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Anonymous
I'm fat, and want to become reasonably toned.

So what's gonna happen if I go straight to lifting? Will it also burn the fat effectively, or am I just going to be building muscle underneath my jelly rolls for the most part?

Also, I keep hearing about how using the machines in the gym is terrible compared to just using the dumbbells and benching. Why is this? Does the added support make it a less effective exercise?
>> Anonymous
Bump
>> Anonymous
You've unleashed hell
>> Anonymous
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inb4 kermit
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or not
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TONED?
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Just Fuck Off
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>> Anonymous
Oh well, apparently I set off some gay meme bomb here. Fuck it, nevermind.
>> Anonymous
Real answer: machines force your joints and muscles into unnatural movements which put excess pressure on your joints. Not all machines do this, but some (mostly the leg ones).

Also, machines should be avoided because they do not engage your "stabilizer" muscles that are utilized when doing dumbbells.
>> Anonymous
>>417745
OH MY GOD WHY ARE THOSE BOXES FLOATING IN MID-AIR?

Also, TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING TONING
>> Anonymous
>Oh well, apparently I set off some gay meme bomb here. Fuck it, nevermind.
I fucking lol'd
>> Anonymous
The Toning Kermit is merciless hunter, preying upon helpless newfags and waiting to strike until the oportune moment.
>> Anonymous
This, sadly, is the greatest thread /fit/ has ever had.