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Fasting:

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Fasting has a reputation as an alternative therapy practiced by chiropractors, nutritionists, and naturopaths. Joel Fuhrman, a family physician in Belle Mead, New Jersey, and author of Fasting—and Eating—for Health: A Medical Doctor's Program for Conquering Disease (St. Martin's Press, 1995), notes, though, that few, if any, doctors study fasting in medical school. And many patients would rather take a pill than do without food, Fuhrman says.

But fasting advocates tout its many health benefits. Fasting, something many people do routinely between dinner and breakfast, gives the body a rest.

Within the first 36-40 hours of an extended fast, Fuhrman says the body switches to a protein-saving metabolism after using up glucose reserves in the liver. During a fast, about 90 percent of the body's glucose comes from fat stores.

But Fuhrman, who has supervised hundreds of patients' fasts for medicinal purposes says,

"We know that the body is unable to rid itself of toxins when we eat a diet low in nutrients," and that applies to most Americans, even those who think they are healthy, he says.
>> Anonymous
"Americans eat 51% of their diet from processed foods and foods low in phytochemicals and antioxidants," he says. "So you see a buildup of waste products in the cells -- AGE, advanced glycation end products -- that build up in cellular tissues and lead to atherosclerosis, aging, diabetes, nerve damage, and the deterioration of organs. This is basic science and physiology every doctor learns in medical school."

In his practice, Fuhrman tells WebMD, he has seen fasting -- combined with improving the diet before and afterward -- eliminate lupus, arthritis and chronic skin conditions like psoriasis and eczema. He says he has also seen fasting heal the digestive tracts of those with ulcerative colitis and Crohn's disease, and lower blood pressure.

"Fasting followed by a vegetarian diet interferes with the immune system's activities, especially if the immune system is overreacting, as it does with ," and other auto-immune diseases, he says. He cites half a dozen studies published in medical journals ranging from the American Journal of Physiology - Endocrinology and Metabolism to the Scandinavian Journal of Rheumatology.

Studies published in The Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences and The Journal of Nutrition in 2003 showed that mice forced to fast every other day, while eating twice the normal amount of food on non-fasting days, had better insulin control, neuronal resistance to injury, and other health indicators than mice fed calorie-restricted diets.

Fasting may yield psychological benefits as well.
>> Anonymous
fasting is for dumbasses.
>> Anonymous
"I use very brief fasting with my patients to help them cope with stress and depression," says Agnese Barolo, a life coach in contemplative practices in New Rochelle, N.Y. "I start them with just a few hours â?? so they learn to say no to food. Itâ??s the first step in taking control of their lives."

Many are so encouraged that they try longer fasts, she says.

"There are hundreds of studies showing that when animals are fed fewer calories they live longer," says Fuhrman.

Studies on animals ranging from earthworms to monkeys have shown that alternating cycles of fasting and very calorie-restricted diets is a reliable way to extend the lifespan.

"The excess calories Americans eat shorten their lives," says Fuhrman.

If you want to live longer, Fuhrman's best advice is to "eat healthy and fast periodically."

The time may come," Fuhrman says, "when not offering this substantially more effective nutritional approach will be considered malpractice."
>> Anonymous
FASTING CURES LUPUS

actually though, it's just putting your body into starvation mode which ups fat storage.
>> Anonymous
>>86220
Prove it.
>> Anonymous
>>86228
It puts your body into starvation mode storing every bit of fat it can find and destroys muscle because of protein needs.
It's for retards.
>> Anonymous
"Within the first 36-40 hours of an extended fast, Fuhrman says the body switches to a protein-saving metabolism after using up glucose reserves in the liver. During a fast, about 90 percent of the body's glucose comes from fat stores."

Learn how to read.
>> Anonymous
>>86235
Learn to find better sources. This guy is an ignorant motherfucker.

Why do I even bother? Go for it, you probably look like shit already, can't get much worse.
>> Anonymous
It does put your body into starvation mode, but once the fast is over you slowly start to eat again and if you've done it right, there should be no weight gain. If anything weight lost or the same.
>> Anonymous
I do intermittant fasting every now and then. I feel more alive and get some of the clearest thinking done when I'm on a fast.
>> Anonymous
>>86239I feel more alive and get some of the clearest thinking done when I'm on a fast.

Grats for sounding like a new age trend faggot.
>> Anonymous
>>86240

I'm pretty big bro, also I'm studying to be a biochemist. I guess science sounds like magic to retards.
>> Anonymous
>>86243
That load of bullshit you spouted certainly has nothing of scientific to it.

