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Running Shoes? Anonymous
What running shoes do the runners here on /fit/ wear?

I run in Mizuno Nirvana 4's (pic related) They are ugly as sin, but comfy as hell.

Lately out on the trails I have been seeing a bunch of Shox, and tbh, Shox are not even real running shoes. They suck. If you run in them, go to a running store and get a real pair of shoes.
>> Anonymous
I got some el cheapo ones from Target. Works for me. :)
>> Anonymous
>>60097
I work in a running store, and from my point of view, shoes do make a huge, huge difference. I'm not saying go drain 135 into a high end pair, but you can get a lot of last year's shoes for like 50 bucks, and you will be amazed at how much of a difference it makes..
>> Anonymous
and since I am here and bored, I will answer any questions anyone has for me. I am a TOTAL shoe geek, so I know quite a bit about these things.
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>>60105
what's a cheap pair of decent running shoes?
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>>60103
Sweet didn't know they sold older shoes for $50 I should check that out I remember my dad bought me good running shoes, running felt very effortless.
>> Anonymous
Nike Free or Puma Cells.

Feels like wearing nothing at all, NOTHING AT ALL!
>> Anonymous
>>60108
It really depends on your foot type. In general theres 2 types of runners- pronators who roll their feet inwards when they run, and neutral runners, which have a fairly normal stride. Theres supernators (sp?) that roll their feet outward, but they are rare, and they are pretty much screwed on their shoe selection.

A rough way to tell what kind of foot type you are is to take your shoes off and stand flat. Look at where your outside ankle bone is in line with the bottom of your foot, easiest way is to take a credit card or piece of paper and drag it along the floor. If your ankle bone is even with the bottom of your foot, you tend to be neutral, but if your ankle bone is further in, you tend to pronate. This is a rough estimate, and the best way to tell would be to find a running store with people that can help you even more though.
>> Anonymous
Just realized I didn't really answer your question. Typically the $90-95 shoes are the best ones to roll with, any less you feel the difference, any more and you don't really see a HUGE difference.

For neutral feet, I would suggest trying on Mizuno Wave Riders, brooks glycerin, and asics Cumulus. Another one which is slightly harder to find is called an Asics Platinum. These are only sold at Dick's sporting goods, but they are pretty much re-releases of last year's version of the Asics Nimbus, which is their $120 shoe. Personally I <3 mizuno's, so thats really what I suggest.

For a control shoe, go with a mizuno inspire, brooks adrenaline, or asics 2130. I suggest trying on a whole lot of different shoes and seeing which brand fits you best.

If you want cheap ones, find what you like, and search for last year's version. With the major brands, noone has really changed their shoes from last year to this year, so you will be getting nearly the same thing. I know we have old mizunos for $70 right now, which is pretty good. If you really search, sometimes DSW's or shoe carnivals or places like that have runs of old runners.

>>60115
You sir are a masochist. Unless you are running on grass, or maybe a dirt trail, those shoes will absolutely tear the shit out of your feet after a mile. They aren't made to handle pavement. I have had soooo many people come in with frees and tell me they were ripping them up just because they didn't realize what they were for.
>> Anonymous
I almost always buy New Balance, because they run super wide, and my feet are like fucking T-bones.

My guide for buying shoes is usually price, followed by aesthetics. I try not to skimp, since I don't want really shitty shoes, but I also don't feel like paying some ludicrous amount of money for shoes that I only wear an hour a day. I usually spend like $80 on the shoes, and $10 for better insoles, since I run on concrete sidewalks.
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>>60125
Be careful with new balance and nike. They both aren't nearly what they used to be. If you go to running stores, most carry many brands in a wide, and several other brands like Mizuno and Asics already have a pretty wide toe bed. New balance makes very few decent shoes, and a lot of crap, so its hard to find a good one. 768s are one of the few I could actually recommend, other than that the stuff under $100 really sucks.

The biggest peeve I have is when customers base their choice on money or looks. You said it yourself, you wear them an hour a day. What do the looks matter? Get a pair that are comfortable to you, that above all should hold importance.
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has anyone tried Nike Free running shoes? They are designed to use your natural foot more, with less reliance on the actual shoe. I enjoy running barefoot indoors and on my treadmill, but Im not about to go and do that shit outdoors and end up with aids. Ive been wondering about Nike Frees to use to help with more natural foot running.

http://www.nike.com/nikefree/usa/index.jhtml?ref=http://www.nike.com/nikefree
is their website if youve never heard of Frees
>> Anonymous
>>60135
Frees do help you with foot strength if you use em correctly. If you have a self-cushioning teadmill, or run on some grass / a soft track with them, they are good shoes. Just be careful, because if you decide to start running on pavement or other hard surfaces, you will tear the hell out of your feet.
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>>60130

Me again. Point taken as far as NB and Nike go, although when my parents were still paying for my shit, I used to always get those grey 992's, which felt like fucking clouds.
I have a pair of Aasics Gel 1120's right now, that I got at sports authority. They're kind of shitty, but I had just bought a pair of New balance for ~$100, and I wore a pretty large hole in the toe before they were through with their life cycle, so I had to skimp.

