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When to start a weight routine Anonymous
/fit/,

I've heard varying things about when you should start lifting weights as part of a weight loss routine.

I've heard that you should wait until you've lost most your weight before you start lifting.

However, I've also heard you should start lifting ASAP in order to lose weight faster.

Which is better?

I don't care what the number on the scale reads. I'm not hung up on reaching 180. If I think I look fine at 200, that's ok. If I'm 200 and toned, that's ok. If I'm 180 and thin, that's also fine.

Obviously, muscle weighs more than fat. So, should I start lifting now, or weight till I've dropped another 80 pounds?
>> Hammerknife !7ITukp3Pj2
Lifting now accelerates fat loss and makes you look better, faster. Do it.
>> Anonymous
>>36493

what are your views on creatine, then?
>> Hammerknife !7ITukp3Pj2
>>36496

I wish they made creatine cupcakes, so I could combine two guilty pleasures.
>> ThirdNipz !aNhP/uP6gs
>>36498
>>36496

What exactly is creatine anyway? I have some shit in my pantry, drink mix that is a "high performance creatine transport"
>> Anonymous
>>36512

supposed to help build bulk when lifting
>> ThirdNipz !aNhP/uP6gs
>>36530

D: awesome!
>> Anonymous
>>36538

there are supposedly serious side affects. I haven't really done enough research to say for certain, though.
>> Anonymous
le bump
>> Anonymous
Depends completely on what you want. If you wish for a toned, low % body fat physique, you'll have to hit the diet mixed with cardio every day(if you are fat, then the cardio should be after you wake up and before you eat anything).

If you want to be big then it is okay to focus more on lifting weights, because, in my opinion, you can lose weight solely by lifting hard and following a diet, without any cardio that is.

What I would give as advice is not to focus on the scale too much. A mirror is all you need to watch progress. You only need a scale if you want to focus on weightlifting, to see how do your max weights compare to your body weight.

>>36568

You can't take creatine as you would take whey or vitamin C, that is, whenever you want and as much as you want. You have to have exact predetermined amounts and know when to take it. If you take it carefully, you won't have side effects, but there can be complications if you're not cautious.
>> Anonymous
>>36578

I've been dieting and doing cardio. However, you did raise a very good point. I've always tried to do cardio in the morning before I eat, but I always assumed my muscles wouldn't be warmed up enough compared to if I did cardio in the evening.

My ideal end result is toned, low body fat. I'm 22 years old and 270 pounds, down from 320 (woohoo diet).

Ideally, I'd like to be trim and toned. I don't want massive arms and legs, capable of lifting 300 pounds for short amounts of time. Carrying 50 pounds for a couple of hours though, (ie hiking and camping) is far more appealing.
>> Anonymous
>>36530
>>36546
Wrong and wrong. Creatine gives your muscles more energy so you can lift more and do more reps, thus stressing the muscles more, which allows for them to be built more.

Secondly, there are no known serious side effects. Anyone with with liver problems should not take it. Other than that, just make sure you're hydrated and there should be no problems.

Just look at the Wikipedia page and it will tell you all you need to know.
>> Anonymous
>>36585
>>36578
Regaurding the morning (not op), I keep hearing that too much muscle strain before eating will burn your muscle to add the kindling to your fat burning (muscle being kindling/bits of paper, fat being the logs). My jog routine is a series of hills and flats, wouldn't jogging in the morning when heavy put strain on your legs that will destroy your performance/size?

I'v been tending to eat a peice of toast and scoff down some chicken, then waiting for it to fully be absorbed i tend to eat a few slices of ham or whatever low fat protein i have available so in the later stages of the jog i tend to get that little bit of energy that lets me go a few hundred extra meters than if i diddn't eat the ham.
>> Anonymous
just fucking lift. it burns calories, there's no way it could hurt.
>> Anonymous
>>36578
fuck off, you don't know what you're talking about
>> Kanader
Your first problem is that you are worried about weight. You should be concerned with BODY FAT.

Overall fitness should be your primary goal. This incorporates several factors, amongst which is strength. There is no better time to start building strength than now. Weightlifting is not the optimal route to fat loss, but cardio is. Also, if weight is your metric, you will be confused and disappointed when you start to gain weight after building strength. Even if ever cc of fat was replaced by rippling man muscles, your would have a significant increase in weight.

tl;dr Start lifting now, and lose fat not weight.
>> Anonymous
>>36620

Agreed. I've been chasing a number too long and it's kinda become the default goal.

And I have noticed that although the scale has been reading the same, my legs are more toned and stronger (from biking). Even if I use no other gauge of fat loss, I can tell I've lost fat because my pants are looser and my watch is, as well
>> Anonymous
>>36598

you trust your health to Wikipedia? I smell a troll
>> Anonymous
>>36585
You don't need to have warmed up muscles for cardio at all, I never heard of someone wanting to warm up for cardio. Some people like to do 1 hour of cardio then go straight to lifting weights which is very wrong.

Do cardio after you wake up, and then do weight exercises ideally 8 hours after that. Make sure your body is fully rested and able to focus on lifting weights.

Cardio must be done every day in the week while weights should be done 3 or more times per week.

I would recommend low weights + high reps + gradual increase, the high rep exhaustion will build your muscles since they have most likely atrophied from cardio only on such a weight + it will provide additional exertion resulting in more fat loss.

This of course must be accompanied by a strict low-carbs diet. I'll take it you know a thing or two about dieting since you said you lost 25kgs, but when you start lifting weights you will have to have a specific diet with enough protein and meals during the day.

Speaking of which, don't wait for a single day to start with weight training. I'll put it this way: if you want to have a well defined body in 4 years, then do cardio only for the first two years and then start with lifting weights. If you want the same body in 2 years, combine cardio and weights.
>> Anonymous
>>36604
That will only happen if you do cardio for too long. 40-50 minutes are enough. During those 40-50 minutes you will burn out food in your stomach, if you have an empty stomach you'll burn out fat, and after around 50 minutes you'll start burning muscle.
>> Anonymous
>>36655

The diet I'm on isn't necessarily low carb, given that fruits are included, but there is no bread or pasta and very few carb vegetables.

I did atkins for a while and lost about 80 pounds, but my aunt did the diet I'm on now and lost her goal weight and has kept it off.
>> Anonymous
What about adding an additional hour of cardio into my day?

Cardio in the morning, weights in early evening, cardio after weights, or around 9 at night?
>> Anonymous
>>36663
If you want/need condition, why not, but if you want to build muscles, rather spend the extra hours on sleeping(9-10 hours of sleep is best for muscle growth).

You won't lose the same amount of fat in your second cardio hour than you did during the first.
>> Anonymous
>>36676

why wouldn't I lose the same amount?
>> Kanader
>>36658
You can't seriously believe the human body works like this?