File :-(, x, )
Anonymous
Futa self-impregnation
>> Anonymous
     File :-(, x)
>> Anonymous
     File :-(, x)
Almost impossible, never try it yourself...
>> Anonymous
     File :-(, x)
>> Anonymous
I dont think it possible.
>> Anonymous
>>898417

From my understanding, we have the chromosomes that make us who we are. Hair colour, eye colour, etc.
And we have a set of dormant ones, which is why some traits skip a generation or two.

So it's entirely possible that if we were someone able to self-impregnate, our offspring would look reasonably different.
They'd still be fucked up somehow, though.
>> Anonymous
>>898424

Yes, but closed gene pools always result in people looking similar. The same will happen with all humans on a much grander scale. Give it a million years and every human being will be almost exactly the same as one another. Slightly dark skin, fairly dark brown hair, dark brown eyes, connected earlobes, wavy hair, long eyelashes, strong jaw line, etc.

WE ARE DOOMED TO BE CLONES.
>> Anonymous
>>898425
It's called cloning
>> Anonymous
>>898424

i'd have to disagree there, though i wouldn't doubt there would be some cases of incest, but for the most part the population of japan has always been pretty large, plus the influx of chinese and korean and other asian immigrants into the country would account of some physical similarities. though on the whole, everyone in depending on the region looks similar, because we all share the same genetic code, just tweeked minorly here and there. environment and habitual surrounding dictate a lot of what someone looks like. (i.e africans are black due to the large amount of sunlight they recieve over the millions of years, same goes for people in the middle east, Japanese and the like have much paler skin due impart to the little amount of sun over a given thousand of years or so due to large storms and cloud cover the the distance from the equator,etc.)
>> Anonymous
>>898425

Among animal breeders, there's something called an inbreeding coefficient. parent-child and brother-sister is 1/4, while half-siblings are 1/8, first cousins are 1/16, etc. Self-impregnation results in an IC of 1/2, so from a genetic standpoint it's WORSE than brother-sister incest.
>> Anonymous
>>898435
wrong about the color, the human is too racist, it's sad but minorities will be eliminated, only the caucasians and maybe asians mix will remain.
>> Anonymous
>>898439
You forget that japaneses lived closed on their island for many centuries and at these times, they weren't as many as today. And they must had a custom to marry a sibling like cousins.
>> Anonymous
>>898406
Asking for epic sauce!
>> Anonymous
     File :-(, x)
>> Anonymous
>>898435

That only assumes no random mutations and completely homogenous environments, neither of which apply. So you'd have people of one area look slightly different from people in another area, and some people will have mutated, etc.

It's really not possible for a population of humanity's size to become homogenous after any length of time.
>> fetish sponge !8.L5bN30V.
I just spent 20 minutes typing up an answer to this only to accidentally click in the wrong place and have it all go away, now I'm sad. I'll retype a short version.
genes come in sets of 2, 1 from each parent. if you have 1 dominant and 1 recessive you have a 50% chance of giving your... self spawn 1 dominant and 1 recessive gene, and a 25% chance of giving them a double recessive, likewise a 25% chance of giving them a double dominant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominance_relationship
most genetic mutations that haven't been bred out yet (unless someone slept with the mutated person) are the result of a combination of at least 2 sets of double recessive genes. if you have one the likelihood of finding someone outside your family with 1 is minuscule, though within your family it is greater. if you have 1 parent with 1 dominant and 1 recessive gene you have a 50% chance of having a single recessive gene. theres a 25% chance that both you and a sibling would have a single recessive gene each. you then have a 25% chance of having a child with a double recessive gene, coming to a grand total of 6.25%. and thats only 1 set, if you have to have 2 sets of double recessive genes it would be 6.25% of 6.25%, or just under 0.4%. at least for sibling incest.
and thats all based on the assumption that your parents had 2 specific recessive genes between them. the real danger is when its done for generations at a time the chance increases exponentially.
if you're talking about the chances of passing that on to a spawn to which you have contributed all of your genes, well 25% that you pass on 1 double recessive, and another 25% that you pass on the second one, so a total of a 6.25% chance.

now I almost want to start getting into which types of genetics could pass futaism along, but most of you have stopped reading by now anyway.

tl;dr chances of you and a sibling having a mutant 0.4%
chances of a futa having a mutant with themselves 6.25%
>> Anonymous
>>898376
genetically self impregnation is not possible
>> fetish sponge !8.L5bN30V.
>>898463
that doesn't go with my admittedly limited knowledge of genetics. assuming that futas were XX chromosomes, of course.
>> Anonymous
>>898406
>>898450

Source?
>> Anonymous
why are people getting into an inteligent argument about a fictional idea?

