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Anonymous
Diet fucking soda, /fit/.

I know it's not exactly food for you, and it has all them chemicals and crap in it, so overall you're just better off drinking water.

But by the same toke, while it isn't good for you, it doesn't actually hinder weight loss at all right?
>> Anonymous
Shitsux. Look at the ingredients you disgusting whore.
>> Anonymous
It won't kill you to have one every now and then.

Just try to stick to water. Your body will thank you.
>> Anonymous
If I'm not mistaken diet sodas have 8 calories per 100 ml which means a bottle a day is only 40 extra calories. Doesn't sound like much of a hinder to me.
>> Anonymous
>>443766
Listen here nigger, I know there's shit ingredients in it and its unhealthy for that reason, but my question was will it hinder weight loss or not?
>> Anonymous
>>443776
yes you fat fucking pile of shit
>> Anonymous
>>443782
Now you explain why it will hinder weight loss, you scrawny sack of dicks.
>> Anonymous
YES. IT WILL.

You cannot drink that stuff and expect to lose weight. It will not happen.
>> Anonymous
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

WATER AND UNSWEETENED TEA

3 SECONDS TILL ATOMIC RAGE
>> Anonymous
>>443785
Figure it out. Use your head. Do some research.
>> Anonymous
wahhhhhhh im op and i like soda wahhhhhhh im too weak to give up waaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>> Anonymous
>>443787
But I don't understand....

What element of the drink will stop weight loss?
>> Anonymous
>>443800

Notice that no one can actually answer this?

Actually though, some have argued that artificial sweeteners send confusing signals to your brain, since your sweet receptors are telling your body you're consuming calories. I don't know exactly how this works, but this is the basis of some arguments.
>> Anonymous
>>443800

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080210183902.htm
>> Anonymous
http://www.peertrainer.com/LoungeCommunityThread.aspx?ForumID=1&ThreadID=26336

lrn2google
>> Anonymous
>>443800
I don't think anyone here actually knows or they would have told you. What they and I know for sure is that whatever it is, it will hinder weightloss. Think about it in the way that you know fast food is bad, but you don't know the exact chemicals they put in the food to make it that way.

Hopefully after I read the book Fast Food Nation I'll be more informed.
>> Anonymous
I've read the book published by Atkin's a few years ago. I believe he stated that there is a part of the population that reacts to diet soda / artificial sweeteners the same way they would with regular sweetener. That is, there is an insulin release. Now that I think about it, I think Lyle McDonald said similar in his Ketogenic Diet book.

It is then surmised that it is not eaten fat that makes you fat but the insulin process converting to fat. Sorry, I am not a biochem - but I think I boiled down the summary well.

I stay away from diet soda only because I am trying my best to restrict chemicals from coming into my body whenever I have control of doing so. The sodium plays into that equation somewhat too, but there's not a huge amount I guess...

It sounds like you like diet soda a lot. Try weaning yourself a bit at a time. You are right, there are worse things, but just the same, there are better things than diet soda.

Good luck
>> Anonymous
>>443803
>>443804
>>443801
Very interesting, even while it doesn't appear to be set in stone that it inhibits weight loss, I think I've read enough to convince me to stop drinking it.

No more soda for me!

Water and Unsweetened Tea here I come.
>> Anonymous
>>443811

In order to lose body fat you must control your insulin sensitivity, the more resistant you are the less chance you will have to burning ketones for energy. IF you are constantly supplying your body with carbohydrates you will be burning them instead of fat, therefore you will have a VERY hard time losing body fat if you are constantly refueling your body with carbohydrates or any other hormonal response type macronutrient (protein as well).

Fat is the only macronutrient that doesn't trigger any hormonal responses, therefore your body can effectively burn fat (which are called ketones in your body) as the primary energy source.

The only time carbohydrates are needed as in high intensity activities, meaning your heart rate is sustained above 90% MHR for quite sometime, your body is more accustomed to using glycogen in this instance as the main energy source rather than fat. But for all intensive purposes, many people do not go above that threshold on a daily basis, therefore do not need carbohydrates in the amounts they are taking in.
>> Anonymous
Try yerba mate for a caffeinated drink. It's an amazing mental tonic, and it has all the health benefits of green tea and more. It changed my life.
>> Anonymous
>>443785
You're a fucking moron.

cardio = burning excess fat = weight loss

soft drinks = fattening shit, loaded with caffeine
>> Anonymous
>>443818
lol
>> Anonymous
>>443819
well we're talking about "diet" soft drinks, meaning no or hardly any calories.
>> Anonymous
>>443820
lulz*
>> Anonymous
>>443820

You don't even know what you're loling about.
>> Anonymous
>>443837
I you say so.
>> Anonymous
>>443831
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
>> Anonymous
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>>443831
>> Anonymous
it's fine in moderation. the caffeine is good for your metabolism as long as you're not drinking an assload of it.

it won't affect your weight loss because it has no calories.
>> Anonymous
>>443810Think about it in the way that you know fast food is bad, but you don't know the exact chemicals they put in the food to make it that way.

