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Since there are clearly a lot of us here who feel that Luke is the most adorable thing since kittens, let us have a thread for our Luke!
Preferably unmolested.
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I would say excuse the tits, but Anise doesn't have any!
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Kitten's have nothing on Luke.
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I wonder if I'm the only one that thought they were too harsh with Luke during the Akzeruith bit...?
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You aren't. He's just a little seven year old! ;.;
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At first I thought, well maybe if you all weren't keeping secrets from the guy MABEY he would've known or caught on to what Van was doing. Afterwards I thought well Luke would be to foolish to listen to any one and just be on 'Master' Van's side, even if the group beat the truth into him Luke would just run away and join Van. I mean think of how the old Luke would even react if he was an Replica..."What the hell's that...I'M AN AMBASSADOR DO AS I SAY!!"

So yea I know what your saying.
Tough where other Harsh moments in the game as well, like if Guy hadn't saved Anise Natalia would have lost all respect in him?

So it was hard, cause they where all like "well how will he take it." kinda like, and on top of that Luke was an prick asshole to everyone.
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Preferably unmolested you say?
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>>1171485
Yeah I get it...but it still made me mad (though Guy redeemed himself by going back for him)

I mean Luke was betrayed by the only person he looked up to, killed a thousand people he thought he was saving, and found out he wasn't even the real Luke all in the span of a few minutes. And yet they still abandon him. Granted, he was a jerkass, but come on....

But no, when Anise betrays them and gets Ion killed everyone just welcomes her back and consoles her....
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THAT PICTURE MAKES ME CRY
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>>1171504
I think it's just that Anise looks the part of a child as opposed to Luke who appears 10 years older than he really is. Regardless, they're all buggers and that is the sole reason I support LukexTear. ... aside from the fact that she actually said she loved him.

Something I waited for and NEVER GOT in ToS.
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>>1171509
Yeah, I was surprised to find I actually LIKED that pairing. And I usually never like the girl they expect the MC to be with. Probably because Tear was awesome and it wasn't thrown in your face from the start.

ToS...the only straight pairings I shipped involved Raine (for the crack) and Sheena. I was neutral about Presea and couldn't really stand Collete.
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>>1171504
She played an damn good spy that's all i have to say, but it's only due to that later on in the game they use "Anise why are you acting weird?"

I might as well ask now, but can anyone tell me into on this pick? when I was at the Ring place with all the lava (not the Volcano place) and Anise wanted to get out of there, and Jade was close to asking what her reasons where.So was Anise acting "weird" for an reason? or was it simply for another reason related to Mohs, because the only time when she was (obvisily) reporting to Mohs was when they where in Grand Chokmah, after Frings died (I think) somehow. Because seeing this jpg made me confused.

If you need to know it's from this site.

>http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/339524/anise_tatlin-black_hair-doll-red_eyes-ribbons-tale
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I'm probably thinking to much on the storyline but I can help it.I beat the game but I'm still using my old data going around getting more GRADE and what not.
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You have to think of it like this: They had just spent a week wandering the desert with Ambassador Jerkoff, who, by the time they reached Akzeriuth, had become pretty much unbearable, even for the ever amiable Guy. It wasn't the fall, but him playing the victim that broke the camel's back. Jade and Anise didn't like Luke in the first place, and they'd only been with him a matter of a week or so, and only by circumstance. They also had the immediate threat of Van to deal with, so sitting around Yulia City and having a pity party with Luke wasn't really an option. Tear stayed, probably out of pity and to think over what her options were now that she knew Van's true capabilities and was probably beginning to foster some doubt for Mohs. Guy and Natalia went with Asch, but given time to let emotions subside Guy realizes that Luke needs him far more the Asch does. Natalia is the only one that really betrays Luke, thinking that with Asch here everything will just go back to what it was before he was kidnapped and thus disregarding the last seven year she spent with 'our' Luke. Luckily she realizes how cruel this is later, but for now she's going to follow the original around with doe eyes.
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Con't:

Also, Anise did the one thing Luke didn't do right after the fall. She took responsibility. She realized what she'd done, and even though she did it for the sake of her parents, she expressed true remorse. Initially, Luke was a lot more concerned with blaming Van and everyone else for what happened to HIM then being even slightly introspective. It's not surprising considering his maturity level, but it's still the exact opposite of what anyone wants to hear from the person who was, directly or indirectly, the cause of the loss of thousands of lives.

