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STR or Speed? Anonymous
>> Anonymous
middleweight = both
>> Anonymous
>>437532
Which would be Bruce Lee.
>> CWheezy !!bJFrM5LONOF
>>437539
Is this a question?

He was a bodybuilder anyways.
>> Anonymous
bruce lee the most over rated martial artist ever.
>> Anonymous
>>437570
you're probably a fat faggot

>>437557
i was going to ask the same thing.
>> Anonymous
>>437574
No, he's right. Put him against someone in MMA he would get raped.
>> Anonymous
>>437576
People in MMA are chubby babies who fall down tactically.
>> Anonymous
>>437578
Sounds like someone else is the fatty.
>> Anonymous
look how fucking ripped bruce is i cant believe this is even a question.
>> Anonymous
Strength = speed in most cases.

Look at sprinters.

If you are trying to "bulk" you will lose flexibility and speed.
>> Anonymous
Size =/= Strength
>> Anonymous
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bruce lee is totally overrated, was incredibly quick and strong? definitely (although pretty much all of Bruce Lee's physical feats are based on anacdotal evidence).
I think people should idolise Jackie Chan instead of bruce, this man achieved much more. If you watch his old movies (particulary ones with Yuen Biao) his movie martial-arts is on par or better than Bruce's not to mention his master fight choreography. Almost Jackie actually had gymnastic abilities (backtucks, handsprings) of which Bruce had 0 and had to get stunt doubles for. I won't even mention Jackie's stunts aswell...

td;dr: completely irrelevant rant JC > Bruce Lee
>> Anonymous
>>437587

Not if you stretch and do plyometrics moran
>> Anonymous
Speed is not something you can gain in a gym by doing repetitive lifting you faggots. It requires actual motor neural skills. Sure you can go to the gym and acquire a physique similar to that of Bruce Lee, but you'll never ever bee even one-one billionth the speed of him when it comes to martial arts.

And anyone who says "Put Bruce Lee against any mixed martial artist and watch him get owned" just proves how much of a clueless cockgobbler they are. MMA has only really been developed in the past 10-15 years (and is still developing), Bruce Lee was one of the first people to show the importance of training both stand up and ground work in a single martial art. He showed this to the traditional martial arts world and thus help to bring it to a more mainstream acceptance.
So if you like MMA, don't trash Bruce Lee because he is essentially one of the godfathers of modern day mixed martial arts.
>> Sponge !!5qxfxHYSQxJ
RONNIE COLEMAN VS BRUCE LEE

GO
>> Anonymous
>>437605
jackie chan is a god among men
and also fucking hilarious
>> Anonymous
Riodfat vs Skill, speed, tactics


DURRRRRRRRRRRRR lol the riodfag would be dead just because hes slow, works irl also.
>> Anonymous
>>437608

You know I can't even watch MMA...just because of the fact they are in fact so damn slow. It's like watching the sword battles on a movie. They move in basically slow motion so you can see every swing but in a REAL fight anyone who pulled that shit would be dead in probably 10 seconds.
>> Sponge !!5qxfxHYSQxJ
>>437626

yeah except that a guy on roids has a massive advantage over a guy who isn't on roids
>> Anonymous
You guys heard of Jhoon Rhee? The old man trained with Bruce. Ali, and countless others. He first brought Tae kwon Doe to the united states. H'e's a bad mamma jamma!
>> Anonymous
>>437628
lolno.

I a real fight some moron would come running up, swinging his arms like a moron, and get knocked the fuck out with one right jab to the face.
>> Anonymous
>>437608
youre a clueless cockgobbler, this is why Bruce lee is so overrated. Bruce Lee was an ACTOR, yes his physical abilities were impressive but there's no proof of how fast or strong he was except for anacdotes (which are probably exagerating). He never actually had a full contact fight against anyone impressive, for all we know he had a glass jaw (real fighters have to be able to take punishment, if you think you can win any fight without being hit you're deluded) . Don't get me wrong, I'm a bruce-fan but you're kidding yourself if you think any good MMA fighter of the same size couldn't knock the fuck out of bruce.

