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basicly anything is a request, if you make a theam specific theread you are asking for more of that theam, posting pictures of an artist is a call for more pics of that artist.

for what its worth i dont see a difference between someone posting a theam thread and someone posting asking for more picks a source or a rapidshare
>> Anonymous
i agree
plus, there's nothing wrong with wanting to know information and links. otherwise, 4chan wouldn't exist.
>> Anonymous
I think if you say, "ITT *requested item*" and then post a few examples (aka sharing what you have instead of just leeching like it's /r/) then you're okay. Stop being obtuse and post pr0n, dammit.
>> Anonymous
so basicly if you arent a complaeat ass about saying something like "whats the source now TORRENT IT" or something allong those lines the no requests "rule" isnt enforced even if reported, cause you know there are idiots who report everything that is vaguely agenst the rules
>> Anonymous
i sometimes wonder about those same idiots who do the exact same thing they're reporting, simply because they just GOTTA fap at the latest linda, askray or whatnot.
>> Anonymous
also, could someone please explain to me the difference between "itt, poast guilty gear girls" and "itt, double paizuri, GO!"
the first thread theme got a ban. the second is hypothetical, but you see it all the time. this was in h by the way. but same here to.
>> Anonymous
And noone seems to care /r/ is full of fail and AIDS.
>> Anonymous
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we should also post some pics instead of keeping this a purely text thread.
>> Anonymous
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>>465982
yup, r is the worst. it should be gotten rid of. it does increase the number of request threads that don't share much, but it's alright.
>> Lolicon Anonymous
PLEASE do not post lolicon on the boards under US law this is child pornography and 4chan can be held liable.

IF YOU SEE LOLICON: report it quickly

Lolicon: a depiction of any under developed or childlike subject, not quite correct let it suffice that if they look a little young its probably loli.
>> Anonymous
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i don't like loli shit at all, but i gotta ask this: why is such a huge fuss being made over request threads, when 4chan can be in major trouble because of the massive number of pedo material being posted? priorities, priorities.
<---anti-loli pic
>> Anonymous
>>466000
Nice GET.

Answer-cause the mods have their heads up their asses and ignorwe the real issues
>> Anonymous
>>465984
true this shouldent be a text only thread but it also shouldent degrade into a porn only thread, plus the more porn the more idiots, like the loli people, where was loli mentioned at all in the thread befor they came, this was just about the request rule till they came. in honestly i would like a mods opinion on the request rule, and not the stance of requests go in /r/, i mean the real view on requests, i mean will they ben indiscriminately or do they look at the content of the request to decide if they should be banned for it
>> Anonymous
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>>466000
I can't say officialy because I'm not but the /r thing is just annoying in general because people are turning this into the /r thread which causes thread turnover to skyrocket so nobody really gets to see the theads. As to loli if 4chan were in trouble we would know because 4chan wouldn't be here, the feds are rather draconian about that. But we the anonymous users of 4chan don't want that to happen thats why.
>> Anonymous
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>>466002
you sir, are correct.
>> Anonymous
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>>466004
I don't know it would have been nice if we could have replyed in the stickied thread directly to the mod
>> Anonymous
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>>466005
it can skyrocket, but there's more sharing than that, even if it were to do so. but if you take a look at r, there's practically nothing substantial at all in there. nothing! i've never had my requests answered there. i've had all my requests answered here. i've said stuff like: "moar from this artist" "sauce of pic" "name of artist" "rapidshit or megaupload, merciful anonymous" "moar like this!"
i don't view these as the kind of things that are ban worthy.
>> Anonymous
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and no, i'm not asking for sauce of the pics i'm posting. i know the artist name and such. it's yo dou, and it can be found on rapidsearch.yi.org
>> Anonymous
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>>466014
I happen to agree in princple, but recently I have seen alot of post with pic then /r for the artist. But I know what you mean, I suspect the difference is if you do that in the opening post or the 4th post down as the entire thing is anonymous nobody can tell. I suppose its just a matter of forum manner so to speak. But the mod should clarify ban requirements.
>> Anonymous
Don't post comments on board policy here. Email moot or go to IRC.
>> Anonymous
>>466020
Hi mod!
>> Anonymous
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<--- if mods were girls, this will be their punishment for not getting rid of the pedophiles on 4chan.
>> Anonymous
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>>466025
AMEN!!!
>> Anonymous
>>466020
so what's your opinion?
>> Anonymous
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alright,this thread is becoming EPIC!!! let us gather our collective dislike for mods who don't ban the pedophiles, but ban legit requests!
<---another punishment, if mods were girls
>> Anonymous
>>466020
And that actually does something in which bizzaro universe?
>> Anonymous
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>>466035
he saged the thread
>> Anonymous
A bit of clarification since apparently this is a very difficult idea to grasp.

If you post a request without any related porn material this qualifies as a request and should be posted on /r/. If you post a few pictures and ask for more, this is generally not the same thing and is acceptable.

Lolicon and shotacon are both against the global rules and you will be banned for posting this type of material.

