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Anonymous
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Does it bother anyone else when people are completely ignorant about mental illnesses.

So many ignorant fucks actually believe because they don't experience, people can just snap out of depression or anxiety and that the drugs are worthless.

It has nothing to do with being a pussy. Synapses in the brain are not firing right, and cause they abnormal thought processes. It's like telling someone with dysentery to stop shitting. You can't, your body won't let you.
>> Anonymous
Go for a jog, eat a nutritious diet, get some sunlight, and laugh a lot. Depression solved, and its done with all chemical reactions.
>> Anonymous
>>374010
Possibly one of the largest piles of bullshit I ever see thrown around.
>> Anonymous
>>374002
truesay, I've got anxiety. It's my own fault though took too many drugs at university
>> Anonymous
>>374012

Prove me wrong then. I'll give you 1 chance before I decimate you with science.
>> Anonymous
So what if you're happier on drugs? Most people are. That's what drugs are for. But most people can live without a drug high. Stop rationalizing an addiction.
>> Anonymous
I've dealt with some serious bouts of depression and anxiety without drugs. I actually went to my doctor to see about getting a prescription but he wouldn't listen to what I was telling him. This doesn't mean anyone can get through it without drugs though. The key for me was to have a supportive mother who had dealt with it before, and the knowledge that those feelings WILL go away on their own, even though it can sometimes take several terrible months. Benefit of getting through it without drugs is I'm quite able to deal with anxiety and panic attacks when they show themselves nowadays, so they rarely give me more than a few hours of suffering before I'm able to let em go.
>> Anonymous
>>374022
>he wouldn't listen to what I was telling him.
Not all doctors are worth giving money to.
>> Anonymous
>>374025
I'm in Canada so I don't pay him anything. Unfortunately my family doctor has never really helped me out in any situation... if nothing else he has taught me to rely less on doctors and medicine when I'm ill.
>> Anonymous
Few people had identifiable mental illnesses in the 50's. Suddenly being socially stupid is a mental disorder.

Blame everything on your "brain synapses" but you're really just a retard.
>> Anonymous
>>374031
You might want to consider doing some sort of pay-for doctor. I've got a fantastic doctor that has helped me quite a bit. I had to go through a few shitty doctors that didn't seem to know what they were doing though.
>> Anonymous
>>374035
They had them, it just wasnt diagnosed.

And they had a shitty quality of life. Expecting people to have a shitty quality of life because people in the past did is stupid.
>> Anonymous
I don't believe in all this overmedication that's going on, it's like everyone I know is on welbutrin, everyones kid has ADD (no no they're not just too stupid/spoiled to pay attention, it's AN DISEASE), it's a buncha horseshit. Less medicating, more manning up.
>> Anonymous
>>374036
Ah I think it's too late for me. I've sorta given up on doctors and medicine, and as a result, I seem to get sick less often. Any time I feel I might need a doctor, if I just forget about it, what I'm suffering from will usually heal itself.
>> Anonymous
>>374002
yeah, it bothers me, but it's not as bad as it used to be. at least health agencies and governments are acknowledging that it's a real issue and not just made up to get attention.

they used to have the same mindset like>>374010but they are starting to smarten up now. i'd say don't worry about what people think because they're fucking idiots anyway. i'm in great physical health but at one time i had anxiety so bad that i wanted to kill myself because i was constantly scared to death for no reason at all. treated by psychiatrist, now i can live a somewhat normal life.

also, just because>>374022had a different situation, doesn't mean that that can apply to every one else. what works for one person =! everybody. i've been living with anxiety and panic attacks for 12 years, not "a few terrible months".
>> Anonymous
>>374035
Schizophrenia, bi-polar: they had them, just weren't diagnosed

wait, are we just talking about depression?

because there is a huge difference between anxiety and depression and bi-polar/Schizophrenia type mental illnesses
>> Anonymous
>It has nothing to do with being a pussy
LOL ok keep telling yourself that, champ.
>> Anonymous
>>374042
Oh by a couple months, I meant a single panic attack that lasted several months. That was my big start to the anxiety lifestyle. I've been experiencing smaller bouts since then, which is about 6 or 7 years ago now, but they're manageable, and reducing in frequency from what I can tell.
>> Anonymous
>>374051
>Oh by a couple months, I meant a single panic attack that lasted several months.
Oh yeah, I believe that man. Sounds totally legit. :/
>> Anonymous
>>374002

Depressionfag here, been diagnosed with it, it runs in the family, I've had several bouts with severe depression. All I do when I start feeling it is realize how faggy I start to sound about everything, then I go on a long walk with my dog. If I still don't feel better, I just call up a friend and go see a movie. Has never failed.

