered, the fate of unbaptized innocents has been debated, since the time of Augustine at least, by theologians, and the theory of the Limbo of Infants is one of the hypotheses that have been formulated as a proposed solution. Some who hold this theory regard the Limbo of Infants as a state of maximum natural happiness, others as one of "mildest punishment" consisting at least of privation of the beatific vision and of any hope of obtaining it. This theory, in any of its forms, has never been dogmatically defined by the Church, but it is permissible to hold it. Recent Catholic theological speculation tends to stress the hope that these infants may attain heaven instead of the supposed state of Limbo; however, the directly opposed theological opinion also exists, namely that there is no afterlife state intermediate between salvation and damnation, and that all the unbaptized are damned.
>> Anonymous
God does not exist, evolution is a proven fact.
>> Anonymous
>>795747
not every animal, two of every animal. but even so, that's a lot of animals.
>> Anonymous
>>795955
QFT
>> Anonymous
>>795747

the word dinosaur did not exist in biblical days. Job 40 makes reference to a great animal(s) called Behemoth. Job 41 refers to the Leviathan. the original hebrew word used is tannin, which was used to describe land or sea animals of great size - whales, serpents, and "dragons".

Nehemiah, Psalms, Malachi and Jeremiah all mention "dragons", apparently of varying sizes.
however the word tannin was not used for these animals, indicating they were a different animal than the Leviathan.
>> Anonymous
What's taking Jesus so long?
>> Anonymous
Anyone? Where's Jesus? What's taking him?
>> Anonymous
>>795955

You should double-check your facts. Evolution has been proven false. The masses are simply too ignorant or stupid to realize it.
>> Anonymous
I wonder if, before widespread availability of a home net connection, idiots would engage in pointless theological arguments at the magazine rack in the local porn shop?
>> Anonymous
Your God sends helpless babies into what any living person would consider a hell. Enjoy your retarded religion.
>> Anonymous
>>796050

lawl!
>> Anonymous
>>796041
HAHAHA! Did you ,mister tell you that, you uneducated shit?
>> Anonymous
I have an engineering degreee and have studied a great deal of science. It is obvious to anyone who is willing to look at the edvidence with an open mind that evolution is wishful thinking by mindless sheep who are unwilling to accept that the universe was created.

Enjoy your ignorant oblivion.
>> Anonymous
>>795744
A fetus is created when a sperm gets inside the female's egg. Sperm is living, but in the same way that bacteria is living. So no one gives a shit about wasted sperm, except religionfags. gb2/middleschool/
>> Anonymous
The lady that was going to have the next Jesus had an abortion instead. Immaculate conception is just no fun these days.
>> Anonymous
>>796079
Ummmm... you're a fucking idiot. There's an abundance of evidence that supports evolutions, from bacteria to fossil records, from logic to pure observance of the natural world. But I guess you know more than 99% of biologists. Enjoy your fantasy land, blindman.
>> Anonymous
>>796092

You seem to be enjoying yours.

Once again, look at the research with an open mind. Biologists are discovering the truth in droves. Don't blind yourself with your ignorance. Seek truth instead.
>> Anonymous
>>796092

Isn't it fun to see that you aren't the only person with a point of view?
>> Anonymous
>>796099
I guess dinosaurs and chiwawas coexisted in the wild. And AIDS has been around for thousands of years.
>> Anonymous
>>796102

Isn't it fun to play D&D and call it religion? Nice unbiased screen name by the way, enjoy your gay porn subscriptions.
miraclematter89@aol.com
>> lol Anonymous
I like how calling someone a "fucking idiot" is supposed to suddenly and inarguably prove that you are right.
>> Anonymous
if u dont believe in evolution your dum

/thread
>> Anonymous
Here's the deal: Having opinions is fine. Having opinions that have been proven false makes you a fucking idiot.
>> Anonymous
ITT Athiest fags Baww
>> Anonymous
^^^
loves cock
>> Anonymous
>>796134

Great rebuttle
>> Anonymous
>>795747
>>795955
>>796041
>>796079
>>796092
>>796099

ITT people who think that "God" and "Science" are mutually exclusive.
>> Anonymous
>>796132
ITT Religionfags are blinded by faith and viewed as morons by the normal people, as usual.
BAWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!
>> Anonymous
"i dont agree with your opinions and thats whycome they are proven false and whycome my opinion is no longer theory" lol
>> Anonymous
>>796140
>>796140

What defines normal people? Define it go on do it,

Because it surely isnt anyone on this site including myself
>> Anonymous
>>796079
You apparently havn't studied evolution very much then. Regardless of wether something designed the universe or that the process is either random or pre-determined, that evolution itself is a process is absolutely certain.

