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VZ
Anyone else noticed this? Which do you like better?
>> Anonymous
notice what?
>> Anonymous
>>147986

gb2/b/
>> I thought what I'd do was, pretend I was one of those tripfags. !uhdacqdci6
>>148011
lol, wut?
>> Anonymous
delete this fucking thread already.
>> Anonymous
What are you trying to prove?
>> Anonymous
You are worse than at least 5 Hitlers.
>> Anonymous
the girl on the left is from witchblade?
>> Anice Farm, from Sonic Soldier Borgman. LFG
The girl on the left is Anice Farm, a character from an older anime called Sonic Soldier Borgman. The TV series was never released in the USA, but Arctic Animation fansubbed it long ago. You can also find it on HK DVDs. The Borgman OVAs were released on DVD by ADV Films and you can find it at www.rightstuf.com or www.animanation.com.

Anice is much better than the other girl (and it isn't because she isn't black as the stupids that posted before probably are thinking. I hate people that see racism in everything).
>> VZ
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>> Anonymous
>>148095
Irritating. Too many people on the internet need to learn the definition of prejudice...

Sexual preferences are not racism. Its not like you can take a girl or certain physical features and place them anywhere you want on your personal hotness meter. You can't just tell yourself to find that ugly toothpick at the bar with her ribs sticking out hot and have it be so. Your hormones and subconscious make those decisions for you. If you find dark skin unattractive, there's not much that you can do about it.
>> Anonymous
It's a tan.
>> Anonymous
>>148124
Thank you, jesus.
The girl isn't black.
>> Anonymous
I think tan-lines are hot.
>> huh whatzit
What's wrong with being attracted to white skin? What's wrong for liking white features, and I daresay even the dreaded blond hair and blue eyes? If 99% of human beings think a hook-nose with bulbous warts is less attractive than a straight nose, maybe a hook nose is less attractive to human beings, and maybe there are good genetic prerogatives for feeling so.

Seriously, modern anti-'racism' seems to be more about boosting up people because they aren't white and organizing them to put their ethnic interests over the ethnic interests of white people, than it is about fairness. I shiver at the very thought of thinking of white people as anything other than a non-people! And 'everybody' knows that only evil racists (I'm extending this sarcastic definition to any openminded person of any population group) that want to kill six million jews endorse any ideas of enhancing quality in human populations.

Truth and free-speech and observational data and all that are hate criminality. If 2+2=4 then you just loathe black people. Yeah, that's real openmindedness.

Oh, and if you think blond hair and a small straight nose and blue eyes and a non-sloped forehead are pretty, it's not because they are pretty features and human beings tend to find these things attractive, it's because you're a socially indoctrinated nazi/racist/whatever that wants to kill six million jews and enslave black people, although white people, as a population group, reject slavery and violence against civilians.
>> Anonymous
THEY ARE BOTH LOOKING IN THE SAME DIRECTION

CALL THE INTERNET

also nice picture on right k bye loldsol
>> Anonymous
Oo Why did this become a racism topic?

Sure one girl is darker, but look at both pictures. Two girls in fairly similar stances. One is on the beach, in a bikini, and holding a beer; the other is naked. Which would you take? The naked one, or the one that comes with a beer.
>> Anonymous
Agh I fucking hate niggers. All they do is act like victims and disregard anyone else as being a minority (even a white person living in a black neighborhood). They bitch and complain about everything, never stopping to realize that they (the person) simply sucks cock at what they do.

They act as if blacks are the only minority to get harassed by other ethnic groups. They act as if blacks are the only ones to have gone through hard times in history. They act like blacks are the only ones being victimized. They act like all blacks are poor.

What about the entertainment industry and how it's filled with nigger rappers and actors and athletes who get away with fucking murder? Why don't they do something for their own fucking race if they're that needy. Oh right, they bitch and complain and sue the government rather than actually contribute any worhtwhile fucking ideaologies or programs to help their fucking race.

