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is muscle size related to how much u can actually lift?can smaller guys sometimes lift more than bigger guys?
>> Anonymous
that's an interesting question, i'd like to know the answer too
>> Anonymous
I believe so.

From what I understand, 7-10 reps build mass while 5 reps build strength.

Correct me if I'm wrong.
>> Anonymous
size =/= strength. end of story. In b4 a billion convoluted posts. I suggest you wiki sarcoplasmic hypertrophy and read for yourself.
>> Anonymous
>is muscle size related to how much u can actually lift?

Yes and no. If you train for strictly strength, you can get really strong without getting gigantic.


>can smaller guys sometimes lift more than bigger guys?

Powerlifters in the medium and light weight classes (165 lbs and below) will out lift most bodybuilders who have 100 lbs on them.
>> Anonymous
Yes due to diffierent length size. Think of an arm of a long person and an arm of a short person. It can sometimes be near half the size. With the same weight it's easier to lift with a shorter horizontal length then a longer one (the longer the arm the more pressure at the end of the hand). Notice how break dancers are short?
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strength is body tension, so the more tension you can generate, the stronger you are.
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Look at this fucking chart. LOOK AT IT!

Understanding it is the key to effective intelligent training. If you do not understand it then either buy Practical Programming or google the words that you don't understand.
>> Anonymous
what happens with muscles is when you lift or get excisize, they wear off in VERY slight layers, (aka the reason you get sore.)
homeostasis and adaptation makes them grow back with the layer that was worn off and more.
so yes, but that doesn't necessarily mean you're tone or know how to use your muscle
>> Anonymous
>>456415
>tone

-9000/10
>> Anonymous
My senior year of high school, I was on the football team and I coul dpowerclean 265lbs, and i was 5'10 and only wieghed 170. I lead our team for almost a year in that exercise, beating out guys who were 6'3 270. Im not HUGE, but im fairly big.
>> Anonymous
>>456418

What's with the retards who think there is no such thing as muscle tone. You are wrong, and you're misquoting something somebody who actually knows about lifting says. There is no such thing as a 'toning excercise' - there is such as thing as muscle tone.
>> Anonymous
>>456286
comical how many worship this chart

few realize how short sighted and incomplete it is

lol to absolutes that only control 1 of the 3 essential variables to the strength/hypertrophy game.
>> Er... ANON
>>456220
This is a subject in which biological settings are more important than just "Train, tear muscles, heal and be stronger!". For example: Bloodflow is massively important as no blood renders you tired and fatigued, causing your muscles to ache. The more oxygen you can pump into your muscles per period the more effect you gain from each muscle. willpower is also a huge factor when you want your body to do that "little extra" for you.
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>>457037
post your data or gtfo
>> Anonymous
>>456996
lol sorry to call bullshit but i've seen how people train on high school football teams.

it's unbelievable how the coaches encourage kids to just go balls to the walls with terrible form. all that mataters is they lift lift lift. i've seen kids holding school records for 500 pounds squats who only went down 2-3 inches while the coaches congratulated them on their massive strength. sure, these kids were strong but they couldnt even handle 400 pounds if they had to go to paralelle or below.

i'm not saying you weren't strong but there's a strong chance you were doing a horrible clean and jerk technique and muscled your way to 265. with proper technique it probably would have been like 200
>> Anonymous
>>457344

the better you're at olympic lifting the easier the weight gets, and it's hard to cheat at a power clean
>> Anonymous
>>457353
are you so sure about that? IT's really not hard to cheat when you're totaly throwing the weight around and not even clearing it properly. I've seen people deadlift with a bit of a jump and have their coaches go WOW that was a great clean and press! 300 lbs!!!!

i'm not trying to call your bullshit dude but that's a pretty fucking impressive lift and knowing the track record and behaviors of many football coaches/trainer in higschool, well...i tend to assume that most of these super strong ex- high school football players were just given alot of lee way and no proper training.

it's why so many kids i met at college used to be able to bench press 350 pounds, deadlift 500 pounds, squat 600 pounds and curl 150. then you realize that their idea of spotting is two guys holding the other end of the bar and they deadlifted in smith machines from a raised position of 16 inches. and their curls were on a mchine as they lowered their hips to get the inititial movement started
>> Anonymous
>>457357

i understand that high school coaches are oblivious to proper form as I went through high school football and track doing squats, bench, olympic lifting all wrong. but the better I got at learning the olympic lifts with qualified people the easier the weight became, and i'm sure that's the same for a lot of people.
>> Anonymous
>>457362
i'm not doubting that fact that you can lift that much..i just doubt you did a legitimate 250+ pound CJ in highschool. it takes years to get that good with proper form. unless you are some naturaly strong freak but you even said yoiu only weighed 170 at the time
>> Anonymous
I can see why it is frowned upon in body-building, but the ability to lift more by using more than the one typical muscle group is practical. You see it with kinetic linking in the martial arts all the time. You may only be able to push for 30 lbs with an arm alone, but add in the power from a solid stance, your core muscles, and back. Suddenly your power is greatly increased and no strengthening of the muscle took place. There is only so much you can do with static lifts that go in 2-dimensions.
>> Anonymous
>>457366
powerlifters use such an arched back and solid foot stance with bench pres because it adds stabalization. i could bench 315 with that form but probably 280 if someone were to make me put my feet on the bench and use a flat back.
>> Anonymous
>>457365

that was someone else, hell I'm 165# and my max power clean is no where's near that. in fact I can't even do cleans because of my right hand being out of commission. although the last time I did cleans was probably 3 months ago
>> Anonymous
a perfect example is Frank Yang, standing next to each other, I'd look like I could dominate him. Fact is, frank yang can squat like twice my body weight

size does not, by any means, equal strength
>> Anonymous
NO.
>> Anonymous
>>457368
Powerlifters do it to a larger degree than bodybuilders in order to decrease ROM. Clearly both need stability when pressing heavy weights.
>> Anonymous
>>457366
>There is only so much you can do with static lifts that go in 2-dimensions.
I've never seen a single person do a lift that goes in 3 dimension, fucking shit! that would mean you'd have to move
1. front-back
2. up-down
3. left-right
in one lift!

I suppose bicycle crunches and the oblique-targeting captain's chair exercise would count, but that's about it