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WTC7 Anonymous
EXPOSE TRUTH!


www.infowars.com
>> Anonymous
>>1248276
fail gif. no comedy attempt put into it
>> Anonymous
ugh, retards
>> Anonymous
does no one realize that two fucking TOWERS collapsed next to this thing? i guess the only way for a building to fall is if a plane hits it
>> Anonymous
>>1248281
>does no one realize that two fucking TOWERS collapsed next to this thing?
don't you realize it fell down in a perfect, controlled demolition way? Buildings don't perfectly implode on itself unless with help from strategically placed explosives.
>> Anonymous
Except that not near enough debris hit it and WTC5 and 6 were right next to it and the twin towers collapsed on them and yet a very good portion of them were left standing.

And what about the molten steel in not just the twin towers but WTC7 too? hm?

And BTW, the official report is that fires in wtc7 caused it's collapse.
>> Anonymous
>>1248283
no...the towers were designed so that they would fall down that way should anything happen, it causes the least amount of damage to the surroundings. you think the designers are as fucking retarded as you are to just let the towers destroy everything nearby if they fell?
>> Anonymous
No they were not.

The fact of the matter is that wtc7 was one of the most fortification-designed buildings in New York. It had the mayors bunker in it, FBI backup databases, and many other high security aspects.

Why how the "designers" design a top priority building to fall easily? It doesn't make sense. It makes much more sense if they designed it to take alot of damage.
>> Anonymous
Am I the only one waiting for a slowpoke?
>> Anonymous
Fuck you terrorists
>> Anonymous
911 discussion on my 4chan?
>> Anonymous
>>1248286
>I'm making up bullshit because I got owned
>> Anonymous
>>1248280
>>1248281
>>1248286

Whats the matter? Why must you invent lies to defend the official conspiracy theory? I know it is painful to admit it, but we either did it or allowed it to happen... just like pearl harbor.

I want the truth.
>> Anonymous
WTC7 was pulled. There's photographic evidence that the main support beams had the characteristic 45 degree angle cutter charge damage. The steel was hastily gathered up and shipped to china for reprocessing. Odd, considering that crime scene evidence is normally kept for decades. Even the USS maine wreckage was kept until recently
>> Anonymous
>WTC7 was pulled.

You mean, it was brought down with cabels? Because that is what the term "to pull" means in the demolition business.
>> Anonymous
no it isnt.
>> Anonymous
Fucking troofer retards. Take this shit to /b/.
>> Anonymous
>>1248348
"Pull" just means to bring down, it doesn't matter how it's done.
>> Anonymous
>>1248407
Bullshit. Go on, post references to its use in the demolition trade, pre-troofer.
>> Anonymous
>>1248283

"a controlled demolition way". Holy fuck, take a step back and listen to what you're saying.

WTC7 was massively damaged on the South side by falling debris, there are numerous pictures showing much of the building simply missing and fires raging throughout. There was also massive transformers around floor 7 and diesel fuel tanks and relays from the ground floor up containing tens of thousands of gallons of fuel.

Also if a building was to fall it would fall down. Plain and simple. Gravity tends to do that. Controlled demolitions only take place to ensure 100% the safety of surrounding buildings, it's not like that are defying physics when they do it. You try and alter the inertia of a couple hundred thousand tones... you pretty much have to go out of your way to make it go anyway BUT straight down.

That's not to say nothing about 9/11, the collapse of either tower or WTC7 is suspicious, or at the very least unlikely. But don't go around saying it's impossible because it makes you look like a fucking retard.
>> Anonymous
You people are trying to argue with an uneducated, contrarian, conspiracy theorist fool. If he and his cohorts were to leave the U.S. tomorrow, the psychotic moron quotient would fall drastically.
>> Anonymous
Was all Bush's fault.
>> Anonymous
>>1248414
You're fucking stupid, I hope you know that
>> Anonymous
>>1248426

That's an incredible argument you have there.
>> Anonymous
>>1248427
no different than his, he just didn't pull a B^U
>> Anonymous
>>1248426

They seem reasonably intelligent to me, unlike most of the people here.
>> Anonymous
>>1248430
I detect samefaggotry.
>> Anonymous
>>1248431

You detect wrong.

>>1248427is
>>1248414though.
>> Anonymous
>>1248433
>Oh shit! I got caught backing up my own comments! I better abuse the anonymous system again and try to cover my ass!
>> Anonymous
>>1248414
Then show us the pictures, would you please.
>> Anonymous
>>1248436

The "samefag" argument is always amusing to watch, especially when you're one of the people accused of being somebody else. It's also great because anon is just assuming and has no way to back up his argument.
>> Anonymous
>>1248431

hahah I concur...
>> Anonymous
>>1248439

I'd rather see the pictures of these buildings being "pulled" down, and without any witnesses.
>> Anonymous
>>1248439
seconded
>> Anonymous
>>1248444
Well, if those pictures>>1248439wants truly exist, I'd really like to examine them. I'd like to see if some of the support columns that were holding the building up were damaged.
>> Anonymous
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No samefaggotry. Just some but hurt fag who can't back up any of his beliefs.
>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
>>1248451