And MMA being slow? top MMA fighters are the best fighters in the world you douche, they might seem slow but how they fight actually WORKS.
>> timbo timbo
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speed is one helluva drug.
>> Anonymous
You need to train to be faster just like you need to train to get stronger!

Work the punching bags, spar with other people and do plenty of cadio so you have energy to keep up high speeds.

Strength doesn't impair speed unless you are over muscled with roids to some weird extreme.
>> Anonymous
Why do people make bruce lee the epitome of a speedy fighter? He is neither speedy, nor a fighter. Watch some of rammon dekker's fights to see a speedy fighter.
>> Anonymous
>>437587

agree

watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYX2EWK4QWo

kevin levrone was one of the fucking biggest bodybuilders, so he had a lot of weight that wasnt used at sprinting and still he kept a very nice time.
>> Anonymous
>>437638

Oh bullshit. I'd bet on some old fart Chinese kung fu master over any MMA fighter any day. In combat speed and technique is just as important as strength. The only thing those idiot MMA fighters do is just pummel each other like giant meat slabs. There isn't much technique involved other than that.
>> Anonymous
>>437679
they pummel each other because thats the most effective way of fighting. I hope you're trolling. If you think some old 'chinese master's' 'striking swan technique' will take out an MMA fighter before he gets his face kicked in, then you're a stupid tool who watches too many movies. It's not about style it's about how to deal damage and take damage which makes a fighter.
>> Anonymous
>>437638
He was a martial artist before he was an actor. Guys like Jackie Chan and Jet Li and so forth know how to fight first then act (hence why their acting sucks). Just as you say, someone cannot state Bruce would own an MMA guy, you can't state an MMA guy would own Bruce.
>> Anonymous
there is much money to be made here...
>> Anonymous
>>437628
>>437679

almost raged 2/10 trolljob

if you faggots honestly believe any PROFESSIONAL MIXED MARTIAL ARTIST would get beat up in a street fight you are fucking retarded.

these athletes probably grew up fighting in the streets. Do you honestly think they would get their shit handed to them by some nobody?

also lol kung fu master, you watch too many movies.
>> Anonymous
Bruce Lee believed that they were both equally important. You fail.
>> Anonymous
Jet Li and Jackie Chan have both stated in interviews and numerous other sources that they would lose to MMA fighters.

At his prime Bruce Lee was about 135-140lbs of muscle. He would be a feather weight. The lightest weight division in UFC is 155lbs the light weights.

Bruce Lee was a pioneer but he was a shitty grappler. any light weight UFC fighter would close the distance and pummel Bruce's face with punches from the bully mount (sitting on the guys chest)

Bruce Lee was good, but overrated, dead, and 1 dimensional to current fighters of this era
>> Anonymous
>>438425

I wouldn't really call bruce lee 1 dimensional, since he pioneered the idea of putting together different martial arts into a unique style.

not saying he wouldn't get trashed by a top lightweight.
>> Negro Sparkle Faggot
/fit/ martial art historians.

I'm 4th gen under brucee.
My trainer got trained under a guy who got trained by him.
Rofl
Anyway yeah he had his own style. You guys are tards. He was a sick fighter. Had to slow his stuff down for movies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeet_Kune_Do

Also mma is slow because if you mess up you get knocked out you dumb fucks,

HURRRRRR I can punch like 4 times a second HURRRRRRR, that's how you get an elbow to the face.
>> Anonymous
<<438431

Compared to a modern fighter, Bruce Lee was 1 dimensional. he was probably a really decent striker (good at punching and kicking) but i guarantee his clinch, wrestling, and submission work was poor to nonexistent
>> Anonymous
MMA fighters are roided up fagots with no honor. Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan would KO any of them with a well placed 1 inch punch
>> Anonymous
>>438473
6/10
>> Anonymous
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Both.
>> Anonymous
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Neither.
>> Anonymous
>>438425
Lee would just kick their balls after gouging their eyes out.
>> Anonymous
went to an MMA class today. After the guy tried to tell me JKD was wrong for an hour, and he tought me stuff I'd learnt 10 years ago and "discarded what was useless", we finally got down to something. After 2 false starts, because I apparently broke the rules by doing something that might actually work, I ended it in victory with a pin, 2/3 times.

