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So, western art anyone? Jack of Spades
DO NOT POST WESTERN ART HERE!

I was just wondering if anyone else thinks there should be a board for western art. I don't understand why this topic gets people so mad, although I can understand why the mods don't want it, and thought maybe having a section to post western art would help clear this up.
>> Anonymous
You're stupid. Take it to discussion.
>> Anonymous
Op, is that camel? Or who?
>> Anonymous
yes...
>> Anonymous
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Thats what I thought.

On topic now, posting western art on a hentai board is like eating burger king food in mcdonalds. You CAN do it, but don't expect to not get your ass kicked if someone notices it.

So many weeaboo artists go trough /d/ unnoticed as western, but would posting a realism drawing Jap's work get deleted?
>> Anonymous
>>908450
realism =/= hentai, so I'd assume that it would result in ban, as per the mod post.
>> Anonymous
There shouldn't be a separate board for western art, it should simply be posted along with japanese art right here because there is no reason to treat them differently if you're not a gigantic weeaboo faggot. Same goes for furry art, by the way.
>> Anonymous
>>908455
Hold on here. Western art is one thing but furry is quite another.......
>> Anonymous
I think the western art thing was the least of /d/ problems LIKE THE BOARD BEING /r/ FOR JAPANESE PORN, FURRY SHIT BEING POSTED AND THE GENERAL LOL I DDIN'T READ THE RULEZ BUT I LIKE CUTE GURO WITH ICECREAM( you won't get that without having seen the picture from a few days ago, man was that awful)
>> Anonymous
So this is quite a dilemma. New updates have happned on gts-shrinker uploader.. and ONE of them is quite on topic. http://gs-uploader.jpn.org/documents/mm/1a.png
(note this board is a place where Camel and others hang out, heavily GTS-centered, japanese upload board) my question is, would posting that here be b&?

tl;dr furryjapanesegtsartfromjapanesesity=b& or no? just a question
>> Anonymous
>>908471
also this doesn't necesarily pertain to my interests, i;m just curious as to weather it would be b& or not.
>> What about Dmitry and the others? Anonymous
This is a copypasta of>>908472in case you haven't seen it yet.

What about our comrades Dmitry and other good artists like him? Their work can be classified as "western", so are they subject to B& hammer when they post in this board?

/copypasta
>> Anonymous
>>908471
furry is autoban in all forms on 4chan
>> Anonymous
>>908481
Furry's allowed on /b/. Also I've never seen Furry banned on /r9k/, the other /b/.

Also, how the hell do you auto-ban an entire image subject?

Anyway, a better definition of "western art" would be nice, because I see western-influenced or even western-made /d/ all the time and no one ever complains. Especially around monster-* threads.
>> Anonymous
>>908514
/b/ has no rules
of course its exempt and r9k is just b2

I meant autoban as in it won't get your post deleted as a warning you'll be seriously banned
>> Anonymous
i dont get this at all, from what i saw western art, as in the not compleat shit noral kind but the japaniese emulateing kind was allowed, or at the veryleast tolerated, and from what i could tell un moderated
>> Anonymous
>>908433
/d/ is not for discussion
Sage and hypocritical sage
>>908478
Yes. Dmitrys has been banned/chased off plenty of times. Honestly, his website is whored off enough that nobody shouldn't be able to find his work, should they choose to search for it.
>>908514
>Furry's allowed on /b/.
(RIP Snacks)
To your question: "western" means "western-styled."
As long as the art appears to be done in a hentai (Japanese) style, the actual nationality of the artist probably won't matter.
If you believe the content falls into a gray area, it's best to avoid posting it or be cautious about posting it (i.e. don't crapflood just because you don't agree with or understand the rules).
>> Ehhh.....
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>>908450
Well, why don't we try an experiment. I have a tentacle pic by Yoshitaka Amano—the guy who did the art and character designs for the original FFs—, whose style, while certainly non-realistic, is also equally far removed from animu. Mods?
>> Anonymous
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>>908581
Then what are thses text boxes next to the goddamn picture are there for? This maybe an imageboard but it is a forum none of the less. If moot wanted it to be pure imageboard, you would only have to put the sauce in the header with the pic and that would be it but moot doesn't play that kind of faggotry. Anything /d/ related is acceptable here otherwise it goes to /b/, not just limited to "SAUCE, MOAR, NAME, etc, etc.". if you cannot stand to have discourse getting in the way of you fapping in your mother's basement then GTFO and go somewhere else. Oh and countering your sage faggot.
>> Anonymous
>>908455

