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Milk Anonymous
Why is everyone saying milk is bad for you now, i drink milk daily and i think it's a load of bollocks.
>> Anonymous
Made by cows, for cows. Enjoy your phlegm buildup, heart disease, and rotting innards.
>> Anonymous
>>269774
Enjoy being scrawny vegan faggot.
>> Anonymous
I used to drink like five glasses a day. Personally, the idea of drinking fluid excreted by the teat of another species just started freaking me out, so I stopped.

Water's better for you anyway, and you can get all the benefits of milk elsewhere without the downsides.
>> Anonymous
Guess what faggot while i'll be enjoying a steak you will be crying over what plant to eat.. lol
>> Anonymous
I drink about a pint of milk a day, because I like it.

It's a good source of calcium and protein amongst other things, and it doesn't disagree with me. Only argument against it I can sympathise with is that the hormones and antibiotics cows are fed can be a bit problematic, but then, tap water is fucked in a similar way thanks to birth control.

And if you have to you can always drink organic.
>> Anonymous
>>269783
Irrelevant post is irrelevant.
Idiotic poster is idiotic.
No one is advocating vegetarianism, and even if they were...what?
>> Anonymous
>>269788
Because vegans need to shut their fucking traps. "I READ AN ARTICLE ONLINE MINDFUCKED HURR"

shut your fucking trap.
>> Anonymous
>>269774

I lol'd.
>> Anonymous
whats wrong with milk? is this phelgm build up, heart disease, and rotting innards talk based on any science?

I drink milk every morning and have cottage cheese before bed. am i going to die :(
>> Anonymous
>>269813
Some stupid vegan faggot talking out his arse, i drink milk everyday and i feel great.
>> Anonymous
>>269790
Who's a vegan? No one's said anything supporting veganism, and no one's claimed expert knowledge based on any "articles." The problem is you're pulling things out of your ass.
>> Anonymous
>>269848
Also, how about some sources or actual scientific data instead of people just yelling random information?
>> Anonymous
Milk is delicious. I'll continue to drink it.
>> Anonymous
milk is actually getting pretty expensive.
>> Anonymous
I put 3% milk in my coffee. That's about it. Milk is a #1 instigator for halitosis.
>> Anonymous
Cow's milk is an unhealthy fluid from diseased animals that contains a wide range of dangerous and disease-causing substances that have a cumulative negative effect on all who consume it.

MILK'S BASIC CONTENTS

*ALL* cow's milk (regular and 'organic') has 59 active hormones, scores of allergens, fat and cholesterol.

Most cow's milk has measurable quantities of herbicides, pesticides, dioxins (up to 200 times the safe levels), up to 52 powerful antibiotics (perhaps 53, with LS-50), blood, pus, feces, bacteria and viruses. (Cow's milk can have traces of anything the cow ate... including such things as radioactive fallout from nuke testing ... (the 50's strontium-90 problem).
>> Anonymous
CANCER FUEL

Of those 59 hormones one is a powerful GROWTH hormone called Insulin- like Growth Factor ONE (IGF-1). By a freak of nature it is identical in cows and humans. Consider this hormone to be a "fuel cell" for any cancer... (the medical world says IGF-1 is a key factor in the rapid growth and proliferation of breast, prostate and colon cancers, and we suspect that most likely it will be found to promote ALL cancers).

IGF-1 is a normal part of ALL milk... the newborn is SUPPOSED to grow quickly! What makes the 50% of obese American consumers think they need MORE growth? Consumers don't think anything about it because they do not have a clue to the problem... nor do most of our doctors.
>> Anonymous
I drink a gallon of milk a day.


"oh noes, but u will get hear disise from da SATURAPED FATS!!!"

No I won't. It doesn't work like that.
>> Anonymous
>>269894
>>269895
making up facts and numbers is fun!
>> Anonymous
>>269899
ignoring facts is also detrimental to your health.
>> Anonymous
D: Are you guys serious? I drink a class of milk everyday and I eat cheese and ice cream and stuff too. Everyone always says it's good for me and will help my bones and blah blah blah.
>> Anonymous
>>269894
>>269895
I'm going to get radioactive exposure along with breast, prostate, and colon cancer.

Seriously, stop being pussies. According to scientists, everything causes cancer. And if not, I can make up some bullshit saying so.
>> Anonymous
Mr. T drinks milk everyday and he still kicks ass. Are you disrespecting Mr.T's proven accomplishments with milk?

If a cow's milk contains all those terrible chemicals, then it's meat does too. Everything we eat at this point in time, is a chemical cocktail of epic proportions. There is no real way to escape it. But consider this--the shit we used 50 years ago was a lot more toxic then what they use now, and there are still people over 50 in good health. There is no wide spread milk epidemic that will destroy us all. And we know there is mercury in tuna, but it hasn't given us heavy metal poisoning yet.

Man the fuck up. Everything we eat is toxic, all you can do is make sure you get a healthy balance of radioactive waste, pesticides, herbicides, growth hormones, anti-biotics, and fecal mater.

