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Daddy The Father !!rRI6De1BbN8
Anyone got more anime fight gifs?
>> Anonymous
lol that fight was short and stupidly one-sided.
>> Daddy The Father !!rRI6De1BbN8
>>1060151

Agreed. It was the best looking one in the entire arc, though--not that it means much. :/
>> Anonymous
shit was so cash
but seriously wtf is this one episode to one chapter shit. maybe 2 but they could fit way more into one. i believe death note fit 2-3 chapters in one episode. i would rather the fillers lasted longer than have this shit.
>> Anonymous
the next ichigo v. grimmjow better be fucking awesome.
>> Anonymous
>>1060157
animation-wise it was win. i would have liked a better fight tho.

also: id like to know how to get my hand into someone's chestplate like that.
>> Anonymous
>>1060166

Breastbone, he put his hand through his breastbone.
>> Anonymous
>>1060166
a couple pounds of pressure into that one spot?
>> Anonymous
>>1060160

One chapter one episode is going to get pretty fucking rough soon. The upcoming chapters are almost completely bereft of meaningful dialog. Just fight scenes, "He's so strong", posturing, etc, but not even much of that. Several chapters are ten pages of fight scene and one spoken line of dialog.
>> Anonymous
>>1060183
they could have fit so much more into this one. they spent nearly 10 minutes with that introduction shit that may as well reexplain soul society and then they talk about how much over 9000 their power levels are for the next 10.
>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
what program do you use to make gifs out of video files? image ready?
>> Anonymous
>>1060196
gee thanks for wasting 3 minutes of my life on something ive seen plus newb hack spam.
>> Anonymous
>>1060183
i'd honestly rather see episodes with fight scenes than FUCKING recaps of SS arc. rukia fight was brutal (OH I KANT FIGHT HIM CUZ HE LOKZ LEIK GUY I <3ED) and full of recappage.
>> Daddy The Father !!rRI6De1BbN8
>>1060189

Thankfully, it's better than Naruto, which is basically just the second half most weeks. But the recapping is still bullshit, I agree.

Remember back when the episodes were almost entirely new footage at a reasonable pace? I don't get why that trend has died off all of a sudden.
>> Anonymous
>>1060216
they should have stopped bleach after the SS arc.
>> Anonymous
>>1060216
its because the manga is only up to about 312 translated. the anime just aired 271. the anime get produced much faster so over time they would be at the same spot which would result in rurouni kenshin 2.0. if they did the standard 2-3 chapter per episode they would cash up in a matter of months. this is why we have 10 minute introduction/recaps that go back an entire arch and why they insert fillers like the underground hallow layer in hueco mundo. they are stalling for time. same with naruto.
>> Anonymous
>>1060223
non-weaboo (but have seen several animes) guy here.

explain reference to kenshin?
>> Anonymous
>>1060227
kenshin anime started to equal the release of the manga so it went into fillers. fans lost interest and it got canceled prematurely which is why the anime and manga split after burned nigger guy (cant remember his name)
>> Anonymous
>>1060216
>>1060223

There really is nothing with which to fill these episodes. Not only do they put huge recaps in every episode, but they're having to stretch for the fight scenes (lots of internal monologue, flash back mostly), and they're still running out of time. It takes like 30 seconds to read most of the last fifty Bleach manga chapters.
>> Daddy The Father !!rRI6De1BbN8
>>1060219

Yeah, definitely.

All the potential the series started with after Aizen left has vanished, along with most of Kubo's writing ability. He started making shit up as he went along after that. Togashi, his idol, did the same with Yu Yu Hakusho after the Dark Tournament--you'd think Kubo would learn from that and plan ahead, given how derivative Bleach is, but he clearly hasn't.

Pierrot is doing what they can with Kubo's work, but his meandering plotting and lightweight chapters have their hands tied. So I can't blame them for all the resultant fail--though the filler arcs show they aren't that good either.
>> Anonymous
>>1060228

Same thing happened to InuYasha, to the dismay of fangirls everywhere.
>> Anonymous
>>1060232
bountarcftl. really the SS arc was very very good and i hadn't been that interested in anime in a long time. then 5923942394 episodes later when it finally got back to where the SS arc left off i was (and still am) unimpressed.
>> Anonymous
>>1060232

They've even been slipping filler arcs in there at every opening, and they're still catching up at a remarkable rate.
>> Anonymous
>>1060235

and my brother, who still reads the manga, but due to the continuing ridiculousness of it (he'll send me a page every once in awhile) i think he's gonna stop soon. he continues looking for CLOSURE.
>> Daddy The Father !!rRI6De1BbN8
>>1060235

I stopped following Inuyasha when I realized the story was never going end, and didn't have to improve, because it was too profitable for it's own good. After hearing about how it ended, I'm glad I bowed out early.

