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'ello /d/. tonight, I've been presented with a problem that can only be remedied with the experience of /d/.

I have a friend who just told me that her husband's only fetish is asphyxiation; she doesn't know how to handle this. while he is neither abusive nor violent, asphyxiation itself has its limits and she worries about safety and such.

also, she's starting to feel bicurious, after being introduced to a number of female doms. her husband doesn't want to share her, nor does he want to be shared with others, but she wants some BDSM action that he is too gentle to provide.

your thoughts, /d/eviants?
and in before someone says something about the quality of advice on 4chan. /d/ doesn't stand for /d/umb.
>> 7eAL !!tllRoBnU1Sb
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in the meantime, post anything related to the fetishes mentioned above.
>> Anonymous
http://www.mybdsm.com/pages/breathplay/
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and what of the rest?
>> Anonymous
Asphyxiation is never safe. There's no other way to put it.
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My boyfriend likes me to grab his neck and control his breathing a little. I want to make him feel good but I'm scared I'll hurt him. :(
>> Anonymous
>>800364

That's not true. One just has to be very careful. The most dangerous thing is if someone seriously panics.
>> Anonymous
>>799709
It doesn't stand for /d/iscussion either.
>> Anonymous
OK. Being someone with a girlfriend who has a choking fetish, I can tell you that I've heard a LOT OF SHIT on the topic. Simply saying you have a breathplay fetish can get you branded in a kink community as a psycho - no matter what side of it you're on.

Do not ever EVER EVER choke someone out. It might work fine a dozen times, then KILL THEM. Don't fucking do it. They will die and it will be your fault. Don't put any weight on someone's throat or trachea. THEY WILL FUCKING DIE. Seriously.

What you CAN do is breath RESTRICTION. Put your hand over their mouth and nose for a few seconds. A good way to gauge is to hold your own breath and when you feel like breathing, let them breathe.

Another way to restrict breathing is to pinch the nose and kiss, or to have someone deep throat your cock (real or silicone). Let them pull back when they want, but the aspect of 'someone else controls my breath' is still there, and still hot.

Other more safe kinky things are: corsets to shorten breath, gags, and posture collars. Compressing or squeezing lightly on the abdomen can compress the diaphragm, leading to a shortness of breath, but this is normally to be avoided as internal damage can result with too much squeezing.

Good luck and please be safe :)
>> Anonymous
>>799709
BBWchans femdom board might be able to help more with the second issue http://yum.bbwchan.org/
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>>800396
fetishes don't only exist in pictures. don't think that everyone is born knowing how to do things safely and properly - don't even assume that everyone has the same fetishes you do.

when people want to play /d/ games, most of them need someone else to teach them the rules; they don't print rulebooks or guidelines the way /tg/ does.

>>800407
>>800392
also knew a dom girl whose ex-boyfriend liked to be asphyxiated. they broke up, but later she'd wonder whether he still had those bruises on his neck. bruising probably means pushing it too far, doesn't it?

again; what should she do about her bicuriosity? her husband doesn't want to share, even for 3p. she's a sub and she says that he's a switch in denial, which gives me the idea that introducing him to femdom would solve both their issues at once.
>> Anonymous
>>800443
And 4chan is really the place to ask these things?
>> Anonymous
>>800521

LOL, Anonymous would tell you Russian Roulette with an automatic is perfectly safe, then fap himself silly to the article in the paper the next morning about his net-buddy's suicide.
>> Anonymous
>>800544
That's more likely to happen on /b/, but you have a point.

>>800407
That was a good post though.
>> Anonymous
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I can't help but feel bad for those with a fetish that is highly unreasonable in real life. I'm feelin' like I have it easy for only being into bondage.
>> Anonymous
>>800614
Like me and BE and I don;t mean just get a boob job and compare before and after photos. I like to watch it happen. Thank god I don't mind animations.
>> Anonymous
>>800624
Now just imagine how us transformation fetishists feel.
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is this can be /d/ advice thread? I've been wondering lately how someone goes about finding and getting into a relationship with a dom or master.
>> anonymous
don't suppose local information would work
>> Anonymous
I have some expirience with this, my partner can get a bit rough when he is cums. you might advise her to ask him to keep one of his fingers raised near her mouth when he chokes her (this isn't always possible as it makes the grasp of one hand really wierd), this way she can bite down and snap him out of it if she begins to lose conciousness or something like that. If her hands aren't tied then she can just pinch him, no problem. If it is a fear thing, and not a real problem with him losing control, then she should talk to him about easing up and helping her overcome her fear.
>> Anonymous
Oh yeah, /d/ is the most educated board, pleased you came here.