Depression can be handled without medication, you're a bit of a pussy if you can never do it and always have to rely on medicine, but there are some cases where it's too severe. What bothers me is how little credit people give to the human brain and willpower.
>> Anonymous
I was on Citalopram for my depression and it really worked at the beginning. When I tried to come off it too quickly I would get dizzy as hell.
Weaned myself off by lowering the dosage.
Best thing I ever did was going to the doctor with my mom. Except the doctor was maybe a year or two older than me.
That was the second doctor, the first doctor I went to see told me that I should "get a hobby" to take my mind off it.
>> Anonymous
I have anxiety disorder but I plan on quitting my disability soon.

I stopped taking meds last year and function normally unless shit with my girlfriend goes down.

I feel inferior and just want to pretend it doesn't exist

My girlfriend doesn't even know I have it I have hid it so well.

I don't want her to think of me as less then normal.
>> Anonymous
Exercise rapidly increases serotonin and dopamine levels, the chemicals most commonly mimicked for anti-depression drugs.

Food is filled with things called nutrients, aka chemicals. Minerals, vitamins, carbohydrates, proteins, fats, and various phytohemicals, they're all incredibly important for producing rxns within the body. It's a common misconception that food is only for your 'mussles', the nutrients found in food are also used to create neurotransmitters for the nervous system/brain. Just how a chronic deficiency in Vitamin C will cause scurvy, a chronic deficiency in B-12, folic acid, and various amino acids can cause depression.

With decreased exposure to sunlight, the biological clock that regulates mood, sleep, and hormones is delayed. More exposure to the sun corrects these imbalances.

Laughing causes certain muscles in the face and nerves to trigger electrical impulses in the brain, which send a message to release tranquilizers and other pain relievers.

Oh look, the cornerstone of modern psychiatric drugs involved in depression, serotonin and dopamine, freely available in common human behavior.
>> Anonymous
>>374041
>I've sorta given up on doctors and medicine, and as a result, I seem to get sick less often. Any time I feel I might need a doctor, if I just forget about it, what I'm suffering from will usually heal itself.
Most people don't really need to see a doctor when they get sick. A cold will just go away. Same with a flu. The doctors usually give you antibiotics to get you to go away.
>> Anonymous
>>374059
Eh I dunno if it sounds legit or not. Something happened that make me feel as if I had ruined my life. Living out the rest of it was a terrifying thought that occupied my mind every waking moment for over two months. The anxiety made me feel so sick I would rarely eat, I stopped going to work because I couldn't focus at all (eventually ended up quitting my job on bad terms) and I would spend every day laying on the couch just being around people (friends, family) because I was afraid to be alone. I lost interest in everything that amused me before (video games mainly...) would sometimes break down and just start sobbing for no apparent reason.

Sometimes I think it couldn't have been as bad as I remember, but I certainly don't want to experience it again to find out...
>> Anonymous
>>374074
Have you talked to anyone about what you're feeling? When I was sick none of my best friends, not even my brother, knew what was going on. I talked to my mom a lot though. When it first started I had no idea what I was experiencing, but after talking to my mom and realizing that she had been through the same thing, only worse, and had recovered and lived a normal life, it gave me the understanding and hope I needed to persevere.
>> Anonymous
Do moar SQUATZ, depression solved
>> Anonymous
>>374074
enjoy your SECRET HIDAN relationship
>> Anonymous
>>374076
I use to work out 4x a week. For 2 years. It did nothing for depression. It got to the point i didnt even bother working out any more since i was never hungry, got no results, and just got sore. Not bigger or stronger.
>> Anonymous
No, I just think most of today's "problems" are a bunch of made up shit created by overpaid pharma-CEOs that need to make payments on their mansions, yachts, and Bentleys.

Take a look at Ritalin. Look at how doctors throw that shit around like candy. 99% of kids on it either need moar time on the playground or need a solid ass-beating.
>> Anonymous
>>374076
Kind Sir,
I am writing to you on behalf of the information you posted in this thread. Could you please provide more information, and maybe links so I can read into it in more depth?
Thank you.
Love,
Anonymous
>> Anonymous
>>374080
If you had a real panic attack for 2 straight months you would not be alive. For one thing there's no way you could sleep during one of those. They are fucking straight out brutal. I've been dead asleep and had a panic attack in the middle of the night and was instantly awake and scared shitless for no reason. And your heart is racing off the charts because your body is flooded with an insane amount of adrenalin. It truly feels like it's the end.

