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Anonymous
So why do Americans love this arsehole so much? He gonna cure cancer or some shit?
>> Anonymous
To answer your question, yes...or not...no probably not...
>> Anonymous
Who is he :|.
>> Anonymous
>>895397
Not cancer...lupus.
>> VIVA LA TRIPFAGGOTRY! !OK8FhyWNXk
>>895400
You had best be joking nigger.
>> Anonymous
The guy shaking his head is Ron Paul... and he owns your ass.

The guy wagging his finger is John McCain who was part of the Keating Five (wiki it)
>> Anonymous
I'm American, and I think Ron Paul is a douche.
>> Anonymous
I'm an American, and I think he's a total moron.
>> Anonymous
is it because you yourselves are morons?

</Magic Eight Ball Shake>

SIGNS POINT TO YES
>> Anonymous
I'm an American, and I like bacon.
>> Anonymous
>>895437
Close, but you're not American until you say you love the baconator.
>> Anonymous
>>895437
That is why Allah hates you with your bacon eating ways.... ham, BLT, pepperoni pizza, pork ribs...
death to america... errr im hungry
>> Anonymous
I'm an Earthling, and I think I will die no matter what I do.
>> Anonymous
>>895414
Yeah, I'm voting for Hilary just to spite you and your stupid post.
>> Anonymous
>>895524
Faggot. You fuck yourself with voting for that cunt.
>> Anonymous
This guy surprises me as being more for the American than any fucking presidential nominee, from both parties.

I never thought I would vote for a Republican until I started following this guy's message.

If you give a shit about your civil liberties, if you think we have more problems at home than in the Middle East, then you should hope this guy either gets the Republican nomination or runs as an Independent in 08.
>> Anonymous
>>895618
This guy would also be responsible for giving all the legislative power to money hungry multi national corporations, thus demolishing any hope of a truly free society. Thank you, I win. Goodbye
[/thread]
>> Anonymous
>>895624
Speaking about Anonymous or Ron Paul? I don't think either candidate has those plans. Sir, you must be confused.
>> Anonymous
>>895618
>>If you give a shit about your civil liberties, if you think we have more problems at home than in the Middle East, then you should hope this guy either gets the Republican nomination or runs as an Independent in 08.
>>then you should hope this guy either gets the Republican nomination or runs as an Independent in 08.
>>then you should hope this guy gets the Republican nomination and then loses to a human being with a jot of fucking sense in 08.
Fix'd
>> Anonymous
>>895624
Bush already did that, Paul's the one who wants to undo such mistakes. Thanks.
>> Anonymous
>>895637
Then tell me how exactly does having less government and MORE corporations aid in undoing such mistakes? I'm afraid you are teh FAIL, asshole!
>> Anonymous
Ron Paul is the only nominee ever mentioning the Constitution. Gee, what an idea! Meanwhile, there actually are people who would consider voting for a guy who went on adulterous trysts paid for by taxpayers, they'd consider voting for a Massachusetts robot who can't seem to answer a question or pick a position, then there's McCain who shines on the torture issue but is a goon on everything else.
>> Anonymous
>>895637
>>Bush already did that, Paul's the one who wants to undo such mistakes. Thanks.
>>Every American Politician did that, Paul's a nutjob who pretends he can undo such mistakes. I am a giant, brain damaged faggot.
Fix'd.
>> Anonymous
He isn't a puppet for the illuminati. /thread
>> Anonymous
It doesn't matter who we vote for. In 4 years, providing only that we survive that long, we'll be wanting to vote for someone who will undo all of the things the next President will do anyway. I foresee the same thing in the 4 years after that too.
>> Anonymous
>>895652
We have a Winrar!

This is American politics in a nutshell.

"Shit, don't like these people! SWING TO THE OTHER EXTREME!"
>> Anonymous
People should stay alert. Theres always something wrong with politicians; you just need to look hard, and almost every time you'll be able spot it. Seriously, think of one that hasn't disappointed you in some way. If you look at this new batch, they seem to offer hope based off on all the wrong doings the Bush administration committed. While doing this, they could successfully deviate peoples attention from some fundamental flaws their "plans for the future" might have. I'm just advising everyone to question things a little bit more. Just cuz it sounds like it's gonna solve the problem, doesn't mean it's going to.
>> Anonymous
Political discussions on 4chan make me lawl.
>> Anonymous
>>895662
trollkill
>> Anonymous
It's sad when the deconstruction of democracy in Russia and Venezuela is more interesting to me than the preservation of it in America.
>> Anonymous
>>895674

thank you, professor internet.
>> Anonymous
As much as I would hate voting for a woman, voting for Hillary is like voting for Bill again. Whether you want to admit it or not, the country was doing awesome during Clinton's presidency. You know that whole deficit thing? We didn't have that. We had a fucking surplus. Now we are like hundreds of billions (trillions?) in debt and social security will be dead fucking broke by the time all the baby boomers get their first checks. And we still gotta pay into it. Huzzah.

