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To the females of /d/, There's always a male to female thread and guys wanted to turn into girls normally believing the sex to feel better. I was wondering if the reverse is also true and you've had a strong desire to turn into a male sometimes believing the sex is better or something.

Also male to female thread
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>>1160632To the females of /d/

AH HA HA HA HA HA HA
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>> shmifty5
>>1160632
im not female myself but i have heard of females wanting have a penis, i think its just the same for them as it is for us, we all just want to try it but no buy it
>> Anonymous
Body Transfer was an awesome hentai based on this exact subject matter. I would like some more input from other anons on this.
>> Anonymous
i really hate making shameless requests, but this time it's relevant: does anyone know the name of that one doujin where the main character is a guy who hates women and gets turned into a woman and raped on a train? i had it a while back, but lost it to a format.
>> Anonymous
Weeeelll
I suppose I'll put it this way. There are times when my overwhelming adoration of some female friends makes me wish I were a guy.
Normally, though, I wish I could have a penis and retain my femininity(futa, basically) so I could assfuck future boyfriends. I'd like to have the opportunity to be dominant in that way; and I'm sure it would be a much different experience than regular pegging.
I'm an odd individual though.
>> shmifty5
>>1160668
sounds like it
>> Anonymous
I mean strapping on a fake one and doing that is kinda the same thing and some people enjoy that. However, what about being in a boys body while still having your female mindset (knowing you were once female). How would you react to that? and Males vice versu for you
>> Anonymous
>>1160660
http://rapidshare.com/files/121179521/perverted_girl.zip
>> shmifty5
>>1160699
it depends, if it was a set amount of time in a female body i think i could cope to that rather quickly, if it was an eternal thing i would probably kill myself or fall into a depression because who i was no longer exists, it would prolly be like dieing
>> Sigmund Freud
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Please, do continue. My thorough research on the presence of penis envy in yaoi fanfiction requires further evidence.
>> shmifty5
>>1160708
freud was the biggest fraud of all time, he was freakin insane, brilliant but insane
>> Anonymous
>>1160699
That would be interesting...but not the same as retaining femininity. I don't consider myself gay, so if I were male and took on a guy it would be all kinds of confusing. Enjoyable still, but confusing. I wouldn't want to do that for very long--maybe if it was an on and off/occasional thing but not permanently by any means.
>> Anonymous
If I could transform into a beautiful woman for a day or something... I would spend the entire time masturbating. Then I would go out and rape some people. Mostly women, probably some men.

The perfect crime. When I turn back, who are the cops looking for? A curvy brunette with long legs. No one suspects my fat be-dicked ass.

Uhh... maybe that's not the best way to phrase that. Then again, considering my borderline-gay semi-desire to let men fuck my hot female self, perhaps it's just a self-fulfilling double entendre.

This has become awkward for me.
>> Anonymous
I have absolutely no desire to be a man or have a penis. At all. The penis kind of grosses me out in real life. I have no problem reading about it, but pictures or an actual naked guy in front of me just skeeves me out. Even thinking about guys having them, when I hang around my guy friends, makes me uncomfortable. I like my vagina, thanks.
>> shmifty5
>>1160731
your a perfect example of why freud is wrong about his theories involved with the oedipus complex, he believed all women wanted a penis and all men feared them, rock on you
>> Sigmund Freud
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>>1160735
Disproving evidence, or an extreme mental block to a desire for a cock so ravenous that she could not withstand the sheer overwhelming yearning for possession of one?
>> shmifty5
>>1160749
it could indeed also be this, but to have that imense a mental block she would have to have been severally mistreated or even abused by a male, i doubt this happened tho
>> Anonymous
>>1160749
No, Freud. No. The penis just looks gross, and the idea of having any sort of ... *thing* where my vagina used to be is unpleasant and unwanted. And, I forgot to add, not a lesbian (although I've had a crush on a girl once or twice) -- just very turned off by the penis. I only let my boyfriend have sex with me in the dark and I refuse to look below his waist when he's naked or hadr.
>> Anonymous
>>1160756

Maybe your boyfriend just has a gross dick.
>> shmifty5
>>1160756
well then, i asume you weren't abused as a child in whuich case i was rigth and you are an example of the oedipus complex being wrong
>> Anonymous
>>1160668
Can I get your number? ^_^
>> Anonymous
>>1160759
>>1160758
Orrr you could ignore when I said all penises look gross to me. And nope, not abused as a child. I do not want a penis. Sorry, guys, it's just... not that great.
>> Anonymous
I have dreams of having a penis. I once was dreaming that I was a guy for a day and I masturbated.
In fact, despite the fact that I know it will never happen, I already have my day planned just in case.
First, I will go outside and piss in the bushes. Next, I will masturbate. Then, I will convince my roommate to let me fuck her. Finally, weather permitting, I will travel to the mountains to write my name in the snow. After that, I suppose more fucking. Also blowjob.
>> Anonymous
>>1160771
> will travel to the mountains to write my name in the snow.

awesome
>> shmifty5
>>1160769
oh yeah! i won against freud, take that freud!
>> Anonymous
>>1160769

All right, fair enough.