You mean like fat and sodium?
>> Anonymous
All right, Jesus Christ, what a fuckin bunch of shit replies. No, you will not see yourself gain weight if you drink Diet Soda. There's nothing in it besides a little sodium and artificial crap; it's not good for you, but you'll just end up pissing it out. So if you're having a bottle a day, there's really nothing to worry about.
>> Anonymous
http://www.prevention.com/cda/article/can-diet-soda-make-you-fat/cbfb8169c1903110VgnVCM20000012281ea
c____/weight.loss/strategies.for.success/diet.sabotage/?trafficsource=PVSL_2005_09_14


/threadc plz
>> Anonymous
>>443818
lolol yerba mate
>> Anonymous
I did read that people drinking diet soda where more likely to become overweight then people who drank regular soda, but it was not due to the content of the diet soda, but rather because the diet soda drinkers felt like they were saving calories so they didn't watch what they ate. Since diet soda does not have calories (and based on the above mentioned study) then it seems likely that drinking diet soda and gaining weight has more of a correlation relationship then a cause and effect relationship. It seems that any weight gain from diet soda drinkers has more to do with them then the diet soda, so it's not the diet soda that made them gain weight it was their thinking that lead them to eat more and gain weight.
>> Anonymous
http://food-facts.suite101.com/article.cfm/diet_soft_drinks
>> Anonymous
>>443860
Did you actually read this article? It says that people who drink Diet Soda sometimes gain weight by being morons in that they think, because they're doing a good thing in drinking diet crap, they can eat more in other areas. It's a mental thing...not exactly a breakthrough scientific study about the dangers of drinking Diet Soda.
>> Anonymous
SODA FUCKING RULEZ YEAHHHH1!!!! FUCK YEAH!!!
>> Anonymous
>>443897
cheaaaaa boiiii
>> Anonymous
http://www.theiflife.com/2008/10/06/are-diet-sodas-making-you-gain-weight/

INTERESTING READ
>> Anonymous
>>443938
Hmm, *listens and reads in moderate interest*.
>> Anonymous
>>443787
I switched to diet coke, and lost on that actuin alone 10 lbs in a month.
>> Awesome
>>443764

for the love of god OP (and everyone else) don't drink any sort of cola. It contains phosporic acid which creates acidity within you meaning your body has to buffer that out.. How does it do it? Calcium! Where does it get it? Your bones!

tl;dr too much cola = osteoporosis

>>443788

bah fuck unsweetened tea, tea with stevia ftw!
>> Anonymous
>>443946
Wait, you switched from normal coke to diet coke, and lost 10Ibs in a single month because of that alone, without dieting?
>> Awesome
>>443952

Probably a fatass that substituted water with soda
>> Anonymous
>>443956
who, me?
>> Anonymous
You stupid fucks dont know about caffeine and raising your BMR?This shit will make you LOSE WEIGHT, think about it, 8kj's (about 2 calories)per 250ml glass and its got a fuckton of caffeine in it.Plus all those nasty chemicals your body must digest/get rid of.Dont just spout bullshit and actually think about what your saying.
>> Awesome
>>443964

No not you, that asshole anonymous
>> Anonymous
the chemicals in the soda have been found to bring your metabolism almost to a grinding halt....sooo yeah it pretty much is the worse thing you could possibly do when your trying to lose weight
>> Anonymous
>>444036

i've never heard of that. who says?
>> Anonymous
scientifical studies say that
>> Anonymous
Diet soda tastes horrible anyway.

I don't know how anyone could drink that shit.
>> Anonymous
>>444054
Okay then, captain science. Care to provide sauce?
>> Anonymous
>>444054

"science says so"
show the study, provide proof for your claims or don't go mouthing off at all
>> Anonymous
>>444036
Oh, god. I Lol'd.
>> Advice. Anonymous
I was worried about my diet cola intake (Pepsi MAX) so I stopped drinking them for about 3 months, I was also trying to lose weight.

You know what happened?

Nothing. Not a thing. No change in weight, no cravings, nothing. It has not affected my body, it doesn't make we *want* sweeter foods, I don't eat any different bacuse of it. I still have 2-4 cans a day, and 6-8 liters of water a day. If you can control yourself, this shit can't happen.
>> Anonymous
>>444232

no change in weight for 3 months while you were trying to lose it? you're obviously not one to be talking about controlling yourself.
>> Anonymous
diet coke is fine, drink till you drop. bitches.
>> Awesome
>>444311

see

>>443947
>> Anonymous
>>443818
you know excessive yerba mate consumption is linked to esophageal cancer, right?
>> Anonymous
I've been drinking a 2 liter of diet pepsi max per day and it feels good man. I can feel the increased heart rate and it's awesome, it's like I'm doing cardio just sitting in my chair.
>> Advice. Anonymous
>>444304
I worded that shockingly.
I mean, I still lost 1-2 pounds a week, weight loss did decrease, nor did I gain weight.