Evolution happens. It exists. Plants and animals change over generations to deal with new circumstances and slowly alter significantly from what they were before. That's all it is. It's a process, and it happens all around us all the time. the way rats and mice grow immune over generations to the poisons we use. The way viruses and bacteria change, new strands emerge at a constant rate. All the breeds of dogs we have these days are the result of selective breeding for specific traits over hundreds of years ang generations. That's what evolution is. That part of it isn't a theory at all, it's as concrete a part of the world as antyhing else.

To make a blanket statment that evolution doesn't exist is like trying to arge water doesn't exist, or that things don't grow. It's riddiculous.

What's baffling is how people think that somehow has something to do with the existence or non-existance of some devine entity that may or may not have designed the universe we see around us.
>> Anonymous
There's more evidence for evolution then there is for Pluto's existence. This is the dumbest thread I've seen in my life.
>> Anonymous
>>796145

And yet rats remain rats and dogs remain dogs. Your blind ignorance reveals itself once again.
>> Anonymous
JESUS CHRIST KEEP THIS IN /x/
>> Anonymous
>>796145

its because they need something to hold on or otherwise they become the quaking, disturbed, insecure mess they pretend they aren't. the problem is the religionfag don't understand the more esoteric teachings of the religions they pretend to follow. its better to go to church every sunday hear 'dear child be good' ad infinitum. if one were to understand the significance of the interconnections of the world around them, they'd realize there is no separation, no distinction between them and their 'creator'.
>> Anonymous
>>796159
samefag here, interconnections=evolution
>> Anonymous
>>796153
lol, if you're not a troll you've got to be one of the stupidest people alive. The point (I can't belive I actually have to point this out to you) is that rats and dogs are diffrent now than they have been in the past. It's not like there used to be wild packs of standard poodles and corgies running around. And rats havn't changed visibly all that much but their physiology is diffrent, and they are immune to things that used to kill them. lol, wow.
>> Anonymous
Im confident that all athiestfags on this site are people that had religous parents but basically just said eff this shit yo because they were rebellious teenagers and never grew out of it.

Why do I saw this? Because most athiests here dont even understand what the fuck they are even talking about
>> Anonymous
>>796179

Like I said: rats are still rats. Thanks for making my point for me.
>> Anonymous
>>796202
There's no fucking way you're not a troll.
>> Anonymous
>>796189
I dunno, man. Why DO you SAW this?
>> Anonymous
>>796202

And you're still a retard.
/thread
>> Anonymous
Atheist tards say, "I'm right because of X"

Religous tards say, "I'm right because of X"

I say, "You're all gay."
>> Anonymous
>>796189
Im confident that all religiousfags on this site are people that had religous parents and basically never got off mom's tit because they believe everything mom says and never grew out of it.

Why do I saw this? Because all theists in the world dont even understand what the fuck they are even talking about

SEE WHAT I DID?
>> Anonymous
>>796218
More like
Atheist tards say, "I'm right because of X with evidence and reasoning" Basically: how does teh world fit together.

Religous tards say, "I'm right because of the bible says is" Basically: How does the world fit together so the bible isn't wrong.
>> Anonymous
>>796208
I agree, it's gotta be a troll. I don't think anyone too thick to actually understand something so simple could even write, let alone opperate a computer.
>> Anonymous
what you did thar

i see it
>> Anonymous
More like, everyone is still gay.
>> Anonymous
>>796202
That was some fine trolling, man
You did good
>> Anonymous
>>796208
>>796243

Quite the contrary. I believe every word I have written. It's not my fault that the uniformed masses are too thick to see that darwinian evolution is a fallacy of epic proportions.

People believe in evolution because they were told to just as I once did. Fortunately, I opened my mind and examined all of the facts for myself without someone telling what to believe. It is now obvious that evolution is not only impossible; it's downright ludicrous.
>> Anonymous
>>796282
You make it sound so simple. Pray tell why what facts you have learned, and possibly the sources?
>> Anonymous
>>796202
You really don't even understand what evolution is do you?
>> Anonymous
>>796282
Either a troll or can't get his religion to work in the real world and needs a fantasy way out.
>> Anonymous
>>796282
and exactly how are you defining evolution?
>> Anonymous
>>796282
Okay... so you can see that living things all around you change over generations. Unless (to use my pervious examples) you belive that there used to be wild packs of standard poodles and corgies running around and that rats have always had exactly the same poison resitances.