You wouldn't know what a fucking support column was even if I placed one in front of you anyway. What the fuck would you do with a picture. The only thing you're basing your claims on is a 7 minute segment in Zeitgeist on WTC7. A fucking trained professional probably couldn't ascertain the structural integrity of a given column on a fucking blurry picture, and you a painfully obvious dilettante, expect to get something out of it? Get fucked.
>> Anonymous
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>>1248452
>>1248453
>>1248455
Hey! Those images remind me of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City which didn't fall until it was demolished via controlled explosions!
>> Anonymous
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>>1248276
>>1248283
>>1248285
>>1248292
>>1248321
>>1248330
>>1248407
>>1248423
>>1248451

I made this for you all!
>> Anonymous
>>1248459
I've never seen Zeitgeist.
>> Anonymous
>>1248459
>>1248452
>>1248453
All butthurt samefag who's fucking wrong, yet try to sound like they know what the fuck they are talking about.
>> Anonymous
>>1248462

Nothing like comparing two separate buildings who experienced two separate forms of destruction before collapse. I love your standards for evidence.

I'm not on here making any claims anyway since I'm not an expert. I don't know how WTC7 came down, not being a structural engineer and all. But I can recognize when someone is talking out there ass. I'm not saying the buildings came down because of the damage. I'm saying it's more likely they came down because of damage then some larger over-arching conspiracy involving bombs, various government officials and numerous others. That doesn't mean the "Bush did it" or "Zionists did it" people are wrong it just means making absolutist claims about shit you have no idea about is a good way to put your foot in your mouth. Anyway you look at it anyone who claims that it was an "inside job" or false flag op or whatever still has all their work ahead of them.
>> Anonymous
>>1248471
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH
>> Anonymous
ITT: /n/ews
ITT: TROOF

Ok, the term "pull it" has little to do with controlled demolition.

In controlled demolitions, the set up takes weeks, if not MONTHS to do. It requires EXTENSIVE modifications to be performed to the buildings support systems. Most of the concrete surrounding the key support structures must be removed and the explosives placed DIRECTLY ONTO THE SUPPORTING STEEL STRUCTURES.

There is no way to do this and not been seen or herd. Also, the sheer amount of explosives needed to pull off a controlled demolition of such a large building as WTC 7 precludes it from being done in secret.

The guy who said "pull it"... was the head fire-fighter of NYC and was referring to "pulling out" the firefighting companies that had been FIGHTING FIRES IN WTC7 FOR MORE THAT 5 HOURS. People forget that WTC7.

I think it is funny how the same government that these TROOFERS bash for fucking up "Katrina" are the same ones that think they could pull off some improbably complicated conspiracy.
>> Anonymous
>>1248474

Evidence bitch. Do you have it?
>> Anonymous
>>1248475
>There is no way to do this and not been seen or herd.

True, which is why it was documented that people who worked there saw "strange" people going in and out barred areas, and would hear sounds when there was no announced construction being done.

No matter what you look at, there seems to be inconsistencies. The government isn't telling the whole story.
>> Anonymous
>>1248276
>>"EXPOSE THE TRUTH"

Ok: the OP is a moron that will not believe the hundreds of PhD-holding Engineers that said there was no "conspiracy" and no "controlled demolition" because they don't support their stupid point of view!

>>1248468
It is like "Loose Change" but even more stupid, convoluted, and full of non-reliant information.

Also, OP should watch "Screw Loose Change", you can find the entire thing on Google Video
(http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3214024953129565561&q=screw+loose+change&ei=-M5lSI
DFJITErwLBiLnnAw)
(sorry for the long link)
>> Anonymous
You believe the government was capable of destroying those buildings, then demolating the remainder?

First off, what gains would they have for the very risky maneuver of secretly blowing up a building? Theyve already taken down two. Why take down another? The less people you have in this conspiracy, the better, so its less likely that one will blow. Theres no benefit to damaging WTC7

Second, why are the people who made these videos alive? If the government is capable of killing thousands of people for no reason but an excuse for war, wouldnt they be capable of taking your nerdy ass down?
>> Anonymous
http://911research.com/papers/dustvolume/volumev3_1.html
Nice math done by Jim Hoffman, a software engineer that works with tons of structural shit. Math is more solid than anything else. You may want to look into it.
>> Anonymous
>>1248484

Yes, someone makes a claim that the government kills Americans, and then mysteriously dies a while later. VERY SMART ON THE GOVERNMENT'S PART.
>> Anonymous
Defense rests on the prosecution! let this shit ride before a jury of actual "peers" not dumbass shit rednecks. Take it to court, you cowards!
>> Anonymous
post ending in 67 names my dog
>> Anonymous
>>1248488

Ass load of assumptions.

There could have been additional sources of energy beyond gravity or demolition charges. There is also no reason to believe that any demolition is going to create the MASSIVE disparities he's claiming in the required output vs FEMA's report.

