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Anonymous
I'm going to start a vegan/vegetarian diet so I can lose weight and feel good about myself/act smug around meat eaters.

Seriously tho, is there anything important I should know before I start this new diet? Or is there anything anyone would like to say about it?
>> Anonymous
Get complete proteins, make sure to get vitamin b12 and calcium. Read up about your diet. Be prepared for your hair to fall out if you don't eat properly, seriously.
>> Anonymous
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ya go kill yourself you pathetic peice of shit
>> Anonymous
>>388223

Anyone who chooses this diet for moral purposes needs to inhale 3 gallons of walrus urine before I can forgive their idiocy.
>> ophere !a2SVXv/QYI
nice, i love you vegans.

Yeah that looks pretty good, I suggest you eat nuts aswell.
>> Anonymous
>>388223
oh snap monkey!!! i love monkey brains!
>> ophere !a2SVXv/QYI
>>388225
internet tough guy

nah joking, i love you insecure fools who know deep in themselves that eating incarcerated animal products is immoral and wrong, so they have to beat down those with better self-discipline that them.

seriously, you're cute.
>> Anonymous
so is that why we have opposible thumbs for strangling animals and canine teeth for tearing thier delicious asses apart.

ANS: Yes
>> Anonymous
Successful troll is successful.
>> Anonymous
>>388232

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=grill

Read it, shithead.
>> ophere !a2SVXv/QYI
>>388245
yeah, ok.

1. I'm not a vegan, I just eat free-range meat.
2. The deaths are generally as a result of loss of habitat, not being killed.
3. They are not kept in a fucking 0.5 foot cube cage their whole life before being decapitated.
>> Anonymous
>>388248
wtf is free range meat??
>> Anonymous
Christ, looking just looking at that pyramid makes me feel sick with the total lack of meat.
>> Anonymous
>>388262
some people don't like to slaughter innocent animals
besides, its healthier and you feel more full because you have to eat a lot of it and you'll never get as fat as meat eating murderers
>> Anonymous
>>388266

shut the fuck up, don't try to make people feel guilty for their food choices. don't be a fucking elitist "vegan" faggot. what a lame way to feel "smug" around other people, are you that desperate? you really have nothing else to be proud of? idiot.
>> Anonymous
>>388245
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 10:23:52 -0800
From: PETA Correspondent <info@peta.org>
To: maddox@xmission.com
Subject: response requested

Thank you for contacting PETA about animals killed during grain harvesting.
While it is true that animals are killed during harvesting, there is a lot
more to this story than meets the eye. First, we, and animals rights
advocates in general, are primarily concerned with preventing the suffering
of living animals. While millions of animals are killed each year in the
harvesting process, millions of animals suffer EVERY DAY in the meat
industry. BILLIONS of animals are tortured and slaughtered for food every
year in the United States alone. All of these animals being raised for meat
eat grain. In fact, they consume more than half of all of the grain produced
in this country. If the population of the United States were vegetarian, we
would actually require LESS grain, and thereby kill fewer animals during
harvesting. When you eat meat, not only are you contributing to the
suffering of the farmed animals, but you are also contributing to the
majority of the animals killed during harvesting.

If you have a moment, I'd like to know in which restaurant you saw this
"Guiltless Grill" menu section. Thanks again for your message. We appreciate
the opportunity to discuss this important issue.

Sincerely,

Cliff Kaminsky
PETA Correspondent
>> Anonymous
>>388271
i have a right to feel better than you. its because i am better than you. i have no involvement in slaughtering animals and i detest people who condone eating animals for whatever reason. theres no reason you should be eating another animal in this day and age when you can get all you nutrients in other ways

if you give a child a rabbit and an apple to eat, they'll play with the rabbit and eat the apple.
>> Anonymous
I feel sorry for the animals that are killed/tortured/whatever for our food, but... THEY ARE SO DELICIOUS. I can't stop eating them.

Is it immoral? No. Why not? Because I trust that most of the time they're treated like they're supposed to (not tortured).
Does it really suck for those animals? Yes, but that's their lot in life.
They were designed/bred for the sole purpose of being delicious.

