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Anonymous
So, I want to take the "shortcut" aka Steroids etc.

What would be a good start? How much should I train afterwards to see the effects? How long does it take to see results?
>> Anonymous
So, I want to be an incredibly retarded 14-year-old or just a troll
>> Guil
>>45239
Steroids are for professional bodybuilders who've hit a plateau, have a perfect diet that they see benefits from, have a perfect routine and years of experience to draw from. If you don't have any of that then you shouldn't be doing it, and if you did you'd know or have someone you could ask to teach you/get you some.

Did I mention sage?
>> Anonymous
Unless you can bench two times your bodyweight and squat 2.5 and dead lift the same or more then you don't need steroids yet.

Go home idiot.
>> Anonymous
He didn't say he needed them, he said he wanted them.
>> Anonymous
There are a lot of misconceptions about steroids. They will help everyone who takes them. Doctors prescribe them to people who have muscular weakness.

If you're serious, start with D-Bol, look it up online and find out how to do it and what you need to do with and after it to not get the side effects.

Its expensive and you probably won't work hard enough to get the gains that are possible, but its your money and your body (though the health risks from 'appropriate' steroid use is greatly exaggerated by the media)
>> Guil
>>45246
What he wants is a miracle drug to gain a lot of muscle, but if he has a shit diet and shit workout routine and shit life in general just taking roids isn't going to make his muscles explode and look awesome.
>> Anonymous
Oh fuck, kid.

Go right ahead. Go buy some fucking juice. Misjudge your injection site and spike your sciatic nerve. Get an abcess the size of an orange.

The sooner you die of sepsis, the sooner I'm done with your idiocy. Do it. I want you to.
>> Anonymous
>>45249
The best thing about juicing is that even if you do your homework and have all your ducks in a row, you can still end up buying fake shit. Friend of mine ended up putting on 30lbs of fat in four weeks because the only real shit out of his entire cycle was the methyltestosterone he was taking preworkout.
>> Anonymous
>>45266
lawl
>> Anonymous
Man...

Steroids only keep you from getting fatiqued (pretty much), so you can keep working out. If you're not pushing yourself to the max (and you're not, because you don't have a trainer or aren't one), it's pretty worthless
>> Anonymous
Bluelight, home to the Internet's biggest and best forum about hard drugs, has an excellent steroid forum. I suggest you check it out. They know way more than any 4channers do about this: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/forumdisplay.php?forumid=148&ts=47dc49e8
>> Anonymous
unrelated: scott steiner is my fucking hero
>> Anonymous
I, too, have wondered about this. I'm tired of going to the gym and not seeing any results. I just can't seem to lose my fat, much less build muscle. Will injecting steroids make me ripped?
>> Anonymous
>>45361
What kind of diet do you have. What days you workout what? How long ? What weight/height.
>> Anonymous
>>45361
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>>45376
i agree w/2nd poster, sounds like diet.
>> Anonymous
Steroids, do not try them. I have a good friend of mine who did them. He turned into a beast, had no results whatsoever, and he he said he was so raged he could lift up a car on anger alone. Steroids only fuck you up, don't do it.
>> Anonymous
>>45361

You're not seeing any results because you're doing it wrong.
Lift big. Really big. And eat big, really big.
Google Squats and Milk
>> Anonymous
Unless you are prepared for open heart surgery, don't take them
>> Anonymous
>>46189
steroids arn't for people who want to start making progress, they are for people who have made all the progress they can naturally and now want to take it even further. if you're a fat blob you have not made all the progress you can. Keep trying.
>> Anonymous
drugs are why stallone is 70 years old and looks like a linebacker.
if you can afford them, get them.
they help more than you imagine
>> Anonymous
id say consult your doctor. and have weekly or biweekly checkups. but i dont take roids and all ive heard about them is from the media and if i could commit to working out enough to lose fat then start gaining muscle i would be on them as well.. if they do shrink testes im glad the shaft does all the work.
>> Jd
>>45361
obvious troll is obvious