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Anonymous
lol, you know you are digging in the dumpster when you have to use a t-nation forum post to stick it to you silly Rippletoe fanboys

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding_strength/fro
nt_squats_14

pay attent about half way down and beyond

<<yeah, lets use low-bar parallel squats to shift the focus to the posterior chain, instead of a squat with a full, movement specific range of motion that fully emphasizes the explosive power of the quads... which only contract against a maximal load... FOUR times in the clean and jerk

good call there rippetoe! Man, if only he trained the top USA weightlifters, we'd be back on the podium in every weight class!

Has he ever trained an Olympic caliber lifter in his life? Has he ever actually tried Olympic lifting regularly while deadlifting and doing heavy parallel low-bar squats? It's called a heavy Snatch pull. Entire upper back, lower back, grip, hamstrings, quads, traps, abs, hips- movement specific. Enjoy.

I'm just so sick of this Rippetoe posterior chain BS being rehashed over and over like it's actually relevant to weightlifting. >>

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>> Anonymous
not in the olympics and i dont give a shit.
>> Anonymous
sage for linking to your own post
>> Anonymous
>>348768
actually no,

had a good laf tho, knowing how butt hurt /fit/ gets when Rip gets questioned
>> Anonymous
Um, Rippetoe isn't training FUCKING MOVEMENT SPECIFIC WEIGHT, you shitstain. He's training for systemic gains. His experience tells him that the full squat is better for such.

And,

...HOLY SHIT, HE'S ALREADY GOT POWER CLEANS IN HIS PROGRAM! My FUCKING MIND IS BLOWN.
>> Anonymous
Rippetoe doesn't claim to be teaching Olympic-style lifters. Lol, your post is so full of idiotic rage, it's laughable. Ever since he left the NSCA because they're turning into the ACSM they've been going around the internet trying to slander his good name. You sir, have drank the Kool-Aid.
>> Anonymous
>>348809
This.

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>> Anonymous
(sigh)

i realize that the masses are too stupid to even see the point.

so i have to yet again hand hold and spell it out.

RIP has a hard on for that ONE type of low bar, half back squat. as if its the ONLY way, and all those who train the 'hi bar full back squat' are stupid (this includes the Oly lifters of every other country, including americans at teh OTC, who also think Rip is silly)

he sells it to all of you, and you take it hook line and sinker.

to those who 'fight' RIP, he justifies why you all are '1/2 goodmorning squatting' by explaining it aligns with the 1st pull and then lon kilgore draws cool pictures showing how the 1/2 squat looks biomechanically similar to the DL/Clean (1st pull). altho those aspects are never going to be a sticking point (ie. your clean isnt going to get 'stuck' on the 1st pull unless you are doing 30+kg over your max...)

TL DR believing that your quarter to half squatting in Rip fashion is "best" and superior to any other form of squat makes you look like a stupid asshole

RIP was just looking to attach his name to something so he could sell it (like Pavel w/KBs, or <insert pseudo mma guy here> w/BW only). and made up bullshit reasoning that will only work on the uninformed to spin a biomechanically unsound lift (spine compression vs. spine shear) as the key to all fitness goals. that and milk.


no one even realizes there are other ways.
>> Anonymous
>>348823
Rippetoe does full squatz. wtf are you talking about?

You obviously don't know what you're talking about.
>> Anonymous
>>348809
i guess this is why he has embraced (shudder) crossfit faggotrees. they are the only ones left who would still associate with him, endless groups of has beens, and koolaid? the "Coach" and his gestapo at crossfit.com invented the drink.

i am glad any remotely legitmate S+C groups have left him like a $3 hooker on a street corner.

interesting comment about the NCSA and ASCM. completely untrue, but sounds nice.

i have my cscs and am working on my clinical hours for the ACSM exerc physio cert in cardiac rehab. so i have the background in both organizations to make that call. do you?
>> Anonymous
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>>348835
rong

this is a full squat
>> Anonymous
>>348856
k wats a rippetoe squat?
>> Anonymous
>>348861
dont u have google?
>> Anonymous
Try posting this rant faggotry on Rippetoe's Q&A forum (forgot the forum name, someone link?). If you're right, then you have nothing to be afraid of
>> Anonymous
>>348863

N/m, it's http://www.strengthmill.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=36 Go for it
>> Anonymous
>http://rapidshare.com/files/104381018/starting.strength.rar

"The full squat is the preferred lower body exercise...."
Pg. 17

Try reading something before shooting off with your brainwashed nonsense.
>> Anonymous
>>348856

High bar squat with long femurs
>> Anonymous
>>348867
BUT his interpretation is a 1/2 squat, low bar, NOT like pisarenko's squat in the picture

but yes, a FULL squat is preferred

Try reading something before shooting off with your brainwashed nonsense
>> Anonymous
I've been reading every single page of the Starting Strength chapter on squats over and over for the last month and can practically recite it from memory and I still have no fucking idea what the OP is talking about besides that he has some beef with Rippetoe
>> Anonymous
>>348878
This.
>> Anonymous
>>348876

BUT nothing. Rippetoe advocates the hips going below the patellas, therefore it is not a "half" bar squat. It is a fully developed squat. Everyone cannot literally touch their ass to the grass in a low bar, and for that matter, a high bar squat, as they do not have the long femurs that someone like Pissarenko does. I don't know where you learned your terminology, but you're fucking stupid, willfully ignorant, or just trolling for lulz.
>> Anonymous
>>348878

Rip wouldn't stick it up cscs's ass, no matter how much he begged. That's why he's trolling /fit/
>> Anonymous
>>348906
lulz

since when did LONG femurs become an asset in squatting?

take a seat

next!
>> Anonymous
>>348913

I've decided that you can't possibly be this stupid. Troll!

8/10
>> Anonymous
>>348931
actually, you are teh stupid shit and the OP is right. long femurs make things harder for squat, shorter legs are desirable with a longer torso.