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Anonymous
Hi /fit/ this is me. I am 23 years old, 5'10 and weight about 230 pounds. I am tired of feeling like the token 'big guy' (re: fat dude) whenever I hang out with my friends. I'm tired of feeling unable to date or even approach girls I am attracted to because of how I look. I don't want to have my heart working overtime to pump blood into my body when i'm 40.

Help me, /fit/? I want to lose weight, but i've never been sure how to go about it. Diets are hard to stick to when I live at home for the moment and the kitchen is always filled with junk food. What should be eaten and what shouldn't be eaten? My overall goal is to get to my natural weight for my height, which I think is like 160 or
so. In the short term I will be happy to drop half that much and get down to about 200 for now. How long can I expect losing this much wait healthily to take, and what should I do to lose it?
>> Anonymous
and oh yeah my nips and navel kind of make a face on my chest i noticed when i took the pic lol
>> Anonymous
You can healthily lose about 1-2 pounds a week, 2-3 if you're exercising heavily. Eat absolutely no refined foods -- only lean meats, fruits, vegetables, whole grains, WATER WATER WATER. Cooking food yourself helps to keep you healthy. Jog, use freeweights, and when you get more in shape try HIIT.

With all this you should lose 30 pounds in approximately five months.
>> Anonymous
at least you can hide stuff in your belly button.
>> Blarge
Good that you want to better yourself but I typically don't eat SUPER healthy but I'm only 14.... I don't know much but I do know that as long as you eat really healthy you can cheat every other month but the real key is exercise you should look into a mountain bike and ride for an hr or however long and when you get home weight lift or whatever..
>> Anonymous
>>180346
P.S. Go throw out all your junk food RIGHT NOW. Or give it to homeless people. Just get it out of your house.
>> Anonymous
>>180338

Don't eat anything fried, don't eat any processed sweets, don't eat any snack foods aside from the occasional couple of crackers with tuna on them, don't drink anything that contains calories (no soda, no juice, no sugared coffee, water only, final destination), don't eat any carb that isn't from fresh produce of whole grain wheat.

DO eat: A lot of fiber, a lot of seafood, a lot of turkey/chicken BREAST (dark meat is more tender and fatty), a lot of low GI fruits (avoid bananas, for example, they're nature's sugar factory), tons of vegetables of any kind that are either steamed or grilled, very slight portions of lean red meat, brown rice, wheat bread, whole wheat pasta, OATMEAL, natural honey, very low sugar cereals like Fiber One, multivitamins.

Portion your meats to no more than eight ounces, preferably closer to four or five ounces. Couple with one serving of a whole grain carb and a vegetable. This is just an example meal.

Do cardio however you want, don't get caught up the people here who will tell you that HIIT is the ONLY option or that walking is not exercise. The only important thing is that you're getting 30 minutes to one hour or cardio a day in combination with your diet.

Make sure you get adequate amounts of ALL of your vitamins and minerals, most especially all of your B vitamins since your body does not have stores of them available, unlike fat soluble vitamins.
>> Anonymous
>>180352

Or develop willpower so his selfish dieting doesn't ruin the enjoyment of food for the rest of his family that BUYS IT ALL IN THE FIRST PLACE.
>> Anonymous
>>180367
Or maybe his family could quit being a bunch of fatasses and start eating healthily.
>> Anonymous
you seem to have a nice frame already, so if you lose a few pounds it will definitely make a difference.
try cutting out bread, first of all.
>> Anonymous
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>>180338
>I'm tired of feeling unable to date or even approach girls I am attracted to because of how I look.

Lower your standards, dipshit.

Either that, or be funny.
Jimmy Kimmel is fatter than you are, and he's fucking Sarah Silverman every night.
>> Anonymous
>>180338
>I live at home

move out you fucking faggot
who cares if you are in shape to get girls or not
as soon as they hear you live with mommy and daddy then will go running away

you are too old for that shit move the fuck out you worthless shit
>> Anonymous
>>180382

That is because Kimmel is rich and therein lies the true answer to your woes anon. Make lots of money and girls won't care how fat you are.
>> Anonymous
>>180382

I thought they got divorced a long time ago.

Also, that's only because he's rich.
>> Anonymous
>>180386

I'd like to but right now I can't find a job that pays well enough for me to live in an apartment on my own. Believe me it is a priority though.

Then again my friend who is both female and attractive says any girl who'd refuse a guy just because he lives with his parents at the moment (at our age, anyways) is a stupid, stuck-up bitch who isn't worthy anyone's time anyways so i'm not overly concerned about that as it relates to girls.
>> Anonymous
>>180382
>>180386

Get back to /b/, retards.
>> Anonymous
>>180386

I find this funny coming from someone who also probably lives at home or is having their parents pay for their college lodging.