Also, Luke is far more mature then seven, even though that is his technical age. Replicas appear to mature faster, eventually catching up with the originals to a certain extent. If this weren't true, then the two year old Ion and Sync would stumbling around, babbling and pissing themselves. Read his journal entries and you can see how mature Luke actually is, often times far more mature then the original.

Honestly, I could probably write a thesis on this.
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Hate to be a buzzkill, but remember what board we're on. Getting a little to liberal with the ladies.
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>Ion and Sync would stumbling around, babbling and pissing themselves

Found that statement funny when I thought about it.

But you make excellent points that even I could never figure out.also, I'd like to read this thesis if your up to it, don't know if you like LiveJournal or not..or even have an account there for the matter but thought you might be interested since /cm/ isn't really the place for Thesis.

>http://community.livejournal.com/talesoftheabyss/

Also I copy/saved your thoughts cause it was really insightful on an game I'm an bit obsessed on.
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One thing I always found a bit confusing...at one point Guy says that he was responsible for the way Luke turned out. So was he the only one that "raised" and taught Luke instead of his parents? Or did he mean that he spoiled him? In a skit he also says Natalia was responsible too.

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Also I second a thesis. I'm on my second playthrough, so I'm also a wee obsessed with this game at the moment
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>>1171600
I think replicas mature faster only because they have the brain capacity for it, but as I've often noticed, age doesn't reflect maturity, but it damn well helps. When you've got years of experience built up you become (hopefully) more mature and intelligent, willing to look at things from more perspectives.

Or at least that's what happened with me. Regardless, it was also the view Namco wanted us to take. Since Luke is the hero and we see almost everything from his point of view, it's natural we're more sympathetic with him then the rest of what the group is feeling, even if he is whining and we know he's in the wrong.

As far as I'm concerned, the decisions he made after Akzeriuth and the actions he took from that point onward were extremely mature for a 7 year old, even one so matured as he. However I do agree with a great deal of your thoughts. On a side note, more picture time.

Have some Sync and Ion, I exhausted my Luke supply.
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>One thing I always found a bit confusing...at one point Guy says that he was responsible for the way Luke turned out. So was he the only one that "raised" and taught Luke instead of his parents? Or did he mean that he spoiled him? In a skit he also says Natalia was responsible too.

From the way things looked throughout the game, I don't this his parents had a lot of time to raise him, since his dad's a very busy Duke (who couldn't even greet his son when he came back from being blown onto another continent) and his mother seemed to take ill frequently. Plus, servants seem to be off limits from him since he was constantly warned not to interact with Pere (not that he listened), added to the fact he couldn't leave the castle... it probably means Natalia and Guy were the people he interacted with the most.

And since Guy seemed to be his main caretaker, he probably feels responsible for letting Luke think it was okay to do half the things he did. Same goes for Natalia. In their defense though, they probably never really thought they were raising someone since Luke was already "ten" at that point.
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So cute I'd become gay JUST for him.
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For you. Merry Christmas.
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>>1171625
Ah, that makes a lot of sense. I forgot he wasn't supposed to be interacting with servants, so it makes sense he'd probably only really talked to Guy and Natalia.

Also, maybe I didn't understand it when the game explained it or maybe I missed it on a sidequest...but why was Asch dying? I remember Jade explaining that he should be fine because any symptoms would have shown up years ago....

And I thought I understood the ending by assuming the person was Luke, but I've also been told it's Asch.
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As far as I know, Asch was only in trouble after that whole replica thing. I could be wrong, I think I missed that part too. Made he screwed up his fon slots or some other crap.

As for the ending, I'm in the firm belief that it's a combination of Luke and Asch. Mostly due to the fact that Luke's body was fading away, so assuming Asch's wounds were healed in... wherever the hell they went at the end of the game, Luke's consciousness fused with Asch's body. It is Luke who has the awareness and control of the body though, mostly due to the fact that one: the Key of Lorelei was sheathed the way Luke does it. Two: it was made to be drawn with the left hand, and Luke is left handed as opposed to Asch who is right.
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But Asch was definitely dead, so even if Luke healed the wounds I don't think that would have brought him back. I just thought Luke took the body, since they're both the same anyway.

