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i heard that for weight gaining, it is best to consume atleast 1g of protein per bodyweight pound (or 2g of protein per 1kg of bodyweight)
i consume way less than that, maybe only 1/3 of that.
so ive gained some interest in barrels of whey protein. not only they have proteins, but they also have amino acids and glutamic acid.
on a hand, it's cheap and i get great amount of proteins but on the other hand, can my main source of protein come from a powder protein?

i really need those proteins ive been training religiously for the last 6 months with little strenght or hypertrophy gains. what do you think, is it worth buying protein powder?
>> Anonymous
Protein powder is ideal for people who don't get enough protein in their whole food diet. Be careful you don't take in too much of the stuff, or you'll get epic gas.
>> Old Geezer !YI1jEQivlM
Where is everybody getting the 1gm per pound? It's a odd mix of metric and English units, and what I've read as of late states it's supposed to be 1gm per Kg.
>> Anonymous
Whey protein is a supplement. That means you should only use it to HELP your protein intake, it shouldn't be your main source

Animal proteins are the best source. Egg whites, skim milk, lean beef, chicken and turkey breast, fish, etc. are the best sources. You should try to have at least one at each meal. You can also get proteins from plant products like beans and soy, but these aren't complete proteins, and can't be used as effectively as animal proteins.

1 gram per pound of lean body weight sounds intimidating, but it's not that hard. First, you should be eating 5 small meals a day, and you can divide your protein intake between the meals. So 150 lbs. of lean body weight = 30 grams of protein per meal. If you can't get that much in a meal, you turn to whey protein.

Don't forget that you need to eat more in general. Protein will help rebuild your muscles larger and stronger after a workout, but you need more carbs and fat to fuel the muscles, too.
>> Old Geezer !YI1jEQivlM
>>39450

Again, where is the 1gm per pound coming from?

Also, OP, we need to know how much you weigh.
>> Anonymous
ITS 2 GRAMS PER ONE KILO

1 point something GRAM PER POUND
>> Old Geezer !YI1jEQivlM
>>39455

ALLCAPS makes it true I guess.
>> Anonymous
>>39460
It's basically accepted bodybuilding wisdom. Most of the hardcore dudes I used to pal around with only followed it when they were doing cycles precontest.

Of course, when they were carb-depleting six weeks out from a show all they COULD eat was protein sources...
>> Anonymous
>>39454
well i read that weight lifter need that much protein. http://weighttraining.about.com/od/nutritionforweights/qt/protein_howmuch.htm

i weight 140 lb on an empty stomach, 5'10
>> Old Geezer !YI1jEQivlM
>>39483
>>39501

The key words:

>bodybuilding
>weight-lifter

And from the linked site:

>Much less than this is going to be sufficient for moderate or less intense exercise.

You don't need more than 1-1.5gms per Kg unless you're an athlete, or a competitive body builder. I am going to guess that the majority of people here aren't. Saves money on not having to buy assloads of supplements.
>> Anonymous
eat loads of milk, meat, broccoli and beans in every meal
>> RSI guy !HjbWRiSTJ.
>>39454
I also want to know where grams per pounds come from. they are clearly divided, i don't want my units breeding weirdness, unless it's explainable with math.
>> Anonymous
For years bodybuilders have been saying "Eat one gram of protein per pound." Why? Because they're pros and have twice the muscle mass anyone on /fit/ does. More muscle mass = more protein intake to maintain it. Especially when you cut carbs to lean out.

My standard regime for years was about 0.5 grams per pound of bodyweight. One year I took it up to 1 gram per pound. I came down with a nasty cold and went to the doctor. They did bloodwork and the doc was shocked at my blood protein level. He said he was concerned that my kidneys might not be working (they usually filter out excess protein). I explained my diet, and he said that it was possible that explained it.

In the end, if you're not a competitive bodybuilder (read: >240 pounds at 5'10" and no body fat), don't stress about it. Get some of your protein as powder because it's easy and quick, but get as much as you can from lean chicken, pork (which is leaner than chicken today), beef, and yes tofu.

