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Kicking ass or rather protecting my ass from being kicked Anonymous
Anonymous, I need advice: I have a workout and diet routine, but I am interested in supplementing it with self-defense exercises that I can do on my own, without a lot of extra gear (e.g., kata, one-steps, shadow boxing). Seeing that it seems a lot of martial arts is B.S. in that when you get in a real fight, fight or flight overrides most training and all that fancy foot and handwork is out the window and combatants generally end up doing a handful of gross motor movements for blocking and striking.

That being the case, what would anonymous recommend for practice? I want to practice moves that have actual self-defense value and are practical and could care less how fancy or awesome something looks (for example, high kicks that expose your groin). Is there any martial art that is recommended for its realistic value and ability to practiced solo or is it all B.S. It seems 90% if whats shown in the movies reinforces unrealistic views of combat, and even mixed martial arts doesnt allow using everyday objects from your surroundings, dim mak strikes, etc. Also, whats the best way to practice and how should it be integrated into an existing daily/weekly exercise routine (portable exercises that can be done when travelling without equipment are even better yet).

Help a novice brother out. (picture somewhat related)
>> Anonymous
You should look into Krav Maga. Used by Israeli forces for its extremely practical nature. I don't know much about it myself personally, though.
>> Anonymous
Good boxing skills stick with you when the fists fly. When you learn to effectively keep your hands up and good upper body movement, than the average scrub will have a bad day when he takes a swing.
>> Anonymous
shadow box aerobically, and visualize REAL combat situations always when doing so never just punched at the air
>> Anonymous
>>294293
What solo exercises do you recommend: shadowboxing, rope jump, combinations?
>> Anonymous
jailhouse rock/52 kicks: made by convicts for convicts
>> Anonymous
>>294277
yep, kicking people in the balls is the ultimate martial art.

not joking
>> Anonymous
Jab-Cross-Hook combo.
>> Anonymous
krav maga
>> Theodore Roosevelt
Practicing by yourself won't help at all in a fight. You may know how to do a combo or move or something, but you won't know how to apply it to a live moving opponent trying to whoop your ass.

Find a good MMA school and learn, that's my advice.
>> Anonymous
>>294270
The most effect way to take people down is to know where to hit them. Go for places people wouldn't usually expect. The groin, eyes and neck are very vulnerable places. One swift kick to the nads puts any man down and a good jab into the eyes with two fingers will completely put your opponent in shit. A good throat thrust will also bring the toughest of guys to the floor in no time.
>> Anonymous
>>294270
>Seeing that it seems a lot of martial arts is B.S.

I stopped reading there. I'm sorry, there's no help for you.
>> Anonymous
>>294270
the only practice is to take a martial art that includes sparring in their training because otherwise in a fight you'll just freeze up instinctively

also, take wing chun or krav maga if you just wanna quickly learn how to kick ass
>> Anonymous
>>294430
You're right--I'll make certain to practice Miyagi's crane stance 8 hrs day bwhahahaha
They ARE mostly BS--look at MMA---it all comes down to pummeling and grappling, all the fancy shit is just that: shit, like your implication that they arent.
>> Anonymous
>>294430
You go ahead and practice karate from Okinawa: I will use bat from Kmart and Pistol from Glock.
>> Anonymous
>>294430
I bet you like Van Damm M.A. apologist--ever hear of Chuck Zito?--he kicked the SHIT out of Brusselsfag in a NY Scores club, and his discipline was....shit-kicking fu (aka nothing). Most martial arts is indeed BS, OP is correct.
>> Anonymous
>>294270Seeing that it seems a lot of martial arts is B.S. in that when you get in a real fight, fight or flight overrides most training and all that fancy foot and handwork is out the window and combatants generally end up doing a handful of gross motor movements for blocking and striking.

I've been doing various martial arts for 10 years, but since it's all BS I won't bother you with it.

>>294396Find a good MMA school and learn, that's my advice.

lol, good luck.
>> Anonymous
>>294506
a lot != all, you dumb faggot. There's quite a few terrible, useless (for self defense) martial arts out there. Generally, if it's traditional, it has probably devolved into something useless compared to the time when it was created.