Do you like vaginas in general, then, or just your own?
>> Anonymous
It's not so much believing that the sex is better for the guy. I just want to see what it feels like for the guy. I know how I feel and like to be touched. I would like to see what it's like for a guy... Just once.
>> Anonymous
>>1160632
Hey. Female /d/eviant here. That's the only time I've said that, and the hopefully only time I ever will.
Just as it's true for some guys, it's true for some girls. I'm one of them. It's almost a fetish of mine, this penis envy, I suppose; one of my greatest fantasies is to have a penis.
Why? Lots of reasons. I love the penis; I think it's actually quite pretty, and I love how it throbs and grows. Seeing men masturbate is amazing, and I've always wanted to do that myself. Female bits are too complicated, too messy for me... I love how straight-forward and easy to please men get to be.
tl;dr Yeah. I would love to be a guy (although being able to keep the breasts would be awesome, so saying I'd love to be a dickgirl/herm would be more appropriate). You guys have it so freaking easy.
And, yeah, if this ever did happen I would totally just masturbate all day. I can't get anywhere with this freaking picky clit, anyway.

Back into anonymity I go, unless there's any questions.
>> Anonymous
>>1160779
If by "like" vagina you mean I have no problem looking at real life vaginas (mine or someone else's, in pictures, since I've never had a girlfriend) and they don't gross me/the idea of someone else having a vagina doesn't gross me out.
>> shmifty5
>>1160788
you actually just proved that i lost to freud again, but i wonder why you think us guys have an easier time with our genitals, they have alot of emotional hassle asociated with them, its not fun to see an attractive girl and get a hard on at school or the mall its really embarrassing for me, that said i think the vagina would be a more physically messy genital but it would carry alot less emotional baggage, i guess neither gender is better or easier, but all that said i would never trade my penis for a vagina
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>>1160776
The concept of repressed memory pivots on the loss of highly relevant memories that have led to unaccounted-for behaviors, in this case the refusal to accept the normally biologically natural human female urge to show interest in male genitalia. The lack of interest to the extreme point of revulsion presupposes the loss of natural tendencies, therefore requiring an intervening experience to have taken place so crushing that she has no recollection of said event.
>> Anonymous
>>1160798
I would much rather take the occasional embarrassment for having masturbation being as easy as tugging up and down. Even my own clit is too difficult for me to decipher, and I'm over twenty years of age! Perhaps my desire to have a penis is stemmed from my inability to feel pleasure, at least not nearly as much pleasure as the men I'm surrounded by? That alone causes so much emotional baggage; I feel so inadequate to everyone around me (male and female).
While I'm here, though, are there any other mangas similar to Sei So Tsui Dan Sha in plot? Stuff's hot.
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>> shmifty5
>>1160811
hmm, isee what your saying here but if she has no recollection of said traumatic event then she must have put up an imense mental barrier, but she would have noticed feelings of hate for the individual who caused said trauma, but if she has no feelings of ill will toward any close childhood male then she most likely wasn't traumatized, also she would have a vague recollection of said event even if she had blocked it, i guess we will never know whether or not she is an anomaly or another statistic without any sort of psychological evalutaion, i call a truess
>> shmifty5
>>1160817
well actually male masturbation can and most often does need a little more than just pulling up and down, i usually have to use several different strokes and grips before i can get off, and male masturbation is still treated by name calling and trauma where im from, if a girl masturbates its sexy if a guy does it hes desperate
>> Anonymous
the point isn't "beating" Freud, but his idea that EVERY female wants a penis is ridiculous. Some girls do, some girls don't. Simple as that, guys.
>> C h a n
>>1160823
Mandy's a dyke? I knew it.
>> C h a n
>>1160836
why must you try to simplify to the point of absurdity

everybody likes cake, but do I have a cake right now?
>> shmifty5
>>1160837
lol
>>1160836
i just wanna beat freud into admitting hes just a crazy coke head
>> Anonymous
protip: guys have poopers, a situational vagina. feels great, you can cum from it, contracts and all that good stuff.

being a guy is awesome. we can fuck and be fucked yay.
>> Anonymous
>>1160838
...What? How can you be that confused?
>> shmifty5
>>1160841
yes, yes we can, but if we wanna get fucked we have to be either gay or bi or raped, for girls they go the best of it they can fuck and be fucked and still be straight
>> C h a n
>>1160841
come to think of it, you can have an argasm with:

-penis
-anus (I SEEN THIS DONE - I think :O)
-prostate

that said, girls does have micropenis and can also anus ogrem, so it kinda evens out a little.
>> Anonymous
>>1160731
Guy here. Absolutely agree with you. Why have all that junk outside of you when it could be internalized into a nice, neat package.

Of course, if both sexes were designed that way, we'd have to come up with a more efficient attachment/transfer method... Hmm...
>>1160788
To me, masturbating with a vagina seems much more simpler. Seems is the key word here. In truth, it's probably pretty simple on both ends, though we can get more complex with it.

Overall, I'm not too fond of the penis. I've had my moments where I could find its aesthetic beauty, but overall the vagina is a much more neat design.
>> Anonymous
>>1160836
Sigmund Freud dude here.

The whole point of that whole string was, his entire argument hinges on shit so vague that it can't be proven or disproven in any real way. On logic grounds, you can only ever hope to call a truce, and the only thing that "detracts" from the argument other than the inability to test the hypothesis is the common social view that it's "ridiculous."

Which, again, he could easily write off as all due to mental blocking.