You're just being a bitch because you want to binge on pesticides, you godamn fat pussy.
>> Anonymous
Are you fucking kidding me? But how the fuck do you people eat cereal?!
>> Anonymous
>>269933
Lots of meat does contain shit like TCDD since the chemical is fat soluble. That's why they should say you shouldn't eat too much of it. But red meat contains several proteins you can't get anywhere else. It's harder and more expensive to live like a vegan due to all those supplements. In a way I wonder if it's natural considering animals eating animals is the way things are. But whatever right?
>> Anonymous
>>269929
Computers, tv screens, cellphones, excessive potassium, peanut butter, tomatoes, organges too
>> Anonymous
I fucking love it
>> Anonymous
>>269943
The point i'm trying to make is what you're trying to say. Are suppliments natural? How many chemicals are in them to make them easier to digest and absorb? How much of what is in them CAN be absorbed when taken that way?

The only thing you can do is eat properly, get all the nutrition you need, and not worry about the chemicals so much. Cancer has been around since the dawn of fucking time.
>> Anonymous
>>269899
You're only saying that because you didn't understand it and only saw the numbers. Lrn2think.
>> Anonymous
>>269950
>Cancer has been around since the dawn of fucking time.

prove it.
>> Anonymous
Sucking on an animals teats is natural.
>> Anonymous
http://cancer.about.com/od/historyofcancer/a/cancerhistory.htm

"The world's oldest documented case of cancer hails from ancient Egypt, in 1500 b.c. The details were recorded on a papyrus, documenting 8 cases of tumors occurring on the breast. It was treated by cauterization, a method to destroy tissue with a hot instrument called "the fire drill". It was also recorded that there was no treatment for the disease, only palliative treatment."
>> Mark !tsGpSwX8mo
Milk is good for you, drink it.
>> Anonymous
>>269966
have you ever seen ancient Egyptian papyrus?

They're making that shit up, nobody knows for certain what they stand for.
>> Anonymous
>>269939
I don't, I cook my oatmeal with water.
>> Anonymous
>>269978
I'm sure there's some legitimacy to this.
>> Anonymous
>>269781
where can i get the benefits of milk wtihout the downsides?
>> Anonymous
>>269997
did the internets tell you?
>> Anonymous
I've always viewed milk as a healthy substance I must consume everyday, but it's really gross and I have to drink it slowly or else I'll vomit. Also, It's a little better now because I've been putting strawberry syrup in it. Yum.
>> Anonymous
>>269954

DURRRR GOD EXIST YOU HAFTA PROEVE HE DOESNTCAUSE BIBLE SAYS SHIT AND TV
>> Anonymous
>>270013
I take multivitamins and drink a glass of orange juice (calcium enriched or whatever) every morning. I'm not going to act like I know all the benefits of milk, but it seems like that would cover it.
>> Anonymous
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>>270040
RELIGION AS A VIRUS AND IM NOT GUNNA LET YOU HURT OUR CHILDRENS ANYMORE
>> Anonymous
Goat Milk > Cow Milk
>> Anonymous
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Milk. It's what I'm drinking right now, and it's delicious.

Milk and Squats FTW.
>> Anonymous
>>269778
goat is much more digestible and presents less allergies in people.

>>269894
i'm sure human milk has 59 active hormones also.

>>269966
in the last hundred years cancer has risen to the top of the deaths charts. 100 years ago cancer was at the bottom. This should doesn't occur in nature. But has been happening widespread since the 1900s. Look it up. Follow the history. I'm too lazy
>> Anonymous
Saying you shouldn't drink milk because its "made for cows" would translate into "the only thing humans can eat is breast milk from a woman" because NOTHING is tailor made for human consumption.

Our stomaches can digest a lot of shit. So we eat a lot of shit. Unless you're lactose intolerant, milk is a fantastic thing to drink.
>> Anonymous
>>270824
Cancer wasn't always and/or properly diagnosed until the 1900s.

Most of the time if you got sick and died, that was that. No one cared why. Get cancer, get weak, get pneumonia, they call cause of death pneumonia.
>> Anonymous
>>269989
That's fucking disgusting. Do you use evaporated milk at least?
>>269895
Buy fucking organic shit. Do you know how much shit you're even exposed too? From the plastics that cover your meat, to the plastics in your fucking Xbox? To the air you breathe? To the soaps you use?

Why don't you just put yourself in a bottle?
>> Anonymous
>>270843
hmm. thanks. the only other thing I have to say that's not been refuted here is this:
cancer doesn't almost never occurs in nature. animals in the wild getting tumors is like totally weird. but us humans we've got plenty.
>> Anonymous
I don't drink milk, I have an intolerance on lactose...
anyone knows anything about this ?
>> Anonymous
>>270905
see>>270824
>> Anonymous
>>270909
Ok, but is there a way to cure this ?
I wasn't always lactose intolerant ...
>> Anonymous
>>269895
>IGF-1 is a normal part of ALL milk... the newborn is SUPPOSED to grow quickly! What makes the 50% of obese American consumers think they need MORE growth?

