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This seemed like the right place to do this as there's a LOT of Phoenix Wright threads. I'm sad to say I haven't played it, but plan on buying it soon.

Which brings me to the point of this post, I'm curious, as there's many motivational posters speaking of its incredible gayness.

So I ask you, /cm/, exactly how gay is it? On a scale of 1-10? Like, full on "30 hours of continous buttsex could not be gayer" gay or just "omg they looked at each other they must be gay!" gay.

Needless to say I'm hoping for the former.
>> Anonymous
On a scale of 1-10, I give it a 8.
>> Anonymous
It's not really that gay, honestly. We just like to think it is. They seem to be more of rivals in the beginning, and then something like friends later on. It's not like "OH GOD I LOVE YOU WRIGHT TAKE ME NOW." On a scale of 1-10...I'd give it a four.
>> Anonymous
Six.

No buttsex, sorry. :<
>> Anonymous
3 for canon.

9 for slashability
>> Anonymous
Still promising. Any examples of hints or anything to give me a vague idea?
>> Anonymous
>>471226
This anon speaks the truth, alas. There is no actual outright gay canon pairing, though it's heavily implied. You never see so much as an acknowledgement of mutual affection, much less a kiss.
>> Anonymous
If you're a yaoi fan, you will see it. If you're not, you won't necessarily.

Personally, I'd give it an 7-8. No outright buttsex, but Phoenix/Edgeworth is pretty fucking easy to justify, compared to some other yaoi couples out there.
>> Anonymous
>>471241
Yeah I understand it's not actually canon, it very rarely is :( But, heavily implied? That sounds incredibly promising.
>> Anonymous
>>471252

I don't think it's heavily implied at all. The most you see Edgeworth do is smile at him. There's no hugging or blowing kisses or affection-filled words.

If you want a shounen-ai game, this isn't it at allll.
>> Anonymous
UNNECESSARY FEELINGS
>> Anonymous
>>471263
/R/ING SCREENSHOT
>> Anonymous
>>471262
I'm not, I was planning on buying it cos it seemed like an awesome game, everyone had good opinions of it and it was about lawyers (I'm at law school atm) I'm just wondering if all the fangirl squeeing over it is justified or based solely on the fact that they're there, and they're male.
>> Anonymous
>>471278

I don't think it's justified...but hey, if you're going to buy it, you'll base your own opinion on it.
These are -only- opinions, after all. Alot of people think Phoenix is straight.
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>> Anonymous
>>471296

...Which are not towards Phoenix.
Misleading screenshot. :x
>> Anonymous
>>471286
I honestly don't understand that. Phoenix altered his entire life's course, leaving art school to become a lawyer simply for a chance to see Edgeworth again. Early in the second game (no spoilers for those who haven't played it) every time Edgeworth's name is mentioned, he gets tense and snappy. There are several innuendoes scattered through games 1 and 2 that have very significant subtext.
>> Anonymous
>>471301

Because obviously, two guys can't be friends without SEXUAL TENSION AND INNUENDO.
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>>471296
Not just unnecessary feelings. But "UNNECESSARY... FEELINGS."

Along with going through law school just to meet your childhood friend in court and bringing up those not-returned calls, little hints like this set us off into the wild world of slashability.
>> Anonymous
>>471305
I know you're being sarcastic, but you're right, they can't. You can never be good friends with anyone without SOME level of sexual tension or innuendo.
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>>471305
The whole "I changed my life course partially because I wanted to see Edgeworth again" thing makes it a little different than the average friendship, I think.

I could see it either way: staying just friends or as a couple. I like the well-drawn fanart, and I like well-written fanfiction.

But I do at least realize they're not going to just suddenly say, "omg I love you NOW TAKE ME YOU SEXY LAWYER-BEAST" to one another.
>> Anonymous
>>471313
Oh...don't think I'm bashing you. xD I have a Phoenix/Edgeworth folder with over 1,000 pictures.
They're my favorite couple.
I'm just saying not to expect alot of fanservice.
>> Anonymous
>>471310
...Okay, -what-? I hope you're not serious. Because obviously, me, being a straight girl, am totally lesbian for my best friend.
>> Anonymous
>>471310
o shi-... so I am lesbian in some way, right? Shit sucks!
>> Anonymous
>>471324

I bow to you, good sir.
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>>471320
>>471324
lol I love people like this, 2 guys together and its OMG SO HAWT but then you're all like EWW ARE YOU CALLING ME A LESBIAN WTF?

Saying there's some degree of sexual tension in a friendship is not saying "therefore you must be gay!"
>> Anonymous
>>471331

Actually, yes, it does. Attraction = sexual tension.
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>>471334
Your stupidity amazes me. Pic semi related as it's a shade you obviously can't see.
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>>471336

O rly? It's not...grey, is it?

