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Anonymous
Here's one for you, mis/fit/s.
6'4" 58kg 19y/o male.

About a month ago I decided to bulk up, seeing as how I'm so skinny and weak it's a bit of a joke.

I looked into doing the stronglifts 5x5 program. I figured out what feed to eat, and how much, and when (to some extent, anyway.) I got access to a gym with all the necessary equipment, got psyched up about lifting weights and getting mussels, and then discovered that I can't do a lot of the lifts because I've got fucked shoulders. (No back squats, bench presses, o/h presses, barbell rows, or even dips.)

I'm having the shoulder problem looked into now, but in the likely event that I can't do weight training, is there any other hope for me in my quest to become bigger and stronger?
>> Anonymous
lolno
>> Anonymous
You're just gonna have to take it light and slow, you can work with injuries.

No back squats? lol?
>> Anonymous
Congratulations, you're so pitifully weak that its not even possible for you to perform the exercises required for you to become stronger.
>> Anonymous
Can you even do front squats, or dumbell squats?
>> Anonymous
>>269375

HAHAHA many internets to you sir!
>> Anonymous
>>269375
i lold.
>> Anonymous
>>269375
ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
>>269377
I can do front squats. I can do exercises that don't require an uninterrupted movement though a normal shoulder's range of motion, and there don't seem to be many of these.
>> Anonymous
I don't understand what it is you can and can't do.

You can't do anything involving your shoulder? or what?
>> Anonymous
>>269399
To simplify it, I can't do ~most~ lifts involving my shoulders, because they don't work properly. For example, to raise my arms higher than parallel to the floor I need to click my shoulder out slightly.

It's not painful or anything, it just seems to hinder a large amount of exercises. I play casual basketball, and it's just something I deal with. But it seems to totally rule weightlifting out.
>> Anonymous
>>269412
cont.

*It seems to rule most weightlifting out because I don't have the luxury of being able to readjust my strange joints while they're supporting heavy things for me.
>> Anonymous
>>269412
Pro tip: go see a physiotherapist. You'll start without weights, then light weights then maybe, maybe more advanced stuff.

Try on the meantime to get range of motion on the shoulder. If you are too weak now its gonna get only worse as you get older.
>> Anonymous
OP

Start slowly. Start with the fucking bar and no weights on it if you have to. If you just play casual basketball your joints are not used to being worked.

do some pushups
>> Anonymous
>>269367
and who said it? doctor or you?
>> Anonymous
>>269387
>>269367
anon, i think i have the same condition as you
18yr old 5'11'' 130lb
it's called ligamentous laxity.
pushups, bench press, dips etc hurt like fuck and your shoulder pops

I saw a physical therapist about it and I did theraband exercises to build muscle around the joint to keep it secure.
This was fine for a while but once I stopped it started hurting again.
Its common among skinny guys like us, and only gets worse with age and in other joints (hip joint sometimes pops for me when walking up hills, painful as hell).

My advice is to see a P.T. and do theraband exercises. It will take a long time and you have to stick with it forever. This condition will never go away and youll have to keep working with it.

Dumbell flies on a bench for me work well for chest since i can't bench without extreme pain.

I'm sorry to hear about your condition I know how much it sucks.
Take pride in and focus on your legs abs and arms, because your chest shoulders and upper back will never be as strong as you'd like
>> Anonymous
>>269367
Stop being a pussy and start lifting.
>> Anonymous
one good way to test for ligamentous laxity is if you can bend your thumb down to touch your wrist.
The way the doctor diagnosed me was by doing some weird test where he pulled down on my arm and saw a divet in my shoulder. Most people have that divet but i guess mine was more pronounced or something?

idk See a doctor.

I thought i had a torn rotator cuff or something and was worried of having to get minor surgery or have to get regular cortizone injections. it could have been worse
>> Anonymous
>>270508
>>269375
fuck you and fuck you
>> Anonymous
So if I'm "double jointed" in my shoulders does that mean I will have your problem too OP?
>> Anonymous
>>270528
it depends on the case but it wouldnt be surprising.
try lifting and see what happens, if there's pain, stop, but don't let it stop you from getting fit.

See a therapist, get some exercises and slowly work on it.
>> Anonymous
>>270537
Well I can put my arms behind my head way further than I should be able to. So it looks like I broke my arm. Had it twisted too far. I've never had any problem doing any kind of physical activity... hmm. I'll look into this further.
>> Anonymous
>>270528
from wikipedia:
It is important that the individual with hypermobility remain extremely fit - even more so than the average individual - to prevent recurrent injuries. Regular exercise and physical therapy or hydrotherapy can reduce symptoms of hypermobility, because strong muscles help to stabilise joints. These treatments can also help by stretching tight, overused muscles and ensuring the person uses joints within the ideal ranges of motion, avoiding hyperextension or hyperflexion. Low-impact exercise such as Pilates or Tai Chi is usually recommended for hypermobile people as it is less likely to cause injury than high-impact exercise or contact sports.
>> Anonymous
bump