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Alright /fit/, I've always been interested in martial arts but always too poor/lazy to find a place and get started. I've got the cash for classes and travel now and I'm pretty motivated to get started--thing is, I don't know WHICH one of the numerous arts to get in to.

I'm a skinny-fag (~130lbs, 5'7") so I'm pretty sure anything that requires innate strength right off the bat is not my bag but I'm open to anything, really.
>> Anonymous
>>241005
whata wrong with TKD?
>> OP
>>241057
Seconding the question; apparently, there are twelve different TKD schools in VA/DC/MD.
>> Anonymous
>>241057
Impractical in real life situation, mah boi.
>> Anonymous
Oh shit, I'm from NOVA, there's a taekwondo mjdojo in nearly every strip mall out here.
>> Anonymous
>>241057
>>241079

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KqUHQzyHFs
>> Anonymous
>>241154
I agree with this.

Too often now days, people think in terms of "BJJ/MMA=win", "aikido/ TKD" lose. It is true, many fights are won and lost on the ground, and through chokes and whatnot. It is also true, that if you kick someones teeth out before they get their hands on you, the fight will be over. Also, any good MA training starts with mindset and situational awareness, your two biggest allies in any potential conflict. Learning how people act when they are looking to fight, or just bluffing. And learning that avoidance and deescalation are more desirable than conflict. Most fights happen because the messages presented to the aggressor are either confrontational and/or (passive/vulnerable/beta. Learn to confuse when appropriate, and be direct when needed. Thats about it.
>> Anonymous
Whatever you decide to take make sure it has plenty of full on sparring. Something like judo or sambo will make you a very solid fighter because of all the sparring and fighting involved, thats why they're both very successful in mma fighting. Aikido is very fishy because of the lack of real sparring, you'll learn to block half asses attacks and you'll practice form on opponents that wont resist. Judo or sambo will really let you find ways to make your techniques work on fast resisting opponents.
>> Anonymous
Give combat sambo, systema or krav maga a try. Very practical and none of that bullshit from Aikido or juijutsue.
>> Anonymous
>>241165
problem is, theres not alot of places where you can learn those types of martial arts.
Most places have the most basics styles like TDK, karate, aikido, etc.

Wish I could learn samba or some other more offensive type of style.
>> Anonymous
>>241165
>>241157
I didn't mean to imply you expected immediate results, I was only responding to the previous poster's comment about a "learning curve" and taking too long to be "combat effective"
I've never been taught Aikido, but I've read about and spoken with people who have taken it and from what I know it relies very little on physical strength. It's hard for me to explain in text, but the technique is about taking the path of least resistance in order to send the other guy on his ass. If you watch some videos (see: http://youtube.com/watch?v=sJ8VLPPTuH0 ) you can see it doesn't involve a lot of muscle and is mostly about knowing how and where to push, pull or twist.
>> Anonymous
>>241165
And what "bullshit" is that exactly?
>>241157
I didn't mean to imply you expected immediate results, I was only responding to the previous poster's comment about a "learning curve" and taking too long to be "combat effective"
I've never been taught Aikido, but I've read about and spoken with people who have taken it and from what I know it relies very little on physical strength. It's hard for me to explain in text, but the technique is about taking the path of least resistance in order to send the other guy on his ass. If you watch some videos (see: http://youtube.com/watch?v=sJ8VLPPTuH0 ) you can see it doesn't involve a lot of muscle and is mostly about knowing how and where to push, pull or twist.
>> Anonymous
>>241180
Aikido doesn't have nearly enough real sparring for a grappling ma and Jujitsu was created to take out opponents that were heavily armored and slow. They also both have a bunch of "secret techniques" that never work because you can never practice them on someone who's trying to beat the shit out of you.

When tokyo became that capitol of japan the police forces needed to learn a martial art to take out criminals without the use of firearms(they were illegal) so they held a competition between the best judo school and the best Jujitsu school in japan. Judo won almost ever single match and today the Tokyo police will O Soto Gari your ass into the ground instead of doing some gay ass "secret technique".
>> Anonymous
I've taken judo and studied Brazilian jujitsu, and at an expert level, they're almost the same on the ground. Rear-naked choke, guillotine choke, triangle choke, arm bar/arm lock, leg bar/leg lock, etc you learn in both. It becomes universal once you're experienced enough. I don't take wrestling, but I bet there are similar concepts - try to control the opponent by being on top and somehow pinning them down.