Look at me! I'm afraid to grow! Fucking vegan. Get out of my /fit/. Growth is the fucking point, idiot. You are scum of the earth, you pitiful weakling.

Milk is slow-release protein combined with slow-release carbs, for a long and consistent flow of nutrients. Casein is the best all-around protein, yielding better gains than whey. Lactose has a GI of about 20, which is low like a motherfucker, much lower than even oatmeal.

No milk? You lose, scrawny faggot.
>> Anonymous
patorization does kill the bacterai BUT bacteria debree from the pastoritation is STILL in the milk , witch youre immune system dosent recon , enjoy youre cancer.
Milk aint for human consumption.
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>> Anonymous
milk is the best, i have sex with milk- thats how much i love it.
>> Anonymous
Everything causes Cancer

Living will cause your body to break down DURRRRRRR
>> Anonymous
>>270918
You can become lactose intolerant later on in life it's weird like that. The enzymes just stop being made. But no you can't just get it back. You can take pills though

http://www.fitsugar.com/1700810
>> Anonymous
Milk makes me sick, it always tastes spoiled or somehow like it managed to rot. Doesn't matter if I just got it, even if it doesn't expire for a while. I'll stick with water and my steaks though.
>> Anonymous
>>269778

pro tip not all vegans are scrawny
>> Anonymous
Milk is okay, but the producers in America are dirty as shit and fill dairy cows with weird fucking hormones that aren't good for anyone.

If you're a eurofag, keep drinking it. Amerifags shouldn't.
>> Anonymous
>>270824
Let's see, why did cancer become such a huge problem since the 1900s? Could it be because it has such a bigger field to play in now? Really, what happens when you take away something that has been killing people in large numbers? It couldn't be that other diseases might become more problematic? What about the huge fucking difference in population size now, compared to pre-1900? You think that might be a huge factor?

I don't see how the fuck you think it isn't natural for this shit to happen. What do you think will happen when they cure cancer? People will live for fucking forever? No, another disease will kill people. Which is what has been happening, and will happen for as long as organics live.
>> Anonymous
>>271228
I know a vegan who's fat, and grows serious stubble. (A girl).
I blame soya and its eostrogen-like effects.
>> Anonymous
being in nz I think all the cows are pretty natural, i drink a couple glasses a day, just standard. I like the taste, and the texture. its good for the stomach lining someone said.
>> faggot !kzxLmJyzX.
>>271379
>>Let's see, why did cancer become such a huge problem since the 1900s? Could it be because it has such a bigger field to play in now?

As far as i know we didn't know that much about cancer pre 1900's to record any data on it.
>> Anonymous
>>271379

This.

Of course cancer figures rose sharply... but that's because massively more amounts of people survived to older ages where they would usually have been killed off by something else.

If you have a population of 1 million, who all live to 30 before being culled, you won't find as much cancer as you would in the same 1 million left alive until 70.

Cancer has become so widespread because so many damn people are being allowed to reach the risk ages.
>> Anonymous
milk makes me extremely gassy and bloated. i guess i'm lactose intolerant but i've never been tested.

soy milk is disgusting but i love vanilla and chocolate almond milk. slightly nutty and very tasty.
>> Anonymous
what the fuck is this shit about growth hormones in milk
do you actually think that any meaningful amount reaches your blood?
growth hormone and insulin like growth factor are peptides and are digested just like any other protein you eat
if they weren't there would exist oral forms of hgh and igf-1 for human consumption and there aren't any
you have to inject it
besides if the hormones in milk would actually pass into your blood why would people buy expensive hgh and inject it if they could just drink milk which is basicaly free if you compare it to hgh
>> Anonymous
I've been drinking milk since the day I was born why should I stop now?
>> Anonymous
>>271228
Protip: most vegans are scrawny. You know that shit as well as I do, cunt. Soy is a protein with an inferior BV value to whey, casein, meat, and eggs. It also carries phyto-estrogens that are proven to have estrogenic effects in humans.

The only vegans that aren't scrawny are the juicers, because anyone can gain on roids, even eating soy.
>> Anonymous
>>269754
Because it's 4chan. You can ignore every other reply.
>> Anonymous !Ep8pui8Vw2
>>269813

We're all going to die shit-for-brains.
Drink the milk...fucking drink it now.
>> Anonymous
Yeah milk causes cancer, so does the fucking sun.

Stay inside, drink distilled water, and don't pump your own fucking gasoline!
>> Anonymous
most of the things that are good for you in milk have been put in it artificially. and think about this: what other animal drinks the milk of... another animal? i still love milk in mah cereal tho.
>> Anonymous
>>270824
>i'm sure human milk has 59 active hormones also.

I'm sure you're right. There's a reason why humans don't drink human milk after the age of 2.

Portip: it's because the body doesn't need or digest milk after you are grown.
>> Anonymous
>>271480
aside from those in dire circumstance (like cats that have been abandoned drinking a mother dog's milk). and even still, after a while they stop drinking milk altogether
>> Anonymous
>>271481
All lactose-intolerant kikes like you should burn in the ovens. I'm of the master race, and we conquered the world drinking milk.
>> Anonymous
Almost every thing ever made causes cancer now; we're going to die anyway. Drink milk if you like to.

