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fit yet you cant do better... Anonymous
Anyone else in good shape, but fucks ugly/fat girls since they can't get hot girls due to social failure?

I got lucky and have a very handsome face. Had girls flirting with me when I was terribly underweight (Before skinny became hot so it was bad back then) got into shape, thought it was the problem they lost interest. Nope etc.... Shit for game. Can't flirt, boring, etc... Standard 4channer. Had braces and acne as a kid so i never developed social skills during the age you were supposed to. So i am behind the rest. Hot girls approached me and flirted with me a few times, but i awkward silence failed it every time.

But I always had an attractive face, and now my body isn't bad. Medium-slim size wise, very good shape condition wise. I know /fit/ thinks any body that is not beefy fitness model or body builder is horrible, and shit, and worthless. But luckily, that isn't the case in real life at all.


I learned, that the problem was my conversation skills at about 18 years old. Tried fixing, but gave up. too hard. I instead went to online chat rooms and craigslist and found avergage/slightly ugly or fat women that jumped on the chance to fuck. I found a few IRL too by calling them pretty and then asking for sex. Alot got pissed and thought I was using them for sex (true) but quite a few jumped on the chance since i was better than what they were use to.

My friends think im a pathetic asshole for doing this instead of working on my game. But fuck them, a pussy is a pussy.
>> Anonymous
....... copypasta? what does anon think?
>> HelpFag
...What?
>> Anonymous
>>206788
Anon tries not to think, less he accidentally divides by zero.
>> Anonymous
>>206788
>>206793
k
>> Anonymous
probably copypasta but I'll bite.

I'm not in the greatest shape ever but I can and have gotten good looking girls, my problem is that when I'm really interested in a girl I become a weird combination of a drooling puppy and a detached asshole which is really hit or miss.
>> Anonymous
i'm in pretty good shape, and people tell me im a cute/handsome guy. i was fat/ugly through the whole highschool development phase so now in college I have problems with my "game". i've had some pretty hot girls hit on me(made out with a few) but i'm still pretty fail unfortunately. i dont see any way of fixing my game sadly.
>> Anonymous
>>206811
Being socially retarded is way harder for a guy.
>> Anonymous
>>206819
I live 5 minutes away from a bar. I'd have them come over and then have them leave.
>> Anonymous
Yup my boys, i guess this is the fate of many fitfags here on 4chan, i was fat and shy when people developed their social skills => Social failure
>> Anonymous
It's not what you say, it's how you say it. Confidence motherfucker. Luckily a few glasses of wine give me that. I'm total fail while sober, though.
>> Anonymous
Well craigslist will work. If a hot girl is willing to drive over and not chat on the phone first.

I did that a few times. They just want to fuck usually and don't care anyways.

But girls IRL do.
>> Anonymous
If anon knows any empty irc channels, maybe we can meet, chat & practice?
>> Anonymous
>>206857
Not all of us are ghey.
>> Anonymous
>>206861
And that's why you're forever going to be socially retarded if all you think about is trying to talk to just girls to build up your social skills.
>> Anonymous
>>206870
:3
>> Anonymous
I used to really stress over the fact that no girls would kiss me, untill I used the Skins method of 'go 2 lower than what you are'
so 7's go for 5's etc.
it worked VERY well, and it also improved my confidences so now i'm going for the 8s and 9s :)
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>> Anonymous
let a girl who has the patience to like you for who you are approach you. the rest are just dumb whores no need to socialize at their level if you can't or aren't comfortable to do so.
>> Anonymous
>>206880
read a book, ask any expert, ask any regular person who's ever tried - just attempting to do so whether fail or success boosts confidence tremendously. don't tell people NOT to do it.
>> Anonymous
>>206883
Confidence just allows you to say what's on your mind with out seeming timid.

What's on your mind can still be lame, and boring and uninteresting.
>> Anonymous
>>206870
chatting online won't do shit for our IRL conversation skills. i'm certain all of us can talk online through a fucking computer
>> Anonymous
>>206886
well you're naive, have an ego, or truly truly don't have any social skills at all to base those claims off of jack fucking shit. go back to /v/
>> Anonymous
>>206884
Ever heard women can sense confidence? People haven't been saying that for hundreds of years for just nothing.
>> Anonymous
>Ever heard women can sense confidence? People haven't been saying that for hundreds of years for just nothing.

No, they really can not. It's just some recent trend to say it so you seem like a pimp.

Guess why pick up artists focus on material and vocal inflection more than "confidence?"