Assuming that the dust cloud was composed primarily of concrete is also a crux since analysis of the "dust" shown that only 32% (or in that general area) was concrete or gypsum.
http://www.janegalt.net/blog/archives/004194.html

I'm not doubting Hoffman's math. I'm sure he knows his shit, seems reputable enough when you look into him. But his initial assumptions are completely unfounded and seem to skew the conclusion considerably.
>> Anonymous
I am just glad it happened, or I'd have nothing to read right now. 9-11 I mean.
>> Anonymous
>>1248499

Also by Hoffman's conclusion the energy generated was 1/10 required to create that dust could. If we were to use his numbers, and keeping in mind that 1 metric ton of TNT creates 4.2 TJ of energy upon detonation, http://www.answers.com/topic/megaton?cat=technology - that means they would have needed to somehow implant nearly 2 million tons of explosives (TNT) into each building to cause that energy release.

Which do you feel is more likely? 4 million tons of explosives were carted into WTC South and North, or that Hoffman is off in his initial assessment?
>> Anonymous
>>1248507

tons = pounds
>> Anonymous
>>1248504
so edgy XD
>> Anonymous
>>1248518

I was about to ask you to reconsider your calculations.
>> Anonymous
>>1248525

^.^ I'm a fag.
>> Anonymous
>>1248484
>>1248484
Because then it would be obvious they did something wrong. Man are people getting stupid or what?
>> Anonymous
wtc7 was brought down by thermite, not tnt, that why there was molten steel in ruins for weeks.
>> Anonymous
>>1248539

It would still take an insane amount of thermite to create the necessary energy required. It's also an incendiary not a high pressure wave explosive, so it's going to have an even tougher time accounting for the energy discrepancies in Hoffman's conclusion.
>> Anonymous
>>1248549
Tons of stuff was blown outward from the top. Didn't just fall straight down.
>> Anonymous
>>1248546

I corrected it and said you'll need 4 million pounds.... well 3.6 if you want to split hairs. But it would still be an insane amount of TNT.

>>1248539

Thermite is a cutting agent. In demolitions even after thermite is used some other type of explosive is required to blow the supports.
>> Anonymous
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WTC DID WTC BRAHS
>> Anonymous
>>1248554

I don't see tons of stuff being blown anywhere in any of the WTC's. Watch the video's again nothing gets "blown" upward.
>> Anonymous
9/11

Making structural engineers out of /b/tard's since 2001.

motivational get
>> Anonymous
Gentlemen,
Just go onto google video and watch:
Loose Change (or Loose Change Final Cut)
That will answer all the questions posed herein.
/thread
>> Anonymous
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No.1248532

Then maybe they just don't do it because if they'd do it then it would seem they did something wrong.

And on and on and on...
>> Anonymous
>>1248570

You don't have to be a structural engineer to realize that 10 times 4 x 10^11 joules of potential energy is a fuck of a lot of TNT... christ, it's a lot for a small nuclear explosive. lrn2math fuck face.

Also, this isn't /b/.
>> Anonymous
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>>1248573

5/10
>> Anonymous
>>1248507
I took all those 1000000 kwh in those web calcs as .857 of 1KT of energy. Got about 10000000kwh. 8.4KT.

Took the 140000 KWH, to .11KT.
>> Anonymous
Haliburton still trades children to Saudi-Arabia, where the AOC is 9 for Muslims, and nothing for non-Muslims.
>> Anonymous
I took all those 1000000000000000000 kwh in those web calcs as .854564657657 of 1.000.000.000.000.000KT of energy. Got about 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000kwh. 8456456453123156.321321321564KT.

Took the 1400000000000000000000000000000000000000000 KWH, to 0.00000000000000000000000111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111KT.
>> Bitches don't know about my physics Anonymous
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http://www.implosionworld.com/news.htm#1
http://www.implosionworld.com/Article-WTC%20STUDY%208-06%20w%20clarif%20as%20of%209-8-06%20.pdf

ASSERTION #1
"The towers' collapse looked exactly like explosive demolitions."
PROTEC COMMENT: No they didn't. It's the "where."

ASSERTION #2
"But they fell straight down into their footprint."
PROTECT COMMENT: They did not. They followed the path of least resistance, and there was a lot of resistance.

ASSERTION #3
"But explosive charges (aka plumes, squibs, etc.) can clearly be seen shooting from several floors just prior to collapse."
PROTECT COMMENT: No, air and debris can be seen pushing violently outward, which is a natural and predictable effect of rapid structural collapse.
>> Anonymous
jfs you guys are fags.
heres something that will do the conversion for you idiots.

http://www.convert-me.com/en/convert/energy
>> Anonymous
If it wasn't for the the Bush family being friends with the Bin-Laden family, we couldn't spend trillions of dollars sending troops to Iraq where they can get sores from washing their clothes in water with human feces that was cleaned and regulated by Haliburton.
>> Anonymous
>>1248573
See>>1248482

Sage for idiots going IT IS A CONSPIRACY AND EVERYONE WHO DOESN'T AGREE WITH ME IS FAGGOTS
>> Anonymous
>>1248604
What conspiracy? Bush using his Bin-Laden Saudi connections to help a friend get an insurance settlement on two useless buildings the month after he takes one out is a perfectly reasonable idea.
>> Anonymous
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOq3HYRiG7Y
If this isn't thermite or a derivative, tell me what it is.
>> Anonymous
>>1248607
>two useless buildings
>perfectly reasonable idea.

