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Anonymous
I would like your advice, /d/
I'm thinking of commissioning a hentai picture, but I don't know which artist to choose. Any recommendations?
>> Anonymous
Post the picture of your favourite style. And how much you're willing to pay. =)
>> Anonymous
There are various styles I like, so I am not sure yet. I am willing to pay up to 100 euro, although I do not know if this is enough money.
>> Anonymous
>>425733

Well, define better.
Colours, b/w, content?
>> Anonymous
100eu should be just fine, especially if you're not looking for someone really big-name. There's plenty of talent that's not well-known.
>> Anonymous
>>425735

Definitely colours. I'm not sure about the content yet. I think futa, 2 persons having sex. But I have to think about that.
>> Daniel
>>425743

Oh, I thought to offer myself, but if it's futa, why don't you commission Dmitrys?
>> Anonymous
Palcomix are great imho.
>> Anonymous
>>425746

He makes great pictures, but his drawing style is not my type (no offence Dmitrys!)

Any other suggestions for artists? All I know are Palcomix and Sirkowski.
>> Anonymous
Yo OP, listen up!

How about you tell me what you want, chose a style and everything, and if I'm up to it/if you'll like it, I'll save you 100 euros and draw you one for free.

What do you say?
>> Anonymous
>>425804

That's nice, but I really want to spend the money on an artist that is "known".
>> Anonymous
>>425808
Why?
>> Anonymous
>>425810

Personal preference :-)
Again, I do not want to offend anyone. I would just like to know a few artists webpages, that do commissions.
>> Anonymous
>>425804
post one of your pre-existing pictures so we can all see if you're any good.
>> solios
>>425811


I do commissions (info @ solios.deviantart.com ) and the "NO PRAWNZ OMG!" is just a flag to keep the idiots who want the lame shit at bay.

My style's not exactly japanese (or popular) - if it (or the rates) aren't your thing, poke around DA some more - there's plenty of good artists looking for cash.
>> Anonymous
>>425811
sure thing buddy, no offense taken. Your call, but as I've said I'd draw it for free so I don't see what have you got to lose.

>>425813
none of what I have here is... suitable for /d/, so to say. But tell me what would you like to see!
>> Anonymous
>>425823
don't you have a website?
>> Anonymous
>>425889
No, nothing.

I do, however, sometimes draw in /i/.
>> Anonymous
>>425915
dude, why don't you just like to something you've drawn, upload something, etc?
>> pfft... turkey_baster_3000
Seriously. Any time someone in a forum, or mmo or whatever makes a claim and then beats around the bush for an hour, you just know they're blowing smoke up your ass.
If you've got art that's not suitable for /d/ upload it to the appropriate section and link us to it.
>> Anonymous
*link
>> Anonymous
PALCOMIX
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PALCOMIX
PALCOMIX
PALCOMIX
PALCOMIX
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>> Wolf Lord
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I commissioned this picture from High Heeled Jill. Cost was £55 (€80 or so), excluding postage.