What about the Asians? They're all smart right so they'll be set in life. Prevent them from any government aid because obviously they're rich and they're naturally smart so they'll naturally make it. Obviously buisness would rather have a hard working Asian man than a white man from a wealthy family. Okay yeah.

fuck blacks. Obviously we all perfer a white model to a black one because she's probably hotter. Race does not play an issue. Kill me for saying I rather write on white colored paper with a blue pen.

Fucking niggers. I have no problem with blacks though.
>> Cletus Bigsby
>>148272
I wrote a book about them!
>> Anonymous
Who cares about skin color? In a pragmatic sense, we're all ugly bags of water and cells.
>> Anonymous
>>148299

its icky when a black chick has a brown vergina

its pretty when a white chick has a pink verginny
>> Floripes
>>148213

Because people begin to complain about a perfectly normal question made by VZ...
>> huh whatzit
Skin color is a minor issue, true. That wierd skull shape is much more apparent. After all, between population groups skin color is a relatively minor issue and many races have similar skin tones.


The 1932 edition of the Encyclopedia Americana lists, among the distinguishing characteristics of the 'Negro' race, the following:

"3. Weight of brain, 35 ounces (in gorilla 20 ounces, average Caucasian 45 ounces)....

"8. Exceedingly thick cranium, enabling him to use the head as a weapon of attack....

"14. The cranial sutures, which close much earlier in the Negro than in other races. "


Later editions of these encyclopedias simply deleted the racial data on Blacks. One had to turn to specialized medical texts to learn that the associative areas of the brain, where abstract thought takes place, are less developed in the Black people than in White people.

Oh well, I'll probably be banned for even mentioning this, but it's nice to say the unrestrained truth once in a while. Just never get interested in evolutionary biology. Tis' a taboo science.
>> Anonymous
I prefer Masa-mune-san by 4 internets of distance.

BTW there's no similarities between the characters...
>> huh whatzit
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Posted in wrong area.. Blah, and typos.

Blacks have arms which are longer, relative to body height, than those of Whites. This feature, together with their much thicker cranial bones, gives Black athletes an advantage over Whites in boxing. The skeletal and muscular peculiarities of Blacks' lower limbs have given them considerable success as sprinters, but have left them relatively undistinguished as distance runners.

The Black skull has thicker cranial bones than that of the White, is prognathous; i.e., the lower face projects forward. In consequence, the Black jaw is substantially longer, relative to its width, than the White jaw. A feature of the Black lower jaw is its retention of a vestige of the "simian shelf," a bony region immediately behind the incisors. The simian shelf is a distinguishing characteristic of apes, and it is absent in Whites. Blacks also have larger teeth than Whites.

Sigh, I don't like using the term Black because it doesn't reflect the diversity of evolution in Africa and its a misleading term due to its emphasis on skin color, but using latin terms is something which is taboo.

As you can see, this gentle lady is not 'Black' in a racial sense even if her skin was pitch black, although she does indeed have extraordinary legs. Oh, and Black babies can raise their head at birth while White and Asian babies cannot.

Other interesting facts: Black babies start out far more developed than White and Asian babies, but they reach equality at two years of age (if memory serves correctly) and after that the White and Asian surpass. Also, Blacks generally gain sexual maturity at an earlier age. That's all I can remember.
>> huh whatzit
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Oh, and Black people have a much higher rate of lactose intolerance. One famous Black (female, I believe) athlete (Olympic proven or Olympic performing) died from a food allergy that was basically the buildup of the 'gluey' part of milk, casein. She suffocated in her sleep. I think I read that in a reader's digest.. For some reason 1998 comes to mind.

Oh, and the White-Black genome structures are not entirely compatible. There is a gene that white people have that is related to heart function, that if carried by Black people causes a high instance of heart disease, but is normal in white people.

