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size vs strength Anonymous
/fit/, how would it be possible to have mad strength inside of a small figure? I am talking about the crazy type of strength and speed that Bruce Lee had. The guy was small, his arms were far from pythons and yet he was as strong as someone 3/2 is size or more. How could a person achieve this? What was his workout? Was he some kind of mutant?
>> Sponge !!5qxfxHYSQxJ
he wasn't strong. he was a showman.
>> Anonymous
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only thing i've read from Bruce Lee, was a very interesting and worthwhile read
>> Anonymous
>>468810

dickhead
http://www.mikementzer.com/blee.html
>> Anonymous
well you already know it wasnt from cutting and bulking, eating oatz or doing squatz...

so my question to you is why ask 4 chan?!?!?!
>> Anonymous
>>468810
This.

The guy was a fucking moviestar/gymnast who applied his gymnastic ability to movie martial arts. Stop worshipping him ffs.

>>468812
Fanboy. gtfo.
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>> Sponge !!5qxfxHYSQxJ
>>468812

lots of hype but i see no facts

>>468817

oh god
>> Anonymous
>>468817
this is worse than the kermit toning shit

some faggot thinks he is funny by doing this.

kill yourself please.
>> Sponge !!5qxfxHYSQxJ
>>468820

ooo someone takes the internet a bit seriously
>> Sponge !!5qxfxHYSQxJ
>>468812

> the door to his school suddenly flew open

lmao how precise do you think any information is gonna be in there
>> Anonymous
>>468820
kermit toning?
>> Anonymous
yeah.... if he would have just taken steroids and not been Terminated he could be the govenator of California.

"It is not a tumoh"
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>>468820
wat?
>> Anonymous
his strength was for speed.

basically, if you wanna be like bruce lee, do some kind of martial arts and just add more weights onto your body day after day. if you put too many weights you'll just become bulky and slow.

i suggest practicing something like kickboxing with ankle/wrist weights or barbells in your hands. you'll feel like a weak bitch when you try to move fast with weights on you.

upsides are that you'll see yourself getting quicker, and your muscles are more even and natural looking. as if you were, duh, a kickboxer.

this will take alot of your daily time to achieve (i suggest training yourself for at least an hour if you don't get fatigued)

i practice for about 2-3 hours every other night to keep my shape consistent
>> Anonymous
>>468808

this was actually in muscle and fitness like 3-4 months ago.
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>>468835
http://www.muscleandfitness.com/bruce_lee_the_accidental_icon_april_2008/features/184
>> Anonymous
You guys are dumbasses. It's totally possible to be small and strong. Just look at Frank Yang or any powerlifter / Oly lifter in the lower weight classes. If there's no calorie excess, you won't grow big, but you'll still be strong.
>> Anonymous
Long Qingquan 55kg, 132kg snatch, 160kg clean+jerk (at olympics).

more power than a mother fucking car

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGCHDUJtkts
>> Anonymous
>>468853
this
if you want to be strong and small train for strength and don't eat a lot
but realize that you would gain strength faster if you ate a lot and then some
>> Sponge !!5qxfxHYSQxJ
>>468842

i didn't even notice it that time
>> Anonymous
>>468871
that's cause you're a fucking tripfag.
>> Anonymous
basic physics.

F=MA
Force = Mass x Acceleration

The faster the strike, the more force. That's how he was able to achieve the 2 inch punch.
>> Sponge !!5qxfxHYSQxJ
>>468886

ooo pissy
>> Anonymous
>>468892
It's one inch punch.
Also, Tyson was able to do the same thing, but with more force.
>> Anonymous
>>468892
Problem is, with a lot of these super fast punches some guys do to show off, it's only an arm punch. There's no body weight behind it, thus very little force.
>> Anonymous
>how would it be possible to have mad strength inside of a small figure?

Chi

/thread
>> Anonymous
>>468925

I agree. Thats if the guy doesn't know what he's doing.
If you watch the videos of Bruce doing the 1 inch punch, you'll see he's driving from the hip, his whole body twists, foot plant, etc.

Mike Tyson has both, his muscle mass is huge and he's developed speed so he's got both mass and speed going for him.
>> Anonymous
If anyone thinks that Bruce Lee was just an actor, you obviously never read about Jeet Kune Do, Jun Fan Gung Fu, or Wing Chung Gung Fu.

Do some research before you start spouting off misinformation.
>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
He was conditioning something at all times.

Knuckles while watching a movie...

