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So, I was a long time diet soda drinker and consumer of Splenda. /fit/ is right about this shit. I'm not talking specifically about the largely unproven negative health effects it might have on humans (been shown that it may cause some cancers in rats), I'm talking about the bullfuck marketing swindlers who have been telling us sucralose has zero calories.

Splenda's website claims that the reason sucralose has "no calories" is because it passes through your body before being broken down for energy. The FDA has proven this false and there is a bit of a legal battle going on over it, but as it stands, Splenda is allowed to continue making the zero calorie claim. The FDA has, however, agreed that sucralose is relatively safe, as the component of sucralose that is considered to be harmful is the chlorine, which humans consume in various foods ranging from natural lettuce to table salt.

As for calories, Splenda (and all sucralose) contains 86% of the calories found in the same amount of sugar. Sucralose contains 331 calories per 100 grams, white sugar contains 387 calories per 100 grams. This equates to roughly 1.66 calories per teaspoon of sucralose and when you consider how much is actually used in diet soda...they aren't so fucking diet anymore. Splenda also uses calorie laden fillers in the form of dextrose and maltodextrin, which contain 3.75 calories per single gram.
>> Anonymous
>>141763

rant continued


Basically, this stuff is only labeled as zero calories because of the swindling of some slick CEOs. Their recommended serving size is so small that they aren't legally forced to list the calories. It's the same swindling that lets companies market ICBINB spray as zero calorie or Pam as zero calorie...yet they contain the same fats and calories as most butters and oils.

There's also a few studies that argue that people who drank diet soda over 12 week periods ended up gaining weight, because they subconciously began associating all sweets as low or zero calorie because of the claims that the diet soda had no calories.

So, yeah, I'm fucking done with diet soda. I'm sure a lot of you already knew this, but I really had the wool pulled over my eyes for a long while. Just keep in mind that everytime you reach for a diet soda, you're truly not taking in zero calories...at BEST you're still taking in half the calories of a regular soda, they're just buttfucking you with clever marketing and shady practices.
>> Anonymous
Well, no fuck dipshit. They're allowed to say zero calories as long as it's less than five per serving. See their other regulations here:

http://www.fda.gov/ora/inspect_ref/igs/nleaatd.html#ATTACHMENT%207
>> Anonymous
Oh, and gaining weight from diet coke can't really happen. The serving of a can of diet coke is literlly a can. It says zero calories. So, it can't have more than five calories. You fucking burn those calories just drinking it.

Also, want to know the truth about artificial sweeteners? Look here:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=291569
>> Anonymous
Joke thread people, move along, nothing to see here.
>> Anonymous
>>141770

Right, but Splenda abuses a loophole due to the process involved in making sucralose. Their claim is that the portions of sucralose which contain a lot of calories are not metabolized by humans, which is under heavy investigation and review by the FDA and U.S. Sugar Association.

Diet soda, according to a lot of these studies, still provides a significant amount of calories. While things like no calorie cooking sprays adhere to the "under five calorie rule", they're equally as bad because the fucking serving size on Pam is something like "1/5 second of a spray".

Hell, Ore Ida could legally start labeling their frozen French fries as having zero calories if they tell you their serving size is like 1/8 of an ounce or some shit. Whole system is bullshit.
>> Free Pepsi !!iXxa+hO94Mg
I endorse this thread
>> Anonymous
There's all kinds of loop holes the food corporations manage to get away with. Trans fat content can be labeled as zero if there is under 0.5 grams per serving, and there are like 10 servings in a small container.
>> Anonymous
>>141778
God, no. Each packet of Splenda has 4 calories. Do they say this? No, it's called fucking marketing. But does it matter? No, because such little calories does nothing unless you're a retard pouring like 100 packets or something in their food. And, once again, you are wrong about the diet coke. I made it pretty clear in the other post. One serving of a can of diet coke is ONE CAN. It says 0 calories. Since the serving is one can, that can cannot have more than 4.9 calories. Simply as that.
>>141779
Fuck off, you are not only considered a fucking ignorant retard here, but you also make us look like meathead faggots on /ck/.
>> Anonymous
>>141792

And YOU failed to read ANYTHING I fucking said. Splenda has been making claims that while their sweetener contains calories, they are not metabolized by humans. And the FDA is calling bullshit on this and doing a lot of research which is starting to show that sucralose DOES contain a significant amount of food energy.

The reason a diet Coke is saying zero calories is because of this loophole that sucralose has found in the FDA's system. HENCE WHY THE FDA IS INVESTIGATING IT. Right now, these companies are still legally allowed to claim zero calories on anything sweetened with sucralose...and studies are showing that this is utter bull.

