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Anonymous
Can someone explain to me why guys think girls want muscular guys?

I think guys who care that much are either gay or conceited.
>> Anonymous
GTFO fatfaggot
>> Anonymous
>>28166
Fatchick, but close enough, queerbait.
>> Anonymous
Its called evolution, you fat retard.

Why WOULD a girl want a skinnyassbitch or a fat bastard? Its called protection provided by muscle.

Denial is not just a river in egypt. You are just jealous that you arent fit.
>> Anonymous
>>28170
That's such a load of shit. Girls don't need to be protected. Not a single girl worth a damn wants a meathead.
>> Anonymous
>>28163
Because guys know they prefer women who aren't blobs of fat (and men too, I suppose). Logically, women would have a similar preference. Except that they're nuts, but sometimes we overlook that.
>> Anonymous
Its not always about muscle but muscular guys to them look really good in comparison to skinny counterparts.
>> Anonymous
Hey guys, why do men prefer women with big breasts and a nice ass and child bearing hips, etc????

Learn yourself some natural selection, dumbfuck.
>> Anonymous
>>28163
Or maybe they want to be healthy, not wanting to be a fat blob of shit or not wanting to be a skinny fuck doesn't make you conceited. Just because you want guys to look at your fat ass and say "i like her because she is not conceited". Taking pride in you personal apperance is nothing to be ashamed of. Wanting to be as healthy as possible is not being conceited
>> Anonymous !gcPYFYeItk
Easy chicks who just want to get fucked prefer HOTT GUISE. Everyone else prefers personality, no matter what the guy looks like.
>> Anonymous
Ugh don't speak for all girls you fatty. I for one like guys with muscle and I'm fairly certain every single one of my friends do as well. Sure skinny guys can look pretty cute, but I think I'd feel self conscious about my weight if my boyfriend and I had the same body type.
>> Skeletor !KlN/UtJkvo
Gee, I dunno...maybe cuz they swoon when a well built guy in a movie takes their shirt off? Maybe because they buy calendars full of muscular shirtless guys? You think these could be hints?
>> Anonymous
>>28163

Attraction is genetics working through your subconcious. Generally people are attracted to healthy individuals. What do you think looks more healthy in your opinion: muscly buffed guy or a sack of fat?

It's not rocket science to work it out.
>> Anonymous
>>28188

Wow, which reality are you from, because it certainly isnt mine
>> Anonymous
Girls want to loose weight, we call them insecure, men want to get buff and thats manly?
>> Anonymous
It's simple evolutionary psychology, fit guys can better take care of a possible child, be it physical protection, or being able to do work for the family, or simply STAY ALIVE.

Fat guys dont get the girls because they are unhealthy, and have a higher change of passing their unhealthy traits onto their children, or even dropping dead before the child is able to take care of itself.
>> Anonymous
>>28176
WARNING:
Obese femnazi detected!
AVOID AT ALL COSTS.
>> Anonymous
>>28221
Meatheads are too busy working out to take care of kids.
>> Anonymous
>>28181
well, /fit/ prefers non-blobs of fat. post muscular women in /s/ and your nuts will be put through the wringer.
>> Anonymous
>>28225
Post anything other than an anorexic in /s/ and they man the harpoons.
>> Anonymous
>>28224

Your own meathead subconcious mind doesnt know that.

When children are involved, our minds devolve into the level cavemen/women. Just a simple fact of life.

Logical thought doesnt come into it.
>> Anonymous
>>28227
Woah, woah, woah, don't get us involved in that child rearing shit, they'll start expecting us to help.
>> Anonymous
>>28193
why do they swoon then? Envy? It's imbalanced that women can averagely develop muscle at a slower rate and ... less total?

>>28222
and STFU. Talk nicer. This board has been much more polite since we opened it up, averagely.
>> Anonymous
I really can't say I've seen anything other than a shallow overdone skank swoon over muscluar guys.

Besides skinny guys have bigger dicks.
>> boneration !7k4hwAY0ew
I've never met a fat chick that didn't profess to find muscular men undesirable. It's a bit like the sour grapes fable; they can't ever attract a decent-looking man, so they convince themselves they don't want one and proclaim thusly at every opportunity. The only other type of person that I have seen regularly bitch about muscular men are hipster douchebags, and much like fatties, their opinions are not worth shit.

Here's why guys think girls want muscular guys, OP. Go out on a walk. I know, it's hard. Trust me. Look around. See all the good looking girls? The ones you wish you could look like? Notice how few of them are with obese men? Notice how few of them are with scrawny boneracks? In general, the more attractive the woman, the fitter the boyfriend. The reverse is also true. Fat broads get fat guys. Guys see this, and, not wanting to chuck their dong up some porkita for the rest of their life, they endeavor to improve.

