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Anonymous
Haaaaaalp

I'm so tired. I slept 8 hours, went to bed at 10 pm last night, got up, sip of coffee and *THUNK* I could barely stay awake

I remember a time when I was 16 or so when I could go through a day without always feeling like I needed to sleep. Now I'm tired all the time.

I weight train several times a week and also do cardio. I eat alot but am not fat.

What can I do to not be so tired?
>> Anonymous
MORE SQUATZ
>> Anonymous
Eat more, drink more, eat for nutrition. Do a bit of light exercise in the morning to get you pumped, do whatever gets you pumped mentally in the morning. TAKE A COLD SHOWER! That always wakes me up when I need to wake up.
>> Anonymous
if that it is you in the picture you actually ARE fat.
>> dred !JbMDHMIN82
If you don't have a regulated sleep schedule, going to bed at 10 one night isn't going to give you more energy.
>> Anonymous
>>375761

it's not, pic unrelated
>> Anonymous
what are you eating, anyone can eat a lot, but not everyone eats a lot of good stuff. shitty food makes you feel shitty, good food makes you feel good
>> Anonymous
>>375779
lots of complex carbs like potatoes and oatmeal, chicken, protein shakes, water, low sodium vegetable juice, turkey sandwiches
>> Anonymous
>>375786
from that shit you listed alone i can tell you are having way too many carbs, and there is absolutely no fat in there?

shit over half my diet is fat, my diet is around 60% fats, 25% protein, 15% carbs.

I used to be on a 50% carbs, 30% protein, 20% fats and felt like shit day in and day out. Mega switched it up and felt like a champion.

Eat more nuts, olive oil, fish oil, cheese, greek yogurt, butter, coconut oil anything with a lot of fat
>> Anonymous
>>375756
I WATted at the shirt
>> Anonymous
>>375811
Wow, that's a lot of fat.
>> Anonymous
>>375846
it might seem like it, but it's far healthier way to eat (as long as they are good fats, good omega-6:omega-3 ratios)

our ancestors ate a 50% fat diet and none of them suffered heart disease like we do today. it's been said today that the vast increase in carbs has lead to the heart disease pandemic because of the inflammation it causes.
>> Anonymous
>>375873
Please provide further reading material.
>> Anonymous
http://thepaleodiet.com/faqs/#Fats
>> Anonymous
http://www.thepaleodiet.com/aboutus/profile.shtml
So this is the dude who says the fat thing.
>> Anonymous
goldfish is filled with mono and polyunsaturated fats and no trans fats

eat up
>> Anonymous
>>375918
What's the best thing to feed goldfish before you eat them?
>> Anonymous
I'm having this same problem, and ironically I think the biggest factor is food. When I'm at work I'll often crash cause I'm going for 3-5 hours w/out getting anything in the way of a snack. Eat periodically, and eat healthy.
>> Anonymous
another blog I read that supports fats over carbs (Robb Wolf is big with the crossfit crowd, and a lot of people follow him because most of what he says is true)

If you feel like shit and from what I see you eat mainly carbs, then you need to down the carbs and up the fat. instead of eating potatoes eat walnuts, pecans, macadamia nuts. and if you must eat bread slather it with a lot of healthy grassfed butter
>> Anonymous
>>375987
forgot to post the link

http://robbwolf.com/?p=110
>> Anonymous
another article on fats

http://www.fitnessspotlight.net/2008/08/07/fatsthe-real-story-and-why-you-need-them/
>> Anonymous
>>375873
Yo, Atkins was one of the first to actually dissect and make some assumptions off of a natural diet based on wild game (meat), nuts, and forageable fruits (berries, etc.). That's why his shitty diet got so popular. There was at least one or more studies in the 1950's or earlier about "Native" diets that consisted of a lot of meat and nuts, but practically no cases of heart disease. Lean wild meats, nuts, and forageable foods is the heart healthiest diets you can do.
>> Anonymous
>>375996

i'd be shocked if anyone here knew about nutrition other than the mass media's love of the word no-carb, no-fat, no-whatever.

i read nutrition boards daily, and read nutrition blogs, and read nutrition books. everyone of them has stated if you have no energy with your current diet then something has to change. most people go with the 40% carbs 30% fats 30% protein, i tried that felt like shit for 2 weeks. then I tried to up the carbs, 50% carbs 30% protein 20% fats, i was seriously fatigued beyond belief after less than 4 days.

I started researching more and more, because I wasn't bought into the whole fat thing, since i've been told since age 1 that fats are bad. I was kind of leanient even on the 30% fats, that just sounds crazy, but in reality it's not even close to what i needed. I was in serious caloric macronutrient deprivation, and i didn't even know it because even though i was seriously fatigued, i just thought it was from all the exercise i was doing (I burn on average 4000-5000 calories a week with my training, i've calculated). but serioulsy hitting rock bottom on days, performance hidering, and seriously fatigued all the time, there was only one thing to do and that was to up the fat, A LOT.

it's different for everyone, like i said 60% fats might sound crazy, but i've been on it for about a month and never felt better, performance, energy, and even sleep a lot better.

Just find out what your macronutrient ratios are, and then go from there. I don't know much about protein, but I always kept it below 30%, you don't need as much protein as a lot of people think.