His premise was that people block out true understanding of their baser instincts because that knowledge would be too much for them to consciously handle.
>> shmifty5
>>1160848
well also the vaginal walls themselves can provide feelings of happy, our shaft doesn't really contribute much to our orgasm, and anus orgasm can be achieved but its rather lengthy from what i heard
>> C h a n
>>1160859
You would be happiest as a box on a shelf, it seems.

Also, they already do call it the "package" !
>> Anonymous
>>1160731
haha you dont come to /d/ much do you? the board where everything has a penis. but it is interesting that you would say that, i very much understand what you mean.

straight male
likes sex
but vaginas are sort of gross sometimes...
>> Anonymous
>>1160843
its still straight if your gal uses a strap-on, no?

though the chances of finding a girl open to that are slimmer than the chances of winning the lottery. also, you assume a girl can use a strapon in your post without "being gay", i just assumed the inverse.

ps - being gay is awesome. most women suck.
>> shmifty5
>>1160860
oh, so i can never win against freuds logic...my dreams are shattered, i shall fap to get my happy back
>> Anonymous
>>1160848
err no...

girls have: clit (for sexual use only) and a g-spot inside the vagina which can help in a vaginal orgasm. there's nothing in girl's butts that will make them orgasm from anal stimulation only.
>> Anonymous
>>1160860His premise was that people block out true understanding of their baser instincts because that knowledge would be too much for them to consciously handle.
And that's why we're here trying to undo that blocking?
>> Anonymous
>>1160859
Hentai makes it seem like it's easy, but in reality most women don't actually get any real pleasure just from having something stuck inside them. It's a complicated dance between the clitoris, random stimulation elsewhere, and trying to keep your mind on only sexual things.
I've spent hours without really getting anywhere- you know, just to get to the point, I'm over twenty and never had an orgasm. I'm not on happy terms with my lower region.
I have a steady boyfriend and I've practiced all the male stimulation tactics on him that I get to. It's so damn fun, and I'm rather jealous.
>> Anonymous
>>1160862
>well also the vaginal walls themselves can provide feelings of happy, our shaft doesn't really contribute much to our orgasm, and anus orgasm can be achieved but its rather lengthy from what i heard

You know how long it takes girls to cum? Some are so out of touch with their bodies that they can't cum at all.
>> shmifty5
>>1160868
well actually the anal muscles around the sphincter can have a sexual effect, but these muscles only feel the happy when something is removed from them insertion has no effect on the feelings of these muscles
>> C h a n
>>1160868
UH YEz

orgasm is a mental state according to many, after all ;O
>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
>>1160868
I think he was referring to males.

>>1160866
They're more common than you think... it's finding girls that are quick to admitting they're open to that that'd be hard to find. But chicks do like to hump, especially those into positions of power.
>> Anonymous
>>1160868
on paper thats true, but supposedly the gspot can be stimulated through the walls of the rectum. the female body is quite an oddity though, the right girl at the right time of her cycle can reach orgasm simply through nipple play, and like the nipple, the anus has many nerve endings that can lead to pleasure
>> shmifty5
>>1160874
i have heard of such a phenomena but i also it can be reversed through a minor surgical procedure which can actually be deemed non superficial, ask your doctor about such things he should have more answers, note: the procedure i mentioned was being performed in england when i heard about it
>> Anonymous
>>1160878
I'll have to check that out; thanks!
>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
Dyke here. I generally find penises to be quite ugly, though oddly I can tolerate them better in cartoon form than seeing photos/videos, but nevertheless, I admit to idly speculating about being male, since it would in some ways make life easier for me. The problem is (aside from the fact that I'm generally happy with who I am now), I don't really like to take the lead in relationships, which is the socially accepted position of the male in heterosexual relationships. My last three girlfriends have all been "bisexual," and all three have expected me to be the big dominant dyke, and I'm just a little uncomfortable in the role.

tl;dr - Not interested primarily for social reasons, but physically it might be interesting to feel what vaginal penetration with a penis is like.
>> Anonymous
>>1160874
i thought the same thing until i witnessed a girl sit on my lap, masterbate, and cum in under two minutes. holy shit that was amazing
>> shmifty5
>>1160893
many females say the same thing, its mostly about the physical feelings that such genitals can provide
>> Anonymous
>>1160817

According to my research into the subject (through watching porn) you have to get a lesbian to teach you.
>> Anonymous
Anyone saying the female g spot can be reached rectally needs to take a course in anatomy, please, cause - ouch.
>> shmifty5
>>1160907
well not so much reached as stimulated, pulses can travel through flesh rather easily and stimulation of the G-Spot can be attained rectally without much if any pain
>> Anonymous
>>1160896
protip: she was faking it
>> Anonymous
I wish I was a girl sometimes, they seem to get things in life a bit easier, at least until they lose their looks.

They don't have to approach guys, guys have to approach them, they get the upper hand by default. Shit's retarded, they can get a free ride just by exploiting the fact that they're the pretty half of the population.

Hell, they can even have multiple orgasms, and if they have the least semblence of a brain can ride the PC train to get nearly any job they fucking want.
>> Anonymous
>>1160917
If a guy was fucking her and she came that quickly, I'd agree, but women in the right mood can come pretty damn quickly.
>> Anonymous
>>1160949
>if they have the least semblence of a brain can ride the PC train to get nearly any job they fucking want.