Trust me on this. Though it will never happen to you, OP, if a fit and muscular man ever tried to get in your pants, you'd jump at the opportunity, no matter what bullshit you spew now about personality and conceit. Luckily, fit men don't go after fat broads, so you won't have to engage in any cognitive dissonance reduction.
>> Anonymous
>>28239
>>Besides skinny guys have bigger dicks.

And usually bigger balls.
The 'roids tend to shrink em in the meathead thugs.
>> Anonymous
>>28246
Yeah, OP, I weight 130, so save your intended attacks about being obese. Anything over 105 is fat by todays standards.
>> Anonymous
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Hooraay steroids!!!!
>> Anonymous
Guys want hot girls.
Girls want hot guys.
Muscles are hot, simple as that.
>> Anonymous
From an evolutionary perspective, it makes perfect sense that fit males are desirable over unfit males.

No one has mentioned yet, though, that you don't have to be 'muscular' (whatever the fuck that stupid word means) to be fit. Some people are ectomorphs; that doesn't mean ectomorphs can't work out and be fit. They may never look like Stone Cold Steve Austin, but plenty of hot, hot girls will find them attractive because they're fit.

Girls don't care about the size of the muscles, they care about the proportion of muscles to your body type. If you're thin, you're not expected to have biceps that are 400 inches in diameter.

Guys: bench press, squat, do lunges, bicep curls, push-ups, resistance row, and do at least a half hour of cardio EVERY DAY (a whole hour of cardio is preferable.) Don't worry about anything else; if you do this, your body will take care of itself, and hot wimminz will want your cawk. Also, gtfo jealous fat bitches.
>> Anonymous
I'm personally trying to be fit because of these. However, I also want to be fit because I can't imagine having a flab of a stomach for the rest of my life.

I don't know, I never liked fat girls because they aren't disciplined even to control their binges. What more would they do if ever there'll be children? Eat him up alive? Fit men, and fit girls as well, signify discipline. It's something that is sought of nowadays when people just give in to their whims. A man of decision (or a woman at that) is someone who is reliable enough to be useful at the very least.
>> Juggy
>>28170
From a purely physical point of view, fitness and muscularity represent superior genes, and women are attracted to this because it would ensure the genes are passed on and the increased survivability of their children.

>>28239
This only makes sense in relation to fat vs. skinny. Fatter people have fat deposits covering the base of their shaft so it appears smaller. Skinny/fit guys have visually large dicks cause more of it isn't covered by fat.
>> Anonymous
>>28230
>and STFU. Talk nicer. This board has been much more polite since we opened it up, averagely.
>Talk nicer. This board has been much more polite since we opened it up, averagely.
>nicer. This board has been much more polite since we opened it up,
>nicer. polite.
>> Anonymous
>>28252
>>28239
God you two are stupid, they just look like they have bigger dicks because there's nothing surrounding them. A fat fuck with a huge dick won't look it because it's all tucked away.
>> Anonymous
>>28305
Comparing lanky guys to muscular guys? No, lanky guys have bigger dicks.
>> Anonymous
>>28309

Source?
>> Anonymous
>>28313
Fucking lanky guys.
>> Anonymous
>>28309
Yeah if he's popping steroids like candy. Being muscular doesn't make your dick smaller though, god some people are stupid as hell.
>> Anonymous
>>28309
As Schwarzenegger used to say "everything is proportional."

And you can find pictures of his wang if you look.
>> Anonymous
Everyone saying "from an evolutionary perspect", ehh... I don't know how much I'm buying that. Cultural ideals of what's deemed attractive and unattractive are so different between both location and history. So I don't think that you can say that it's completely genetics and natural selection that determines why women want guys with big muscles. I think that women would rather have a guy who's intelligent, caring, and financially stable over a guy with a good body because it's just easier to raise a family and spend your life with the former. The latter might be a good fuck and some arm candy, but that's about it.

So screw the genetics thing. I go with the belief that it's all media. Media tells us what's attractive and what's not attractive because that's what we've been exposed to since we were in diapers. So if anything, it is psychological in the fact that it's conditioning. Fit people = beautiful and that's just how the western views are.