It's about quality. Sure, there are shitty japanese artists, but the vast majority of stuff you bother to save is professionally done. The same CANNOT be said about western art.
>> Anonymous
I noticed the mod deleted my thread then decided not to revise the rules to clarify what is and isn't allowed. Typical. I hope this site just fucking dies already. The mods are responsible for the bullshit userbase full of trolls because they refuse to clarify issues.
>> Anonymous
>>908581
>Yes. Dmitrys has been banned/chased off plenty of times.
Yeah but then we don't get to see the cool sketches, sometimes the sketches even have stuff the final image doesn't that are hot as fuck.

>>908514
>Anyway, a better definition of "western art" would be nice

I agree. MODS PLEASE CLARIFY THE RULES MODS PLEASE CLARIFY THE RULES MODS PLEASE CLARIFY THE RULES MODS PLEASE CLARIFY THE RULES MODS PLEASE CLARIFY THE RULES MODS PLEASE CLARIFY THE RULES MODS PLEASE CLARIFY THE RULES MODS PLEASE CLARIFY THE RULES
>> Anonymous
>>909233CLARIFY THE RULES

They're already crystal clear if you aren't a retard.
>> Anonymous
>>908972

Bad example, tentacles always counts as hentai by default. Because how much western tentacle rape is there?

I think what is/isn't allowed generally goes on style. To the point that posting western-style art done by a Japanese artist will not be allowed.
>> Anonymous
Go to 7chan if you don't want arbitrary improperly defined rules.
>> Anonymous
>>909241
4chan dude.....
>> Anonymous
>>909241
>/d/ - Hentai/Alternative
"Alternative" images including: futanari, bondage, tentacles, etc. are welcome. Caveats below.
Images depicting bestiality, guro, or generally seen to be "extreme" in nature are not to be uploaded.

Where oh fucking where does it say anything about western art?
>> Anonymous
>>909222
lies. TONS of jap art is extremely shitty, and most of it looks like some robot just did an ugly color-by-numbers with big eyes.
>> Anonymous
>>909244
theres lots of "western" tentacle art out there, you retard, unless you just tautologically redefine "tentacle" to mean non-western.

the whole western art thing is retarded. Fucking weeaboos.
>> Anonymous
>>908972
i think someone has to report u in order 2 be banned for it (and i'm not gonna do that)
>> Anonymous
>>909233
NO WESTERN ART. No comic books. If it LOOKS western = no. If it's drawn BY a western = no (IE: dmitrys and kamitora.) IF IT'S IN ANY WAY WESTERN IN APPEARANCE OR BY AUTHOR = NO. How clear do you need it?
>> Anonymous
>>909296
>If it's drawn BY a western

There's some western anime artists that you wouldn't know they're western unless someone told you. If the style is eastern enough, is it acceptable?
>> Anonymous
>>909300
If you dress like a woman and no one notices, does it matter?

Naw, just kidding. No one really gives a shit if you don't announce it. It'll probably still be reported if someone notices a signature or something.
>> Anonymous
>>909300
No, because the xenophobic weeaboo faggots on this site are too fragile of mind to handle the concept that they may just actually enjoy eastern style art by a western artist. They are too busy worshipping the japanese to handle that kind of paradox.
>> Anonymous
I can personally now say that I fully understand the hatred toward weeaboos now. Illogical faggotry at it's finest.
>> Anonymous
>>909307
I don't think 'weeaboo' has anything to do with it. It's been the rules here forever. 4chan was made for Japanese media, not "what I feel like." If it goes against YOUR taste, it's a free internet...make your own image board or visit one of the millions elsewhere.

