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Anonymous
hey /fit/ are diet sodas just as bad a regular
>> Hymn !i/klqpUJoU
yes
>> Anonymous
worse in fact, imagine that
>> Hammerknife !7ITukp3Pj2
Yes, drinking diet soda is the reason why babies die of SIDS.
>> Anonymous
Yes, possibly worse.
>> Anonymous
Dont drink soda or at least VERY infrequently, period
>> Anonymous
>>21721
Avoiding drinking anything with fake sugars or high fructose corn syrup is a good idea. This includes load of store bought teas, sodas, juices, etc.
>> Anonymous
Diet sodas are healthier than water.
>> Anonymous
>>21736

troll
>> Anonymous
>>21736

The trolls are adapting to our weapons.
>> Anonymous
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i've actually found a 2 liter of diet something is the best way to stave off cravings...ginger ale or 7up, something w/o caffeine so i dont go throught the ceiling.

also, no one gave a reason why diet soda is bad.
>> Anonymous
I heard that they are more acidic than regular sodas. So basically, they'll erode your teeth faster.
Enjoy your rotten teeth.
>> Anonymous
>>22542
Diet soda's claim to have no sugar but instead have artificial sugar which is just as bad if not worse for you
>> Anonymous
>>22547
There's no conclusive evidence that suggests artificial sweeteners are terribly harmful to humans.
>> Anonymous
>>22550
how much inconclusive evidence is there
>> Anonymous
>>22550

yes there is
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080210183902.htm

normal and diet soda is bad for you, try bionade (google it) if they sell it in your country, its the only "healthy" soda in the world
>> Anonymous
I heard in a recent study that artificial sweeteners can cause cravings for sugar. This caused lab rats to overeat and get fat... like Americans.
>> Anonymous
artifical sugar is never nutritionally compatible with our metabolic processes and are wholly incompatible with normal human metabolic functioning. It is poison, MINIMIZE your consumption of refined sugars and artificial sugars
>> Anonymous
if your gonna drink soda do it right. fuck diet sodas lol, no point really
>> Anonymous
very minimal calories, but diet soda raises the blood sugar which makes hunger cravings increase. sure diet bloats you, but only drink diet soda if you want to drop weight fast. i did, i lost a shit load.
>> Anonymous
>>22564

I tried Bionade once in Austria, its very delicious, very low in sugar, high in minerals, this shit was awesome.

I heard they will sell this in the States this year or something like that.
>> Anonymous
Artificial sweeteners and the preservatives in our food is the cause for most of our "mystery" problems. Man up and drink water if you want real results :).
>> Anonymous
>>22588

This man understands one of the great secrets in life
>> Anonymous
Get mexican coke: no fake sugar or HFCS, ACTUAL sugar.. imagine that
>> Anonymous
i don't get people who say shit like "hurr i hate water!" how the fuck do you hate water? it doesn't taste like anything.
>> Anonymous
>>22609
I think they mean bottled water...
>> Anonymous
>>22610
nope, some of my friends refuse to drink any water plain.
>> Anonymous
*facepalm* @ most of this thread's replies.

What part of "THERE IS NO SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE THAT ASPARTAME IS BAD FOR YOU" do you not understand?
>> Anonymous
>>22636

liar, liar, liar

get back to your job in the artifical sweeteners industry faggot
>> Anonymous
>>22564
>rats given yogurt sweetened with zero-calorie saccharin

>other artificial sweeteners such as aspartame, sucralose and acesulfame K [...] could have >similar effects

They only tested saccharin.

>human study is required for further demonstration.

Yeah, pretty fucking conclusive.
>> Anonymous
>>22636
why risk it? so you can have something taste a little fucking better? why not load up on msg
>> Anonymous
>>22637
Prove that it's bad for you.

It's pretty easy to toss in links and say "that's CONCLUSIVE!"

See, I can do it too:
http://www.thecancerblog.com/2006/04/05/new-study-shows-no-cancer-risk-linked-to-aspartame/
>> Anonymous
>>22638

it took 50 years to get conclusive evidence that smoking is bad for you, everybody knew it before, but the industry blocked down and denied everything

it doesnt take much common sense to see that chemicals from a lab are not good for humans, especially when they are not found in natural food or diet
>> Anonymous
>>22642

how much do they pay you to sell your soul?

i cant even understand why people drink diet soda, it tastes like shit from a meth lab
>> Anonymous
>>22643
>Saccharin is the oldest artificial sweetener.