But the explosive strength and speed came from him training just that

He punched as fast as he could, as hard as he could at short distances. His speed is what created such hard hitting punches.
>> Anonymous
>>468834
karate for 13 years, i've tought for six.

The stupid "muscles make you bulky and slow" shit I was taught wasted valuable time i could have been lifting and building more muscle and power. More muscle doesn't make you bulky and slow, unless you lift and eat like a bodybuilder at all times. Take your shitty martial arts misconceptions and keep them to yourself to prevent people from ending up as skinny and weak/slow as you.
>> Negro Sparkle Faggot
>>468973
That's 13 years you could have not wasted doing a better art.
>> Anonymous
>>468981
Depends on the style of karate.

So what style do you do>>468973?
>> Anonymous
i saw on a documentary , he didnt have an ounce of fat on his body, it was all muscles. that and his special technique - he wrote a book about, no magic involved
>> Anonymous
Its probably why he died. He suffered from a brain anuerism? Your body needs some fat and he kept his too low, he pushed his body to the absolute limit of its potential.
>> Anonymous
>>468892
It's not just a matter of force, but momentum. Force is only important for initial impact, from there, the importance of force is replaced by momentum and continuing to deliver force into the body despite the bodies opposing forcing.

Boiling it down to one equation means you haven't taken physics, haven't thought about it, or both.
>> Anonymous
>>468967
Bruce Lee was chinese.
>> Anonymous
>>468929
there is no reason to believe in chi. it's just the feeling you get when you're good at focusing.

Chi is just hippy shit babble for being able to synchronize tension of your muscles to make a greater deliver of your force and momentum into the opponent..
>> Anonymous
>>469005
he was american you retard, but born in hong kong
>> Anonymous
>>469010
I was talking about his ethnicity faggot.
>> Anonymous
>>468986
Isshinryu, but that hardly matters.

What matters is the quality of the instruction, and the instruction was quite good. However, previous senseis told me that bullshit and kept me out lifting till i was 17. Some bullshit.
>> Anonymous
Bruce Lee was clearly Korean.
>> Anonymous
>>468929
>>Chi
You watch too much anime.

When are you weeaboo faggots gonna realise Bruce Lee was an ACTOR. Yes he had skill, yes he was strong, but he would get his ass kicked by any decent real fighter.
>> Anonymous
>>469014
racist
>> Anonymous
>>469020
lol no, because he was so famous he would be challenged on the street every day and usually win
>> Negro Sparkle Faggot
>>469020
Dan Inasanto trained my coach.

Bruce was a fighter too, not just an actor.
>> Anonymous
>>469020
If by "real fighter" you mean professional fighter, then I agree with you.
>> Anonymous
>>469026
cool story bro
>> Anonymous
>>469020

He was extremely proficient in Wing Chung Gung Fu, and developed his own Jun Fan Gung Fu, and then Jeet Kune Do. Hell, he even participated in competitions!

But yeah, I agree with your statement based on no information or research.
>> Anonymous
>>469033
He was never all that proficient at wing chun, and he never competed in anything more than a cha cha dance competition.
>> Anonymous
>>469027


Me too!

I study Jun Fan gung fu, muay thai, filipino martial arts, silat, savat, and some grappling.
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>>469033
Wow, he even entered a few competitions. He must have really been the best in the world~!!!

Put him in the top MMA leauge and I guarantee you he wouldn't win a single fight.

Pic related, this man would kill Bruce Lee in 10 seconds.
>> Anonymous
>>469041

Competent enough to be an instructor. Seriously though, have you ever read the Tao of Jeet kune do, or practiced Jun Fan gung fu?
>> Negro Sparkle Faggot
>>469045
Yeah I got my rank in Jun Fan, my kru in Muay Thai, I'm going to start fighting in MMA.

I do jujitsu and judo. What is your coaches name?
>> Anonymous
>>469047
He also weighs twice as much as Lee did. At least chose someone in the same weight class if you want to make an example.
>> Anonymous
PROTIP: Martial arts movies are not real life.
>> Negro Sparkle Faggot
>>469047
He would get Bruce in an armbar and he'd bite 'em. I've seen it.
>> Anonymous
>>469053
protip: MMA aren't real fights.
>> Anonymous
>>469049
Competent enough to instruct doesn't mean you're any good or even very proficient. I've done Judo for only two years, but I'm competent enough to instruct people in the basics.
>> Anonymous
>>469050
Dan Keleher, East coast of Canada.

>>469047
Never claimed he was the best in the world. Your words, not mine. I am claiming that he was not just an actor.
>> Anonymous
>>469059
protip: They're closer to a real fight than anything Bruce Lee ever did.
>> Negro Sparkle Faggot
>>469064
I'm way the fuck down in San Antonio, Texas.