Sage for tired of bumping older than internet argument.
>> Anonymous
ITT: people call other people weeaboos, even though they themselves ARE ON 4CHAN, on a board called HENTAI.
>> Anonymous
>>909304
I really want to see some Japanese artist draw in a western style and watch 4channers fap and praise it.
Then again, it's actually been done a few times I think. There's been cases of Japanese art that looks more Western-cartoony, but weeaboos excuse it because it was drawn by a Japanese, so it MUST be anime.
>> sage Anonymous
Sage for *wah wah*
Honestly, it's a free image board. What do you expect?
>> Anonymous
Let's face it: on the whole, hot anime babes are a turn on and crappy Spongebob-style drawings are not.

I'll fap to a lot of things, but it just kills my mood to see Kim Possible or Disney crap in the middle of other stuff. I'm sure most people here can agree with that.
>> Footsoldier
Go to 7chan if you care that much. They have a board for porn comics.
>> Anonymous
>>909335

Which is a fucking strawman argument since no one here are defending stuff like that. It only gets dredged up as a slippery-slope fallacy, that if we somehow allow stuff made by people not from Japan we'll eventually have to accept crap like Spongebob and Rugrats getting it on.

If you actually paid attention all WoW/Kim Possible etc. stuff gets saged by pretty much everyone, even those who are down with some western art.
>> Anonymous
>>909329
Learn to sage.
>> Sage Anonymous
I'm doing it wrong
>> Anonymous
>>908455
>there is no reason to treat them differently if you're not a gigantic weeaboo faggot.
>> Anonymous
>>909214
While discussion/hypothetical questioning may be appropriate on certain boards, the highlight of the pornographic boards is the pornography. As such, hypothetical questioning and ranting is unacceptable. For a discussion to take place, there must be content to discuss (eg. talking about a new ero-anime). There are boards already dedicated to discussion and suggestions if that is the sole purpose of the post.
Content allows viewers to have something to look at and focus on other than a boring, unrelated, and poorly written wall of text.

It's not hard to find a defining line between hentai and western shit, if you actually look. Stop being butthurt for a minute and you'll see it.
>> Anonymous
>>909642
>It's not hard to find a defining line between hentai and western shit, if you actually look. Stop being butthurt for a minute and you'll see it.

bullshit. Its impossible for a definite line to exist in art (even say picasso's blue period, which is widely recognized is only canon because people have randomly agreed what the line is, and certain pieces still get debated). Unless you want to pull some arbitrary designation out of your ass, there's no way to seperate it, except maybe to say "i know it when i see it", which is bullshit.

>It's been the rules here forever.
except its not ACTUALLY in the rules, and 4chan has moved far far beyond a weeaboo board. is /ck/ ONLY japanese food? is /sp/ ONLY japanese sports? is /b/ ONLY random japanese stuff? No. Fuck, japan is relagated to its own board these days. Western art has been minimally moderated on /d/ for a long damn time. I'm something of a weeaboo (nihongo wa hanasemasen!), but this is pretty ridiculous and retarded. Mootykins, get in here and fix this!

I mean, sweet jesus "hentai" doesn't even MEAN "japanese erotic art", it just means "erotic art".
>> Ehhh.....
>>909681
I would once again like to point out that, actually, while ?? does not mean Japanese pornographic art, "hentai," as used in the English-speaking world, does.
>> Anonymous
>>909689
ehh.... no. See webster's:

>Main Entry: hentai
>Part of Speech: n
>Definition: sexually explicit animation or comics

hell google it and the second image is a pic of the beauty (from the beauty and the beast) getting porked by her father. That claim is totally false.
>> Anonymous
Can anybody explain to me why MOD want to ban western art all sudden ?
>> Anonymous
>>909715
because mods are corrupt induviduals who have personal agendas just like the rest of us...

Mods =/= Hero figures
>> Anonymous
>>909642

<<It's not hard to find a defining line between hentai and western shit, if you actually look. Stop being butthurt for a minute and you'll see it.>>

Tell that to Dimitrys asshat.
>> Anonymous
Eastern shit
looks like it came from japan

western shit
looks like it's not from japan

END
>> Anonymous
>>909296
if you do that then you miss out on a lot of good artists, like the aforementioned Dmitrys and Kamitora. check out bookstores, there are tons of american made manga that are awesome quality. ther are tons more of incredible indy comics. why should we cut ourselves off from some great stuff just because of some shallow stereotype? I mean, isn't this why we are reading japanese comics in the first place? because we got sick of the standard superhero bullshit Marvel and DC cram down people's throats? WTF. the victims of racism are more racist than their persecutors.