http://highheeledjill.wwoec.com/
>> Anonymous
Lol. This sort of thing is a massive waste. Any artist good enough to hack it, doesn't waste time doing porn commissions. Sure, most artists do a bit of smut once in a while, but the guys who do it as a day job are fucking bush-league.
>> colors !pzxMQZFzQc
>>425952
You offer enough money and most artists will draw anything
>> dmitrys
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persone payed 50 USD for this. for 100 euro , i hope you cna imagane whats sort of flap-o-rama i can produce for you.
smogyloh@hotmail.com
if you change you mind.
>> Mel !iKGMr61IHM!!VJX
It's really a matter of personal preference, but if it were me, I'd go with either RZX or Dmitrys.
>> Anonymous
There are artists on 4chan who's daily work handedly obliterates anything ever posted on this forum. The reason why they themselves don't post is because they can't have people know that they actually attend this site. Although it may not have occurred to some people here (although I don’t know how) that professional artists may not want their spouses, families, friends and companies knowing that they’ve been on a site with the sheer raunch factor that 4chan has. I personally rarely see anything on 4chan that exceeds my own artwork, and when I do, it’s official artwork by larger game developers. Hell, half the artists on Deviant art don’t actually post here in person, and if they do, they do it under the guise of an anonymous user who is ‘supposedly’ posting someone else’s art. As far as artists ‘drawing anything if they’re offered enough‘- that doesn’t really apply here since the real money exists with the context of a contract (and fyi: even then some artists won’t draw ‘anything’). I’m sure you’ve all heard the golden rule as it applies to risky career moves: Only do it if the payment is more than you would make in the rest of your regular career (since you may end up without one). All I’m saying is don’t rush to blow your money on a single hentai illustration when you could actually buy a couple quality art books for that price on Ebay, etc.
For artists here like dmitrys who have actual potential- this is going to sound condescending but- smut is a dead end gimmick that artists get sucked into because of the undisciplined content and quick response from viewers. Then it leaves you with a shadow of the career that you could have had if you’d applied to an actual company and contributed to real projects that millions of customers appreciate (and pay for). Hey, I’d be a bigger dick if I didn’t mention it.
Oh and for the record if you ARE going to commission a piece I would agree with>>426198lol.
>> Ehhh..... !N2Rn3IpqO2
>>426305
Huh.

Incidentally, nobody cares.
>> Anonymous
>>426319
I’m sure they're absolutely riveted by your post.
>> Ehhh..... !N2Rn3IpqO2
>>426322
Ah, but here's the key difference: mine was directed at only one person.
>> Anonymous
>>426324
So was mine. I just widened the topic in order to avoid centering that person out. Put it this way: Artists are notorious suckers for short changing themselves (because they are highly critical of themselves). I just hate to see aspiring artists squander a bright future by getting caught in the cycle of low profile smut art commissions. Of course you’ll make your arrogant little remarks though, because you want guys like dmitrys and rzx to waste their time appeasing jerks like you who don’t give a shit about them.
>> Kebinu !GhiZeo/aQQ
>>426305

'Sup Mr. Hodges, how's the ferret comic coming?

This thread is now about artists who have drawn porn and went on to have successful mainstream careers and sometimes continued to draw porn anyway.

Masamune Shirow, Satoshi Urushihara, Yui Toshiki, CLAMP, Kouta Hirano, Ken Akamatsu & MAGI, Noizi Itoh, Aoi Nishimata & Hiro Suzuhira, Naruco Hanaharu, Mogudan, Oh! Great, etc. etc. I'm sure somebody can think of more.
>> Anonymous
>>426305

Hmmm. There are artists that make good money off of drawing smut. Julius Zimmerman comes to mind. He must make 6 to 8 hundred a week off of his naughtybid auctions alone, and I know he also sells a lot of prints. Granted, I'm sure he has a day job too, but as far as suplemental income goes, I'm sure he doesn't mind the extra money for what, I'll be honest, is probably a minimum about of time taken to dash off a few sketches.

Not everyone can work for Disney.
>> Ehhh..... !N2Rn3IpqO2
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>>426329
>>426327
Actually, I don't give a shit about any of 'em. There'll always be decent porn out there, so I don't much care what individual artists decide to do. My point is still valid, though. You're posting a rather asinine lecture on an imageboard. Your intended audience either isn't here or doesn't care. I'm simply pointing out that your post is made of fail.
>> Ehhh..... !N2Rn3IpqO2
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>>426336
Dammit, left a link in that I didn't mean to. That wasn't directed at Kebinu at all.
>> Anonymous
>>426329
lol. What about ferrets?
Anyway, I figured it was inevitable that someone would make that point (about the artists). Hmmm... I noticed that all those artists are conspicuously Japanese. As an artist outside of Japanese heavily influenced (at least early on by Japanese art) I have frustrating personal understanding of the fact that I’m not in Japan and that the rules and standards are different. Let me point out another sad flaw in your point- It’s a misconception that those well know Japanese artists (guys like Shirow) are these big figureheads that have prosperously lives. You wouldn’t know it but a lot of those artists are actually making chump change living from project to project. No one wants commissions when they can get a good contract. Trust me. I know coworkers who can attest to that.
>> Anonymous
>>426336

Actually, as he mentioned in his post, some of his intended audience IS here, and MAY care, but we don't want people knowing we're here and caring.