Fuck, for most people trying to build muscle about 60 grams per day is more than they'll need. It's only when you get to the point where you can't wash your hair because your traps are so fucking big do you need 1 gram per pound bodyweight.
>> Anonymous
>>40548
I've been eating a gram per pound for a year and a half and I feel absolutely fine.
>> Anonymous
>>40557

I didn't mean to imply that my sickness was from protein. I felt fine otherwise. but my doctor's comments prompted some thinking and I felt that stressing my kidneys wasn't the best option.

However, I do believe that 1 gram per pound is excessive for all but the biggest bodybuilders. If you are comfortable with it, then go for it. I just realized that I didn't need it (at 5'11" 205 very lean at the time) to continue building muscle mass.

YMMV.
>> Anonymous
Milk and Cottage Cheese
Milk and Cottage Cheese
Milk and Cottage Cheese
Milk and Cottage Cheese
Milk and Cottage Cheese
>> Anonymous
>>40548

That's complete bullshit, I've been taking in 2g of protein per pound for the past eight months and have not once gotten sick. I've put on 35 lbs of muscle so far.

OP, go to teenbodybuilding.com and lurk around. Find out your maintenance calorie level (google it) and add about 600 calories a day, plus 150g of protein at least. If you can't eat enough, switch to cottage cheese and Cytogainer / muscle milk.
>> Anonymous
>>40569

The only thing that would be stressing kidneys would be Creatine, not protein. Why the fuck aren't bodybuilders dropping dead if taking in that much was "unhealthy?" IFBB regulars take in 9000 calories a day and they live well into their 80s
>> Anonymous
>>40592
impossible to put on 35 lbs of muscle in 8 months without steroids. i wanna say the limit for the human body is around 2 lbs a month but i think that might even be high
>> Anonymous
>>40594
That's also wrong. If you overload your body with protein your kidneys WILL get fucked up. Try drinking your day's worth of protein all at once everyday and see how your kidney's hold up.
>> Anonymous
>>40596

Wrong. I put two pounds a week in my first couple months because I was just starting to shock my body, and once I got to the point of having to switch exercises it went down to a lb a week. Just because most people aren't dedicated enough to do it doesn't mean it's impossible without juice.

>>40597
I drink 75g of protein at once everyday and it hasn't done jack shit besides help my recovery. And besides, I usually spread my meals out to six a day, when did anyone say you had to have it in one meal? That's idiotic, totally defeats the purpose of having protein in your system 24/7
>> Anonymous
>>40592
I wrote that my getting sick had nothing to do with protein:
>>40569

And it's not bullshit. Google it. Find one link that says it is not bad for your kidneys.

>>40594
Name one IFBB pro in their 80s. Bodybuilding isn't old enough. Some of the guys from Arnold's day (where the heavy 'roid use began) are in their 50s. Even then, they aren't like the freaks on stage today, using insane amounts of HGH and steroids.

Besides, their bodies use more protein than almost anyone else's, because they have so much muscle mass they need a ton of protein just to maintain it.

I did a quick Google and found a few sources (one at Harvard school of Public Health) that says adults need about 0.8g protein per kilogram body weight per day to maintain muscle mass. Obviously to build muscle you need more, which is where the 1g/kg bodyweight number comes from, I'm guessing.

More than that and you're pissing it away and hurting you kidneys. Oh, and there's another study that found that high protein diets (over long periods of time) can cause weakening of the bones because processing protein requires calcium. If you don't get enough calcium, your body takes it from your bones. Not good if you lift heavy weights.

>>40600
Parent is right; spread it out over the course of the day, but make sure you get a good amount right after your workout.
>> Anonymous
>>40600

It hasn't done jack shit because you can only absorb around 30-40 grams of protein at once.
>> Anonymous
I recommend to aim for about 1 gram of protein per lbs. Usually no one even nearly get close to this.

some useful links for this
http://www.ms-se.com/pt/pt-core/template-journal/msse/media/1200.pdf

"
Protein recommendations for resistance and strength-trained athletes are 1.6 to 1.7 g/kg bodyweight per day. It has been recommended that experienced male bodybuilders and strength athletes consume 1.6 to 1.7 g/kg bodyweight per day to allow for the accumulation and maintenance of lean tissue."