Again, your diet Coke is saying zero calories because of the claims that sucralose is largely not metabolized by the human body. This may very well end up being proven 100% false within a year or two.
>> Anonymous
>>141805

It's sweetened with both sucralose and aspartame, just like every other diet soda on the market.
>> Anonymous
>>141808

Not my fault you can't Google or keep up with the news, ignorant fuckwit.
>> Anonymous
>>141811
You're lying to get lulz, and no one capable of critical thought believes you.
>> Anonymous
>>141809
You piece of fucking shit nigger, you made me go and grab a can just to check. No sucralose, stupid fuck.
>> Free Pepsi !!iXxa+hO94Mg
>>141814

You and the sodafags are just hearing what you want to hear. Drinking and justifying is a psychological battle in terms of fitness - the weakwilled lose by justifying diet soda consuming.

But now that there's someone with some physical reasons why diet soda is shitty, your world falls apart and you are in denial. Continue insulting him while he posts numbers, facts and logic. Everyone hears what they want to hear.
>> Free Pepsi !!iXxa+hO94Mg
>>141828

Here comes the denial and struggling. Here's a question, you weak willed bitch from /ck/...

What is the benefit of drinking soda at all?
>> Anonymous
>>141838
I'm not from /ck/, I'm at 9% BF, and I don't consume fake sugars, but I understand how the scientific community works, and am not blinded by my own biases one way or the other.

Here, why don't you read this PEER REVIEWED report, and summarize it for me.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10882818
>> Anonymous
Guys, if you don't fucking realise this is a joke thread made by a troll then I don't know what to say to you.

Diet soda putting on weight by adding 3 calories per 2 litre bottle? "weak willed"? Are you freaking kidding me? I can't believe some people seem to be falling for this troll.
>> Anonymous
>>141848
I know OP is a troll, but the Free Pepsi guy is hilariously serious.
>> Free Pepsi !!iXxa+hO94Mg
>>141844

I don't believe you. Show a picture of your 9% bodyfat physique, with a card saying /fit/ and today's time and date.

Either way, what is the benefit of drinking soda? Are there any?
>> Free Pepsi !!iXxa+hO94Mg
>>141861

Failed to deliver proof, though I will give you more time. Otherwise, you're just some fatass from /ck/ who posts about Sugar Dips, Hershey's and Costco's hotdogs, not at all someone with a 9% bodyfat.

>>taste good

Soda tastes good? That's the only reason you're putting this chemical shit in your body? Because it tastes good?

/thread
>> Anonymous
There are no benefits of drinking diet coke. Is there a damn benefit of drinking anything other than to cure some thirst? Fuck no. You're logic fucking fails.
>> Anonymous
>>141867
Prove that these chemicals are actually bad. Fact is, the consensus of the scientific community is that they don't do shit.
>> Anonymous
>>141867

HAHAHA, you are such a moron, I see you didn't read the peer reviewed study I posted.

And no, I am not posting a picture because (1) I don't have a camera, and (2) that is, as I mentioned above, creepy.

Furthermore, why didn't you answer my question: what is the benefit of sex?
>> Anonymous
>>141867
Ok, I'm going to go take a shower because you aren't mentally capable of a logical conversation and you take entirely too long to respond.
>> Free Pepsi !!iXxa+hO94Mg
>>141870

Whoa! How about some water? Yeah, it's your new best friend, drink some regular ass water.

>>141873

The burden of proof isn't on me, son. The fact is you're putting random chemicals in your body because they taste good momentarily.

And studies about why coke is harmful or nonharmful are a dime a dozen out there. But why the fuck are you drinking it just to taste it?
>> Free Pepsi !!iXxa+hO94Mg
>>141874

This question isn't analogous at all to the question of drinking coke. Coke is a recent, shitty invention that got morons psychologically addicted to and now are defending on the internet. Sex has been around since humankind began and is required to pass down genetics. WTF is coke good for?
>> Anonymous
>>141880
Water is fucking bland. Maybe I want to have dinner and enjoy what I'm downing the food with. Being nutritious should be something you enjoy, and having a can of diet coke at dinner is something that I like doing because IT DOES FUCKING NOTHING. THE CHEMICALS, THEY DO NOTHING!
>> Free Pepsi !!iXxa+hO94Mg
>>141884

There is nothing more I can do at this point.

But everyone else, take a look at this example of a weak willed bitch. Who is a slave to taste and poor judgement.
>> Anonymous
Science is frequently wrong and contradicts itself.
>> Anonymous
As a spectator, I can honestly say that Free Pepsi is only speaking out of opinion that those chemicals are bad, while the other two have shown that studies find there is nothing wrong with them. I think we know who the actual diluted one here is...
>> Anonymous
Carbonation is also upsetting to my natural palate
>> Anonymous
>>141898

I'm another spectator to this thread, although it is scientifically proven now, how long will it take for researchers to disprove it? Matters of nutrition science are frequently overturned or updated.
>> Anonymous
>>141906
Why live in constant fear of what we don't presently know.

Just live your life, cheat on your diet every once and a while, call in sick to go to a concert, snort some coke, whatever; human beings can tolerate stress, we have evolved to do so, deviating from perfection every once and a while should be preferred to absolute rigidity.
>> Anonymous
>>141906
Well, since there's been so many studies to support that there's nothing wrong, I'm not sure how credible one or even a few studies can be that say it's horrible.