Haha ow wow
>> sage sage
ITT: Gaiafags slapping dicks together about something the jews did.
>> Anonymous
>>1248609
Yeah, but it's not a conspiracy.
>> Anonymous
>>1248609
>>Haha ow wow

>>1248611
>>Gaiafags

Man, that shit is oooooooold. Update your psyops, will ya?
>> Anonymous
>>1248614

The fuck are you talking about? What you described is the definition of a conspiracy.

Allthough, since they never did such a thing, they did not conspire.

Also, I'm being trolled.
>> Anonymous
>>1248480
>>"...saw "strange" people going in and out barred areas..."

And there are people who will swear up and down that have seen Elvis, alive and well, decades after his death... do you believe them too?

ITT: people believe that the government in somehow capable of creating a large, and improbably complicated conspiracy to destroy buildings in New York, Virginia, and (possibly) Washington DC. They use the testimony of people who where directly involved in a very traumatic event (many time taken out of context or providing an artificial context that fits their conclusion) in order to bolster their claims. They are also rely on "experts" in related fields of study (such as, in "Loose Change", a failed bridge designer) to assert their view of ambiguous "facts" and then say those who have directly relevant backgrounds (Like the guys at the NTSB, BATF, FBI, etc and numerous structural engineering schools) are biased without providing a better, simpler explanation.
>> Anonymous
>>1248619
Hey... just because I have a degree in psychology AND work for the government doesn't mean I am psyops!
>> Anonymous
Is no one gonna debunk>>1248608?
>> Anonymous
>>1248620
It's only a conspiracy if it's a secret.

DRR DRR DRR, >>never did such a thing

Actually, there's enough proof for a counter suit from the insurance company, if they decided to persue it. Come one, one month? After there already was one bombing? If your wife dies one month after she gets life insurance coverage, you'd be doing time, innocent or not.
>> Anonymous
>>1248608

Think about this for a second. You're seeing what appears to be a molten/flaming debris falling from the corner of the building and you're going to tell me that if I can't think of something better than a shit load of thermite it's automatically thermite?... how about anything at all?

Do you realize how much thermite it would take to cause what you're seeing there? Do you understand how ridiculous and ineffective it would be to place the thermite at the fucking corners of the building? Much less that amount.

If that's not thermite tell me what it is... ahh fuck off. If Alex Jones didn't introduce you to thermite you would still have no fucking idea it even existed and now you're going to tell me it's the only thing that can cause things to melt? How do you know that's steel anyway? We both just watched the same video; How can you deduce all this clear and unassailable information from a shaky clip with a home video camera?

If there was thermite placed in the building the ignition source and thermite would have been placed in and around the interior support columns. Anything else would be a waste of time and thermite. Secondly you STILL need an explosion even if you do use thermite to take a building down reliably, and you defiantly need a considerable amount of it to account for Hoffman's claims.
>> Anonymous
>>1248625

I didn't say you were, but your "lingo" is out of date.
>> Anonymous
7 was damaged by falling materials from 1 and 2 [/END]
>> Anonymous
>>1248630

No you wouldn't. You would probably be investigated though.
>> Anonymous
>>1248498
this was brilliant....just sayin
>> Anonymous
Fires didn't cause the collapse of wtc7.

There have been buildings that have literally been consumed and engulfed in flames for over 12 hours even and they did not collapse.

And wtc7 could take a lot more of a beating then them and yet it collapsed. The other building in other words WERE weaker.

Not near enough debris and damage could of caused it to fall down.

And the simple fact is that it's falling was too perfect. It fell right in it's own foot prints. When demolition experts bring down old buildings it sometimes take weeks to set it up for it to do such. Period.

It's a 1 in a billion chance. A freak occurrence, and too many freak occurrences occurred that day.

The fact of the matter is that some kind of explosive device(and witnesses report explosions) or something like thermite had to be used. No no you don't need that much to do so. All you need is to blow/cut a few select columns and the building will do the rest. demolition was used. Regardless of who did it. Meaning I don't care if you believe the government did it or the terrorists did it. A fucking fire, debris and a gash in the side did not.
>> Anonymous
GTFO, conspiracyfag. We want tits and lulz, not bullshit.
>> Anonymous
>>1248637
It was the muffin men.

Just saying.
>> Anonymous
>>1248665

Actually, a bunch of people have been yelling for less porn in /gif/. Suck it up and deal with it.
>> Anonymous
>>1248660

Why is it when people say building 7, some fag says thermite? Everyone knows thermite burns too slow to be used in this way. Military grade blasting cord is the only way to get it to fall like it did. Meh, psyops. Next they'll bring out the "giant sparkler" theory, or the "Uber smoke snake". There goes memorial day and the 4th of July.
>> Anonymous
>>1248484

Oh, building 7 was home to some "black agencies", the kind of thing where their financial expenditures don't get listed.
>> No.1248678 Anonymous
Too slow?

You clearly don't know much about Thermite.