Anyone who is under 25 and in college is either living at home or having their parents help pay for college and lodging. Either way, you're still fucking relying on them because it's pretty much impossible to work a full time job to be able to afford everything while you're studying.
>> Anonymous
>>180398
not in college. not living at home. i have a real job and live with my girlfriend, fag. 25 and not in college is too old to be mooching off your parents still.

>>180395
> my friend who is both female and attractive says any girl who'd refuse a guy just because he lives with his parents at the moment (at our age, anyways) is a stupid, stuck-up bitch who isn't worthy anyone's time

you are 25. you are not still in college. if you are living at home you are a pathetic fag. your friend is telling you otherwise because she is your friend but she is full of shit.
>> Anonymous
>>180395
>I can't find a job that pays well enough for me to live in an apartment on my own.

Really? You can't find full-time minimum wage work? Where do you live?
>> Anonymous
>>180405

He's 23 you dipshit, go back to /b/
>> sage sage !ccqXAQxUxI
sage for troll thread
>> Anonymous
>>180411

i am 25 asshole. go fuck yourself. he is still a college grad no excuse to be living at home unless he just graduated this summer.
>> Anonymous
>>180405

So that means you're either working some blue collar shit job that idiots take right out of high school because they think college is worthless, which will result in you getting laid off eventually and having NOTHING to fall back on. Yeah, nice "real job".

On the other hand, if you graduated college, shut the fuck up. If you're going to try to tell anyone who is IN college that they can't rely on their parents, you might as well be telling them drop out altogether. It's not easy to go to college and not accept money or at least groceries and shit from your parents, which equates to the same reliance as still living with them.

The only reason this rages me so bad is that I'm in college and they don't have dorms, so I have to either pay 500 a month for an apartment or live at home and I'm incapable of meeting the demands of nursing school (which requires me to take classes are 3 different campuses as well as hospital clinicals) while working enough to be able to afford an apartment. I can barely afford my own groceries and gas working part time and even working 3-4 hours a day after class is stretching my schedule to its breaking point, and then people like you want to act smug and somehow think I can magically work 8 hours a day and pay for a fucking apartment. I'm sympathetic to people living at home because I know I'm not some kind of shut-in nerd, the circumstances just aren't in my favor, so I know tons of other people are in the same predicament.

Fuck your shit.
>> Anonymous
>>180418

Fuck, you're so stupid. HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE OP BEING 23, NOT YOU.

AND HOW THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW HE IS A COLLEGE GRAD? NOT EVERYONE STARTS COLLEGE AT 18 AND GRADUATES AT 22. THE VAST MAJORITY DON'T EVEN START UNTIL 20.
>> Anonymous
>>180424
Sounds like you should spend some more time complaining on the internet.
>> Anonymous
>>180428

Sounds like you should graduate 10th grade.
>> Anonymous
>>180424

at 23 the op should have graduated already if not then he is just a pathetic fag who can not get his shit together. either way it is 100% guaranteed that meeting a girl at a bar and saying "oh hey baby want to go back to MY MOMMY AND DADDY'S HOUSE and fuck" is a sure-fire way to get yourself NOT LAID because you are a pathetic faggot and girls want men who can provide forthemselves not fags.
>> sage
Shave
>> Anonymous
>>180432

I JUST RAEP DEM HOES. AHAHAAAHAHAHAAH.
>> Anonymous
>>180433

Who the hell shaves their chest hair? Fag.
>> Anonymous
>>180338

The plan:

1. Move out of your house. If you don't have enough money to do this, get a better job and then move out.

2. Learn to cook.

3. Buy healthy food.

4. Lift weights and do cardio regularly. Find a fitness plan that fits you. Don't diet.

5. Wax your creepy uncle bob chest.
>> Anonymous
OP, 23 is pretty old to be living at home. Did you just graduate from college?

At this point instead of dieting/exercise (which can be expensive) you should probably be expending most of your energy on trying to move out of your parents' house.

Do you have friends you could get an apartment or house together with? Adding roommates can make living on your own much more affordable.
>> Anonymous
>>180440
>Lift weights and do cardio regularly. Find a fitness plan that fits you. Don't diet.