Jesus, I would make that cheerleader drink shitloads of milk...
>> Anonymous
>>270824
HEY GUYS PEOPLE WITH HIV ARENT DYING OF CANCER IT MUST PREVENT IT!
Figure out causation v correlation. It was the fact that people were living longer, and fucking NOT DYING OF OTHER THINGS. You're fucking retarded.
>>270903
Yeah and in nature animals die before they get old. You think grandpa jimmy would be able to outrun the lion until he lives to get cancer? No, he would die mighty quickly.
>> Anonymous
I'm going to get a nice glass of milk.
>> Anonymous
>>271501
Actually one of the big symptoms of AIDS when it was first being discovered was a rare form of cancer. This lead to a big inquiry into why a bunch of gay men were getting this weird cancer, hence "Gay Cancer".
>> Anonymous
>>271489
> I'm of the master race, and we conquered beastiality and the sucking the teats of farm animals.

fixd
>> Anonymous
Probably, lactose intolerant will be weeded out during evolution because people hate mating with pussies
>> Anonymous
>>271539
mating with a man with halitosis, heart disease and constant phlegm is much better right?
>> Anonymous
>>271541
Fucking too right. Pussy.
>> CancerIsAvoidableFag
>>271379
>>271395
ok from now on I post with the name: CancerIsAvoidableFag

>>271501
>Animals die before they get old. So humans get cancer just because we never lived so long in our life? perhaps it contributes, but I absolutely do not believe that can be the solitary single reason. The body is more complex than that.

In the remote recesses of the Himalaya mountains, between west pakistan, india, and china, there is a tiny kingdom called hunza. these people are known world over for their amazing longevity and good health. visiting medical teams report there has never been a case of cancer. we learned shit, but most people here don't give a fuck because there's no profit in their way of life.

if you do give a shit, the source is g. edward griffen - a world without cancer.

>>271379
hey, we're talking percentages, not number of people dying. The percentage increased. I do agree more shit is likely to happen the older you get, and especially here. Like an exponential curve or something. And cancer is much more likely as you get older. But do check out my reference, I'm not making it up out of my ass.

The hunta all die old cancer-free. so I just try to copy them as best I can.
>> Anonymous
>>271150
Thank you anon
>> Anonymous
>>271539

hell naw, pussies are the easiest things to fuck.
>> Anonymous
i am an occasional milk drinker. sometimes i go a long time without drinking it but i like it.
>> Anonymous
>>271539
>because people hate mating with pussies

only fags like you don't like fucking pussy.
>> Anonymous
>>269754
So you guys are trying to tell me that you don't eat any milk product?
Like chocolate, cheese, yougurt, bread?
>> Anonymous
And i forgot butter.
>> Anonymous
>>269754
BUT MILK MAN, MIIILLLLKKKK!
>> Anonymous
>>271565
Is that the same fucker who talks about curing every disease with vitamin d and calcium?

According to this dude the FDA is lying to us about nutrients to better serve the drug companies. He said we'd need to take the equivalent of 4 bottles of calcium bottles to get the needed dosage of calcium or whatever vitamin per day because what they give in vitamins is so insignificant.

The people in the himalayas and japan all are near high sources of Calcium, Coral for Japan and it was white muddy water from the rocks in the himalays.

He wanted like some kind of money for the books, fuck that noise. Anyone know what to do if this is true? He claimed the shit would cure degenerative diseases even.
>> Anonymous
>>270013

Soy milk
>> Anonymous
I used to drink a half-gallon a day and had quite good strength gains, but i reduced it to about 2.5 cups a day after getting scared by all the negative hype. I also used to drink a quarter gallon of soy milk per day but reduced that to just a cup also because of negative hype.
>> Anonymous
>>271600

I stopped eating meat and consuming milk products a year ago. The only difference I have noticed is fewer stomach/digestive problems and more energy.
>> Anonymous
>>272684
Why don't people recognize these simple benefits?
>> Anonymous
>>272684
So wtf do you eat?

Soy shit? No eggs, no cheese?
>> Anonymous
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Nothing is wrong with milk. Just American milk.

Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZkDikRLQrw

tl;dw : Enjoy your hormone filled toxic milk.

<3 bagged Canadian milk.
>> Anonymous
>>272820
maybe because these benefits don't exist for most people
>> Miranda Priestly !!8x4V+z9rg4V
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Oh my sweet holy Jesus! I fucking love milk so much!
I start craving it if I go a day without it. :3

... but I'm still scrawny. ;_;
>> Anonymous
This thread made me thirsty.

I'm going to get a glass of milk.
>> Anonymous
I am not even a vegetarian or anything, but the idea of drinking something that came out of another animal's body is just gross. So I drink soymilk.

I know, it doesn't make any sense. I will eat animals but not their by products. It might just be a phase, I suppose. I used to be too freaked out by eggs to eat those, but I got over it.

