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This is the wrong place to ask this, but I need help. I'm 21 years old and I think I'm finally coming to grips with the fact that I've been depressed for seven years now. I'm not sure, which is why I'm going to consult a counselor and see if it really IS something wrong with me or if I'm just baaaawwwwing.
Has anyone else here ever dealt with depression with assistance? I'm just curious how it will all go.

Thanks.
>> Anonymous
Don't get to the point where you think of you being depressed as you being a victim. I have family members who have done this and they have SPIRALED into worse and worse depression.
>> Anonymous
>>318923
I don't really see myself as a victim. I've had a decent life, I have good stuff going for me, but for some reason, I'll just come totally fucking unglued every couple days; get mad, feel worthless, think about engineering a situation where I could die, hate people for no reason, etc. I feel like it's finally time I stop shitting around and take care of it.
>> Anonymous
>>318933
Good. Have you ever seen a counselor/psychologist before? You should sort of... take charge of the situation. Don't look to them as godlike witchdoctors who will magically be able to answer all your questions. Take charge of the situation on the first day to set the tone of future meetings.
>> Anonymous
>>318937
How would one take charge?
I've never done anything like this before. I attributed all problems to personal weakness and not having done the right thing, and I'm just now starting to realize that maybe I'm ignoring an elephant in the room simply because I'm too vain to accept that there's something wrong with me.
>> Anonymous
>>318943
Tell them straight out what you want out of the meetings, and what you think about your depression/problems. Don't be helpless. Give them your opinion on what's going on with you. Ask questions when you want to. Blah blah blah etc. Just be active in the meetings in a way where you are the... customer as well as the patient.
>> Anonymous
>>318933

I used to be the same way. Around people I'd be completely happy and normal, but there would be times were I thought about the same things you did (feeling worthless, suicidal thoughts, etc.). I never went to a counselor or really talked about it for that matter. I realized that I was just being a pussy and realized I actually have a better life than a lot of people. I started working out and generally felt way the fuck better about everything.

tl;dr a healthy dose of SQAUTZ and stop being a pussy helps
>> Anonymous
>This is the wrong place to ask this
>> Anonymous
>>318950tl;dr a healthy dose of SQAUTZ and stop being a pussy helps

This is very good advice for the general population (I know from personal experience). But it sounds like OP may have clinical depression, which is a whole new ball game.

OP, before you go to a psych (which I think would be a good idea, I'm not telling you to second guess that), I think you should look at the major aspects of your life and see if there's anything you're unhappy with or anything that feels unfulfilling.
>> Anonymous
I REALLY don't like shrinks. It's like putting my faith in some random average person to analyze my problems and pretend to be able to see into the way my mind works. The only good shrinks I've had have backed off and let me lead the way to solve my problems while giving me suggestions, and general advice.
>> Anonymous
dude I have major depression and sadly I haven't found anyone that helps me so I made my own Theraphies and bought my own medications analyze yourself write down your simptons google them find medication and with that try to be happy its the best I can do for you.
>> Anonymous
If they try to stuff you with pills right off the bat, find a new doctor.
>> Anonymous
>>318971
>If they try to stuff you with pills right off the bat, find a new doctor.
>If they try to stuff you with pills right off the bat, find a new doctor.
>If they try to stuff you with pills right off the bat, find a new doctor.
>If they try to stuff you with pills right off the bat, find a new doctor.
>If they try to stuff you with pills right off the bat, find a new doctor.
>If they try to stuff you with pills right off the bat, find a new doctor.
>If they try to stuff you with pills right off the bat, find a new doctor.
>If they try to stuff you with pills right off the bat, find a new doctor.
>If they try to stuff you with pills right off the bat, find a new doctor.
QFT.
>> Anonymous
>>318966

that random average person has generally been in school for at least 8 years, so its not like they're just pulling stuff out of their ass. if you don't want to get stuffed with pills then go see a psychologist instead of a psychiatrist.
>> Anonymous
>>318979
I understand this. They just... don't... listen. It's amazingly stupid that they are supposed to have magic insight when they haven't even known me for very long and only know me inside the meetings.
>> Anonymous
everyone's teenage years sucked

get over it
>> Anonymous
>>318998
Sure, they don't know you. But their job is to glean your problems from cursory interrogation and once the diagnosis is done, they begin to figure out to help you.