I'm female and I find huge muscles disgusting, especially when veins are sticking out. When a guy shows me his massive biceps and flexes and things are popping out, it's just... ughhh, no. Toned is nice and if I find a guy I like who's trim and fit, then that's just a bonus. But personallly, for me it all comes down to personality. I want a guy who's motivated, sweet, decent face, can hold a conversation, and loves me.
>> Juggy
>>28368
Obviously there are other factors. We're just looking at this from the PHYSICAL point of view, being that we're taking about muscularity, and that this is a fitness board.
>> Ottawanon !IBb/Agf/0M
OP actually speaks some truth. Girls are attracted to fatties because they can then get fat themselves.

Of course if you don't want a fat bitch this doesn't apply.
>> Anonymous
All girls want different things. Hell, some like skinny but not muscular with a little bit of flab. Others are chubby chasers. Haven't you seen The King of Queens?
>> Anonymous
Its the arbitrary role that masculinity plays in a mans life. We are socialized to think that being a man is being HUEG like an xbox! being a internet TOUGH guy! But in reality this has nothing to do with what being a biological male is really about. Men today now have this ridiculous standard to live up to, it makes it so easy to hurt their egos because of this, Masculinity if fragile, the slightest insult to one manhood destroy their ego and that why "manily men" always fight. Not because they are tough, but they are mentally weak. If you have a dick and balls, you are a man. Everything else changes with society. Fight masculinity, it makes men weak and stupid.

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>> Anonymous
I don't give a flying fuck what women want or not. I just want to be healthy and happy about how I look.
>> Hymn !vrSageNKA2
People have different opinions on attractiveness of males, some like lean sculpted look, and some like meaty bulky muscles, some like fatasses for some reason. Why are you pushing your opinions on other people.
>> Anonymous
>>28399
Actually, I think this is a discussion about women being attracted to muscular guys, not muscularity in general. Also, people are bringing in viewpoints other than just PHYSICAL (please note the capitalization). So even though this is just a fitness board perhaps there can be more of a discussion than sixty threads all about "HOW DOES I GAIN/LOSE WEIGHT". But if you want a discussion on muscularity, then fine:

Huge muscles are sort of weird, imo. Steroid abusers have tiny testes and acne, which is gross. Toned and fit is nice, imho.
>> Anonymous
honestly, a lot of girls want a guy with a nice face

sometimes muscles can distract from a good face, and so can fatness. more girls go for the average, maybe slightly chubby or thin, body on a guy than you would think
(sorry for the bad english)
>> Anonymous
This looks amazingly like a pro-ana thread, just change the words from ridiculously thin to muscular & it's the same damned thing.
>> Anonymous
>>28368

Media is about 100 years old. Your natural instincts are few millions years old. Chubby, slinky or buff, it's all about your genetics choosing through your subconscious mind what kinda guy you'd prefer to make babies with. You are able to prefer a fat ass over a healthy guy, but that's your right as a human. I still say women generally would prefer a healthy body over a disgustingly fat one. And I am right about that.
>> Juggy !tr.t4dJfuU
>>28423
I was just stressing the physical aspect because it should be a given that there are always going to be other factors involved in attractiveness, but all other factors being the same, the fit guy is going to be more attractive that the unfit guy.

i.e. if you have two different guys, and they're both motivated, sweet, have a decent face, able to hold a conversation, and loves you, but one is fat and out of shape, and the other is fit and lean, who do you think you're going to find more attractive?

Also, huge muscles and steroids are weird and unnatural, but they're also the extreme. Most guys prefer skinny to overweight, but that doesn't mean we want an anorexic chick.
>> Anonymous
ITT: TROLLS
>> Anonymous
>>28431

With that said. As a guy I'd prefer for myself to only look healthy for my height. In nice shape and energetic and all that crap. I couldn't give a shit about being huge. I think steroid abusing guys (or synthol injecters) don't look good in any way. They're big and that's all there is to it. They look like he-man dolls to me or some shit liek that.
>> Anonymous
>>28431
Media might be only be 100 years old, but cultural influence is thousands of years old. How else do you explain that at some points in history paleness was attractive while in other parts tan was preferred. In some cultures fat women are preferred and in others thin women are more beautiful. Some cultures like muscular men, some like thin men, and some like fat men.

Humans are 99.9% genetically similar, yet not all humans find the same body shape attractive. Just because we like fit mates and the neanderthal liked fit mates doesn't make it encoded in us.
>> Anonymous
>>28431
>>just... ughhh, no

You can't reason someone out of a position they never reasoned themselves into. ~quote from Johnathan swift
>> Anonymous
>>28246
that was beautiful
>> Anonymous
Just a few things: wanting to be as healthy and strong as possible doesn't make you gay or conceited.