Besides, the studies suggest what amount can be consumed and still be safe. Drinking one or two cans a day wouldn't get you anywhere near the amount.
>> Free Pepsi !!iXxa+hO94Mg
>>141898

LOL I'M A SPECTATOR HERE, I THINK THIS GUY IS GAY

No really, who are you kidding. There's only one fag who spells "deluded" by "diluted", and that's the same sodafag who justifies drinking soda.

Continue being a weak minded bitch
>> Anonymous
>>141922
FreePepsi, how long have you been dieting from the overweight mess you used to be? You sound exactly like a born-again health freak.

Turn it down, you're overcompensating.
>> Anonymous
>>141934
Did you get vaccinated? Do you use shampoo? Do you breath the air outside of your house? Do you eat meats? Do you pump your own gas?

All of the above MAY cause your grandchildren to have down syndrome.

Enjoy your fear.
>> Anonymous
>>141934
Have fun with that. You realize everything is genetically manipulated these days, right? Even that organic bullshit is. Nothing is natural anymore.
>> Free Pepsi !!iXxa+hO94Mg
>>141935

Why thank you good sir
>> Anonymous
>>141934

You realize your ancestors mostly ate completely raw vegetables, raw or very poorly cooked meats, and live insects, right? They also didn't have seasonings of any sort.

Common table salt is generally a product of some company's lab. Very little salt products are natural aside from sea salt. So, I guess you don't eat ANYTHING with salt in it.
>> Anonymous
Anyone else imagine Free Pepsi as being one of those hippy ladies you see in places like Whole Food who wear hand made clothing and carry their babies in little hand made satchels that are tied around their neck?

Seriously dude, lol, loosen the fuck up. You're treating diet coke like how they treated people who had AIDS back in the early 80's (OH GOD DON'T BREATHE ITS AIR YOU'LL GET AIDS).
>> Anonymous
>>141935
I drink 4-600mg of caffeine a day, I get 4-5 hours of sleep a night, I perpetually have bags under my eyes, I get shit faced on every other Friday, I consume sucralose without care, I smoke a clove every once and a while, I consume 50-80g of protein through Whey supplements a day, etc.

I eat extremely healthy (to a fault), I do 40 mins of cardio 4 times a week, I lift for 2 hours 5 times a week, I never consume refined carbohydrates (sugar, flour), I never eat anything processed, I cook every single of my meals, etc.
>> Anonymous
>>141938

Those are the things I can't control. The things I can control are what I put into my mouth.

>>141939
That may be, but it's not preventing me from trying. I grow my own veggies, and I go to farmer's markets for (in-season only) produce I can't grow myself. I import buffalo meat in bulk quantities that last for months.

>>141942
Nope, I don't eat much salt. Fuck your salt.


This may be extreme for you faggots, but I don't care. Enjoy your mutations.
>> Anonymous
>>141957
It's not extreme, it's just silly, and superfluous.
>> Free Pepsi !!iXxa+hO94Mg
>>141943

Do you realize that

1.) You are in /fit/, not /fat/? This is the land of /fit/, water > nearly every other drink. Gb2home(/fat/)

2.) Yeah I hate on soda. Therefore I hate on every processed food in the world. Bonus: I study food preservation as part of my major.

3.) This is all psychological, son. Studies are a dime a dozen out there. But ask yourself, why the fuck are you drinking soda? What are the reasons? Anyway this is finished.
>> Anonymous
>>141967
It's finished because you ran out of shit to spew.

And btw, taking a few night classes in nutrition at your local community college doesn't qualify as being part of your "major."
>> Anonymous
>>141962

You know those things that people blow their money on that just seems strange and silly to other people? This is mine. I don't know about you, but I'm sure everyone here has their own hobby/fascination that will seem ridiculous to someone else. I'm just extremely focused on creating a superior offspring.
>> Anonymous
I drink Regular soda because it tastes good.

I kind of want to enjoy eating and drinking. I drink 2 sodas a day maybe. Then milk with a shake or water when working out.

If I wanted to be miserable I'd pound down bland food and drink water all day.

If you want to be a health freak, you better move out into the country because breathing in all the shit from cars is 100x worse for you than drinking a soda a day. And you better grow all your own shit too.
>> Anonymous
>>141934
I think this guy is actually that retarded, rather than being a troll.
>> Anonymous
>>141980
Yea, but my hobby is rooted in reality, and not off-the-wall insane.

Good luck with your superbabies, though. You might want to look into HGH.
>> Free Pepsi !!iXxa+hO94Mg
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>>141973

Yeah, because UCDavis is a community college.

And btw, gulping down diet soda at your local gay bar doesn't count as burning calories. But you can still be fabolous.
>> Anonymous
>>141987

I don't see how it's insane to have healthy children. Anyways, I was gonna troll you some more, but I have a summer school exam coming up tomorrow, gotta get some sleep.
>> Anonymous
>>141996
It might as well be.
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>>141957
>>141980
>>142001

Awesome troll dude, I salute you!