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Progression Anonymous
I started working out a month ago, but I feel like I'm not building mass as fast as I should/could be. This is a picture of my bi-weekly progression, starting with me a month ago on the left, before I started working out. The picture on the very right is me today.

Does this seem slow to you guys?

My meal plan is essentially the same every day:

Breakfast
Corn flakes or Cheerios with milk + a waffle and juice, 1 scoop of protein powder(30g)

Lunch
Two lean turkey and egg sandwiches + milk
Possibly another snack if I have time

Supper
Large plate of pasta (tomato sauce, sausage, fresh vegetables) or Stir Fry, milk
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>> Anonymous
Also post your own progression pics. I want to see them
>> Anonymous
you didnt change at all
>> Anonymous
You're not going to see much progress in 2 week intervals....
stop worrying about it and let your workouts become routine, in 2-3 months you'll start to see some decent changes.

also.. for best results replace cereal with OATZ and stop eating carbs for dinner.
>> Anonymous
post pics in like 4-5 months lol
>> Anonymous
>>411933
Ah see that is exactly why I posted this! Am I not eating enough?
>> Anonymous
>>411935
what's wrong with carbs
>> Anonymous
Your diet is shit.

No progress yet, but you just started, and you will probably not see any difference two weeks apart. Just keep lifting and eat better.
>> Anonymous
>>411941

They're best eaten in the morning or post workout.

Lots of things are wrong with eating carbs when you don't need them... and especially before going to bed. They're a big source of quick energy and if that energy isn't used, it's stored.
>> Anonymous
>>411933
actually he went from red to white to red
>> Anonymous
well the guy isn't cutting he wants to put mass on and he isn't gonna be eating 2,000 calories or so a day by just eating protein

he needs complex carbs, whole wheat pasta, oatz, pb&j

all dat


are you counting your calories OP?
>> Anonymous
>>411952

it's still useless to eat a big plate of pasta before bed unless you really love being fat
>> Anonymous
>>411952
nope, I just eat until I'm full
>> Anonymous
>>411953
You fail at physiology.

Want to have energy to workout the next day? Eat carbs the day before.

But watch out! If you eat carbs after 3pm the fat fairy will get you!

This is so damn stupid
>> Anonymous
>>411960
i work out at 7 am
>> Anonymous
eat till you are full and THEN SOME

EAT EAT EAT EAT GOD DAMN EAT SO MUCH YOU HATE EATING

keep it clean though ofc
>> Anonymous
you could also post your routine
>> Anonymous
excess carbs is stored as fat by the body
>> Anonymous
>>411983
ok

(based on heaviest weights possible for 5rep)
day 1
drop snatch 100% 3x3 (go to max for 3 reps)
snatch push press behind the neck 5x5 100%
back squat 5x5 (as much as possible for 5x5)
back extension 3x10

day 2
front squat 5x5 100% (as much as possible for 5x5)
press (no leg drive) 5x5
romanian deadlift 5x5
dips
pullups 25 reps

day 3

overhead squat 6x3 100%
back squat 4x3
push press 5x5
I also do active recovery training with pushups and situps (do 10-15 at different times in the day) every non training day
>> Anonymous
>>411989
but excess fats are stored in the body as fats as well. protein too. your point is moot. if anything, only 30% of the calories from carbs and protein can be stored as fat if in excess, due to thermogenics and conversion, so carbs are nothing to worry about.

however, you if eat a sufficient amount of fats in place of carbs, this will mobilize fat stores to be used as energy while you sleep. but dont go overboard.
>> Anonymous
>>411998

if your body is burning primarily ketones and you eat mostly fat (and little carbs) then you will always be burning fat.

otherwise if you eat a high carb diet you will be always burning carbs therefore not burning fat at all, not even in sedentary activity which most of primary fat burning happens if you burn ketones.

of course this only happens when you eat around 50-80g carbs a day, which is very hard to do if you eat grains, infact i believe it to be quite impossible to do if you eat grains/beans/legumes/high amounts of fruit
>> Anonymous
protein not carbs. especially after workout
>> Anonymous
spaghetti is so delicious why do you badmouth it
>> Anonymous
just to give you an idea of how hard it is to stay under 80g of carbs a day

1 apple = 30g carbs
12oz chocolate milk = 36g
1 banana = 30g
1 tbsp honey = 18g
1 tsp sugar = 4g
1/4 cup of steel cut oats = 29g
>> Anonymous
>>412007
>>otherwise if you eat a high carb diet you will be always burning carbs therefore not burning fat at all, not even in sedentary activity which most of primary fat burning happens if you burn ketones.

yes but it depends on how you space it and how high you mean by high carb diet

doesn't look like OP is doing TOO bad with dinner, given he works out right aftewards. so long as most of those carbs are burned before he goes to bed, he can still mobilize fat stores for metabolism while he sleeps. it's not the best way, he's definitely fucking it up there, but the fat is still getting used sometime in there.
>> Anonymous
>>412018

i average around 100g carbs a day and i eat nothing listed above (except 12oz chocolate milk) and 1 apple a week. most of my carbs (about 50g) comes from vegetables alone (cauliflower, spinach, brocolli, asparagus) and the rest comes from nuts.

i am going off chocolate milk as a recovery drink next week, and instead going to eat 80% of my vegetables as a post workout meal alone with 10-12g protein shake.

then i believe i will average around 70g carbs a day
>> Anonymous
>>412020
7 am is in the morning
>> Anonymous
>>412020

if i were to put his diet in fitday it would probably be around 50-60% carbs, he is probably not utilizing any of his fat stores as energy as he's eating carbs throughout the day in forms of bread and grains
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>>412015

You gots to eat LOTSA SPAGHETTI!
>> Anonymous
the thing is you want to gain mass in the best way possible and that is losing 1-2# of fat while gaining 2-3# of muscle, this process takes a long time, over 6 months and in some cases a year with strict diet consisting of mostly fats, 150-200g carbs, and enough protein for each lb of lean body mass.

but if all you want to do is gain weight then just stuff down 4000 calories a day in anyway you can, but you won't be losing fat as fast as you would if you were you play around with lowering carbs and kicking up protein and fats.
>> Anonymous
You look like a fat ass.
I can see those fucking red marks, ew.

You need to lose fat, not "gain mass", you're just gaining mass.

Run fatty.
>> Anonymous
>>412051

retard look at him, he is skinny fat

OP is right in wanting to gain lean mass first
>> Anonymous
Skinny fat can never gain lean mass before they get rid of their fat love handles and gut.

Go ahead and get bigger OP, have fun gaining MORE weight to your already huge sides and gut, then not being able to take it off haha.
>> Anonymous
You're grown to 150% your original size, I really don't see what the problem is.
>> Anonymous !Nigger/OcE
lol, OP looks the same in all 3 fucking pictures. What the fuck OP?
>> Anonymous
ok god THIS WHOLE THREAD HAS THROWN ME FOR A LOOP FUCK

(not OP)

I've been cutting for a good 4-5 months and eating moderate carbs or at least what I think is moderate, around 150-200g daily

i get it all from oatz, milk, and veggies mainly

and being around 1500 cals daily was rough, or even under that to lose fat.

now when I bulk I need to be at like, 2,000+ calories

how do I eat all that?

I mean I have the time and money to do that but what's the best route to bulk(other than eating obviously more lean protein)? I read that eating alot of whole wheat pasta and things were good, and milk

ffffffffffff