This time however, I replaced milk with soy milk. It's a bit more expensive but I enjoy it a lot more and the Silk Very Vanilla is just delicious :D

Isn't it kind of weird that every other mammal weens it's young while we continue to consume dairy products? It just seems kind of unnatural that we think it's necessary to get nutrients from milk.
>> Anonymous
>>272977
enjoy your tits
>> Anonymous
>>272977

Yeah, I agree about the weening thing. I just find it gross, so I don't drink milk. But I don't like soymilk either, so...
>> Anonymous
>>272982
I do enjoy my tits, thank you :D
>> Anonymous
Most of the problems related to milk are in its fat. Skim Milk is basically the water of the gods: Better tasting, tons of benefits, extremely lean source of complete protein, and is low in calories. What's not to like?
>> Anonymous
>>272977

seriously, soy milk made in america is horrible for you....its not made right. just get organic milk instead


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as for the halitosis/phlegm....what the fuck is they talking about? i been drinking milk since i was born and i never had these problems. fuck my whole family drinks milk and our breath and mouth are completly fine.
>> Anonymous
ok after reading all these dumb fucks argue the real answer why milk is bad for you is because it is high in saturated fat and if you look @ calories from fat its like 60-70%

so fatfree milk is good but it tastes like shit and is too watery

thats y milk sucks

now shaaddap
>> Anonymous
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....you people/
>> Anonymous
>>273070
Considering milk is an emulsion of fats and water, what the fuck is "fat free" milk lol.
>> Anonymous
>>269778

He's right you know. If you must have milk, drink goat milk, it's a bit closer to human milk and has more of the enzymes that human milk has over cows.
>> Anonymous
>>272859
I fart a lot after I drink milk so
>> Anonymous
milk is great
>> Anonymous
Just stepping in to remind you all that you're underage, and if you're not I feel bad for the human race.

Thanks.
>> Anonymous
Milk ~= osteoporosis
http://www.news-medical.net/?id=13120
http://www.thechinastudy.com/la-timesarticle.html
tl;dr: there's a strong correlation between a region's milk consumption and osteoperosis.

Find me a study to the contrary that isn't sponsored by the dairy industry and I'll have a look, because I'm not a closed-minded faggot.

There's also some strong anecdotal evidence to suggest that some people get acne from dairy (organic or otherwise), as I've heard a lot of people have had it clear up after cutting their dairy consumption for a few months. Doesn't work for some people that've tried it though.

However, I drink some milk still because:
1 - Cereal
2 - Cooking (it's in too many things, and no way am I going to ruin it by substituting water when I make it)
3 - [Whole] milk is delicious
4 - These studies only seem to show a correlation in women anyway
5 - Proteins (namely casein)
6 - Not like I drink all that much anyway, water's exponentially cheaper

Might have a look at goat's milk though, sounds expensive though.
>> Anonymous
>>271228

Yes they are.
>> Anonymous
Milk inhibits muscle growth.

Faggots.

The only reason we hear all this good stuff about milk is because the dairy industry is so huge.
>> Anonymous
>>273213
I love it when faggots get all preachy here, then don't even begin to substantiate their claims with any sources or even half-assed explanation.
>> Anonymous
>>273226
Alright penis breath.
http://www.notmilk.com/

Choose a fucking topic. Look at the evidence.
>> Anonymous
If milk was as bad as people are saying in this thread it wouldn't be fit for human consumption and would be b%
>> Anonymous
>>273236
Trans fat is undeniably much, much worse than even the most negative viewpoint on milk, and it's still perfectly legal in most cases.
>> Anonymous
>>273239
So let's take one over the other right? WRONG
>> Anonymous
>>273240
That's not even close to my point and you know it, dumbass.
>> Anonymous
>>273247
WRONG
>> Anonymous
milk, eggs and meat. i could live off those three things alone so delicious
>> Anonymous
>>273259
enjoying shitting bricks bitch
>> Anonymous
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Made by bees, for bees.
>> Anonymous
>>273275
BUT IT TASTES SO DELICIOUS RITE
therefore we can consume it like however we want to

just don't give to newborns
>> Anonymous
>>272684
how do you do it?
>> Anonymous
>>272837
I've watched that movie. It talks about how corporations display psychotic behavior in no regard for feelings, if analyzed like a thinking person. And they been granted powers to be treated as law as a person. the whole movie is just like that segment, if you like that get it.
>> Anonymous
>>269896
enjoy your male breast cancer
>> Anonymous
Orange juice is better.
>> CancerIsAvoidableFag
>>272484
I don't know. maybe?
>> Anonymous
>>271467

Yes we get all of our protein from soy. Fucking idiot.