TKD is a prime example. History has proven that the origins of taekwondo were effective and proven forms of combat, but in peace times it turned into a competition and demonstration martial art.
>> chocolaterain !idkFAG3w5.
>>294320
AEROBICS BOXING
OH YEAH FEEL THE BURN
>> Anonymous
>>294532a lot != all, you dumb faggot. There's quite a few terrible, useless (for self defense) martial arts out there.

From your original post I can tell you have lots of martial arts and fighting experience. Seeing as how you reference movies as a source of information, I'm sure you are very knowledgeable... I thought I was going somewhere with this sarcasm, but I'm really not.

tl;dr If you don't know anything about the topic don't pretend you do, it makes you come off as a huge cunt.
>> Anonymous
>>294481
>>294490
>>294491
>>294270
HURR HURR
>> Anonymous
SAMBO if you can find it, which really isn't easy outside of the old Soviet countries, but if you can it covers everything.
>> Anonymous
>>294557
That's my first post in this thread. More than one person can think you're wrong, you know.

I know exactly what the fuck I'm talking about, so many martial artists that've failed against Joe Average, traditional martial arts are more prone to this pattern. IRL experience tells me that a month in boxing/kickboxing/wrestling will serve you better than 2-3 months in a lot of traditional martial arts.
>> Anonymous
Gracie Jiu- Jitsu
>> Anonymous
http://www.xtremecouture.tv/
>> Anonymous
>>294588
Boxing and wrestling are traditional martial arts. They're thousands of years old. Karate and its ilk are at best 300 years old. Which ones are more traditional?
>> Anonymous
>>294588I know exactly what the fuck I'm talking about, so many martial artists that've failed against Joe Average

You really don't. Based on what information? The fact that it suits your argument now?

>>294588That's my first post in this thread. More than one person can think you're wrong, you know.

So you knew exactly what the OP meant and felt the need to clarify for him? Touche.
>> Anonymous
>>294605
Sorry, forgot to specify traditional _Asian_ martial arts. Can't think of *too* many european fighting styles, let alone ones that've allowed themselves to become something outrageously impractical overtime.

Still, my "a lot of" qualifier left room for that to still be accurate. I do still stand by some traditional martial arts, asian or otherwise.
>> Anonymous
>>294588so many martial artists that've failed against Joe Average

I've never understood this internet argument. Let me make sure we're hearing the same thing here.

Years of training, or any training for that matter, causes you to be less competent in a fight than no training at all?
>> Anonymous
>>294618
Aikido
>> Anonymous
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3K-mrlYG7Y

Anon can also deliver...
>> Anonymous
>>294588
Either way, OP references movies as a source of information.

>>Is there any martial art that is recommended for its realistic value and ability to practiced solo or is it all B.S. It seems 90% if whats shown in the movies reinforces unrealistic views of combat

So I'd say that the argument that the OP is a retarded jackass is valid. And I would now like to add that you are also a dumb piece of shit that doesn't know what it's talking about.
>> Anonymous
muay thai, not bullshit.
Don't do jiu jitsu unless you want to end up on the ground, so his friends can come and kick you in the head.
>> Anonymous
>>294623

That was pretty enjoyable to watch. He makes killing someone hilarious.
>> Anonymous
What's the best martial art for taking on multiple people?
>> Anonymous
kung fu bitches, its where its at.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU1ZtDi_g2I
>> Anonymous
>>294618
years of training in a fixed, unrealistic format with little to no applied experience could easily allow for an experienced martial to fail against natural brawling instinct.

My experience is more limited to people with a few years/month under their belt getting their ass handed to them my douchebags who like to pick fights, but that's plenty proof for me to accuse some styles/schools of being impractical bullshido.
>> Anonymous
>>294634
Track and Field.
>> Anonymous
>>294634

Akido is pretty good for taking on multiple attackers.
>> Anonymous
>>294637My experience is more limited to people with a few years/month under their belt getting their ass handed to them my douchebags who like to pick fights, but that's plenty proof for me to accuse some styles/schools of being impractical bullshido.

Maybe they were:
1.Weak
2.Pussys
3.Bad
4. only had a few months/years of training

>>294637years of training in a fixed, unrealistic format with little to no applied experience could easily allow for an experienced martial to fail against natural brawling instinct.