So everyone do SQUATZ in memory for those delicious animals that you eat for they will be built into muscle.
>> Anonymous
its partly you meat eaters fault that shit like this happens

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_jAQAQUfZo

sure its ok to eat animals! how about we wear them? ok!~
>> Anonymous
We are animals, therefore it is not immoral to eat other animals. You don't walk up to a lion and say, "Don't eat antelope, it's immoral."
>> Anonymous
>>388283

That's why countless rabbits and mice are killed when harvesting those vegetables you like right?
>> Anonymous
>>388292
What is with vegetarian moralfags and shock value? It seems that they enjoy videos like this....
>> Anonymous
>>388283
>if you give a child a rabbit and an apple to eat, they'll play with the rabbit and eat the apple.
Yeah.
We should base all of our decisions on what children would do.
>> Anonymous
thats because that childs parents are retards. fact is: humans have been consuming animals for thousands of years, and now that weve perfected the art of them entering my mouth, you feel guilty. history will look back at vegans as the scum of the earth and the cause of all problems.
>> Anonymous
>>388293
so you admit that you're as intelligent as a lion?
>> Anonymous
>>388294
i grow my own vegetables thank you very much
>> Anonymous
>>388293
we're not just animals, we're intelligent animals.
we don't have to eat meat or wear fur anymore, theres other ways to do that now. the ones who still eat meat are dumbass barbarians
>> Anonymous
>>388307
Yes, and vegetarians are intelligent as cows.
HURR HURR
>> Anonymous
>>388307
Since when is intelligence involved in morals?
>> Anonymous
since when is intelligence involved in getting fucking huge of dead animals?
>> ophere !a2SVXv/QYI
>>388286
Yeah but they aren't tortured and incarcerated.
>>388273
stuff like this that makes me like PETA, but yeah, that's the exact same argument that i posted.
>>388293
Almost all the time that they're not free range they aren't, and very often even when free range they aren't fed or looked after properly.

I expected way more /fit/izens to be trolling in here. Good show.
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You liberal vegan faggots are just as bad as the religious fundies with your silly made up beliefs and dogmatic attitudes.
>> Anonymous
Being a vegetarian is scientifically proven to not be natural for human beings.

Also, our closest relatives love to enjoy some meat:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDFh5JdYh7I
>> Anonymous
>>388320
Do you have higher res. picture of that?
>> Anonymous
meat is yumz
>> ophere !a2SVXv/QYI
>>388320
That's picture's fucking stupid.

We have shitty carnivore teeth. There.

Also, I'm going to add that imo being vegetarian is pointless if you're not vegan.

You're funding the exact same behaviour, even worse if you use dairy products as a replacement for meat.
>> Anonymous
OP here:

After reading this thread over, and hearing some of the arguments, I've decided to include meat in my diet.

Thanks for all of your information.
>> Anonymous
>>388323

Sorry bro, that's all I got.

>>388328

Shut your face dickwad, I'm tired of listening to your pathetic hippie arguments
>> Anonymous
dude op youre a looser. if we werent meant to eat meat we'd die if we ate it. Just like we cant eat grass you goddamn gluebag. stop trying to find the easiest way to feel morally superior because its pathetic. youre not superior, youre weak and feeble.
>> Anonymous
holy shit! vegans hate vegetarians!??!?!
>> ophere !a2SVXv/QYI
>>388331
imitationfag
>> Anonymous
>>388338

OP here:

I've decided to eat meat. See:>>388331
>> Anonymous
>>388340

Who are you to say that's not the real OP?
>> Anonymous
>>388343
fuck you im op you asshole
>> Anonymous
>>388273
PETA kills animals. I fucking hate them. They would rather kill your pets, than have them as pets because it is "abuse". True Story.

They are also terrorist and have had their head hancho say they would be willing to blow up buildings to get their point across.

I fucking hate PETA, but I am for animal rights. They are just doing it WRONG.

www.petakillsanimals.com
>> Anonymous
>>388349

What!? Piss off! I'm the OP!
>> Anonymous
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Lol no, I'm the OP
>> Anonymous
>>388351
you're as much an asshole as these vegan fags
spouting viral shock shit omgz peta killz ur petz and they blow shit upz they r evilz
fuck you. how about you form your own opinion instead of going along blindly with other peoples spewing the same dogmatic shit
>> Anonymous
>>388356
Actually, I did. I did my research and looked at PUBLIC DOMAIN information, and found that PETA shelters actually euthanized MORE pets and found less homes for these pets than standard shelters did.

Don't get your panties in a wad because your organization is full of hypocrites. PETA makes me disgusted.
>> Anonymous
^lol wut?
>> Anonymous
>>388328
>We have shitty carnivore teeth.

Probably because we use our hands and arms (and weapons) to kill our prey.
Whereas carnivores mainly use their mouths to rip/tear the animal, hold it, and/or bite the neck to suffocate the prey.
>> Anonymous
>>388356
There was also a huge scandal that occurred in my area where two PETA representatives had been taking people's loving pets whom they weren't able to keep anymore for whatever reasons, and promising to find them nice homes. However, right when they got them in their van, they were all euthanized and tossed into dumpsters in black plastic bags.
>> ophere !a2SVXv/QYI
>>388351
Personally, I agree that peacefully killing animals is better than keeping them in cages until someone decides they want one, which may be never.