Regardless of how you personally feel there is a standard of beauty that most (not all) woman agree to and they tend to have muscles or at least in some kind of shape. So of course men want to look like that.

skinny dudes don't have bigger dicks they just look bigger on there girly frame.

And OP is a fat lesbian
>> Anonymous
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In times of plenty, tiny, skinnier people are preferred...possibly because it shows health (you are capable of making good choices in a world saturated with unhealthy stuff).

In times of famine, fat people are preferred because it shows that they are more capable of coping with famine.

Most everybody in here is probably in the "times of plenty" category, relatively speaking, so we'll all naturally prefer skinniness. As for muscular vs. unmuscular...

..."muscular" is probably being interpreted in vastly different ways by the participants of this thread. Those who say they dislike it are probably thinking of this picture as an example. Those who say they like it are probably picturing an Olympic swimmer or something.
>> Anonymous
>>28270If you're thin, you're not expected to have biceps that are 400 inches in diameter.
If you've got biceps 400 inches in diameter, you're not thin.
>> BOwen !i7E4yRzZEQ
If you've got biceps 400 inches in diameter, holy fucking shit.
>> pieisgood !!x2uBMaeTnsQ
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lol, fatty
>> Anonymous
>>28368

So culture deems some physical traits to be advantagous/desirable and it becomes evil?

What you want to say is that _COMMERCIALIZATION_ of these things seem to make traits of the body exaggerated and thus favorable.
But remember next time you're putting on lipgloss and painting your eye lids think about the page you read on cosmo which says "How to make yourself pretty in 10 easy ways" just block all logic to your brain. Everyone loves a ignorant hypocrite for them shit on.
>> Juggy !tr.t4dJfuU
>>28533
lol fuckin' saved
>> Anonymous
>>28368
>Everyone saying "from an evolutionary perspect", ehh... I don't know how much I'm buying that. Cultural ideals of what's deemed attractive and unattractive are so different between both location and history.
Cultural conditioning has an effect, but it is only secondary. Where do you think the media gets its ideas from? Do they just sit down and think "HURR LET'S BRAINWASH EVERYONE INTO THINKING THAT MUSCULAR GUYS ARE HAWT"? Cultural ideals aren't created, they come from the instinctive ideals we already have.

>I think that women would rather have a guy who's intelligent, caring, and financially stable over a guy with a good body because it's just easier to raise a family and spend your life with the former. The latter might be a good fuck and some arm candy, but that's about it.
That is completely irrelevant to the argument. The argument is that that if you have two people of equal intelligence and overall personality, the fitter one would be genetically superior. And remember that going after a good personality is also a part of natural selection. If natural selection didn't favor intelligence, we'd still be living in caves.

And it should also be noted that you can be too muscular. When you start getting to muscular that it has negative effects on your health, women will find you unattractive. So don't use this to argue that muscles in general are unattractive, most things are unpleasant without moderation.
>> Anonymous
Muscular males are meat heads? Since when?

I can speak several languages and I work as a researcher in a university. Judging by the current norms, I'm far above the average, what concerns either intelligence or physique.
>> Anonymous
>>28413
my thoughts too, basically
>> Anonymous
Small Guys: Having that much muscle doesn't make you a man. You're an idiot. That much muscle is gross and impractical.

Big Guys: Small guys are just too lazy to get this big.

Moderate Build: I don't want to be any bigger, I want to stay athletic. Small guys are too lazy to get this ripped.

Consensus - Small guys are too fucking lazy. haha!

In all seriousness, everyone hates those that have achieved more than them, really. Part of the reason small guys hate big guys is because the small guys wish they were bigger. And big guys think of themselves as better because the small guys dont work as hard as they do.

Blaming genetics is a cop out - google Lee Priest and have him talk to you about genetics.

True Fact - A non-steroid enhanced muscular physique has been the most preferred physique on males sense the dawn of time, as it implies health and virility.

Sorry fatties and skinny guys - work towards muscle.
>> Anonymous
The fact that some men prefer thin girls and some like more curved women (not fat, but breasts, hips, etc.) seems obvious. It seems nonsense to suggest that all women like the same basic body type, aside from the obvious rejections of obese men. Then again, if you ask a board about "Fitness" whether or not women like fit men, you shouldn't be surprised when a thousand voices cry out that everyone likes muscle.

But yeah, no one likes fat guys.
>> Anonymous
>>28816
This is truth.

Tom Platz had hips that were as wide as his collarbones. He made up for that by have the biggest fucking legs anyone had ever seen. He didn't complain or give up, he just squatted.
>> Anonymous
I know quite a few girls who dig skinny and are actually repulsed by muscle.