I'll stick at my JKD thanks.
>> Anonymous
>>438517
STEROIDS
>> Anonymous
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>>438473
>> Anonymous
what prevents an MMA fighter from eye gouges and not shots? They have those 2 moves plus an entire libary of high percentage moves that would break your neck, arm, leg, clot the blood to your brain, etc, etc
>> Anonymous
>>438546

Ultimate "arbitrary rules" Fighting, amirite?
>> Anonymous
Both stats suck, its all about HP and M-Defense
>> OriginalContentGuy@gmail.com
Read these for lulz.

http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=LearnUFC.Rules
>> Anonymous
Imagine how crazy powerful a UFC fighter would be if he broke the rules? There would be no ref protecting a kung fu fighter from a Roided up UFC thug
>> Anonymous
>>438681

A great many of the truly destructive martial arts techniques work regardless of size.

I don't care how roided up you are, you're not "fighting through" a crushed windpipe or a destroyed knee.
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>> Anonymous
ITT we forget UFC fighters are martial artists as well. mixed MARTIAL arts people. Jesus.
>> Anonymous
If a homo grappler or UFC guy tried to grab me i would just use my Akido to break their wrist and then follow up with some wing chun chain punching that would break their nose. Because this was the streets there would be no ref to stop me and protect the UFC faggo.
>> Anonymous
>>438708
no clearly this question has generated interesting discussion
>> Anonymous
>>438700
agreed, just because you got mussels doesn't mean your weaker points are gonna be harder to break.

you'd Hit the weak points with superior speed =]
>> Anonymous
dozens of weak speed punches don't amass damage as 1 or 2 powerful, accurate and fast power punches
>> Anonymous
>>437679
MMA is a sport, that's the most they can and while I do wholly agree with you, I'll help you with reasoning.
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MMA can only punch, kick and grapple. If you put someone who knows nothing of MMA's rules and has studied Chinese martial arts his whole life against them, an MMA fighter will not come out alive. Chinese martial arts are meant to kill (Wushu exempt). More than likely there would be eye gouging, groin grabbing/ripping/pulling, limb breaking and jaw grabbing. And those of you who say that's cheap or pussy bullshit, it's a fight.

Going for the enemy's weakness is a tactical advantage. Giving your opponent the chance to fight back is never practical in a fight.
>> Anonymous
A boxer is a combination of speed and power, a Wing Chun fruit fag like Bruce Lee was speed. A boxer would crush Bruce Lee's skull
>> Anonymous
But what prevents a MMA fighter from breaking the rules in a real fight? NOTHING.

MMA fighters have been bred in an environment of constant resistance. A kung fu "master" as been bred in an environments of kata. How can a kung fu fighter take out numerous people when they can't even fight off one cage fighter?
>> Anonymous
I respect both MMA fighters and oriental martial art practitioners equally as they both are effective in their own ways and both have to train hard regardless.
>> Anonymous
>>438745
YOU KNOW WHAT I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF YO- what?
>> dun dun dun Anonymous
>>438742
using a hand held weapon which they have trained with for years
>> Anonymous
guns = hand held weapons
>> OriginalContentGuy@gmail.com
>>438742
>A kung fu "master" as been bred in an environments of kata.
...