There's a huge difference between experiencing some anxiety and having a panic attack.
>> Anonymous
>>374035
>>374035
>>374035
>>374035
THIS

PEOPLE CAN FUCK OFF.
VERY FEW "MENTAL ILLNESSES" EXIST AND AS FOR THE *FEW* GENUINE ONES...BLAME THE CHEMICALS AND CANCER OUR GOV'T AND THE BIG COMPANIES HAVE BEEN FEEDING AND FORCING ON US

FUCK THE WORLD
>> Anonymous
>>374070
Get a vasectomy, depression is your genes telling you are inferior. Don't spread it like your ancestors did.
>> Anonymous
honestly I'd rather have random panic attacks than 24/7 high anxiety for 2 months

panic attacks are god awful but they come then go, high anxiety is constant and terrible

and since my anxiety was pain induced it was that much harder to control. getting to the source was what I had to do first IE less pain less anxiety no pain no anxiety
>> Anonymous
Fuck you OP brah, I was diagnosed with clinical depression by my GP, and perscribed "antifagpressants" but I thought, fuck that shit, and became in denial of my depression. Guess what. It went away. Because it didn't really exist.
>> Anonymous
>>374104
Oh well maybe I meant anxiety attack, if that's any different. Somehow the only thing I could do well was sleep, it was like, my escape from worry. Pretty much every waking moment was just constant mind racing anxiety though. And by months I'd say it started out terrible and then gradually became more and more bearable as the weeks went on. It was definitely the same single worry that bothered me through the entire thing though.
>> Anonymous
>>374109
ROW ROW FIGHT DA POWA!
>> Anonymous
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>>374114
>>374109

I'M W/ U GUYS...AND THE CRUZE CTRL IS W/ US.
>> Anonymous
>>374105
>>374105
>>374105
>>374105
THIS

FUCK THE WORLD
>> Anonymous
>>374101

Most of this is off the top of my head from what I study at Uni, and there's lots of scientific literature out there. I'm headed out to the gym now so I don't feel like posting all the articles, but go to this website and follow these instructions:

1) www.pubmed.gov
2) Run a search for "exercise and depression"
3) Run a search for "nutrition and depression" and "food and depression"
4) Run a search for "sunlight and depression"
5) Run a search for "laughing and depression". This subject isn't investigate very thoroughly, so here's a good article on the subject:
>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12148458?ordinalpos=30&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed
.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

Laughing and nutrition studies are harder to find, but they're there.
>> Anonymous
i have anxiety and depression and have almost gotten rid of it in only one years time. mine was so severe i couldnt move, i thought i was insane, etc. it came up when i was attacked by a psychotic person and almost had to shoot him and was being stalked by him, etc etc.

you really just have to learn about whats going on inside of you and take steps that you know are the right thing even if its a bit uncomfortable doing so. i was on anti-anxiety and anti-depressant medication for a little while and i just knew in my heart they felt like the wrong thing to do. i didnt feel like me on them and i felt like i was addressing symptoms rather than the cause. i cut them off cold turkey and it was the best thing ive ever done. now i really know myself and whats wrong with me, and its really mostly psychological/emotional. its been really painful at times and very inspirational as well.

i have a bigger obstacle though and thats tremors. my head sometimes tremors when im stressed or my heart rate is going. this is delaying my complete recovery from anxiety and depression because indoor/intimate social situations trigger them while i feel my neck/head tightening up and ready to spasm. this first occured when i took lsd at a festival with tons of lights and smoke. ever since then stress caused little tremors in my head but after the big incident listed above in the beginning its been a core issue in my anxiety/depression.

if you do sports and exercise and distract yourself activities/jobs instead of sitting on the computer, you should be able to get rid of your anxiety/depression easily.
>> Anonymous
>>374131
Thank you Anonymous!
If I could kiss you, I would.
>> Anonymous
i remember when i first got diagnosed with panic attacks and anxiety disorder. it was probably the greatest day of my life. anyone know where i'm coming from?
>> Anonymous
>>374135
No I dont bro... I remember feeling sick when I got anxious, this of course was about pussy shit, bro...