Because confidence is just to get you in the door with out seeming like a loser. You can have all the confidence in the world, but if you cannot carry a conversation, or have really shitty and awkward jokes it will fail.
>> Anonymous
im in decent shape and a number of girls have said im good looking but i have bacne so that kills my confidence completely. it sucks because its a hidden flaw...and in my mind i know it will come up eventually. so i dont even try anymore. =/
>> Anonymous
>>206934
You gotta be kidding. Are you really stupid enough to think it's that important?
>> Anonymous
>>206941

well, it is. its disgusting. just ask any anon or pretty girl =/
>> Anonymous
>>206941
How would you feel about a girl with bacne?
>> Anonymous
>>206934
backne is like.. nothing, dude.

also

>>206821

Oh christ, I'm you ;.;
>> Anonymous
>>206932

Confidence, like most words used by women in the context of relationships, is bullshit created to dress over the unpleasant facts.

A guy can be extremely confident, yet not a social person, and he's fucked. Men who constantly ask questions and flirt do well, because they set up a scenario in which the girl can most easily babble about herself for hours. Attention for sex. Old transaction, even older than money for sex.
>> Anonymous
Meh, makes me better to know there are other people like this.

I was incredibly confident before puberty, then I got hit by acne, greasy hair and had braces and my confidence shattered, before that I actually went out with the hottest girl in the school.

Now I'm past acne and the likes, and am decently attractive and in good shape, but I have such shitty confidence that I tend to self doubt myself out of relationships and I've slowly let every relationship I have die away due to flickering confidence and not being willing to let people get close to me.

I have few friends and am so self concious that I don't want other people who I don't know yet to find that out, so I don't let them get close enough to. Vicious cycle of sorts =/
>> Anonymous
>>206974
Anon will be your friend. :)
>> Anonymous
>am so self concious that I don't want other people who I don't know yet to find that out, so I don't let them get close enough to.

And this is me.
>> Anonymous
>>206777
hey OP post a pic if you think you're so good lookin
>> Anonymous
>>206980
It's fucking horrible.

I'm pretty sure I come across as not liking people when I shy away from letting them become friends with me, even come across as arrogant at times. But the truth is I just fear that people will judge me for it and find me boring if they get to know me. Damned if I know a solution, but right now I'm just planning on starting a new life somewhere else so I can build from the ground up with an excuse.
>> Anonymous
>>206987
You shouldn't care that much about what other people think of you and I know it's easier said than done.
>> Anonymous
One of my eyelids hangs much lower than the other, so I have my brow permanently furrowed to rectify this. This combined with my natural disinclination to smile makes me look constantly annoyed. Is there any way to rectify this?
>> Anonymous
i don't think it's too late for a person to developed their social skills. i've only recently come into my own the past two years. i didnt use to be in great shape, so i had to develop what i thought were good social skills that got me average looking women. but then i got in great shape, started making money, went through a few failed relationships and now i have a nominal understanding of the opposite sex. every woman i've been with over the past few years has been more attractive and had a better personality than the last.

youve got half the game won with the looks. don't give up on your personality - its actually more powerful than looks anyway. that and money.
>> Anonymous
>>206968


I'm one of those charismatic chappies who happens to be socially incapable. I have no problem dancing my way around conversation with immense tact and finesse... but I have zero confidence when it comes to getting outside and meeting new people (initiating interaction).

I'm that fairly handsome guy who is quiet 99% of the time, but on the off chance that someone breaks through the, off putting, shield of nervousness I omit, they find out that I'm very cheeky/funny/charming.

I'm just too much of a coward to take my charisma and direct it at pretty girls. I pretty much have to wait for them to talk to me before I can interact with them.

Thankfully a year at college has relaxed my body-language so much that pretty girls strike up conversation with me, without prompt, on a regular basis... this has had a snowball effect and gradually, saying "hi" to girls has become a lot closer to feeling normal.

So now I've noticed that as my conifdence has grown, I've started become a much more approachable guy and as a result, I'm having alot more success and attention from decent looking girls.

Its only taken a few years of confusion and failure.
>> Anonymous
I was fat and shy, then I lost weight. I met a girl (more like she met me xD). Now we have wild sex.

Social status changes as soon as you make the change.
>> Anonymous
>>207000
>shield of nervousness I omit
if you omitted the shield, i believe you wouldnt have this problem
>> Anonymous
People abuse the word confidence to fit any thing they want it to mean. They use it in place of funny, interesting, insightful, clever, etc...

When in reality ALL IT MEANS is sure of yourself.

Anyone else annoyed when people do this?
>> Anonymous
>>207097
Which posts are you referring to?
>> Anonymous
>>207087

LOL.

*emit*

It is late. Fuck you :P
>> sage
>>206974
>before that I actually went out with the hottest girl in the school.

Gratz on finding a hot 5th or 6th grader.


OP I've got sort of the same thing going on, I can't really initiate a conversation/flirting with a girl unless she does first (which happens because I'm attractive). But if I know the girl well it's really easy, just don't worry about what they think of you and try to be funny. They should respect that at least, and chances are you will be funny.