i think we are missing the point here
>> fetish sponge !8.L5bN30V.
>>898485
because its 1:20 in the morning and I've been up for ~33 hours. I can no longer get it up, nor can I sleep. so I aimlessly wander the internets in search of places to ramble.
>> Anonymous
>>898496
Go to bed, tard. You will sleep after a short while.
>> Anonymous
too much science and not enough self impregnation
>> Anonymous
>>898406
Need source.
>> Anonymous
>>898406
>>898450
OMG SOURCE?!
>> 1
>>898450


It LOOKS like another volume of Unreal, but as to which one, you can't be sure
>> Anonymous
I wouldn't mind a source on all four posted.
>> Anonymous
>>899145
Thanks for the name, I just found it in vol. 10.
>> Anonymous
Self impregnation...super incest?
>> Anonymous
>>898403

any chance someone can upload the complete thing? only pieces of the whole manga on rapid
>> Anonymous
bump for rapid link rapid search is down
>> Anonymous
Did anyone say "think with portals" yet?
>> Anonymous
     File :-(, x)
Less discussion, moar kink
>> Anonymous
>>899184
Selfcest
>> Hanyuu !idEHer.XPI
>>898450
sauce?
>> Anonymous
>>898461
the odds a clone being a futa are superior, cuz thats how it works
>> fetish sponge !8.L5bN30V.
>>900031
ummm, a clone has the same dna, if a futa had its own child the dna would be like 75% the same, but not exactly. gb2 7th grade biology
>> Anonymous
need moar on this subject, pref translated manga!
>> Anonymous
bump
>> Eponymous !RYpZ/TNwKk
Some female lizards can spontaneously give birth to female offspring. It's called parthenogenesis. Look it up.
>> Anonymous
>>898425
Not quite how it works.

>>898461
The problem with Mendel's model (the pea plant I'm sure you've heard of, as you seem to have knowledge of basic genetics) is that the dominant/recessive relation is not a particularly common one. There are several human genes that do follow that pattern, but the vast majority are better described as co-dominant. In these cases both chromosomes that carry that gene contribute to the end effect (blood groups are the traditional example of this).

I've kind of lost interest in writing this, so I'm just going to get to the gist of it. Self-impregnation, assuming you're producing viable gametes (sperm/egg with the right number of the right chromosomes) is entirely possible. It is likely to result in the same problems that incest causes, and may be more likely to do so.

>>900032
75% identical on average. The actual DNA similarity would be anywhere from 50-100% (ignoring mutations).
>> Anonymous
how the fuck does a vagina get that loose???
>> Anonymous
>>901323
I'd say it's impossible, but since seeing that .gif of a guy sticking his head into one, I'm not so sure.
>> Anonymous
>>898450NEED SOURCE!!
>> Anonymous
     File :-(, x)
>> Anonymous
>>898403
I've tried this, Balls get in the way just enough so it doesn't work, at least for me.
>> fetish sponge !8.L5bN30V.
>>901318
>75% identical on average. The actual DNA similarity would be anywhere from 50-100% (ignoring mutations).
there were people here who thought that it was impossible for a hermaphrodite to impregnate itself (which happens in nature all the time, mostly with lower level aquatic life), I was afraid of getting into an argument about statistics so I decided to just say 75%.
>> Anonymous
bump
>> Anonymous
>>901362
Check out some vids of Mint from Ladyboy69.
>> Anonymous
This debate turned intelligent toward the end so far, so instead of ragging on the idiots in the thread I'm gonna hypothersize.

1. it ain't incest unless you also happen to be your own relative due to inbreeding or messed up legal documents.

2. In nonfantasy futa of the fertile variety, experience with known sexual irregularities would suggest that futa carry what I call a Z chromosome that either results in futa for ZZ, ZX, and ZY or ZZ and ZX. I say Z arbitrarily and the term merely indicates that an irregular combination in X and Y chromosomes won't result in dual fertility, but for one or both chromosomes to mutate far enough to create a fertile futa it wiuld go iutside of something deserving an X or Y description. Also, Z was next.

3. Theoretically possible and a likely future evolution if evolution is true since it is harder for a species to go extinct when it can recover from a population of one.

4. I have spent many an hour contemplating fictional genetics

5. It is much easier to imagine getting it in the vagina if you first realize you could get the tip in while it is soft if you have a long enough penis
>> Anonymous
>>902810

So what the odds on all the wincest stuff?
>> Anonymous
There are documented cases of self fertilization in nature. Granted the specific cases all involve plantlife.

Simply put however all that is required in the scenario of self fertilization is viable sperm and viable ova. If they come in contact with each other, you got fertilization, end of story.