The notice about how to use the reports system was due to users not knowing it exists and instead complaining on the board, accomplishing nothing.
>> Anonymous
>>466033

Stop saying epic, fag. There's nothing epic about this thread.
>> Anonymous
Threads don't need topics. This "ITT" bullshit didn't even start up on 4chan until about a year ago.
Used to be a thread could be three image posts by one guy with no words, and everyone would move on. They didn't become "epic". They didn't require "moar".

You don't need "themes". Just post what you got, and if others like what they see then they will do the same. That's how this board works.

This isn't a fucking forum.
>> Anonymous
PROTIP: Janitors usually don't delete threads as long as the first images are actually central to the "theme" or "request." If you post that fucking rape time macro requesting random /d material, then yes it will be deleted. Just don't post unrelated retard /b images or anything against the rules and it should be fine.
>> Anonymous
>>466037
So, when we don't like the mods decision we should report the mods? Do you think we WANT to be B&?
>> Anonymous
>>466042
please read >>www.4chan.org/rules.php
>> Anonymous
>>466042
the reports system is for when a post is breaking the rules not when you want to whine about something stupid.
>> Anonymous
>>465952
>> Anonymous
on an unrela....err, semi-related note, sauce of OP?
>> ??
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Typical procedure for reporting posts on 4chan:

1: Find hideously against-the-rules content on a board.

2: Report for rule violation or illegal content.

3: See it still there hours later.

4: Facepalm, wonder why someone who apparently never browses the board they're in charge of is in charge of it.

Not that I see much, if any of this, in /d/, but it's par for the fucking course everywhere else.
>> Anonymous
>>466066
it was a recent rapidshare on /d/ sorry but i realy dont know what it was called, and i dont feal like gooing throu over 100 comics just to find this one. sorry, someone else should know it.
>> reply to reply Anonymous
This is an image board, not a discussion board. Email Moot if you think you can accomplish anything, otherwise stop whining about the rules. Most people on this board don't seem to have the same trouble interpreting the rules that you have.
>> Anonymous
This fag mods got me banned becouse i wanted a translation of futabu, only a fag woulnd´t wanth a translation of futabu
>> ??
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>>466124
Quit being a sycophant. You obviously don't know what you're talking about. People are complaining about being banned for minor infarctions (frequently for requests with related images, which in the past had been given the go-ahead in stickies), while pedo shit that's against global rules, is given a carte blanche on too many occasions to make them rare events.

This means that someone's not very good at picking people to simply DELETE posts, much less pass out bans to people who are trying to call down the party van on the chan.

Unless, for instance, /g/ is SUPPOSED to be /muddydicks/ and /sagebombs/.
>> Anonymous
>>466135
I agree that the priorities are fucked, but I'd rather they ban all the fucking requests than do nothing about any of it. Maybe it's just more annoying to those of us who actually try to spend some time in /r/ regularly contributing.

When I spend time looking at porn I don't want the top four threads to be request shit with a single picture and drama replies.
>> Anonymous
I wouldn't have anything against these request rules if /r/ wouldn't be blanatly useless.
>> the_creeper
Less bitching, more bitches.
>> ??
>>466166
Procedure in /r/:

1: Post an image related to what you're looking for, or a thread filling someone else's request.

2: Find your post deleted immediately.

3: Goto 1
>> Anonymous
>>466135
Sauce And Moar Plz
>> Anonymous
>>465952
..sauce?
>> Anonymous
>>465952
/r/ source NAO !!!
>> Anonymous
It's interesting how the last three posts reveal what seems to have become the standard evolution of decent threads here. First come relevant pics and posts, then come less relevant pics and posts, and finally it devolves into requests for the source, more, and eventually excessive exclamation points.
>> Anonymous
>>465952if you make a theam specific theread you >>are asking for more of that theam

your either underage or a moron. are you to brain dead to use the spell check?
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>>466781
You misspelled "you're" and "too" and you failed to capitalize your sentences. That's pitiful, even if you're trying to be ironic.

Incidentally, could someone provide a working definition of shota?

The accompanying pic was chosen at random.
>> Manawolf
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>>466790

Little cocks.

Material with big cocks may also qualify, but it's harder to defend the classification...

Yaknow, FWIW, YMMV.
>> Anonymous
Mods don't read threads. If you have a problem with the rules, email moot.
>> Anonymous
>>466790
Sauce, moar, plox
>> Anonymous
>>466790
shota is with liitle boys, it's as bad as loli
>> Anonymous
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>>466797
And what about loli? Just small/nonexistent breasts?
>> Anonymous !E.dEMgsK2s!!jXu
>>466797
MOAR
>> Manawolf
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>>466867

The lines are both fuzzy I think... if you put a flat chest together w/narrow hips and no pubic hair, you can make a solid case that it's loli.

'course I'm NOT a mod, I'm just sayin' what I think. I don't have a problem with either loli or shota, but it's 4chan's prerogative to dictate what's OK and what's not on their boards, and those are the standards I'd use when deciding what's what. I see borderline stuff all the time... Picture relevant.