I'm split between Hillary and Ron Paul.
>> Anonymous
in b4 nazis
>> Anonymous
You mean the same surplus as during EVERY OTHER PRESIDENCY (Save Herbert Hoover, but we just followed Europe into the Great Depression)? Ditch this shit. Clinton was a Jackass, Clinton is a Jackass, Ron Paul is a Jackass, everyone fucking sucks.
>> Anonymous
>>895679
We we're gaining a surplus, we were still a fuckton in debt and have been for a long while. We didn't all of a sudden gain all our debt once Bush took office, he sure as fuck didn't help it though.

Hillary is a socialist bitch, why would you vote for that?
>> Anonymous
In response to all the Paul hating... What candidate is better? We have two socialist (Obama and Hilary) a guy who used tax payers dollars to go see his mistress (Giuliani) a mormon who can't choose anything (Romney) a guy who believes if we weren't an isolationist country we would have stopped Hitler (who won a DEMOCRATIC election) from rising to power even though at the time America liked Hitler and Hitler liked America. And then a bunch of other dickheads who don't matter.
>> Anonymous
>>895679

we haven't had a budget surplus since before jimmy carter was in office, but yeah... its been worse lately
>> Anonymous
>>895714

oh shit that last guy was McCain by the way. forgot to add that.
>> Anonymous
>>895714
Who's better?

There's this wino around the corner... I can't understand half of what he says, but that puts him 50% ahead of Ron Paul... because I understand what that bitch says, and it's all crazy bullshit.
>> Anonymous
Ummm... wasn't the biggest budget surplus at the end of the Clinton administration?
>> Anonymous
hey faggots, have fun voting for your electoral college voter. just hope that they actually vote the way you tell em to, cause they are under no obligation to do so.

regular americans are to stupid to vote for their own leader.
>> Anonymous
He's a fundamentalist, but substitute the US constitution for the bible

He is fairyland rhetoric and myopic, inward-looking nostalgia for some bygone mythical image of Mayflower America
>> Anonymous
>>895723
Yeah something like 230 billion I think, google for it.
>> Anonymous
>>895724
And thank God for that - somehow, against all reason, it seems like half the Americans voted for that dipshit Bush. We should be so lucky that an elector had said "No, fuck that noise, I'd like someone with a two-digit IQ".
>> Anonymous
First off: gb2/n/.
Secondly, anyone who thinks smaller government = better government must also think that smaller penis = better penis. Size does not determine effectiveness or cost. I can buy a $30k truck that weighs 1.5 tons and over twenty feet long or I can buy a $300k sports car that weighs 0.5 tons and under twelve feet long.

Also, anyone who believes Ron Paul is a strict constitutionalist is really buying into his rhetoric. Scalia is a strict constitutionalist but you don't hear him saying he wants to get rid of amendments.
>> Anonymous
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HAI GUYZ! ITS PARTAH TIEM NAO!?
>> Anonymous
Ron Paul is teh best candidate, cuz once he wins, my state can kick out the jews and the homos, and refuse to recognize interracial marriages, and that'll be fun, no fed to say boo!
>> Anonymous
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YOU GUYZ ARNT PARTAHING YET!
>> Anonymous
>>895723

Sorry, I wish that were the case, but it isn't... We haven't had a budget surplus since before Jimmy Carter was in office.

If you divide the entire population into families of three, each family owes $48,000 to the toal foreign debt (China). It is the fault of the population for this, for allowing such poor government for the last 25 years.

I think the reason for the misconception is that certain classifications of congressional/government spending is classified as 'emergency' and therefore, they don't count against that year's planned gov't budget. Clinton may have met his budget in his last year, but government income was behind government spending in all of his years in office, the same with GW Bush.
>> Anonymous
>>895741
lol wut
>> RON PAUL Anonymous
YOU'RE AN IDIOT IF YOU WANT THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT TO BE BIGGER THAN IT IS.