>>444385
You either drink DIET pepsi or pepsi MAX
Not a mix of both, you fag.
>> Anonymous
>>444397

Diet Pepsi Max is the name of the soft drink. Look at the bottle sometime.
>> Anonymous
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>> Advice. Anonymous
>>443764
I do appologize.
In australia, there are 2 seperate drinks, diet pepsi and pepsi max
>> Anonymous
To answer the ops fucking question if diet soda has any affect on hindering weight loss science has been vague and inconclusive about it. So probably worst case yeah a little, but you'll still be strong as a horse if your diet and lifestyle is otherwise balanced.
>> Anonymous
>>443764
Who ever says this shit will make you gain weight is a retard. People think because you drink diet you can increase your portions of "real" food, thus meaning you are likely to get in the habit of eating more while drinking diet soda. I've been drinking diet soda for years and i've never randomly gained weight due to it. People are ignorant and most people on fit think they're the shit/some perfect body cunt. You can drink that shit dude, just make sure you don't increase food portions.
>> Anonymous
>>444449
pretty much has it
>> Anonymous
>>443764
It won't hinder it at all, OP.
I drink basically nothing but water, milk, tea, and diet soda. I go through it like nothing. I bulk/cut just as easily. Maybe I'm genetically gifted? I don't know. In my experience, it's just a placebo effect. There's nothing to diet soda. There are no chemicals in diet soda that are different from regular soda, except that diet soda has no calories or even sugar. Logically, it doesn't do ANYTHING to your body.
I drink it. It's fine.
>> Anonymous
>>444490
I disagree.
>> Anonymous
>>444546
OP here, even if you drink a 2liter bottle per day?
>> Anonymous
Yes you can drink diet soda. I've been doing it all my life, and i've lost like 18 pounds ever since I changed my diet, although still drinking diet soda.

HOWEVER; on some levels the shit IS bad for you, even though it may not hinder weight loss. Particularly I also think that once you're done losing weight and buffing up (if you so may choose) the caffeine has a negative effect on muscle growth (or am I wrong?). Either way, you can drink it for weight loss, but you should try to quit either way (and yes I know it's hard, i've been trying to get off this shit for years).
>> Anonymous
>>444546
>There are no chemicals in diet soda that are different from regular soda, except that diet soda has no calories or even sugar

Oh

WOW

you're dumb
>> Anonymous
>>444564
>>444564
How so, anon?
>> Anonymous
Diet soda gave my mom cancer.
>> Anonymous
>>444637
A valid statement in the eyes of some natural health care experts.
>> Anonymous
diet soda killed my dog and raped my sister.
>> Anonymous
/fit/ - Retards and Faggots
>> Anonymous
In the end just dont drink soda and you won't lose your stomach lining and shorten your lifespan ^^
>> Anonymous
Diet soda shrink my balls
>> Anonymous
If yu drink diet soda that has no calories, it will hinder your weightloss because it has no calories, but your body needs to warm it up which takes energy. Colder the soda is, more calories will burn.

BUT the amount of energy that is spent doing this is very low, so i doubt you could get actual results by this.

And imho diet soda also prevents from getting hungry, so drinking them will make you eat less.
>> Anonymous
>>445157
Wow, I don't think one point here has an ounce of truth to it.
>> newbe
Yes. Actually it does.
Artifical sweeteners, of all kinds, have been linked to weight gain. I don't know if you can post links here, but:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080210183902.htm
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/OnCall/story?id=4271246&page=1
>> Anonymous
>>443764
tl;dr all the fucking retarded comments in here.

No diet soda won't make you fat. It doesn't give you cancer. It will affect your appetite for the worse.
>> Anonymous
Speaking from personal experience here, no, it will _not_ hinder your weightloss.

And the next faggot to link a study that says diet sodas will make you obese because when you drink it you tend to eat more, will get my dick up his ear.
>> Anonymous
>>445371
I'd pay to see that.
>> Anonymous
Diet soda is fine. Even regular soda wont hinder weight loss.
>> Anonymous
>>445449
>>445449
>>445449

>Even regular soda wont hinder weight loss.