>>465990
>>466005

I was under the impression that drawn content wasn't prosecutable anymore. If it's not a photo, it's not child porn... *can o'worms right thar*
>> Anonymous
>>465952
>>466012
>>466025
source?
>> Anonymous
>>466764
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWW
>> Anonymous
>>466912

Pretty sure you're right about non-photographic pornography depicting minors being legal. Also, my understanding of the 4chan rules is that loli/shota is allowed, but only in /b/ (or the shota board for shota.)
>> Globbo !!xMuLVT8IUli
>>466966

Yes. That part of the 1996 Child Pornography and Prevention Act was overturned in 2002 by the U.S. Supreme Court.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?navby=search&court=US&case=/us/000/00%2D795
.html

However, they did *not* overturn the provision of the act that prohibits images created by pasting an underage person's head onto an adult's nude body; that is still illegal under the statute.
>> Loki
>>466912

But she's an elf, just look at those pointy little devils on her head. And as eeeeveryone knows, elves mature veeeery slowly, as they age slowly. She could well be over 500 years old, in fact, I think that one's at least 600; I mean, just look at the pose she's in. That girl knows what to do when faced with an ancient penis worm from the ninety-third dimension that's hell-bent on having some fun.

Sure... by elven standards, she's a loli... but we're not elves... well... mostly not elves... I can't speak for all of the freaks that post here, but I'm at least a fifth Dwarven, I'm sure of it.

Case closed, relax, have a little ale.
>> Anonymous
>>466949
Huh?
>> Anonymous
>>465990
No, actually, under US law, it isn't.
>> Anonymous
>>466983

God Bless the USA for that, even if we can't find the ass end of Iraq with both hands.
>> Manawolf
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>>466978

Kthx! :D
>> Anonymous
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BTW /r/ ALWAY FAIL!
>> Ande
>>466988
>>466983

The things that you're alluding to is Bush's CPPA which the supreme court has already struck down. Basically it makes any depictions of children in states of undress as chargable as real child pornography. Also, and I may be wrong on this, but it can actaully jail someone if the person looks to be under 18, but isn't (in drawings not in real life). This reason this ban on drawing got struck down was because this is a victimless crime, and also, it doesn't fail the Miller test to qualify as obscenity.

The Miller test has three parts to it:

1. Whether the average person, applying contemporary community standards, would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient (sexual) interest

2. Whether the work depicts/describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct or excretory functions specifically defined by applicable state law,

3. Whether the work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary and/or artistic, political, or scientific value.

In other words, from what I've heard, if the picture was drawn, then it apparently it has artistic value, and as a result, is protected. So in short, yes, lolicon is legal in the U.S. Canada however...
>> Anonymous
/r/ has one big fault: if your request isn't seen by the right people, you'll never get something. For argument's sake, let's say you want some picture with /d/ content, but as it is, there are only /b/ /v/ and /h/ people looking at the board plus several other ones that want to make a request on their own. In the end, the thread gets pushed back fast, unnoticed by those who might have had the sauce.

posting /r/ Threads in the boards the request relates to has 3 advantages:

- It get's seen by other people that share common interests and are more likly to have the requested material.

- The thread might come up with more stuff of similar content. Extras are always welcome

- Other users profit from requests by stumbling upon things they might not have encountered if it was posted in /r/

The only REAL downside i see from requests in the corresponding boards are not with the request or requester itself, but with the ones answering to the thread without anything more to say than "GTFO" or "requests go to /r/". Those are the posts that blow those things up. Leave the thread alone unless you are interested in it, or can provide, and it will go down all alone, and disappear eventually. BUT! If a sauce appears, you might profit from it yourself.

Or in easier words:

One person requests something
Ten others get interested
One person delivers sauce
50 persons get sauce
5 people deliver similar content
?????
PROFIT!
>> Globbo !!xMuLVT8IUli
>>467027

The Supreme Court decision, which I linked at>>466978, addresses both the Miller and the Ferber tests. The law might have failed under Miller, but been allowable anyway under Ferber.

Like most SC opinions, it is interesting reading.
>> Anonymous
ok srsly who cares.
>> SMAP
>>467071
The problem being that you can easily get an exponential increase in leeches with no one providing; if the helpful people feel that there aren't others like them also contributing, it's unlikely they'll remain interested in doing so. /r/ exists as a place to shove all of that stuff so that it doesn't have to get looked at on a constant basis.

>>467027
I'm fairly sure it's been established that the Canuck law does not apply to loli in the general sense, only to sex offenders possessing it? I could be remembering wrong. Not that it makes it _right_, but it's less broadly applicable than most people seem to think. And, as much as I may detest lolicon, I think it's a big step towards large-scale government morality controls and censorship, which can only result in Bad Things down the line.

>>466867
Undeveloped chest/waist and lack of pubic hair are the classic signs, but there are plenty of flat, shaved girls who you'd have to stretch the line pretty fair to call loli. The body/face shape is also a major factor, as the "childishness" is strongly affected by those as well. Lolis with tits is not an impossible thing. Of course, the drawing styles of many artists complicate the matter, so I don't think you can draw an absolute line in the sand, but rather grade on a scale.

Limited loli, especially stuff that falls clearly into another category and is mixed in with non-loli images, tends to be ignored/tolerated. Same with shota, except to a larger degree.