But this is, infact, the minority, I assure you.
>> Anonymous
I remember reading some sort of research which suggested that the ideal mate for a woman depends on whether or not she's ovulating.

Apparently the preferred reproduction strategy for females is to get fucked & made pregnant by an alpha male ultra masculine type (i.e. strong dominant dude with right genetics), but to be in a long-term relationship with a more "caring" man who is also rich, so he can look after the child he thinks is his. Because the alpha male sucks as a father and just wants to fuck around.

On the other hand, I also read that women will go after the most dominant male most of the time, and that in times past it was normal for lots of chicks to have to share one guy, since so many guys were killed in battle/hunting.

Women, eh fellas?
>> Anonymous
yeah, i fuckin get pissed too, just cause some people are built naturally bigger than others. its also bad cause i get more looks from homos than females, and the females that do like skinny guys are generally otakus or rocker girls thatll probably leave me for a buff guy. :(
>> Juggy !tr.t4dJfuU
>>28954
I assure you, the bigger guys get looked at by the homos just as often, if not more, than the skinny guys.
>> Anonymous
>>28965

Do homos tend to have better bodies on average? I would expect so since men are more attracted to looks than women are.
>> Anonymous
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>>28970I would expect so since men are more attracted to looks than women are.

WHERE DO YOU LIVE
>> Juggy !tr.t4dJfuU
>>28970
I dunno. The gaydar is not strong with this one. My experiences are going to be biased by the fact that the guys that I've seen that were obviously gay were really feminine, and didn't tend to be particularly fit.
>> Juddy
>>28982
omg juggy, did that last warning not get through to you? be sure to lock your doors tonight..
>> Juggy !tr.t4dJfuU
woosh.
>> Anonymous
Wait, girls prefer muscular guys? WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN?! IS THIS A JOKE?! NOT FUNNY!!!

My body build is short and thick, and it came down to being thick with fat like my father, or thick with muscle. I chose the latter, but it seemed like that was the wrong choice. Muscles seemed more like a novelty to other people. Sure, people would widen their eyes and go "wow!", but that was the end of it. And whenever I hear girls talking about the guys they want, they talk about the skinny, lanky, pretty, cute boys. Masculinity seemed to be undesirable.

Heck, when I was in high school, a girl I liked, without me saying anything or even noticing she was there, laid down and rested her head on my stomach, as I was laying down. About 5 seconds later, she leaned back up, commenting on how awful of a pillow I was.
>> Anonymous
ITT: White people
>> Anonymous
>>28167
fat women and ugly women prefer effeminate men, whereas women who rate their own attractiveness highly prefer more masculine men. they've done studies that show this but you can tell it from life experience too, fat chicks love bishies
>> Anonymous
the most important thing is to have the body type you are satisfied and confident with. if you look the way you want and don't give a fuck about other people's opinions on your appearance, you're good to go. sure some fat chicks or special interest group chicks who like a certain body type might not like you but that's pretty irrelevant to your ability to attract women unless you're chasing some ridiculously specific niche group like the faggot you are
>> Anonymous
>>29044
That is so true i never thought about it before
>> Anonymous
>>29044
As a skinny guy, I can corroborate this.
>> Anonymous
>>28309
>Comparing lanky guys to muscular guys? No, lanky guys have bigger dicks.

yeah i mean look at ron jeremy. o wait.
>> Anonymous
>>29032
I somewhat agree with this. When I was in high school girls went after guys who, while it was obvious they had muscle, they weren't fucking ripped. Girls do find guys with muscles attractive, but the last thing they want are total meatheads.
>> Anonymous
>>29044
Oh, that explains why so many of the self-proclaimed femanons say that they prefer skinny guys.
>> Anonymous
Fit and trim = sexy
Ripped = not so sexy
Little bit o' padding = passable
Fat = ugh

Been with all kinds but wirey guys are the most attractive. Little bit of definition everywhere is nice and far more ascetically pleasing than someone with bulges everywhere. Bi though so that might have something to do with it.
>> Anonymous
>>29319
or you are just a huge whore so your point of view is stupid
>> Anonymous
>>28230
"talk nicer" spoken like a true retarded meat face
>> play !3rZQiXcf5A
I like muscular guys to a certain point, and after that point they start to look too pumped up and funny. I like my guys to be anything from slightly on the skinny side to decently built.
And I don't think I would ever be attracted to a really fat guy. To me, fat shows laziness, and if I'm going to look good, he had better look good too.