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Anonymous
Quick question /fit/,

Whats the best excerse to do for abs besides crunches, sit-ups or inclined sit-ups?

Reason being, I get a huge back ache after(I think I have a crocked spin)
>> Anonymous
Play through the pain, just means your back muscles are weaker than your abs atm

MAN UP
>> Skippy das Buschkänguruh !!MIDnJbhFIVQ
Do some deadlifts to strengthen your lower back.
>> Anonymous
hold on to a pull up bar and life up your legs.

or put a pillow under your lower back.

>>112333

Don't do this, if you do them even if your lower back is hurting, you can really fuck up your back.
>> Anonymous
Crunches are pretty much the lightest workout you can do to your abs. You can try leg lifts with a pullup bar (or without), but you MUST curl your back or you're only working your hip abductors, nor your abs.
>> Anonymous
hoola hoop
>> Anonymous
>>112526

You're a fucking idiot
>> Anonymous
>>112528

No, you are.
>> Anonymous
Which split do crunches usually go best with?
>> Anonymous
>>112533

Please, explain to me how a proper crunch which only targets the abs will be "going light", and where the fuck you learned that NOT curling the back will only target the hip flexors (it's the fucking opposite)
>> Anonymous
Lay on your side with your elbow touching the ground and raise so that the only points of contact between your body and the ground are the sides of your feet and your elbow. It's harder than it sounds. Keep your spine in a straight line while you're doing it, don't sag.

Mountain climbers, where you get in a push-up position then kick one knee at a time up beneath your chest. Keep your abs tightened and your back as straight as the position allows you to, and start with sets of 25 on each side.

Sit on your butt and lean back at an angle, then put your feet off the ground (make a V with your body). Hold for thirty seconds to a minute at a time.

Get something moderately heavy (8-10lbs) and a friend. Sit with your backs together facing opposite directions and pivot to hand the item around in a circle, switching directions occasionally. If you don't have a friend to do this with, sit down and lean at an angle (like the leg thing, but just not with your legs up) holding the ball/can/weight/dog and twist from side to side.
>> Anonymous
OP, your back hurts because you need to build the muscles of your lower back along with the muscles of your abdominals.
>> Anonymous
If you're getting an ache from exercises which require up and down, that put a good deal of pressure on your lower back, it is my advice to find exercises which do not have your back on a surface.

Hanging leg raises are always an option, as well as any oblique workout. I would say, in lieu of regular crunches, you should do cable crunches. It's where you kneel on the ground with a tricep pulldown type machine, and crunch downwards.

If these don't help, you may either have a weak back, or actual back problems you should have looked at.
>> Anonymous
Pilates are good. I have a routine I have to do 3 times a week for my cross country team
>> Loser
When doing crunches, go UP TO THE CEILING. You're not doing a sit up. You're not going towards your legs. You're going upwards and you're doing it wrong if there's a lot of forward motion. You should only be forward a few inches or so.
>> Anonymous
>>112325
who is this girl?
>> Anonymous
>>113117
mai waifu
>> Anonymous
>>113120
lol srsly
>> Anonymous
Overhead Squats.
>> Ian Curtis !f0VMpnwSCQ
>>112554
This guy speaks the truth. Also tuck planche.
>> Anonymous
I beg you OP, moar of this hawt girl
>> Anonymous
>>113151
Tuck planche is arse for squats.

If you meant bodyweight exercises, front levers kill your abs.
>> Anonymous
>>113156
arse for squats? I meant abs, sorry.
>> Anonymous
>>112880
to your legs is rectus abdominus.

you just loaded the shit out of your psoas, enjoy your nothing.
>> ESH !Oj4wGhYfsE
>>113156

While I'll agree that front levers do indeed kill your abs, the chances of this person (or mostly anyone on 4chan) being able to (correctly) pull one off is pretty fucking slim.

However, doing the progressions and eventually working into being able to do a front lever is pretty rewarding, arduous journey.

I'll suggest hanging leg raises, since they've proven to be the best isolation exercise for abs for me.
>> Anonymous
>>113186
Another illipsoas heavy exercise, same with front levers btw.

In terms of isolation, weighted crunches are the only real one you can do, everything else is using hip flexors HOWEVER

In the process you use alot of abdominus rectus, just make sure you balance it with sufficient posterior chain (specifically erector) work.