>>1060240

Yeah, they have, and all of them have been terrible. I mean, come one--Yumichika as a pastry chef? A whole month of following some uninspired Grand Fisher clone and generic little kids? I got sick of that kind of shit in Kindergarten, when I saw it in Power Rangers. :/

They should just take a break or something after the Grimmjow fight. I know some other series tried that and got canceled later, but seeing how the manga is still so popular I doubt that'll be a problem this time.
>> Anonymous
>>1060235
that and i think they didnt want 10k episode of a series with no intention of ending. they didnt even bother giving inuyasha a good ending. just discontinued, or so i believe. correct me if im wrong.
>> Anonymous
>>1060260

I download the new scanlation every once in a blue moon, and apparently Naraku is still around? It will never end.
>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
>>1060261
i don't think inuyasha ever ended?
>> Anonymous
One sided fights are cool. Like that first time Grimmjow showed up and kicked what's his face's ass.
>> Anonymous
>>1060279
thats why hes my favorite espada. all others are shit regardless of number ranking.
>> Anonymous
>>1060296
lol i was so waiting for him to walk in on inoue getting beat up and just fucking kill those other girls. though im guessing aizen himself will kill em.
>> Anonymous
>>1060297
he killed on of them but inoue healed her. aizen probably kills them. but then again, no body dies in bleach. im sure the ex espada will come back and be like:
ex-espada: lol we were just waiting in the dark letz help you defeat aizen hurr durr
executioners: urahara helped us blah blah, secret plan blah blah, we predicted blah blah, just as planned. hurr.
then they all feast on the chocolate rainbow andl ive happily ever after.
i can see where this is going but it wont be epic aside from good fight scenes.
>>1060268
this shit is awesome. is it all fighting or is the only one in the entire series?
>> Anonymous
>>1060268
Great Cleave ftw
>> Daddy The Father !!rRI6De1BbN8
>>1060297

Oh, he will. And it'll be lots of fun, in a Hellsing kind of way.

>>1060307

The Privaron/Ex-Espada are completely fucking useless. Ichigo could've beaten them with no mask, and he sucks. They were only thrown in to show off Chad and Ishida's new powers, so I don't want to see them again--but I wouldn't be surprised if we did. :/
>> Anonymous
>>1060268
i dunno why anime thinks that once people receive MASSIVE lacerations they instantly freeze, wait until afew other people receive similar wounds, and then all at once go BLEGHHHHH.
>> Daddy The Father !!rRI6De1BbN8
>>1060314

At least they died once they got wounds like that. In Bleach, people just ignore them or laugh them off--in part because no one aims for vitals half the time.
>> Anonymous
>>1060307
It was probably the best of the little spot-action scenes in the series. The animation style was a little strange. They mixed traditional 2D anime with 3DCG at seemingly random times.

The story was good up until about ep 19-20 and then it went in an unexpected direction. No spoilers, but if you watch it I'm sure you'll see what I mean. Some good "lol" comedy, but for the most part an action/drama series.

Nothing extraordinary, but overall:
Utawarerumono gets a B-

It's worth watching at least once, like I said last night.
>> Anonymous
>>1060317
no one, i repeat, no one dies in bleach. they are wounded to near death and then revived due to the wonders of the modern gauze. and now with inoue's new found powers i can guarantee we will see more than one cell style resurrection. there is already one with the dike looking girl that came to beat her up.
>> Anonymous
>>1060317
yea lol when i first discovered bleach and was watching the SS arc i was very impressed that characters were actually DYING (like when aizen 'died'). when it turned out he was alive i was like 'oh ok they're doin the classic anime thing' but then he nearly cuts in HALF that one girl and white-haired kid-captain (forgot the name) so i'm back to saying FUCK YEAAA and then ok i guess getting cut in half isn't fatal cuz they both survive? =[
>> Anonymous
>>1060322
bandages heal EVERYTHING. it's the golden rule of all anime.
>> Anonymous
>>1060324
see
>>1060322
>> Anonymous
>>1060329
doc i think i have rectal warts.
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no problem let me wrap that up for you.
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gee thanks i feel great now :D
>> Daddy The Father !!rRI6De1BbN8
>>1060322

Oh, I know. That's been established for years. It still bothers me, though, especially because of Orihime's newfound godhood, which ruined her character for me. At least she still has those tits...

