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Anonymous
I sense a little bit of plagiarism.
>> Anonymous
My bitching sense is tinglin'
>> Anonymous
nice findings.
go yell at them.
>> Anonymous
You are the biggest retard to walk the earth. No one is accused of plagiarism for copying a pose, you dolt.
>> Anonymous
What about for blatantly TRACING it?
>> Anonymous
So? A lot of aspiring artists will trace\sketch\intimidate other art works. Even profesional artists do it sometimes.
>> Anonymous
Here's something off topic.

Somebody post a bigger version of the nude pic.
>> SonicTH
>>168062

You're like...t3h dumbass.
>> Anonymous
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>>168093
Those professionals are what we sometimes call "hacks."

On a related note...

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/13452411/

Lawl.
>> Weasil !4mHGxTWebc
>>168093A lot of aspiring artists will trace\sketch\_intimidate_ other art works.

COME ON YOU PICTURE, GIMME YER LUNCH MONEY
>> Quit whining Anonymous
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Plagerism is the act of taking the work of another artist and slapping their name on top of it. The pic looks traced, poorly traced, but could have been an anatomical study, proportion.

The style between the original and the secondary product however are different. Pic not mine, but great regardless!

Now back to your regularly scheduled fapping.
>> Anonymous
>>168093
Rob Liefeld doesn't count as a professional artist.
>> Anonymous
>>168130
milk tank tifa? wins!
>> Anonymous
I wonder if they get paid for bitching...
>> Randamn
>>168026
tol, nice eye
>> Anonymous
>>168026
getting the pose down is half the work, so yeah, that's just fucking lame.

>>168093
Yeah many people use reference, but using a reference isn't what's going on in the pic, that's just copying. Reference is what is used if i for example, want to draw a Morrigan, then i need to look at a picture of Morrigan to know what she looks like.

Also, Rob Liefeld
>> Anonymous
Anon wants to see a bigger version of the original nude posted by OP and less bitching
>> Anonymous
>>168113
source on the original so i can bitch about it on a policy violation report.. which can be done without logging in to DA i think
>> Anonymous
>>168272

Who is Rob Liefeld?
>> Anonymous
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>>168275
>> Anonymous
>>168275

American comic artist. Known for his total lack of understanding of anatomy. Drop by /co/ sometime and you'll probably see a thread bitching about him.
>> Anonymous
I don't see what's wrong with someone using another person's drawing to sketch a pose 'cause the human anatomy can be tricky. S/he added pretty much the rest of the details on their own, and it's not like you can copyright a pose in the first place.
>> Anonymous
>>168272

Quoted for truth.
>> Anonymous
>>168128
lawl
>>168130
fapping in a fapsafe workwork board work in fapping-fap-fappety a safe fapwork boardwork safework workety-work boardsafe fapping in a worksafe board YEAH!
>> Anonymous
tl;dr but saw this and reminds me that there are books(mine's from japan) of just nude people posing.
>> Anonymous
>>168287
No, you can't copyright a pose. But tracing over another person's drawing is like yelling "I'M A LOSER WHO DOESN'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT ART BUT I LIKE FAKING IT LOL".
>> Anonymous
>>168429
Indeed, I dont have a prob with someone just looking at a pose and using it, but tracing it is just lame. If your not some fucking idiot of a artist you should be able to make it your own, not just steal it.
>> Anonymous
>>168287
The original image is copyrighted the instant it is finished. The second image is a derivative (and a blatant one) of that copyrighted work. It violates international copyright laws that both the US and Japan are signatory to.

You know what you CAN'T copyright? The character design. The original character design from the first image redrawn into a different pose wouldn't violate the copyright.

And that's where trademarks come in. NORAGE IST POWAH.
>> Anonymous
>>168429

"I'M A LOSER WHO DOESN'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT ART BUT I LIKE FAKING IT LOL".

I can live with that! ^^
>> Anonymous
People... they're just lines... -_-

Instead of protecting the art of someone who you totally don't know, protect something else! XD

Besides, the more fap material, the better. ;)
>> Anonymous
>>168617
I don't know what kind of person you are, but I am QUALITY over QUANTITY
>> Anonymous
>>168093
just because Albert Fish did it, we should all do it, right?
>> Anonymous
>>168620

I don't know what kind of person you are, but I am TAKING IT EASY over BITCHING
>> Anonymous
>>168627

I don't know where you live but... where I live it's a free country... O.o
>> Anonymous
>>168632
you don't know who's Albert Fish, don't ya? lmao
>> ~Caine
>>168272
absofuckinlutely incorrupt.
Drawing morrigan is only plagurizing IF you say you did it. If not its fan art.
Using a reference picture to draw morrigan is not plagurizing.
This particular pose in the OP's post is not a study model of plagurizing.
The pose is the most referenced candid pose in photography, painting, drawing, and in general art.
Fuck albert.
Fuck this whine thread.
Just because you found a similar pose doesn't mean you found someone doing a bad thing.
There are a limited number of poses the human body can do, and it ISN"T copyrightable. Thousands upon Hundreds of THousands of images have similar or the SAME pose in them. The human form has been drawn so many times its impossible to draw the form again without doing something exactly like somone else. However, drawing style and reference pictures aren't copyrightable either.
Even if the artist used the sample image, it isn't a copyrightable issue. Many reniasance artists used others poses to redo an inspired piece of their own. Its art status quoe.
Obviously most of you trolls aint got a damn clue and the OP needs to stab himself stupid with a pencil so he doesn't notice such things in the future.
>> Anonymous
>>168645

No but I can do a google search ^^
>> Anonymous
True Art is found in museums.

