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Hey /fit/
What's the perfect way to throw a KO sucker punch?
Overhand right?
Hook?
Spinning Backfist?
Jab?
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>> Anonymous
Punch the balls.
>> Anonymous
OP here
my vote is for overhand right, that motherfucker is devastating.
I left out a bunch of punches like superman ect.
>> Theodore Roosevelt
superman punch is my favorite.

flying knee followed with an elbow is always nice too.

but for simple efficiency and ko power you can't beat the hook.
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>> Anonymous
gun
>> Anonymous
Depends on guys and training. I personally like the hook.
>> Anonymous
>>326035


>>perfect way to throw a KO sucker punch?
>> Anonymous
unless you're actually very good at punching, I suggest a straight in the stomach followed by a knee to the face. More efficient and more manly
>> Anonymous
>>326037
If you're throwing a sucker punch don't you have the time you need to set up a well thrown punch?
>> Anonymous
Haymaker hook to the liver... will take your average bloke down or at the very least knock the gusto to fight clean out of him.

>>326024

Loving the Superman. Does it count as a suckerpunch though? I mean, the premise is you're toe to toe with a guy before you superman... with a liver shot you can come in from behind or the side or wherever.

If you're got the element of surprise, a straight right will do if you've got the puncing power behind it.
>> Anonymous
overhand right, unless ur a lefty
>> Anonymous
Can someone order these in amount of devastation?
Punch to Throat
Punch to Jaw
Punch to Temple
>> Anonymous
>>326079
I think I would leave out the temple, I wouldn't want a dead body on my hands.
>> Anonymous
>>326079

Depends on the power of your punch.

Temple would be pretty brutal if you hit hard enough... like deadly brutal.

Throat, not so much, I mean, they'd choke and splutter, but you'd really have to connect perfectly to take them out.

Jaw punch is probably the best bet. A good punch to the sweet spot will knock them out like a light.
>> Anonymous
>>326108

man if you punched hard enough in the throat i wouldnt doubt you could collapse it, i would rate that #1.
>> Anonymous
knock out power is something you're either born with or without. learning proper technique will help.
>> Anonymous
Overhand right is the most powerful, but somewhat difficult to pull off in a fight.

Also, aim for the jaw and try and punch *through* the person i.e.- you don't want to end your punch on connect, you wanna follow through like you would swinging a baseball bat.
>> Anonymous
Elbow to the temple if you can manage it.

Of course you're likely to kill the guy...
>> Anonymous
>>326085

You're a fucking moron.
>> Anonymous
fuck punches throw elbows
>> Anonymous
this thread is awesome.
but i don't know what a superman is, would anyone be so kind as to explain?
>> Anonymous
You jump and punch at the same time, looks retarded and doesnt even work.
Best way to knock someone out in the street depends on how good you are, wait for them to throw a punch, and since most are idiots they'll throw a swining punch, at this moment throw a straight right hand on their chin, this is a counter punch, your punch will arrive quicker then his since yours is straight.

If you dont have these reflexes, be first and just throw a right hand and then come with a left hook (just swing it if you cant throw a correct hook)
>> Anonymous
>>327075

If the punch is hard enough, the windpipe gets crushed and you will asphyxiate. You can get knocked out from a hit to the temple and since the skull is the thinnest there it will fracture if hit hard enough and skull fractures are not healthy. A jaw hit can also knock you out and if hit hard enough, it too can break but that isn't lethal.
>> Anonymous
Kick in the groin. Walk away.
>> Anonymous
Full body straight to the diaphragm. Elbow close to your side.

>>326029

A hook is just about the most inefficient and slowest way to punch. It puts all the weight on your pecs which obviously cannot follow through with the immense momentum created by the circular motion of your body.
>> Anonymous
Feign in with a jab and then hook on the upper jaw or catch on the upper temple to pull the head in the direction of the punch, this puts enormous strain on the neck and is what usually KOs peoplez, completely fucking up their balance.
>> Anonymous
I wouldn't really suggest relying on a single hit if you don't know what you're doing, but I prefer a 45-degree angle hook/upper. Look up Oscar De La Hoya

>>327768
Proper hook uses more back than pec. fail.
>> Anonymous
I always aim for the throat, anyone has the balls to talk shit it's throat punch time.

