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dusty heaven...cheater! Anonymous
coincidence? i think not
>> Anonymous
art imitates life... and improves(?) it.
>> Anonymous
You got any idea how many artists use references when drawing? Quite a few if they work realistically....
>> Anonymous
thats not really a reference... more like a re-color with a peepee
>> Anonymous
You're all faggots.
>> Anonymous
>>300195

Its not "to use reference". Using references is not copying, it is to use photos and models to se 3d proportion, and produce someting similar.

What he done is decaling (copying). The problem in it is because is it generally an uninspired shadow of its source.

As for your question, almost all good drawer use references. But just a few copy it.
>> Crimsonjassic
I used to do that a lot back in the day. It's good training, but I find that people tend to hate you more when you straight up rip off a photo like that. It's tough to ween yourself away from that, too as it takes out most of the guesswork out of drawing. =/

While I really wouldn't call it "cheating" I'd say it has less artistic value than a drawing of similar quality created with no ref.
>> Anonymous
Pay me fifty dollars and I'll pretend to care.
>> Anonymous
Can anyone tell me the name of this model?

MUST HAVE TEH SAUCE o_O
>> Anonymous
>>300210

You can't see 3D proportion by looking at a photograph.

Photograph = 2D
Live model = 3D
>> Anonymous
>>300225

Hey, THE crimsonjassic! Love your work.
>> Anonymous
XD, Crimson's a 4channer.

I wasn't aware of this.
>> Anonymous
>>300256

Well... I can. But you I doubt it...

Just use your poor mind and you will be able to
>> Anonymous
>>300256

What are you? a Xerox copy machine?
>> Anonymous
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Not the op but...
>> Anonymous
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and...
>> Anonymous
>>300182
Almost looks like he traced the dang thing... even the hair is the same
>> Anonymous
>>300283
she
>> Anonymous
>>300288
SHE!? Well hows about that.
>> Anonymous
>>300288
Dusty Heaven is a woman? No. Fucking. Way.
>> Anonymous
If so, that would explain a lot.
Women don't have skills of their own.
>> Anonymous
Don't really see the problem, he/she took a boring photo and turned it into something hot... as long as the artwork isn't all traced a few doesn't matter, always tracing will just inhibit developement of skills...
>> Anonymous
Only real problem I see is if the artist is basing any of these drawings off of underage models then we suddenly have child porn, at least in the US. A drawing based off of a real underage model is the same as a photograph under the law.

Other than that, this stuff is still much better than shopping a penis on a photo.
>> Anonymous
you still need alot of skill in order to trace that well.

I would like to see any of you guys with limited art skills to do the same thing at the same level.
>> Anonymous
Why would you waste your time matching up all those images? Who cares, he/she draws women with penises. It's not a threat to anyone.

It's not like the art is that great to begin with.
>> Anonymous
Why would this anger you if you're getting it for free?
>> Anonymous
Why would it matter how she draws her pics. As long as she's not tracing, I could care less. Her pics, though maybe a copy of a photo, are still hot regardless. What? Would you rather have her quit drawing just because she is using photos? Yeah, copying from photos does have it's artistic limits, but the artist's skills are still good regardless. Just be happy; if she wants to limit herself to the use of photos then let her; as long as she is using her own skill (ie. not tracing) I could particularly care less. Call me shallow if you want.
>> Anonymous
1) If s/he can draw alot of their stuff freehand on their own accord, creat their own characters and then make fanart of their own they can easily reproduce a photograph to edit to their liking, that's what they teach you how to do in 8th grade here

2) You have people ooogling Rei and Asuka and other characters of that age group, dood they're 14 too so why is that not child porn? and also, if an image of an underaged person (if that person is underage) is then edited I think its possible, dare say, viable that the age can be tweaked to 18 easily if it was even a problem.

3) Has J.J put out anything new recently?
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I want to see the model pose for this one !
>> Anonymous
J.J. hasn't put out anything good in months IMO.
It's all the same boring unsexy pose after another. I'm beginning to wonder why s/he bothers anymore.
J.J's earlier stuff was far more fun.
>> fukken sage'd
ITT we bitch about free porn by assigning a need for artistic integrity to pictures of women with big fat cocks that we use to masturbate.
>> Anonymous
>>300195

There are a few artists that a damn good and don't use 'reference' anymore. Reference is good for practicing and stuff but it becomes a crutch when the artist relies on it.
>> Anonymous
Actually, most good artists don't use reference, at least not to this degree. At most, they use reference to get ideas.

Personally, I think this artist sucks.
>> Anonymous
Let it die already.

Artist copies. Big fucking deal. Either you like the shit or you don't. LET IT DIE.
>> Anonymous
>>300951

Dittio, although personally, if the internet drama continues, oh well...no problem by me.
>> Anonymous
>>300938


I would like to know what is a "good artist" for you. Of course all good artist use references in some way or another, unless they want to draw generic anime crap.

>>300294

Kengo Yonekura, Naruko Hanaharu and Yukimi say you are wrong.
>> PicsPro
This is a realy moot point considering some of you copy the pics from their sites only to post them up on your own or on site such as this to be passed around. Atleast when an artist uses another outline they add something to it that makes it there own. Just plain coping and posting it else where does not make you the owner or creator. So all you haters can piss off.
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>>300182
hmm...
>> Anonymous
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>>300281
This one had me wondering..
>> Anonymous
IT IS CONFIRMED. JJ COPIES.

DISCUSSION ENDED.
>> Anonymous
You'll be hard-pressed to find something you can legally do in the US. It's not even worth mentioning
>> Anonymous
>>300182
wait there's a difference... the one on the left doesn't have a penis
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>> Chan-somesuch
this topic is the best ever

Look, it's like this. The artist has a style, and don't pretend that putting precise pencil strokes in place without all the crap and imprecise lines you see in most artowork is "easy." It's a chore and takes hours.

Also, the teacher/desk image doesn't match up precisely. The artist is probably using these as a reference while drawing, but not tracing over them. Big difference - stuff goes in the same spots, mostly, but the final art has the artist's own sense of proportion (yes, really, the DH version of the teacher pic cuts down on her torso height) and style.

Besides, photo manipulations are even lamer.
>> Anonymous
>>301105
whoah who is the chick on the left? the one who he drew with the penis. She's really hot, regardless of who's genitalia she has.
>> Anonymous
>>301112

Read the name and the filename.
>> Anonymous
oh its the tatu chick? there went MY interest.
>> Anonymous
>>300202
Speaks the truth.
>> Anonymous
Its porn not art, it dosent fucking matter if you copy...
>> Anonymous
THIS THREAD BLOWS MY FUCKING MIND.
>> Anonymous
>>300195
>>300196
>>300281

Paint over.
Goto eatpoo / conceptart.
Broaden your mind.


>>300202

Fag.
Let's have some mansex while reading /d/!
Broaden your anus.