Enjoy your scent candles.
>> Anonymous
~http://www.falconblanco.com/health/fasting.htm
>> Anonymous
Healing
During a fast, a metamorphosis occurs. The body undergoes a tearing down and rebuilding of damaged materials. For this reason, fasting is famous for its ability to rejuvenate and give the body a more youthful tone. Why does fasting have such a powerful effect in healing the body? Fasting dissolves diseased cells in a systematic manner, leaving healthy tissue. The result is a thorough cleansing of the tube, membrane and cellular structures. There is a remarkable redistribution of nutrients in the fasting body. It hangs on to precious minerals and vitamins while catabolizing on old tissue, toxins and inferior materials.
>> Anonymous
Animals will naturally fast when they are sick or injured, and when we are ill, our hunger diminishes. If we get out of the way and allow nature to take its course, we will find that we can heal from any problem. Since the dawn of recorded time, in fact since before the word "doctor" came into existence, priests provided sanctuaries where people could go to fast. Whereas modern medical practitioners admit that they have no cures, only drugs that mask the symptoms while causing yet other symptoms to appear.
>> Anonymous
“I had a medical practice for 20 years in NYC, supervised hundreds of long fasts, and I found that the physical healing or weight loss was but a pleasant side effect. What really happened is that the person got in touch with their higher self, their true self, and came to the experience that healing can take place at every level, simply by letting go and allowing Mother Nature to do her work.” – Dr. Rai Casey
>> Anonymous
>>86245
Enjoy your rotting insides.
>> Anonymous
>>86245

Hahah looks like fasting's not the cool thing to do yet. I bet once those t-nation knuckleheads recommend it, you'll be yelling FASTING more often than do HIIT or SQUATZ.
>> Anonymous
>>86250
Bullshit
During a fast, a metamorphosis occurs. The body undergoes a tearing down and rebuilding of gay tendencies. For this reason, fasting is famous for its ability to turn people gay and give the body a more shitty appearance. Why does fasting have such a powerful effect in fagging up the body? Fasting dissolves masculinity in a systematic manner, leaving new age babble. The result is a thorough bullshitting of your mind. There is a remarkable redistribution of faggotry in the fasting body. It hangs on to precious dicks and cocks while acting all gay and shit.
>> Anonymous
>>86254
Enjoy your malnutrition, yanni-listening-fag.
>> Anonymous
>>86258
Prove it. Writing "Lulz, fag, Lulz, gay, lolllolololol!!2122," does not prove your point.
>> Anonymous
>>86260
bullshit like: metamorphosis, true-self, mother nature, etc...
don't prove anything either.
>> Anonymous
>>86259
Same for you.

You people are not giving any real reasons or real sources.
>> Anonymous
ProTip: If you don't know anything about fasting; don't try to educate people who do.

LULZ!24567765432111!!!<--See there is something you understand.
>> Anonymous
>>86218

no
>> Anonymous
after reading this thread and the links i think I am going to try fasting for a couple of days, then see how I feel afterwards.
>> Anonymous
>>86263

A quick PubMed search reveals the following:

Visceral Adipose Tissue Modulates Mammalian Longevity
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18363902?ordinalpos=12&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pub
med_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum
The effects of high-intensity intermittent exercise training on fat loss and fasting insulin levels of young women.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18197184?ordinalpos=8&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubm
ed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

Effect of caloric restriction on nitric oxide production, ACE activity, and blood pressure regulation in rats.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18389998?ordinalpos=8&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubm
ed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum


Calorie restriction improves cardiovascular risk factors via reduction of mitochondrial reactive oxygen species in type II diabetic rats.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17068205?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubm
ed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=4


Note: There are MANY articles to support fasting's health benefits. These were quickly chosen for relevancy.
>> Anonymous
>>86278

Lol someone actually took the time to look up sauces? This shit doesn't happen in /b/, ever.
>> Anonymous
so basically fat people should eat less. well holy fuck.

sage
>> Anonymous
>>86305
We aren't talking about fat people. But um, you know, I think its great you discovered that.

Protip: ITT was about FASTING.
>> Anonymous
>>86311
christ.

the majority of the american population is obese. this means if you talk about 'people' you are talking about 'fat people'.

the american diet is known to be terrible. would you believe, changing the diet has health benefits? fuck, blown away by that one.

fasting causes people to lose weight. did you know that fat people get healthier if they lose weight? jesus christ it's a lion, get in the car.

so in short, fat people should eat less. fasting isn't magic, it's just another way of doing shit that we all know works anyway; change diet and loose weight. holy fucking shit batman. while i am sure this sastifies some need for self-punishment you're gonna have to colour me unimpressed. for the majority of the american population, anything would make notable changes.
>> Anonymous
Was not about losing weight.
Lossing weight is just a bonus.

Was about "Fasting, y/n."

Learn to pick out the theme.
>> Anonymous
>>86333

You're pretty dense. This whole thread completely flew over your head.
>> Anonymous
>>86340
no. i think the real world flew over yours.
>> Anonymous
>>86333

>this means if you talk about 'people' you are talking about 'fat people'.