On an interesting note, Asch was left-handed too, but he was forced to become right-handed by his parents. Something about using the "proper" hand to eat with? Or so I've heard
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Fapping to this now..

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Thanks for the handsome Ion.
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I suppose both theories work, but in the end the right hand became Asch's sword arm. ... really I just like the idea of Luke coming back better, than he can get together with Tear instead of Natalia.
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Natalia will get upset n' confused and end up marrying Guy. Makes sense to me, princess falls in love with (former) servent.
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Excuse the boobs, but... lookitthatfaceawwwwww!
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>>1171622

Bloody hell, I don't have time to be doing thesis on Abyss when I've got university finals to be dealing with soon. But... I'll think about it. It might be worthwhile to organize all these disjointed theories into something more cohesive.

I don't have a livejournal account (I'm convinced I'd never update the thing), but I do lurk on the Abyss community (and few others) for scans and news and such. For whatever reason I have a healthy collection LJ icons, so should I ever get an account I'm well prepared.

Also, behold, the birth of a namefag (I have too much dignity left to be a tripfag). I figure I chat and spam enough on /cm/ I should get credit for it.
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Damn this threads like still alive (I say that because I had errands thought out the afternoon then Thanksgiving Dinner with the family and also I'm>>1171680>>1171659>>1171618>>1171573>>1171583)

But its all good, well if anyone interested..

>http://1000words.shouki.com/v/abyss/anime/06/
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Luke is my moe.
(even if he did start out kinda mean)
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It's ok, Luke! I won't read it,l promise!
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>>1172175

I'm pleasantly surprised as well. I, of course, had festivities to attend to.

Now where are my screencaps of 8 and 9? No updates make anon sad.
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I know. Wouldn't you just DIE for a pic of Luke with Mieu on his shoulder?
I'm gonna take one right now because that was damn cute.
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I also love Mieu's little look of triumph. Desu no.
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Mieu desu Miiiieeeeuuuuuuuu!
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Wait, where can you read his diary?
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>>1173501

You can read it in-game, but someone was kind enough to post the whole thing over at GAME FAQs.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/929343/45910
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I thought it was a totally awesome take on a game synopsis as you go. I loved seeing it from Luke's POV.
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The only part that was weird to me was when Luke when to sleep for an long time then Asch takes over. It mentions something about Mieu writing in his journal? or something like that. The main thing that confused me was that it Luke saids ((or writes?...wut)); "what mieu was writing in my journal??..that little.." that was when Luke was in his slumber.....right?.?
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>>1174392
Yeah, Mieu wrote in his diary while Luke was asleep/comatose. If you go back one entry, the one called "Replica" I think, you can read what he wrote. The entry before that one, Mieu takes over at the bottom too.
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>>1174392

>When the Tartarus reached Yulia City, Asch was there. Asch said that
Master is a replica of him. Is that why they look the same?

>Master got angry and said that he wasn't a replica, and Asch was really
angry about Akzeriuth, so they got into a fight.

>After the fight, Master passed out. I can understand, with all the sad
things that happened. Poor Master.

>...What does Mieu think he's doing, writing in my diary? Oh well.

Is this what you were talking about? Mieu's so helpful.
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Have I told you how much I love you Anon?
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There was also a skit at one point where Mieu was writing "Today Master called me Thing 38 times"... or something like that. Luke seemed embarrassed. Aww.
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>>1175050

Mieu/Luke OTP. So much D'AAAAAAAAW.
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Also, for those like me and don't have the patience to wait for subs (I'll admit, I watch every ep twice), the RAWs for ep 10 are up on youtube. Moe Luke and Aramis Spring for the win.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9npdB-nipig
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5sME49WXPo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGtr0Nh7AOk
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I have to wait, my boyfriend doesn't understand Japanese. Oh, the torture! I need a Luke fix!
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>>1175193

I watched. I came. I cried manly tears of friendship. ;_;

Episode delivers.

>>1175215

Honestly, I don't even have a passing knowledge of Japanese, but I know the game well enough to get the idea of what's going on. I'll watch again when the subs are out, though.

Next week Keterburg FUCK YEAH