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/fit/, is there a correlation between body weight and strength?

I am 5'7" and 153 lbs right now. That's up from 141, since I'm bulking up. I'm training for strength and some of my stats are:
-Dumbbell press with 75 lb. dumbbells (150 total) for 6 reps. (I have to go down to 70 the next set, 65 after that, etc.)
-Squat: 175 lbs, 6 reps (I could do heavier but I'd be sacrificing form.)
-Deadlift: 190 lbs, 6 reps.

I just don't think I should have numbers this low after 2 years of consistent training, and I thought it might be I just need more muscle mass, hence the bulking. What do you think?

pic related, it's my ultimate goal. How much do you think Jin would weigh?
>> Anonymous
Jin weights 165lbs in Tekken 3. He looks more buff, though.
>> Anonymous
>>110985
Between body weight and strength? No. You must have awesomely bad genes then.
>> Anonymous
>>110996

Idiot.

The correct answer is: somewhat. You will get bigger and heavier as your strength goes up because you need more muscle to do so, but you'll notice that a lot of power lifters aren't Ronnie Coleman's size.

Eat eat eat. I'm 170 @ 6'0" but my DL max is around 275, so it varies from person to person.
>> Anonymous
>>111009
>Idiot.

NO U
>> Anonymous
There is a fuzzy limit to how much strength a certain quantity of muscles can have.

All other things considered equal, a guy with a 44" chest will be able to press more than a guy with a 34" chest. Mr. 44" just has more pectoral muscle to work with. Why do you think those guys in World's Strongest man are almost all 300+ lbs? Granted, they're pretty damn tall, too, but they pack on muscle while still maintaining body fat % in the low teens.

And don't feel bad about those numbers. For your weight, they're nothing to sneeze at. But you gotta EAT MOAR if you want to lift more
>> Anonymous
Well, they list him at 165, but come on, he's bigger than that.

Although, his legs are pretty scrawny, but I put him at least ten pounds more than 165.

Anyhoo, at OP, you should not drop weight to do the same amount of reps, just do as many as you can with the same weight. You're lifting to get stronger, but you're dropping weight at the same time, sorta counter-productive, just lift as heavy as you can.

You are pretty small, so if you want to get to the heavier weights, you need to up your caloric intake.

Anyhoo
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This is 5'6" 155.

Sean Sherk MMA fighter.

So around there.
>> Anonymous
Is there actually a minimum limit on the 155 weight class? I'm sure if you're fast and precise with your striking, you could manage even if you aren't as heavy.
>> Anonymous
>>111083

hmmm, so you're saying that when training for strength, it's more important to stick with the weight than to stick with the reps? (4-6 in my case)
>> Anonymous
>>111088

sean sherk cuts from 170 to make the 155 weight limit.
>> Anonymous
>>111111

holy shit
>> Anonymous
>>111111

He probably walks a little bit above 170, maybe 175-ish?

Most guys in those weight divisions cut 15-20 pounds (mostly water weight the day of the weigh-ins, but very unhealthy). Nobody is really at weight class they're supposed to be, they cut the day of the weigh-ins and fightday (the next day) they regain the 15-20 pounds.

Also, Sean Sherk had the help of the Vitamin S, tainted supplements or not.
>> Anonymous
So how long does it take him to cut the 15-20 lbs? A few weeks?
>> Anonymous
>>111089

155 weight class is 145-155, but nobody is going to fight weighing the minimum. I weigh 145 and could technically fight in the 155 weight class, but it'd be fighting huge guys that are almost 30 pounds bigger than me.

Therefore it'd be best to drop to cut to the 135 weight class (which the UFC doesn't have, but WEC does). If I fight at my "natural" weight class (featherweight/ 135-145) there'll stil be guys cutting from about 160/165 to make 145.

Yeah, people should just come in at their natural weight, but people are gonna cut weight no matter what, even if weigh-ins are the same day (a couple of collegiate wrestlers died this way).
>> Anonymous
>>111138

You usually go through strict dieting about two weeks to a month before the match, depending on how much weight you're going to cut. I'm not sure how Sherk does it, but he probably diets the month leading to the fight and sheds the remainder off in the sauna.

I had to cut from 145 to 135 in a week, and I did it by lowering my carb intake and eating less foods that will retain water, all the while drinking shit loads of water (about two gallons every day the week leading up to the fight). You wanna eat stuff high in fiber, low in carbs, and protein. Most of the time I would eat Brocolli and fish.

You should lose a couple of pounds this way just by eating right. But you'll probably still need to shed water weight, which is why you need to drink tons of water. The extra water intake triggers hormones in your body that increase sweat and urination, so it's less difficult to shed weight in the sauna.

I fucking hate the sauna so i prefer to go on a diet before the fight. You could potentially just lose ten pounds of water weight in one and a half hour in the sauna, but fuck doing push ups/jumping jacks in a sauna while spitting in cups (it can get that bad).

If you don't cut weight right you're going to fuck yourself over when over exerting yourself to cut those extra pounds before wiegh-ins.