Leaping lizards! Way to jump to conclusions!
>> Anonymous
>>86350

Work on your trolling skillz
>> Anonymous
>>86354
work on your critical thinking.
>> Anonymous
drink lots of green drinks that are alkaline. wheatgrass or kamut, or some premixed blends at your healthfood store will work. this will pull the acidity out of fat stores or anywhere else it is sitting since it can't be in the bloodstream (bloodstream ph is maintained at 7.2 for the body to carry out biochemical reactions)
>> Anonymous
>>86357

Critical thinking involves focusing on a topic people are discussing, not completely veering off course to whatever you feel like.
>> Anonymous
>>86360

This thread is now about RON PAUL
>> Anonymous
>>86360
think you better work on that reading comprehension too.
>> Anonymous
>>86361

I think Ron Paul should be president because he supports the constitution when none of the other candidates do. He'll restore America to the way it should be.
>> Anonymous
fasting really does benefit your body

the tooth fairy told me
>> Guil
>>86304
Go back there faggot

>ProTip
Learn how to do it.

>so basically fat people should eat less. well holy fuck.
Uh..

>>>86333
>jesus christ it's a lion, get in the car.
Oh wow.

>>86350
Well alright. Trollan confirmed.

So many reasons to sage, not even getting into this failure of a discussion
>> Anonymous
>>86371

EPIC FAIL
>> Anonymous
>"Fasting followed by a vegetarian diet interferes with the immune system's activities, especially if the immune system is overreacting, as it does with ," and other auto-immune diseases, he says.

Sounds like you want to do it within controlled conditions otherwise you open yourself up instead.
>> Anonymous
>>86376
>>86278

Science ended this 'debate' about an hour ago. Fasting improves health. Everyone shut the fuck up and do it.
>> Anonymous
>>86376
well i'm sorry if i've pissed all over the supposed magic of your latest miracle namefag. you're gonna have to forgive me if i can see through all the fluff and determine what is actually going on when people fast. i'll instead remember to say that it's incredible, magical, puts people in touch with their higher selves and is also ancient wisdom. apparently it cures everything. but whatever.
>> Anonymous
>>86391

HAR HAR HAR
science = magic to this fagg
>> Guil
>>86391
I've never fasted in my life, you're just a douchebag. Look at your posts, and process them a bit.
>> Anonymous
>>86394
you fucking moron. if you read my posts i am the guy who is pointing out exactly how un-magical it is. this post,>>86371, is for people like you.

this place constantly amazes me with how dumb it is. fucking hell.

but whatever. i am sick of arguing with the peanut gallery. enjoy starving yourself.
>> Anonymous
>>86406

Dude your brain is so fried, I know it's exam time, but fuck. Get some sleep.
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Hey /fit/. I'm about to start proper weight training and stopping eating junk food from my diet. When I make the transition from junk to healthy will I first feel any crashes or cravings and if so for how long?
>> Anonymous
>>86417
lawl, whoops.
>> Anonymous
I have been fasting for around 6 months. 1-2 times a week, 24 hour fasts in the style of "Eat, Stop Eat". Other types include the "Warrior Diet" or the "Fast 5" type fasting. Works for me. Kudos on OP for trying to educate the ignorant fools on this board. Arthur De Vany advocates fasting and he's fitter than 95% of these fags on this board at 70.
>> Anonymous
All fasting fags are anorexic/bulimic tards that think stop eating is fucking amazing. Go to motherfucking Ethiopia dumbasses!

Fasting is New Age shit and that's why the supporters all use words like "true-self, mother nature, metamorphosis". Go fucking listen to some Enya and die.
>> sage Anonymous
yes. fasting should be about once a week. or something like that. it's not a daily occurrence. thanks for that post op despite the resultant shitstorm.

Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.
Albert Einstein

however sadly there's such a shit proportion I'm saging. hope you post again here. somehow.
>> Anonymous
this is bullshit. fasting is HORRIBLE for your body. it slows down your basal metabolic rate causing you to burn less calories. AND your body tries to preserve fat stores because they are a good source of energy. DONT FAST YOU FATASS, FUCK
>> Anonymous
>>86944

There's this thing called "moderation", you know.
>> Anonymous
Back in the early 70s my father owned a health food store and was a fruititarian(sp?) - ate only fresh fruits and vegetables, and juices he made himself. Used to go on 30 day water fasts. Has pictures of himself afterwards looking like a holocaust victim. He has been a vegitarian to this day, hes 59 and looks early 40s. This could be genetics however as my grandma is 91 and still drives
>> Anonymous
>>86944

Don't make me get science on your ass, I totally pwned magicfag that way.
>> Anonymous
Was not about losing weight.
Lossing weight is just a bonus.

Was about "Fasting, y/n."

Learn to pick out the theme.
>> Anonymous
>>86924
fukken sage for pretentious quote
>> Anonymous
>>87092
You dad is a pussy. This guy only has been eating only sunlight for 11 days.
http://english.pravda.ru/science/mysteries/28-08-2006/84110-sunlight-0

Seriously, people who claimed they are fasting for more than a few days are nuts. And 30 days is wether idiotically dangerous or a lie. No fucking benefits.
>> Anonymous
Did anyone else decide to fast today?
I'm freakin hungry.
>> sage sage
saging fastfags