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Pic tagging/sorting program AlexMoron !JUmCz2K4z6
I'm hoping someone can help me here.

I have almost 3000 pics in my /e/ folder now and I was planning on organizing them into folders until I realized that some pics would fit in more than one category. Here's where I need help. Is there such thing as a program (preferably lightweight) that lets you browse your pics and folders of pics as well as add labels or tags to for easy finding?

In turn I offer some nice random /e/ material.
>> Anonymous
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Windows Vista.

Seriously though, Picassa is free and not half bad if you don't mind running a program every time you want to see your tagged pictures.

I just gave up and stick to folders now myself.
>> AlexMoron !JUmCz2K4z6
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Oh yeah, I use Windows.
>> AlexMoron !JUmCz2K4z6
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>>246818
No Vista for me.

About Picassa I've heard of that but I don't know much about it. What exactly do you mean you have to run the program every time you want to view them? Does it somewhat convert them or do you just mean to browse WITH tags?
>> Anonymous
>>246830
To browse with the tags. That's why Vista is nice (too bad that's the only nice thing), you don't have to run a program to view things sorted by tags.

Trying Picassa is worth a shot since it is free and if you decide you don't like it you can just uninstall it.
>> Anonymous
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I use FastStone, but I haven't actually played with the tagging system yet. It's good for moving pictures around that you want grouped together.
>> AlexMoron !JUmCz2K4z6
>>246834
I'm still too paranoid to use Vista. I hate people monitoring activity even if it's non-illegal. I wouldn't be able to function.
>> AlexMoron !JUmCz2K4z6
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>>246834
I'm still too paranoid to install Vista. I hate people monitoring activity whether it's illegal or not.
>> Anonymous
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Dozens of folders work best for me. I even break down categories into sub-categories. However, an auto-tagging system sounds heavenly.
>> AlexMoron !JUmCz2K4z6
>>246850
Yeah. My problem is I want to have my low-rise folder for Low-rise Tuesdays but I'm sure some other pics would qualify for other categories like say, redheads or ass pics.
>> AlexMoron !JUmCz2K4z6
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>>246850
Yeah. My problem is I want to have my low-rise folder for Low-rise Tuesdays but I'm sure some other pics would qualify for other categories like say, redheads or ass pics.
>> Anonymous
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Wow, compared to you people, I'm really disorganized...
>> Anonymous
>>246855
If you've got the harddrive space you could just live with the duplicates. Or you could use tags like redh and lowr.

For example:
animepicture_lowr_redh_bb.jpg

You won't be able to fit too many, but it helps a bit.
>> AlexMoron !JUmCz2K4z6
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>>246864
I'm a pretty organized person, it's annoying. I end up forgetting where I put things.

As for 4chan, I have a folder for every channel. I used to have two 4chan folders but it became too hard to find /e/ material because I'd have to search in both folders, so I just combined the two 4chan folders today.

Now, I'm stuck at having almost 3000 pics in my /e/ folder with nothing to organize them with. I installed Picaso but I haven't used it yet. Hopefully it has some sort of address bar thing so I can easily browse for pics I want to upload and just paste the link in the 'File' box.
>> Anonymous
heh, actually i was thinking about something like this a few months ago, a community-based image tagging system (a database with a file hash (CRC32 or whatsoever) and some tags related to that hash).

Some people told me that it had been done in the past so i got a little sad and never began.

What do you guys think bout this idea?, tag ur images, share your tags with others.
>> Anonymous
>>246886
.jpg files store their tags within the file itself, already.

As far as community tagging goes, I like the Danbooru style.
>> Anonymous
i am talking about creating image-specific tags, so you'll be able to download other's tags and you wont have to tag most of your stuff by yourself. It could also help you to search for an specific file within a library that you didnt organize all by yourself.

Thats the main idea :p
>> AlexMoron !JUmCz2K4z6
>>246886
>>246895
Are you talking about something online? That'd be nice, although I'm looking for something more local and personal. I'd mainly use it for posts that need specific pics so I can just pull up the tag list and start uploading.

>>246892
What exactly do you mean? With what program? I don't wanna use a program if it does something to the file itself. If it does, is there any proof of compression or harming of the files?
>> Anonymous
Well Picasa is good but the main thing I demand from tagging is that the database is exportable
& all the settings are exportable (like 200 main tags and 500 if you count sub-categories).

It would be major pain in the ass to write those again. This handy little program is PixFiler
and even if it's "run program to search with tags / tag your new additions" type, it doesn't slow down even at 30,000 pictures loaded.
That is a major bonus. Also it has the feature that >246873 needs, display the images full path.