>>425723

Dmitrys if it's color. Black and white, not so much.
>> Anonymous
>>426331
I actually agree with you post entirely (if in fact the artist is just drawing casually). On the other hand nothing beats ditching the day job, drawing full time and getting payed good money for it. For anyone who doesn't believe me, just attend a tour of the nearest moderate sized game development studio. I won't go into details, but suffice it to say that the perks of the job would make blood shoot out of your eyes.
As far as Disney goes, I’m not a fan. It’s funny you should mention that though, since half the animators at Disney art doing smut commissions on the side (not for the money, but to alleviate the stress of drawing kiddy shit all the time. Lol)
>> Anonymous
>>426347
Exactly. The last time I mentioned I was a professional (for the sake of argument) on 4chan no one believed me (as though it were so unthinkable). I've said it once and I'll say it again: People would be surprised who actually comes here, and who they are talking to when they post. We just can’t post or work because we could be met with several different types of trouble for it (personal and professional).
>> Anonymous
Do a search on DA for "commissions" and you're bound to come across someone willing.
>> tehBeef
>>426336
Guys like you annoy me so much. You act like just because we’re looking at risqué art that we must all be immature deviants with attitude problems. Serious conversation bothers you because you’re threatened by it. You worry that the people making points will get more attention than you. Grow up
>> Anonymous
>>426365
Ya, but of the really skilled ones, most won‘t be (at least not if the commission is for futanari, etc.). I could link you right now to several really talented DA artists who no doubt attend 4chan (in fact I guaranty you there is NO way they don’t at least no about this site) but don’t post here personally.
>> Ehhh..... !N2Rn3IpqO2
>>426370
Yes, that's _exactly_ what I'm saying. Because /d/ is the perfect place for serious discussions that have little to nothing to do with alternative hentai, qua alternative.

Lurk moar.
>> Anonymous
>>426386
Withing the boundaries of the rules /d/ is whatever we make it, shit-head. It's not just for you to decide.
>> ??
If you're going to hire someone to do something /d/-awesome, I recommend our resident Russian master.
>> c h a n
>>426329
I can think of a couple /d/ favorites who have disappeared from the scene to pursue their careers...the latest victim might be Kouin N.
>> edo_hure !CY6ac/sjcI
choose dmytris
>> Anonymous
i believe this is when you folks would say (clears throat) TITS OR GET THE FUCK OUT
What is all this artsy fartsy draw me a picture bullshit doing on /d/ why don’t you just go to art school and learn to draw
That way you can have unlimited fapping material at all times
>> Anonymous
>>426442
silly anonynous, you cant fap to your own pictures
>> Anonymous
426442
dont work that way
he could go to school and still not be able to draw, and 2 most artists dont FAP to the things they draw.
>> Anonymous
>>426560

Silly anon. If people can fap to futa and goo girls and inflation tentacle porn, others can fap to their own hand drawn art. It takes all kinds.
>> Anonymous
hahahahahaha
man, some of you guys are living in a tiny little box of supposed good morals, i swear.