JUST GIVE OVER YOUR LIFE TO BIG BROTHER RIGHT NOW YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE IDIOT!!@!
>> Anonymous
Before anyone else makes their veins explode with the blood of their ancestors over a political arguement, may i remind you all that we are on 4CHAN...and that we need to get on the PARTAH BUS!
>> RON PAUL RON PAUL
Small government is good, because it can't run much of anything! That way, we can all do whatever people with money want, like the Founding Fathers intended.
>> Anonymous
>>895749

My bad, I misspoke. The national debt is shared as about $30,000 per person.

http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/
>> Anonymous
>>895764
Huzzah for a step back to oligarchy!
>> RON PAUL
>>895770
Oli-whojie? I just doesn't wants ta pay no taxes! Taxes bad! Ron Paul Good! States smart! Feds Dumb!
>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
>>YOU'RE AN IDIOT IF YOU WANT THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT TO BE BIGGER THAN IT IS.

You're an idiot if you think the US government is so big due to choice rather than absolute necessity.
>> Anonymous
>>895782

this
>> sage
>>895782
Lol, you fucking naive moron.

All governments seek greater power, its intrinsic to them.
Name me one govt that has given up power in the past 50 years because it was unnecessary?

Bureacracy != necessity.
>> RON PAUL
>>895782
You're an idiot if you think all of our government is NECESSARY. You're also an idiot if you think most of our government is UNNECESSARY. You're an even bigger idiot if you think you could quickly discern which parts were and weren't necessary.

In other words, if you think America can be "fixed" in 4 years by one man... you're a giant retard.
>> RON PAUL
>>895794
Funny enough, Hillary Clinton is on record talking about giving back some of the crazy ass powers "republican" president bush has stolen since the luckiest day of his goddamn life (9/11).
>> Anonymous
This guy is so against regulation, he would turn America COMPLETELY over to the corporations. I'd rather have incompetant morons in the government running things than CEOs who are trying to make money off the whole thing.

He's anti-choice, anti-net neutrality, all he does is spout "FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM TAX CUT TAX CUT TAX CUT" and the whole internet swoons over his dumb ass. I thought we would have learned from george bush. I guess not.

I'll take the worst Democrat over the best Republican any day of the week.
>> ? Anonymous
well no shit and it wont be fixed my removing amendments
>> Anonymous
starting politics threads should be a b&
>> Anonymous
>>895811
Truth.

Or, at least, mentioning fucking Ron Paul, which seems to bring out all the crazies.
>> Anonymous
>>895818
Loves Giuliani
>> RON PAUL Anonymous
>>895794

YOU'RE THE FUCKING NAIVE MORON!!!!!!

RON PAUL WILL NEVER WIN THE FUCKING NOMINATION YOU SILLY STUPID ASSHOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> Anonymous
mitt romney scares me. If he was president... would NOT be good
>> Anonymous
>>895841
Why?
>> Anonymous
JJJJJJJJJJJJJEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

(ron paul is a fucking lunatic.)
>> RON PAUL
>>895844
Because, except for ten guys on the internet, everyone realizes he's a fucking nutjob, and would destroy the country.
>> Anonymous
>>895850
I don't think 10 guys from the internet can donate 5m
>> RON PAUL
>>895853
Hyperbole. It's a wonderful thing.

5m is about enough money to take a shit in Washington. RP supporters are only impressed by it because they tend to be morons who can't handle math. Otherwise, they'd figure out that Useful Government - Taxes = Well Shit.
>> Anonymous
>>895864
thinks if you get rid of Fed Income tax the government would collapse.

Lurk Moar
>> RON PAUL
>>895870
Thinks the federal government can operate based on money drawn indirectly, from the states, which will of course be raised by magic instead of taxes.

Think Moar.
>> Anonymous
>>895872
lol
>> Anonymous
>>895872
Federal Income Tax is not the only source taxes come from...
>> Anonymous
>>895880
Just one of the least REGRESSIVE ones, because it's based on, y'know, INCOME, and not buying the car you take to work.

Shifting taxes to other sources doesn't reduce the burden, it just moves it around - and generally puts a disproportionate percentage onto the middle and lower classes by comparison.
>> Anonymous
>>895882
Where do you guys think that tax goes to.
>> Anonymous
Ron Paul will restore America to the rule of law, will eliminate bullshit government spending, force a balanced budget so that we don't have to take any more loans out to keep our country running, will eliminate the Federal Reserve system which has robbed this nation, end the wars of conquest in the Middle East, bring our troops across the globe back home where they belong, wants to restore the power of the States, and will work to dismantle the welfare-state.

