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Anonymous
+105kg Olympic Weightlifters.

Would /fit/ say these men are unhealthy?
>> Anonymous
Well having a high bodyfat % can't be too healthy. They are strong though.
>> Anonymous
>>279852
absolutley not
>> Anonymous
that's a woman.
>> Anonymous
unhealthy by stupid bodyfat % standards?
yes
>> Anonymous
>>279859
You're kidding right
>> Anonymous
>>279859
That's Matthias Steiner.
>> Anonymous
They're not fat, they're just really fucking big without being cut like Ronnie Coleman or any other pro bodybuilder.
>> Anonymous
look at the women bodybuilders..you can't tell a difference
>> Anonymous
i would say they probably are deconditioned and have a heavy burden on their hearts from all the extra weight they carry around.

strong as fuck though
>> Anonymous
>>279894
>>279901

DEERRRP DERRRP DERRRP
>> Anonymous
>>279902

ok faggot. when you weigh that much your heart has to work that much harder to keep your body oxygenated. dont give me lip

drop down and give me 20
>> Anonymous
>>279908
protip: lots of "fat" people have good blood pressure
>> Anonymous
Yes they are unhealty. The ammount of food they consume puts a lot of stress on their organs.
Their high bodyfat raises risks of diseases.
The way they train is extremely stressfull on the body.
Living on the very limit of what the human body is capable of, every day, is NOT healthy.
>> Anonymous
>>279908
>>279924

DERRP DERRP DERRP
>> Anonymous
>>280108
do you have anything else to add?
>> sasuke
>>280185
I have to agree with Anonymous, DERP DERP DERP.
First, we have to ask: But, what is being HEALTHY?
"Health is a state of complete physical, mental and social well-being and not merely the absence of disease or infirmity." Physical fitness is good bodily health, and is the result of regular exercise, proper diet and nutrition, and proper rest for physical recovery. I can't say much about their mental health, but they seem to be objective-driven, wich is something constructive.

So in my opinion, and in all objectivity, they are healthy derp derp derp.
>> Anonymous
Goock.
>> Anonymous
Well, they are in really good shape,
so I would say yes
>> Anonymous
For +105 kg weightlifters, maybe.

But lower classes aren't fat, and the media tends to only give exposure to the heaviest weight class (and therefore fattest).
>> Anonymous
i love how anything over 7% bodyfat is considered unhealthy in this board. Anyways, olympic lifters are unhealthy for the same reasons a lot of other olympic athletes are not healthy. Their goal is not to be healthy, it is to perform as best as they can. Different types of training (and the different results they produce) have different effects on the health of the individual.
>> Anonymous
these guys can work all day, everyday. they are fitter than the joe fuckheads on this board. yeah, they carry extra weight. they all carry that weight on a body conditioned to 8-10 hours of intense activitity a day.
>> Anonymous
>>280420
being strong does not equal healthy.
What good will all that strength be if you need new knees at 40?
Lifting 200 kg all the time is certainly not a good idea if you love your joints.
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They are probably more healthy than the average person, but they really do grind down their joints faster.
>> Anonymous
>>280108
>>280185
I lol'd heartily.
>> Anonymous
>>280476
>>being strong does not equal healthy.

fatty steiner would out-work you any day of the week.

>>What good will all that strength be if you need new knees at 40?

lowest rates of knee injuries of any olympic athletes. less than say, soccer for example. but you probably think that's healthier because you are a worthless person and should be ashamed. now gtfo.
>> Anonymous
>>279852
ROFL!
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the whole joint argument is only valid for people who dont take care of themselves. id be willing to bet the percentage of wightlifters with joint probs ar far less than the general public. im a competive powerlifter, and at 23 in the army i see many more "average" people fall victim to muscle and joint injuries than fellow lifters.
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Why so serious?
>> Anonymous
>>280668
I'm glad he got gold.
>> Anonymous
this is the only true sport in the olympics, and in the world, IMO.

OLY LIFTERS FTW!
>> Anonymous
>>280476
Lifters hardly ever go near their max in training, stupid. Also, their joints thicken over time. As was said before, they have a very low injury rate compared to other sports. You're just talking out of your ass, because I'm sure you don't know anyone over 40 that was an olympic weightlifter. Everyone I've met is much healthier than average, with a much higher quality of life than their peers. My lifting coach is 61 and still lifts regularly. The people who have the most knee problems are sedentary office workers who are obese and have to handle their weight on untrained knees.
>> Anonymous
>>280714
I like how 4chan always seems to be full of 23 yo people arguing that joint injuries are a myth. I don't see people saying this shit anywhere else. At my gym and on other websites.. and myself personally. I run into lots of people who are big/fit/fast whatever but are older and they will commonly say stuff like "Yeah I wish I trained a little less aggressively when I was young" or "oh yeah I'm in here all the time but I keep it pretty light anymore, I'm getting old", I'm always pissing my friends off because I am (now) very insistent on taking 15 - 20 minutes to warm up and stretch.

You guys don't understand that your injuries don't even have to start at the gym. http://mynameislaughter.blogspot.com/2008/06/pro-baseball-pillow-injury.html

Read this.. little shit can mess you up, I've gotten injuries from turning a screwdriver.. I felt just a tiny tingle for a few seconds.. almost like I'd just barely hit my funny bone. I almost forgot about it, I think maybe I lifted the next day, and in the morning my wrist was totally useless.. it was OOC for months!!
>> Anonymous
>>280734
Ok, that has very little to do with my post. I didn't say injuries were a myth, just very uncommon compared to other sports. This is a known fact, not just some shit I'm making up. If you don't believe me, look it up. I know you can get injuries from "any little thing". Yeah, I hear the same shit you mentioned from "lifters". You don't know their full story. Most people don't perform exercises correctly and don't warm up. I will acknowledge that you are much more prone to injury and stress to the joints lifting that way, and you're very smart for taking the time to warm up. However, when I see every guy in the gym quarter squatting 4 wheels just to say that they squat that, or just plain lifting more than they could handle, it's obvious to me why there are some people today claiming that lifting has fucked them up. However, I don't believe that progressive lifting with good form will fuck up your knees when you're older.
>> Anonymous
>>280745
Sorry I didn't really intend to reference your post.. well not yours specifically.

>>279852
Well these guys are typically going to do whatever it takes to win. But you and I can be smart and listen to our bodies, sure we may have problems later on that are directly the result of exercise, I guess that it's better to say, that and enjoy the benefits your whole life than have health problems later on that are related to being sedentary.. at least you looked and felt good for it all.
>> Anonymous
Not all of these lifters are overweight. The Russian lifter Chigishev was damn slim... he looked maybe 10% bf at most.

These guys have good joint strength and health, training properly and progressivley and they will enjoy good strength and flexibility well into their old age.

Lifting only messes around with you if you do it wrong. Provided you do it right, you'll suffer far less injuries than other sports players. Its probably one of the least injury prone events going.