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Nomad
I just went to do my normal check of stronglifts to see if hes posted any new articles.. I noticed something odd. He changed the setup for 5x5. .. he subed inverted bench for bar bell rows and subed pushups for dips. amongst other changes. what does fit think of these changes? are they effective or should i keep doing the old setup ?
>> Anonymous
its an ever increasingly, progressive bastardization of the original Bill Starr program

its the commentary i've always made, just worse now than before

the changes concern 'making things easier' so you 'dont hurt yourself' with 'dangerous free weights'

do it right,
POWER CLEANS>rows>inverted rows (still a great movement, but considering what it replaced....)
>> Nomad
>>358141
that was kind of my thoughts to inverted rows... . so youre advise is keeping going as originally intended.
>> Anonymous
>>358146

im apparently the wrong person to ask this stuff, as i'm obviously disconnected from the general pop on this subject.

just one thing to think about, 'what is the formal AND informal training/exercise physiology background of the guy who did the stronglifts shit? compared to Rip? compared to BILL STARR?'

there is no god. but IF there was in the 5x5 world, it sure as shit wouldnt be some under 200lb random from holland when those other 2 would be on the ballot.
>> Anonymous
>>358161
Absolutely seconded. IMO You will not have the same gains in strength from these other movements that are being used as replacements. What you're going to end up with is fucking curls 5x5. Squat BenchPress Power clean. And starr for the motherfucking win.
>> Anonymous
Man, I really hate you guys. I've been doing Stronglifts 5x5 for the last two weeks on the recommendation of /fit/. And now you're saying it's shit?
>> Anonymous
>>358200
No quite the contrary my fellow anon. 5x5 does rock and can show massive gains. I just don't agree with the switching out of the orginal movements.

I only do 5x5 squats though. Bench Press I do 3x8 then decrease weight in a reverse pyramid manner and do til failure or til I get down to about half the weight I was originally doing. Same with almost everything else.