But yeah I can safely say you know your shit. Ever fought other gyms?
>> Anonymous
>>469049
PROTIP: Being an instructor at a martial art doesn't mean you are actually good at it, even more so in a martial art you discovered YOURSELF(jeet kun do).

Fuck, i'm going to start a martial art called neo-pankration, i'll put some fancy LOLEFFECTIVE ball kneeing techniques, some armbars and maybe a spin kick, enter a rigged MMA fight with my martial art, and become rich.
>> Anonymous
>>469066
>Protip: I don't know anything about Bruce Lee, just his movies
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suck a cock fanboys, bruce admitted he would be owned by heavyweights.
>> Anonymous
>>469056
Biting is one of the dumbest defenses against an armbar ever. Only someone who's desperate and doesn't know what they're doing would try it.

The human jaw is very weak. If someone tried biting me as a defense I would shove me leg even deeper into their mouth, reducing how much strength they could put into the bite. Then I would dislocate their elbow, doing far more damage to them than they did to me.
>> Anonymous
>>469071

No, it's a very small group of us training, very hands on, and in the area, there is very little mma training other than BJJ. I think my instructor is the only one doing JKD in a several hour radius.

I'm only starting out, but eventually would like to test with Adjarn or Dan.
>> Anonymous
>>469078
What?


"In ordinary parlance, muscular "strength" usually refers to the ability to exert a force on an external object—for example, lifting a weight. By this definition, the masseter or jaw muscle is the strongest. The 1992 Guinness Book of Records records the achievement of a bite strength of 4,337 N (975 lbf) for 2 seconds."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle#The_.22strongest.22_human_muscle
>> Anonymous
>>469072

Jeet Kune Do isn't a martial art.
>> Anonymous
>>469078
whoa. cool future story brah
>> Negro Sparkle Faggot
Yeah my gym WRECKS on other gyms. Dan really knew his shit. I'm going to meet him soon.

To the other guy. I'm pretty sure he'd take a chunk of your thigh out. He tough that if your going to bite, bite like a pitbull. Get your back teeth into it and try to bite a chunk off.
>> Anonymous
>>469086
>>469088
>>469098
Agreed, but this doesn't really change the fact that biting is a bad defense. The moment you start focusing on biting the guy, you stop focusing on actually defending the arm.
>> Negro Sparkle Faggot
>>469111
You'd break my arm but then you'll die of blood loss.
>> Anonymous
>>469086
Try this. Open your mouth as wide as you can. Shove your hand as far into your mouth as you can, basically trying to wedge your jaws open. Then try to bite down as hard as you can.

It might hurt a bit, but you won't do any damage. It's a weak position for your jaw. That's why shoving the leg deeper in would be an effective defense.
>> Anonymous
ITT: "Qi" being spelled wrong over 9000 times, misconceptions, and faggotry.

Bruce Lee was a badass, and if you refuse to even consider him being an amazing physical specimen then you're closed minded.
>> heres to me Anonymous
>>469111

Ever seen muy tai biters sink their teeth into a pig?
Yah, they gnash the muscles and crush the bones.
>> Anonymous
>>469137
i don't know bro i just tried that and i could bite quite hard
>> Anonymous
>>469077
whats that from
>> Anonymous
he is amazing at ping pong
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xj8bR5r6vI
>> Anonymous
>>469137
>Then try to bite down as hard as you can.

And you will instinctively not bite your fucking hand off.
>> Anonymous
>>469408
holy fuck, playing ping pong by striking them with swinging nunchucks?
>> Anonymous
>>468808
You know, physics.
F = m * a
What he lacks in mass he makes up for in speed.
>> S.T.A.L.K.E.R. !3GqYIJ3Obs
>>469445
>>469445

>a
>speed
>> Anonymous
>>469450
I doubt that OP knows what to accelerate means.
>> Anonymous
>>469409
You haven't even tried it have you? You just can't bite down very hard at all from that position.

If you're really afraid of hurting yourself, use something like a rattan stick instead of your had. It's soft enough that you should leave indentations in it if you bite down hard enough. You'll find you won't leave very large indentations, if any at all.
>> Anonymous
>>469408

As an Asian person I should be offended that they just stuck any Asian guy in a Japanese Phys Ed uniform and called him Bruce Lee. But I can't bring myself to be offended because we all really do "rook the same".
>> Anonymous
>>469462

I tried it too. I can bite strongly in that position.