Well, it's not all about pleasing one's sexual fantasies. The need to not share is something one partner isn't open to so there must be compromise. I'll give you this in turn I get ... Lesbian domination.

It's something all relationships go through, no one is perfect for one another in every aspect.

As for Asphyxiation I wouldn't suggest it ... It's much to dangerous a fetish to indulge in. Err, much like guro is a very dangerous thing to mess with. Blood guts, etc. Not saying it's guro I'm just saying it's dangerous like it.

I hope this helps.

- Anon
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>>800407
>>800742
these two make sense...
hard call, really.lots of discussion between them, and lots of safe experimentation within boundaries until they find a good balance is probably tbe only way to go.
as for her bicuriousity, if she's willing to indulge his fetish (to a safe extent ONLY), shouldn't he be willing to indulge hers?
still, i can't help but wonder about a guyy whose "only fetish is asphyxiation" but is "too gentle" to provide the kind of bdsm his wife seems to require...they need to talk, methinks.alot.
>> Anonymous
>>800757

True, unless they are in a commited relationship where this kind of thing could be considered cheating. If he's not emotionally open to that sort of thing, it could ruin their relationship if she presses the issue.
>> Anonymous
>>800751
Whaaaat? There's nothing at all wrong with guro. At least if it's only in drawn picture style. As a real life or real life picture thing, that's horrible.
>> 7eAL !!tllRoBnU1Sb
>>800785
I figure it's almost every straight guy's dream to be with two (or more) women at once - if she's asking for it, then don't make such a big deal out of it. He's very conservative and committed, though. I don't know if any amount of talking will change his mind, considering that she's all sub.

Okay, not kidding here, who else thinks that surprise femdom might be the only way? Assuming it doesn't backfire, then she gets what she wants, he admits he's a switch and opens up his horizons, everybody wins. If it does, well then it's been nice knowing you, /d/.
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>>800801
Shoot, forgot a picture.

>>800751
In case I need to clarify: he doesn't want to share her with anyone else, other women included. He wants to be her one-and-only, and vice-versa.

Real life guro? That's not even guro as we know it, that's blood, sharps, snuff & necro. Even as a surgeon, there's no way anyone would be able to fuck any other organs without somehow involving a morgue before or after.

>>800757
She says that all the rest of his fetishes are sub kinks, hence her belief that he is a switch in denial. Being bound and teased, being mummified, and something else I've forgotten. As a complete sub, she neither likes nor knows how to be a dom anyway.
>> Anonymous
>>800407
My girlfriend has pinched my nose then kissed me. Awesome experience.
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>>800821
Best laugh I've had all night. If only my friends were so innocent ...
>> Anonymous
>>800808
Sauce? I always wondered where this pic came from
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>>801535
Terios - Elysion

Terios games tend to have a lot of maids and stockings.
>> Anonymous
Organise a bunch of DOMS to BDSM-rape her boy friend. Also, do some kinky shit with one of the doms in front of him. If he doesn't give up and start enjoying it, tell her to get a new boyfriend.
>> Anonymous
I have a fetish for getting off to other peoples fetishes.
I am serious. I see shit like this and I get fucking curious.
now please don't someone say they have a fetish for being shot in the face when they cum of that will make me an "assisted" hero.
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>>801775
>boyfriend
correction: husband. recently married, and they get along so well too (more than can be said of many couples).

by the way; thanks for the advice and links so far, anon. /d/ is indeed the most e/d/ucated board.
>> Anonymous
>>801775
I'm assuming you're joking, but you can never be to sure, what with this being the internet and all.
>> Anonymous
>>801816

That's the main reason I go to /d/
>> Anonymous
is there really any other reason
>> Anonymous
>>801816
>>801850
>>801965

