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Anonymous
Hey /fit/

When I work out on upper body machines, no matter what it says it works (deltoids, trapezoids, pectorals), it always only feels like my biceps are being worked, and I never feel a burn, or very much soreness in my back or chest.

I was wondering what is going on.

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>> Anonymous
You're using machines like a bitch.

Use freeweights, as they are real exercises.
>> Anonymous
does anyone have real advice or do I have to listen to macho faggot preaching?
>> Anonymous
>>115534

Uhhh?

I gave you good advice, get off the machines, and use free weights. They're a lot harder to do, and also workt he stabalizing muscles. Machines do nothign except build non-functional muscle. Plus they're easy.

Tough break being an idiot though, have fun being a weak bitch on machines.
>> Anonymous
Free weights really are better. They work more muscle groups(such as support muscles), whereas machines are pretty specific in the area they're working.
>> Anonymous
fine give me some trap, delt, and lat exercises
>> Anonymous
also some pec exercises besides benchpressing
>> Anonymous
Why besides benchpressing? It's basically the best exercise you can do for chest.

Anyhoo, there are tons of shit you can do with free weights. Lat raises, rows, shoulder press...
>> Anonymous
thanks guys

help appreciated
>> Anonymous
ehhh. free weights are really better than machines, but if you're just starting the machines do give you a direction if you don't really know what you're doing. plus you don't have to worry about flailing around with weights and looking like a tard if you're self conscious and just starting out. but yeah, free weights with the proper exercises are better for the reasons everyone's given.

that being said. it's easy to have bad form doing either.
most machines have some basic instructions, but sometimes they're vague. for chest exercises really the key is, make sure the seat and handles are at the right height for you, and sit up straight. when I was first using various chest machines I kept working out the wrong muscles and being weirdly sore because I was doing things like leaning into the weight, arching my back, bracing my feet against the floor, all bad.

my advice, if you do wanna use a machine. take the time to sit down, grab the handles and kinda feel it out, and you should be able to tell when you're pulling with your chest instead of your arms. it helps if you kind of set your shoulders back and try to push your shoulder blades towards each other on the pull back and stick out your chest without arching your back on the push. that's kind of a bad way to describe it, but it's something you have to feel for yourself. the hardest part really is when you start to reach fatigue, your body automatically wants to start using other muscles to take over, and you have to resist that.