So what I'm trying to explain to you is that that's all evolution is. Rats are still rats now, yes. And corgis are still dogs. But they're diffrent now, than they were a few hundred years ago. When these processes keep going for thousands and hundreds of thousands of years, they change significantly from what they once were. (as if the diffrence between a toy poodle and a coyote isn't enough for you)

Evolution isn't a magic poof where suddenly a cat sprouts wings. It's a slow tedious process of countless tiny changes building up slowly over time.

Some things are very well adapted for their environments and have little need to change (corocdiles). Some face new challenges (like rats to poison) and adapt bit by bit over time.

This has absolutely nothing to do with wether or not a creator may exist. But it has everything to do with looking at the world at face value and using logic to put two and two together.
>> Anonymous
http://make-you-rofl.blogspot.com/

I'm going to post this until everyone bookmarks it.
>> Anonymous
>>796305
/thread

Can't argue with truth without looking like an idiot.
>> Anonymous
>>796305
Same poster again. And how, you may ask do we know how these tiny changes build up over time? When for something like a rat to change significantly it would take thousands of years. We study animals with very short life and repoduction cycles like fruit flies and can study thousdans of generations, seeing them change over time to suit new environments.

It's really not that complicated or mystical.
>> Anonymous
>>796307
My God, the fail
>> Anonymous
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_as_a_theory_and_fact

Let's try a little education, shall we, ladies and gents?
>> Anonymous
Here's what I had close at hand. After a trip to the library I could list a lot more:

Denton, Michael. "Evolution: A Theory in Crisis." Bethesda, Md.: Adler & Adler, 1986

Hanegraaff, Hank. "The Face that Demonstrates the Farce fo Evolution." Nashville: Word, 1998.

Johnson, Phillip. "Darwin on Trial." Downers Grove, Ill.: Inervasity Press, second edition, 1993

Behe, Michael J. "Darwin's Black Box: The Biochemical Challenge to Evolution." New York: Touchstone, 1996

----. "Darwin's Breakdown: Irreducible Complexity and Design at the Foudation of Life." In "Signs of Intelligence," eds. William A. Dembski and James M. Kushner. Grand Rapids, Mich: Brazos, 2001

----. "Evidence for Design at the Foundation of Life" and "Answering Scientific Criticisms of Intelligent Design." In "Science and Evidence for Design in the Universe," eds. Michael J. Behe, William A. Dembski, and Stephen C. Meyer. San Francisco: Ignatius, 2000.
>> Anonymous
I've given you the proof you asked for. Now my challenge to you is to seek the truth with an open mind. You'll be amazed at what you can learn when your mind is open and your mouth is closed.
>> Anonymous
>>796321
Denton Michael - Senior Fellow of the Intelligent Design Movement, which is "... a neo-creationist religious campaign that calls for broad social, academic and political changes derived from the concept of "intelligent design...The movement arose out of the previous Christian fundamentalist and evangelistic creation science movement in the United States."

Nice start.

Hendrik "Hank" Hanegraaff - "...is an American author, radio talk-show host and advocate of evangelical Christianity."

Two for two there.

Phillip Johnson - Founder of the Intelligent Design Movement.

So, two out of three authors you've listed were a big part of an organization of crazy evangelical Christians. That's some fucking definitive proof there.

Here's a fun excerpt from the Intelligent Design Movement wiki -
"The overall goal of the intelligent design movement is to "overthrow materialism" and atheism. They believe that society has suffered "devastating cultural consequences" from adopting materialism and that science is the cause of this decay into materialism since science seeks only natural explanations. Science is therefore atheistic, they claim. They believe that the theory of evolution implies that humans have no spiritual nature, no moral purpose, and no intrinsic meaning. The movement's proponents seek to "defeat [the] materialist world view" represented by the theory of evolution in favor of "a science consonant with Christian and theistic convictions". [3]"

Let me highlight that last part:
>a science consonant with Christian and theistic convictions
In other words, let me warp logic to fit around the bible. Good going, faggot.
>> Anonymous
>>796327
You'll be amazed what you can find books on. Thy let anyone write those things, you know?
>> Anonymous
lol, you're getting trolled.

anon doesn't believe in god.
>> Anonymous
>>796327
My problem with that is that the authors of those books are EXTREMELY close-minded people.
"Science is therefore atheistic, they claim."
Blind generalization shit like that?. I'm not listening to those fools.
>> Anonymous
tldrlolfags
>> EPIC LULZ!!!!1!!!!!! Anonymous
WHY ARE YOU STILL ARGUING ABOUT THIS SHIT!?
Lol at the abortions and stfu.
>> Anonymous
>>796413
40 minutes late
>> Anonymous
ITT:

Trolls, lulz, abortion, fags, newfags, and THE TRUTH MOTHA FUCKA.
>> hmmmm Pok
okay, i'm going out on a limb here:

lets say god made the universe, or at least earth, or some other divine entity did it.

now, logically, and knowledgely, he would forsee how the world would change, and how we would all turn out, Amiright?

anyways, now, if he knew, that certain chemicals, and certain advances would be made, then he would obviously make changes go on for when that happened.