As for politicians, I haven't seen a bit of dirt on this guy... and believe me, when it comes to the mainstream media, they're tryin real hard to find something. Every week I read hit pieces on Ron Paul; they call him an isolationist and outdated.

Truth is, he looks to the Constitution for guidance in matters of government. If following the goddamn Constitution is outdated, then why the fuck do we pretend that we live in a Democratic Republic?

Hilary is a neoconservative at heart, and all other candidates (except maybe Kucinich) really belong to the same party - the war-state party.

If you want real, lasting change, I think this guy Ron Paul could do it.
>> Anonymous
Ron Paul is the most reasonable of the republicans that are running. But that isn't saying much.
>> Anonymous
>>895890
>>If following the goddamn Constitution is outdated, then why the fuck do we pretend that we live in a Democratic Republic?

Uhm, because, I dunno, like, 200+ years have passed since a bunch of upper class white dudes tried to figure out how to get the "representation" for other upper class white dudes?

Among other things, we decided niggers weren't actually 3/5ths of a person, through advanced calculus. Oh, and we invented, basically, THE MODERN FUCKING WORLD. Y'know, factories, trains, cars, internet, airplanes, funyuns... all that good shit the founding fathers never got to taste.

So, yeah, outdated.
>> Anonymous
>>895896
factories came out in the UK i beleive.
>> Anonymous
>>895895

"Most reasonable Republican" is like "Most delicious turd." Sure, it's a distinction, but not one that will ever matter to me.
>> Anonymous
Mike Huckabee

/thread
>> Anonymous
>>895896
oh yeah airplanes and cars doesnt and shouldnt change government.
>> Anonymous
>>895890

Fail propaganda is fail.
>> Anonymous
>>895899
Eventually, though, we got them in the US. Amazing, isn't it?
>> Anonymous
>>895904
Seriously. These retards need to read their Goebbels, watch more Triumph of the Will and Victory of Belief... they know NOTHING about selling a charismatic whacko's fucked-up theories to The People.
>> Anonymous
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>>895890
Not animooted but oh so appropriate.

>Ron Paul will restore America to the rule of law
Except in the unlikely event (nigh impossible really) that he becomes President he has no power to do such.

>force a balanced budget
Again, no such power. Also, even if he accomplishes such nothings to stop the next president or change Congressional appropriations and spending (i.e. the president may draw up the budget but Congress actually assigns the money).

>the Federal Reserve system which has robbed this nation
Oh gods, this is too stupid to touch on.

>end the wars of conquest in the Middle East
As is this one.

>bring our troops across the globe back home where they belong
So America "belongs" to break all defense treaties?

>wants to restore the power of the States
Hello Civil War 2.0

>the welfare-state
Poster obviously doesn't know the meaning of the term.

>I haven't seen a bit of dirt on this guy
He's a great guy, but that doesn't change the fact he would be a terrible president. As if somehow personal integrity determines one's political ability.

>they call him an isolationist and outdated.
That's not dirt. That's accurate reporting.

>Truth is, he looks to the Constitution for guidance in matters of government.
Which assumes the Constitution is always right. So a black man is only worth 3/5 of a white man and a woman of any color isn't worth a thing, amirite?

>If following the goddamn Constitution is outdated, then why the fuck do we pretend that we live in a Democratic Republic?
Again, too stupid to even touch upon.

You've earned your epic failure today.
>> Anonymous
>>895904
wrong
>> Anonymous
>>895899
Mechanization came from the UK, the assembly line system (which just about every factory relies upon) came from America.
>> Anonymous
>>895908
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-466210540567002553
>> Anonymous
>>895908
i didn't learn a god damned thing.