Also, there is a heart medication that decreases Black risk for heart disease by 3 times (I think) but it doesn't do anything for White people. I can't remember what it is called.
>> Anonymous
>>148417
Where'd you get all this info? I'm skeptical to be honest wid you
>>148188
Taking it to the extreme. You can have preferences but having a preference doesn't =dismissing everything else
>> Kebinu !GhiZeo/aQQ
>>148419

I believe that was Florence Griffith-Joyner, aka FloJo.
>> Anonymous
>>148427
You can also have a preference against something. Just like people have turn ons, they also turn offs. In the case of some people, black features might just be a boner-killer.
>> Anonymous
>>148434
Either way I find it hard to believe that one can find an entire race's features "ugly". Everyone is different. Beyonce vs Neferteri Shepherd, Ciara vs Missy Elliot, L. Lohan vs Paris Hilton, Teanna Kai vs Adriana Sage, Each of these comparisons has two people of the same "color" pitted against each other and they're all very different from each other. To say an entire race is ugly is stupid. To justify that with the whole preference thing isn't much better...
>> Anonymous
I like the one on the left better, but it's more because the one on the right has boobs in shape of freakin' torpedoes and generally awkward proportions.
>> huh whatzit
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Good, you should be skeptical of everything. Skepticism is the ferment of progress, in my opinion.

My sources are my education and years of research in evolutionary biology. A great deal is from memory. I mentioned one source. I don't remember the name of my Calculus book, but I do remember L'Hospital's (pronounced Lobitals) rule.

The reason I posted the racial information on Blacks was because people are so ignorant of what race is, because race is a social taboo. If they see somebody with black skin, then they say that person is 'Black.' Melanin in the skin is a relatively minor difference for categorization, and is very diverse within races. The major differences are hormonal and structural. It's what under the skin that is difference, from the structure of the skull to disgestive abilities to muscle fiber types to disease immunities and so on. People from India are quite dark, but their racial characteristics are quite 'white' in their ruling classes. In fact, many of the higher castes actually have the characteristic skin color and hair and eye colors we associate with 'White' people. There are also 'Black' people that are albino, but they don't look 'White,' no matter how catchy the lyrics.

Also, people have a tendancy to not talk about white traits positively in white countries, because doing so is a social taboo. I think this is stupid and is definately not impartial or even an unrestricted opinion. I despise ignorance and I'm had so many shallow conversations with people locked into the religion of political correctness that it's a wonder that they can rub two brain cells together to tie their shoes together, much less this socially, philosophically, mathematically, and scientifically complicated issue.
>> VZ
Wow, didn't mean to cause all this arguing. Sorry.
>> Anonymous
>>148452
Even claiming you got it from Wikipedia would have more credibility than that. If you're going to make grand controversial claims, it actually looks good to have sources so others can research instead of dismissing you. If you're in a position to know, you can at least find something credible and quoteable.

"Sources? Who needs sources, this is the internet, where you can make anything up as long as it sounds good and agrees with the reader's biases."

I find hot black women a hell of a lot hotter than "black" anime girls.
>> Anonymous
>>148452
I can understand slightly different skeletal strucutre. But the whole thing with different fibers and hormones just seems odd. We're all human so when you get right down to it we shouldn't be that much different should we? It reminds me of that whole controversy about blacks having more of some specific muslce(can't remember name) which allowed them to be better athletes. Asked a bio teacher and he said that's nonsense. Some people despite ethnicity maybe more likely to develop X muscle due to genetics i.e. People who have fast metabolisms or whatever
>> Anonymous
>>148452
Racial differences are as follows:
White Traits (Ex)

Whites possess the following racial traits.