the "No western art" rule should be applied to vomit like Dexter screwing the Powerpuff girls, or Family Guy porn. that shit isn't hot, and no one likes it. that's the shit that needs to be banned, not quality stuff like Dmitrys
>> Anonymous
At one point I seem to remember it being said that western artists are prohibited because everything posted on this or any other imageboard is unauthorized and thus potentially susceptible to a copyright claim. Japanese art does not have an American copyright, and thus is a legal grey-area, but there have been enough butthurt American artists threatening lawsuits against 4chan that it is simply easier to blanket ban all artists' works whose creators have the potential to be or become whiny bitches with the law.

Also, 4chan was originally created as the English version of the Japanese 2ch website and thus is inherently centered around that sort of mentality. Combine the two, and shake with the fact that it's entertaining to piss off people as easily pissed off as some of the "weeaboo faggots!!!" posters in this thread, and there you have it.

Oh, and sage for discussion in /d/ - POST MORE PICTURES!
>> Anonymous
Well. Let's see the western art board or your rules can get fucked. =D POST AND POST AND POST. Btw, you're not /d/ if you can't fap to discussion. Get the fuck out.
>> Anonymous
>>909737

You can't make any exceptions to the rule or else people will just keep posting DA bullshit some 11 year old scribbled up for lulz. It's easier to just ban western stuff altogether.
>> Anonymous
>>909265
Main folder Hentai
Sub folder Alternative.
All rules that apply to Main folder Hentai, apply to Sub folder Alternative.

is that clear?
>> Anonymous
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Who needs discussion when you have sausage?
>> Anonymous
Sorry for the bump, but I just have to ask. Art like Gary roberts stuff, that's definitely /d/ material, is it not?
>> Anonymous
>>910063
His name is Gary Roberts, so if you don't know who he is, then straight away it's a No

Second, it's "/d/" content but it's western art so No
>> Anonymous
Yes, I would very much like a /d/-like thing with western.
Might not be as active without all the weeabos ... :P
>> The Britfag
If you look on the Imageboards text board there is discussion about a western-themed /d/

Moot reads the text board, so either he missed that thread and nobody has asked him, or he thinks it's retarded. Just go to 7chan for western art like I do
>> Anonymous
>>909902
/d/ is not a sub-board of /h/. lurk more.
>> Anonymous
Catch all
http://www.anonib.com/_monster/
>> Anonymous
>>910149

According to the mods it is.
According to the users it is not.
>> Anonymous
how do you get to 7chan?
>> Anonymous
This is plain stupid. Not counting western cartoon style, and crappy amateur art on either end, what is wrong with a slightly more realistic style in a board intended to cater to the obscure?

This "Japanese superiority" bullshit is taken way too far.
>> Anonymous
>>910167
7chan is dead recently. Otherwise google knows the magic link ;)

>>910182
Agreed. But maybe because I prefer western.
>> Anonymous
>>910167

You don't. The mods pulled the plug on it because they were unable to keep 4channers out of their /b/.
>> Ehhh.....
>>909696
Actually, the definitive record of the English language is the Oxford English Dictionary. Webster's has no more authority on the subject than I do. More people will believe them, of course, but, personally, I'd rather go with the guy who's been fapping to hentai for some ten years now over any dictionary that likely does minimal research into the interpretation of the group of people most intimately connected to the subject matter.

Eh, I'd offer a definition from the OED, but I don't have a recent edition. And I'm not even sure the most recent edition has the word in it.
>> Anonymous
>>910195
>I'd rather go with the guy who's been fapping to hentai for some ten years now over any dictionary

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>> Ehhh.....
>>910197
Because qualifications mean absolutely nothing.
>> Anonymous
>>908433
It gets people mad because most of the people in the hentai sections are japan-o-philes. How anyone could ever be turned on by anime porn is beyond me. Most of it is drawn so terribly.
>> Anonymous
Saging a useless thread.
>> Anonymous
>>910277
8/10
that was actually damn clever
>> Anonymous
>>910205
They mean people will believe you. And isn't all that matters what the people think. Anyway, "it says Hentai so no western art" is a stupid argument.
>> Anonymous
Ahh.. Racisim against the white man.

Pleasent, yes?