BTW i'm 6'2" 165# 8% BF, eat around 1800-2200 calories a day @ 55-60% fats 25-30% protein 10-15% carbs
>> Anonymous
>>376014
most excellent post.

agreed. it's too easy to repeat what you've read elsewhere as gospel. glad you figured out a diet that works for you, and it's a counterexample to the one-diet-fits-all premise.

myself, I find my body responds wells to vitamin C, a lot of it gives me a mellow calm sleepy buzz. A little reading found that vitamin C metabolism varies wildly from person to person, and it's common for men's bodies to have a large demand for it. But again, that means there are people who don't need much vit C compared to others. Maybe it depends on how much enzymes your DNA says to manufacture? Who knows?
>> Anonymous
the only carbs that I get on a daily basis come from: raw natural honey (about 1 tablespoon a day) steel cut oats (1/4 cup which is around 25g carbs), and vegetables and very very if not no fruit at all and if i do consume fruit it's most likely a lemon or a lime. I love fruits, but recently i've been tapering off of them (except limes and lemons, since they have almost no carbs as well)

I eat a lot of vegetables, but the thing is they carry so little carbs that you could eat a whole head of lettuce and get 10g carbs.
>> Anonymous
Atkins is vindicated yet again.
>> Anonymous
Agreeing with>>376014

Femanon here. Fat is awesome. If I don't get enough fat I'm exhausted and want to go on murder rampages. I'd rather eat a tub of cream cheese than a plain bagel. Also, I'm 110 with a 25" waist before you go calling me a fatty.
>> Anonymous
>>376049

I don't know what adkins says, but a lot of people agree with him. I don't know if he says eat more fats, or just throw away carbs altogether (which I would never agree with because you need carbs because they are a lot easier to convert to energy than fats, even if fat is your prime source of energy). but you don't need a lot of carbs to do that.

I wish i knew more about adkins but a lot of people don't like his diet, which I think was generated by the idea that whole wheat bread = good, a lot of fat = bad, low fat = good. I don't know if adkins says to eat fat or not, but it's upt o you whether you need the fat or not. a lot of the anecdotal evidence i've seen is, a lot of people down ice cream, but avoid bread like the plague or any other high carbs because they know it just isn't for them. but rarely do I see people downing carbs like crazy and passing on any fats, because your body needs fats whether you like it or not.
>> Anonymous
>>376079

Basically its like this: Because an obese person has spent years poisoning their body with excessive carb consumption, on Atkins they're going to cut all carbs out of their diet for the next several months. Only fats and proteins are allowed. There are two problems with the diet though. First is that Atkins thought you can can stay on his diet indefinitely. You can't, carbohydrates are a necessity. The second problem is Americans didn't know the difference about polyunsaturated, monounsaturated, and saturated fats. So when he said eat all the fats you want, most Americans took this to mean eat all the animal fats that they want. That's why the Atkins gets slammed by the American Heart Association. The AHA is a bunch of mongrels though, because they blow the dangers of saturated fat completely out of proportion in comparison to the dangers of excessive carb consumption. It's pretty much their fault that the US is in an obesity crisis right now.

Even though some of his we know better on some things now (ie PUF and MUFs), Atkins was a visionary for his time.
>> Anonymous
>>376112
I guess you could go wrong if you ate too many bad (trans) fats. but rarely do I see trans fats anymore that it's kind of hard to actually find them.

I used to think saturated fats were the plague, but I researched the opposite is true. Coconut oil is almost all saturated fat, but in essence it's very good for you. Monounstaurated fats are also very good for you, the only fat I don't think is very good for you but not very bad for you are polyunsaturated fats. I tend to eat a lot of saturated fats, and monounsaturated fats, i'm not sure how many polyunsaturated fats I eat but it is also probably high.

Another thing I keep a very close eye on is Omega 6:Omega 3 ratio between fats. I take 4 tsp of fish oil a day which is around 5g of Omega 3, and then all the meats I eat are either grassfed beef, buffalo, or free range chicken/chicken eggs and tuna/salmon/sardines. Rarely do I eat meat that I know is bad in Omega 6's.
>> WHOA WHOA WHOA Anonymous
Hold on a second. So I'm a skinny guy and I try to eat things high in carbs. Is this bad nutritionally to do this? I'm gaining weight consistently and slowly, but that's one thing I've really changed. I eat lots of complex carbs.
>> Anonymous
>>376151
>but rarely do I see trans fats anymore that it's kind of hard to actually find them.

It's hard to find them on labels. Doesn't mean you're not eating them.
>> CWheezy !!bJFrM5LONOF
>>376160
Well, do you want to gain weight?
>> Anonymous
>>376182

Exactly. The manufacturers pulled a nasty trick by paying off the FDA, so that if there's less than 0.5 grams of trans fat per serving, then they can mark it zero. Even if a serving contains 0.4 grams. So if a cookie is considered one serving, and you have 2 in one sitting, you're eating 0.8 grams.

>>376151

The way to tell if you're eating something with trans fats is to look at the ingredient list under the nutrition table. If you see the words "partially dehydrogenated" before some kind of oil, than you know that there's trans fat in the product, even if in the table it says 0 grams.
>> Anonymous
>>376202
Well I don't eat anything that processed so there's no worries. All the oils I buy (Olive, Coconut, and Canola) are all unprocessed, unrefined, extra virgin what have you.

I don't know if there's any trans fats in butter, fish oil, grassfed meats, or fish but I extremely doubt it as I believe trans fats are man-made correct?