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The World According to Monsanto Anonymous
You're all somewhat into your health. What do you think of GMO foods and the fact that in the U.S. you don't even get to make the choice of whether you eat them or not because of lack of labeling?

I watched the documentary The World According to Monsanto last night, Monsanto is like the Umbrella Corporation but real so it's a bit scarier.

small: http://thepiratebay.org/tor/4135617/The_World_According_to_Monsanto__-_AVI_(254.4MB_VGA)

large (dvd-rip):
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/4098947/World_According_to_Monsanto_-_DVDRip_English.mp4
>> Anonymous
Interesting, I might take a look after work.
>> Anonymous
I'm into a lot of doctors and trainers and they say you should eat mostly organic foods and avoid genetically modified ones. It's really fucking hard to do in the U.S. though.
>> Anonymous
Years ago Monsanto tried to sue a company that makes wine in Chianti, that goes by the same name. Cease and desist, blah blah blah, etc.
the company in Italy simply produced records from their archives that went to about oh, THE FUCKING MIDDLE AGES and told them to go fuck themselves.
True story.

And eating Organic in the US cant be that hard. I call bullshit. Expensive maybe, hard to find perhaps. But difficult? I dont think so.
>> Anonymous
>>130146
eating isnt difficult faggot
>> Anonymous
What is so bad about genetically modified foods?
>> Anonymous
>>130158
Dont feed the troll.
>> Anonymous
>>130164
I'm sorry I don't see what is so horrible about changes plant genes.
>> Anonymous
>>130146
>>130146
Not one processed food is labeled as genetically modified. Eating out at all makes it impossible to tell what's genetically modified as well. So basically enjoy trying to have a normal life in the US while avoiding GMOs.
>> Anonymous
Seriously, why are genetically modified foods so bad? I can understand spraying chemicals all over you food while it is grown is bad but what is wrong with modifying their DNA?
>> anonymous
nothing is wrong with changing plant genes. Its like the natural process of random mutation, and selective breeding, just done way faster and more efficiently.

Look it up, there really are no health problems, its just propaganda, and people think "DURRR, FRANKENFOODS BAD" without knowing anything.
>> Anonymous
>>130246
there was a 50% increase in soy allergies in the UK after GM soy was introduced (documented). Coincidence? I think not.
>> anonymous
Plus organic food causes global warming more than conventional.
Check it out.
http://www.reason.com/blog/show/126276.html
>> anonymous
organic food can't possibly feed the 10 billion people we're gonna have by 2050 (when world population is supposed to peak). Well maybe it can if we cut down all the rainforests and wetlands and shit to make room for more expensive organic asparagus or whatever makes bullshit hippiefags happy.
>> Anonymous
>>130265

Don't bring that shit up.
>> Anonymous
>>130265
>>130268
We're not talking about getting rid of conventional foods here. Quit the strawman argument. This is about GMO foods. Patenting seeds, terminating seeds, lack of any long term safety data. NOT CONVENTIONAL.
>> Anonymous
>>130265
This article totally misses the point that organic food has higher nutritional density (hint: you would require less of certain things to get the same or better nutrition)

The first green revolution was total bullshit anwyays: we have food piling up in the US. We are burning it for fuel. Don't talk bullshit about the environment.
>> Anonymous
>>130222
Genetically Modified Foods Have Serious Health Risks. Conscious Choice. 2003. 16 May 2008.
http://consciouschoice.com/2003/cc1611/gmofoodrisk1611.html

Center for Food Safety: rBGH/rBST. Center for Food Safety. 16 May 2008.
http://www.centerforfoodsafety.org/rbgh2.cfm

Cornell News - Toxic pollen from widely planted, genetically modified corn can kill monarch butterflies. Conrell University. DATE
http://www.news.cornell.edu/releases/May99/Butterflies.bpf.html

Researcher Warns of Cancer Risk From rBGH (non-organic) Dairy Foods. Holistic Healing. 18 May 2008.
http://www.holisticmed.com/bgh/prostate.html

Smith, Jefferey. Spilling the Beans: Unintended GMO Health Risks. Organic Consumers Association. March 2008. 9 May 2008.
http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_11361.cfm
>> Anonymous
There's no government regulation of any of this stuff:

Revolving Doors: Monsanto and the Regulators
http://www.monitor.net/monitor/9904b/monsantofda.html
>> Anonymous
When someone calls attention to things like this it reminds me how poisonous most of the foods people eat are. What's even more sad? Things will never change
>> Anonymous
>>130609
Bullshit, at least they have truth in labeling in Europe and Japan.
>> Anonymous
It's funny how shit like this doesn't get more attention on /fit/. The 1% of you that go from morbidly obese to obese will die at age 60 from some cancer from all this bullshit going into our food. It's kinda fucked up that our generation was unknowingly used as lab rats for this bullshit.
>> Anonymous
>>130632
HOW DARE YOU QUESTION CORPORATE PROFITS!? FUCKING COMMIE
>> Anonymous
This is fucking bollocks, there is nothing wrong with GM food whatsoever "ooh it's not natural, we don't know of the long term effects" seems to be just about the only argument against it, which is fucking bollocks.
>> Anonymous
>"ooh it's not natural, we don't know of the long term effects"

You are a giant idiot if you don't think this is a valid argument.
>> Anonymous
The problem isn't so much GM foods, but the entire industrial food chain in general, which subverts the natural cycles of life.

