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i hear that sit up is not a good way to get good abs. does anyone know another way to work the ab muscles?
>> Anonymous
I've always heard that hanging from a chinup bar and doing knee ups or leg lifts is the very best way.
>> Anonymous
Incline Crunches with added weight.
>> Anonymous
you can't "get" abs, everyone has them. it's fat covering yours. seriously. look up HIIT, eat right, AND do full body workouts [squats, deadlifts, burpees, jumping jacks]

train your body as a unit, not as a bunch of separate pieces.
>> Anonymous
>>139174

to extent that is true. You can be awfully skinny but if you don't exercise your abomdinal muscles, you won't get the desired look of having them protrude from your abdomen.
>> Anonymous
Rectus? Damn near killed us.
>> Anonymous
>>139174
Oh god please don't say burpees, hardest exercise ever!!
The only ab exercise I do is sit ups and I am happy with my six pack... I'm not fat though.
>> Anonymous
When people talk about "abs" they usually aren't actually talking about the muscles. Your abdominal muscles are paired muscles running vertically down your torso, no matter how much ab work you do you ain't going to have a visible 6 pack. The 6 pack, or tendinous inscription, is made of connective tissue, thus you cannot change their shape or size at all. The only way to make these visible is by having an extremely low bodyfat percentage, or bizarre genetics.
>> sage
>>139333

This is either a troll, a fat idiot, or both.
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>>139333
>you cannot change their shape or size at all
Bullshit. Look at this pic and tell me the abs of the guy on the left are the same size as the guy on the right. That's not genetics, that's the result of different training.
>> Anonymous
>>139333

The tape measure says differently. Try ditching gay crunches and doing cable pulldowns and hanging leg raises.
>> Anonymous
>>139358
his abs are the same shape, just have more hypertrophy

you = fail
>> Anonymous
>>139395
Hey foo, pay attention, will ya?
>Look at this pic and tell me the abs of the guy on the left are the same ____size____ as the guy on the right
I was only attacking half of his point, which should have been pretty clear by my not mentioning the shape.

It was included in the quote for the sake of keeping it a little more self-contained, so people don't have to click the link to see the rest of what he said for it to make sense.
>> Anonymous
>>139349
>>139358
It's connective tissue, not a muscle. Find a single solitary source that proves me wrong, I dare you.
>> Anonymous??
>>139406
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>> Anonymous
>>139403

he just worded it wrong
>> Anonymous
>>139407
Okay,
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Linae-transversae
Clearly states it is a tendon, not a muscle. I've never heard of someone getting bigger tendons by training, have you?
>> Anonymous
>>139358

Optical illusion. Guy on the right is "larger" because his low body fat level is causing his flesh to become more taut over his muscles.

A simple fact is that everyone, even massively obese people, have the same looking ab muscles. They're naturally the most worked muscles in your body next to your quads, because your abs are "worked" constantly just supporting your upper body.

Don't fight nature. If you could enlarge your abs the way you enlarged your arms, pecs or leg muscles, you'd have LOADS of health problems and probably some ruptured organs. Everything is packed in pretty tight between your waist and upper chest, there is simply very little room for your ab muscles to grow.

While I'm dispelling some common anatomy myths, I'd like to state that regular, healthy humans do, in fact, use 100% of their brains at all times during their lives unless they are affected by some sort of "third party" source of damage, such as a stroke or strong blow to the head. There is no such thing as a human, even extremely mentally handicapped humans, who use only 10% of their brain...they'd be unable to survive if this were true as most of their organs and systems would have no functionality at all.
>> Anonymous??
>>139414
WHY DON'T YOU ASK THUNDER'S PLACE?
>> Anonymous
>>139414
>If well-defined, the rectus abdominis is colloquially called a "six-pack." This is due to tendinous intersections within the muscle
>tendinous intersections within the muscle
>the muscle
Rectus abdominus is crossed with tendinous sheaths, which explains the indentation. The "packs" are regular ol' muscle
http://sportsmedicine.about.com/od/abdominalcorestrength1/ss/AbAnatomy_2.htm
>> Anonymous
>>139438

Right, and>>139424explained pretty well why abs don't "grow". The tendons, coupled with limited space among all your vital organs, provides little room for growth.
>> Anonymous
>>139438
Your source says that the rectus abdominus is
a "long, flat muscle" The "packs" are laying on top of the muscle, connecting with it, that's what tendons do... Durr.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linea_alba_%28abdomen%29
Says "it consists of only connective tissue," Please give a source with relevant information, please.
>> Anonymous
>>139452
http://www.deskjockeyfitness.com/Articles/NL0603/Dave.html
>According to Dr. Kravitz, the only muscle that can experience through hypertrophy by weight training is the rectus abdominus (RA), the six-pack muscle.
So far I'm the only one that's actually posted anything resembling proof. The link in>>139414actually helped prove my point. It've personally experienced noticeable growth in my abdominal muscles when I put on a lot of muscle in high school after having previously been a skinny fuck with a skinny guy 6 pack.

There isn't much to it. The tendons can't grow much at all, but the regular muscle tissue inbetween is just as susceptible to hypertrophy as any other muscle; but it's difficult to put the resistance required on it without hurting yourself.
>> Anonymous
Doing sit-ups is fine, just go slowly and tighten your abs while you rise and fall, this helps A LOT.
>> Anonymous
>>139464
Because I'm not talking about the Linea alba, I'm talking about the rectus abdominus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rectus_abdominis
>The rectus abdominis muscle (commonly known as "abs") [...]
>The Rectus abdominis is a long flat muscle, which extends along the whole length of the front of the abdomen, and is separated from its fellow of the opposite side by the linea alba

I may very well be getting trolled, but I don't want any lurkers getting the wrong information, you guys are ridiculous.
>> Anonymous
>>139358
1. Model lighting can give most people abs.
2. Guy in second pic also has lower BF
3. Same shape, just lower bf and more muscle mass.

FAIL
>> Anonymous
>>139512
>The Rectus abdominis is a long flat muscle
>long flat muscle
Thanks for proving my point. Long flat muscle mean's it's not the "6 pack", which obviously isn't flat. You know why a "6 pack" is called inscriptions tendinea? I'll give you a hint. "tendinea" doesn't mean "muscle" in Latin.
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>>139520
At this point I have no other option but to assume you're just fucking with me, but I'm stubborn, so fuck it.
http://www.yorku.ca/earmstro/journey/abdominals.html
>Starting from the pubic bone, these muscles connect with the fifth, sixth and seventh ribs and xiphoid process. They are divided into compartments by strips of tendon that creates what body builders inaccurately call a "six pack"

The linea alba runs vertically, and shows as a center divider for the rectus abdominus. The rectus abdominus is not complete "flat", as it's divided by the aforementioned strips of tendons.

Besides, if it were NOTHING BUT tendon, you couldn't do anything with them
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tendon#Anatomy
>While they exert no pulling force of their own, tendons transfer the contractions of muscles and can exert an elastic force if forcibly stretched
So if it's not all tendon, that means there's muscle. If there's muscle, it can grow.

FFS, you can't seriously be that stupid, quit glancing over shit.