Same with striking. Muay Thai, Sanshou and regular kickboxing have so many similar techniques that once you're sparring, it's almost all the same. The only differences are what each art emphasizes - ie: Sanshou has catching a kick. But guess what, if you're athletic enough and experienced enough in Muay Thai, you learn the little nuances and tricks when fighting and so you can catch a kick too.

So, forms are important, but look for a class that has lots of sparring. That's where you learn to fight the most, in an environment where you can practice your techniques and see what works and what doesn't.
>> Anonymous
>>241180
real aikido relies very much on joint manipulation. if you find an old school korean teacher you'll probably learn a lot of wrist and finger locks which require very little strength b/c they're small joints. however, it is very hard to practice properly since an inexperienced practiioner of small joint manipulation could easily do serious damage by accident during sparring.
>> Anonymous
Aikido and Taekwondo are probably the most misjudged Martial Arts ever in the world. I'll delve a bit OP...

Aikido is about stopping fights, wether that be tripping a man or breaking his arm in five places before he can say "WHY SO SERIOUS?!". Aikido is looked down on by professional fighters because its not a ring fighting style. Its not something where rules are applied. Its something to stop people. And if everything about it was used in full force or practiced on live opponents, they'd be put in the hospital. Its not meant to be used for anything but self-defense. If you try to compare it to anything else, you are a fool. This doesn't mean that other MA's can't be used for self-defense or are inferior to Aikido, just that its stupid and pointless to belittle something that can NEVER work professionally in a ring, and those who try fail at it because they can't break the guy's bones.

Taekwondo is very good for balance and agility. Personally, I would never kick a man on the street in the jaw because there is a chance I can go off balance and he may have a knife (which is not something you want your ankle near). But its good for balance and is decent in normal striking MA. It should never be used in MMA by itself, as of course most striking arts (especially ones that take you off balance) are going to be raped by grappling arts. Its only natural a GRAB stops a punch. Anyone who looks down on TKD for not being a grappling art is kind of a dumb loser. But its still decent for self-defense and balance.

Someone mentioned Jiu-Jitsu was shit...compared to Judo. Obviously someone does not understand WHAT the two are. Jiu-Jitsu is the same thing as Judo, just focused on the artform and discipline of the style where as Judo's focus is primarily on the fighting aspect. Both are great and at the top for grappling and MMA.
>> Anonymous
>>241610
Me again, continuing post

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. I really don't like this style. Most people believe BJJ + Muay Thai = instant win. BJJ practioners belittle other MA's, fail to see their purposes and good aspects, and go around trying to prove how they superior. The Gracie family did this to just about all martial arts, and while yes they did come out victorious most times, I don't think you can judge a style based on a few spars with one or two guys from said style. BJJ practitioners have a very cocky and arrogant attitude, as well as belittling others and seeming to have respect or discipline. I find this very disturbing in a martial art, and have to suggest you steer clear from it.

My personal reccomendations are anything karate, judo, jiu-jitsu, muay thai, ninjitsu, kung-fu, bajiquan, American Boxing, and Tung Soo Do. When looking for a decent school, the more traditional the better and the more guranteed you are a good teacher. But if you have limited options...watch some classes. Take note at how the instructor deals with students. If he is careful and tries to lead them correctly and show them what to do, if he is able to do this without confusing the students. Or see if he ignores the ones that don't do it right. If you see problems here then just walk out, its not worth your time. If you see the things I said to look for being good, then go for it.
>> Anonymous
>>241612
Ah, made a few typos. BJJ guys have no respect or discipline. Sorry.
>> Anonymous
if you have the money for the classes and travel I suggest going to china to learn the ways of the shaolin.
>> Anonymous
To kick ass, nothing beats wing chun. did for only a year and it taught me alot. its a close fighting style often the choice martial art in hong kong street fighting.

definatly worth a look, although can be hard to find a local sifu
>> The Judge
>>241654
I had a decent Sifu for a while, got most of the way through the Silum Tao, plus basic punching and grappling. Then we found out that he was using our fees to buy crack, and got run off.

I'm still looking for a decent sifu in my area. I figure I'm gonna move after rotations, and find one in a new area. But yeah, Wing Chun is good. It was made by women, for smaller people to combat larger people, so it fit's OP's profile.
>> Anonymous
>>241721
HOLY
FUCKING
SHIT

WOW
>> Anonymous
>>241721
This shit deserves uncmpressed facepal.png at 2048x2730
>> Anonymous
>>241623

What a wide generalization you made. The Brazilian Jiu jitsu club at our school has regular folks, and the teacher is nice guy who sometimes jokes around with his students. They bow before entering the studio, and bow before leaving. I find them just as disciplined and respecting as any other MA group.