Not to suddenly become the local feminazi or whatever, but that's seriously not true, especially as women get older and more "unattractive;" opportunities get really difficult to come by really quickly. Some disciplines are better, some are worse, but there are a lot of places where women aren't treated as seriously.
>> shmifty5
>>1160949
i agree, there is several such cases of sexual dimorphism in how each gender is treated, just because they are female, such as in comedy, if a man makes a joke at women its more than likely hes gonna get some heavy hate mail or worse, yet if a woman makes fun of us males we just take it in stride there is no male rights movement there is no male-ecoactivicts (there is a group of female only ecoactivicts) this kind of treatment of the male race has continued for many years and most likely continue for many more after that
>> shmifty5
>>1160963
note: iam not against femal rights i just believe they have taken things far to far
>> Anonymous
>>1160949
hahahahhaha

please don't be serious.

Guys are still the "leaders" in the world. I can't go to some countries without bringing along a guy friend, for fear of being attacked or being treated like shit. If I wear a skirt, I'm a tease/slut, if I wear pants, I'm "unwomanly." If I eat in public, I have to eat ~daintily~ because heaven forbid a girl decide to order a big meal. I've had jobs where I was basically expected to dress sexy and put up with unwanted flirtation if I wanted to get ahead, simply because I'm a girl. Once I get older, I'll be SOL.

Does this PC train charge more for girls to get on? Because I know I make much less than my male counterparts, who do the same BS I do at work.

Girls have so much pressure to look beautiful *all the time* -- if you don't put on make-up, dress up decently, etc, when you go out, you're looked at oddly or asked "oh were you in a rush this morning?" We're supposed to "put on our face" every morning, whereas guys can shower, brush their hair, throw on some clothes and be fine.
>> Anonymous
Have a period, a baby, or get told that you're getting paid less then the guy next to you because 'you belong in the kitchen.' Then try to tell me men have it fucking worse then women do.
>> Anonymous
>>1160974
I know, bitches should stay in the kitchen and make sandwiches, instead of wanting to get treated equally.
>> Anonymous
>>1160974
Not gonna RAGE, but until you've experienced office life as a woman, you really shouldn't make the claim that feminism has been taken too far.

Which is not to say that there aren't certain branches of feminists who DON'T try to take it too far, but that equality is nowhere near achieved.
>> shmifty5
whoa, when did this /d/iscussion turn into a hate fest, bot genders are treated unfairly and woman have always ben put into the "beautiful" role for a long time, man have been cast into the "neanderthal" role for far to long, we can both agree that each sex is treated unfairly but hate isn't going to further this /d/iscussion
>> shmifty5
>>1160985
*both *remove always *been =men

and i tend to agree with feminists, in nature the male has to work for the females attention whereas we as a species have cast females into the role of males and males into the role of females, its rather odd eh?
>> shmifty5
>>1160987
*change = to *
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>>1160985
Yeah, you're right. Leaving it alone now.

Though I will say that most people have the wrong idea about feminism. It's not just about "trying to get more rights for women." Generally feminists try to combat gender-discrimination in all its forms. We see the social construction of Masculinity as destructive to males the same way the social ideal of Femininity is destructive to females.

Ugh, too much fucking serious shit. Let me post some damn content.
>> shmifty5
>>1160990
yay
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>> Anonymous
this is the most interesting thread I've seen on a porn board in months
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>> shmifty5
>>1160994
i agree, the most fascinating topics always arise here on /d/
>> Anonymous
either or, it would be interesting, but I'm not filled w/ overwhelming desire or anything
and if i had penis but female mindset i wouldn't find females attractive, so what's the use
>> Anonymous
>>1160990We see the social construction of Masculinity as destructive to males the same way the social ideal of Femininity is destructive to females.
Well, there are good ideas in both, but ultimately their design leads to a harsh polarization based solely on what you're born with.
>> Anonymous
>>1160997

yeah, I used to see this kind of thing on /e/ but not recently.

i wouldn't say I'd want to be permanently female but it would certainly be something interesting to try. futa would be interesting as well. i suppose i'd be interested in guys as a female or futa but really am not into it otherwise.
>> Anonymous
Beliv it r not, I'm a girl and I'm bisexual. When I'm with other girls, sometimes I want to be a man, have penis and stuff, not like futa, but just to fuck then better, give them more pleasure than just my fingers
>> Anonymous
Sex for guys is better.

We just want to see what having titties is like.
>> Anonymous
>>1161040
Can't blame ya'. It's pretty freaking awesome.
Except for how you're constantly getting your shirt dirty while eating 'cause they block the way to the lap.
>> Anonymous
>>1161045
But then you have a perfect excuse to lick them dry.
>> Anonymous
>>1161047
True; at least, true when shirts aren't involved.
Having big enough tits that you can lick them yourself makes things so interesting, especially if you have a partner that enjoys a good show and there's plenty of chocolate sauce and whipped cream around.
>> Anonymous
>>1161052
Damnit I wish I had big, round tits. :<
>> Anonymous
>>1161054
Or just big enough to do what you mentioned.
>> Anonymous
>>1160978
>>1160977

It's a catch 22, really. I hear women make sexist comments all the time. One young woman I knew at college would use the excuse "I'm a girl." I'm sorry, that doesn't fly with me. If you want true equality, quit using that phrase and accept responsibility.