Please do go on to tell me about your natural brawling instinct and how training to fight will hinder it.
>> Anonymous
>>294640
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>> Anonymous
>>294638
>>294638

lol
>> Anonymous
>>294648
Now pay attention to precisely what I'm saying. And note that by disagreeing with me you're saying that the majority of, if not all martial arts are practical, useful, and effective, and that training in damn near any fashion, even if it causes you to develop a harmful preconceived notion of how fighting works, will make you a more effective combatant.

Now if you do not think the above is inaccurate, we're going to just have to agree to disagree and probably write it off and wildly different personal experience.

>4. only had a few months/years of training
You're almost helping my point here.
As for 1-3, some apply, and there's been an occasion or two where I've seen capable fighters abandon their style mid-fightbecause it was doing more harm than good, only to win by brawling. I've seen/heard of some styles help underdogs greatly, which is why I'll never accuse *all* martial arts/dojos/dojangs of being uselsss.
>> Anonymous
>>294656

Why wouldn't it be good?
>> Anonymous
>>294705
I don't know.
>> Anonymous
>>294705

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA
>> Anonymous
>>294705
because it would be against an opponent that isn't a part of your demonstration and you would get kicked in the back of the head while unsuccessfully reaching for his wrist
>> Anonymous
>>294705
While you're flippy wristing some guy. The other one will hit you with a fucking bat that's why.
>> Anonymous
>>294739
>>294736

So because of training I'm going to naturally do the stupidest thing in any given situation? Got it, thanks for clearing things up.
>> Anonymous
>>294739While you're flippy wristing some guy. The other one will hit you with a fucking bat that's why.

So by not training, my natural brawling instinct will keep me from getting hit with bats?
>> Anonymous
>>294767

You fags don't train at full intensity against a resisting opponent. That is why aikido collapses in the fight.
>> Anonymous
>>294773You fags don't train at full intensity against a resisting opponent. That is why aikido collapses in the fight.

I didn't realize you were trashing akido. I thought the post I responded to was another person that was spouting dumb shit about martial arts in general.
>> Anonymous
>>294674there's been an occasion or two where I've seen capable fighters abandon their style mid-fightbecause it was doing more harm than good, only to win by brawling. I've seen/heard of some styles help underdogs greatly, which is why I'll never accuse *all* martial arts/dojos/dojangs of being uselsss.

Fair enough. I still can't imagine someone training so poorly that it actually has a negative impact in a fight though. My 4th point was just that someone with a smaller amount of time training isn't the best point of reference to draw from.
>> Anonymous
>>294767
Sarcasm isn't going to give you your wasted time back.

If you genuinely feel your style of choice has improved your ability, good for you. But all this sarcastic defensiveness that seems to lack even anecdotal backing of the worth of what you're defending is making you look like the droves of mcdojo saps that were better off hitting the gym than paying 2-??x more for a confidence booster with no practical application.
>> Anonymous
>>294780
lol i wasn't sure of your direction lol
>> Anonymous
>>294790If you genuinely feel your style of choice has improved your ability, good for you. But all this sarcastic defensiveness that seems to lack even anecdotal backing of the worth of what you're defending is making you look like the droves of mcdojo saps that were better off hitting the gym than paying 2-??x more for a confidence booster with no practical application.

I do hit the gym, but thanks for the hot tip. And once again, I didn't realize that the posts I were responding to were saying negative things only about akido. I thought it was the same person/people talking negatively about martial arts in general.
>> Anonymous
>>294790If you genuinely feel your style of choice has improved your ability, good for you. But all this sarcastic defensiveness that seems to lack even anecdotal backing of the worth of what you're defending is making you look like the droves of mcdojo saps that were better off hitting the gym than paying 2-??x more for a confidence booster with no practical application.

I posted this>>294804then realized that you actually were saying negative things about martial arts in general. So on to my retort.

You're a moron. I've been training at my school for free for the past several years. So even though price has nothing in particular to do with the debate, it is now completely irrelevant. And as for anecdotal backings what do you want me to say? The most that has been said so far is that one poster watched his friends get their asses kicked, another claimed that while I tried to do what I had trained I'd get hit by a bat, and someone else said something along the lines of "average joes beating martial arts". The big argument against me so far is what sounds like a lot of expertise coming from people with no background other than what they see, not what they know from experience. As for evidence, I've been doing TKD for 10 years (at a good school, they do exist) cross training with boxing, BJJ, weeping jiu-jitsu, and judo. I've also been lifting weights for the past year and a half, my BMI is 23-24 and my body fat is 6%-8%. I can honestly say that in any one on one fight I will have a huge advantage against an untrained opponent, anyone that thinks otherwise is flat out retarded. Against more than one person or an armed opponent my success rate is going to drop a lot, but I'm still better off than the parallel universe version of myself that never trained in any martial arts.
>> Anonymous
Boxing or Muay Thai are the only striking disciplines worth learning.
>> Anonymous
>>294571

Fag who doesn't want to excpet all his years in Tae-kwon-do were wasted.