On the aesthetics thing, I should clarify that it's not really a "that one looks cool, I'll buy that, it's more of a "these shoes are all in my price range and feel fine, which looks the least ridiculous". Also, it's tough to even know what the difference in shoes is, other than "more expensive is usually better".
I went to a store that was specifically for runners in Dallas, and it was like dealing with a fucking car salesman. The only thing they were interested in was putting me in a $150 pair of shoes.

Pic related, it's me and one of my foot covers.
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>>60094
i wear a cheap pair of adias running shoes that I got way way way on sale at the outlet store. BUT, they suck for running. My feet are more comfortable in my skate shoes when running. But I still wear them when i run and go to the gym.
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>>60148
Yeah, some of the shops run off of commission, which really can be a bitch sometimes when you don't have the cash for that shit. 1120's are decent, but for the extra 10 bucks, 2120s (or 2130s for this year) are a whole ton better. 992's are very soft, but they are for a pretty specific foot type of pronating pretty hard, and they weigh quite a bit.

The tier down running shoes (asics 1120's, brooks switch, mizuno nexus) are decent shoes for beginners, but if you are putting more than 3 miles at a time, the step ups are only like 10 -15 bucks more, and are 2x as comfortable.

My suggestion to really find your foot type is when you go to the running shop, make them explain it to you, and even if you think it makes you sound cheap, ask him what you would wear in the 90ish dollar range. If you really can't spend a whole ton, find the shoe he suggests in that range, find last years model, and call around to see if you can find it.
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>>60105
Hi shoes geek. I have some nike air pegasus I bought two or three years ago. Right now I am running +/- 30 km a week. When should I replace my shoes ? How do I know I have to replace them ?
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>>60161
The 992's are somewhat clunky, but the only real problem I had with them was that your foot would get really hot inside, if that makes any sense; they didn't breathe at all.

On a side note, I almost forgot to ask; have you heard anything about LOCO shoes? I saw a runners magazine at the dentists office one time, and there was an ad for them in there. The design was pretty simplistic, and the ad copy was intriguing, but I don't remember what exactly it said.
>> Anonymous
>>60165
Good question, this is something I see a lot of people confused about.

The first thing to get shot on any running shoe is the midsole foam, the white foam on the bottom of the shoe. Once it gets impacted, the shoes lose almost all of their spring, and any good qualities they have about them.

The easiest way to tell is that your knees / lower back start to hurt a bit earlier than normal. This means you went too long, and need a new pair.

How long this takes depends mostly on 2 things: how much you weigh, and what surfaces you are running on. Heavier people should be replacing their shoes roughly every 400 miles (650 km), and the lighter you get, the longer your shoes will last. Normally they won't last any longer than 500 miles (800 km) though. If you are running on pavement, the millage will go down quite a bit, too.

General rule of thumb is 6 months to replace your shoes if you are too lazy to count your miles. 2 or 3 years is quite a long time to be keeping your shoes, and I promise you will feel a huge difference when you start running in some new shoes.
>> Anonymous
will i hurt my feet if i run in shoes that aren't specifically designed for running? i mean, they are comfortable for walking and wearing..

these are my shoes, sketchers "sports fusion" it says on the box: http://catalog.skechers.com/s-1234567/displayProductList/M/5/0/false/popular/28276.shtml

i really dont have more money to blow on some shoes just for running.. I am thinking about using them for 30 minute HIIT running sessions
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>>60175
yeah 992's are mostly suede. TBH I don't really think they were designed to be real running shoes, more of just a super comfy wear around kind of shoe. They are kind of heavy, and don't breathe well, but I do own a pair just to wear around when I want something comfy.

I don't know much about those loco shoes, ill do some looking into them right now. I have heard a few things, but all of it is third hand information so ill stay quiet.

I will say that I have seen under armor's running shoes that are coming out in a few months, and they are god awful. Steer clear of that crap, at least for a generation or two.
>> Anonymous
>>60177
Thanks. I'll take a look at the shoes' conditions when I am back home then. But it looks like I am going to have to spend some money on this. I thought it could last a little bit longer :(
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>>60178
I'd be surprised if your feet didn't fall off from running in those. You would be infinitely better off getting a cheap $40 pair of runners than to run in something like that. A personal point of view is that if you are going to be doing any sort of running, its worth spending the money for a decent pair of shoes, but even a super cheap pair of runners would be better than those sketchers.