>>1060324

Hinamori should definitely have died. Hell, everyone Aizen fought before leaving--Renji, Hitsugaya, Ichigo--should've died, too. He did give all of them life-threatening injuries. Ichigo was only held together by his spine after Aizen was through with him, and only got treated 10 minutes later. Not that Orihime couldn't just resurrect him of course.

*sigh* Anyone know of any shonen series that's consistently good from start to finish? I need something new to watch/read.
>> Anonymous
>>1060337
I JUST GOT A 4 INCH WIDE BLADE SHOVED THROUGH MY CHEST!!

here have some bandages :3
>> Anonymous
>>1060341
resurrect? you speak of things in the manga, which i have not read =\
>> Daddy The Father !!rRI6De1BbN8
>>1060346

You'll see what I mean in a few weeks.
>> Anonymous
>>1060346
its not new, aizen explained in the same episode grimmjow was reinstated and did he bad ass cero on lupy or whatever his name was. her power isnt healing or shield. its rejection of phenomena. he wants her power to reactivate the jewel thing. if you are disintegrated she can restore you to normal. this is why grimmjow has his arm and number back. expect cell games in bleach.
>> Anonymous
>>1060349
oh that, yeah.
>hey ive been dead for 2 hours and i ran out of bandages.
>no problem i remembered my hax.

more like a few months the way things are going. they tend to skip airing on some weeks to catch up.
>> Anonymous
Bleach was actually good in the first two seasons. Then they started with that Bount shit and.... oh god what the fuck. I thought it couldn't get any worse. And then it actually did get better! But now... what the hell. They should really stop milking it.
>> Daddy The Father !!rRI6De1BbN8
>>1060364

Watch. People will start saying "Are they still in Hueco Hundo?" before this is through.
>> Anonymous
Say, this bandage concept isn't new. Anyone that used to play Ultima Online knows that all you need to bring somebody back to life is have proper knowledge of healing and basic human anatomy, and use bandages on their noncorporeal spirit. The body doesn't even have to be nearby.
>> Daddy The Father !!rRI6De1BbN8
>>1060370

...Mundo, not Hundo. *facepalm*
>> Anonymous
>>1060369
speaking of milking. i was channel surfing earlier and came across pokemon. had a little chuckle for the memories and then realized that there's like none of the original voice actors, animation style, or characters (other than ash, whose voice is someone else).
>> Anonymous
>>1060378
and they changed the team rocket motto. if your going to be repetitive at least keep it consistent to what was relatively good.
it died to me a long time ago. all that is left are good memories of being 8 and trading my lunch Christmas and birthday money for worthless cards...that i still have to this day.
>> Anonymous
>>1060394
i still have some cards but i was mostly into the gameboy games. i still have a hat from a tournament i went to heh.
>> Anonymous
If you want filler, you want Naruto. No one is more famous for it than them, I think. Literally 90 episodes between the time Naruto leaves and comes back for Part 2
>> Anonymous
>>1060412
thats about right. nearly 2 years worth.
>> Anonymous
The Bleach manga hasn't really slowed down in forever. The longest it slowed down for was a chapter, of Mayuri being a broken anti-Jesus.

I'm actually enjoying it, and hating whatever the fuck it is the anime is doing to it..especially their saying of shit that isn't true, being completely non-canon, and changing of characters for no fucking reason.
>> Anonymous
>>1060429
this
those dolls could have stayed their asses in the filler. completely ruined some of the fights for me. naruto was good about keeping fillers seperate from cannon material.
>> Anonymous
>>1060262
series caught up w/ the manga, so they stopped making episodes, and it's pretty damn clear that they're not going to complete the series since they stopped making episodes like...2-3 years ago
>> Anonymous
>>1060314
cause you're a fucking idiot, that's why.
>> Anonymous
>>1060441
now that's just un-called-for aggression =[
>> Anonymous
>>1060433
and some of the naruto filler actually furthured character development, like Hinata for one.
>> Anonymous
>>1060433
>naruto was good
Stopped listening.
>> Anonymous
>>1060454
your a faggot. it was good for fillers not hitting on the main series. go suck more cocks.
>> Anonymous
one of these recent bleach episodes (the subbed ones online) needs some Falcon Punch gifs made out of it.
>> Daddy The Father !!rRI6De1BbN8
Anyone else up to date on the Bleach manga, too?