All this kung-fu and shotoka karate is bullshit.

My advice is to get a jpb and pay $150 a month for a good MMA school. Or $50 for a boxing school. You wont learn to fight on your own.
>> Anonymous
>>294838
No lie.
>> Anonymous
>>294841

*accept
>> Anonymous
>>294825
Holy shit my friends are getting their asses kicked! I should help! I'm going to dragon kick the first one then move to a stepping side kick to a flippy spinny kick then do a umbrella block to stop the bat then do a karate kid kick! Shit so works.
OF COURSE YOUR GOING TO GET HIT WITH A FUCKING BAT.
>> Anonymous
Your best weapon is the zigzagging 200m dash
DO IT
>> Anonymous
>>294838
>>294843

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL9ZXos8LfQ

I'm not saying that TKD is better. I'm just saying that people need to get their heads out of their asses.
>> Anonymous
>>294854

I have a black belt in TKD, I took it for about 3 years. All I can say is 6 months and Muay Thai taught me more (about fighting) than those 3 years in TKD.
>> Anonymous
>>294847Holy shit my friends are getting their asses kicked! I should help! I'm going to dragon kick the first one then move to a stepping side kick to a flippy spinny kick then do a umbrella block to stop the bat then do a karate kid kick! Shit so works.
OF COURSE YOUR GOING TO GET HIT WITH A FUCKING BAT.

Because after 10 years of training in TKD, BJJ, WJJ, Judo and boxing I'm going to jump and spin around and do a "dragon kick". I hope you had fun with your role play as me being a jack ass in a fight. I'm glad that you are clearly grounded in the real world. Good game troll.
>> Anonymous
>>294858All I can say is 6 months and Muay Thai taught me more (about fighting) than those 3 years in TKD.

That's fine with me. Most likely you were in a very crappy TKD school or are now in a good Muay Thai school. As long as you're actually making an informed decision that's cool. The problem is that a lot of internet tough guys base their knowledge of what martial art is superior to all others based on UFC, movies, and videos they see online. My TKD instructor is an angry redneck that hates the pussy Olympic style sparring, so I've learned to fight very well from him.
>> 636363
Jiu Jitsu and Sambo.

All you need.

Ever.
>> Anonymous
>>294825
So what you're saying is your complete lack of real-world experience coupled with 10 years of training somehow validates every single martial art and most schools? I have anecdotal evidence, and experience as a martial artist AND a brawler, and I can say with the utmost confidence that there are a LOT of bad martial arts schools out there. While it's far from solid, it seems a fuck of a lot more credible to me than "well I've been doing it longer, so it shouldn't matter".

By the way, I have three years from an excellent TKD school, and while I'm not ashamed of it, I'd be an idiot to have trained _only_ in that, and never sparred other people ranging from street fighters to black belts of various styles. I can honestly say I've observed some patterns, can you? Or are you just going to keep pretending that learning to shoot a bulls-eye for a year will make you better at hitting a moving target than trying to hit moving targets for 2 months?
>> Anonymous
>>294877
This is what I want
>> Anonymous
>>294877
Not if you're a faggot dumbass. It's all about the individual fighter, not the style.
>> Anonymous
>>294270

Wrestling and boxing.
>> Anonymous
dude the best ones nowadays is m.m.a (mixed martial arts) brazilian jui jitsu or muay thai
they all do street fighting and how to take on small groups of people by yourself

personnaly i like muay thai tha best
>> Anonymous
>>294892So what you're saying is your complete lack of real-world experience coupled with 10 years of training somehow validates every single martial art and most schools? I have anecdotal evidence, and experience as a martial artist AND a brawler, and I can say with the utmost confidence that there are a LOT of bad martial arts schools out there. While it's far from solid, it seems a fuck of a lot more credible to me than "well I've been doing it longer, so it shouldn't matter".