OH EM GEE
>> Anonymous
>>471337
This is one of the most facepalm-appropriate moments of my life.
>> Anonymous
>>471339

...Do you not understand that I'm not an idiot? I understand there are some grey areas in a friendship, but that doesn't mean there's fucking sexual tension.
God, you're an idiot.
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>>471341
lol
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>>471340
lulz.
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We started with gay lawyers and ended with lesbians? I'm disappointed in you, /cm/.
>> Anonymous
>>471331
I don't really mind being a lesbian so stop being a faggot please.
Back to the topic. OP sorry, but I can't tell how gay it is, I don't know this game.
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>>471348
At least there's one sane person here.
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>>471348
A voice of reason? On MY /cm/? 'Tis a fine morning for this Anonymous, now.

Also, needs moar pictures.
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>>471348
>>471351
>>471358
all the same person
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>>471360

Yep, because I'd totally take up for myself to make myself look better. I'm not pathetic, thnx. I think my argument is solid enough not to need a backup.
Keep thinking that, tho.
>> Anonymous
>>471362
Internet: serious business.
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This is now a Phoenix and Edgeworth thread.

Friends, paired, whatever, just post moar fucking pictures and less serious business.
>> Anonymous
>>471212
It's not really that gay. If you think straight and not complete yaoi fangirl mindset then you can see that they're just good friends. (That and there're the girls, but yaoi fangirls don't care about them)

Canon-wise, I'd give it a 2. But an 8 for how, with some effort, easy it is to make it look like there is something there.

>>471301
The reason Phoenix decided to be a lawyer was not only /just/ to see Edgeworth. One fact that also seems to be forgotten is that Phoenix didn't know what happened to Edgeworth. When he did find out, he wondered what happened that the Edgeworth who came to his aide in those elementary school days was now some rumored devil of prosecution.

If you think about how much Edgeworth and Larry's actions affected him, he obviously wouldn't forget them that easily. So this sudden character change of Edgeworth made him want to see him again and find out what happened. It's not the ONLY reason he becomes a lawyer, however.
>> Anonymous
it is really fucking gay.

Seriously, imagine Squall and Seifer, Twink, and the entire male cast of Suikoden gathered around a DS and watching someone (let's say McDohl) playing through Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney. I can guarantee you that the phrase, "Holy shit, this game is really fucking gay" would be uttered more often than "Is someone's hand on my ass?" or "Where did you get that cute little leather jacket?"

It's that gay.
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<---Actual screenshots.

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No, really...
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>>471385
OBJECTION! No, see. Phoenix was studying in an art school first. (See GS3 case 1.) Which means that the class trial didn't inspire him enough to become a lawyer. It was only after he read about "the demon prosecutor" in a newspaper that he decided to become a lawyer, because Edgeworth wouldn't answer his calls and he wanted to meet him.

Of course, Edgeworth's not the only motivation for him to keep doing his job. And the canon hasn't made him gay. But to do something like that for a guy he spent one year with in school as a kid? That sure is gay in my book.
>> Anonymous
Silly Anonymouses, throwing debate in where all the OP wants is a number.

This is what you need to hear: If you're into slashing guys and you're into quirky yet addictive games, you won't be disappointed.

I give it an 8.
>> Anonymous
>>471389
I think I fucking love you.

By the way, apart from "unnecessary feelings" and dropping out of art school to find Edgeworth, there's the whole issue about "OMG WHY IS HE HELPING ME, I TRUST HIM, AS LONG AS HE'S STANDING THERE WE CAN MAKE IT" in GS2 case 4.
>> Anonymous
Honestly, if we wanted to find a canonily possible slash pairing, it would be Gumshoe/Edgeworth rather than Phoenix/Edgeworth... for everybody knows all that "trust" between a prosecutor and a detective is in fact all sticky and sweaty and greatly noticeable between the sheets.
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>>471446
I agree. Gumshoe/Edgeworth set off my gay detector much moreso than Phoenix/Edgeworth. Gumshoe spends the two games practically obsessing over the guy.
When all the first hints of Phoenix/Edgworth showed up, all I could think was 'This is going to spawn far too many fangirlish threads on /cm/'.
>> Anonymous
>>471389
Congrats on stealing Videogamerecaps funny.
>> Anonymous
>>471448
One-sided much? It's there, though, I agree.
>> Anonymous
>>471457

True.. it is one-sided, but Edgeworth calling Gumshoe of all people in GS2 is enough to imply anything to most fangirls.

