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> It all depends what you mean by "results".
As I said, appearance and strength both. Both are worthy goals and a well-rounded individual can respect achievement in either. You can argue functional strength all you want, but it's functional to look like a lifter, too, because you never know when some mugger might catch sight of the outline of your muscles and think, "Maybe I'll hit the next guy instead."
Appearances count, and so does strength.
> If you have a base first, accessory work including isolation exercises are great. Just, not for beginners.
Alright. Been training for years now and benching 225 lbs for a max at 160 lbs and 5'8". I'd say I have a good base for my size. Regardless, my chest was pretty damned flat and my shoulders are huge. So far, no idea whether there will be carryover to the bench press poundages, because I'm not going for a PR just yet... but I'm noticing increased size almost immediately in this cycle... whatever else, I'm beginning to look like a guy who does a good bench... finally.
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