Agreed. A harsh diet is just going to lead to rebound weight gain.
OP needs to change the way he eats long-term by learning to cook and eating healthier things.
>> Anonymous
You guys a ridiculous. Body hair is a good thing so long as it's not on your back. Unless you are completely ripped removing all your hair is just going make you look like a big, oversized infant.
>> Anonymous
go to bodybuilding.com
>> Anonymous
>>180462
In my plan the chest wax is after the cardio/weight lifting. No point in waxing if you have a huge gut.
>> Anonymous
>>180438
>Who the hell shaves their chest hair? Fag.

People who don't want to look like fat old men.
It's not just the chest hair, though. OP has fucking SHOULDER HAIR which is fucking revolting and should not be on anyone, ever.
>> Anonymous
>>180469
Go ahead and get the wax now, maybe it will boost your confidence and motivate you.
>> Anonymous
>>180432
Not entirely. What if he's getting a masters, or took the wrong classes the first year. Not everyone starts college at 18 faggot.
>> Anonymous
>>180475

Yeah, some people are so stupid that they have to go to Junior College LOL!
>> Anonymous
>>180477

Junior college isn't any more or less difficult than 4 year college, it just teaches programs that don't require you study so long and usually removes a lot of the shitty fillers that 4 year schools make you grind through (HURR DURR THANKS FOR MAKING ME TAKE UNRELATED ELECTIVES TO HAVE ENOUGH CREDITS TO GRADUATE EVEN THOUGH ILL NEVER USE MY FUCKING POETRY, PHILOSOPHY OR PHOTOGRAPHY KNOWLEDGE WHEN IM A FUCKING MECHANICAL ENGINEER).

At times, I WISH I had attended a community college. As long as you go through an accredited program and get a good GPA, you'll still get a great job. The biggest advantages that junior college has is a vastly more affordable tuition since they usually get a lot of benefits from the government and very convenient class schedules.
>> Anonymous
>>180432

I'm now convinced that you are 16 years old.
>> Anonymous
>>180477

My aunt started off at going to junior college at 24 and she now has a Ph.D in biology.

Doesn't really matter when or where you start. There are plenty of fuckheads who go to college at 18 and end up jobless and fucked over before 30.
>> Anonymous
I'm 5'10'' and I was 230.
Took up martial arts (shaolin kempo and grappling***) started working a 8 hr job bussing tables 5 days a week and dropped down to 170 in like 6 months.
****grappling gets yo ass in shape son!!!
also squatz
>> Anonymous
The guy bitching about OP living with his folks and college and all that shit clearly doesn't know a goddamn thing about the economic state of young adults these days.

He doesn't know, for example, that the four year degree plan is more or less a thing of the past and that on average people take five years to graduate from college these days.

He must also not know that most people have to take out large loans in order to pay for college and that paying these loans back on top of paying rent and all those other things is not the easiest thing in the world for someone fresh out of college trying to live on their own.

He also clearly doesn't know that with the economy what it is and the general lessening of value in college degrees (due to how many people have them) it's actually pretty hard for college graduates to find jobs willing to pay them what they are worth because they usually do not have a whole lot of working experience.

All of these things result in young people today remaining dependent on their parents for far longer than ever before, often at least to 25, which the OP isn't even at yet.

If our resident /b/-tard knew any of the might realize he is the exception to the rule and be less of a dick...or not, who knows.
>> Anonymous
>>180511
I'm in my second year of university and I live on my own. I'm 19 and I've been raised by my single mother and she isn't rich. If I can survive, Op can too.
>> Anonymous
>>180521

Your anecdotal evidence means absolutely jack and shit in the face of national trends.
>> Anonymous
>>180341

Its like :o amirite?
>> Anonymous
OP here guys. Just for the record, I do wax when it is necessary (such as, when I am actually in a relationship) but being that I am not the sort of guy who gets into the situation where he suddenly has to get naked with a girl and has no time to prepare i'm not going to regularly pay $50 or more for the wax when it just grows back in six weeks give or take. I do apologize for inflicting it on all of you, though.

As for the whole living with folks thing, I thank everyone for their concern but i'm planning to be out by the end of this summer, give or take. I do have to pay $400 every month already on college loan and credit card payments so that puts a bit of an additional strain on things which has made moving out a little harder.