I had to talk to people at work, and I'm a shy bro.. so it didn't go well, but bro... I got some medicine... and I've been able to manage it without the medicine since then bro.

Anyhow bros, I fucking love you guys, bros forever?
>> Anonymous
Squat deep
>> Anonymous
sauce on the emo babe OP?
>> Anonymous
shit. i started SSRIs last thursday. today ive been feeling a mild euphoria for the last hour randomly.

like a mild hydrocodone dose. 10 mg or so with out the sleepy effects.

Is this normal? Not complaining lol.

and does it happen all the time or does it go away.
>> Anonymous
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Dr. Freud frowns upon your cognitive-behaviourist bullshit.
>> Anonymous
As far as depression goes, and I mean reactionary depression, I think that when bad shit happens you should feel sad, it's natural. Why does everyone have to walk around in a drug induced stupor? Fuck, be sad nigga, it's okay to be sad when shit happens.

And I'm not talking about losing a child, a limb, an erection, serious shit where you do need pills to get through the inital trauma. I mean all the unnecessary medication, medication for profit, for incorrect diagnosis by faildoctors, the drug companies + shrinks are raping us.
>> Anonymous
i still can't believe depression as a disorder

i felt depressed 3 weeks ago after I couldn't finish a training day I brought up. I was depressed (i went out to eat with my family and didn't say a word and just stood there with a sad look on my face the whole night. i seriously thought about stop training and just become a loser again, but i quickly talked myself out of that. i was practically fighting myself in my own head for 8 hours straight.) for about 15 hours, before i woke up the next day and figured there had to be a reason other than mentally why i couldn't complete it.

figured out i wasn't eating and resting enough, and also i wasn't as strong as I thought I was. was blasting through the training for the past month, but hit a brick wall that day.

i found a reason for why i was acting like a douchebag, now find yours. you just don't wake up one day and become depressed, something has to happen to make you depressed. otherwise you're just a pussy and need to get beat up, physically and mentally because you apparently lost all your mental willpower.
>> Anonymous
Yes. It really does.

I have problems with anorexia and depression. I exercise daily. I eat healthy foods. I was on medication for my depression and it DID help slightly. But honestly, it stopped helping me so I self-medicated myself and took myself off it. I felt the same if not better.

My depression is now centralized around the time I get my period, before it was 24/7 and I was constantly thinking about killing myself. Now its just 2-5 days out of the month! D: Honestly though, I think that depression is caused by imbalanced hormones. I'm currently looking into NATURAL hormone replacement instead of synthetic ones.

I'd rather not take DRUGS to solve my problems.
>> Anonymous
>>374183
Uranium is natural.
>> Anonymous
Psychfag here.

Most depression is not diagnosed chemically imbalanced depression, but people often fall into the trap of it being that way. When you go to the doctor, and he asks if you're depressed all the time, and he asks why. Ussually you don't go "Because I'm an overweight virgin with few to any friends and no future." You go "I don't know :/". And that's all he has to go on. You haven't been honest, you've just made it seem like there's no reason for it. Exercise solves depression in two ways; it releases a lot of neat chemicals into your brain that improve mood and reorganize the proccesses going on in there The second is that it improves the look of your body, giving you more self-confidence.

As for the medication, there are three reasons doctors prescribe it. Discounting Pharm companies butt-fucking them, there are two. Because you're clinically depressed, with an imblanace that means it's not your fault. EXercise and medication will fix this. Or because you've fucked up your life, gotten depressed for good reason, and what they're trying to do is get you in a good enough mood to seek help/ get therapy/fix your problems/learn to stop being a pussy and then get off them.

Niggers.
>> Anonymous
I completely empathize with people with mental illness. Several run in my family (on both sides, actually). Unfortunately I got the sort of grab-bag of crazy. Schizophrenia, anxiety disorders, and intermittent bouts of depression.

However, I really don't sympathize with most people who "have depression" or "anxiety". Somehow I still manage to get up every morning and go to work, I still force myself to be active and social, etc. Even if that means I'm having a screaming fit in the restroom of the movie theater I still fucking deal with that. Why? Because I'm not a fucking charity case. Sure, I'm a permanent out-patient at the nearest mental hospital. But like most of the truly mentally ill people I've met, I'm doing my best to live a normal life, and doing my best to not wallow in my own health problems.

Because yeah, sure, mental illness is a little different from physical illness. But cancer patients don't go around having histrionic fits every ten minutes because BAWW I'M SICK FEEL SORRY FOR ME!