* +2 Dexterity, -2 Strength.
* Small size. +1 bonus to Armor Class, +1 bonus on attack rolls, +4 bonus on Hide checks, -4 penalty on grapple checks, lifting and carrying limits ¾ those of Medium characters.
* A white's base land speed is 20 feet.
* +2 racial bonus on Climb, Jump, and Move Silently checks.
* +1 racial bonus on all saving throws.
* +2 morale bonus on saving throws against fear. This bonus stacks with the white's +1 bonus on saving throws in general.
* +1 racial bonus on attack rolls with thrown weapons and slings.
* +2 racial bonus on Listen checks.
* Automatic Languages: Common, White. Bonus Languages: Dwarven, Black, Gnome, Goblin, Orc.
>> huh whatzit
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Wikipedia has a good article on race. Simply type 'race' into the wikipedia search engine. As for photocopying every source, I don't have a college library in my pocket. Whenever someone mentions biological difference over population groups (some skull structural normalities that I mentioned are pretty easy to see for yourself) you are required to source your sources and their sources, in normal conversation. A crackpot sociologist says that race doesn't exist doesn't have to prove anything; they just have to wildly conjecture and appeal to social taboos. I've been into evolutionary patterns since I was a kid.

From Wikipedia:
The most recent survey, taken in 1985 (Lieberman et al. 1992), asked 1,200 scientists how many ----disagree---- with the following proposition: "There are biological races in the species Homo sapiens." The responses were:

* biologists 16%
* developmental psychologists 36%
* physical anthropologists 41%
* cultural anthropologists 53%

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My estimated figure for sociologists is around 98% percent. This is coming from the same people who think there isn't a universal theory of science or truth, and that anything they say is ok as long as they reject 'normal' science and make their own systems 'true within themselves' while ignoring anything else. One such approach was the "Strong" something, but I can't remember the full name.
>> huh whatzit
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Another interesting study I actually found the link to (really easy.)

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2058688,00.html
According to the study, north European women evolved blonde hair and blue eyes at the end of the Ice Age to make them stand out from their rivals at a time of fierce competition for scarce males.

The study argues that blond hair originated in the region because of food shortages 10,000-11,000 years ago.---Finding them required long, arduous hunting trips in which numerous males died, leading to a high ratio of surviving women to men.

Lighter hair colours, which started as rare mutations, became popular for breeding and numbers increased dramatically.

“Human hair and eye colour are unusually diverse in northern and eastern Europe (and their) origin over a short span of evolutionary time indicates some kind of selection,”---increased the pressures of sexual selection on early European women, one possible outcome being an unusual complex of colour traits.”
--“Hair and eye colour tend to be uniform in many parts of the world, but in Europe there is a welter of variants,”

--Frost’s theory is also backed up by a separate scientific analysis of north European genes carried out at three Japanese universities.

--The hair colour gene MC1R has at least seven variants in Europe and the continent has an unusually wide range of hair and eye shades. In the rest of the world, dark hair and eyes are overwhelmingly dominant.
>> Anonymous
there needs to be m0ar of the girl on the left, rawr!
>> Anonymous
If only I could report this whole thread.
>> Anonymous
>>148591
Actually, I think this thread has been a pretty good discussion of racial features. No stupid mudslinging you see all the time.
>> Anonymous
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Ummm yeah, I'm just enjoying the ecchi. If you want a discussion, got ot the text boards I say.

This is an imageboard.
>> Anonymous
>>148670

Sage for a crappy screencap made into a crappy wallpaper

that chick from UFO Valkyrie deserves better
>> Anonymous
>>148562
..Whites are halflings and Blacks are elves?

@ the first pic: Right all the way.
>> Stripes and Top hats
Im only going to actually say anything in this thread because some of the things whatzit actually said are true when it comes to body structures. But I have yet hear him mention exactly why these structures are the way they are with both african americans and caucasian americans. Terms that he seemed to have lacked. Not to mention he is using Wikipedia which doesnt serve the purpose of being a true study. Until I see him actually go out there and make an experiment about how blacks and whites and which is truly better Im not going to take whatever he says seriously not to mention that his first statment in his arguement was obviously biased slowly becoming more and more copy paste from wikipedia other than his actual words.
"What's wrong with being attracted to white skin? What's wrong for liking white features, and I daresay even the dreaded blond hair and blue eyes? If 99% of human beings think a hook-nose with bulbous warts is less attractive than a straight nose, maybe a hook nose is less attractive to human beings, and maybe there are good genetic prerogatives for feeling so."

