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Done. Now gimme my internets!
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I love you, anon!
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I might as well ask here... can someone please tell me why there's so much Lockon/Allelujah? Like, did I miss something in the show?
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>>799335
Because people like to pair people with attractive people, not based on interests or canon, of course!
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Because in the first few episodes, there was a period of time when they were alone.

And Dynames and Kyrios had a thing where they helped each other out on a mission... Kyrios airlifted Dynames, basically.

AKA fangirls desperately wanting to pair people together for no reason.
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>>799346

It's basically the same reason there's so much Alletier, too.
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Hopefully this isn't a repost...
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>>799353

Acutally, I find it impossible to pair Allelujah with any of the other Meisters. He has absolutely no dynamics with the three, whether good or bad, and he was the least affected by Lockon's death. The closest thing to a dynamic was probably when Tieria sent him into solitary confinement, but that was just him being his assholish YOU ARE NOT FIT TO BE A GUNDAM MEISTER self.

>>799350

Haha, I remember that actually. They had a bit of a Ratsel/Zengar thing going on. Hot.
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It's got the others in there, but come on! Costumes! And Lockon as a vampire!
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>>799687

I agree. >_> Setsuna, Mr Gundam, has better/more developed relationships with the other Meisters than he does.

But really, Allelujah was my least favourite of the Meisters for the bulk of season 1, so maybe I'm biased against him.
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>>799335
Guess it has something to do with Allelujah constantly trying to cock-block when ever Lockon was involved and people taking that as an excuse to pair those two together.
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>>799751

I think I missed that.
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>>799687
I never did understand any pairing with H/Al in it. His character design is all SEX but as far as his relationship with other meisters went, he was just Lockon-lite.
In fact, I have no propensity for any pairing between the Meisters, except for the hammer-it-in-why-dontcha Tieria crushing on Lockon. Then again, I go toward emotional relationships rather than pure sex, so minority gap huh.
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speaking of those two...


source: http://anibunny.deviantart.com/
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Speaking of Allelujah and Lockon...
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I have become overly protective of Lockon/Tieria as of late. :X
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>>799706
This is my OTP. Am I weird?
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>>799867

Naw, you're just hung up on milk.

I like the Lockon/Setsuna relationship, but purely as a brother thing. It's freaky, how 00 is one of the only series I've ever been in where I've been so strongly canon-pairings-only. :X
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My current wall.
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>>799873

I know, right? I feel exactly the same way. Like, I absolutely adore pairings like Patrick/Kati, Billy's one-sided Sumeragi love, and the surrogate-father thing Sergei has going on with Soma. And I think that Lockon/Tieria is a very very asexual sort of relationship; love in its purest form, I guess. And it was just so... tragic and heart-wrenching. I'm not a rabid yaoi shipper by any means whatsoever, but I absolutely HATE it when people say that they're doing it to draw in female fans. What the fuck.

>>799867

It's weird, I guess. Lockon/Setsuna was pretty big near the start... it's really cute, actually, but I personally can't see it beyong a brotherly relationship. :P

>>799775

That's just the way Allelujah is, though; he's very quiet and reserved and doesn't like to meddle in things. He's very practical; in fact, what he lacks is passion, and that's where Hallelujah picks up on (hence why they kicked so much ass when Al went all GATTAI; Al's clear and concise thinking plus the raw instincts of Hal). People ship him because I guess he's the definition of a super-uke in some ways. Still, though... it just doesn't do it for me. I dunno, I was also pretty apathetic towards both him and Setsuna until after halfway through the series. Hell, I love all the Meisters. Anyway, I'm rambling.
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>he's the definition of a super-uke in some ways

I admit it, I actually loled at this. Super uke Allelujah = absofreakinghilarious.
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>>800291

You mean you don't see it? SRSLAYYYY. He's just so... passive and submissive.

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Oh lol.
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>>797449
Lockon, you stupid ass, why did you have to go all HOT BLOOD and leave poor Vowels all alone?
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>>800309

I would, MAYBE, call him passive. More like "apathetic", though. And something very, very far from SUBMISSIVE. He's a freakin' Meister.

I honestly can't even think of a moment where he was anything close to submissive. He's quiet, yes-- but he also gets shit done when it's needed. He'll go against orders, when it's needed, and is willing to accept the consequences-- that's not being SUBMISSIVE, that's being smart so he doesn't get KILLED.