Why are you so bitter to a MA that kicked the ass of those inefficient? Those BJJ vs Aikido exhibitions didn't have any rules against finger manipulations or required gloves - the aikido people they challenged could have used the finger joint techniques.

As for OP, I took judo, kickboxing and tae kwon do. I suggest judo and kickboxing.
>> Anonymous
Aikido and taekwondo fail not because their techniques are ineffective, it's because they're don't train at full intensity. Realistic training scenarios prepare the mind for the fight, which MMA and the military do outstandingly. That's why you see the vast majority of taekwondoists and aikidoka get knocked around by the ring sports, it's that they don't know what to do when someone is actually trying to hurt them. I know that these arts claim that if they went full contact, people would be seriously injured. But a simple fact is this: practice makes perfect. Modern self-defense arts (they're are a lot of them out there) have done this. They provide enough protective equipment to participants to practice all out assaults on the most vulnerable parts of the human body. Face shields for eye gouges, padding for body shots, cups for groin kicks. If aikido and taekwondo don't make an effort to provide a safe environment that maximizes contact and intensity that is unique to their arts, like the ring sports, modern self-defense arts, and the military do, other fighters will continue to make fun of aikido and taekwondo as ineffective.
>> Anonymous
>>241778

JKD is basically the predecessor to MMA. JKD is a philosophy of not wasting movement, adapting to the other opponent, crosstraining in more than one MA so you have a bigger set of tools in a fight, being direct rather than waste energy with useless forms, and so on.

I think it's a good philosophy, but modern JKD trainers are too hung up on preconceived definitions of JKD (ie they only bother with Bruce Lee's every single move).
>> Anonymous
>>241812
Doesn't sound like it would be a great starting point; or am I just taking this the wrong way?
>> Anonymous
Something off the beaten path, try Capoeira.
>> Anonymous
>>241721
Good fucking lord that guy wastes alot of movement.
>> Anonymous
>>241644
To be would be a fucking honor.. travel to the source country of such techniques...

maybe some day
>> Anonymous
You should all learn to do Seppuku
>> Anonymous
>>241612
>ninjitsu
this
>> Anonymous
>>241810

Good point, arts that give you the killer instinct are where it's at. Aikido, tae kwon do, and too many kung fu styles don't let you practice hard against an fully resisting opponent.
>> Anonymous
>>241810
>>242231

The "killer instinct" is not the key to martial arts. It's the focus and drive, and the ability to control yourself, thereby controlling the situation.

Play to your size and strength. Flexibility and adaptability should be your calling cards. Chinese styles like Baguazheng, Choy Li Fut, and Wing Chun. Or Japanese styles like Aikido or Judo. Fluidity like in Savate (the French MA of kicking ass while looking like one) or Capoeira has more to offer a guy with your body type while training your body.
>> Anonymous
if you have the 'killer instinct' or whatever you sociopathic fags call it, you should at least get paid to kill by the government.

join the marines.
>> Anonymous
>>242475

>t's the focus and drive, and the ability to control yourself, thereby controlling the situation.

That's killer instinct.

Killer instinct is a term not necessarily meaning you're going to kill someone, its more like another phrase for warrior spirit. There's no point to learning to fight unless you're willing to hurt someone. That's what full-contact practice and realistic training scenarios are for, and that's why aikido, TKD, and most kungfu's fail at being martial and succeed more at being art. Personally, I think if anyone wants to learn those styles to fight, they're better off learning how to dance or paint, instead of wasting they're time with learning that garbage.
>> Little Busters !!cYRK7ZeKVyk
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Take wrestling.

Pic related, it's what I learned to do at Crossfit.
>> Anonymous
Protip: Any good martial arts school/dojo will train you from the ground-up. You'll develop strength and conditioning as you go.

I took karate for years when I was a kid. I hated it at the time, but now I wish I stuck with it. I'll probably re-join soon.
>> Anonymous
kali, i know i know its a name of a drug but its also the name of the martial art that was developed by bruce lee and dan inosanto. its practiced by such people as rick faye, who is world renouned and almost always the first person to call when advice is needed by hollywood, that film never back down i think it was called? well the main feller was trained by rick proffesionally. it incorparates modern arts such as silat which is the french bale art, panatukan, philipino boxing, weapon work, mkg and every other practical art and emphasis on practical martial art out there none of the long stancekarate couldnt use in a real fight crap and does keep you fit. its always evolving and adding more things to keep you fit and healthy iv been going for five years im currently 18 years old 118 pounds with a lean physically good looking body and i attend 3 ties a week.
>> Anonymous
dont take taekwon do
go for some ninjitsu, its siiicck