I HATED Kenpachi's kendo bullshit. Two hands? Why is it that he can do that when everyone else can't? And why didn't Noritora just do the same thing?

The only replies I've gotten to those questions on forums are "OMG KEN IS A BEAST HE CAN DO ANYTHING I WANNA SUCK HIS COCK DRY!!!1!1". It'd be one thing if people tried arguing for it with logic, but that just pissed me off even more.
>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
>>1060509
scuse me ur FACE seems to be getting in the way of my FISTS
>> Daddy The Father !!rRI6De1BbN8
>>1060509

Arrancar Hyakuretsu-ken FTW.
>> Anonymous
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>>1060484
Maybe because the author just wants Kenpachi to be the fucking tank in the series. Just think about it: every anime has a 'tank' that beats the shit out of everyone until HE FUCKING DIES OR GETS INJURED BADLY ENOUGH TO LEAVE THE SERIES! He'll leave and Ichigo will take his place. Gif related... shows the tanks for both of the animes.
>> Anonymous
>>1060509
Haha, what kind of retard just sits there with his arms by his sides as some blue-haired douchebag pelts him in the face endlessly. He doesn't even back away or fall down.
>> Anonymous
>>1060321
don't waste time on the spin off anime. Play the game. The translation shows up on /t/ every so often.
>> Anonymous
>>1060484
First of all it is better to use 2 hands as this method utilizes the muscles and force of the entire body. Secondly, everyone just uses their own style to fight, Ken included. Lastly Noittra, was using many hands to wield many scythes. Plus he embodies the typical arrogant bad guy who thinks he's better than everyone else.

Oh, also, every hero has to have a trump card. They just ran out of awesome OP shit to do, so they gave Kenpachi common fucking swordplay sense.
>> Anonymous
>>1060484
I'm sorry, but for once, a band of raging fanboy cockholsters are correct. Kenpachi can do whatever the fuck he wants, whenever the fuck he wants. The only thing he can't do is say no to Yachiru.
>> Anonymous
>>1060589
He also can't dance. Seen it, not pleased!

And he can forget about making it to Hollywood! Simon ain't having it!
>> Daddy The Father !!rRI6De1BbN8
>>1060534

As someone pointed out on another forum, Kenpachi collapsed after taking WAY less damage against Ichigo, and could've easily taken the fight had he used kendo there. So his win on Noritora makes his draw with Ichigo retarded, because that means one of two things:

A) he was leagues stronger the entire time, and lost because of recklessness, or

B) he was actually on par with Ichigo then, but Kubo made him way stronger here to make the fight the way he wanted.

Both cases are crap IMO.

>>1060577

The timing is the root of my problem with it. Kubo decided to use fighting theory NOW, 300 chapters into the series, when he barely touched on it at all when the Shinigami were fighting each other in the SS Arc. Many of them switched between one and two handed attacks with no power increase, so Ken being able to do it all of a sudden makes no sense.

Plus, Nori could've easily used one scythe with all six hands himself. I'm sure that's why Kubo made Ken stronger than Grimmjow out of the blue--that way, he could one shot Nori before he got the chance to try anything. But, again, if he was that strong to begin with, he should've destroyed Ichigo like it was nothing. That's what I hated about it.
>> Anonymous
>>1060612
The thing about Bleach is, you gotta take a lot of things on faith, not logic. Yeah, none of that shit makes sense as we all know. But everyone has to get stronger in some way for the next arc. Look at DBZ... what are we up to, super saiyan five million?

I'd rather see one solid, complete arc, than several stories strung together on flimsy premises.

This is the biggest problem with anime. The producers or whoever think "Hey, this is a hit! Let's milk it for all it's worth." Not, "Let's end it with style and get a fresh new project going."

Anyone disagree?
>> Daddy The Father !!rRI6De1BbN8
>>1060643

Well, it doesn't have to be nonsensical. If the mythology behind everything was well thought out and consistent, it would be fine. But most of the time, you see the writers throw in random shit to keep plot moving somehow, without thinking it out much or trying anything new. Bleach is a prime example of that.