Just because they don't know you doesn't mean they don't know what's wrong with you and how to fix it. If it's not working, you've probably just got a shitty doctor.
>> Anonymous
>>318998
>It's amazingly stupid that they are supposed to have magic insight when they haven't even known me for very long

Yeah, yeah, everyone is unique. No depression is exactly the same as some other depression.

But good psychs know techniques that will help a large percentage of the people that come in. Because we're all human, and we have a lot in common. Most depressions are gonna have feelings of worthlessness, suicidal thoughts, disturbed sleep schedule, anhedonia, etc. And psychs can give you exercises to help that.

Cognitive behavioral therapy and exercise got my head right.

tl;dr psychs are actually pretty cool.
>> Anonymous
>>318979
yeah seriously, don't take pills. First thing you should start doing is at least break a sweat everyday working out. Going beyond that would help but it can be hard in the beginning, especially from the sound of your situation.

Second, see a COUNSELOR not a psychiatrist, the latter will do nothing but load you up with pills from a pharmaceutical company that gives them big screen tv's and vacations to the bahamas.
>> Anonymous
Shrinks/therapists/psychologists are for insecure females who have no common sense or problem solving skills. Like others said, they are normal human beings who won't really help you. In fact, they may be worse off mentally than you. Sometimes, it's just you needing to talk to someone about your problems. I think that's all the therapists are there for, someone to talk to, just to get it off your chest. But you could always do that to your local bartender.

Anyways, I have depression, never seen a shrink or anything. But mine is more of imbalance of chemicals in the brain. I've been depressed since I was a kid, and when they finally put me on medication (welbutrin) everything suddenly went away. I don't really suggest going on medications (especially SSRI's) unless you're really suicidal. They fuck with your head, but better off fucked in the head/happy than depressed/suicidal/dead. I still do get depressed from time to time again while on meds, but those are from solvable problems only I can fix. Evaluate yourself like others said, find out the source of the depression, and try to fix it. If you can't, that's when you go to others for help.
>> Anonymous
OP here. Thanks for the responses.
>>319023
>>318950
Already do. The average workout for me is now 1.5 miles of swimming, a 45 minute weight workout, a five-minute ab circuit, and if I feel like, bouldering and rock climbing. I'm not some fat sack. Thanks for reading, though.

>>319022
Exercises, eh? What are we talking about?
>> Anonymous
>>319009
OP here: It's not really even that. I've spent months at a time with my baseline mood being rage and disgust. I dream of a world in flames and chaos. I feel like I don't know what it is to see myself as "good" anymore, but everyone around me has only the most positive things to say. Even when I ASK to be criticized, I get told that I'm doing fine and shouldn't worry. However, when I screw up, I ruin a lot of things. There just seems to be no clear continuum on what I do anymore.
>> Anonymous
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Psychiatrists are useless assholes.

You have two options for therapizing yourself:

A) Talk to your best friend for as many hours on end as it takes to get everything out and find a solution. You can never pay anyone to help you with your mind. Unless someone cares about you, there is no point in talking to them about anything meaningful.

B) If you have no close friends, you must isolate yourself, stop playing video games, stop distracting yourself, and immerse yourself in deep thought until you find out what the root of your problems are, and how to fix them.

Or you could just do what everyone else on /fit/ does and try to get fit and buff to compensate for your lack of feeling good about yourself. It works. Pic related... it's my girlfriend.
>> Anonymous
>>319314

Of course. Damn them uselessness for helping the people with actual psychiatric problems.
>> Anonymous
People who eat healthily and exercise are often happier. Do that.

Also, take St. John's Wort twice a day,with food. It is a natural mood elevator.

Quit bawwing. No one can help you but you. A psychiatrist is just someone who gets paid to listen. You'd be just as well off posting on Craigslist asking for a friend to talk to about anything and everything, both ways, to help each other figure life out or some bullshit.

Faceless anonymity and honesty.
>> Anonymous
/fit/ is shit

Mental disorders don't exist on /fit/. And if they do, working out MUST cure them.

Go to a fucking doctor dumb shit.
>> Anonymous
>>319314
I don't agree, for someone who has been having trouble in the last couple of years I feel that talking to somebody that doesn't know you or the situation you're in personal is a much better belief.

Even with your best friend you'll have the feeling you have to hold back, because you will have to have some kind of social relationship after it's over. Most people are not fit to handle real psychological issues of others. Only the every day stuff.

Also, your second option could basically turn the guy into a sociopath or a hero. It's complete bullshit.
>> Anonymous
>>318916
Man the fuck up faggot. Find some heavy shit and lift it, asshole.