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So it looks like Basch is a new /b/ meme. How bout some 12 love on /cm/ too?
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Really? i didn't think /b/ ever got new memes.
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I thought Ondore was the new meme?
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Either way I have lots.
>> Anonymous
>>192288
Don't believe Ondore's lies!
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it's sad how good this game is and how there's really no good fanart. is it the style? are artists bad at drawing more realistic/medevil style?
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>>192396
I think it is because there are no pretty boy's in it.
As much as I like Balthier and Basch, they dont have overly spikey hair, don't look like a jrock artist, or look like women. I think thats the problem
>> Anonymous
>>192404
I disagree. Larsa is practically a miniature woman and Vaan is so pretty it's almost a turn-off. I do think it's a character design issue though. Yoshida's characters don't translate to anime-style as well as Nomura's shitbox creations do. The number of fanartists that both can do a more rendered, less anime atyle AND that have an interest in this game is pretty small.
>> Anonymous
>>192288

WTF? I'm a /b/tard. I've never heard of this. It's only a meme if it's been there a while. What probably happened is it was a thread or something for a day or at the time you saw it.
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Basch and Balthier are the hottest FF guys in ages. Oh, and Gabbranth, too. And Al-Cid.

I love this game.
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Ondore has been harassing /v/ for a while now, but there's only a few threads here and there about him or Basch on /b/. . .
>> Anonymous
>>192288So it looks like Basch is a new /b/ meme.
Really? Ondore has pretty much been accepted as a meme in /v/, but you don't see Basch in there as often. But this is my first time seeing 192291, so please post moar if it's true!
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Needs more Gabranth. ;___;
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Larsa is is a metric fuckton of love
>> Anonymous
>>192418
Dunno, I think Nomura's chara designs aren't that less complicated than the chara designer for FF12. It's might be that a majority of people haven't finish the game or it's just not that popular yet. I don't think it's of any concern until a few months more pass until the US fanartists get their hand on it.

And I seriously doubt it's because they look like rugged guys either. If that was the case, there wouldn't be a shitload of fanart of Aragon or Bormir in Lord of the Rings or Jack Sparrow from PotC.

I dunno, as much as I'm having a kickass time playing FF12, none of the characters really impress me outside of the Judges (cuz of their armor) and Balthier. That's prolly the problem.
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>>194001
I'd bet a limb that the problem is your last comment; the total lack of outstanding characters. Sure they are all kind of cool in little ways, but not a single playable character shines, and the villains are very, very bland. I love the game and the story is quite interesting so far, but the characters, while I do like them, they just aren't interesting enough to want to draw or write about. From everything I've heard, both online and offline, most people think Larsa seems to be by far the most interesting and original, and I would have to agree. When you first meet the characters you see a lot of potential for what they COULD be, but they always turn out to be very flat.

It's pretty bad when many NPCs have more life and character than all PCs combined.
>> Anonymous
People don't like the characters? I thought the cast in general was more original and endearing than the casts of the past three games. To each her own!
>> Anonymous
I've been trying to do fanart since I picked up the game on Halloween. Balthier's vest is a pain in the ass to draw. I think there's a "practice" gap in drawing the FFXII characters.
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>>193996

AGREED. I think his little boy crush on Penelo is the most adorable ever.
>> Anonymous
>>194143
The solution to Balthier's vest, my dear, is to simply draw him naked.
>> Anonymous
>>194034
Really? Balthier seems to be the favorite among everyone I know. Larsa is all right. A little too goody two-shoes for my tastes.
>> Anonymous
FF12 is good as an RPG.

Shouldn't have been a Final Fantasy.
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>>192418
Not having art that incorporates into videogames very easily is bad. You don't see Amano's flamboyant art ever put into the game. Post pics or GTFO.
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>>194034
Agreed. The battle system and plot is what keeps me playing, which is.. completely different from usual. I like RPGs, shows, books, etc, for the characters, and.. I keep waiting for something interesting to come out of them but nothing comes.

I love Fran and Balthier, but even they haven't gotten much deep character development. We don't see any really emotional/insightful/whatever scenes/moments from the characters, they're all pretty flat. Granted, I'm only a little past halfway through the game, but my friend is right on the final boss and he says there isn't anything really.
>> jenny
I do love FFXII dearly. I'm just sad that the characters didn't live up to the political plot, and frankly, the stunning world. I don't think I've been so utterly sucked into a world like I have been been sucked into Ivalice. But... there was just something... missing.

The FFXII characters are difficult to draw. It's really taking me a while to honestly get USED to drawing them, because as someone mentioned before - it's hard to translate them to a style well, particularly anime-style. They're very awkward.

I find that because FFXII looks so realistic, one has to have a very realistic style to do them justice.

Fran and Balthier are my favourites, though I didn't hate a single character. No one had that generic clone-status to them - Penelo did not end up being a Yuffie/Rikku/Selphie, for example. Characters were unique.

But they didn't have that much... DEPTH. They had the POTENTIAL.

I find Vaan is extremely boyish, and while Larsa threw me off at first, now I can't see how he is girly... he's like 12, isn't he? Lots of boys aren't quite masculine then.

I just wish people wouldn't do the girl-boy thing with Balthier, Vaan, etc... it's just so creepy, especially when Vaan is more built than most guys ever are. Christ.

400+ FFXII pictures, mostly Fran and Balthier, but... 4chan is really slow on my computer, so it's hard to do anything with it. I can rarely upload :(
>> Ulquiorra
>>194476
Realistic design = hard to draw? Man, tell that to every fanartist of any Capcom game ever. That's completely untrue, imo.
Some designs just aren't 'characteristic' enough to translate well into anything but CG. But this I mean... without the small belts and straps and whistles to these costumes, what specific, unique traits do these characters have? Bunny ears? Maybe a small scar most won't see? A vest?? Successful fanart often springs from characters designed with very unique, recognizable details.
..I mean, I haven't played the game, but just browsing, I keep getting names mixed up, whereas with most RPGs I don't confuse people whatsoever.

just my opinion, eh...
>> lilykane
>>194476The FFXII characters are difficult to draw.

QTF. I agree, and this is coming from someone that still does a shit ton of VS fanart and doodles. For me, though, it's not so much that they're realistic; I don't have problems with the faces at all since I'm not exactly animu. But it's just the costumes, I'm not grasping exactly right or even with my usual "eh, close enough" mentality XD. Or believe me, I'd already have finished Balthier, Vaan, Basch, and Larsa art all over the place.
>> Anonymous
>>194476
I don't think they're that hard to draw. I just think there's no inspiration to...