Efficiency becomes the focal point as farmers use GM corn to increase crop yields beyond natural levels (necessitating the use of fossil-fuel based fertilizers that harm the environment and deepen our dependence on international oil) and factory farms feed animals highly-processed, non-natural "food" their bodies are not designed to eat (to make them fatter in shorter periods to time) leading to monocultures that are sucesptible to infection, inhumane conditions, and toxic levels of hazardous waste.

From what I hear, it's not pleasant to live anywhere close to an industrial feedlot.

A steer or chicken that follows its natural instincts in acquiring food will be healthier and more nutritious for human consumption, and far less likely to be infected with dangerous parasites or bacteria. When you eat industrial meat, you're basically eating corn grown with fossil fuels.

While industrial food will be cheaper at the supermarket checkout, this price does not reflect the true cost of growing and consuming it (this should be particularly obvious to /fit/ people) as it's generally less nutritious and more environmentally destructive. The only reason the industrial food chain exists is because it is heavily subsidized by the government, and has a higher potential for enormous profit than local/organic farming... if you're a shareholder or politician from a corn-gorwing state.
>> Anonymous
>>130674
Yea, it's basically how the field of economics operates most of the time. It completely discounts externalities when calculating the price. If these companies had to pay for how much they fuck up the land and the environment then we'd see the true price of this food.
>> Anonymous
Scary shit.
>> Anonymous
There's absolutely nothing wrong with GMO foods. There has been no evidence that any type of GMO food has had an adverse effect on people after consumption. Now remember we've all been eating GMO foods since the 1970s. You're fine.
>> Anonymous
We live in a fear based economy. They try to scare us into buying organic garbage. There's no reason for it. frankenfoods are probably better than organic
>> Anonymous
>>131501
Trust Monsanto because they have your best interests at heart.
>> Anonymous
>>131497
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines07/0314-03.htm
>> Anonymous
>>131501
It'd probably be better to have the entire FUCKING FOOD SUPPLY PATENTED BY ONE COMPANY INSTEAD. Right fag?
>> Anonymous
>>131518
I think you missed the sarcasm.
>> Anonymous
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Well, no shit it's unhealthy. You're not supposed to EAT the stuff.
>> Anonymous
I think its perfectly normal to eat food that has two heads or is a mix of a fish and a carrot.
It has to be safe, because big corporations and the government always have the public's health and safety in mind when they do things.
>> Anonymous
>>131497

Yeah, we're all fine... that's why America is suffeing from an obesity epidemic right now. That's why Americans are considered to be the least healthy of all Westerners...
>> Anonymous
>>131860
I eat fish and carrots in the same sitting, I see no reason not to eat a fishcarrot.
>> Anonymous
>>131865

>>Yeah, we're all fine... that's why America is suffeing from an obesity epidemic right now. That's why Americans are considered to be the least healthy of all Westerners...

And all of that is because of GMO's, right? Not because of an increasingly sedimentary lifestyle among Americans or the large amounts of fast food that we ingest on a daily basis.

The obesity "epidemic" is nothing more than Americans are lazy and make poor diet decisions.
>> Anonymous
>sedimentary lifestyle

It's sedentary.

The problem is Americans don't have a stable food culture; the definition of "eating healthy" changes every few years. Remember when red meat was the devil? And then it was ok, but carbs weren't?

You mention poor decisions, but what choice does someone with no knowledge of nutrition and health truly have? I think most people will pruchase food based on price and packaging, without truly knowing what they're buying or why.

GM foods aren't responsible for this, but I fail to see what purpose they serve, other than to make one company rich and harm the environment. And why replace crops we've grown for millenia and have served us perfectly well with mutated garbage controlled by a single company?

The crop yields in many poor countries that have cross-pollinated with GM crops have had lower than expected results, and in case you haven't noticed, there's a massive world-wide food shortage right now.
>> Anonymous
>>131860
They have the safety of corporate profits in mind.
>> Anonymous
>>131865
We just need more low fat high sugar foods. They're heart healthy! Corporations will get you healthy!
>> Anonymous
>>131908
sedimentary rock
>> Anonymous
>>132296
I got a rock.