If you die then it's your own fault
>> Anonymous
>>326042

If you're sneaky you can lay a good sucker punch in to start a fight.
>> Anonymous
>>327768
The power from a hook comes first and foremost from rotating your upper body. How the fuck do you punch with your pecs?
>> Anonymous
>A hook is just about the most inefficient and slowest way to punch. It puts all the weight on your pecs which obviously cannot follow through with the immense momentum created by the circular motion of your body.

Absolute bullshit. If you've ever thrown anything remotely like a hook you'd know it has little to do with your chest and mostly to do with your back and triceps.
>> Anonymous
catch them right on the tip of the chin, you can use an uppercut, hook, whatever you want but if you hit that point on the chin it rattles the brain, try it out with just your knuckle, just tap your chin with your knuckle right on the edge. you'll rattle your brain
>> Anonymous
You idiots. They will see you throwing a hook.

Wouldnt an uppercut to jaw be the quickest if you're trying to catch him offgaurd?
>> Anonymous
HEADBUTT TO THE FACE

then a straight on the chin. it's the button.
>> Anonymous
>jab
>ko

okay i lol'd
>> Anonymous
GAZELLE PUNCH
>> Anonymous
right in the fucking ears. left or right does not matter, a bitch can knock a guy the fuck out if she clocks him in the ear, even if the punch is not strong enough the person is gonna fall like a drunkard heading out of a bar at 5 in the morning. try it fucker.
>> Anonymous
>>328362

if your gonna headbutt you have to at least get them at least 3 times right? ive heard never go for one outstanding headbutt because if you miss your fucked and its netter to do them like burst fire.
>> Anonymous
I wouldn't rely on any single punch to KO someone.

A good elbow, on the other hand...
>> Anonymous
Cross to the left/right side of the chin
>> Anonymous
Right hook to the throat or ears, or nose imo.
Followed by a good old knee in the guts.
>> Anonymous
>>328408here
>>328384
I've knocked my 130kg, 6'2 father flat with a punch to the side of his head ^_^
i'm 5'11 and 80kg, lol
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>>328401
Yep. Torque that brain around and they're down like a newborn.
>> Norris
Back and tricpes in a hook? You must be smoking. A solid hook is basicaly just rotation, comming from the stomachmuscles (the obliques or some other strange stuff).
>> Anonymous
>>328562
legs and hips retard

Any blow that causes the head to rotate is the knockout blow. other strikes will hurt a lot more but to cause enough pain to someone to knock them out is really difficult. Striking hte chin at just below a perpendicular angle to the face is what knocks people out.
>> Anonymous
The hips aren't moving by their own, they're moved by the legs. But yeah, legs are used for body rotation, though in the case of a suckerpunch, I'd say less legs and more quick upperbody torque.
>> Anonymous
>spinning backfist
lol, no.

>the balls
very yes
>> Anonymous
Just punch them as hard as you can in the stomach, has never failed.
>> Anonymous
How about sucker punching the guy from behind when he's not looking, preferredly with a big haymaker.
>> Anonymous
fuck punching:

the headbutt is so underrated no one expects it, and it can be deadly.
>> Anonymous
fuck punching:

the flying sidekick is so underrated no one expects it, and it can be deadly.
>> Anonymous
>>328322
>>328349

That's correct, but what muscle holds the hooked arm in place during impact? It sure isn't the ones that execute the rotation. If your arm isn't rigid during impact it'll just be pushed back, meaning only a fraction of that immense power created by the rotation is delivered. So your arm should be rigid in order to make the hook an efficient punch, but the pecs which act against the arm being pushed back are utterly weak compared to the core of your body which creates the rotation. So, there is no way you can deliver a reasonable portion of that rotation making the hook a highly wasteful punch.