This society has too many double standards. There is the double standard between whites and blacks, a double standard between men and women, etc. We will never reach true equality unless these double standards are eliminated and people are held accountable equally.
>> shmifty5
tits are definatly fun...unless they are man tits, then they just fail
>> shmifty5
>>1161057
yes but we only have these double standards in now adays society because we as a species are not following the rules placed by nature, and because we invented many horrible and asanine things such as religion, slavery, and murder, until we can eliminate these things such double standards will take precedent and we as a people need to make our opinion that these things just don't belong
>> Anonymous
>>1161066
how have humans invented murder?
>> shmifty5
>>1161072
no ther species on the planet will kill another just for the fun of it, animals kill each other only for a good reason, whether it be territory or food, we kill not for territory or food we kill for the fun of it
>> The Internet !!ah8/N6BK5nH
>>1161072
It's in the bible. Oh shit! Circular reasoning!
>> Anonymous
We invented the concept that it was wrong, I suppose.

Personally I'd love to have a penis and try getting fucked up the ass while being sucked off or fucking someone else. That is so hot.

But I'll change back because I like my multiple orgasms.
>> The Internet !!ah8/N6BK5nH
>>1161074
Watch a video of killer whales hunting seals sometime. Tell me they're not having fun.
>> shmifty5
>>1161078
well killer whales kill seals by tossing them around, it only looks like a game to us, and they only kill seals for food
>> Anonymous
>>1161074
Certain species of monkeys have been known to kill for pretty much the same reasons as humans.
>> Anonymous
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>>1161074

You goddamn liar. stfu and stop making shit up, you don't know a fucking thing about nature.
>> Anonymous
>>1161082
jesus christ youre stupid. if they are playing with their food, i.e. taunting it or humiliating it, then theyre not doing it just for survival any more, are they?
>> shmifty5
>>1161087
yeah but monkey are evolving along the same evolutionary scheme as we have, monkeys often pick up their behaviour from humans and human interference.
>>1161088
im guessing you don't know much about zoology or animal psychology
>> shmifty5
>>1161092
they don't taunt, or play with their food, they are percise killing machines and expert hunters
>> Anonymous
>>1161092
good example: a cat and a mouse. the cat knows that it will kill the mouse. yet it chooses to "play with its food" and let the rat try to escape. you cant say that its just a hunting tactic, because no animal will let its prey go just to catch it again unless theyre having fun.
>> Anonymous
>>1161096
i really fucking hope youre a troll.
>> shmifty5
>>1161099
well you have to remeber that cats (pet cats) have no need to hunt anymore, they have been humanized and rely on us for food, mousers and feral cats hunt in order to kill house cats treat a mouse as a toy
>> The Internet !!ah8/N6BK5nH
>>1161099
Which is why cats are awesome. Most humanlike creature in terms of playfulness, laziness, and cruelty.
>> shmifty5
>>1161102
nope, just someone trying to clear some misunderstandings up
>> Anonymous
>>1161093
schmifty5, please stop. Some of us have studied (to a greater or lesser extent) animal behavior, and it's clear you're making some assumptions based on little formal study. If this topic interests you, I suggest you take some college courses or purchase some books written on the topic, but your arguments betray a great deal of ignorance.
>> Anonymous
>>1161105
YOU ARE SO FUCKING DUMB
>> shmifty5
>>1161109
first off you misspelled my name, secondly you don't ned to be a genius or a colledge student to understand aspects to nature and have a higher understanding of the world around us
>> shmifty5
>>1161110
care to explain you topic further?
>> Anonymous
>>1161113
no. if i were exposed to any more of your stupidity i would go hoarse from yelling. fuck off and good day.
>> shmifty5
>>1161116
okie doke
>> Anonymous
>>1161111
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/3323070/Killer-dolphins-baffle-marine-experts.html

Read plox.
>> Anonymous
>>1161111
I was trying to be polite, but...

First off, I don't really give a rat's ass about how your name is spelled. Second, there are people who spend their lives studying certain natural phenomenon, and to discount their studies because you believe you have some ability "to understand aspects to nature and have a higher understanding of the world around us" by sitting at home and making unresearched conjectures is the height of ignorance, and betrays the same sort of thinking that spawns the unquestioning religious doctrine you hold such contempt for. You simply do not have the worldly experience to make claims about the nature of the world, and reject suggestions that you should learn rather than assume to possess such knowledge. No doubt you will continue to feel smug superiority, but there's a damn good reason why most of the people here have taken to calling you stupid, and it's because your ignorance is FUCKING OBVIOUS. Educate yourself!
>> Anonymous
>>1161057

I posted this. All I have to say is that the argument that stemmed from it is highly amusing. As the folks from /tg/ would say: Just as planned.