Your feet aren't the only thing that gets hurt if you run in crappy shoes. Your ankles, knees, hips, and lower back take quite a beating when you are running. Getting a good pair of shoes helps with it quite a bit, although not completely.
>> Anonymous
What do you think about those brown Kswiss shoes?
I heard they are pretty comfy.
>> Anonymous
Everything I have read about the loco's seems like it is a super basic shoe. No frills, nothing special, straight midsole foam, sole, and upper. Some people are liking the basic-ness of the shoe, but it doesn't look like its anything really all that special. I won't completely rule them out until I get my hands on a pair and see a tear down of them, though.
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>>60190
gotta be a bit more specific, kswiss makes a lot of shoes. They do make a few runners, but they suck pretty badly.
>> Anonymous
The Kswiss Classic Originals. Are they really that comfy?
>> Anonymous
>>60195
I've got 2 pairs of k swiss's, I think they are pretty comfy. Wear them to bars and all that. I wouldn't run in em to save my life though.
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>>60197
Alrighty, all I needed to know. I thought I could replace my Converses with something thats a little easier to run in, when I'm not in my running shoes
>> Anonymous
>>60191

Fair enough, I'm all about simplicity. Thanks for the excellent thread.
>> Anonymous
I just got bored and counted the shoes I have, because I was wondering myself. I have 48 pairs of shoes. 6 that I would run in on any given day (1 that I really do run in), 20 more that are technically running shoes but I only wear around for comfort / looks, 4 dress shoes, 6 jordans, 2 other basketball shoes, 6 dressy casuals, 2 sandals, and 2 hikers.

I am such a woman with my shoes, I could go a month and a half and not wear the same shoes twice.
>> Anonymous
starbury's...
15 dollar + light weight + decent padding = awesome for poor college student runner
>> Anonymous
>>60204
btw, i mean the starbury running shoe not the basketball shoe
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>>60205
I didn't even know he had a runner, this i need to learn about
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>>60207
i believe it's called the starbury cyclone... properly speaking it's a sprint shoe... but pop an extra insole in and remember not to pronate and you're golden
>> Anonymous
>>60204

When I first heard about the Starbury thing in the newspaper, I was pretty psyched about the philosophy, but I haven't heard if they're any good or not.
>> Anonymous
I am off to bed, if anyone has a question post it, ill look this thread up when i wake up.

I looked up the starbury trex, and I guess if you don't want to spend more than 20 bucks on a shoe, its the best option to get. I won't bash it till I get a pair on my feet and go for a jog, but i'm not really expecting much.
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>>60215
my lil bro is an underage b& basketball player and he loves the b-ball shoes...

i'm a rower, runner, traceur, and martial artist, so it's nice that one shoe can do all of these
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>>60218
don't expect much, but it's really good for the price and they are sturdy little bastards
>> Anonymous
Where would I go about to buy Starburys? Any major stores sell them?
>> Anonymous
>>60218
holy crap just looked at there web site... cyclone is dead...

when i bought mine there were only two varieties, the sprint shoe and the b-ball shoe
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>>60219
If you do all of that in a starbury, more power to you. The issue with having one shoe to do all of that is you lose a lot of qualities that makes each shoe for those good.

Martial arts shoes tend to be really low lying, flexible and responsive. Running shoes are too high up for that kind of thing. Also the martial arts shoes tend to have more lateral support in them for moving left and right, whereas a running shoe has almost nothing there, so you tear right through it. Same goes for basketball and tennis.
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>>60224
those four sports respectively require mainly one thing each: light, padded, grip, thin sole on lateral edge...

starbury cyclone had all of these...

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>> Anonymous
I am back, if anyone has any questions about running shoes I will gladly answer them
>> Anonymous
Hi Mr. Shoes.

I run 15-20 miles per week on concrete in Brooks Mogos. This also happened with previous shoes, but sometimes the tips of my toes get numb/tingly after I run. Do I need to get different shoes next time or this an artifact of so much time on concrete?

Also, fwiw, my other shoes are usually heels or ballerina flats with no arch support and I walk probably 3-4 miles a day in these.
>> Anonymous
I average about 40+ miles a week and I'm in love with Nike Pegs.

Best fitting, most comfortable shoe I've had in a long time. Used to be a massive fan of Saucony, and the Trigon 3 was great, but the Air pegs just rock.
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>>60955
my apologies, I thought this thread was dead. You need to be a bit more specific about the shoe you run in, MoGo is the midsole foam brooks uses (the white foam on the bottom of the shoe) Your shoes are either ill fitting or the wrong type for you, you shouldn't be numb.

Before you run, you should have about a thumbs width in the front of your shoes, maybe a touch less, but not much less. If you try to cram your foot into the shoes like I see countless women do, you will hurt yourself, it can cause numbness and even tear off toenails.

With brooks, to see the name, it is normally written on the tongue of the shoe. My best guess for now is that you have a pair of shoes that are too small for you.
>> Anonymous
Asics
>> Anonymous
I use what's pictured in the OP, except in blue.