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Anonymous
Dear /cm/ w need more Akito. post away
>> Anonymous
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Oh, I wonder how much drama this is gonna bring.
>> Anonymous
Well, Akito WAS officially male before the mangaka threw that hissy fit over all the Akito centric yaoi. She even called Akito male herself, several times, no joke =/ She ruined her own character to spite the yaoi fans.
>> Anonymous
>>130774
Yes, I agree. Althought it's the first time I've seen a shoujo mangaka do that. (And why make your characters so girly, if the yaoi is gonna bother you?)

Unfortunately, I have no Akito to share =(
>> Anonymous
>>130774
that is the lamest thing i have heard in a while..... we should get some of that mangaka angering stuff on here!
>> Anonymous
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Fuck, that isn't all she did to combat yaoi. She made Ayame fall for some dumb ugly bitch, right out of the blue. AYAME, ffs, with a GIRL, yeah right. After she had him offer to be the receptacle for the lust of the entire student body, IN AN ALL BOYS SCHOOL, and all the gay innuendoes literally pouring out of him. If any of them were gay, it would be Ayame. At the very least he's bi.
>> edo_hure !CY6ac/sjcI
>>130820
so where,officially, does it say akito's a girl?
>> Anonymous
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>>130860

Volume 17, chapter 97. After that point I lost interest.
>> Anonymous
Akito's a girl.

If the author/artist says so, it's true.
>> Anonymous
For a last stab at denial here... Isn't the anime version of Akito male?
>> *nod nod* Mi-chan
Technically yes, because Furuba only went on for about 24 episodes or so in the Anime, never revealing Akito to be a girl.
>> Anonymous
>>130894
Yes, but only after she threw that fit. That's the rub. They are her's, so she can do whatever she wants with them, but she created Akito as a man. Then she decided there was way too much yaoi so she pulled a fast one and changed him into a girl, just like poof, pissing almost every single fan off royally, even the straight fanboys, because that is totally not cool for any author/mangaka/whatever to do. It's just childish and spiteful. She never had any intention of having Akito be a girl until she decided she hated yaoi and fan works. She's the Japanese Anne Rice.
>> Anonymous
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Now the point... Is it okay to post Akito?
>> Anonymous
>>130908
As long as there are no bewbs, yes.

It's so funny, she really is the Anne Rice of manga. 98% of her Furuba fanbase spit at her for this, just like 98% of Rice's fanbase spit at her for turning Lestat into a god-fearing christian pussy. I could NEVER do that to my characters. They are practically their own people to me, if I were to change them just 'cause, they wouldn't be the same characters and all my work in making them believable and real would be wasted. I'd also be flattered that people love them enough to draw and write about them.
>> QueenSaiyan
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I never knew she changed it afterwards...

Wow. What an ass. Doesn't she know that the moment you show your work to someone they instantly have the ability to think/write/draw whatever the hell they want? *sigh*

This screencap's all I have of anime!Akito.
>> Anonymous
doesn't she know that you're at the peak of your career when people are drawing yaoi based on your characters?

or that the only merit her manga has is the potential for yaoi?
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>>130971

Nah she is just incredibly retarded. If I remember correct the guys turn into animals when the opposite sex hugguing 'em... so she fuck up the logic too?!
>> Anonymous
>>130986
That only happens with non-Sohmas hugging a Sohma. Hence why Kagura can hug Kyo without a problem.
>> Anonymous
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Best Akito Pic ever. Now take her to /c/
>> Anonymous
>>130986
So she has no problem with child abuse, hinted sexual abuse, incest, and possible beasitality; but yaoi is the thing that pisses her off?

Wow. Her logic fails me.
>> Anonymous
it wasn't so much the yaoi itself that pissed her off. it was just how plausible the possibilities were.

not only is akito now post-op, but the managaka's gone out of her way to make sure each and every last male character has a female companion, to the extent of inventing some out of nowhere.