Everything else is fap material.
>> Anonymous
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>>168674
My point wasn't that the pose was used as a reference. If you open the image, you can clearly see that the first image was traced over (see the black line overlay on the left). I'm all for using other work as an inspiration or a learning tool, but when you simply trace an image, what have you learned?

>>168273
I'm having trouble locating the image among 5,000 others in two folders. Here's a random beautiful drawing until I find it.

>>168113Those professionals are what we sometimes call "hacks."
Haha, well put.
>> Anonymous
this thread is overfilled with too much bitching

someone owes to turn it down
>> Anonymous
Ok I understand this but why is it wrong to draw from real human poses, like in a photobook?
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OP again.

>>168273
Enjoy
>> Anonymous
>>168736

Coming from a freelance artist, there is nothing wrong with using a human reference model for a work. However, tracing something and calling it your own is pretty sad.
>> Anonymous
>>168736
it isn't as long as it isn't blantantly traced like OP's pic. and give credit.
>> Anonymous
>>168274
LOL internets

Image Theft, Ripping, and Plagiarism
deviantART will not tolerate plagiarism or "rips" - taking another artists work and posting it as your own. Ripping is image plagiarism and theft against your peers. deviantART considers the following image theft and plagiarism:

1. Posting another artist's material found inside the community or outside the community with little or no modification and claiming it as your own.
2. Use of non-stock photography, poetry, or a portion of another deviation without the original authors written authorization (to be included in a zip file for download).
3. Posting another artist's material found inside or outside the community, not claiming ownership, but failing to seek the written authorization of the original author for its use.
4. Posting another artist's lyrics, poetry, or other writing without their written authorization to do so.

If an artist feels that they have been ripped, or is aware that another artist has been ripped, please notify staff via violations@deviantart.com with the following information:

1. Link to the original work.
2. Link to the "ripped" work.
>> Anonymous
4chan is a great place to start art theft awareness group.... I see you doing big things...
>> albert fish invited me for dinner, should i go? Anonymous
>>168736
there's nothing wrong with using human models and ADAPTING them to your own preferences/style/whatever
but tracing someone else's drawing and pretending it's your is laughable...
I knew a girl who wanted to be an artist, and instead of trying and making an effort, she would go and make screencaps of h-games, she'd go and steal drawings from goth webs, she'd go as far as stealing furry pics and claiming she'd done it all by herself, she made up an imaginary group of "friends" who colored her pics and that way she could explain why every pic had a different coloring style...

isn't it... pathetic? I still lmao when i remember it
>> Anonymous
It's okay to use someone's work to reference the pose, it when they blatantly copy everything on the work which is wrong.
>> Anonymous
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animated
>> Anonymous
Seeing a picture of Rob Liefeld, that man instantly reminded me of a fairhaired version of Uwe Boll.
>> Anonymous
>>168908
In this case, what's being copied is the concept of those fighting moves filmed from those angles, and is not a copyright issue. While it could be taken as a plagiarism issue, that scene is not a dominant focus of Naruto and its removal would not significantly alter the work, so is unlikely to be held as such.
>> Anonymous
>>168914

LOL WUT?
>> SonicTH
>>168908

I was told this scene (in Naruto) was coreographed by the same guy who designed the Cowboy Beebop scene and just wanted to pay homage to his old work for eagle-eyed watchers.
>> Anonymous
>>168919

IT'S A TRAP!
>> Anonymous
It would need a real idiot to believe in that...
>> Anonymous
>>168941

Ooopss, I was talking to>>168919
>> Anonymous
>>168912

Glad I'm not the only one..
>> Anonymous
>>168919
ya but its actually originally from a bruce lee movie.
>> Anonymous
>>168919
You were lied to by a narutard.
>> Anonymous
>>168674

lmao

Fucking talentless hack of a 12 year old who can't draw for shit is defending tracing? NO WAI.
>> Anonymous
>>168919

O.o

Whoever told you that is a complete retard.

And so you are for believing that.

THIS COMES FROM A BRUCE LEE MOVIE, DUMBASS!
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If you're gonna borrow heavily, at least do it better than the original. Theres nothing worse than copying, then failing hard. pic related.
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>>168274
Source is an old PS1 game called Kagero: Deception 2, evidently. Not sure if the pic was official art or fanart.