File :-(, x, )
What do you consider gay? Anonymous
Do you think strapons, fem dom, or shemales doing females gay?

also here is some futa
>> Anonymous
"Gay" is whatever's in /y/ at the moment.
>> Servant of Suiseiseki !XXRGyU7XMs
>>666242

Or, if you want to be technical, /u/
>> Anonymous
>>666242
>>666244

both true, however /d/ is not for discussion.
>> Anonymous
     File :-(, x)
no, no, and no. it's all female with male.
>> Anonymous
     File :-(, x)
>> Anonymous
gay one one man with another.
>> Anonymous
>>666246

balls not touching, not gay.
>> Anonymous
     File :-(, x)
>> Anonymous
     File :-(, x)
>> Anonymous
     File :-(, x)
>> Anonymous
     File :-(, x)
it's a trap?
>> Anonymous
     File :-(, x)
None of the acts you mentioned are what I would consider "gay" sex. Fem dom in particular has nothing to do with sexuality, it has to do with power; it's just that a lot of men think that not being dominant makes them femine or gay, but that's a hang-up, not a sexuality. Same thing with strap-ons used on men, it's about power, not about wanting a man inside you. Shemales doing females is about as ungay as you could possibly get; it's just modified lesbian sex really.
>> Anonymous
     File :-(, x)
>> FKA Anonymous !4UjY1di7KI
>>666258
So what about someone who wants cock, but not the guy that's supposed to be attached to it? Same thing, or a little different?
>> Anonymous
"...as ungay as you could possibly get; it's just modified lesbian sex really."

I lol'd. Hear that guys? Lesbians aren't gay!
>> Anonymous
>>666262
By gay he meant man on man gay, not homosexual, dumbfuck.
>> Anonymous
>>666240

So fem dom is ok? I am not gay I knwo this for a fact but I do like it when a woman has some extent of control.. i mean who doesn't really? Being in charge gets boring
>> Anonymous
     File :-(, x)
>>666260
Without a body, a phallus is just an object. If a lesbian uses a dildo, or gets fucked by another lesbian with a strap-on, she's not secretly straight, she just enjoys the sensation of being filled up.

Think of it this way: if you're a straight male, would you enjoy a woman giving you head? Sure. Now would you enjoy a man giving you head? No. The mechanics and the parts are the same, but who it's attached to makes all the difference. Same thing with genatalia.
>> Anonymous
What exactly do you mean about the genatalia part? Also do you consider futa gay?

I personally don't because most futa artist draw with the intention of a female body and just kinda tack on a penis
>> Anonymous
>>666281
I would not consider most futa gay. Some of it is borderline, such as men being fucked by futas, but I think that depends on the individual and what exactly about the image he's aroused by (personally, I only enjoy solo futa and futa on female).

As far as gentalia, I meant the example of the strap-on, that it doesn't matter if it's intended to look and act like a penis, if a woman is using on someone of either sex it can't be gay sex because a woman is doing it, not a man.
>> Anonymous
>>666272
Actually, you'd be surprised how many men won't turn down free head from another man if they're sure no one will find out.
>> Anonymous
>>666317

Humans are bisexual but we've also got incredible hangups about some sexual activities worked into the mix. We tell ourselves this or that isn't "right" or "moral" or that virginity until marriage is a "virtue" (when it's really just a business proposition) or that a man must always be dominant or he isn't really a man, etc. etc.
>> Anonymous
>>666317
You must know a lot of gay guys
>> Anonymous
Only thing that is gay is sex with another male who currently looks like a male. Homosexuality is defined as attraction to the male form, not attraction to penises.
>> Anonymous
futa's about as gay as you can get.

After all, you're taking something perfecterly good(a female) and adding a penis to it.

And no, a penis is not just an object. If anything, a penis is one of the most identifing features of the male body, and as such, images of it invoke memories of males. That's why girls with penises are trannies, we identify their female form, but that conflicts with their penis, which is clearly male, so they end up somewhere in between.

In conclusion, yes, futa is gay.
>> Anonymous
>>666334
Huh? Trannies are dudes with boobjobs and this is usually quite obvious.
Futa are kind of the opposite of trannies~
>> Anonymous
>>666334
Logic from 1950 for the win.
>> Anonymous
The reason Futanari is popular among males is because you are taking the organ of a man and placing it on a woman to enjoy. To be able to see a woman enjoy the same feeling males share during sex is a major turn on. If you look at Futa and it invokes a male imagery and you use this to pleasure yourself, then you are gay. If you look at Futa and the thought of a woman enjoying herself gets you off, then guess what? You ain't gay sonny.
>> Anonymous
>>666254

That is unbelievably hot
>> Anonymous
>>666360

agreed.

fap fap fap
>> Anonymous
Only thing that can make a man gay is wanting to fuck another man, period!
>> Anonymous
Why are we even having this discussion? Gay would be if a man has sex with another man. It's not that hard to figure out.
>> Ehhh.....
>>666334
How does one define homosexuality?

Tricky.

You see, there are two definite and distinct ways to define it. Attraction to those of the same gender, and attraction to those of the same sex.

If you're a complete moron, allow me to explain to you the difference. Sex is a genetic construct. It's unchangeable--at least, given modern technology. One's sex has nothing to do with one's sexual characteristics, one's mannerisms, or anything psychological or visibly physiological, save for the influence it has upon those. However, psychology and visible physiology can be altered indeterminate of one's sex, and are therefore clearly non-determining factors of one's sex.

Gender is a psychological construct. It is influenced heavily by one's sex, but is perfectly capable of opposing it. Gender, as a psychological construct, is capable of change, though as a fundamental part of one's sense of self, it is extremely difficult to do so.

One's gender can be female, while one's sex is male, or vice versa; it is a rather rare occurrence, but far from unheard of.

If you define homosexuality as attraction to the same sex, then the concept of "futanari" lies entirely outside of that consideration--insofar as the English-speaking world understands the term. Futanari, ie, a girl (lets just keep that word for the sake of simplicity right now) with a fully functioning penis and womb, one capable of becoming pregnant, and producing a normal amount (or much more) of ejaculate, does not exist as a biological being, and only on paper. It therefore has no sex, and an attraction to futanari is, as defined by sex, neither heterosexual nor homosexual.

What you seem to be leaning toward, however, is homosexuality in perception, ie, a psychologically based idea of homosexuality. In other words, we should focus on how futanari fits into homosexuality if we define such as attraction to one's own gender.
>> Ehhh.....
>>666382
In that case, we have to rely on an individual's perception of another's gender in order to determine whether that individual is attracted to the other as in a homosexual manner or a heterosexual manner. I'd say that, in the case of a "typical" futanari, the overwhelming alerts toward gender are female--after all, they are designed, in every respect but in one part of their genitalia, to appear female, and frequently to appear attractively female--face, torso shape, breasts, leg shape, etc. They have vaginas, wombs--in fact, all of the sexual organs of a woman.

In light of all these signals, as compared to the single signal that would suggest maleness--the penis, and, if present, testicles--, it would be logical to conclude that most people that are attracted to futanari are attracted to them in a heterosexual way--ie, are perceiving their gender to be female. In other words, finding yourself attracted to futanari more frequently than not should indicate heterosexuality rather than homosexuality, given a gender-based definition of sexual preference. Once again, given a sex-based definition of the same, attraction to futanari has no weight on one's sexual preference at all.