>>131031
>>130908

some people insist that she planned it all along. but just look at those two pictures. she had to draw akito with breasts just to convince anybody.
>> Anonymous
Bump!
With that resolved (as pretty much everyone seems to be in agreement that the mangaka is a tard), how about more pictures of Akito before s/he magically grew boobs?
>> Anonymous
no, we can stop here
>> Statuess
... Is it just me, or do Akito-with-boobs' boobs not even look like boobs? They're like... half-boobs. o.o Wow, that's like boobiest post I've ever typed.
>> Anonymous
I liked Akito more as a man, but didn't stop reading the manga after he was turned in to a reverse trap.

But I'm curious, where has the information come from that the author changed Akito's gender because she hates yaoi? Was there an interview somewhere or is it just a theory that angry fans like to throw off?
>> Statuess
>>131104
:P I am of the opinion that that is my aniki.
>> Anonymous
>>131104
I can't link the article (I can't read Japanese anyway), but I can tell you it isn't a theory. It's glaringly obvious she just pulled all this out her ass if you've been following the manga and seen the anime. I think it was all the Akito x Yuki that finally made her wigg out. That was like, the dumbest move she could have ever made. To a LOT of people, FB died after she made these changes and made the males fall for random girls literally overnight. It was a fun series, but now it just angers people because you can't read it anymore without seeing how she fucked it up.
>> Anonymous
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>>130820
You know, no need to bash the girl just because you wanted Ayame to be gay. That relationship was even kinda hinted at the anime, as well.

>>131104
That's what I would like to know as well. After all, loose clothes + small boobs + fucked-up mom = boy-like Akito.

I lack him/her, have some Yuki.
>> Anonymous
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>>131125
Yep, just a theory.
>> Anonymous
The mangaka hates yaoi? I remember Hatsuharu telling Tohru that Yuki was his first love. That was early in the series though...
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>>131132
ZOMG, hole in the whole "mangaka hates yaoi" theory.
>> Anonymous
>>131165
it's not a hole. that was brought up in the interview if i remember right. she responded she didn't mean love in THAT WAY, of COURSE.
>> Anonymous
>>131132
But then she introduced Rin as his "real love" and wham! she proofed once more, that she´s not a Yaoi Fan.
>> Anonymous
>>131171
So? It's her manga, she has the right not to like yaoi if she doesn't want to. If the het bothers you that much, then stop reading it =/
>> Anonymous
yes, but she deviated from her original intentions purely because of it. this is what separates her from the other people who have simply voiced aloud their displeasure with what some fans have come up with (jhonen vasquez comes to mind).
>> edo_hure !CY6ac/sjcI
>>130914
i agree. i actually suspect that moth authors might actually agree on some level too,but their publicists won't.
>> Anonymous
>>131132

Oops, I should've mentioned that I'm not far into the manga. Oh well.

In any case, if this were true (I'm saying "if" cause I haven't seen real proof yet [An article... anything.]) she should be aware that if she makes a manga with tons of bishounen, there's bound to be yaoi of course.
>> Anonymous
So she has no problem with child abuse, hinted sexual abuse, incest, and possible beasitality; but yaoi is the thing that pisses her off?

Wow. Her logic fails me.
I agree with that. :/
>> Anonymous
>>131180
Give me some proof that she dislikes yaoi (and no, making het couples =/= OMG YAOI HATE) besides you saying that.

And what makes you say it deviated from her original idea? Do you have any proof (yes, repeating myself) that she wasn't planning this from the very beginning?
>> when shit hit the fan Anonymous
this is going out of the control...
>> Anonymous
>>131232
Just look at it! Female characters pop out of the woodwork just so the guys wont be paired up. >.<

