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Anonymous
can you guys terll me exactly how this processes in my belly. how do i stop the crap i eat from becoming fat.
>> Anonymous
>>278309
not eating bacon or white bread would be a decent start.
>> Anonymous
There's not a damn thing wrong with bacon or white bread if you eat it within the confines of your calories limits and you know it.
>> Anonymous
op here, how does bacon become an extra inch on my ass?
>> Anonymous
>>278312
Actually, there is. It matters what is eaten, not just calorie counts. Unless you're an idiot that brags of losing ten pounds and half was muscle.

>>278313

It has fat and protein. If the body doesn't burn these as you are digesting, it will be stored after a while in the bloodstream. Taking carbs with the bacon speeds this process by triggering an insulin spike, a mechanism signalling the body to store everything in the bloodstream, proteins and carbs in muscle and fats in adipose tissue.
>> Anonymous
>>278315
there must be a way to use it ans energy before it gets stored
>> Anonymous
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>>278309
I was saving that bacon
>> Anonymous
>>278315
do you know the difference between fiber and protein and/or which one is better to consume?
>> TheCodester
lol... fiber and protein.

break your food into.... fat(plus types of fat if you're partially insane like me), carbs, protein.

then if you're really insane you can keep track of fiber... and the seemingly endless vitamins, minerals, amino acids etc.
>> Anonymous
>>278315

Everything triggers an insulin spike. Protein, fat and carbs. That don't combine carbs + fat is pure horseshit. An average sized meal takes 6+ hours to digest. Are you going to seperate your fat and carbs with a 6+ hour window? LOL

As long as you meet your protein requirements, nutrient requirements, and fat requirements, you can eat whatever the fuck you want and lose fat, gain muscle, maintain, whatever.

Seperating the P + F and P + C = BULLSHIT

You fucking faggot. Feel lucky I took the time to correct you.
>> Anonymous
Switch to turkey bacon and whole wheat, and you've got yourself an idea.
>> Anonymous
>>278349
I don't particularly feel lucky that some anonymous dumbass decides to argue against Berardi and Lyle McDonald without any citations. In fact, I'm slightly amused at how insignificant you are despite your aggressive posturing.
>> Anonymous
>>278362

Lyle says food combining is bullshit, faggot.

http://www.bodybuilding.net/fatloss-forum/how-to-cut-1160-4.html

scroll down and you can find his quotes

go fuck yourself. you spread myths and bullshit info
>> Anonymous
>Everything triggers an insulin spike.

No, actually, not everything does. Only carbs and even then, low-GI carbs don't spike the insulin. The ignorance you display is breath-taking, truly, but the confident way you go about embarassing yourself with it is even better.


>Protein, fat and carbs. That don't combine carbs + fat is pure horseshit. An average sized meal takes 6+ hours to digest.

Yeah. Maybe in fatass land where one inhales 4000 calories in three daily meals. I guess that's you're only frame of reference, though, tubby.

A small 400-500 kcal meal is easily digested in a few hours, unless it is comprised entirely of low-GI carbs and casein.
>> Anonymous
>>278369

"1. Protein raises insulin
2. It takes only miniscule amounts of insulin to affect fat cell metabolism. Even fasting levels will inhibit lipolysis by 50% and it takes only a very small increase to affect things beyond that.
3. Insulin isn't even nearly the entirety of the picture. Well, it was 10+ years ago, but it's not now. Two studies have shown that fat ingestion by itself affects fat cell metabolism with no increase in insulin: you get an inhibition of HSL (just like insulin does) and other effects. The most likely player is a molecule called acylation stimulation protein (ASP, aka complement 3 protein or some crap, I wish scientists would come up with one name for this stuff). ASP is complex but has been described for at least 2 decades as the most potent stimulus for triglyceride synthesis in fat cells. ASP activates glucose uptake into the cell, activates triglyceride synthesis, increasing insulin release from the pancreas. It appears to be activated by a protein on the surface of the chylomicron (the packaged up dietary triglyceride). you're reading that right: fat stimulates it's own storage without a need for insulin."

Faggot.
>> Anonymous
Lyle's a fag, as are you. Go suck some cock.

Berardi says otherwise, and he's way more educated. Lyle's not even a PhD.
>> Anonymous
From Lyle:

"Now, one study suggested that insulin + ASP activation lead to greater fatty acid trapping than either and they tested this by using either a high fat or high carb meal or a mix of the two."

So, Lyle isn't nearly as sure about the mechanisms as some of his little cocksuckers on the nets.
>> Anonymous
>>278380

Go back to T-Fag.

Beradi advocates bullshit and you know it. But hey, don't admit your wrong and make your life suck by seperate your fat + carbs. LOL! Enjoy eating brocolli + chicken everyday of your life while I'm eating out and still having a six pack.
>> Anonymous
>>278386

and the only reason that study showing food combining worked was because the fat + carbs meal was double the calories.
>> Anonymous
>>278315
Ketogenesis, much?