Other than that, the ball is in users hands.
I like my tag system as small detailed as my
imgboard hunting/stashing has gone over the "looking for a needle in haystack".
30k pics by now, 10 folders and files named with MD5 Hash calculation for duplicate referencing,
rest is handled with PixFiler (mainly to find one picture, say like one from Code Geass, also
it's a scan and high-resolution + it has been shopped as parody.

Would be pretty much futile to search one folder containing 5k pictures for that
>> Anonymous
i like this idea. only problem is that it would be a pain to a) make/find a good program. the biggest thing would be that i think some of the posters want something that kinda connects into a bigger database. that would be a big pain to search other peoples databases. i love the idea but it has some short falls.

b) go though all your stuff and sort it. sure i would if it was easy but i run linux 98% of the time so there isnt really anything out there as far as i know.

over all i love the idea and if there was something id use it for sure so i can contribute to /e/ more.

one last thing. if everyone sorted out their shit and started posting we would get stuff like the epic pantie thread every day where we would fill 4-6 threads for simple things. so either /e/ would need a bigger image limit or more pages or even both.

overall just my thoughts but i love the idea
>> AlexMoron !JUmCz2K4z6
>>246905
Speaking of duplication referencing, how exactly does your method work? Currently, I just use a program called DupDetector that will analyze a folder (and it's subfolders) and find any duplicates within a certain percentage range.
>> Anonymous
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>>246907
I use DuplicateFileDetective, but as I store my files with names on referencing their content by MD5 Hash,
I need only point the program into my ImgBoards folder, then make it scan all files, compare file names
(this with MD5 Hash as name gives over 95% coverage) and just in case I add file size &
stronger content comparing (SHA1 160 bit) in case the name comparing fails.
In case of detected duplicate, it shows paths to both (or more if there is) and a marker.
You leave one unmarked and then after going through them, confirm deletion of the marked ones.
(also has copy/move, but that's pretty pointless)

Here's a shopped (more functions shown) picture of PixFiler in use.

Annotate is for marking the pictures with pretags, you select the tags you want to have with this file.
Advanced search is also shown and it goes by "select the rules/boundaries for displaying all pictures in this range".
If I was looking for above mentioned picture, I would select categories C.Geass, Photoshop, Parody & High-Resolution/Scan.
>> AlexMoron !JUmCz2K4z6
>>246914
I'm extremely tired so a lot of that first paragraph went past my head. Does that program do MD5 hashing? I have no clue how MD5 works. Please explain what you mean exactly by naming them like that if you can.

About PixFiler, do the categories and such get stored in a database or in the actual file itself? I'm always scared about extra info being stored on a file (and why I rarely use IDv3 tags on my mp3s).
>> Anonymous
tag data/options are stored in the program itself (and exportable for backup)

I name the the files with a little Java cmd-look-a-like program. It just calculates the files MD5 Hash and renames it with result.
I put my friend to code that as I have never touched Java but it was little ½ hour job for him to program.
>> AlexMoron !JUmCz2K4z6
>>246919
Wow, that's pretty insane. I'd humbly ask if there was any possible way you could either upload these programs or point me in the direction of getting them. I found both of those programs are trial versions.

In regards to the MD5, I'd love to see how that program works and try it out or something. So if you get the MD5 hash of an image, if someone else uploads another of the same image of the same dimensions and filesize, it would have the same MD5? Do you have the program filter every image download and rename them like this or do you have to do them manually?
>> Anonymous
I wouldn't recomend Picasa. It's the opposite of lightweight, and it takes hours to crawl a large amount of images.
>> Anonymous
>>246920
Anonymous to the rescue, as I have nothing better to do. Here be DuplicateFileDetective & PixFiler with appropiate keygen/crack.

http://www.badongo.com/file/2409745
>> Anonymous
>>246920
And yes, if the resolution and content matches, it has the same MD5 Hash (the same is used on deadbooru/sagubooru).
The hash doesn't change with name alteration or by user/uploader but it changes if you change even one pixel from the image,
thus causing look-a-like duplicates that have different MD5.
>> AlexMoron !JUmCz2K4z6
>>246928
To the rescue indeed! Thanks a ton! :D

Also, if you're not able to send your friend-made program (I understand if so), what's a good program that will get an MD5 hash of files?
>> Anonymous
Yeah, I can upload another program that does the trick as I'm bit hesitant to share the friends work. But I hope you can cope with MD5 Hash calculator.

http://www.badongo.com/file/2409809
>> AlexMoron !JUmCz2K4z6
>>246932
Not a problem at all, dude. I totally understand. You've been more than enough help already! I can't thank you enough!
>> Outrack
This seems like a good place to ask...

I'm in the same situation, only I have well over 40,000 images. Every organizer I've tried lags to hell, and setting up multiple folders with duplicate images is killing my HDD space.