So how about you educate yourself first on actual science before you make bullshit claims that everyone knows thermite burns to slow. hm?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7231843493488769585
>> Anonymous
>>1248660

You're right. Damage from debris combined with fires and volatile internal infrastructure like the massive generators most likely led to it's weakening and subsequent collapse. This is also true. Those buildings have also been designed differently, most notably with concrete internal columns as opposed to steal. Also the most striking examples of fire damaged high rises didn't have planes crash into them or several tons of debris tear massive gashes in them either.

You have absolutely no idea how much damage WTC7 could sustain before collapse, nor do you have the slightest clue the type of damage that would cause it to lose stability. Even trained experts in relevant fields can only wager educated guesses I seriously doubt your in any position to make that claim when better men than you have stated otherwise.

A building will fall straight down. Gravity dictates it. The inertia of a massive building simply will not be dissuaded. There was no reason for the building to fall over to the building fell down and it is no where near as unlikely as you present it. Try getting your information from reputable sources as opposed to ones that simply echo your own opinions.
>> Anonymous
>>1248660

You know fuck all about demolition. You know how I know this? Because I know fuck all about demolition but I know enough to say that thermite alone will not bring a building down. Thermite is not an explosive, it's an incendiary. You could cut major columns in that building and the buildings is NOT "going to take care of itself". Massive amounts of charges would still be necessary to bring the building down, thermite just ensures that there will be no surprises in terms of where the breaks occur.

It's also worth pointing out that demolitions aren't the only way to bring a building straight down. Gravity will also do that job for you. The demolition industry exists for the sole purpose of ensuring that this type of collapse takes place - Not as the only cause of it. You and a lot of other people need very badly to understand this distinction.
>> Anonymous
>>1248683

You'll believe ANYTHING you're told wont you - so long as they say it with an air of confidence.
>> Anonymous
>>1248694
>> Anonymous
>>1248688

If thermite was good enough to accurately cut the steel members in buildings, that's what demolitions companies would use.

Up yours.
>> Anonymous
>>1248694

I wouldn't say massive. One man could carry enough shoot cord to take down a building without breaking a sweat. It's not -that- heavy.
>> Anonymous
>>1248492

This isn't how it worked with every secret police ever made, nope.
>> Anonymous
>>1248709

Nonsense. We're talking about some seriously heavy duty support structures that bare insane loads. They wont be moved easily, forget nearly destroyed beyond recognition.
>> Anonymous
>>1248697

No, but -you- can be paid to.
>> Anonymous
>>1248712

They use maybe 3-4 feet of blast cord to take out the major supports. Seriously, don't you even bother watching tv? The discovery channel covered this about nine years ago.
>> Anonymous
The problem with you psyops fags is you're still burning a torch trying to cover this shit, when the truth is, we applaud Bush and Cheney. They're the ultimate /b/-tards!

Exploding vans don't even compare. Shit, how can any 'channer top that?
>> Anonymous
political fail
>> Anonymous
Trillions of taxdollars spent, Haliburton selling kids to Saudi-Arabia, troops getting sores from washing their clothes in water with human shit that Haliburton says is clean and inspected...

FUCKING WIN!!!
>> Anonymous
911 was an inside jewb
>> Anonymous
>>1248691

It didn't have enough debris, damage combined to do so, simple as that.

Consider this-look at pic.

Why didn't buildings in red collapse? WTC5 and 6 where in the way of wtc7and took most of the debris. WTC3, 4 5, and 6(all in green) had a good portion of them left standing even after collapse. WTC5(blue) , a mucher weaker biulding, took much, much more damage then WTC7, was on fire to a much larger scale then wtc7 and burns for hours. Then twin towers collapsed on that, and yet much of it was left standing.

See pic of burning wtc5: http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/attack/docs/wtc5_fire_floors.jpg


>>1248705

THEY DO.
>> Anonymous
>>1248747

>>THEY DID 20 years ago.

-fixed for truth
>> Anonymous
>>1248747

Sorry, but it seems when I upload anything it FAILS on me.
>> Anonymous
>>1248756

>THEY DID 20 years ago, but not as much now, but they STILL DO USE IT.

Fixed for even more truth.
>> Anonymous
>>1248768
If you're talking about building 7, then go fuck yourself. That was shoot cord.
>> Anonymous
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBGwLBBYEl0
>> Anonymous
>>1248667
Dog just got named
>> Anonymous
>>1248804

Or, "it's raining men."
>> Anonymous
They admit to pulling building 7:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-7La15C15E

Combine these words with first collapse from fire ever = suspicious
>> Anonymous
>>1248574

lol at the kerokerokeroppi on his desk
>> Anonymous
>>1248811

>>They admit to pulling building 7

Jesus fuck, faggots can't get their stories straight, always changing shit. "Falling debris collapsed it" then "the fire caused the collapse", then "we decided to pull it". If a police interrogator had to hear that, dudes would be waiting years for their initial hearing.
>> Anonymous
>>1248819


