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Anonymous
Hi /fit/,

I just did a week at the gym after years of slothing about, I've been able to do 5 minute runs (well I consider it running) with the treadmill at 12km/h.

Is that fast enough to be considered running as oppossed to jogging? At what point does a jog become a run? I ask because a lot of the fitness guides I'm reading on the interwebs suggest to start off with jogging first, not running.
>> SAAAGE !AWWoVnJsZ.
i'd say its running
>> Anonymous
...I'd call it jogging, but I guess you can call it whatever.
>> Kanader
Technical answer: It's running when there is a period in your stride at which neither foot is on the ground.
>> Anonymous
>>37999
Surely jogging where both feet are on the ground at one point is really bad form?
>> Guil
>>38016
That's walking, jogging has one foot off the ground at all times

I'm guessing there, but it seems obvious
>> Anonymous
>>38024
In order to have one foot off the ground at all times, you will have times when both feet are off the ground (or both feet are on the ground)

You can't magically switch instantly between feet touching the ground.
>> Anonymous
Actually none of it. Treadmills are crap in my opinion. It's NOT like running - you're not putting nearly the same amount of energy into it, because you're not propelling your body. Basically you're lifting your legs up and down. Some might say the difference is neglible, but I disagree. Working out is about transferring energy stored in your body into potential energy and/or accelerations (force over time = friction = heat). You don't do that on a treadmill.
>> Anonymous
actually that's true about the no feet on ground = running/sprinting. look at a slow mo vid or something of a guy running. the guy can get both feet off the ground but not both feet on, that's called standing still.
here's a vid
pay attention
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ttshV1QYS44
specifically 29s to 1m40s.
ya the vid is gay but i needed something to prove it.
if you want to improve your running, stretch all pre and post running. and run outside on different surfaces like sand, grass, dirt, concrete. also up hill and down hill. and get a running buddy, it's a great help
>> River
I'd like to argue that treadmills are worthless.

Physically, remaining "stationary" on a moving belt going the opposite way is the same as propelling yourself on stationary ground. Einstein's theory of Relativity, I believe?

Very basically, the only thing different between jogging outside and jogging on a treadmill is wind resistance, and that won't come into play unless you're literally bounding into the air.

Though living in a cold climate, I pretty much am forced to use a treadmill for the winter months. If not forced? I'd say go outside.
>> Anonymous
>>38455
thats what the incline is for
>> Anonymous
>>38469Physically, remaining "stationary" on a moving belt going the opposite way is the same as propelling yourself on stationary ground.
Of course not. If you stop pushing yourself forward while running, you'll come to a halt. Put another way, if you stop pushing the ground behind you, it comes to a halt. A treadmill does not require your assistance to stay in motion.
>> Anonymous
What about running on the spot "she's a maniac" style? I don't like running out in public.
>> Arthur_Saxon !olAHq2SmeU
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>>38583
Do not fear the judgmental eyes of the unwashed as they trudge from the sulphur mines back to their tenements! What you perceive as their dis-satisfaction with your appearance is, in actuality, misplaced guilt for their own bleak, sedentary existences!

However, when confined to one's domicile you are not prevented from working your heart and lungs! The side-straddle hop is a venerable means of training one's breath! Simply find a pace and set a length of time to exercise!

Practitioners of the fistic arts swear by the humble skipping-rope! It trains not only the breath, but also the ankles and muscles of the calf, thigh and shoulders!
>> Anonymous
>>38588
Thanks for helping me out...in style!
>> Anonymous
>>38588

omg that was awesome. thank you