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Anonymous
Crunches are shit. SHIT I SAY.

Why do you do 50 or 100 or more crunches? Because that's how many it takes to get anything out of them.

What would you do if you had to do 50 or 100 reps on the bench press? You'd up the weight!

I've seen people doing crunches slowly with tight squeezes at the top. If I told you to do bench press with just the bar but 'do it slowly and squeeze at the top' you'd laugh at me and kick me in the balls. And you'd be right to do so.

Surely there must be better exercises to work the abs and midsection. And don't give me any of that bullshit about crunches developing flat abs whereas other exercises might develop bulging abs.

I've been doing roman chair situps for two months, and they are phenomenal. My midsection is strong and tight. Plus, when I do crunches again for the shit of it, my upper body practically flies off the floor for the strength of my abs.
>> Anonymous
i do GHD sit-ups, the ones that can kill you if you do too many

i'm going to start using weight with them.

but i only do those because they're easy and fast, don't really do much for core strength

i'd rather much prefer: deadlifts, front squats, sandbag squats/half moons/gets ups, turkish get-ups, ankles-to-bar, thrusters, probably 50 other things i'm missing
>> Anonymous
Fucking moron do the crunches while holding a weight in your hands
>> Anonymous
YOU are the moron>>392724. Think about it: holding a weight in your hands to do crunches increases the stress on your abs. What do roman chair situps do? Increase the stress on your abs. Same movement, except your way, you're losing your focus and dirtying your shirt trying to awkwardly manhandle a plate . Plus with my roman chair situps, I involve more synergists and have more freedom of movement to get the obliques.
>> Anonymous
GHD situps aren't entirely dissimilar from roman chair situps except you extend a lot farther back. However, the risk of rhabdomyolysis and kidney failure? No thanks!

Plus it's my view and experience that the midsection is evolved primarily for core support and stabilization, only secondarily for extension and flexion of the spine. I agree with>>392722about trusting in deadlifts, etc. to strengthen the midsection and using other midsection exercises as extra work.
>> Anonymous
>>392733
i agree that roman chair sit ups = fucking awesome

But i think he was also saying that ab crunches aren't total absolutes. It's not either roman chair sit ups or 100 crunches. there's alot of ways to add resistence to crunches and they definatley should be worked like any other muscle. But roman chair sit ups aren't the only way.
>> Anonymous
>>392738
THIS IS THE ONLY ANON WITH PROPER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THE SPINE IS DESIGNED TO WORK.

and it is reflected in his choice of "core" exercises...
>> Anonymous
I did a shit load of roman chair situps to the point where I barely felt any of them and I figured thats all I ever had to do to develop my abbs.

When I started doing crunches I would get that nauseous exhaustive feeling I have to ask do roman chair situps workout your entire midsection or only a part of it? Because it honestly felt like my top of my abdominals hadn't seen a decent workout in months while the bottom seemed much more resilient to fatigue.
>> Anonymous
>>392871
I suppose it depends whether you're flexing your spine or bending at the hips. With Romans, you can sort of do either or both.
>> Anonymous
I'm going to ask a retarded question..

What good are dragon flags? They sure are fabulous enough, ie. something you would do to impress people.
>> Anonymous
Turkish get ups.

/thread
>> Anonymous
no love for hanging knee raises?
>> RICK TAYLOR FROM SPLATTERHOUSE
>>392910

No because that's your ILIOPSOAS you *%$#
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>> Anonymous
>>392910
>hanging leg raises

yes