Oh, I see. They had to wait for the insurance settlement to clear from the court.
>> Anonymous
>>1248633
>If Alex Jones didn't introduce you to thermite...
I knew what thermite was before I saw the clip. I saw it on TV a looooong time ago.
>...ahh fuck off...
Great debating skills.
>...Anything else would be a waste of time and thermite...
Look where the molten metal is flowing from -- that huge fucking hole that was blown out of the building. It's possible that molten metal was flowing from the center out.
>> Anonymous
ITT idiots
>> Anonymous
*thermate, not thermite. thermite is pretty slow while thermate is much faster.
>> Anonymous
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWgSaBT9hNU
eyewitness accounts of several explosions.
>> Anonymous
I saw the second plane hit on live tv. they had footage of the first one hitting pretty early on.
but hey, dont let it get in the way of you getting trolled hard.
>> Anonymous
I'm sorry, but why do you all give a shit? You don't need this to prove how crooked the US government has, and always will be.
>> Anonymous
>>1248838
agreed

Also I love how these fags watch the alex jones bullshit religiously, even though he's the biggest bullshitter I've ever seen. They think what they are getting is the truth, when really he's getting money, and people are getting anti-propaganda. I've seen people changed because of Alex Jones and his bullshit brigade. I don't like the government, they do stupid, dumb, and bad things.

However, they did not do 9/11.
People like Alex Jones like tying in the bible, secret devil societies, guilds that rule the world, the Bush family being reptilian from the center of the Earth.

I mean, seriously. Come on.... Seriously.
Seriously you guys.
>> Anonymous
>>1248844
I guess the mass media doesn't get as much money then, eh.
>> Bitches don't know about my physics Anonymous
http://www.implosionworld.com/news.htm#1
http://www.implosionworld.com/Article-WTC%20STUDY%208-06%20w%20clarif%20as%20of%209-8-06%20.pdf

Seriously, read the fucking PDF. All your shit about "explosions", "thermite", "Building 7", ...

It's in there, from a demolition expert's point-of-view.

Also, remember, this is the early Bush administration, you know, the one that leaked practically every secret it had? I seriously doubt they could have kept any "conspiracy" secret when they couldn't keep anything else secret.
>> Anonymous
Unlike the clueless faggots in this thread I wont pretend I know much about statics and construction science. But I have a commmon sense and it tells me that a story with that many "first ime ever's" and "unlucky sets of events" must be bullshit
>> Anonymous
ITT: obamatards
>> Anonymous
>>1248853

>>leaked practically every secret it had

What leaks? You're kidding. Cheneys safe? His bunker? His "Mai seecrut documents" labeling system? WTF are you nattering on about leaks, shithead?

>>http://www.implosionworld.com/Article-WTC%20STUDY%208-06%20w%20clarif%20as%20of%209-8-06%20.
pdf

Most of what people talk about concerning the explosions is what people were saying about building 7, not the twin towers. What those "experts" got wrong is other peoples arguments. They didn't admit to "pulling" building 7 until -AFTER- the insurance claim was out of court, and that's criminal.

Your psyops skills are lacking.
>> Anonymous
If anyone ever wanted to know what fail really is: Read this thread.
>> Anonymous
>>1248853


Hey, faggot! What leaks? Examples are good, links aren't necessary. Come on. What leaks. Like the ones from all the White House press secretaries?(hint: those aren't leaks.).


>>1248883

Fail is never defined by people like you. Your 4chan skillz are lacking.
>> Anonymous
>>1248900
4chan... skillz... so sorry. i forgot how to reply to posts. ::ahem::

holy fuck! sauce now! don't be a newfag give sauce! oldfag is old. moar! fail. gb2gaia. furfag.

that should send this thread on the true path of 4chanery.
>> Anonymous
>>1248867
what other 757/building related incidents have you heard of? please do tell.
>> Anonymous
NEWS FLASH: It didn't fall in a perfect, controlled demolition way. It heavily damaged all the buildings around it. If you stood next to a controlled demolition, you'd come out SAFE AND DUSTY.
>> Anonymous
>>1248913
Your news flash is weak.
>> Anonymous
     File :-(, x)
>>1248900
Take it easy, man.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Bush_administration_leaks

>>Most of what people talk about concerning the explosions is what people were saying about building 7, not the twin towers.
(from the pdf)
ASSERTION #7
"WTC 7 was intentionally 'pulled down' with explosives. No airplane hit it, and the building owner himself was quoted as saying he made a decision to 'pull it'."
PROTECT COMMENT: This scenario is extremely unlikely for many reasons.

>>Fail is never defined by people like you. Your 4chan skillz are lacking.
NO U?
>> Anonymous
>>1248907
No, it only shows that even in the company of people and family, you are isolated and lonely.
>> Anonymous
>>1248929
>>"WTC 7 was intentionally 'pulled down' with explosives. No airplane hit it, and the building owner himself was quoted as saying he made a decision to 'pull it'."

You didn't read:

>>1248881
>>They didn't admit to "pulling" building 7 until -AFTER- the insurance claim was out of court,
>> Anonymous
>>1248913
>>If you stood next to a controlled demolition, you'd come out SAFE AND DUSTY.

Prove it. Stand next to one. 10 feet should be good>
>> Anonymous
the dipshits that say the towers fell in a "controlled demolition" are retarded as fuck.