Anyways, that's not what I asked for advice on so i'd appreciate it if we just stuck to getting fit and thanks to those who've offered serious advice so far.
>> Anonymous
>>180528
Maybe if amerifags weren't all such consumer whores they would have enough money to move out.
>> Anonymous
>>180528
maybe a national trend of immature young people

i've lived on my own since i was 19, and am now an engineering student. there's more than student loans to get money for college, if you research and look around there's ton's of grants and scholarships anybody can get that you don't have to pay back. i already have a $75,000 a year job lined up that i'll start in 2 years. the only college students unable to find work are dumbass liberal arts faggots who went to bad schools and took easy classes. if you major in classical literature and get 20 credits from women's studies classes, you cant expect any employer to take you seriously.

welcome to the real world where people that work harder get better rewards.
>> Anonymous
>>180338
you look like you're 50
>> Anonymous
>>180433
>>180470
>>180471
fags
>> Anonymous
Women all want wolfmen, deep down inside.

I mean hell, look at Robin Williams.
>> Anonymous
>>180601
i didn't know it was gay to want women to think you're attractive...
>> Anonymous
>>180608

I thought that guy was a super fag.
>> Anonymous
>>180581
You don't have to be an engineering student or have 75 000 a year jobs lined up to move out.
>> Skippy das Buschkänguruh !!MIDnJbhFIVQ
>>180613
He prolly meant Robbie Williams
>> Anonymous
>>180618

I think women stopped wanting him when he went to USA got fat then started releasing really shit music...shake your rudebox.

There is a direct relation of people moving to USA and becoming fat.
>> Anonymous
>>180631
>There is a direct relation of people moving to USA and becoming fat.

the inverse is true too. i went to europe for a month and lost 16 pounds
>> Anonymous
>>180609
it's gay because you are changing yourself to look good for them
that's what women do not men
>> Anonymous
>>i didn't know it was gay to want women to think you're attractive...
>>it's gay because you are changing yourself to look good for them
>>It's gay to want to get women

WAT.
>> Anonymous
I don't know where the fuck you all live but you sure as hell can't move out in California on anything near minimum wage or part time employment.

Every single person I know who's in college or working full time at my age (early 20s) still lives at home except for one guy, and he's dangerously close to being evicted. It has nothing to do with being a consumer whore either, it's just damned expensive.

I saw someone claim it costs them 500 dollars a month for rent a month. I can't even rent a rat infested back room for that much.

As for OP: I look almost exactly like your picture, it's not even funny. 5'10" 230 lbs right now. I've lost 35 so far.
Eat less crap, drink more water, do more physical activity. Find something you like and do it all the time, whatever works for you.
Also start approaching girls even when you don't want to, and start noticing how much easier it is as you lose weight. Its not so much that you look better or thinner, it just gets easier with practice and you'll feel better about yourself as you thin out.

Its been working for me thus far.
>> Anonymous
I am 19.

I live in California and go to college here.

Tell me, how am I supposed to afford $700-800 in rent a month (CHEAP apartment near college here) whole going to school full time and paying for it as well. lets not forget food, and fun, car insurence, gas. I'm not going to work/sleep/study/thats it for the 6 years its going to take to get my BA in Architecture.

I'm going to live with my parents. Fuck you faggots.

work a 40 hour week while going to school full time to barely get by with a enough to eat? I'd fail out of college and be miserable.

Rather join the Marines.
>> Anonymous
>>180802

Yea, and BAs are a dime a dozen now a days, especially in California. The people in this thread who have the ignorant audacity to talk shit about others who do not go to college are obviously out of touch with the real world.
>> Anonymous
this is somewhat relevant to my interests
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>>180338

not sure if you trolling but you got me.

first thing: figure out your BMR (I did this for you, and it is 2232 calories(kcal)). next you calculate your caloric needs for the day via Harris Benedict equation. Harris Benedict Formula

To determine your total daily calorie needs, multiply your BMR by the appropriate activity factor, as follows:

1. If you are sedentary (little or no exercise) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.2
2. If you are lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.375
3. If you are moderatetely active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.55
4. If you are very active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days a week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.725
5. If you are extra active (very hard exercise/sports & physical job or 2x training) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.9

hokay... after you figure out how much food your fat ass needs (be honest, your only cheating yourself if your not), subtract 200-300 calories off of that and start HIIT or standard aerobics with some weight training. eat nutritiously, lots of protein if you work hard and be sparring with teh fats.

protip: dont eat for an hour after HIIT OR AEROBIC workouts. eat within 30 min after weight training.

sauces:
BMR
http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/
Harris Benedict Formula
http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/harris-benedict-equation/
>> Margaret
>>180338
>weight
I stopped reading here. I think a lot of people have this problem. It's weigh, not weight. Choose a verb there.

>>180341
>nips and navel kind of make a face
*nods*

Tell your rents to buy some healthier food. Seriously, it can't be bad to ask, so just go ahead and ask for some lean meat, etc.
>> Anonymous
http://notsocommonsensebody.blogspot.com/