Pets need exercise.
>> Anonymous
>>388381

Our canines are/were used for cutting apart the meat we get into our mouths
>> Anonymous
>>388371
Yep. Here is the documents/paper work. http://www.petakillsanimals.com/downloads/PetaKillsAnimals.pdf

Enjoy your physical, documented, proof. Fuck PETA.
>> Anonymous
To all the meat eaters defending their senseless slaughter because "it's natural":

>Appeal to nature is a commonly seen fallacy of relevance consisting of a claim that something is good or right because it is natural, or that something is bad or wrong because it is unnatural. In this type of fallacy nature is often implied as an ideal or desired state of being, a state of how things were, should be, or are: in this sense an appeal to nature may resemble an appeal to tradition.

>Several problems exist with this type of argument that makes it a fallacy. First of all the word "natural" is often a loaded term, usually unconsciously equated with normality, and its use in many cases is simply a form of bias. Second, "nature" and "natural" have vague definitions and thus the claim that something is natural may not be correct by every definition of the term natural; a good example would be the claim of all-natural foods, such as "all-natural" wheat, the claimed wheat though is usually a hybridised plant that has been bred by artificial selection. Lastly, the argument can quickly be invalidated by a counter-argument that demonstrates something that is natural that has undesirable properties (for example aging, illness, and death are natural), or something that is unnatural that has desirable properties (for example, many modern medicines are not found in nature, yet have saved countless lives).
>> Anonymous
>>388401
haha, guess what, fag. tl;dr
>> Anonymous
>>388398
>Our canines are/were used for cutting apart the meat we get into our mouths

Yep, that's what they're used for.
But carnivores use their sharp teeth not only for that but also to keep the animal in their jaws while it thrashes around. That's why carnivores have huge sharp teeth or are weirdly arranged.
>> Anonymous
>>388401
because we're going to believe a copypasta that has no source or reputable value? Nice try.

TRUE FACT: Eating meat is what caused us to become Bipedal. Becoming Hunters is what helped us survive the changing in climate and survive until this date. It is an integral part of our lively hood.

If you're vegan, enjoy your hospitals. You will end up in it, because you're a dumbass who cares more about construed moral than your overall health.
>> Anonymous
ATTENTION VEGANS: Not eating meat just means you're too weak and fruity to accept that sometimes, those cute fuzzy wuzzy animals have to die so that I can enjoy their innards. The innards are tasty- they taste better than your vegan diets, in fact. And that is worth the slaughter and torture of billions, even trillions of animals.
>> Anonymous
VEGANS WON'T CHANGE THE WORLD

No matter how hard they try. Enjoy your wasted time and effort.
>> Anonymous
>>388417
vegans are healthier than you fatasses
>> Anonymous
>>388428
I'm not fat, and I'm very health. Shit, guess your argument's fucked?
>> Anonymous
>>388431
healthy, rather.
>> Anonymous
>>388428
Except not. They're mostly anorexic, malnourished people and lack many essential vitamins.

Hmmm...
>> Anonymous
>>388401

That whole argument relies on semantics, and itself is an etymological fallacy. They attempt to redefine the debate by making a word mean what they want it to mean. Fail
>> Anonymous
>>388438
no not really
>> Anonymous
>>388417
4/10. Got me for a moment, but nobody's stupid enough to call the definition of an appeal to nature fallacy "a copypasta that has no source or reputable value." Honestly, it's like meat eaters can't even grasp basic reasoning. Logical fallacies need to be taught in elementary school or something.
>> Anonymous
To Vegans/Vegetarians - If you happen to like the taste of fruits and veggies. Eat them. It's a free country(unless you live in a totalitarian regime, where you're more concerned with feeding yourself on garbage than being morally superior)
But don't complain 'Boo-Hoo Other peoples are eating animals, and they don't like that. Stop making it a fucking moral issue.