Physics at that scale don't work the same as when you throw a little plastic plane at a cereal box you fucking idiots
>> Anonymous
why is this dumb ass thread still being bumped?
>> Anonymous
http://zeitgeistmovie.com/main.htm
>> Anonymous
lmao retards are always retards
I N E R T I A
not dominos lulz
the end.
>> Anonymous
>>1248942

Building 7 did. Which was not admitted to until after the insurance claim was settled. But you can't be bothered to read the fucking thread, can you? Now, go fist yourself in the ass.
>> Anonymous
>>1248935
You know... I took the trouble of actually going to and reading that website where your claim comes from. Will you please return the favor by reading assertion #7 from the PDF that I linked to?

>>They didn't admit to "pulling" building 7 until -AFTER- the insurance claim was out of court,
It's explained in Assertion #7.

>>until -AFTER- the insurance claim was out of court,
Huh?
>>Most of what people talk about concerning the explosions is what people were saying about building 7,
Isn't this thread about the supposed "explosions" and not about the legal and financial wrangling that occurred later? If WTC7 collapsed on its own due to damage, fires, etc., then what does it matter what else happened? Silverstein could've dressed up as Moses and claimed God told him, "Raise your staff; stretch your hand over WTC7 and split it." and it wouldn't have changed how WTC7 collapsed.

/r/ Silverstein dressed up as Moses stretching a dick-shaped staff over the Red Sea
>> Anonymous
rothschild needed a new building for his empire
>> Anonymous
>>1248972

>>and it wouldn't have changed how WTC7 collapsed.


But, you see, IT FUCKING DID, NUMBNUTS.

>>It's explained in Assertion #7.


No, pulling the building is explained, not the decision to act like he didn't. Stop acting like a virgin.
>> Anonymous
>>1248972

I guess you didn''t see where he admitted to usind demolitions to drop building 7 IN A RECORDED INTERVIEW. God damn it!
>> Anonymous
Would everyone stop regurgitating what someone else has told them and do some fucking research into this thing. Some REAL research from scientific sources, not conspiracy or "9/11 truth" websites.
>> Anonymous
>>1248276
>>...that no plane hit this building

No, a plane didnt hit the building, but several tons of burning debris did.
>> Anonymous
     File :-(, x)
say what?
>> Anonymous
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

better and more entertaining source
>> Anonymous
>>1249003
>>No, a plane didnt hit the building, but several tons of burning debris did.<<

There is no footage of any "tons of burning debris" hitting the building.
>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
no footage of your brain either
>> Anonymous
ALIENS BUILD IT

[img]http://www.procrastin.fr/blog/images/water%20air/total-recall%20(s).jpg[/img]
>> Anonymous
>>1249027
Wow...
>> Anonymous
>>1249002

No-one sane wants to touch it because some faggot started using the word "troofer", and now the real scientists avoid it like talking about religion or politics in a bar. The only people that will are given the wrong arguments, or are shills. Your point is fucked, and so are the chances for unbiased research on both sides of the argument.
>> Anonymous
"Troofer"

^The real reason the 9/11 debate will never stop.

Good fucking job, psyops. You successfully made it impossible for people to drop a conspiracy. Again. You people must be fucking impaired.

Thinktanks are bullshit artists. How about another "gay bomb", faggots.
>> Anonymous
Go look at a loss control report you fucking homos. New York codes allow for a 4-hour burn time on any surface considered to be a "fire-wall". WTC 7 had thousands of gallons of heating oil stored for use in backup generation of the enormous edp centers located there. Piece of hot metal from the main collapses sets off one of these fucking fire-hazards and that shiat burned for much longer than the standard 4-hour rating on the building components..

It is rather elementary actually, shame yall dont seem to have that much of an education.
>> Anonymous
>>1248276
Lol Amerikkka invented a new name for anarchy. Its called democracy now.

FUCKING awesome
>> Anonymous
aw come on people, 9/11 happened in 2001, now it's 2008, FUCKING OLD!
>> Anonymous
>>1249061

Too bad the fucking owner admitted to using explosives to bring down 7 on tape, faggot.
>> Anonymous
>>1249090

why did they have explosives there ready to go on the same day?
>> Anonymous
>>1249091
um... I never thought of that...
>> Anonymous
>>1249091

Because the average American has a shitload of unneeded firearms and explosives just lying around their house or place of business.

Sadly, that was not sarcasm.
>> Anonymous
I love how there are videos of mock-up buildings in desert towns built 60 years ago and used for atomic bomb testing have better structural integrity than modern skyscrapers. But hey, those mock-up buildings are only being subjected to atomic blasts... thank God they didn't hit them with airplanes!
>> Anonymous
>>1249091
simple, they didn't
>> Anonymous
Stop yelling guys! Your killing my boner!

rule 34 on twin towers fucking WTC7 from behind in the parking garage!
>> Anonymous
http://www.cracked.com/article_15740_was-911-inside-job.html
>> Anonymous
>>1248283
Oh really? How many controlled demolitions and uncontrolled demolitions of structures have you overseen?

Damage to the base of any structure should it happen to occur the right way can bring a building down. It isn't a tree, it's a four sided structure made out of steel and concrete.