I don't think you've ever studied martial arts, enjoy ur gay men rolling around on the floor half naked.
>> dun dun dun Anonymous
>>438759
congratulations. want a cookie
>> Anonymous
>>438759
Gun kata.
>> Anonymous
>>438745
Me too. Style is unimportant. It's all about the individual fighter's skill and dedication.
>> Anonymous
Guns beat any fagot karate, kung fu, or cage fighter
>> Anonymous
Anderson Silva >>>> Bruce Lee
>> Anonymous
what kind of bullshit weapons do Kung-fu guys train in? swords? spears? are you really going to be walking around the streets with a fucking sword or spear on you? also like someone else said. MMA fighters have been through fights before so they can cope and understand stressful situations without panic. yes there is a weapon involved but at least they wont be pissing themselves like some untrained joe blow, kung fu is worthless, and if you really look at how MA's have evolved in china MMA is growing and becoming more accepted in, leave that BS kung fu for the movies
>> Anonymous
>>438779
lol Obvious that you have no experience with traditional martial arts.
>> Anonymous
>>438583
yeah... steroids do help you get stronger and faster. thats why sprinters, football players, powerlifters and pretty much everyone else takes them as much as they can get away with it
>> Anonymous
I am a fucking Black belt with camo stripes in Panther style kung fu. been a black belt since i was 12. so i would know something about TMAs
>> Anonymous
Okay, this has to be said.

MMA IS DIFFERENT FROM ACTUAL FIGHTING!!!!!!!!!! ARGGGH!!!!!

Honestly, I love MMA, and watch it religiously, but it is NOT fighting, it is a SPORT. Not to mention that it is an incomplete sport because it is new, and no one has discovered straight punches or kicks yet. People have said that different types of competitors(strikers, freestylers, professional wrestlers) would lose to MMA fighters, and it has time and time again been proven false. MMA fighters are not these all powerful gods of fighting, they are just talented guys who fight a lot. Bruce Lee was a talented guy who fought a lot.
>> Anonymous
Where was the evidence of Bruce Lee's fights? he was just a hollywood/ Hong Kong action star, but he was no fighter
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this thread is now about bruce lee's lats
>> Anonymous
he use to fight on the rooftops of hongkong in illegal street matches before he struck it big. according to one documentary i watched
>> Anonymous
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Anderson Silva is current MA GOD
>> Anonymous
>>438842
I've seen better, but that was pretty fucking awesome.
>> Anonymous
>>438842
holy fuck, no way this is possible
>> Anonymous
If we are posting Anderson Silva High Lights, this is my fav KO from him

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0qRQFJg9tA
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>>438842
Oh? You don't say...
>> Anonymous
>>438852
Fighter evolve and that was 6-7 years ago?
>> Anonymous
>>438852
Wasn't that guy pwned by Karo? How sad is that?
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>>438857
Oh, did he evolve from this too?
>> Anonymous
>>438851
unreal
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>>438842
here is a better quality gif that shows the entire dodge sequence
>> Anonymous
So much fail and troll in this thread.
>> Anonymous
>>438859
yes yes he did evolve from that.
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>>438865
Did he evolve since fighting a mediocre LW?
>> Anonymous
>>438867
actually what has happened with him? haven't heard from him in a while, is he fighting in DREAM or K1 now?
>> Anonymous
>>438867
>Did he evolve since losing to a mediocre LW?
Fixed.
>> Anonymous
More brutal finishes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_718dOW09k
>> Anonymous
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Brute force and aggression
>> Anonymous
ITT:guys who have never been in a fight calling trained mma fighters slow and inept because they hope they can take a karate class and be tough some day

ps they do drug testing in the ufc faggots stfu
>> Anonymous
>>438779
walking around in NYC with a nunchuk or katana is legal. No current law against that shit. So yeah it's doable. Smart? Hmmm...
>> Anonymous
>>439045
>ITT: Faggots who think that style is important

Fix'd
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8w5hGp0Rmc&feature=related
kid yamamoto is smaller than most the guys he fights but he fucks everyone up
>> Anonymous
>>439162
same weight class of Bruce Lee, i think Yamato could take Lee though
>> Anonymous
>>439181
mmm, I dunno....
>> Anonymous
>>439181
yamamoto is good but i dont know about that
>> Anonymous
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Jcryf8s8AE

not many people know about this dude but he kicks through everyone
>> Anonymous
>>439138
so you admit to being a faggot
>> Anonymous
>>439192

holy fucking shit goddamn. instafavourited