You need to figure out what the fuck you want to debate with me and stick with it. Read my post and try again. So far the vast majority of people in this thread have been trying to tell me that martial arts experience is either neutral or bad in a real world HXC street fight. I'm not debating whether or not some schools suck, obviously shitty instructors are going to be in the game to make a quick buck. I'm debating the effectiveness of martial arts.

>>294892By the way, I have three years from an excellent TKD school, and while I'm not ashamed of it, I'd be an idiot to have trained _only_ in that, and never sparred other people ranging from street fighters to black belts of various styles. I can honestly say I've observed some patterns, can you?

Did you read my post even a little bit? I've said throughout this thread that I've cross trained fairly extensively.

>>Or are you just going to keep pretending that learning to shoot a bulls-eye for a year will make you better at hitting a moving target than trying to hit moving targets for 2 months?

That has to be one of the stupidest analogies I have ever heard.
>> Anonymous
you should go into body building. When you look like mean mother fucker no one will mess with you. You won't have to fight at the first place, and if you do... you beat the shit out of them using only brute force. Success if you ask me.
>> Anonymous
EXPERIENCE

Go down into the city, and start fighting.
That's it.
NOTHING prepares you for the real thing better than the real thing.
>> Anonymous
>>294981you should go into body building. When you look like mean mother fucker no one will mess with you. You won't have to fight at the first place, and if you do... you beat the shit out of them using only brute force. Success if you ask me.

This is actually decent advice. Martial arts are designed to use your body to strike and block in the most effective way possible. However if you're weak, that may still not be very strong. A good martial arts program should do a lot of body strength exercises, but weight lifting at a gym is still recommended.
>> Anonymous
>>295000Go down into the city, and start fighting.

Two things made a sentence that you wanted to sound hardcore end up sounding like pussy shit.

1. "Go down to the city" Let me guess, you ride your bike from the suburbs?

2. You're on 4chan
>> Anonymous
Look into any CQC military self defense. The shit that the marines use is serious biz and same with krav maga and there is also a french CQC and its pretty effective also.
>> Anonymous
>>295008
How is that hardcore in anyway?
The fact is that training and the real thing are different.
By all means, I'm not saying don't train, but you need to learn how you personally react in that kind of situation.

1. Suburbia 4 lyfe. Bikes? BIKES?
Pfft. Jog.

2. Funnily enough, this isn't /b/.
>> Anonymous
Pro tip: Bullets > Biceps
>> Anonymous
1. Krav Maga - Best cqc there is in terms of self defense

2. A russian martial art called "sambo", its dirty and effective. The motherfuckers that bodyguard putin use sambo.

Yea, shit just got real
>> Anonymous
>>295016
Protip: Biceps = failceps.

Why do most people I know only train biceps and that it is awesome. LEGS FAGGOTS. LEGS!

Oh right, because I go to uni and everyone there is a faggot.
>> Anonymous
>>295025
Fair enough.

Bonus Pro Tip: Bullets > Legs
>> Anonymous
Play MGS3 & 4
You will master CQC IRL
>> Theodore Roosevelt
>>295027

bullshit.

Super bonus pro tip: IRON LEGS OF SQUAT STEEL>Bullets.
>> Anonymous
Chuck Zito did Japanese Jiu-Jitsu and some other Martial Arts along with boxing.

If you want to be able to defend yourself, boxing and brazilian jiu-jitsu are a good combo.
>> Anonymous
>>294975
>I'm debating the effectiveness of martial arts.
So was I. Most styles are/were greatly predisposed to breeding these abominations. No matter how good a style is at its best, if all I see it produce is closed-minded, ineffective combatants, I'm going to go ahead and develop a negative opinion. So I feel its fair to place mixed blame between certain styles and the schools/instructors that teach them. You also don't seem to gather that I make a distinction between the styles I've gathered a negative opinion of, others a positive opinion of, and styles I can't comment on because I don't know enough about them. Stop looking at what I say in black and white FFS.