And yes, I'm on drugs for schizophrenia. I haven't taken drugs for anxiety in several years now. I've just learned to deal with the panic attacks and avoid the triggers when possible.
>> Anonymous
BUT I HAVE A CONDITION
>> Anonymous
>>374218
this mother fucker sees random hallucinations while being depressed, beat that depressedfags

stop bitching and start living, i bet most of you don't even know what the fuck you are doing with your life in 5 years. get some fucking goals, even if it's to stop being a bitch it's better than nothing.
>> Anonymous
>>374234

Scary as fuck random hallucinations, at that.

Imagine going out to eat with your friends and hearing the screaming of cows coming from the kitchen. Or how about your at the grocery store an there's a fucking eyeball rolling around on the little conveyor belt thing, and you can't say shit or even react to it because it's not really there and if you do act even vaguely freaked out that nice lady at the cash register is going to think you're a fucking lunatic.
>> Anonymous
>>374002

I went through a year-long depression, left university, played wow the whole year, avoided responsabilities and friends, aswell as family.
Then after a year I realized I couldnt go on like that and snapped out of it. Im pretty happy with myself nowadays
>> Anonymous
>>374246

well you are a lunatic, but i agree don't scare random people because then they'll lose faith in humanity just like i did once i found out so many people are leading worthless lives.

when the biggest day of your life revolves around a TV and a football game with a bunch of loser friends you know you hit rock bottom, seriously fucking climb a mountain, sky dive, pick up practice shooting, build a fucking gym in your garage. DO SOMETHING FUCKING HELL
>> Anonymous
DON\'T LAUGH, I HAVE A CONDITION!
>> Anonymous
>>374002

MOAR PICS OF THIS BABE, bro
>> suicidal thoughts Anonymous
when you find yourself contemplating suicide, that's called 'suicidal ideation'. Why it happens no one quite knows. But it seems to happen to people caught in a Catch-22. A damned if you do damned if you don't scenario. If you understand that thoughts of suicide are really just an error, like a computer error, when your brain is confronted with too many paradoxes, the mind makes a mistake and logically concludes that if you killed yourself all your problems would magically be solved, which isn't really true.

If you think about suicidal thoughts like this, like a computer error made by your brain when it's trapped in a paradox, then it's much less frightening. You realize these thoughts are not compulsory. You don't have to listen to them or give them any weight. They can be ignored. You can say to yourself "there it goes again, suicidal ideation" then you can more easily ignore it and surf more 4chan.

Of course you may still want to seek help, but this is a trick that you can easily do to cope with suicidal thoughts. The first time you consider the possibility of killing yourself can be horrifically frightening. But once you realize it's just a false conclusion reached by your mind, it isn't so scary. You can even get a black sense of humor out of it by laughing it off.
>> Anonymous
>>374253
>well you are a lunatic

Thanks.

I just can't help but feel that most people are absolutely pathetic. Especially comparing my life and the lives of most of the other schizos I've met from the out-patient crew with the "normal" people I meet every day. It's like, what are you actually doing with your life? You're in a dead end job looking for Mr. or Mrs. Right, and you spend all day either online or watching TV.

Compare that to all my outpatient friends. All of us have some kind of hobby, we make a point to get out, we try and have social lives...

I guess paraplegics and other cripples must feel the same way. Like, "Why are you overweight? You have legs, get off your fat ass and walk."
>> Anonymous
>>374267
the only people i would still respect after they committed suicide would be people who are being tortured endlessly, or someone that was in a survival situation and was dehydrating to the point where they start hallucinating shit and cannot even get up to search for water and just waste away.

maybe some other incidents, but i mean there have been some crazy folks who get stuck on a raft in the ocean for months at a time that cope and survive. you cunt chops sitting at your thousand dollar computer, eating regularly, drinking clean water, have a loving family, what the fuck is wrong with you? everything you have to worry about is given to you, and you still have a reason to be depressed for months?

get your fucking shit together.
>> Anonymous
>>374246
audio hallucinations suck, because you can't find out where their coming from
>> Shawn Eater
>>374002
Listen to this man. He speaks the truth.
>> Anonymous
>It has nothing to do with being a pussy only

read OP and yes it does. I've been severely depressed(had thoughts of suicide) been a hikamori/NEET(for 2 whole wasteful years of my life), had EXTREME social phobia(in hs and for year of college I never talked to anyone went out of my way to avoid social encounters) . The reason why? Simply I was weak. When you stop being such a bitch and try to develop a better outlook on your life and try to keep positive, then the world will become a better place for you. If you allow yourself to sink into your "mental illness" then you will only get worse and recovery will get harder. Simply put. Stop being a fucking pussy and face your fears.
>> Anonymous
In this day and age and country, it's just fucking annoying hearing all of the little teenagers whining about their bi-polar disorder, depressionfaggotry and whatever else they want to have as an affliction.