Scrawny vegans don't know how to eat, and fat ones think they can fucking eat nuts and chocolate all goddamned day.
>> Anonymous
soy turns you into a women, enjoy your estrogen vegan fags.
http://www.t-nation.com/readArticle.do?id=459516
>> Anonymous
Yes, we all know that the US meat/dairy industry does not have the greatest standards in the world, which impacts the quality of the food we eat. But this does not mean that milk or meat itself is unhealthy, nor does it mean that american products are detrimental to your health. Our body was designed to consume everything (hence, omnivores), the fat content quickly becomes irrelevant when you have a highly active lifestyle, and we were not born to stay in a bubble, protected from foreign contents in our air, food, water, etc.
>> Anonymous
>>273322
yes it does.
Garbage in, garbage out.
>> Anonymous
>>273337

why do i get the feeling its the same veganfag attacking everyone in this thread?
>> Anonymous
>>273344
you're so rght
>> Anonymous
Personally, nothing i read in this thread will change my viewpoint. I can only speak from personal experience, and you can come up with sensationalist claims for any argument. Yeah, i drink atleast 1/2 a galon of milk a day. I also lift like a beast and am healthy as a horse, in b4 prostate cancer and all that other bullshit.
>> Anonymous
>>273357
DO IT FAGGOT
>> Anonymous
>>273319

Yes all Asian men have turned into women, which is exactly why there are billions of them.

There aren't any definitive studies.

There have been studies showing that soy lowers testosterone, doesn't have nay effect of testosterone, and even increases testosterone in men.

I've read the studies, and honestly I'd rather trust that soy has been eaten for ages and hasn't fucked those regions.
>> Anonymous
>>270903

As to cancer never occurring in nature, I direct you to this link.

http://elegans.uky.edu/blog/?p=21

>>271394

As a matter of fact there is quite a bit of data on cancer pre 1900s, I can't remember the exact link but there's a database online of various pathological conditions diagnosed from remains. Bone cancers do show up.

And I have seen some fucking MONSTER tumors on pre-Columbian skeletons in the New World.
>> Anonymous
>>273377

the reason why cancer dosent show up much in the wild is because wild animals dont survive to the point where it is pronounced, being quickly culled by the magic that is natural selection, or die naturally before "naturally occurring" cancer can develop.
>> Anonymous
>>273380

I agree, I was directing the previous poster to a site that list articles detailing occurrences of cancer in wild animals.
>> Anonymous
Read, Eat right for your type.
Its a book based on diets for blood types. according to the book, O's should avoid dairy the most, while B blood types thrive on it. not a bad theory tho' I'm sure there are many other factors like allergens, etc.
>> Anonymous
>>273393

the most bullshit thing ive ever heard
>> really? Anonymous
>>273405

I've found the book to be a big help with my excema problems, i cut out the weat and the dairy from my diet (for the most part) switched to eating only the foods in my blood type bracket, and low and behold my excema dissapeared in days. I'm not saying it works for everyone, but it sure did the trick for me. There just may be something to the 'lectin' argument. regardless of if you believe it to be tripe or not. valid opinion anyway.
>> Anonymous
>>273380
how athletic can you be with the cancerous tumor growing? even a benign one
>> Anonymous
During my bulking phases I drink a 4 litre of 2% a day.

I feel great.
>> CancerIsAvoidableFag
>>273377
thanks. I'll read over it tonight. but really i guess there are no old animals in nature, only old humans. we are truly freaks of nature. gotta work now. anymore links come up because of this response I just created an anonymous e-mail. back tonight.
>> Anonymous
>>273427

thats kinda the point, animals that form tumors in the wild are quickly culled, and this whole milk = cancer bullshit is rediculous.
>> Anonymous
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>>273435

>rediculous
>> Anonymous
>>273438
Spelling nazi detected.
>> Anonymous
>>269774
dude with that logic, what makes milk any different from, say, an apple, which was made by apple trees for apple trees
>> Anonymous
>>273440
Internet toughguy detected.
>> Anonymous
>>269892
brush your motherfucking teeth
>> Anonymous
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>>273442
You have to be kidding me. Troll suspected.
>> Anonymous
>>270013
mootopia fat free milk
organic, added protein, less sugar, no lactose, no fat ALMOST PURE MOTHERFUCKING PROTEIN
>> Anonymous
>>273443

You might have been right if i said stop sitting in front of the computer and criticizing peoples spelling and go do some fucking squats you vegan faggot.
>> Anonymous
>>271565
Hunza's life expectancy is a myth...the average life expectancy is FIFTYFUCKINGTHREE with a large standard deviation, as opposed to MOTHERFUCKINGSEVENTYSOMETHING in the US with a smaller standard deviation
>> Anonymous
I'm a starter, I'm drinking 1L of milk and 1 can of tuna daily.

I'm going to die? maybe, but at least I'll leave a beautiful corpse not like you vegan fags.

Choke on a carrot and die.
>> Anonymous
milk did 9/11
>> Anonymous
>>273442

troll or not troll, I lol'd.

srsly
>> Anonymous
>>273455
Internet idiot detected.