Japanese Anne Rice for sure.
>> Anonymous
Without proof, it's all just speculation from fag hags.
>> Anonymous
>>131171
So in other words, she pulled an Anne Rice? The whole "Oh he/she's only gay until the right man/woman shows up" thing really pisses me off.
>> Anonymous
>>131235
..Have yu even READ Anne Rice? A fair few of her characters ARE gay and ARE male. MariusxAmadeo; AmadeoxDaniel. Just because LestatxLouis isn't cannon people bitch that all f her characters are straight? Try reading past the first book. LestatxNicky was VERY cannon. What's wrong with nicky? Nicky > Louis any day. x3
>> Anonymous
>>131243
You missed the point. She's being compared to Anne Rice because she bitches about yaoi/fanworks in general (just like Rice), has completely changed some of her characters from what they were supposed to be (just like Rice), and started throwing things in without even trying to blend it into the story or ease it in gradually so it would at least be kind of believable (just like Rice). No one is talking about Lestat and Louis' relationship.
>> Remmy
>>131271
Bingo. Anne Rice hated fanfiction so much she had it banned on her stories. An act that made me cry endlessly for a week. And as for Anne Rice having something against yaoi. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! No. Pretty much ALL of her relationships cross gender lines. In her erotica series, the first volume "The Claiming of Sleeping Beauty" contains graphic representation of both anal and oral sex between two men. Do your homework people. She never randomly made people of the blue to strike down those relationships either. She encouraged them. XD
More to the point. Fruits Basket remains to be the most disturbingly wierd manga I...personally...have ever read. And I don't care if he has boobs. Akito is a man in my book.
>> Anonymous
>>131243
Marius is not gay. He is a pedophile. The whole reason he went with Armand in the first place was to take his mind off of Pandora and that barmaid chick.
>> Anonymous
What I'm sensing here is not that she hates yaoi, it's that she hates yaoi fiction. Just as an example, I can't speak of any of the rest of her work, but maybe she wouldn't have a problem creating (assuming she hasn't) openly gay characters (Hastuhara might count as bi), but when hormonal fangirl X takes Characters Y and Z and makes them fuck all night for no real reason, that pisses her off.

Of course, is it reasonable to expect yaoi fan girls to leave bishounen alone? No. They're fan girls. Like it or not, they'll get their yaoi. But that doesn't mean she doesn't have the right to be mad.

But oh well. Does it really matter all that much? Internet and anime: Serious Business
>> Anonymous
>>131395
Main point of discussion here is wether she is mad, or it's a theory that angry fangirls invented once they saw their yaoi couples being torned apart.

And since I haven't seen proof that she does hates it...
>> Anonymous
If the mangaka didn't like yaoi fanfiction, she shouldn't have created so much sexual tension between the characters to begin with. I mean, that alone is probably the only reason Furuba is popular to begin with and she knows it.
>> Anonymous
just so you know, Akito in the anime was voiced by a male. If Akito was a she in the anime, they would have cast a female w/ masculine voice. that's what I think. yes, to me, she suddenly decided to make such a plot twist out of nowhere, it wasn't planned from the beginning
>> Anonymous
LOL DENIAL

GET BACK TO /C/
>> Anonymous
>>131106
Sorry, no, I'm not your aniki. :p

Anyways, clearly there is no proof that the author really is pissed about yaoi and that's why she changed Akito's gender and paired up all the other bishies.

It is well possible that she didn't plan this from the very beginning, but couldn't it be possible that she made the changes for _some other reason_ than to make fangirls angry? At least for me it seems plausible that she indeed did intend to make "a happy ending" and give all the guys a girl. And changing Akito's gender, maybe that was intended to be a "super shocking plot twist"... I don't know, I'm not believing the she-hates-yaoi -theory until I see an interview or something where she claims it herself.
>> Anonymous
Is there a vagina to go along with those boobs? Cause boobs don't always equal automatic female. For all we know, Akito could be some intersexed/transexual person. Kind of like the chicks from Hellsing.
>> pointless discussions are pooooointless Anonymous
Ok, can we stop this discussion here and now? If the mangaka says Akito is girl then SHE IS GIRL, SHE HAVE flat BOOBS and SHE propably HAVE VAGOO. Get this shit out of my /cm/.
>> Anonymous
Hay guys, what's going on?!?!11
>> Anonymous
GIMME BOOBLESS AKITO
>> Anonymous
This was the dumbest crap ever. Don't make your characters interact as if they are gay, like Ayame and Shigure, and expect yaoi fangirls not to pair them.

