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Aikido Anonymous
Does anyone have experience with Aikido?

I'm thinking of going to a try-out-training, but I'm lazy, so give me your opinions first.
>> Anonymous
For health or what?

If you want to learn to fight, take boxing, Muay Thai and/or Brazillian Jiu-Jitsu.

Those will probably get you in shape anyhow.
>> Anonymous
Mostly to stay fit, but if I can learn some cool moves, that's even better.
>> Anonymous
I practiced aikido for a while, and I really liked the flowing aspects of the moves, but I don't pretend for a second that it is an effective martial art.
>> Anonymous
judo is better to begin with.

srsly, aikido is useless unless your opponents are just going to give themselves up, you would always end up falling back on judo techs
>> Anonymous
>>286994

Aikido is basically Judo with locks.

Please explain how it's useless.
>> Anonymous
>>287017
You're an idiot.
>> Anonymous
>>287017

D'aw, that's adorable. Anon likes to talk out of his ass. Shut up.

>>286982

Hey, don't waste your time, man. I'm fucking surrounded by tons of aikido dojos, and they're all major time wasters. Come on, do you really think you'll lose much weight or stay fit by letting somebody bend your elbow a little too far to the side without fighting back? Just go to a gym, and barring that, go learn something at least practical. Aikido dojos usually charge stupid prices for some reason.
>> Anonymous
>>287027

You're surrounded by shit dojos, so they're all shit?

Aikido is sooo variable. Don't train under some Steven Seagal wanna be fag.
>> Actual Instructor !2dC8hbcvNA
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>>286982

Most people in this thread really don't know what they're talking about.

There are two different types of Aikido. Aikijitsu (mostly popularized by Steven Segal) and Aiki-budo. Aiki-budo is Morihei Ueshiba's art, (the guy in the pic, who founded Aikido.)

Aikijitsu is basically Aikido with a bunch of "hard-style" moves trying to make it look more effective. Aikido is a much more pure art, circular and very powerful. It won't help you get "fit" really, because it's not very intense (if it is , you're at the wrong dojo.)

More than probably any other art in the world, Aikido is done wrong in most dojos. Don't take it if people aren't friendly/laughing about it, that's what Aikido is about. It's not about doing damage to your opponent.

Aikido is about not harming your opponents, and solving fights with internal actualization, not external force.
Ai = Love, Ki = Force, Do = Way

Anyway, if you want something that'll get you fit, take Kenpo/Shotokan/Muay Thai or a hard linear art like the aforementioned.
>> Actual Instructor !2dC8hbcvNA
>>287036

Adding to last post.

Take Aikido if you can find the right dojo / have the lack of ego required to not have to hit/kick your way to victory. Aikido is about taking the more subtle and peaceful path to victory. At a certain degree of mastery you will probably never find yourself in a fight again.

If you want to be a badass though, take conventional Chinese/Thai/Indian martial arts. You'll gain a lot of muscle and tone yourself better. The increase if confidence comes either way.

That's it probably.
>> Anonymous
>>287036
>Ai = Love
lol no
>> Actual Instructor !2dC8hbcvNA
>>287038

http://japanese.about.com/bl50kanji_ai.htm
>> Anonymous
>>287039
but it's ???.
>> Anonymous
>>287039
?--->Ai--->Aimasu--->To meet/Harmonize
>> Actual Instructor !2dC8hbcvNA
>>287040

I appreciate your enthusiasm, but there are several ways to express Hiragana/Kanji. I am not a Japanese expert, which I guess is why you're trying to correct me on the most semantic and irrelevant part of my previous post, either way...

The translation is correct. Several sites other than that one confirm it. The Kanji for "Ai" (love) is a single character, in this case, taken out of context of the entire word (like Aikido or Aishiteru Imasu, for example) but still accurate to its essential definition.

Anyway, refute me on something more interesting while I'm still around.
>> Actual Instructor !2dC8hbcvNA
>>287043

No, Ai is a single character. ? "Love."

Jeez.
>> Anonymous
>>287047
depends on the context you use the word. "ai" can mean "love" or "harmonize." just like budo, which can mean "martial arts" or "grapes"

and to keep things /fit/ related, incorporate SQUATZ in your martial arts training FOR AWESOME LEG POWER!!!!!
>> Actual Instructor !2dC8hbcvNA
>>287053

>> but there are several ways to express Hiragana/Kanji

>> in this case, taken out of context of the entire word (like Aikido or Aishiteru Imasu, for example) but still accurate to its essential definition.

It feels like I said that before.
>> Anonymous
>>287056
wasn't paying attention. but, yea....i can understand where you're coming from. it all becomes a play on words.
>> Actual Instructor !2dC8hbcvNA
>>287061

Cool. I see your point also - Japanese is pretty arcane to Westerners in the way it can mince words.

