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Anonymous
Hey /fit/

Just started getting into the gym this semester, and wondering about supplements. Friends of mine seem to be into Whey Protein (and occasionally) creatine in a big way. Is this necessary/a good idea to build muscle mass/increase strength. I'm in okay shape but relatively weak (6'2 165lbs).

TLDR: Supplements, awesome y/n?
>> Anonymous
y.

They are by no means necessary, if you can get the amount of daily protein that you need then more power to you. But they do help a lot.
>> Anonymous
OP Here again.

What kind of supplements to take? Just Whey? Or is there some 'optimum' combo.
>> Anonymous
on an on day, you need about as many grams of protein as you weigh. You will never get there without protein supplements, and whey is the whey to go. Creatine is sketchy though, I'd just stick with the whey protein.
>> Anonymous
>>458436

You're right,....but honestly its gonna be kinda hard for OP to get all the protein he needs from food. Taking whey will be a must if OP wants to keep his nitrogen levels positive (necessary for muscle growth)......most bodybuilders would suggest he consumes about 165 grams of protein a day based on his weight. OP...i'd say go for it, buy whey. Creatine is good to, but try to get your muscles in shape before you start it....it'll be more efficient.
>> Anonymous
Realistically, you only need to take protein (I recommend a protein blend like Optimum Nutrition's Pro Complex) if you are trying to put on muscle. If you are just trying to trim down, you just need enough protein to keep your muscle happy.

As for supplements, stick to a normal one-a-day multivitamin with. Eat plenty of fruit and veggies, along with good lean chicken and beef.

OP: What age are you? Creatine is good for older folks like myself (32) but doesn't really have the returns for someone between the ages of 12 to 24.
>> Anonymous
20 yr old, 175 lbs 5'10" been working out for a couple of years

I've noticed no benefits to using creatine, but that's just me. Some people love it. Just don't buy a crazy large tub of it in the beginning, there's a chance your body won't react to it.

Whey Protein is super helpful in getting enough protein in diet. Just don't rely on it, try as much protein as you can in your meals throughout the day.

Just keep in mind that it's a SUPPLEMENT, not a meal.
>> Anonymous
so if you weight 160 pounds you need 160 grams of protein, or if you weigh 160 pounds or 80 kg, you need 80 grams?
>> Anonymous
what the fuck is wrong with you people???? creatine is not sketchy, can you prove that? and creatine for most people is good with anybody over 18, which is the age most creatines say to at least be. and if you didnt get any results from creatine you are taking it wrong, its a shitty creatine, or your a walking vagina/faggot
>> Anonymous
>>458852

YOU REALIZE HOW MANY PEOPLE DIE OF CREATINE RELATED CAUSES A YEAR?!!

seriously, get On 100% whey and some prolab creatine
>> Anonymous
My body react very strongly to just ordinary creatine monohydrate. After using it for just a week all my big lifts went up 5-10 kg.

But some peoples body just have naturally produces very high amounds of creatine, for those it's a waste of money.
>> Anonymous
>>458776
80kg is more like 180lbs
>> Anonymous
I say to OP and to all of you:

Eat real food. Not processed food, not junk food, real food. Cook your own eggs, meat and fish. Eat nuts. Don't forget to eat TONS of vegetables. These things make you healthy. Real food is complex, and we don't even know how everything works together, but that's evolution. Whey protein is NOT on our evolutionary path except as a part of whole foods like milk and cheese.
>> Anonymous
only supplement you ever need is a good multi-vit
>> Anonymous
ITT

faggots thinking that this will somehow be a solution to all their fat loss/muscle gaining needs

lols
>> Anonymous
>>458882
Drinking milk as adults isn't on our evolutionary path either. Whey is not meant to be a substitude for food, it's a supliment on top of a normal healthy diet. It's pretty damn hard to get the 2 grams of proteine per kg of bodyweight necessary for obtimal muscle gains with just nuts, meat, eggs and milk.