Also, big cats in Africa will kill the cubs of other big cats, and this ain't for food. That's just cold blooded murder to prevent competition. Still think murder is a human invention?
>> thx for the pwnage Anonymous
>>1161119

Marry me.
>> Anonymous
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45pZyomwsns
>> shmifty5
>>1161119
i never said that i discounted these "animal murders" but my point still stands that we invented murder (we kill because we do it for fun all of these "murders" you guys throw at me seem to have some sort of meaning and a reason.
>>1161118
it says in the article that the scientists still don't fulll understand the reasons behind these attacks.
>>1161120
by preventing competition they themselves are killing for a reason.

and i end this by "correcting" my initial statement, we invented senseless murder, happy now, god some people rage over the smallest points these days, rage doesn't belong in a /d/iscussion no matter the subjetc
>> Anonymous
>>1161126

Now you're just being naive.
>> Anonymous
>>1161126
No, you're still an ignorant fool who believes himself wise, and as long as you continue to defend yourself rather than recognizing your own errors, you will continue to be so. YOU, and no one else, have killed this thread. I'm done here.
>> shmifty5
>>1161132
whoa buddy, i admitted i was wrong and corrected my initial statement
>> Anonymous
>>1161126

I'm sure that if someone goes out and kills someone else, they have a very good reason, and it is not senseless to them. There may be a reason, but since we perceive the world differently than someone who goes out and kills people, we can't see those reasons.
>> Anonymous
Er. I'm kind of gender variant. Except I want to keep my girl junk.

Does this count?
>> Anonymous
>>1161132

Actually, I think the thread was on its way to death when someone brought up sexism.
>> shmifty5
>>1161138
i suppose so, but if you did change what would you change if you wanted to keep you junk?
>> The Internet !!ah8/N6BK5nH
>>1161126
Fucking just shut up. Nobody else here is supporting your argument, and all you're doing is repeating anti-humanistic theories. You sound like you were raised by hippies, and you type like you're 14.

While /d/ is an open forum for /d/iscussions, they should be related to the forum topic. Alternative/hentai. You've derailed this thread from being an exploration of the different sensations experienced between men and women and the desires to experience those sensations felt by the other side, into an ultra-liberal, everything wrong with society, bitchfest.

Just drop it already. You're not going to convince anyone to change their views, because you're not open minded enough to walk someone around into your way of thinking.

To everyone else, even if Schmiddy here doesn't know it, he's trolling you. Please stop bumping this failshit and let's get back to more enjoyable things. As much as we would like to prove this guy wrong and make him realize it, he's to dense to do so.
>> shmifty5
i did drop it, see my last post fucktard
>> Anonymous
>>1161144

Oh, you did not just mess with The Internet. You're fucked.
>> shmifty5
>>1161145
fuck the internet
>> Anonymous
Actually, man DID invent murder, but not because of the half assed explaination that was given by the shamfifty guy.

Murder, by definition, is an act of malice, ill intent to the victim punctuated by taking their life. We are capable of it because we are homo sapiens sapiens, thinking thinking man. We are able to not only think but take a step back and examine how we think, and why we think. One of those how's and why's are the mal-intent that a murderer has, his motive for commiting the act of taking a life for no natural gain.
>> shmifty5
>>1161148
thank you, its shmifty5 btw, this is what i meant
>> Anonymous
>>1161149

No, shamfifty, its not what you meant. You have no idea what you meant. You are a bottom feeding child minded mongoloid who is unfit to breath for your vile verbal diarrhea. Go back to school and shut the fuck up.
>> Anonymous
>>1161148

We don't know for certain whether or not we're the only species capable of this kind of self evaluation. We don't know anything for certain. It is only a matter of how we perceive the world. I don't know if how I perceive the world is real.
>> shmifty5
>>1161155
you do know what a mongoloid is right? but on any point you guys seem to want to continue this "bitch fest"
>> Anonymous
>>1161158

bitchfest? I was being philosophical and deep. I thought the ladies appreciated men with depth.
>> Anonymous
>>1161156

While this is true, my assertions are based on the evidence presented before me. Thus far man has yet to encounter another species capable of the same level of measurable cognitive thought.
>> Anonymous
     File :-(, x)
So, uh, what was the topic again?
Hmn...
>> Anonymous
>>1161149
You weren't thinking anything of the sort. Maybe if you had the least bit of education, you could have come up with a sensible argument like this. I mean, I'm still pretty well convinced he/she's wrong, but at least an argument with this anon would be less like trying to teach a sack of potatoes to orgasm.
>> Anonymous
>>1161159

Shammy, your mom is calling, she wants you to lick her asshole while she powerlevels her death knight!
>> shmifty5
>>1161162
kind of a weird way to end a sentence, but anyways im a little busy here sorry for not going to dictionary.com and finding the right words to use
>> Anonymous
>>1161141

Take hormones to make myself androgynous, basically. Possibly have top surgery. I haven't made it that far yet.
>> Anonymous
>>1161160

That, my friends is the scientific method. We draw conclusions based on observations. How I perceive the world is different from how everyone else perceives the world. And that brings us back to the topic. How do I know if a woman perceives the world the same way I perceive the world. I think it is different, but I do not know for certain, and I will never know for certain. I can however, make conjectures based on how women describe their experiences.
>> Anonymous
>>1161169

Bigendered here.

...What. Dude, are you serious? Really? I've got _tits_ and I don't understand or feel a lof the the things girly girls do. You can't simplify gender experience to that degree.
>> Anonymous
>>1161169
I don't really see any oversimplifications here, honestly, so much as an expression of curiosity.
>> Anonymous
>>1161187
Well if you're bigendered you wouldn't feel the full experience of being a woman. Clashing hormones, different physiology, etc.