EX: rats are killed by poisons, god loves all living things, so he let's the rats be immune to said poisons, he might not even do it divinely, for humans would say "God, you changed them for the better, help us more" which wouldn't be gods intent, as he needs belief to exist, and if he proved himself by changing the rats instantly, he would, in fact, cease to exist, because by his own law, and the great mind of douglas addams, no one would have faith in believing he exists, cause they would know. (I'm not saying this jokingly either, douglas addams was very logical.)
>> Pok
so instead, he would let the rats develope the immunity.

and for those who believe in the bibal, the bibal stories were written, what... 1500-2000 years ago? obviously, if you believe god exists, he would still be active today, wouldn't he? well, then obviously, he could've changed some of his major thinkings, couldn't he? maybe he created evolution, to relieve his own work, god may be omnipotent, but he still feels time like anyone else, as he had to rest on the seventh day. maybe he doesn't feel time, but mental or creatorial fatigue.

so, evolution would've been created to help us develope while he could focus on other things. and besides, we know the bibal was written by men, and god's days may be significant'ly longer then ours, perhaps even milenia, so who's to say dinosaurs didn't exist? as they may have already come and gone during the "Days". since no man was around in the days, they could not really state what could have happened, unless god told them so, in which, if he felt something was unimportant, he would not have given an explanation or told humans about it.

sigh, i can't believe i just wrote this, guess i'm just bored.

in a way, this gives creationists and athiests a winning situation. god may have left earth, maybe he still exists, but is doing something else, or maybe he, seeing his work done, left, dissapeered, vanished.

hey, it's posible.
>> Anonymous
many people don't believe in god in a strictly biblical memorize all the inane stories and psalms sense... god is just a word to describe chance, luck, fate, the outside world, etc. also god could be any fricken thing imaginable, if we're in the matrix, its the machines, if the big bang was started by a superior alien thingamajig, then thats god too... get the drift?
>> Anonymous
>>796439
Your "god" makes more sense than a loving, kind, caring god who takes babies to heaven/hell/limbo.
>> Anonymous
>>796434

Except that God exists outside of time so he doesn't "still feel time like anyone else" and He does still work in the world. Sadly, most people are too fond of wallowing in ignorance to be able see Him working.
>> Anonymous
>>796434
bored but right.
what i think is that, if god does exist, he already abandoned us since the begining of time, sice he kicked out adam and eve from the garden of eden, so if there is a god, he probably doesnt give a shit, he could have make us, but thats it, and besides, who the fuck puts a forbidden tree in a place like that?

why even put something thats forbidden to "Test" something that you created if your perfect.

The thing is that there is no god, no evidence, not even a slight clue, the bibles goes nowhere, jesus probably did exist, but you know how things get blown away out of proportion, he probably was just someone really wise, and people followed him, wich was something good, but he wasnt the son of god or anything like that, mary probably commited adultery and in order to hide this she maked the story that an angel approached her.

So life is just a chemical reaction, that started from the so called big bang, and death is just death and it ends there, no heaven or hell.

So believing in god is something i find pathetic, since, alot of people wait for "god" to fix all their problems and to magicly give them money and things, stuff happens because other stuff happens, either its the way the wind blows or how someone talked to you in the morning, there is no divine intervention.

God didnt create humans, Humans created God.
>> Anonymous
>>796434
This is exactly the way I feel about the evolution/creation debate.
>> Anonymous
>>796446
Show me a demonstration of how you've seen him "working" please.
>> Anonymous
christians in my 4chan?
gtfo
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>> Anonymous
>>796508
i know your a piece of shit, but shit can be right sometimes too, Overpopulation slowly kills the planet. If people would use more condoms, there would be unwanted children, so we need to get rid of a Few billions so we can breath and live long happy lives... i say we get rid of the US.
>> Anonymous
>>796508

Before they can...Learn to Spell.
Before they can...Learn wtf is Grammar.

Oh wait, you made it.