>Starting in 1907, the USDA began investigating saccharin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saccharin
>> Anonymous
>>22644
I hate soda with a passion and haven't had it for 2 years.

I do use artificial sweeteners though.

>how much do they pay you to sell your soul?
I'm a broke college kid. I wish they paid me to do this.
>> Anonymous
>No cancer risk found in diet soda's aspartame
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/265559_soda05.html

I don't even use aspartame. I use sucralose (Splenda), but LOVE Xylitol. Too bad it costs an arm and a leg.
>> Anonymous
Do what you want, i dont drink soda at all, normal soda is too sweet, diet soda tastes like shit.

Water, tea, milk for me.
>> Anonymous
We should stop eating chocolate because it can kill cats.
>> The Inverted Jogger !E203O4hsXo
My daily knowledge injestion is going to be about artificial sweeteners, but basically, yes they're just as bad for you. As others say they're quite possibly worse for you.
>> Anonymous
>>21694

Depends really. If you eat lots of sugary shit, they might possibly be a healthier option. If not, no.

Basically, diet shit sucks; its just as unhealthy, it tastes worse, its cheaper for the companies to make (hence giving it such an enticing title) and yeah, dont drink it
>> The Inverted Jogger !E203O4hsXo
I'd like to turn your attention to this thread;
>>22702
>> Anonymous
If something is scientifically suggested, but not conclusive, it's probably going to be true none-the-less. Mobile/cellphones and wifi are all hailed to be perfectly safe, except for all the newest studies that suggest/show it not to be the case. Would you rather assume it was wrong and keep drinking shit with it in, or assume it was false, and not die of aspartame intoxication, cancer, etc. etc.?
>> Anonymous
>>22564
http://www.bionade.com/bionade.php/20_en That stuff?
>> Anonymous
>>21694
yes
>> Anonymous
Okay I have a question,
People say diet soda is bad for you because it makes you crave sugar,
but
I drink diet soda infrequently and never crave sugar ever. So is it ok to drink diet soda as long as I don´t crave sugar lol
>> The Inverted Jogger !E203O4hsXo
>>22847
Go to>>22702. All you need to know about artificial sweeteners.
>> Anonymous
>>22821

yeah, its a soda brewed like beer, very tasty imo
>> Anonymous
>>22550
*TROLL ALERT*

when will you get it through your stupid american head that the shit is bad. i remember it had been printed on the side of sweet n' low packets in red text "studies have shown this product to cause cancer in lab rats" how much more fucking proof do you need. also in the gut a lot of artificial sugar is converted to formaldehyde, the shit they use to preserve corpses. fuck you.
>> Anonymous
ITT: We do not know the difference between laboratory experimentation and the real world.
>> Anonymous
>>22642
did you know artificial sweetners have been rejected by the FDA a TON of times? in the end it was allowed because washington is in bed with the businesses. when will you understand that? the companies don't give a fuck about you.
>> Anonymous
>>22885

Falsehood
>> Hammerknife !7ITukp3Pj2
Diet sodas are the healthiest thing anyone can drink. Can't you read the nutritional label? NO SUGARS, NO CALORIES! This clearly means it'll help flush out your kidneys and assist in the general metabolic process.

You faggots drinking water are going to die when you're 50, that shit's not healthy.
>> Anonymous
>>22885
Coca-Cola apparently does since they're backing Stevia, an organic sweetener which so far has had no negatives in lab tests.

>>22884
Because laboratories exist in pocket dimensions where physics, chemistry, and biology are completely different from our own dimension. lol
>> Anonymous
so the cancer connection is dubious at best

and saying that artificial sweetners are bad for you because they make you crave calories is like saying that watching someone else eat fatty lasagna is bad for you because you might want some. Watching someone else eat cake isn't bad for you (even if it makes you want to eat cake). Eating cake is bad for you
>> Anonymous
>>22890

You're pretty dumb, aren't you?
>> Anonymous
>>22886
no, it isn't. who's paying your ass to spread lies, rat?
>> Anonymous
>>22890
THE FDA HAS REJECTED STEVIA A LOT OF TIMES.
WHY? WHY? WHY? WHY? WHY? WHY?
I DONNO, BECAUSE THEY USE IT A LOOOOT IN JAPAN. AND IT COMES FROM A PLANT. HMMM, MAYBE THE ARTIFICIAL SWEETNER COMPANIE IS A MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR BUSINESS, IN BED WITH WASHINGTON? I THINK SO, SIR.
>> Hammerknife !7ITukp3Pj2
>>22895

I JUST LURV AD HOMINEM, DON'T YOU
>> Anonymous
>>22891
You failed/never took bio and chem did you?