A consensus is reached for the first time on 4chan, ever.
>> Anonymous
>>287062
awesome

>>286982
well...go try it for yourself. if you enjoy it, then go for it. are there any other martial arts clubs/schools in your area?
>> Anonymous
I have one month exp of high school judo. But I do lurk in /k/ and own revolver so i don't need to work out.
>> Anonymous
>>287070
so, if I own a gun....i won't need to work out....ever?
>> Anonymous
Sounds interesting, I will definitely try it out.

>>287068
Well there are quite a few. There are several Shotokan Karate clubs, a Kyokushinkai Karate club, a school that offers Jeet Kune Do and Insanto Kali, a Wing Tsun school, a Muay Thai school, and probably some I don't know about.

Anyway I don't really know anything about any of these martial arts, but looks like it also depends a lot on the school.
>> Anonymous
>>287072
all i can say is do your research. check out the other schools and watch a class when you have the chance.

if you want to do something that would get you in shape, i'd suggest the kyokushin and muay thai classes
>> Actual Instructor !2dC8hbcvNA
>>287080
^ is super good advice.
>> Anonymous
op beware

bullshido.net
>> Anonymous
yea....feel free to go to bullshido.net, OP.

but, don't let the opinions and advice over there stop you from checking out any martial art
>> Anonymous
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ignore this.
>> Anonymous
>>287098
WHAT IS THIS MOONSPEAK?
>> Anonymous
find a video of aikido guys actually sparring

i dare you to
>> Anonymous
>>287102

I LOL'D
>> Anonymous
Protip: Challenging your future instructor is a great way to know if he knows his shit.

If he can't send you to the ground in one move SAFELY, he is made of fail and pwn'd
>> Anonymous
>>287114

Yes, because you can't win a fight without "sending someone to the ground"...

Jesus.
>> Anonymous
>>287128
thats what happens in aikido faggot and usually ending up in a wrist lock.
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>>287017
What did you just say?
>> Anonymous
>>287114
>If he can't send you to the ground in one move SAFELY, he is made of fail and pwn'd
Uh no. Aikido is only safe if the recipient of the lock does not resist(or only minimally) AND knows how to fall/roll.
At full force and with sufficient resistance those wrist locks can turn into wrist breaks, not to mention a few missing teeth/concussion if the recipient face-plants or otherwise botches on the landing.

That being said, OP should begin with a decent striking style for general conditioning (not to mention being able to both give and take a punch) then cross train a little aikido and/or judo on the side, just to learn to wristlock/throw and fall.
>> Anonymous
>>287238

>cross train a little aikido and/or judo on the side, just to learn to wristlock/throw and fall

Just out of curiosity, do a lot of schools just not teach wristlocks/throws as part of training? I've been taking one style for a few years now, and aside from the basic striking and blocking, we practice throwing/locking too. Is that rare or something?
>> Anonymous
Hardly anyone seems to understand nowadays that real martial arts are something that can be taken much, much further than this MMA bullshit. Your body is limited. You cannot sustain peak physical fitness for long. You will begin to deteriorate. Martial arts, especially Japanse budo arts, focus on techniques that rely on physical fitness so little that you can still perform at old age. It's about power created through using the strongest motions against the weakest targets; an attack that comes from precisely the correct direction at precisely the correct moment on precisely the correct spot. It's about speed created through minimized motion and reacting fast to the point of predicting the opponent. All this requires only tons of "hard" training, which means to practice with 100% concentration. Concentration is crucial, obviously.

You can't advance as fast but you will never stop advancing. With decades of training you will reach levels of skill unattainable by the sport fighting of today,
>> Anonymous
To the faggot that said aikijutsu is less effective than aikido, get the fuck out. Aikijutsu is a battlefield martial art that the samurai used, aikido is the pussified version.
>> Anonymous
>>287607
>>287607
>>287607
>>287607

That's why in addition to high-impact MMA I am learning traditional martial arts. I want to be 50 years old and still be able to kick ass.
>> Anonymous
>>287630

That's fine too. Do you try to train the traditional art when you spar or do you train strictly separately. Because separation is bad even though you'd be holding back on using part of your muscle strength. You should use every chance you get to train the traditional art because it takes a lot of time in any case.
>> Anonymous
>>287407
Not rare at all actually. A lot of styles try to be all-inclusive or comprehensive, but for one reason or another (tourney rules, instructor preference, local demand, etc.) put emphasis on one aspect over another. So, to be really good at something, you'd find a school that spent more of its time teaching that one thing.