Japoneese artists often draw "porn" because it does sell and helps make them a career and it's more acceptable in other countries than the US.
most American artists draw enough adult material to make a good living from it and you better believe they'll draw smut for money. Adam Hughes, Adam Warren, Scott Trenton, Jim Lee, Derek Miles, even Joe Kubert has drawn adult material, often early in thier careers to help gain some momentum then break into bigger things through comics and graphic novels. most of which tend to have some nudity, some sex, and alot of adult related material. Steven Butler had to keep himself from drawing Batman the Animated Series girls half naked or in various "situations" in order to keep his 1/2 G-1/2 PG rating.

paying a named artist is not always a way to get the best art and if you want a big name on the piece, you want it for bragging rights more than the image itself, otherwise you'd have already gotten 10-15 drawings for a combined total of $75 by now from artists who will one day be big in thier own way (nationally, internationaly or just local and web based famous). believe it and sorry to burst some bubbles out there, but porn is a subject that everyone worth a damn keeps as an open option, even the big names.
>> Anonymous
>>426561
you poor poor person, why do you think they started drawing smut to begin with? because their stuff was better than what they could find and could make them a fair euro at the same time.
>> Anonymous
www.crimsonjassic.com
http://www.crimsonjassic.com/hentai/hentaiart/futanarifun.jpg
One of my favourites there.
>> Anonymous
>>426591
The east and west are worlds apart with regards to this sort of thing. In the west not only is there huge pressure to create content that resides closely to the mainstream, but there is intense pressure to draw that content in specific ways. And ya, those guys draw a bit of smut, but if you're paying attention you'll notice that they are only that open about it once they're already established as big name artists (and they are still careful to make sure they don‘t become known primarily for smut). What I'm saying is that it's not a good way to *begin your career. I don't think most people realize the flak that artists get for even drawing breasts a certain way (an I'm not just talking about size). That pressure won't stop the most skilled arts, because once the customer has spoken, it's a done deal, but it is a major obstacle early in an artist's career.
>> tehBeef
>>426596
Holy shit... that just prooves the point. Jassic is an example of an artist who made a sudden, obvious effort to 'get serious' about his art, and draw something other than porn. Those new pictures of Samus that he painted completely destroy anything that he made before when he was only drawing porn.
>> Anonymous
>>426591
No one's talking about morals. They are merely saying that pornographic art commissions are a trap that artists fall into and sometimes don't grow out of. It's an issue of confidence, skill growth, and economics for the artist.
>> Ehhh..... !N2Rn3IpqO2
>>426415
Damn you're dense. All right, let me put this is terms you might be able to understand, "shithead." /d/ is an active imageboard with a maximum number of threads possible. Old threads are shunted out as new threads come into play, a very frequent occurance. Due to this startling phenomenon, threads rarely last more than one and a half or two days.

Serious discussion doesn't work under these kinds of limitations. People aren't constantly online, dickface. They aren't hanging off your every word, and thus the maximum number of exchanges that you can reasonably expect to get with another person under the limitations that exist on /d/ is quite low. I'm not telling you what you can and can't do, I'm telling you that you're incredibly stupid for trying to do something incredibly pointless.

Are you starting to get it, cocksucker?
>> Anonymous
>>426589
in b4 someone commishes what he is describing. I imagine it would be weird but you know what this is /d/. THAT PIC WILL BE THE ESSENCE OF /d/? A PIC MASTURBATING TO A /d/ PIC YOU HAVE MADE? ALSO FUTACOCKS
>> grow up turkey_baster_5000
>>426741
awwwww. Is the baby feeling gassy? Go on little guy, cry it out. Everything you just said is rendered pointless by the fact that 1. this thread has lasted almost 24 hours and is therefore relevant (a fact that you're validating with your pissy little rant), and 2. you ARE in fact trying to control what goes on here, because beyond giving your opinion you are obviously trying to stifle others. Stop being such a whiny little bitch.
>> Anonymous
Whoa, that was kinda cool.

After reading thru this thread, I lost my hard on, forgot I was in /d/, and almost forgot who I was.
>> Anonymous
>>426861
It's sad enough when people complain about 'being forced' to read a single post, but an entire thread? I'd hate to say anything as cliche as 'if you don't like it, don't read it' but well... there you have it.
>> Anonymous
>>426876
It wasn't really a troll comment. Only bad part about the experience was losing my hard on, but that is easy to obtain again.