I guess it just irks me because I want to see people take a little more responsibility for themselves as opposed to using excuse after excuse.
>> Anonymous
>>374283

Mine seem to almost always come from a specific location. It's generally a fairly nonsensical location (minus the occasional 'cows are screaming in the kitchen' moment), but they do come from specific directions. I think the last audio hallucination I had was last week. It sounded like something was whispering behind the refrigerator.

Over the past year or so I've slowly been moving from entirely audial to only partially audial. I've been getting some pretty freaky visual hallucinations, but I think now I'm mostly getting olfactory shit. Those are way more disconcerting than the regular whispers and singing, because they always hit when I'm like eating or cooking or something. It's fucking gross to be eating a salad that smells like rotten meat, or a steak that smells like watermelon (I'm so sick of watermelon).
>> Anonymous
>>374218
This.
I was diagnosed with clinical depression when I was 13, but goddamn I never use that to get attention. It's just an illness. I'm in the process of getting off of my meds, and I've really never felt better. I'm exercising, eating lots of fruit and now I have really great friends that make it all better. And yeah, sometimes it bites me in the ass and I feel like shit and don't want to do anything but cry and lay around all day, but I don't. I get the fuck out and make myself feel better.

tl;dr Meds help but they're not a cure.
>> Anonymous
In my experience, 9/10 depression has a real-life cause that people are either unwilling to confront or unwilling to admit.
>> Anonymous
I've been depressed (apathetic, cant sleep right, no appetite, loss of interest in hobbies,) and anxious since I was 14. I didn't know what it was until I was 17. I started exercising and eating better at 17. I used to live off hot pockets and cheetos. Started eating sandwiches, bread, pasta, fuit steak etc...

Did nothing really. You can't see my ribs any more, but I'm still thin for a man. I still get anxious, still have problems sleeping, appetite didnt come back, etc.. Got to the point where I just gave up working out because I stopped giving a shit and it wasnt fun any more. I was forcing myself to "just do it anyways" for a year. Didn't get better.

Lost interest in video games, use to love them now I can only play them for a bit before I get bored and stop caring.

don't like hanging out with friends any more. never was social to begin with but I want nothing now. Again, I can force myself to do things, but it sucks doing them.

I really don't see forcing yourself to get out and do things as a cure for depression. i've done that for years now. Sure you can do the things but you have no enjoyment from it. So whats the point? just expending energy to interact or do things for no joy in return.

I made myself do all the things I like but I just dont like anything any more really. Drugs helped. I use to abuse vicodin and tramadol. That made me happy and not anxious. But I ran out of supply and i was using illegally.

Just recently went to a doc for help. Benzos did nothing for me, got a rx for lorazepam. Unless I took 8 pills I didnt feel shit. And even then i just walked into walls or went to sleep when i tried. Doc then put me on zoloft last week. Dunno if it will help. If it doesn't I think I'll try and get some opiates again by stealing them or something. I was more social, happy, enjoyed talking to people, etc...
>> Anonymous
>>374010
as a victim of an anxiety disorder I agree with what this anon has to say, never did I see so much of an improvement on medication as I did when I changed my diet and started exercising regularly

>>374022
>>374070
>>374073
>>374132
>>374183

all of these anons are recommending the very thing that helped me the most op! so if you haven't tried this yet please do!!

I don't doubt the medicinal portion of the therapy but it was far more beneficial to me get a hobby, exercise, and just get more active!
>> Anonymous
>>374400

you can't be that apathetic, i used to be a major apathetic chump. back in high school i had to do a presentation on something i strongly disagreed with. i had to sit there for about 3 hours before i actually figured i don't give a shit, and finally did it on smoking because it was easy.