And milking for profit is the number one killer of quality in anime and manga. I fully agree with that. There are tons of popular series that start out with potential, and end up running on fumes because the companies won't let them end. That's the main thing I hate about the genres.
>> Anonymous
>>1060660
IF it is well thought out, which is rarely. The only thing is if the anime is based off of a continuing manga, you have to discount the filler. Bleach was flimsy even without that, though.
Naruto has a reasonably well-connected storyline, IMO. The transitions between the arcs are not made up on the spot, and everything seems to be moving in the same direction. It just seems as if they are taking too long to get there. Maybe that's just me wanting to know what happens next, but if they don't end it with the Akatsuki arc, I'm going to hurt someone.
>> Anonymous
>>1060268
What's the sauce on this?
It looks familiar somehow.
>> Anonymous
>>1060695
utawarerumono

see>>1060321
>> Anonymous
Thanks Anon.
>> Anonymous
Please, something they've ALWAYS done on Bleach is having everyone be actually close to equal power, more then you might initially realize.

People bitched about Ichigo getting so insanely better so quick, but look at his opponents. Even fucking IKKAKU turned out to be Bankai level, and he still go fucked up.

Kenpachi WAS that strong, or close to it, when he fought Ichigo. I don't get this idea that Noritora is/was somehow super stronger then captain level. Who did he defeat? A beat up Ichigo?

Hell how did ANY of the Espada come off as being that much better then your average captain? Until recently we haven't even had a full on Captain vs Espada fight, yet people somehow assumed they were inherently stronger.
>> Anonymous
>>1060378
>>1060394
>>1060403

Virgins on my /gif/?

Its more likely than you think.
>> Anonymous
>>1060753
makes no sense unfortunately
>> Anonymous
>>1060757

Dumb-asses who can't figure it out on my /gif/?

Its more likely than you think.
>> Anonymous
>>1060760
no, it just truly doesn't make sense.
i applaud your attempt though, it was very suave and clever.
>> Anonymous
>>1060725
It's not that they get stronger. It's the nature of fighting and anime that they will evolve. The fact that characters gain power for no apparent reason other than that it was convenient bothers me.

Also, no one ever dies in Bleach, as was previously stated. Sure, most animes preserve their characters. But chars in thos animes aren't getting sword wounds shoulder to waist and living. Not just living, but continuing to fight just as hard.

Most fantasy writers have that problem. They respect the sanctity of life too much. If Hinamori and Hitsugaya had died (like they fucking should have with being cut in two and all), it would have lent real weight to Aizen's character and the plot in general. So what happened? Did he hold back? Does he just suck at aiming? You can't take a show seriously under those circumstances.

Wall of text crits 4chan...
>> Anonymous
>>1060770
>sword wounds shoulder to waist

see: kenshin (violent version)
>> Anonymous
>>1060774
I did see it and I have the same problem there. Like I said, the sanctity of life prevents me from believing there is any real consequence to losing the fight. Obviously everyone is going to live, it's just a matter of what happens in between.
>> Anonymous
>>1060790

what problem? fuckloads of people died, culminating in the awesome shoulder to hip death of tomoe (i think that was her name).
>> Anonymous
>>1060612
>A) he was leagues stronger the entire time, and lost because of recklessness
You got it right. Hell, in the show, the remark is made that if it wasn't for the mask in Ichigo's clothing, he would of been cut clean in half. Ichigo won with some luck and circumstances. Sorta like real life.
>> Anonymous
>>1060826
sorry, when you said kenshin, I didn't make the leap to prequel kenshin.

Yeah, that mini-series did the deed well. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a gore fiend. I just think that if you are going to make a series about violence and death... make it about violece and death, and not sparring with sharp toys and pheonix downs
>> Anonymous
>>1060612
hollow mask saved Ichigo's ass from Kenpachi's final blow, otherwise, Ichigo would be dead.

there is a shit ton of characters in Bleach, they're not going to show EVERYONE training and improving =\
>> Anonymous
It's sad; through milking, every moderately watchable anime is turned into redundant stories with little animation talent. Then again, not too many animes have exceptionally good animated artwork.

I'm assuming this is because of absurd time constraints and ease of use. It's probably expensive (at least in the eyes of those who control it) attempt to make things look as good as they could be.
C'est la vie.
>> Anonymous
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>> Daddy The Father !!rRI6De1BbN8
>>1060831

But that still doesn't explain how he beat Nori with that much damage, after succumbing to less injury against Ichigo. Even putting all that other stuff aside, it doesn't make sense.