I just thought it cool how I spaced out so much while reading that I sorta drifted off, it was an interesting topic.
>> Anonymous
>>426884
I understand, and I'm glad you enjoyed it. I agree that the topic is an interesting one. As an artist I've been interested in this for some time, particularly when I would see the sites of quality hentai artist's disappear, and wonder what happened. Then see them reemerge as professionals who's niche is no longer hentai, but mainstream projects that are impactful in more meaningful ways (yet thankfully still boner-inducing lol). The Final Fantasy series is a perfect example. Characters like Tifa, Lulu, Rikku, Quistis (the list is a mile long) are arguably way hotter that those quicky half-baked characters exclusive to h-manga, and none of them would exist if true Greats like Tetsuya Nomura or Akihiko Yoshida had dicked around with smut instead of buckling down.
>> Anonymous
Every time I create an image with a female subject I am temped to make the picture more risqué than what is most marketable to the wider audience, but in recent years I’ve been disciplining myself more in terms of content. I have to say that although pictures like that are seemingly less exciting to work on, once I’m finished I am always so glad that I showed restraint. This is due to the simple fact that the picture is of higher quality, because the focus was quality in general including sex appeal, as opposed to sex appeal alone. In addition, it can also be viewed by everyone, not to mention, impress perspective game developers, which even if you’re currently working for a studio, gives you tons of leverage because of your employer’s desire to keep you at all costs (*Note: that’s when real money is earned.
>> Anonymous
>>425723
this is kind of off topic (amazingly) but can we get a source on the op?
>> Anonymous
>>426861
I too got lured into this thread by the op's pic, losing my hard on. On the othher hand, i now understand smut artists more, so it's an even trade
>> Anonymous
Wait, DA people visit this place?

HI SNAPESNOGGER!!!


You know, that just opened up a world of possibilities here. I could literally request a pic that didn't exist before and BAM, next thing I know, somebody drew it.

I gotta try that.
>> Anonymous
>>426983
Focusing more on quality than pure sex appeal(still having some of course.) With the higher quality work, even if it is meant for mainstream, the extremely high quality mixed with alil sex appeal leaves alot to the imagination. Even though you might not be able to sit down and fap to it on the spot, the shear fact that you can't makes you love the picture even more. Kinda hard to get across what I'm saying, but I'm sure some of you understand.
>> Anonymous
>>427006
I totally agree. Quality mainstream characters have more dimention to them and are more endearing, which totally makes them more sexy. And let's be honest- someone is eventually going to draw them naked. lol
>> Ehhh..... !N2Rn3IpqO2
>>426846
Evidently, you can't even understand things when they've been spelled out for you step by step. I don't know, maybe you just have a hard time with linguistic comprehension, and you have my pity for it. What you seem to be failing to understand is that I have no opinion on the subject you're discussing. I'm not sure if you're the initial "artist" that I responded to or not, but I do have a problem with him, insofar as he showed himself to be both stupid and attention whoring, and I do have a problem with you, in that you have done the same. If blockheads like you, or even intelligent people, want to dish out advice to would-be artists, they, and those they were trying to advise, would be better served by giving their tips on forums designed for such. This thread will be gone before the end of tomorrow. By the end of the week, nobody's going to remember five sixths of it. By the end of the month, one, maybe two will remember it existed, and they not without a reminder.

My point is that you're wasting your time here. If you want to make some kind of impact, do so at a place designed as a community for growing would-be artists.

Yes, I'm being hypocritical, but my point in posting here is less instructional and more for the sake of my entertainment, so I'm clearly edging you out in sense. Now shoo. I don't know, go back to DA and immerse yourself in the company of all those other talentless hacks.
>> you're pathetic Anonymous
>>427050
Like he said- Cry more you fucking suck. You're the only attention whore around here. You're so obviously hell bent on stopping people from listening to anyone but you. Loser.