Nigger. You'd best be fucking trolling.
>> Anonymous
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Just drink club soda
>> Anonymous
fatties drinking diet soda make me rage so hard.
you' might as well wear a shirt that says >"i obviously want to lose weight but i am too fucking lazy"
>> Anonymous
>>445463
>>445471
Yeah that makes perfect sense. I'll just not drink something that I think tastes good even tough there are no calories, just to prove how manly I am.
>> Anonymous
wait has anyone mentioned insulin shock yet? I can't be arsed to read through an entire shitstorm thread
>> Anonymous
>>445478
you think diet pop tastes good?
how can people get past the horrible aftertaste.
Here's a tip: drink one soda a day. regular sugar soda. then drink water. or juice, at least the sugar there is natural not fucking corn syrup.
>> Anonymous
>>445478

you guys are all a bunch of fat fucks with your soda. seriously, drink some water. you're body is 65% water, not soda. that should tell you something.
>> Anonymous
also, soda tastes like shit. and diet is worse.
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>>445478
If you think being manly is drinking diet soda, you are beyond help
>> Anonymous
the element that will stop weight loss is ASPARTAME

go read up, one of its side effects is weight gain.

Its the cheap artificial sweetener they use to replace the sugar. Its about 200 times sweeter I think and they often use another artificial sweetener to help handle the bitter aftertaste of ASPARTAME.

It can also cause severe allergic reactions such as FUCKING DEATH. But most people are just going to get addicted or get headaches or blackouts or pretty much every single other medical issue you could think of...

years ago when my mom tried she started just literally losing consciousness at random. She would go to answer the door and SPLAT just fall over then wake up in a few seconds wondering wtf happend. It can cause seriously fucked up shit trust me.
>> Anonymous
>>445507

http://www.rense.com/general67/rum.htm
>> Anonymous
Diet soda will eat your children.
>> Anonymous
>>445529
Fucking, it will LITERALLY eat your children.
>> Anonymous
>>445504
OK, now your picture, my friend, looks simply fucking amazing.
>> Anonymous
>>445507
It's 200x sweeter, and they use 200x less of it than sugar. You'd have to be drinking an assload of it to cause any ill effects, a can a day will do OP or anyone else no harm.

Unless they're allergic of course, but if we didn't eat foods because we MIGHT be allergic, we would all starve to death.
>> Anonymous
>>445507
>the element that will stop weight loss is ASPARTAME

Well maybe I'm unique like a snowflake then, because ASPARTAME did not stop a single gram of fat disappearing from my waist when I was on a diet. In fact, ASPARTAME made the diet much more enjoyable experience.
>> anonymous
diet soda may not have the sugars that regular soda does but those artificial sugars and flavors are still really bad for you. My advice to you is to lay off the soda if your trying to lose weight. But if your a baby its all about moderation. i dont drink the stuff at all anymore its such crap. its been a few years sicne i have touched the shit , i plan to never drink it again as long as i live. You feel me?
>> Anonymous
>>445662
OP here, well I drink on average 2 liters per day?
>> Anonymous
>>445726
..Yeah that might be a bit much. Try to reduce it to a can or two a day. To help achieve this, I suggest buying it in cans.
>> Anonymous
>>445735
Ok, thanks.
>> Anonymous
>>445726
Jesus F. Christ, Jabba the Hut, 2 fucking liters.
>> Anonymous
OK FUCK YOU ALL
Even if all your arguments are right, it dosent change the fact that diet soda is infinitly better than regular soda for your health
>> Anonymous
>>445817
lots of truth in this poast
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Goddamn it you bunch of fucking retards rationalizing your soda consumption by saying "oh lawdy itz has no sugarz and it dont stopped my weight loose!"

Get off that shit before your bones turn to shit you fat fucks


"oh but anon carbonation doesn't cause bone loss bla bla bla I take it in the pooper"

The phosphoric acid does you idiot
>> Anonymous
>>445785
yeah, I know it's fucking bad.

It's basically all I drink though.
>> Anonymous
>>445863
If you don't change that shit right now, you could lose up to 10 years of your life.
>> Anonymous
>>445817
NO, FUCK YOU! SODA IS FUCKING BAD AND YOU SHOULDN'T DRINK IT, PERIOD
>> Anonymous
>>445850

I don't try to rationalize my diet soda consumption. I do it because I fucking like it and it hasn't done a single thing for me. It didn't hinder my weight loss, it doesn't hinder my muscle growth. I don't get withdrawals when laying off the stuff or any other bullshit that you TRUE & PURE FITNESS YO fags like to spout. It might turn my bones to sawdust but I bet my ass I'll be dead by then because of other reasons.
>> Anonymous
If these faggots want to consume shit that you guys think is bad for them, then fucking let them. When they fucking die, it'll just be more fucking air for you all to breathe.
>> Anonymous
>>445981

brotip: no, there won't be.
>> Anonymous
>>445981
fuck the fucking fuckers
>> Anonymous
>>443855
Fat is an exact chemical?
>> Anonymous
Oh god I love you /fit/.