Now is this natural or artificially created bigendered here?
>> Anonymous
>>1161200

Artificially.
>> Anonymous
>>1161169

Very true. And now we are not only in agreement, we have returned to the original topic at hand. Good show, sir. Good show indeed.

See what a little bit simple rational thought process can accomplish, shamfifty?
>> Anonymous
>>1161206

Er, by which I meant to say that yes, I was born a girl, and no, I never had a "normal" girl experience regardless. You don't have to be born intersexed to not have the same emotions, outlook, or even experiences of your biological sex.
>> Anonymous
>>1161210
By which I'm sure you don't mean to suggest that the members of a given gender "class" necessarily share some homogenous experience.
>> Anonymous
anyone have the link to tg mangas on wordpress?
>> shmifty5
>>1161209
i do indeed
>> Anonymous
>>1161212

Absolutely not, I meant to suggest the exact opposite. My point was that regardless of how anyone identifies and regardless of sex different people have different physiologies, different upbringing...

The variables are as such that assuming all girls have a separate and distinct life and or sexual experience from all men is just ludicrious.

Personally - as much as anecdotal evidence is unreliable - I have 100% been the initiator of all of the sexual activity I've engaged in. I'm sexually threatened by the idea of being penetrated, I do not have a desire for procreation whatsoever, I'm a comittophobe... a lot of the behaviors people would normally associate with male sexuality seem normal to me. I'm not claiming to be a man on the inside because honestly I don't believe in the idea that there are merely two genders. I'm a person, not male or female.
>> Anonymous
>>1161223
That's cool. As a (mostly) feminine lesbian I can totally respect that. Maybe in 20 years we'll start to see this attitude become more commonplace in mainstream society.

Probably not, but I can be optimistic, can't I?
>> shmifty5
>>1161228
nothing wrong with being optimistic
>> Anonymous
>>1161214
Germany took them down.
>> Anonymous
>>1160990

SAUCE PLZ!
>> ~D~
>>1160788
>I can't get anywhere with this freaking picky clit, anyway.
Try this: Hitachi Magic Wand
It actually does the trick, if you are 'wired' in that way.
>> Anonymous
     File :-(, x)
>> Anonymous
This is along the same lines of the discussion, but I've found (in my limited sexual expeirence) that generally I'm the most excited by making the woman I'm having sex with excited. Getting a blow job really does not do it for me without "foreplay" as it were. I've never classified myself as either sub or dom, maybe slightly more submissive, but really completely in the middle. I like the idea of the woman being the aggressor, but when it gets into the sex I'm all about being the one making her happy, instead of asking her to do all the work. And for the whole male to female thing, I've always kinda wanted to try it out, just so I could spend the entire day masturbating, but I really don't have any strong desire to be a woman, I like leveraging the things I have as a man to provide pleasure to myself and my partner. I do think women get a leg up on options for dressing though, men just have different kinds of pants and shirts, not much variation. I'd really like to take a girl and just dress her up in different outfits just to see :3
>> Anonymous
>>1161328
Sauce?
>> shmifty5
>>1161406
ive noticed alot of people using masturbation as a reason to try a gender swap (provided tis for a limited amount of time), i know for a fact that i would masturbate, anyone else curious as to why this phenomena occurs?
>> Anonymous
>>1160632

Is a biological/medical scientifically proven fact that females are able to climax way more often and more vigorously than males. The catch is they need foreplay and more stimulation than men to come...
>> Anonymous
>>1160632
Absolutely. I am so jealous of the prostate, it's hard to describe. It takes forever to get wet, even if I'm turned on, while my boyfriend wakes up wonderfully hard and ready to just get harder. It's also hard to have the patience to keep stimulating myself until I come, since by the time I'm wet enough to have some penetrative fun, I'm a bit tired.
Futa would obviously be the best of both worlds, but I would totally go for the full male experience if I had a chance
. I would get my cock sucked by the best whore I could buy and they would swallow it all when I came buckets.

I have pictures somewhere where I drew my boyfriend & myself gender-swapped (though the same proportionate heights, so his girl self was a bit of a giantess) just don't remember where the fuck I saved them.

Now I can't stop thinking about how much I want a cock.
>> Iris !tFj8DP0Frs
>>1161553
Quoted for truth. I'd become a guy if no futa option were available.
>> Anonymous
Man, this thread got back on topic before I could make some comment about how awesome it would be to be the opposite sex.
>> Anonymous
>>1160668
I love to meet a girl like you, sadly I doubt I ever will v_v
>> Anonymous
>>1161675
If you did, she wouldn't like you, because no one likes the kind of person who would reply to an 12 hour old post just to whine about their own life.
>> Anonymous
>>1161675
*I'd* Sorry about that.
>> ~D~
>>1161675
Just go out and meet women.
They are like snow flakes. No two are alike!
And forget the bars. I've never met anyone worthwile at a bar scene.

Keep on searching for the soul mate, or at least something close.