First part of my argument. I feel as though this poster first of all had the nerve to actually discribe these features as pretty vs bulbous warts. Great opening statment whatzit. Thanks for choosing your side that everyone else will know that you are a moron compared to anyone else on the internet.
>> continuing my arguement Stripes and Top hats
>>148712
From then on as you can tell he is using nothing more than numbers and copy paste from wikipedia. Obviously not a single point of any study or actual correct terminology has been made in his argument. And using 1932 data? you do understand that people actually do change with the abundance of breeding correct? More and more americans are nothing more than a melting pot. White or black doesnt really occur anymore because you can easily have a black or white cousin. Thats just how it is now-a-days. As for the rest of his argument, I want to actually read up on this. But coming from your mouth, Whatzit makes it unappetizing at most. Oh for the rest of you guys , I demand both in my office, NOW
>> Anonymous
WHOLE THREAD IS TL;DR

WHAT WAS VZ EVEN TALKING ABOUT IN THE FIRST PLACE
>> Anonymous
>>148419
The moment you said "white-black genome structure" was when I knew you were full of shit. "Race" in humans is an entirely social phenomenon except where used as broad, unspecific categories by scientists, and even there the benefits are often slim (how scientific can it be to divide people into the same categories used for thousands of years to justify racism and oppression? Here's a hint: not very). Minor physical and genetic differences do not an entirely different breed of human make, especially when the amount of genetic differences between members of a so-called "race" and differences between members of different "races" are practically the same. As a matter of fact, if you went and took a peek at the talk page of the Wikipedia article you keep referencing, you'd find this:

>The "race" notion is simply a mental scheme for classifying people. Whether it is useful depends upon the user. An enforcer of EEOC regulations will find this classification method more useful than will a molecular anthropologist. The problem with this article, or any article or a college course on the topic, is that those who find the "race" notion useful often justify it by confabulating appeals to authority: "science says," or "the bible says," or "the law says," or "history says." And so the article tries to teach what science (or the law or whatever authority) really says. It thus takes on the impossible job of teaching all human knowledge regarding all past and present human classification schemes to an uninformed reader. This, of course, is a hopeless task. Those who find the "race" notion useful want to persuade those who scoff at it, and those to whom it is useless want the others to abandon it.
This paragraph has been only agreed with. The article remains unchanged to reflect it solely because of the massive rewriting it would require.
>> Sir Wisdom
>>148719

Fucking 'Amen'. The first line alone was amazing. "The moment you said "white-black genome structure" was when I knew you were full of shit"
I thought about replying to such pathethic fallacy myself, but I simply opted to keep on browsing and jerking off. But since you made such a good reply, I too might as well.

I bursted into laughter as soon as I saw that 'retarded' remark on 'white-black genome structure'. Especially as a Genetics student. Race is NOT, again, NOT a significant genetical difference - AT all. "Race" is just a social classification we give almost arbitrary depending and according on very minor physical characteristics noticeable to the naked eye as a result of very slight variations, for example, amount of skin dye, melanine secreted.

If I see some ignorant individual who dare uses a science, he or she does not comprehend and hasn't studied to make a poor, fallacy based, ignorant explanation on a social phenomenon such as race, I'll vomit.

To put it simple, in a vulgar language more relevant to 4channers. If you can FUCK and breed, you're the same species, punk.
>> WTFZOMGREIBBQ
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>>148738
Oh SNAP! Time to whip out the e-penis!
>> Anonymous
>>148738
Glad you approve. I'd have ignored it too, but the sheer length to which this guy was allowed to babble his nonsense unchallenged shocked me into response. Racist pseudo-science can rot in /b/ where it belongs.