why should i vote for anyone else?
or should i ask if i should even vote?
>> Anonymous
>>895914
Still shouldnt change the opinions of the founders. They understood entrepreneurship which that stuff falls under, that has nothing to do with government.
>> sage sage
sage sage sage who the hell cares about this shit
>> Anonymous
>>895915
Do you have a point to make or do you just want to illustrate your uberfailure?
>> Anonymous
>>895850
Sadly there's a rather large group of students at my university who're trying to get everyone to vote for Ron Paul.
>> Anonymous
>>895928
not a bad thing
>> Anonymous
>>895918
Who says your supposed to learn anything? Do your own research, ask your own questions, and then get learn and/or get ridiculed for your ignorance. There are no stupid questions except those not asked.
>> Anonymous
>>895928
If you have a Poli Sci department you might want to ask one of the professors to hold a seminar or an informal Q&A session on Ron Paul and see if they're willing to attend.
>> Anonymous
>>895928
When I see this, Im like.. "a none educated person on 4chan upset about abunch of college students getting people to vote someone" is there something wrong with me?
>> Anonymous
>>895935
>is there something wrong with me?
Yes. You assume stupidly. Supposing he knows a lot of students in "his" university he is either a student or part of the faculty. Either way he isn't like to be "none educated".
>> Anonymous
>>895932
Unfortunately I have virtually no relation with the political science department. Besides, at least at this university, special quarterly lectures don't have a great track record of attracting people who are neutral or have an opposing opinion to the one being given in a lecture. In short, none of the people you want to attend really attend in significant numbers.

>>895935
It wouldn't bug me so much if half the words they used to support their stance weren't 'Ron Paul will end the war.'
>> Anonymous
>>895944
>Unfortunately I have virtually no relation with the political science department.
If your university is anything like mine you can always pitch the idea and considering the looming primaries it may catch on. And the idea is to challenge them to put up or shut up. If they show up and have almost all of their rhetoric blown out of the water they'll probably become irrelevant. If they don't show up, they display their lack of spine and support and also become irrelevant. I do hope they continue to be politically active but I hope they would at least do it rationally. Thinking of which, I wonder how many of them are also Pro-Life. . .
>> Anonymous
>>895938
True I assumed without clearly reading, obviously my reading fails.
>>895944
It is annoying when people only 'advertise' one thing but I guess they need a way to really grab attention. Im sure a person would say 'oh this guy wants to end the war.. i want the war to end, maybe ill go research info on this candidate'. I still wouldnt vote for anyone with out looking every info up.

unfortunately there are people who follow blindly
>> Anonymous
>>895954
I bet theyre pro choice.
>> Anonymous
>>895958
>unfortunately there are TOO MANY people who follow blindly
Adjusted for accuracy.
>> Anonymous
>>895963
thanks
>> Anonymous
And notice how as soon as the thread hits autosage the ronfags disappear.
>> SAGE SAGE
>>895993
actually i saged the thread but support him lol
>> Anonymous
Every candidate besides Ron Paul wants to regulate the internet and allow the FCC to have their way with us. That means no more 4chan and porn being harder to find. Hillary Clinton especially has a history of censorship.

Ron Paul is the only pro-internet porn candidate, so you'd all have to hate yourselves to vote for anyone else.
>> Anonymous
RON PAUL 2008, OR ARE YOUR A NIGGERLOVER?
AND FUCK YEAH CRUISE CONTROL
>> Anonymous
>>895899
Bing bing.

>>895890
I don't think it matters what kind of governing system we prescribe to, as long as it can be made to play fairly amongst itself and amongst its people. Besides, shouldn't aspiring to move closer towards the "full democracy" side of the scale be the modus operandi, if we have such faith in a system of greedy mob stupidity canceling out greedy mob stupidity?

>>896076
It's choices like these that gave us Bush for eight years. Forget your damned ethics and your damned moralities about abortion, regulations, yadda, yadda, yadda; Americans instinctively have trouble trusting people who change power structures unless they're godly charismatic. I would rather vote for someone I could believe could actually be able to fill a prescribed role than get in there and do something else. There are WORSE problems in this society that need some type of sorting than your fetuses and your homosexuals and these are the problems you can't solve but only figure how to endure.
>> Anonymous
I like Ron Paul because he looks like a comic book character straight from the 50's.
>> Anonymous
>>895741Secondly, anyone who thinks smaller government = better government must also think that smaller penis = better penis.

Behold, the dumbest analogy in a political discussion, ever.
>> Anonymous
People who don't vote for Ron are the ones who have been brainwashed beyond repair.

The ones who will keep living in false fear for the rest of their lives. While you type are busy sucking the Governments dick and collecting your welfare checks, the rest of us will be trying to make a difference. I've been doing the same shit for so many years and ain't shit gotten better. It's time to wise up and fuckin do something else.
>> Anonymous
>>895397

b/c he is made of win.