Meat-eaters - Vegans/Vegitarians are allowed to not eat meat, and supplement the stuff they wouldn't get from meat with other manufactured foods that accomplish the same goals

Scientific facts - Humans are a scavenging species. We ate carrion dropped by other predators,and when meat was scarce/to get the proper nutrients, we ate plant matter, thus becoming Omnivores. This is a FACT of our existence, not something we should feel guilty about, just because we no longer need to chase scraps and can eat the GOOD parts of an animal now.
>> Anonymous
>>388428
>>388428
>>388428

Please provide an article from a well known medical journal. Otherwise your statement was fabricated.
>> Anonymous
>>388441
You provide no source for your proof. It could've come from an idiotic vegan for all we know. OH! IT PROBABLY DID ;)
>> Anonymous
>>388441
>I'm calling you a troll!
>I am also saying that your opinions, which I already said were a troll, reflect accurately the opinions of the group which you took the side of in your trolling attempt.
>> Anonymous
>>388450
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_nature

So you obviously don't go to college. No surprise there. But are you honestly to stupid to see why appealing to nature is flawed? If you really believed what you said, you'd be eating your meat raw and sleeping on the ground. And we used to live to about 25, remember? Want to go back to that? Or am I being trolled? I am, aren't I? Oh well, I'm bored anyway.

It's really sad to see that there are so many people who simply don't have the moral development necessary to tell the difference between what is and what ought to be.

Guys, Cruise Control because this is important: IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT WE WERE BEFORE, CAVEMEN ARE NOT A MODEL OF HOW TO LIVE YOUR LIFE OR WHAT IS HEALTHY. YOU CAN BE HEALTHY ON BOTH A VEGAN AND OMNIVOROUS DIET. NEITHER ONE IS INHERENTLY UNHEALTHY.

It is simply a moral choice. No matter what you say, that's the only deciding factor. I don't think I have the right to kill sentient beings just because they taste good.
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IT'S TIME TO FEAST ON MAN-FLESH
>> Anonymous
>>388452
The first sentence was directed at the troll. The second was directed at everyone saying we should eat meat because we have canines or because our ancestors did. I should have spaced those out better.
>> Anonymous
Hey, guys, OP here.

I'm doing this based on my religious beliefs, that is my true underlying meaning for coming here today, I wanted to make sure I don't fail my God by becoming malnourished and joining him too quickly.
>> CWheezy !!bJFrM5LONOF
>>388463
Yeah, you can go vegan, but you still have to take supplements because you wont get enough vitamins and minerals from the foods you can eat.

Do what you want though, I like the taste of meat to much, and it give me a lot of protein, which is what I need
>> Anonymous
>>388476
Just take a multivitamin and you'll probably be fine. Get one specifically for vegans, most common multivitamins are made from cod livers and such and they'll likely be more geared towards treating the deficiencies in a vegan diet anyway.
>> Anonymous
we dont have to live like caveman(which we should), but you cant deny the FACT that human beings dominate this fucking planet. those crazy chinese motherfucks shoot artillery at the sky to chenge the weather! Hey cow, whats your species greatest accomplishment? mooooo*shit*moooooo.

Ya fuck you then cow weve been to the moon motherfucker. and if cows didnt want to get eaten then theyd make little guns the fit thier hoves and start a fucking riot or someshit. but wait... theyre too fucking stupid. so fuck them all theyre good for is making me big after squating your entire life.

FUCKK YAYYAAAAAA
>> Anonymous
All the female vegetarians/vegans that I know are fat, and all the male vegetarians/vegans are fucking skeletal.
>> Anonymous
>>388522

Come to think of it, this is also true for the people I know.
>> Anonymous
>>388232
Smug prick. Deep down I feel just fine about eating animal flesh and in fact I would eat you too if I had the chance.
>> ophere !a2SVXv/QYI
hey guys

as far as im concerned eating sustainable unfarmed undredged fish doesn't cause anyone any harm.
>> Anonymous
>>388757
what about the poor fish =(
>> ophere !a2SVXv/QYI
>>388763
They don't even notice they're dead.

I swear fish are basically plants lol.

No but srsly, if undredged and caught well they'll have lived a good life which is more than you can say for 99.9% of the animals we eat.
>> Anonymous
>>388771
I live near a woody area and hunt my animals. Also have a relative who owns a ranch with free-range cattle that he slaughters himself.

Meat is good for you. Unfortunately not everyone has the ability to go hunt their own food, or the money to own a ranch. It is why we own supermarkets.
>> ophere !a2SVXv/QYI
>>388781
nice then.

I've occasionally eaten rabbits I've killed myself.
>> Anonymous
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Oh my, this thread is quite lulzy! I do enjoy it so.
>> Anonymous
we weep for the cry of a bird but not for the blood of a fish.

blessed are those who have a voice
>> Anonymous
Don't bother with the effort, you're going to die one day no matter what. .
>> Anonymous
/r/ing "Y'all niggas be postin in a troll thread" pic
>> Anonymous
>>388321
thx for the scientific article sourcing on youtube. it opened my herbivorian eyes.
>> Anonymous
>>388428
PROTEIN
>> Anonymous
>>389048
YOU CAN GET PROTEIN FROM VEGETABLES YOU FAGGOT