And not every guy on the series has to have a girl. Ever heard of being SINGLE?

And the guys can't even hug girls outside the family. All the more reason to be gay.

Pisses me off.
>> Anonymous
And its funny cause when Akito was wearing those tight black clothes in an earlier volume, there were no hints at all of femininity. No curves or hints of tits. She pulled it out of her ass.
>> Anonymous
>>131761

sure, but this thread goes nowhere.
>> Anonymous
>>131761
OMG, maybe Akito is just really, really, really flat chested. There are RL-Girl like that, whose breast don´t even qualify as an A Cup, because they are too small. In Germany we have the Terms "Mückenstich" (Mosquito bite)or "Mäusefäustchen" (could be translated as Mice fists), because they are so small.
But, yes, the Mangaka really pulled it out of her ass.
>> Anonymous
Give me some proof that she dislikes yaoi (and no, making het couples =/= OMG YAOI HATE) besides you saying that.

"And what makes you say it deviated from her original idea? Do you have any proof (yes, repeating myself) that she wasn't planning this from the very beginning?"

WORD! most people who support the "zomg!homophobic! author" theory, dont really know what the story is about (their knowledge limits to: anime and/or a couple of books and/or internet rumours and/or fanfiction). People who have read the actual manga (all or most of it) tend to be ok with Akito's gender revelation...they know the story is consistent, planned from the beginning, not a mere response to certain fans attitude. And there's LOTS of female!Akito fans...me included. Actually, she's my fav character (i'm an heterosexual woman and yaoi fan btw)
Takaya-sensei herself said in the neko fanbook that she created Akito as a girl since the beginning. Genderbending girls aren't unusual in shoujo manga and they tend to be flat chested (breast binding anyone?)
>> Anonymous
>>131933

OK, ITS OK. Then get this shit out of /cm/.
>> Remmy
>>131933
You're not getting the point. It's a sucky story flip. And everyone hates but you, men, lesbians, and the manga ka.
As for pictures of Akito, I have no desire boobless or no...I just keep thinking "Wow...Akito sucks now."
>> Anonymous
THIS IS NOT A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE AUTHOR

AKITO IS A FEMALE

DONE AND DONE

GET OUT OF /CM/
>> Anonymous
Die, thread, die.
>> Anonymous
>>131594
I thought the Hellsing women were more like transvestites O_o
>> Anonymous
>>Wow...Akito sucks now.

Yeah, because he stopped being the fucked up person who is in desperate need for attention/love from the Jyuunshi(sp?) just because he turned into a she. Right.
>> Anonymous
>>132417

Annnnd the raving yaoi fangirls' wonderful misogynistic double-standard rears its head again. Anything a guy does is wonderful, but just let a woman do the same, and she sucks.

I have never wanted to brutalize so many people at once then when Akito was "revealed" and the fangirls went from drooling over how deep and fucked up "he" was to "Omigod, he's a GIRL? ICKY! Akito SUCKS NOW!" Y'all might want to go off to a psychiatrist and get that self-loathing complex of yours examined, kay?

And BTW, Akito is definitely male in the anime. His kimono falls open at one point, and you can clearly see his bare (flat and obviously male) chest.
>> Anonymous
How do you find this out?
>> Anonymous
>>132495

Check the panties...
>> Anonymous
>>132431
No no no, we aren't saying Akito COULDN'T have been cool as a girl, we have a problem with how it was done. There are some awesome female characters. The thing with Akito was, "she" wasn't always a she. Like you said, in the anime (and some manga shots, too) he doesn't even have pecs. There are never any bandages either. And the very much male voice, and several other things just really drive it home that it was done all of a sudden. THAT is what we have a problem with. If she did it correctly, it would have been an awesome plot twist, and would have been welcomed by most. But contrary to what>>131933is saying, most fans, girls and boys alike, have extreme "WTF" and "BWUH?!" reservations to this. If someone really followed the manga and anime they would see just how sudden and shallow it was.
>> Anonymous
Don't count the masculine voice in anything, since the anime was complete before the change.