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Goddamnit /fit/, I'm an idiot.

Been doing Starting Strength for 5 months all wrong. I've been adding weight on a weekly progression (+ 5 pounds every Monday), and just found out you're supposed to add weight on a workout-to-workout progression.
>> Anonymous
Cool story bro.
>> Anonymous
I disagree, week to week progression is actually better, slow and steady wins the race. Increasing the weight every workout like Rippetoe recommends is going to burn you out quickly.
>> Anonymous
>>454209
the POINT of it is to gain strength quickly

what you do after gains stop is up to you
>> Anonymous
>>454220

What's better, making awesome gains for 2 months and slamming into a wall for the 3rd time, or making consistent gains for 7 months without burning out? The first option forces you into another program, the second option allows you to stay in beginner mode a lot longer.
>> Anonymous
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>>454209

Slow and steady wins the race, unless it's a real race.

Not increasing the weight every workout means that you make progress at about 1/3 the speed of someone who follows the correct programming. Yes "burnout" or "stalling" does occur (not quickly assuming you have proper rest and nutrition) and at that point you deload the lift by about 15% and continue adding weight every workout, which will allow you to continue making strength gains until the next plateau.

You don't understand the Starting Strength program, or novice strength training in general, and should probably refrain from making comments about them.
>> Anonymous
>>454209

That's exactly what happened to me :(
>> Anonymous
>>454238

First off, weekly periodization is what you are suggesting by adding weight every week, which is the hallmark of a basic intermediate program. That right there shows that you don't understand anything and should shut the fuck up.

Second, why would you want stay in "beginner mode" any longer than you have to? By most practical definitions, you stop being a beginner when you can no longer make workout to workout progress. This point is reached when a trainee is strong enough that he cannot continue to add weight every workout without exceeding his recovery capacity. Ideally you want to make linear progress for as long as you can, but intentionally slowing your progress for the sake of being able to stay on a beginner program is retarded.
>> Anonymous
>>454238

What's better, a 315lb squat after 2 months, or a 315lb squat after 7 months?
>> Anonymous
>>454256

Whoever said I wasn't suggesting weekly periodization? If you can barely squat the bar, then you're a true weakling and Rip's way is better. You'll make rapid progress. If you've lifted weights before (ie typical bodybuilding routine) like a lot of people and can max squat at least 1.25x bodyweight, and decide to go on a strength program like Rip's, then slow and steady is better.

And to address your second retarded point, beginner mode is where you make the most progress. Everyone tries their best to stay in that sweet spot. I don't know where you get YOUR definitions about training, but workout to workout progress isn't the definition of what a beginner is.

>>454263

More like 315 after 2 months and burn out and quit, and 400 lbs after 7 months.
>> Anonymous
>>454285

It seems to me like you just don't understand the SS program, which is intended for complete beginners, or people who have never done any serious training with the compound lifts. What you're referring to as "Rip's way" is the logical way to program for a novice. If you CAN make workout to workout progress, then you SHOULD make workout to workout progress. Suggesting weekly periodization for a novice that is able to follow a linear progress model is entirely counterproductive.

I'm using the definition of a beginner (I guess I should say novice) outlined by Rip in Practical Programming. He didn't invent these definitions, and the ability to make workout to workout progress is essential the definition of a novice.

As for staying the sweet spot, yes, everybody does try to milk their ability to make linear progress for as long as possible. However once you are strong to the point that adding weight every workout isn't possible, that's it, time to move on. Prolonging the inevitable and making the same amount of progress in a longer time period, merely for the sake of avoiding the specious concept of "burnout" is pointless, and a gigantic waste of time.
>> Anonymous
>>454337

I understand the program. The problem seems to be what we're assuming the OP to be. Is he a complete beginner or advanced beginner? I'm making assumptions based off of myself; I had some weightlifting experience from high school, and still somehow maintained a decent squat before starting Rip's program. My workout by workout progressions stalled after a month, before switching it to week to week progressions.

Most likely the OP has already lost the ability to make workout to workout progress anyways, he's already spent 5 months doing it my way (the right way), if he's still making steady progress on his lifts, then he should keep on doing it week by week. Although 5 pounds a week is a little light, if OP was a rank beginner he can probably get away with 10 pound jumps a week for a few months.

And if you call 240 pound gains a year a waste of time, then you're a gigantic jerk. If you start at the bar, then yes, it would be a waste of time. If you start out around a 200 lb squat, then 5 pound weekly progressions are awesome. It's like a Bill Starr 5x5, but not quite as aggressive.