That being said,>>148562made me lol.
>> huh whatzit
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Actually I agree with that race is a categorical method that is only useful within specific contexts and even that these conceptions by necessity have to change over time because they are ways of organizing observations which they themselves change. However, you are just repeating what is popular to say that is equally incorrect to what you think you are opposing (which is social harm) and saying that one side doesn't have any merit at all. 'Black' people in the U.S. (again using terminology that I'm not comfortable with but that people understand) typically have a 30% 'white' admixture. True these aren't the same 'race,' as they used to be, but neither is the next generation the previous generation. And, yes, these are structures of genes, but genes aren't all independent in function from each other and they are put together by heredity/history and survivability (external to the nature of genetic structure itself.) Start randomly switching out cat and dog genes and things don't work right. If black people have cofactoring genes which cause harm when combined with a gene associated with the white population gene (heart disease case,) then race is NOT an oversimplification in that case. People who understand what race is, know it is statistical. Both the lax terms 'white' and 'black' are big correlated structures of genes, but like computer programs you can't just switch out code that has been put together just any way you like.You get seperate species by population groups breeding over time, into incompatible groups. There are great apes that have 95%-99% (not sure because it seems to fluctuate due to opinion) the same genes as human beings. Technically, all animals are using the same genetic technology that life on this planet uses.

To be continued.
>> huh whatzit
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The only real difference is information. Also, unique genetic traits are passed on in this manner in large population groups. After gene therapy becomes possible, indeed race becomes an outdated idea. In fact, perfectly malleable genetic technology would eventually make SPECIES a mute issue. But we don't have perfect gene therapy yet, and we have kooks that reject anything good about white people genetically because they fear that somebody is going to kill six million Jews and enslave black people. That's not only spurious, but insane, and goes against the social nature of white people. 'Anti-racism' is just as bad as social policy based on racial oppression. In fact, they are really the same thing. Neither are seeking to clarify or act on truth. It's the irony of having affirmative action and ethnic organization for anybody who isn't white and not demanding the same thing in countries where white people are not majorities, when you aren't supposed to be acting socially on race at all and abolishing the whole system together.

To be continued.
>> huh whatzit
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As for biologists and geneticists saying that race does exist, I know 3 personally. They make good arguments. Contrary to popular opinion, a good argument is better than having a thousand people believe that it is safe to believe what you say. Don't appeal to logical fallacy. After all, most people used to believe the world was flat even though educated people knew from the conjectures by the Greeks that it probably was spherical. I will tell you that quite a few geneticists have to pull theories or claims because, as one reasearcher said that found that brain formation till adulthood differs between racial groups, it's "better not to know." That's embracing ignorance and persecuting truth. That's dark ages insanity, and we just switched out religion with political correctness. Another instance was of someone with a PH.D who did studies in the U.K. of the genetic correlation with IQ is around 70% or more and gave his book away for free off a forum witht the agreement that no-one mass copy it (finished it last year) because everyone refused to publish it. Not because it had anything insulting in it, but simply because you will be punished if you aren't 'right-thinking.' The Bell Curve just stated observations, and people lost careers for being on the wrong side of the argument about that book.

What you are just saying is the typical diatribe of someone embracing closedmindness due to a social taboo which amounts to putting your hands over your ears and screaming shut the person up; I hate that person; how dare they challenge my beliefs.
>> Anonymous
>>148765

Yes. If I could do one thing with political correctness, I would kill it with fire.
>> Momoko
The one with the beer, duh.
>> VZ
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I didn't mean for this to turn into a disscusion about race. That wasn't my intent.

What I WAS trying to go for is that how both pics look almost the same except the one on the left was made almost 20yrs ago.
>> VZ
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>> Anonymous
You're wrong, and I could prove it, but honestly? I've stopped caring. No matter what I say you're going to spout "ZOMG POLITICAL CORRECTNESS" as justification for your gross misinterpretations of science. Just get your arguments the fuck out of /e/ and into /n/ or /vip/ or some shit. Seriously, what the fuck happened to this thread?
>> Anonymous
Only thing I wanna know is how the fuck anyone mistook the one image for a black girl when she had OBVIOUS TAN-LINES? I'm beginning to think 4Chan doesn't even look at the images anymore...
>> Anonymous
>>148442
Seconded.
>> Anonymous
>>148818
Look the same? Wut?