Watching someone eat cake may cause a psychological desire to eat cake, but drinking artificial sweeteners causes a biological craving for food as your body tries to get the calories that it desires.

But not only that, sweeteners like saccharine may also trigger your body to burn less calories to compensate.

Totally the same thing. Lrn2analogy.
>> Anonymous
>>22895

NO U!
>> Anonymous
>>22903

>but drinking artificial sweeteners causes a biological craving for food as your body tries to get the calories that it desires

Tortured logic is tortured.
>> Anonymous
>>22903
way to totally miss the point

my point was that the cravings themselves weren't bad, it is acting upon those cravings that is the problem. If you can watch people eat cake without eating some, then you're good. If you can take in artificial sweeteners without overconsuming calories, then you're good. see how that work? understanding the point?

and why, if your body is expecting calories, would it burn less to compensate?
>> Anonymous
I love amateur science. I really do. I <3 this thread.
>> Anonymous
>>22913
With long term use of dietary products, your body may learn to compensate for the lack of caloric intake, thusly burning less calories.
>> Anonymous
>>22913
you don't get it. it isn't a craving in the sense of 'i want that cake that guy is eating.' it's your body and its blood sugar levels responding inappropriately. when you eat something sweet, body thinks sugars, takes metabolic actions, and when there's no sugars to be acted upon = fucked up body. you can't deny artifical sweetners are no good.
>> Anonymous
ITT:

diet soda junkies in denial
>> Anonymous
>>22918
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeexactly
>> Anonymous
>>22917
you are a fucking retard

what is the problem with it being "biological?" Apparently it's the fact that it causes you to overconsume calories. Now, if you can not overcohnsume calories, despite the craving being biological, what is the problem?

can you answer that?

and you're now just saying oh maybe it fucks up your metabolism. But the study said nothing about that, so where are you getting it from. And why wouldn't it work in the opposite direction

I can deny it and I am. and you're not doing much convince me otherwise
>> Anonymous
>>22920
just coming into this thread
here's some literature for ya bud

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/34040.php

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/517565

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/02/060213093019.htm

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,176258,00.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/07/28/health/webmd/main712605.shtml

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Diet/story?id=4271986
>> Guil
Well I've learned this much as fact:

1.Diet Soda tastes gross.
2. Tea and Water taste good.
3. Diet Soda tastes gross.

Theres nothing else need be said.
>> Anonymous
>>22921
there is no way that I'm going to read all of that shit. What does it say? If it's about cancer, then there are studies contradicting that.
>> Anonymous
>>22921

None of those things are scientific literature.

Do any of the anons arguing in this thread actually have formal education in the sciences or medicine? Just curious.
>> Anonymous
People have successfully been using diet soda as a replacement for regular soda on diets since diet sodas first came out.

If you are drinking diet soda and your diet is failing, dont look for something to blame other than you. You're not eating right or exercising well.

MAN THE FUCK UP and just fucking work hard and eat right. Do that and you could drink Coke Zero til your dick falls off and you'll still lose weight.
>> Hammerknife !7ITukp3Pj2
>>22927

Yep.

I'm going to tell anon that water is the healthiest thing you can drink. If you want to drink some diet soda with artificial sweetener, go right the fuck ahead.
>> Anonymous
THERE IS NO CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE THAT SMOKING CIGARETTES CAUSES LUNG CANGERfag reporting in.

jk

ITT: fun with technicalities.
>> Anonymous
>>22930

You're an engineer, engineers don't count as scientists.

Just sayin'.
>> Hammerknife !7ITukp3Pj2
>>22933

Engineers still know their shit.
>> Anonymous
>>22930
I find it hard to believe that an idiot like you has a degree in anything except for your ugly girlfriend
>> Hammerknife !7ITukp3Pj2
>>22935

Bawww.
>> Anonymous
Dear thread:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame_controversy#Methanol_and_formaldehyde
Soylent Green is people.
>> Anonymous
>>22937
and the wit remains
>> Anonymous
>>22938

ITT: Why wikipedia sucks as a source. One of the citations provided in the article for that claim actually directly contradicts it.
>> Hammerknife !7ITukp3Pj2
>>22940

Remains the rapier of the mind.
>> Anonymous
>>22938
brilliant
people not convinced by the other links posted in this thread will undoubtedly be swayed by the wikipedia article

wtf, man
>> Anonymous
>>22945
just stop, dude
it's embarrassing
>> Hammerknife !7ITukp3Pj2
>>22950

no