>>1060725

We got that idea of strength because Grimmjow and Ulquiorra were screwing around with captain level opponents on Earth. And I think it’s safe to assume that Ichigo, who fought evenly with Byakuya before running out of stamina, is captain class, since the whole “Bankai breaking his bones” problem wasn’t an issue once he left SS. Plus, he went from not doing shit without the mask to carving chunks out of GJ with it.

So I don’t think it’s fair to say it only provides a little boost, as someone else said—or that Ichigo’s fights count for nothing relative to the Captains. Hell, two of the captains in HM now are the exact same ones he fought. Zaraki beating someone stronger than GJ with no new powers, after losing to Ichigo before we knew of Vizards or Bankai, is bullshit.

>>1060770

That convenience bothers me, too, as does the death thing.

Aizen’s rampage is a perfect example. Seeing as he was made out to be this ruthless, heartless monster, leaving a few corpses behind would’ve made sense—especially since Hitsugaya and Momo are really popular characters. But a common theme in long-running series is that popularity is more important than dramatic weight, especially when it comes to character deaths, so I guess we should’ve expected them to live in hindsight. :/

If no one on Earth’s side dies in the Winter War, I won’t be too surprised.
>> Anonymous
>>1061326
but how much stronger than Grimmy? since he's only 1 rank higher. Though there is lack of consistency or however you spell it, I think Captain experience can be taken into consideration.
>> Anonymous
Bleach is made of bullshit, I still dont understand why some espada are stronger than Captains.
>> Anonymous
Kenpachi beat Tousen and would defeat the fox guy, so that means that some of the espada could beat Tousen or even Gin??
>> Anonymous
dude Kenpachi would fucking roll like almost all of those bitch espada twats and i want to know why ichigo has to be a pussy twat all the time
>> Anonymous
everyone is wrong, people did die in Bleach, when the espada first came to earth, that one big guy sucked a bunch of peoples souls out, hence, they died.
>> Daddy The Father !!rRI6De1BbN8
>>1061367

We mean important characters, not sacrificial stand-ins. They're the ones who get ripped to pieces and survive all the time.
>> Anonymous
i hate shows like bleach

you've got characters like ichigo who are fags but win anyway because of "determination"

and you've got badass characters like kenpachi who would easily waste anyone he fights yet loses to the aforementioned little bitches.

So my question is, why not just make the main character bad ass? You think we like "rooting" for the underdog? It pisses me off when they "greatest" character gets his ass kicked constantly except when it really matters. Fucking gay.
>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
>>1061869
Ichigo wins because 1. he is the son of a bad ass soul reaper and 2. he has the powers of both a soul reaper and a hollow.

also based on the new chapter of bleach, had Zaraki used two hands to wield his sword, Ichigo wouldn't have stood a chance
>> Anonymous
>>1061869
Actually it's because Kenpachi holds back too damn much. Pride goeth before the fall, etc, etc, etc.
>> Daddy The Father !!rRI6De1BbN8
>>1061869

You're shit out of luck looking for that in Shonen series. You should try Berserk or Hellsing instead--there's nothing faggoty about either series.
>> Anonymous
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does this count?
>> Anonymous
Part of the problem people are having is that Ichigo started this arc weaker than he was in Soul Society, because he was so conflicted and terrified of his Hollow self. Even though the mask took him above his abilities in Soul Society, his base level entering Hueco Mundo was still lower than Ichigo v Byakuya, due to his intense and incomplete vaizard training.

Additionally, the fact that he won against Byakuya doesn't mean he was stronger. Byakuya walked away from that fight, Ichigo didn't. He won the argument RE: Rukia more than he won the actual fight, though there's no doubt he did real damage. As for Kenpachi, look at his performence against those two captains after his Ichigo fight. It's pretty clear he was using enough power with Ichigo for the fight to be good, which is all the crazy bastard cares about.
>> Anonymous
>>1061884
Failed use of saying. Zaraki Kenpachi does not fight proudly, he limits himself to make the fight more entertaining for him.
>> Anonymous
>>1061901

Also,while Ichigo has alot of power available to him, he doesn't really understand it, or it's use, in the way that someone experienced and trained would. So while he was at an amazing peak fighting Byakuya, due to his passion for saving Rukia, he can't just call that up any time he wants. It seems like that power resurrfaced during the Grimm fight.
>> Anonymous
>>1061900
what anime is this from?