The strongest punch is a straight where your own body is physically behind your punch making it possible to deliver the highest percentage of your entire body's momentum.
>> Anonymous
>>329268

True - look at all the heart punches from the history of boxing. If you can get through their guard, the strongest punch is where you lock your elbow, and have all your body weight behind it.
>> Anonymous
>>329268
It doesn't really matter if you "waste" some of that energy along the way, it still has a shitload of power. Also, the strongest way to through a straight is by whipping it in, making it a semi-hook. Russians do this. Plus, hitting the side of the jaw, behind the ear, temple, or liver is only possible with hooks - making it the perfect knock out punch.
>> Anonymous
>>329275
Throw, even. In b4 l2 spell. English is not my first language.
>> Anonymous
just kick ze nuts, always works, with wimminz too lol
>> Anonymous
a properly thrown hook also has your body weight behind it. if your arm gets pushed back that much when throwing hooks, you either got some weak ass pecs or can't box. a head isnt nearly heavy enough for your arm to get pushed back, and when going to the body, where there is more mass, you've got liver, kidneys and floating ribs that will crumble under the power of a properly thrown hook.
>> Anonymous
>>326079

Jaw for KOs. Dont worry about throat, it is actually kind of hard to punch someone in the throat, but if the guy has his chin way up, then yeah punch him in the throat.
>> Anonymous
>>329275

Yes, it has enough power but it is wasteful and that's what counts. With a straight you can deliver even more impact. You don't have to aim anywhere special, just the diaphragm, for example, would be sufficient. And if your aiming for weak points, you can just forget about using any power, just aim for the very weakest point. And when it comes to those weak points in the head, you don't even need the the power of a hook. You overestimate the toughness of the head. The necessary impact for knocking someone out with hit to the jaw, for example, is quite small. You don't need to try to create any more power than you would get when trying to simply do it as fast as possible. A palm fits snugly on the jaw, a quick jab with it is enough.
>> Anonymous
>>329289
Wasteful how? Forget about power? Are you shitting me? Have you ever been in a fight, or are you just a self taught fight theorist? Being able to hit hard is the single most important thing in a situation where you have to fight. If you also know where to hit, that makes it even better.

I agree with Geoff Thompson on this matter. A properly thrown hook is as untelegrafed as they come, especially from a "fence", with a lot of power behind it.

Also, first you say that the hook is worthless due to weak pecs, and now you say "you don't need the power of a hook" for weak parts of the head? (also, as previously stated, it's with hooks you hit all those parts, aside from the nose).
>> Anonymous
muay thai clinch + knee to the face = good night
>> Anonymous
Keep your shoulders down, keep your arms in tight. Don't reach with your arms, press in close and fast and let em have it. If they try to get away loose a simple front kick on the knee, groin, or stomach. If they try to grab hold of you you'll want to do one a of a few things.

Throw a dirty shot and pull back, swipe their reaching arm and throw everything you got into their face while you've got one hand out of the way, or if you've got the advantage in grappling use it to hold and hit, no submission crap.

As for sucker punching, simple and straight with your good hand. Practise in the mirror and try to keep from leading to it, make sure you don't twitch or adjust or anything that would give it away. It doesn't need to be a haymaker when they are off guard, hit them solid when they don't have their teeth clenched and you'll probably fuck up their jaw badly enough they won't be doing much fighting.

Oh yah, Keep your jaw clenched and tight. Don't bother talking, don't lock eyes, ext.
>> Anonymous
>>329334

You use a hooking motion, yes, but you don't need to make it powerful only as fast as possible. This is no longer a hook in the sense of rotating with maximum force and delivering a fraction of that momentum, it's something more functional. Obviously, if you miss the weak point it won't be effective, but that is solved with training accuracy, which is a skill that lasts long after your body's potential fitness starts to drop. A hook with reasonable impact (enough to not require precise aiming at weak points, relying on the raw shock of impact) requires ridiculous amounts of strength, something that will begin to deteriorate before you even reach 30. You cannot continue to improve such an attack for your entire life, it's not a viable technique for maintaining fighting skill in the long years to come.
>> Anonymous
>>329368
You don't need much more "strength" to land a powerful hook than a straight punch. There's no real reason to exclude the hook from your repertoire at an advanced age, especially not if you keep training.
>> Anonymous
>>328562
>>328562

ITS ALL IN THE ASS BABY!

You use legs and hips to throw a good hook. Also core muscles.
>> Anonymous
Perfect KO sucker punch?

A hard right, slight hook but thrown straight, aim between the side of their chin and their jaw bone.

Either that or STRAIGHT at their chin, but it's harder to pull off.
>> Anonymous
>>329576
I agree. Also, fuck sucker punching. Go for the plan "whoop dat ass."