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Just do it... mmm !LC7P44pfbg
Oh hai /fit/.

I just want to say something to all the lurkers:

Stop dicking about and do it. Fuck getting the perfect technique, eating protein, and worrying over wether 4 or 5 reps is the best for building muscle, all the while not actually doing ANYTHING, giving yourself the excuse you'll work out what to do first... Because something is better than nothing.

I've been dicking about wondering what to do in the gym. I happen to do kickboxing, and whilst dicking about wondering what gym to join, what excerise to do first, I bought a skipping rope (2.99 off eBay) and a heavy bag (6ft, 5 stone, from the local paper, for 10.00). I started off about 5 minutes of skipping (stopping every 10 or so seconds) then bashing the bag till I get tired. Now, only a week later, I can skip hard (plus do all the fancy double unders and stuff) for 3, 5 minutes each time, followed by some serious training, and not be that exhusted for the rest of the day.

My point is, in the week you'll dick about on the internet looking for the right thing to do, you could be actually doing something. I think I'm fitter already.

Image not related - any piece of shit rope is better than nothing, the point of my whole thread...
>> Anonymous
OH HAY I WAS DOING THE EXACT SAME THING I WANTED TO DO OLYMPIC LIFTS BUT RUSHED INTO IT WITHOUT A COACH LOL! and now i am a quadriplegic.
>> Anonymous
You've a point in that people get sucked into the "Paralysis by over analysis" situation that a lot of beginners go through. They just get bogged down by the many ways to skin the cat and never try anything. There'll always be contradicting ideas to the program you're doing now and that's just something you've to get used to.

However, I don't condone just going into the gym with no clue of 1. what you're going to do and 2. how to do it correctly. A good portion of technique is trial and error, and asking knowledgeable people for their help, because I've seen a lot of people in the gym with no fucking clue as to what they're doing, and they wind up hurting themselves.
>> mmm !LC7P44pfbg
>>55049
But that's never actually happened, has it? Plus, see below.
>>55052
Yeah, I don't necessarily mean IN the gym, but half the people here are just fat and lazy, wanting to not be fat and lazy.

Anyway, EVERY gym makes you do an induction, explaining what to do and what not to do. If you tell them what you want, they'll start you off with a few basics. After a week or so, you'll start getting the hang of it, whilst the alternate-reality lazy-fat-fuck you is still dicking about on the internet, trying to work out whether he should eat egg protein or whey protein.
>> Anonymous
>>55054

Correct. "Everybody wants to be a bodybuilder, but nobody wants to lift no heavy ass weights".

I'd rather see the people with not-so-great technique squatting aside me than no one at all, cause they're atleast making the attempt at bettering themselves.

A lot of people worry too much about the nutrition aspect and not enough about the lifting aspect. Granted, nutrition is harder to understand, but so long as you're lifting appropriately, your body will change. I've been lifting since I'm 13 or so, I'm 19 now, and have had a shitty (in bodybuilding terms) diet the entire time, and still I've gotten bigger, stronger and better looking.

tl;dr- You can eat as healthy as you like, but if you're not lifting, you won't reap its benefits.
>> mmm !LC7P44pfbg
>>55057
An analogy:

You can run barefoot, or in shitty trainers. You can run faster in spikes on a track, but only once you can run in shitty trainers or barefoot. There's no point going for spikes straight away..

You could probably get bigger if you eat the right stuff, but you're bigger anyway. What's gauranteed is that if you'd spent those last few years working out the perfect diet without doing any excerise you wouldn't be big at all.
>> Anonymous
plus alot of beginners are ashamed of starting low weight and hurt themselves or give up it cause it's to hard, I started off at lifting like 50 pounds for bench and squat lol now i'm doing 120+ get your ass to work i didn't even use supplements when I first started.
>> ESH !Oj4wGhYfsE
>>55071

Exactly. A lot of people (mostly teens- mid 20s) allow their ego to play too much of a role in their lifting, or after they lift one day and are so sore the next, they refuse to go back.

Also, I'm the only other Anon (55052,etc) in here. Finally learned to tripfag.
>> Anonymous
>A lot of people worry too much about the nutrition aspect and not enough about the lifting aspect. Granted, nutrition is harder to understand, but so long as you're lifting appropriately,

9 times out of ten the reason the person isn't getting anywhere is a bad diet. The other 1 is trying to do a routine out of Flex they aren't anywhere ready for.

I worked out five days a week with shitty nutrition and got nowhere except over trained and burned out. Now I work out two days and eat right and I've put 100lbs on all my major lifts in under six months.

You're the exception; not the rule.
>> ESH !Oj4wGhYfsE
>>55082

Oh, lucky me.

However, the variable in your argument is the amount of days you're working out. 5 days a week is more taxing on the CNS than 2 full-body (or upper/lower) workouts a week. I spent years with 3 days a week, full body workouts, and did very well. I've recently went to 4 days a week, upper/lower split, and I'm still doing very well.

You're right, though, everyone is different and some are more prone to over training and burning out than others. But, I feel that there's more people in the "Do a workout from FLEX" category than we all think. Atleast, I've lost count of all the people walking around the gym with a clipboard and a page ripped out of their favorite BBing magazine.
>> Anonymous
>>55089

I'll be fair; it's probably more like 5/10 doing bad routines and the other 5 eating like shit.

And you are lucky;you started with a realistic work load. Most people don't figure that out for years. I cringe when I look at how many years I wasted with 5 day splits of one type or another. I'm doing so much better on 2 day routines it's almost tragic.