The World Trade Center could not have been an inside job, because the impotent government could never pull it off. All they do is fail. Besides, if they did...and they killed 3000 americans, do you think the truth guys would still be alive?
>> Anonymous
>>1249090


"Pulling" is a reference to the abandonment of rescue efforts in a structure due to the fact that it is deemed unsafe for people inside. I equate your shoddy interpretation to the recent news articles about the lawmaker saying he would rip raped kids apart ;)

Have you asked yourself in your infinite wisdom why the architects of this conspiracy set up their initial command post in building 7 and then had to flee for their fucking lives when it got out of control?
>> Anonymous
The american government couldnt even cover up Watergate...HOW THE HELL COULD THEY PULL OFF 9/11 WITHOUT ANYONE KNOWING?!?!?!?
>> Anonymous
>>1249136

An atomic blast is a gust of hot air and not a soda-can full of fuel that attacks a structure from the inside.
>> Mystery Mustache Man (MMM)
www.zeitgeist.com

watch it and stop arguing like mental retards...
>> Anonymous
http://conspiracycentral.net:6969/index.html

bunch of good torrents there, check it out
>> Anonymous
>>1249231
Its not that noone knows, its that most people dont want to belive it. NY has tons of people who think its the government that did it. But what can you do if most people dont want to acknowledge the evidence?
>> Mystery Mustache Man (MMM)
>>1249287

Let them and the smart ones battle it out on a 4chan board...
>> Anonymous
>>1249300
Winner
>> Anonymous
>>1249300

Sooner or later people will belive it. Just not yet it seems. Guess people needs to lose absolutly everything for them to want to get off their fat asses.
>> Mystery Mustache Man (MMM)
>>1249313

Dunno if anyone else has noticed, but the US is on its path to downfall:
- all the hurricane and flood ravaged states are desolate
- the population count is on its knees because of the war
- economy, health is going down the drains
- politics (more like dictatorship) is a joke with all the suits behind the curtains
- the "land of freedom" is no more...
>> Mystery Mustache Man (MMM)
>>1249313

oh before i forget to mention it, the only way to change the population's opinion is to target the youngest generation because their opinions will form the new; as it stands changing the opinions of the elders is quite a feat since it is nearly impossible; a comparable situation would be technology whereas the youngest generations adapt with best ease while the eldest does not.
>> Anonymous
>>1249329


And people wonder why it is the young folks who support Obama..
>> dkaksl
>>1249329
The younger generations are all apple and wii and shit. They don't know shit about technology. I believe people who grew up in the 90's are going to be the most technologically able.
>> Anonymous
     File :-(, x)
Haha Truthers make me laugh. Worse than furries.

GTFO my house
>> Anonymous
>>1249323

I hope you're not an american, because i'd be embarrased. Feel free to leave our country try living some place devoid of "suits" that you say run our country. Like Cuba, or Iran, or North Korea.
>> Anonymous
>>1249386
and they are more gullible
>> Anonymous
WTF? Does /b/ redirect to /gif/ now? Sage this shit.
>> Mystery Mustache Man (MMM)
>>1249402

ha! living in one of the most hated country in the world, go ahead, be embarrassed, you deserved to be. And i would love to live in cuba, at least their government takes care of the people; and do lunge at me with fox news-riddled propaganda

just so you know, those "suits" running your country have taken away pretty much all your rights as a human being
>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
     File :-(, x)
>>1249445
I'm free enough to have this
>> Anonymous
>>1249445
Im not allowed to do what i want without being bothered, so long as it doesnt infringe on the rights of others?

Cause i could have sworn i could do that.

Im not one of those idiots saying every other country DOESNT let you do that, but saying the men in suits have taken them away is ignorant.
>> Anonymous
lol
>> Anonymous
>>1249091
>>1249191
>>1249228


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-7La15C15E

This is the FUCKING OWNED SAYING THEY MADE THE DECISION TO "PULL" THE BUILDING IN AN INTERVIEW. The interview was AFTER the court case for the insurance settlement. It was on the DISCOVERY CHANNEL. You fags all remember that .pdf you read? LIES. The newscasts where they said demolitions WERE NOT used to bring down building 7? LIES. Got it?

I SUPPOSE THIS IS SOME "TROOFER" SHIT TOO, RIGHT? Oh wait, it can't be. The owner was saying it on TV, and you can trust teh TV, it's your only friend. But why did it lie to you the first time?

RETARDS.
>> Anonymous
>>1248528
holy crap newfag ALART
>> Anonymous
>>1249533

Troofer all teh way

They were trying to contain fires, they couldnt do it.. Silverstein says the loss of life already has been terrible so just get the fuck out, the property aint worth it..

Ask yourself why a bunch of firefighters would ask permission to leave a building that was on fire if they knew explosives were inside.. Dumbass.
>> Anonymous
>>1249697


Why even have that conversation with the fire department to begin with if he just wanted to demolish the building?
>> Anonymous
your being lied to america
>> Mystery Mustache Man (MMM)
Bump so that the special olympics may resume!
>> Anonymous
You're all wrong. I was fappin' it to 4Chan and hadn't blown a nut in months. All of a sudden, kapow!

Down went the towers as my flaming sperm of doom flooded them.

Now go to bed, kiddies.