>I've said throughout this thread that I've cross trained fairly extensively.
Never said you didn't. I made an aside that overspecialization is a bad idea, not directed towards you, you defensive fuck. What I was getting at, is despite your cross-training, you haven't noticed the fairly obvious things I have, and I also get an extremely strong impression that you have pretty much zero real-world experience or application of anything you've learned. Just say it already, you've never been in a real fight, or even seen a fight involving any level of martial artist, but you're *pretty* sure you'd do fine. Given the diversity and length of your training and the styles you've picked, you probably will, but don't go on about how effective traditional martial arts are when you've dedicated a disproportionately high chunk of your life to training, and yet never seem to have actually used it.

This discussion is about _applied_ martial arts, and until you have some level of first - hell, even second hand experience that you can speak of, your input boils down to conjecture.

As for my gun analogy, I'm sorry you didn't like it, but that's probably because it hits home.
>> Anonymous
Wow, sure is a lot of ass burgers faggotry going on in here (protip: noone cares about your well thought out rebuttal, it is easily defeated by a simple "NO U.")

BOXING, KICKBOXING or KRAV MAGA.

Already suggested by sensible people for good reason - they're practical, or somewhat more so than other disciplines.

You cannot train in these fighting disciplines on your own.

OP is terrible if serious, professional if a troll.
>> Anonymous
Boxing. Easiest to learn, most effective IRL.
>> Anonymous
TL;DR

>Training on your own but being effective is oxymoronic.

>You never know.
>> Anonymous
Just go learn MMA.
You'll actually get to fight in the sport too
>> 636363
>>294894

Your point?
>> Anonymous
>>294625
Ok Mr. Miyagi--you go on living in your dream world--you are obviously a "grand master" of kung pau fu or whatever. Just remember this post when you get your ass handed to you some day by Joe Average. MUWAHAHAHAHA dickhole
>> Anonymous
I LOVE that fact that all these so-called Martial Arts experts all hang out on 4chan BWAHAHAHAHAH yeah, sure....all expert opinion here.
>> Anonymous
Go to bullshido.net, not 4chan. Lurk.

But while I'm here, dim mak isn't real. MMA doesn't "disallow" it.
>> Anonymous
Did krotty for 13 years, taught for 4.

I believe that you can indeed be taught things that make you less effective in a fight. For instance, blocks. You see, blocks as taught intraditional krotty/tkd/wushu, etc (I've done all three) travel farther than the technique they're blocking. Adding to the fail, the technique they're blocking had a head start. A good guard is better than trying to block.

Many martial arts, and I'm looking at all the krotty point fighters and the wing chunners here, teach that fights occur at an artificial range. Krotty and TKD guys love to peck at one another from kick range, which is farther apart than they'll encounter in a more realistic fight. Wing Chun teaches chi sao at a completely artifical range that doesn't happen in the real world as a static range at all but is instead passed through on its way from fistfighting to clinching.

Unrealistic expectations in terms of contact or types of attack to be expected abound in traditional asian martial arts. Aikidoka eventually start believing that somebody is actually going to GRAB THEIR FUCKING WRIST. Hahahahahaha! Krotty guys learn lots of blocks against an imaginary haymaker that they're unlikely to see, and few or none against the hook punch they are likely to see. Both of the above might get to advanced dan levels without ever getting their bells rung in a fist fight, or the wind knocked out of them, or anything like it, so they have no preparation for the inevitable hits they'll take in a real fight. Their unrealistic expectations and lack of experience with pain leads them to approach a fight as if it's a different animal from what it really is. I have seen this and experienced it as a recovering traditional martial artist myself.
>> Anonymous
Learn to box, wrestle and lift weights.

If after a year of solid training, those three things can't help you out of a fight, then you're doing something horribly wrong.

You will rarely encounter someone more competent than you in a fight unless you're the dipshit going round provoking people.

Good fighters, learn along with their many hours of hard work, that starting fights in the street is for losers. You only really need to worry about gym rat MMA posers who like to rumble on a Saturday night to impress some barfly whore... and provided you learn to box and wrestle well, they're going to suffer for it.

If on the off chance, a very decent fighter decides to ruin your shit for no reason, run the fuck away.
>> Moo !XBOXgikTFw
I just stand there and yell until I turn blonde, then I waste those fuckers with my KAMEHAMEHA
>> Anonymous
Squats!
>> Anonymous
>>295405

Sounds like you went to a horrible TKD school dude.
>> Anonymous
>>294864

I will also say this though, TKD gave me a shit load of flexibility and balance. I lost almost all of it since I stopped going.
>> Anonymous
I've trained multiple ways from different people and this is what I think.