It's the reason I go here too, but I have to assume that people who honestly have their own fetishes are posting the pictures by which we are fascinated.
>> Anonymous
easy, just wear a face mask (like the ones you buy in home depot), it limits breathing but does not prevent it... sadly it looks bloody weird while having sex...
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>>800643

how do you think us parasite fetishists feel?
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>>800808
hmmmmm...what about an escort service?he can call in a female escort for her, he can direct the action, et'c...but it's all his call, so he gets to feel he's still in control.
>> Lumi
>>799709
>>799710

i feel a little silly asking for source, but it just seemed to look good....

as for advise... unless he's tried everything.... asphyxiation can't be the only way to get him off... so some variety might help...
>> Lumi
must have source of OP!
>> Lumi
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groups are good too...
>> Anonymous
>>asphyxiation itself has its limits and she worries about safety and such.

Some kinks are more dangerous than others. Try to be as safe as possible, find limits, and hope for the best.

>>also, she's starting to feel bicurious, after being introduced to a number of female doms. her husband doesn't want to share her, nor does he want to be shared with others, but she wants some BDSM action that he is too gentle to provide.

Either get less gentle or be prepared to "share". BDSM play isn't that hard though. I had a partner who was into it, and I slowly had to get more comfortable with the idea of yelling at her, striking her (not hard), and tying her up. It's much easier now, and I actually enjoy it.
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Personally I have several different fetishes that seem to revolve around this. I like to be smothered and strangled, preferably by the girl's legs/ass/feet. The arousal doesn't come from being knocked out (obviously) but rather the feeling of her controlling your breathing and consciousness through a means that you find arousing, such as her legs, ass, chest, feet, etc).

Personally I'm a huge fan of scissoring (the submission, not the girl on girl position). There are several different headscissor holds that can acomplish the best of both worlds (cut off both oxygen and blood circulation) most notably the figure four headscissor (pic related).

The inner thighs constrict inward to cut off circulation in the neck, while her calve presses in against your throat to cut off oxygen. This can of course be pretty dangerous, but as long as she knows how to squeeze in short to medium length "bursts" (not to mention ease up when you tap), you should be alright.

This is also awesome because her hands are free, meaning she can hold your wrists down to make the feeling more realistic.
>> Lumi
a good thread indeed...
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>>802939
There lies the problem again; he doesn't want to share. It's going to take them a lot of talking to get through their virtual spiderweb of personal tastes and limits. She hasn't been online so I haven't spoken to her since she asked me for help, but suggestions are good so far ...

>>803156
The other way to get him off is to go for his sub fetishes. Would that she could play at being a dom as well, then this wouldn't be a problem. Unfortunately, she'd rather be strung up and put on a leash.

Source on OP is (G.J.) Tsuma to Mama to Boin. G.J. is my favorite hgame publisher, without question.
>> Lumi
the rs for the HCG seems to be dead... anyone have a working torrent or another form of rs perhaps?
>> Anonymous
>>799709
To paraphrase Dan Savage, dump his ass, no point in staying in a relationship where you're not getting satisfaction.
>> Anonymous
>>800614
Bondage is the most common sexual fetish.

I don't feel sorry for furfags and so forth, anyway.
>> Anonymous
>>803330

Actually foot fetishism at one level or another is the most common.
>> Anonymous
Surprisingly... The most common fetish is actually
breasts. Nothing as kinky or fun as bondage, feet or leather.
>> Anonymous
>>803355
The most common "OUT OF THE NORM" fetish is feet. Don't get technical faggot.
>> Anonymous
>>803355
sexual fetishism generally implies something outside the typical
>> Anonymous
>>803355
>>803358
>>803359

Feet are actually more popular than breasts by notable margin you idiots.
>> Anonymous
>>803362
Proof please.
>> Lumi
lol
>> Lumi
really though... /r/ failed me and so did /rs/ is there anyone who knows where i can get the Tsuma to Mama to Boin HCG?
>> Ehhh..... !N2Rn3IpqO2
>>803359
A fetish is, technically speaking, something that must be present for a person to be able to get aroused. As commonly used, it's any element that helps a person get aroused. As such, nudity itself is, in common speech, a fetish, as are uniforms, gloves, armpits, buttocks, hands, etc.
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>>803595
Speaking of nudity, I like real people clothed better than naked. There's a minimum dress code in my bedroom; one or more articles of clothing. In the case of socks or stockings, proper pairs are required.