Anon is not vegan.
>> Anonymous
>>273461
You wish you could choke on a carrot. At least they have nutrition, unlike what you choked on last night. *coughyourdad'speniscough*
>> Anonymous
>>273477

I had 4 tuna sandwiches and my dad's cock is delicious and way more healthy than living out of vegetables
>> Anonymous
>>273486
>living out of vegetables
Stupid wording is stupid.
>> Anonymous
>>273493

butthurt anon is butthurt
>> Anonymous
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>>273496
Actually, I think this is what is making your butt hurt.
>> Anonymous
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>>269933
>heavy metal poisoning
>> Anonymous
Why is everyone getting all worked up over people not wanting to drink milk? If they don't want to, that's their decision. Milk itself isn't all that bad. It is odd that humans consume the lactic fluid of another animal well into their adult life. My issue with it is the way it is produced, the mistreatment of animals, the heavy use of hormones on the animals. In short, if I had a cow, I might drink its milk, but I don't want to drink the run off of some drugged up, over pumped teat.
>> Anonymous
Will you butthurt vegan faggots die already? god you don't have to have aids to look like you have aids anymore just be a pussy and be a vegan.

Now go search wikipedia for some "truth" articles that suit you only.


EVERY VEGAN I KNOW IS A SCRAWNY LITTLE BITCH WITH NO MUSCLE, dont make me fucking prove it by posting my friends picture, he thinks hes really healthy and acts like a fucking douche when i drink milk and eat meat.


I KICKED HIS ASS
>> Anonymous
This logic astounds me. People have been thriving on these qualities for centuries.

Is this another one of those SUPERIOR TECHNOLOGY FUCK THE NATURAL WORLD things? I mean yes farmers inject hormones and shit in their cows then just go organic.

I mean any diet that FORCES you to eat supplements (vegans can't get all their necessary vitamins and such through vegetables only) is suspect. It's a byproduct of the tech boom and in fact is even more unnatural than drinking milk.

You guys are all about taking pills and eating concentrated protein shakes but you don't drink milk? Not saying to drink a fucking gallon everyday but swearing it off due to "WILL CAUSE CANCER!" is damn near asinine.
>> Anonymous
MILK IS GOOD FOR YOU.
FUCK, ANYONE HEARD OF PASTURIZATION?
AND WHAT DOESN'T HAVE FECES ON IT? NEWSFLASH: IF YOU CAN SMELL FECES, IT'S GETTING INTO YOUR BODY. THERE ARE MICROPARTICLES OF FECES ALL AROUND YOU, ON EVERYTHING YOU TOUCH, AND YES, ON YOUR TOOTHBRUSH.
EVERYTHING HAS HORMONES IN IT AND THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING.
MILK IS AN EXCELLENT SOURCE OF VITAMINS, AND ALL THE MACRONUTRIENTS.
VIRUSES DIE WHEN PASTEURIZATION HAPPENS, AND IT'S NOT LIKE WE GET OUR MILK FROM FUCKING WILD RANDOM BOVIDS WE FIND IN THE FUCKING FOREST.
>> Anonymous
So... what about soy milk?
>> Anonymous
>>273672
soy increases estrogen and lowers brain function.
>> Anonymous
>>273663
/thread
>> Anonymous
>>273694
lowers brain function of people over 65.
>> Anonymous
>>273694
okay is it bad for women? How is estrogen production bad for us?
>> Anonymous
>>273750
Inject yourself with a ton of estrogen to find out.
>> got hypocracy? pic unrelated Anonymous
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>>269848
she's such a self-rightous child. she's against eating meat (not matter how it's raised), but then she support milk. Peta hates anything animal related, so of course they're gonna drop their support of her asap.
>> Anonymous
the ability to process milk into adulthood is one of the best mutations the human race ever had. it's high in calories, unsaturated fat, protein, vitamans and shit like that, and you can fucking drink it.
>> 636363
If it ain't fucked with me yet, then why stop?
>> Anonymous
Milk isn't BAD for you per se. But there's better things you can be drinking. If you like it then by all means, but don't say it's the best damn thing ever. Orange juice is better in my opinion. Less fat (with the exception of skim I believe), more calcium (if added, but they're new campaign to oust milk makes it so every fucking carton has added calcium), potassium, and other vitamins. OJ is higher in sugar however, so if you're a diabetic I'd assume milk would be the better choice.

If you're gonna drink milk, drink soy milk.
>> Anonymous
>>273840
no, fuck you, Im gonna go drink a glass of cows milk, sucked from it teat. heated, and put in a plastic bottle full, none of this half assed shit. Ill eat butter by the ounce, buckets of cheese, fucking slurp down cream, condensed cream, hell yeah...
>> Thing X is bad for your health
All of you are going to die. Get over it.

You can get cancer from everything except dying.

The U.S. government and people puts toxins and shit in everything. Including the air. Stop living in the U.S.

The human species consists of animals. ANIMALS. In all respects. EVERYTHING the majority of the individuals of a species of animals does is considered "natural". This means that most of the shit the human species do is NATURAL FOR FUCK'S SAKE!
>> Anonymous
>>271565
Yes we do
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta_stone

>>269978
AMAGHAD! People who evolved differently have differently evolutionary traits!

