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Shoulders?
Since I started working out with freeweights my arms have been getting more muscular and defined but I'm not seeing much improvement in my shoulders, they look a little better but not much.
What can I do for them with a regular weight bench at home? Will benching, squatz and curls just eventually do it or is there something better specifically for shoulders?

Also to a lesser extent my chest is like this, do these areas just take a bit longer than biceps/triceps?
>> Anonymous
Overhead press and Olympic liftan.
>> Anonymous
>>Will benching, squatz and curls

yes. just bench heavier
>> Anonymous
>>183090
I'm currently at 110, it's shitty but I'm getting there, problem is this is all the weights I've got and it's all that will fit on my bar.
>> Anonymous
>>183090
Thanks I guess I'll just stick to what I'm doing and maybe try some overheads
>> Anonymous
Shoulders are really REALLY hard to work. Dont expect them to get huge unless you dip into illegal substances.

Work on them when you can.
>> Anonymous
>>183097
Ok but when you say work on them you mean things like>>183081?
Or just stuck to>>183090?

I'm not looking to get huge but just get any definition to them at all, right now I've got none.
>> Anonymous
There are tons of things you can do that will work your traps. I would search some workout sites. They normally have workouts for each part of the body.
>> Anonymous
shoulders are a pain in the ass -- i've moved up on weights on everything but my shoulders at least two or three times in the past month.
>> Anonymous
Trust me man you wont get huge, I eat like a fucking house, lift hard, and its still taking months for serious size to show. The whole thing is dedication, every time you lift, try to either lift more weight than before, or lift it for longer. Ideally you want to start shifting stuff over your own bodyweight, because you aren't really pushing your muscles anywhere just lifting light weight forever, just getting tired and probably losing weight.

People are afraid of getting big- so they are lazy in their workout, then when they want to get big they are even lazier and turn to drugs to help them. All it takes, either to get toned, get slim, get big, whatever your goals are is dedication and hard work. You know within yourself if you are doing the best you can.

When you bench you get stuck under the bar, when you squat you cant walk for days, when you deadlift your eyes bleed. This is the type of dedication that WILL get you any results in life.

For the 110 guy, think about it this way- either a gym membership or a homemade bucket+cement+pole squat rack + bar and 200kg ~ $300 will seriously change the way you look, feel and think for the rest of your life about yourself and others around you; or you can continue lifting how you are for free and complain on /fit/.

(make sure you drink a lot of water, sleep 8+ hours a night, and try to wank a little bit less, thats protein leaving your body.)
>> Anonymous
>>183077
If i'm not mistaken won't pull ups help work the shoulders? also Kettlebells? I could be wrong though.
>> Anonymous
>>183111
Thanks man, I'm the OP and the 110 guy, I've already dropped 70 pounds and I'm working on just getting healthier in general. I recently hit a plateau that is giving me a shitton of trouble though.

So basically if I just keep up at what I'm doing my chest and shoulders will eventually look normal or even toned somewhat?
>> Anonymous
>>183117
I'm not sure how I'd do pull ups, probably have to go find a tree in the woods...

I wish I could buy better equipment or a membership but I'm fucking broke for now.
>> Anonymous
>>183123
You have nothing to lose if you try. For breaking plateaus consider taking a break from lifting for a few weeks, eat more but eat clean CLEAN CLEAN, that means vegetables and red meats only, fuck chicken breast its for fags, limit your pasta intake, eat balanced (fruits, veggies, meat, some type of fibre) every meal- you wont suddenly gain all the weight back, but you will gain size in terms of definition.

If you starve yourself, you are starving your muscles. How tall are you? Its hard to tone on a 110 frame.
>> Anonymous
>>183134
No no no, sorry I just realized what I typed I meant I'm currently benching 110.

I'm at 190ish and 5'11" like I said this is down from around 265 though.
>> Anonymous
lol, what set of circumstances led to the event depicted in the OP pic?
>> Anonymous
>>183139
SQUATZ!
>> ZC !ZcFit7DWNs
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For shoulders,
- Overhead presses
- Bench presses at all angles
- Close grip bench presses
- Weighted dips
- An assload of barbell rows
- An assload of seated rows
- An assload of lat pulls/pull ups

For traps,
- Deadlifts
- Stiff legged deadlifts
- Shrugs
- Snatches
- Cleans
- Power cleans
>> Anonymous
op, for some reason upright rows have always worked really well for me to develop my deltoids and traps. if you do them don't raise your elbows above your shoulders, or risk rotator cuff issues.
>> Anonymous
>>183148
Thanks everyone, I'm hoping if I focus on one or two areas like this it'll help me not get frustrated over my sudden lack of weight loss lol
>> °-° !!yxFrHrMXyX9
Overhead presses and cleans. You have to clean the bar onto your shoulders for an overhead press anyway.
>> Anonymous
>>183157
It might help you ignore the problem but won't fix it.
>> Anonymous
ZC is a pretty cool guy, eh camwhores while dispensing good advice and doesn't afraid of anything.
>> Anonymous
>>183193
i lol'd