This sucks; the girl isn't showing up online so I can't give you all any feedback on your advice.
>> Lumi
i think 7eAL should upload the Tsuma to Mama to Boin HCG and stop teasing me with random pics from the set >.<
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>>803621
lol you saw what I did there. Silly, these two are from Ane to Boin, also by G.J.

I knew you'd ask for the Tsuma to Mama to Boin set, so I started uploading five or six minutes ago. Let's hope it works this time - RS usually doesn't like me.
>> Anonymous
>>803595

No, the definition isn't that it MUST be present, the definition is that if it IS present, it causes a habitual erotic response.

As an example, I find bondage VERY erotic and arousing. But that doesn't mean that there HAS to be bondage for me to find it erotic and arousing.
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oh joy~! guess what I have for you?
http://rapidshare.com/files/93481988/g.j._-_tsuma_to_mama_to_boin.rar.html
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7eAL I award you free internetz. THANK YOU SOOOOO MUCH! *bows and worships*
>> Anonymous
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>>800407

Please listen to this anon; he knows his shit.
>> Lumi
well said indeed...
>> Anonymous
>>803383
http://web.archive.org/web/20070430203911/news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/article230
3022.ece

47% prefer feet over all else
64% prefer foot associated items over other items
>> Anonymous
>>803876
I can't help but feel assured that this survey was flawed as hell. Whether it's because it used misleading questions, undefined wording, bad categorization or a terrible population sample, I don't know, but it seems to me that something OBVIOUSLY went wrong.

>Three per cent cent went for navels, ethnicity and breasts.

a 3 percent support for boobs. Seriously.
>> Anonymous
>>803882
I agree. I demand a link to that study
>> Anonymous
IS WAYNE BRADY GONNA HAVETA CHOKE A BITCH?!
>> Anonymous
I recommend you guys go to a psychiatrist and find out why you guys need harmful, potentially deadly ways just to get off.
>> Anonymous
>>804592
GTFO of /d/
>> Anonymous
>>800407

>Another way to restrict breathing is to pinch
>the nose and kiss, or to have someone deep
>throat your cock (real or silicone). Let them
>pull back when they want, but the aspect of
>'someone else controls my breath' is still
>there, and still hot.

Quoted for truth. It's pretty damn safe, and still a big turn on.
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>>804592
I'd probably get off on gutting you alive. That's my idea of guro for you.

I browse through all 11 pages of /d/ looking for this thread, only to realize when I get to the end that somebody bumped it while I was busy looking.

>>803249
How does one, especially a sub, train someone into being a dom like this?
>> Anonymous
>>804565
He did provide a link...
>> Aggrav8d
As for the second part of your question, the thing that's needed most is open communication. True for any relationship, especially true for kinky ones. He doesn't want to share but he wants to feel like he's being choked? I'm sure a compromised can be reached. Also, why does she feel bicurious? Is it because they're women or because they're doms? It may be that she's getting a little confused. Put it this way: if hubby responded to her needs a little more and dommed a bit better, would she still have a wandering eye?
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Personally I've always found myself into bondage/domination play.

With asphyxiation personally the best and generally the safest is queening/smothing. Usually the top can get a feel for when the bottom is struggling to breath since you can feel their head move. At least, that's assuming the top isn't really overweight and crushing...

Anyway I love it.
>> Anonymous
>>804799
>He did provide a link...

to an archived newspaper. I meant a study or journal
>> Anonymous
>>804815
This person has a good point. If the "other woman" was a sub, would she still find her sexually attractive at all? Maybe, her wording is just what's off putting. Makes her sound like she wants to be with another girl more than she wants to be dominated. Or would she even be aroused if the dom was a man?
>> Anonymous
>>801832
>>804766

Can i have a source for these?

Speaking of asphyxiation is it the same as strangling? my woman likes being held by the throat and lifted for a short while (about 30 seconds) she really gets off to that.