Life is full of suprises, and she might be just around the next bend. But you'll miss her while you are sitting in front of your computer!
>> ~D~
     File :-(, x)
>>1161438
No source, but I have another from the same set
>> ~D~
     File :-(, x)
Not a magical transformation, but sort of on topic.
>> ~D~
     File :-(, x)
>> ~D~
     File :-(, x)
Glued into a lady suit.
>> Anonymous
>>1161438
I'm pretty sure it's Po-Ju
>> ­
>>1161700

I would contest that. 75% of women are, in my opinion, identical in outlook, just like 75% of men are. You may have slightly different habits and other learned traits like how you laugh or what food you like, but when it comes down to it, there's always a group of people that you appear almost identical against and a vast majority of people in any given society will fit that mould. The only different people are on here. They're on here because they're different.
>> Anonymous
>>1161700
If not at a bar, then where would you recommend meeting a women, especially one who is /d/ minded?
>> Anonymous
>>1161209

Your praise in unnecessary.
>> Anonymous
>>1161715Source??
>> Anonymous
Name + RS on this?
>> Anonymous
     File :-(, x)
>>1161700

Nuh-uh. I met my partner online.

Granted, it wasn't on 4chan. She's more of a goon.
>> Anonymous
>>1161780
Go to college.
>> Anonymous
>>1162023
My dear boy, no matter how much you love women, there's no woman in this world worth going to college for.
>> Anonymous
>>1162026
Oh, no; I'm one of the chicks from before.
Being in college lets you meet girls (and guys) with similar interests and goals. Trust me, it's the best place to find a "soul mate." Of course, going to college just to meet girls is an awful idea, but if you're already in college or about to be then it's a good time to keep your eyes open and learn to be more social.
>> Anonymous
>>1162046

You know, people always said that to me. Three years in, I'm a little jaded.
>> Anonymous
>>1162046
Well, you're probably right that the chances of finding what I'm looking for there is among the highest, but my own problem is that I have currently no plans of going into that kind of education again.
>> Anonymous
>>1161712
somebody should start a (forced) girlsuit thread


also, is it just me or is she sewing onto his skin?
>> Anonymous
cool, some pics I havent seen yet. I ACTUALLY found new material.
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> Anonymous
>>1160756
Yes you are a lesbian in my book!
>> Anonymous
     File :-(, x)
Shut it Freud.

Also I goto college. Halp me find wimminz.
>> Anonymous
>>1161553
That's some idealized crap about about guys. A) getting hard is completely separate from horniness and sexual desire B) your completely overlooking the quick post ejaculate come down, that removes all physical desire for 5 to 10 min. Worst in worst case scenario is being supper horny both mentally and physically and then coming to quick loosing all sexual desire but still not satisfied mental. Then having to wait and never having the horniness levels you desire return and more sex becomes a chore and takes just as long as you would as a woman, but lacks any of the satisfaction.
Now think about that, plus a prostate is a poor substitute for a G-spot.
>> Anonymous
>>1162244
The b part especially sucks, because sometimes you want to hold a thought, maybe something you were playing out in your head, but after the fantasy had its way it becomes harder to hold on to, to where you really have to struggle to close it right.

You really cool off right after you cum. It sucks.
>> Anonymous
>>1160668
I wish I knew a girl like this in real life.
>> Anonymous
NEED FUCKING PICS.
>> Anonymous
>>1162244
>>1162392

Completely true. and I thought I was the only one who had this kind of problem.
>> Anonymous
>>1162046
It's true, college is a good place to meet a large variety of women. Expensive too.

BTW: Has anyone here EVER met someone at a bar that turned into a lasting relationship?
The only time I ever did well at a bar, I hooked up with a friend of the friend (who was there all the time). That one girl was there just for a birthday party or whatever the occassion. We hit it off pretty good.

I have no problem talking to women. I'm not a great looking guy, but I can talk to just about anyone about anything.
Don't act like you are looking to get laid. Just try for some conversation.
If you have a brain in your head, the girls, if you haven't creeped them out, will usually say something back.
I guess it depends where you are in the world too.
I went to L.A. and the girls there were downright rude in person.
But in the middle of nowhere, I did okay.

I had cool dog too. A white german shepard. He was a total chick magnet. Everyone wanted to pet him.

I have discovered, in this world, there are cat people and dog people.
And never the two shall meet.
My wife was a cat person. But she finally accepted the dog. We have been together for a long time now, and she still talks about bring a cat into the house. She'll never change!

Anywho.. I guess you can meet women on line.
There is yahoo personels and lots of places like that.
My sister met a couple of guys via yahoo. It's pretty easy to do.
>> Anonymous
moar art, less talk
>> Anonymous
>>1161040

Agreed, for the most part. I'm male, would love to have a pair of juicy tits. After I got tits, I'd probably dress up in feminine clothing.

Don't want to give up my penis though. NOOOO WAY
>> Anonymous
hi i am female nice to meet you.

Right, so.
Well, yeah, I'd like to become a guy and fuck some girls. Why?
Because girls are hot when they're pleasured. No way to get around that.
And to pleasure a girl, you have to fuck them. And lesbians are typically gross. (Remember, I'm female and straight, I'm not into the whole femdom/futa/what have you. I'm passive because I like to see passive girls.)

PS: I skipped reading all of your Freud talk up there, sorry.
>> Anonymous
I'm female and have always wished I could transform from male to female at will. Not as a tranny thing. Only for sexual purposes. Or even better: become a futa. That would be fuckwin.
>> Anonymous
Am female.
HAVE thought about the apparent effort-less fap that guys seem to possess.

Am I wrong?