2 years later, i can't see how i was like that. it fucking boggles the mind how i could be so blind and ignorant at the same time. you would never see me so uninteresting and apathetic again, it's so boring that i would literally search the world for something to care about if i was that disinterested.
>> Anonymous
I had to stop eating strongly flavored foods in order to get my brain to work right so yeah, fuck anyone who thinks mental illness is some kind of moral failing.
>> Anonymous
I want to suck her tits.
>> Dr. Baron von Evilsatan
It is a mistake to think that all mental disorders are caused by stupid thinking. There are quite a few of them, mostly the particularly serious ones, that can be blamed on your brain not working. These can't be thought away, and in many cases, medication is vital.

There are those diseases that are often questionably diagnosed, the ones whose presence can only be determined by symptoms and subjective symptoms at that. The problem here is in diagnosis. A good number of people diagnose themselves with the disease, deciding that they have it because it explains away a number of their flaws and eliminates the need for them to fix them. You can't diagnose yourself with a disease that has verifiable lab tests, how the fuck can you diagnose yourself with subjective symptoms you don't really pay attention to? And then, even when people go to the psychologist, they end up lying all the time, whether they realise it or not, and so the psychologist doesn't stand a chance. Most commonly peopel say they don't know instead of sayign they never thought about it. FUCKING DON'T. The latter is almost certainly what yo mean. The former means you have tried to figure these things out and found no explanation, which is a sign of a chemical Imbalance.
>> Dr. Baron von Evilsatan
The worst is shitty parents. They see their kid not doing what they want, send them to a psychologist who gets nothing useful out of the kid since they have no self-analysis skills. Thye are then forced to rely on the parents, who will say they don't know why the child does it. If they are good parents, they say thi because they tried and failed to explain the behaviour. If they are bad parents it's because they don't know a fuckign thing about their child. Both kids end up medicated, the former needed it, but the latter will just get worse now. Recently in Australia, it was found that a whole fucking quarter of ADD diagnosed kids actually had a small and easily-corrected eye problem, and are now fucked up because ADD meds make it worse. Shitty parents blamed psychologists because nobody will ever call themselves a shitty parent, but the psychologists just had to work with the load of crap the parents said.
>> Anonymous
FUCK I WORK OUT LIKE A MADMAN AND I STILL DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT ANYTHING. What the fuck is wrong with me? I _want_ to care about family, work and making friends but I just don't care, that little spark that ignites my caring cylinder just doesn't fire. All I do is sleep when I get home from work and workout first thing in the morning. I'm getting fed up with this. It's aggravating when I WANT to change but something is inhibiting me from taking that first step.
>> Dr. Baron von Evilsatan
The real big problem is people who use their mental illness, real or imagined, as an excuse to never improve themselves or make any effort at anything. These idiots are the biggest problem people with real problems face, because thanks to these clowns hardly anyone taks them seriously.

NEWSFLASH: Even if you really have a problem, it doesn't fucking excuse you from being a member of society, you still have to work at that. At most, it means that you'll be given a little more tolerance than others for social difficulties as long as people can recognise you're making an effort. You may be willing to accept all your failings that could be corrected by any effort at all because of the Mental Illness card, but YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE.

My younger brother is like this. He always had big social problems, but was trying to fix them. Then, he got diagnosed with Asperger's. He has since decided that not only does that excuse all his problems, but it allows him to adopt a whole new set of assholisms. After years of telling him that he still has to work in the real world, I've given up. I can't wait for him to find out just how far he's going to get in reality when he reacts to any comment that is not praise with animalistic rage.
>> Anonymous
>>374518

I feel ya bro. I was the exact same way for most of high school and college, but all I can say is you're doing it right. I wanted so badly to be normal, to actually feel something for somebody else. Senior year in college was when I finally started feeling any emotions at all. Never knew why I was so emotionally numb in the first place, but you have to want to have those kinds feelings. Idk what else to say, except that just keep telling yourself that you want them, and eventually they'll come. Maybe its some kind of conscious/subconscious thing. Fuck, this shit sounds so gay.
>> Anonymous
I have schizotypal disorder (without the paranoia, thank the gods) and can't really keep many friendships or relationships for long. I don't get attached to people like that, so it's no big deal to me when they (or I) move on. I also have to deal with hallucinations on a near-daily basis, mostly auditory.

I was diagnosed with this by the oh-so charming people at Dorothea Dix when I was seven years old, and have never been on any medication for it. My family has a long history of mental illness, so this wasn't too surprising. My mom was adamant about me not being on drugs or institutionalized, and I learned to fucking love not having close friends.

TL;DR Adapt when your brain starts to fuck up.