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Does Exercise Really Make Us Thinner? Anonymous
Just last month, the American Heart Association and the American College of Sports Medicine published joint guidelines for physical activity and health. They suggested that 30 minutes of moderate physical activity five days a week is necessary to “promote and maintain health.” What they didn’t say, though, was that more physical activity will lead us to lose weight. Indeed, the best they could say about the relationship between fat and exercise was this: “It is reasonable to assume that persons with relatively high daily energy expenditures would be less likely to gain weight over time, compared with those who have low energy expenditures. So far, data to support this hypothesis are not particularly compelling.” In other words, despite half a century of efforts to prove otherwise, scientists still can’t say that exercise will help keep off the pounds.

http://nymag.com/news/sports/38001/

what do u think /fit/?
>> Anonymous
blackuyasha
>> SaiGAR_Loser !!2OQL1suPfp+
Skimming over it seems the missed the point of where to burn fat your caloric intake must be less than your caloric consumption, but I'll give it a full once over in a bit.
>> SaiGAR_Loser !!2OQL1suPfp+
Ok having given it the once over they're missing atleast one glaring point. All the exercises and studys they're talkngi about discribe the participants doing only cardio, no anaerobic exercise. They're completely right about the slices of bread and the stairs and what have you. It takes along time of cardio to get any significat calorie loss out of it. That's why you should also do annerobic, so you have more muscle mass which raises your basal metabolic rate, or the amount of energy expended while your body does it's shit and you just sit there. BMR is by far the largest component of total caloric expenditure, unless you're participating in the Tour de France or anything else on that scale.

The loog and short of it that they're missing a giant part of the shit goes in < shit goes out equation.
>> Anonymous
>>13605
You are stupid.

>>13624
You are not.
>> Anonymous
>>13624
increased appetite would result from this according to the article, even at rest - your body expends more while it "does it's shit and you just sit there" so it will compensate this increase by giving you the munchies (body need food).

>During a workout, LPL activity increases in muscle tissue, and so our muscle cells suck up fatty acids to use for fuel. Then, when we’re done exercising, LPL activity in the muscle tissue tapers off and LPL activity in our fat tissue spikes, pulling calories into fat cells. This works to return to the fat cells any fat they might have had to surrender—homeostasis.
>> Anonymous
Who did the study? Weight Watchers and fat fuckers? No, it was the Heart Association. The 30 minutes is to improve quality of life and get people to start enjoying physical activity. Some exercise is better than none, for the HEART, and if you want to lose weight, do more work and don't eat so much shit.
>> Anonymous
>>13646
>Some exercise is better than none, for the HEART
that's not the argument, and the article specifically states that there are benefits to exercise, however... we are discussing whether exercise contributes to weight loss or prevents weight gain (fat). feel free to contribute.
>> Anonymous
Exercise
-Burns Calories
-Increases Metabolism

Put these two together, and you have weight loss. Just don't be a fucktard and try to gain muscle(even though to lose weight you should do some lifting)
>> Anonymous
>>13693
The article was being unusually responsible and not overstating the results of the research.
>> Anonymous
Oh, is that Taubes? Awesome. All he's saying is there's no _scientific_ evidence for exercise alone working very well to reduce fat, that people who move around more end up eating more, and that the idea of calories in calories out idea doesn't hold up. He didn't miss the point, he's proposing the point is poorly researched and possibly wrong.
>> Anonymous
>>13710

That's because Taubes has the mental discipline of a good scientist. Apparently he uses that to his advantage, finding his story material by researching what the shittiest scientists are working on.
>> Saigaguy !n87gAqL9/w
I have always read - and my own efforts at losing weight have borne out - that its not just taking in less calories (though that is necessary and to some extent works pretty well) but *what* calories you consume. Tons of complex carbs isn't gonna do too good for your body image, protein should be a staple of any weight-loss diet.

YMMV, of course, and perhaps I'm just flat out wrong, but thats what has worked for me.
>> Anonymous
Lets see... when I started working out again on October 1st of 2007, I weighed 308.8lbs and wore size 42 waist pants. I'm now 277.6lbs and in 38 waist pants.

This is the second time in my life I've done this and I'm going to try to make it stick this time. So yeah, I'd say it does help a lot.
>> Anonymous
That's like saying that there's no specific evidence that water makes make you wet, because sometimes you wear a raincoat. Fuck that article.