Anyone know how to set up a Danbooru? I downloaded the software, but I don't know what to do after uploading everything... Would be nice to use their system to tag everything while being able to share all my images.
>> matt_7893
>>246949
yer im downloading and setting up the software this weekend(damn school). so yer if i get it working ill make a tutorial or something and we cal all start to use that style of thing. if this thread is still here ill post here but if its gone i dont think i should make a thread purely for this.

anyway ill work on it this weekend and make up something so we can start having /e/booru.
>> Outrack
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>>246950

I'd appreciate that, thanks.
>> matt_7893
>>246954
your offering of nekomimi is greatly appreciated. 1st MOAR.

2nd the code is based in ruby im working on it now. i think its designed purely for *nix (linux, UNIX freeBSD) but i don't know for sure. i run linux so im compiling it now and working on it. if it will all work in windows (i run a duel boot so ill be testing it as soon as i get it all working) then ill make a package for it and post it here.

sorry if this means nothing to you but im currently working on it and sidetracked by that.
>> AlexMoron !JUmCz2K4z6
>>246949
>>246950
Whoa, where is this software located?
>> matt_7893
>>246971
make your way to danbooru and there is a rapidshit on the page. just google danbooru and your there.
>> AlexMoron !JUmCz2K4z6
>>246974
Thanks! :)
>> Outrack
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>>246969

Actually, I really appreciate your taking the time to help :p

My host runs off Linux, not sure if that helps... I have no experience with it, and the most I've done with SQL is setting up a database for an Invision BBS.
>> matt_7893
>>246978
dude i had no more experience than you like 4 weeks ago. i got linux and havent looked back. but yer ive come to a problem at the moment getting postgresql working. the service wont start so i got to look into that more but its 11:30pm so im starting to get sore eyes.

anyway should we move this off to a text board on 4chan so that we dont keep bumping this stuff in /e/.
>> Outrack
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Moar nekomimi, as requested.
>> Outrack
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Didn't realize there was a Programming board on 4chan Oo; Yeah, it's probably a good idea (hope nobody minds the discussion with the images being posted :p)
>> realitychan
Wow, its amazing I didn't know how to use this "reply" feature till now
>> Outrack
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Opened the question on /prog/.
>> TheLostOne
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I didnt see it mentioned, but for detecting duplicates i use NoClone, typically i find it hard to trust duplicate finding programs because they find it hard to determine the difference between some images which are very similar, for example if you have a HCG/CG set with 2 images identical except for a girl having her eyes open and then closed in the other, typically they are paired as duplicates. I have tested NoClone and found that due to the way it checks images, this isnt a problem anymore.

Biggest thing about NoClone that i dont really like is its inability to offer a manual threshold like ThumbsPlus does, which is useful for finding duplicates images which are different sizes, it also doesnt determin diff file types like JPG or BMP to be duplicates even if they are. Apart from that i find it to work fast and effecient.
>> Anonymous
Prohint: If you have duplicates of images, you have too much porn saved to your harddrive.
>> Anonymous
Try Duplicate Image Finder by Runningman software. It does a pretty good job for me, and is able to find duplicates almost 95% of the time, including tiny differences like open/closed eyes on HCGs.
>> Anonymous
Personally I use Picasa and it seems fine to me. (sure the tags are stored in a file refering to the images, but then again do all image formats support tags within themselves?)

Of course, I've only been using it on my 12000 wallpapers (only 6000 tagged though... I'm slow at going through them).

Just make sure to use keywords in picasa, because tags just seemed annoying.
>> Anonymous
does pixfiler work in vista?
i dont see any network drives in the folder view when trying to add photos
>> Anonymous
sauce of 1st pic? I've seen it around and have alwasy wondered.
>> Anonymous
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If you don't want to run a program, just sort the files in a folder by file size. Generally your duplicates will be put next to each other and you can just delete all but one of them.

For sorting, about once a year I dump ALL of my images into a massive folder called "sorting" and then drag and drop them into sub-folders like "boobs," "catgirls," "ashi," "ashikoki," "favorites," and such. I take a good look the pics and evaluate whether there's any point in keeping ones that I may have grabbed but never really looked at.. let alone fapped to.. after that. After all, there's no point in having 500 pics if you only regularly fap to maybe 30 favorites.

Once I've sorted them, I burn a new backup CD. Usually I keep it down to where it can fit on one of those 250 MB mini-CDs. I don't figure I need any more porn than that.
>> Nightlands !GR1R.oFZ5w
The dedupe feature of GQView is the best free duplicate detector on the market.
>> Anonymous
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>>246978
This is holy win. Is there a source?
>> Anonymous
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