Some martial arts are more for the "sports and health" aspect, others are for self defence and killing people.

I took taekwondo for a year and it's ok. Pretty basic stuff and will be good experience if you get to spar. Same with Muay Thai (i only did half a year though). Muay Thai is almost zero technique and all pure power. After I did wing chun and I started using wing chun to take down people in the muay thai class the teacher said it was not allowed and told me off. I argued that it doesn't matter as long as it works, but he said we don't do that here so meh...
>> Anonymous
Wing chun is very good in that it trains your speed, reflexes and technique.
1) speed: if you dont have speed, then you will never make it. in a demo bruce lee asked someone to punch him in the face, when the guy was midway bruce slapped him gently on the guy's face, to show that he was much faster.
2) reflex: in a real fight, you do not have time to go back and think about what to do next. when you see an opening, you need to just hit him or kick him instantly, do not think. the time it takes you to think will probably cause you death, or a lot of pain. there was a guy that did jiujutsu and always wanted to take me down. i always ignored him. then one day he charged at me and out of pure instinct i kicked him right in the face. he got pissed off and said he was just joking and i was sorry too but my body reacted without my mind. that is very important.
3) technique: know the human body, the joints, the weakspots and maybe even how to kill someone. just do not target those places when sparring, even if you think you are holding back your power, because if targeting those places become instinct, you may kill someone without meaning to. that is bad.
>> Anonymous
best way to get your speed and reflex up is this old method my teacher taught us. get a very realistic looking knife but not sharp, if you dont have one get a butter knife or just file down a knife till it's blunt. the point is to forcibly fool your brain into realizing it is a real knife and not a fake knife. ask a friend or partner to jab you with it and you block. start slowly and work your speed up gradually. because your brain is telling you you will die if you dont block the attack, you will be much more focused and will improve very quickly.

shuffling is the act of moving your feet quickly but not losing balance. by always having one foot infront and one foot behind you will never be caught with both feet side by side and one not touching the ground - which is when you are most vulnerable and can be taken to the floor. move towards or away from your enemy by shuffling.
how to practice: get a length of rope. tie it between your ankles so you have a little more than shoulder width to work with. this will be a limitation. now get your friend and use the fake knife again to attack you and move back by shuffling. do not walk back as this then ruins the point of the training. increase speed gradually. ive seen people lose fights because they do not shuffle. people focus too much on strength. if you cant hit me then all that strength is of no use. ive also seen people that can shuffle faster than untrained people can run.

i dont focus so much on the chinese or korean or isreal style of fighting. it just comes down to speed and reflex most of the time.

anyway ive been in some fights, some ive won some ive lost. this stuff really helps.
>> Anonymous
>>294270
The things you can do alone that actually has some impact on your fighting ability are by far exercises for your mind. In a fight it is essential to stay cool, stay focused and also have a correct attitude and by correct I mean RRRWWAAARRHGGH! Of course in order for any solitary concentration exercise to have any effect on your ability to focus in a fight it must be something that trains your concentration on very general level. If you focus better in general you will focus better in a fight and also bettering concentration will contribute to taking control of your wits in the stressful situation of getting into a fight.

And then there's the attitude. You can't be a pussy. You've probably done everything you can to avoid the fight so when you finally are forced to defend yourself with force you better not lose. Kick them in the balls, poke them in the eyes, pull their ears; there's nothing valuable about a fair fight, because anyone using violence against you doesn't deserve being treated fairly. But it's important that you surprise with the nasty stuff, responding to their cruelty with an unexpectedly higher level of cruelty is the core of surprise which is the core of winning. Once you've surprised you have a chance to end the fight if you're decisive. And this is where the concentration comes in: you need to be focused to be decisive, and not stand awing at your ability to surprise your opponent. You need to jump at them the instant that chance comes and pummel them quickly and efficiently without letting the adrenaline get to your head, so as to avoid going to jail for killing the fucker. Because despite doing everything that must be done to win you still don't want to be punished for it, do you?
>> Anonymous
tl:dr

Buy a gun
>> Anonymous
>>294270
MA is obsolete. Gunfighting obsoleted it. And as for why no training can better than training, its because no training can be better than dumb training aka all "traditional" and "sport" MA. C ya bitches.