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Anonymous
Hey /fit/,

I'm 250Lbs 6ft tall and obviously overweight. I started running this this week in the mornings on my treadmill 3-4mph varying the inclines for 1/2 to 1 hour.

I was thinking of taking Hydroxy cut. What does /Fit/ think about this? I hear it can give you tremors and its pretty much speed but is is really that risky to try? and is it even worth it?
>> Anonymous
at 250 pounds you don't need much to lose weight
good diet and exercise should do it
>> Anonymous
>>165883
lolwut.
>> Anonymous
>>165889
No, he's right. Packing that much weight on you, you don't even need to DO much to lose weight. Just eat right and exercise and the weight will come off. No need to take speed.
>> Anonymous
hahaha, ha.

hydroxycut is not "pretty much speed." Does it even contain ephedrine?
>> Anonymous
Ok, so I don't need Hydroxycut. Is there any literature or website you guys suggest I check out. I started writing down nutritional info on everything i eat today so hopefully that will help me stay on a diet But I don't know what kind of intake I should be aiming for.
>> Anonymous
http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm
>> Anonymous
>>165868

i'm also interested in getting some literature on this, im 260 and 6'1" and im looking to lose some weight
>> Anonymous
I've taken Hydroxycut Hardcore it's pretty good but if you want to see results have to eat right.
Eat right, Drink A LOT of water when you take HH.
>> Anonymous
>>165987
Thank you anon! You guys here on fit have been amazingly helpful so far.
>> Anonymous
http://rapidshare.com/files/70942739/Burn_The_Fat__Feed_The_Muscle_-_Tom_Venuto.pdf.html
>> Anonymous
A great program for managing a diet is Chron-o-meter at http://spaz.ca/cronometer/. You can set your daily targets of calories, protein, etc. Do this to check your diet before falling back on diet pills.
>> Anonymous
>>166127
Not OP, but thanks anon. This is relevant to my interests.
>> Margaret
>>165868
>running
>3-4mph
lol
>> Kung-FU !!yKQtbs254kV
>>166148

I too, lol'd
>> Anonymous
>>166150
>>166148

I'm fat. At least I'm trying.
>> Kung-FU !!yKQtbs254kV
Well I think you're running faster than 3 mph because that is my normal walking speed.
>> Anonymous
>>166293
and even 4mph is such a nice and steady brisk pace to WALK at...
>> Anonymous
Hydroxycut made me feel like shit, I think it was all the caffeine. It didn't help me shed a pound either.
>> Anonymous
"It didn't help me shed a pound either"
Did you eat right? I'm guessing no
>> Anonymous
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The only weight-loss supplement I've tried is ErgoLean's Amp 2. I'm actually just coming off my cut now, but I've dropped from 185 in February to 159 right now; but I also improved my diet a lot and started exercising more, so don't be entirely sure it was the pills. The energy it gives it decent, overall I'm pretty pleased with it. Consider using it.
>> Anonymous
>>166148
>>166150
>>166294
Jogging at a slow pace is low intensive cardio. for a fat fuck like him its better to do. Even for very athletic people or body builders its more ideal than working your ass off jogging at 5+mph for a hour. You tap into your reserve fat when jogging slow like he is. When you jog fast you start burning muscle and carbs..yeah all that work in the gym and you just going to run it off...

OP you should set your goal for at least 40mins of slow jogging and don't go over a hour. I never messed around with fat burners, but i know most of them have caffeine as a main ingredient...
>> Anonymous
Hydroxycut is teh bawmb. get the ones with ephedra for EXTRA PUMP.
>> Anonymous
Dude, ephedrine + caffiene is the best weight loss stack besides adderall. take 25mg/200mg 3times daily. With diet and exercise, you american ass will loose some fat.
>> Anonymous
>>166670

What about adding incline to walk/jog. Good or Bad.
>> Anonymous
>>166709

Hmmm... One problem, the Ephedrine/Caffeine/Aspirin precursors are superior to E/C stacks. Also, in the States, it's basically impossible to get ephedra (aside from ordering far overpriced ephedra from overseas...).
>> Anonymous
im 6ft 255 was 6ft 295 now ive been taking HH for 4 months and it really helped me lose 40lbs over that 4 months and i did a lot of walking because of my job but i still ran and do a bit of lifting the only problem ive ever had with HH is that when u get to taking 3pills twice a day u cant really sleep to good but i figured it was because of all the caffeine and i was right but what ever u do dont take any energy drinks of any kind cause that will really do a number on ya so what i finally did was went back to 2 pills 2x a day and still loosing weight its about 2 lbs a week if u do it right but i say it cant hurt to try
>> Anonymous
so how exactly do pills like hydroxycut actually help you lose weight? just all the caffeine that makes you want to run around and do more? sorry plz help me be more informed
>> Anonymous
Yea you want to move around more and it makes you sweat a lot more then normal
>> Anonymous
you can get ephedrine HCL in 8mg tabs in Ontario
>> Anonymous
when i started taking HH it would make me break a sweat with just barely jogging up a small flight of stairs i think what it does is it boost your internal temp and makes u sweat like crazy cause when i take to work out it makes me sweat like crazy shirts soaked in 30min and just barley started my work out
>> Anonymous
>>166737