Seriously, using the word submissive for any of the Meisters (other than Tieria, re: Veda's will in the first half of season 1) is absolutely BONKERS.
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>>800367

Allelujah normally submits to orders (with one exception being the time when he chose to save the people in the colony block, or whatever it was), and uptight Meisters who lock him in his room for being a bad boy. He doesn't like to cause trouble. Meh, I never really paid attention to his character as he bored me, but I got huge uke vibes off him, like in the Lockon/Feldt cockblocking scene where he's all *BLUSHBLUSHBLUSH*

Also, I hope you do realise that I mean submissive in the context of romance and/or sex, not 'getting killed'. And note that I said "super-uke in some ways", with 'some' being the key word. I personally can't see him being tops.
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>>800387

Yeah, I totally got that. But I just don't see it. The things you point to that make you think submissive ARE from him being a soldier, though, and obeying orders is what soldiers should be doing. Setsuna's just a freaky loose canon who runs off doing what he wants-- the rest of the Meisters are quite good at obeying orders, most of the time.

Frankly, I wouldn't pair Allelujah (canon wise) with anyone at this point, but if I put him into a m/m situation, I don't see him as some sort of auto-uke. Especially since he FINALLY got off my bad list and started kicking ass in the last few eps.
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>>800392

Yeah, I mostly agree. Although the kicking ass was mostly thanks to Hallelujah. I just don't see Al as the dominating type at all in a relationship, and that's what makes him uke in my eyes.
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>>800401

While I'm all for D/s, seme/uke isn't about that, really. If we're forcing the G-boys into those positions, it generally doesn't WORK. Allelujah would make a good "comforting seme", for instance.

So you know-- I'm not saying if I was having Allelujah get it on with pilots that he couldn't/wouldn't be uke... it's just that he really, really wouldn't be with all characters. >_>;
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>>800405

I lose. Must get yaoi goggles fixed.
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>>799335
Well, there's also the bit that Lockon was essentially Allelujah's best friend in CB - article scans kind of allude to it.
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>>800517

?????? Two people on a deserted island Meter: * * * *
??????? Rest well Meter: * * *
????? Same battlefront Meter: * * *

That's the only thing I can think of off the top of my head like that...

I always got the feeling that the degree of Lockon's feelings was the least strong towards Allelujah-- Setsuna is very strongly younger brother, Tieria is someone he wants to protect/comfort...

They could be good friends, but even when Lockon died, Allelujah seemed to have the smallest reaction.
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>>800517

Errr, what? Allelujah had the least interaction with any of the other Meisters in the show, let alone being best friends with Lockon. He would've been more torn up over Lockon's death. Even Sumeragi seemed more affected by it.
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>>800956

LockAlle fans see what they want to see.

AKA Give us these scans or I call shenanigans.
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>>800984

Also, it doesn't count if they're from Pash, which being a heavily fangirl-targeted magazine pretty much plays up everything (like saying that Graham and Billy are 92% in love, despite the fact that Graham is a crazy fucker with only the Gundams on his mind, and Billy's smitten with Sumeragi to the point of feeding her top-secret information to get her attention). In fact, I think the "two people on a deserted island" thing also came from Pash. Not the most credible or official of sources, to say the least.
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I am the only one that thinks Sumeragi would totally make Allelujah, or any of the Meisters for that matter, her personal bitch? Drinking with Allelujah was just a part of her plan to slip roofies in his drink and rape his semi-conscious body.
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No, the desert island thing came from animage.

It was obviously the least emotion filled on of the meters, though.

VS Setsuna

?? Younger brother Meter: * * * *
???????? Can't leave him alone Meter: * * * *
???? Hatred Meter: * *
VS Tieria
????? Cute Meter: * * *
????? I'll protect you Meter: * * * *
?????? Don't worry about it Meter: * * * * *

VS Allelujah

?????? Two people on a deserted island Meter: * * * *
??????? Rest well Meter: * * *
????? Same battlefront Meter: * * *
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>>801063

YES YES YES YES YES.

I think I read a doujin like this once. It ended with Sumeragi pegging Allelujah, IIRC. Second best to the one where Louise fists Nena with her stump. Delicious.