P.S. There are just as many sorces that say it's a myth and the average life is 53 years
P.P.S explain why plants and trees can get cancer
P.P.P.S also explain why animals can get cancer

Fruit is made by trees for spreading dna, eating it will make you explode
Meat is made for animals to live, eating it will give you tramp aids
Water isn't made to carry around minerals, having water in your body will only let cancerous minerals access your BRAIN!!!1111111!111

Drink organic milk and not processed shit.
NEVER drink soy milk it bad for you.
Don't drink american produce milk, there's a reason most brands are banded in other countries.
>> Anonymous
Our bodies aren't designed to consume milk later on in life, but we have made it so. As you age, your body produces less lactase, making it harder to digest lactose. But people (Americans in particular, I believe) continue to consume milk much, much later into their lives. I don't know why.

Personally, I developed intolerance when I was about 16. Also the realization that I was drinking something made for infant cows started to freak me out. I only use milk for cooking, and if I want some cheese or ice cream, I pop a lactose pill and then stuff my face.
>> Anonymous
>>273953
>Our bodies aren't designed to consume milk later on in life, but we have made it so.
Holy fuck, nobody has DESIGNED our bodies. You believe in God, don't you, fucker? If it doesn't kill you or shorten your lifetime more than living in the U.S. (which milk clearly doesn't) it DOES NOT MATTER!
>> Anonymous
Don't listen to the vegan fags and drink soy milk(not good for at all) and drink cows milk. The milk that helped my grandmother live to the ripe old age of 105, the milk that helps keep my mothers bones strong and the milk that helps keep me muscular.
>> Anonymous
I love milk. Sure, take away my meat, I don't care so much.

But. Don't. Fucking. Touch. My. Milk.
>> Anonymous
>>269860
This is my entire view on eating. If I like it, I eat it and just work it off.
>> Anonymous
>>273982

as if there's some vast conspiracy to stop you from drinking milk. nobody cares. get over yourself.
>> Anonymous
THE DOSE IS THE POISON, AS GOES WITH EVERYTHING FUCKING ELSE.
MODERATION = GOODNESS.

EVERYONE STFU AND GTFO.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO HOME, BUT YOU CAN'T STAY HERE.

ALSO, SUCK MY DICK.
>> Anonymous
Milk tastes good. And here in Norway, everyone drinks milk.
>> Anonymous
dick tastes good. And here in Norway, everyone sucks dick.
>> Anonymous
>>274070

"Much of the world's population does not consume cow's milk, and yet most of the world does not experience the high rates of osteoporosis found in the West. In some Asian countries, for example, where consumption of dairy foods is low, fracture rates are far lower than they are in the United States and in Scandinavian countries, where consumption of dairy products is high."

http://www.milksucks.com/osteo.asp
>> CancerIsAvoidableFag
>>273456
the source I posted says "it's not uncommon" for the Hunzakuts to live beyond a 100 and even up to 120 years at ~12:50 in google video, just when they're being introduced for a minute.

so in other words is a dressed up way of saying "some" or "few" or "rarely". I did not catch this until now. Now a more complete picture is displayed with your Wikipedia snippet. A median or average age of 53 and a few people reaching 100+ can both happen at the same time. I don't really care that the source is NYTimes or not, plausibly these facts fit very well together.

my points have been refuted to my satisfaction. I do not need to pursue it anymore. I apologize for renewing this thread with vitality that it just keeps going. I'm going to do the right thing now, and let the thing die. I'll shut the hell up now.

thx for the talk
>> Anonymous
>>269754

because I don't get my health tips from paid off celebrities in dairy industry advertisements in chick magazines.
>> Anonymous
>>274125
/thread

that's not milk on her face anyway...
>> Anonymous
>>274097
"Of 700 elderly Indonesians, those who ate tofu at least once a day had an increased risk of dementia or memory loss..."
http://health.msn.com/health-topics/alzheimers-disease/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100212805&
GT1=31003
>> Anonymous
>>274097
>Today’s mother cows are treated like milk machines–chained by their necks in concrete stalls for months at a time

Vegan bullshit.
>> Anonymous
>>274132

sigh.... who the fuck mentioned tofu? Do not assume that lack of milk consumption makes anon a tofu eating vegan. I've never eaten tofu in my life and I eat meat too for that matter, though sporadically. The subject is milk, that calcium leaching, puss-filled, phlegm producing secretion of cow tits with which you are so enamored.
>> Anonymous
You don't need as much milk as you think, or as much as the industry tells you to drink. Remember they care little about your health, they just want to push a product on you. Not too long ago cigarette manufacturers were hiring doctors to tell you that smoking was an expectorant and kept your lungs healthy.
>> Anonymous
Anyone ever notice that the foods different people eat affect their body odor?

Indians smell like curry
Japs smell like fish
Mediterraneans smell like rotting meat
Americans smell like rotten milk
>> Anonymous
All I know is I drink a gallon a day.
>> Anonymous
I hate Darigold. That shit gives me so much gas and cramps compared to the regular store brand stuff.
>> Knitting Kneedle !C2eJJPwS7M
You're all really fucking retarded.
>> Anonymous
>>274168
and europeans smell like shit

any others we've forgotten?
>> Anonymous
>>273637
>I KICKED HIS ASS
don't know why but I lol'd