It is over priced but probably still cheaper to buy pure ephedrine hcl and caffiene than hydroxycut. Last time I checked that shit was not cheap.Order in bulk and you can find eph hcl for relatively cheap. pure caffiene is extremely cheap. you in the states? Look north young jedi. you can Order up to 9gm/month. So about $70-90 will give you about a 3-6 month supply depending on your dosage.
>> Anonymous
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Why go half-assed about it.
>> Anonymous
>>167043

sweating =/= losing weight

sweating = your body is overheating and needs to cool down

if sweating caused fat loss, everyone could sit in saunas and be at 10% body fat in a month
>> Anonymous
>>167033
ephedra and the stack work like this.
they stimulate your central nervous system. this makes all of your muscles fire more rapidly. then, they increase your respiratory rate, and dilate your bronchi (airway passages) . Your heart will begin to contract more rapidly. All of this without even lifting a finger. When your CNS is stimulated, your body diverts it's attention, blood flow and hormone secretion from the visceral organs in your abdomen, to your peripheral limbs, heart and lungs. This will give you more ready to use strength, as your limbs are engorged and your body is secreting adrenaline at a faster rate. That diversion from your visceral organs also means that your appetite and bowel motility will be reduced, so in other words, you will eat less, and likely become constipated.

I loved taking ephedra/caffeine/asprin, I lost tons of fat and got huge. Still I was worried about the side effects (my hair would stand up on end) and I flt like I was running in my sleep, when I was able to sleep. I went off of it cold turkey after a 6 month cycle (I recommend a month at a time max BTW) and had some of the most epic shitty headaches of my entire life. think of how bad it is when you go off of coffee, and multiply that by 10. I never took it again. I can't see much harm in a reasonable one month cycle or so, but be very careful going long term on this stuff. It is wildly potent shit.
>> Anonymous
>>167356

Not the same. Plus, you want to talk about expensive!!! I like my teeth as well. FUCK meth.
>> Anonymous
>>167361
Should i take that before a muay thai match? Sounds pretty awesome.
>> Anonymous
>>167509

Not really, since ephedra is fucking illegal.
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I have used this before and it worked for about a week, but then I guess your body gets used to it and it just stops working. except for the not getting any sleep part! your best bet is to take those energy shot things, only on days you feel you really need it though. they give you just the amount of energy you need to fell good but not anxious.
>> Anonymous
>>167613
That shit's weak, drink a 6 hour power and a redbull and your heart will be RACING. Felt like I was gonna have a heart attack.
>> Anonymous
>>167509
Well, I really don't see why not. the shit does amp you up. however, as I mentioned, there are side effects.
>>167510
just in the united states.
>> Anonymous
>>167510
ephedra is only illegal because dipshits took 6 times the maximum reccomended amount and went running in summer with sweaters on and died. caffeine ain't that good for you either but most people can't stomach enough coffee to kill them.
>> Anonymous
>>167361
thanks!
>> weight loss Anonymous
Hey /fit/

I'm 18 years old, and the lazy life has got to me. I'm hoping to lose some fat round my belly, but i'm wondering how is the best way to do this?

I currently do some dumbbell training, should I burn the fat before I try and build up muscle?

I currently weigh 185 Lbs

thanks
>> Anonymous
>>168042

no, build muscle first and eat at a slight caloric deficit, you are a noob so you will build muscle.

that muscle will raise your metabolism so you burn fat all the time, and losing fat will be easier.

i would focus on weight training. its been proven time and time again that lifting weights is a better way to burn fat than pure cardio. but some people still cling to cardio and wont pick up a barbell if their life depended on it.

go to t-nation.com read some article, the general consensus stands
>> Anonymous
>>168056

think of it this way. you eat the same, but lift weights.

your body HAS to add some muscle to adapt, but you dont have enough caloric intake to be 186lbs, so your body will eat 1lb of fat to make room for 1lb of muscle.

this is not the same as fat turning into muscle. this rule only works for noobs. take advantage of it
>> Anonymous
>>167510

Ephedrine is NOT FUCKING ILLEGAL! No storefront will carry it because they don't want to get sued when fat anons kill themselves. It is available domestically, it's just a process because they mostly have to keep track of how much you buy and have you id on file.

But, ordering from outside the states is hassle free and completely legal.
>> sage
>>168211

FATTIES! pills will not make you loose weight!!!!