>>471448

... THANK YOU! I have been craving some fanart for this pairing for a while now.
>> Anonymous
>>471481

This is the anon that posted how it's not that hinty...and got in the argument, but I could supply you with a few pics of Edgeworth/Gumshoe. :3
>> Anonymous
>>471488

I agree that the games are not all that "OMG GAY! *SPARKLE SPARKLE*" but you know how fans tend to search for the smoke in hopes of finding some fire. Some of the characters might give strong vibes of gay (White, anyone?) but yes, there aren't enough hints of any pairings or "sexual tension".

... I would love me some Gumshoe/Edgeworth, oh yes!
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>>471495

I loveee Phoenix/Edgeworth. All I'm saying is that fangirls sometimes don't let two guys be best friends/friends, or, hell, even rivals/enemies without screaming sexual tension.
Even if Edgeworth is a flaming gay, yes he is.

And alrighty, then. ^^ I'll see if I have some. Forgive me if they're reposts.
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>>471500

Acually, I'm not into pairings "much", so I understand how frustrating it could be when fans take every other word/action/glance, etc and use it as DECISIVE PROOF that those two are gay for each other. Heck, I don't mind people shipping whoever/that guy, but it's annoying when they start canonizing their OTP just because they want to make it the most reasonable/they hate another pairing.

Oh yes, Edgeworth is one sexy gayman! In every game, there has to be someone who could be portrayed as canonily gay... Edgeworth is PW's.

... I love you ;-;
>> Anonymous
>>471533

If I find more, I'll post it!
You can tell Edgeworth is gay by his outfit. It's like Austin Powers meets Paris Hilton.
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Kids, wasn´t there and interview with the makers where they said that one of them (can´t remember if it was Edgeworth or Phoenix) found the other at least attractive or just good looking?

>>471533
>In every game, there has to be someone who could be portrayed as canonily gay... Edgeworth is PW's.

How right you are.
>> Anonymous
I heard a rumor over /y/ that the art designer for PW does Yaoi, I saw some of his work and it really has the same art design and stuff..does anyone have those doujin?
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>>471545
That would be just this particular illustrator, Mutobe Ryou. Here's a Fullmetal Alchemist doujinshi by her/him: http://www.mediafire.com/?8tjy6dhu1o5 (not work safe!)
This original yaoi is also done by him/her: http://www.loveless-melody.com/projects/birikketsu.php
>> Anonymous
>>471558
thanks!
>> Anonymous
>>471542Kids, wasn´t there and interview with the makers where they said that one of them (can´t remember if it was Edgeworth or Phoenix) found the other at least attractive or just good looking?

Wright apparently thinks Miles is like a cute little boy, which is true. I'm pretty sure they were making shit up for the interview, like they've done dozens of times before.

Oh wait, sorry.

Ahem.

CANON GAY!!!? THANK ODIN, I CAN'T FAP UNLESS IT'S CANON!!!! I NEED RULES OR I CAN'T FFFFFFFFFUCK FICTIONAL CHARACTERS IN MY MIND WITH A PENIS I DON'T EVEN HAVE!
>> Anonymous
I'm in it for Edgeworth. Who has nightmares every single night of the day his father was killed.
>> Anonymous
>>471616
Anon makes a point. Play it for the game, and the subtext. Slash doesn't have to be canon to enjoy it, nor be the main factor that determines how good it is. Just play the game and figure it out for your self. If all else fails, go read the plotline in wiki, don't play game, and fap to fanart.
>> Anonymous
Late comment, but here: pplenty of male gamers said "Edgeworth's flaming gay", but I bet that was based more on his clothes than deep plot analysis.
The game is very slashable, but if you want CANON GAY you sould stick to BL games.
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Some male, yaoi (and anything vagely related) despising, friends of mine were quite shocked with some of the parts of the game, like the ending of the 3rd case from the first game and case 4.
>> Anonymous
Ahh just finished the 3 episode and I come on /cm/ and I see a thread about Phoenix Wright.... greatness...

If you ask me is can be so gay, just things that they some times say.
Not cannon, but almost.

I'd give it a 8/10
>> Anonymous
>>471296
Ah the end of the 3rd case... so not gay.
>> Anonymous
>>471558
Actual artwork is always gayest.
>> Anonymous
i think its also the defense attorney - prosecutor constellation in the first game that brings tension into the Miles / Phoenix relationship (for yaoifans it would be sexual tension then).
but in the second game there are far less "clues". so i dont think they're really gay..
unless you only play the first game!
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>> Anonymous
Gay lawyer game is gay. Personally, I got through the first half of the game rolling my eyes at the thought of people who would jump on Phoenix/Edgeworth just because they were rivals.

Then I played the latter half of the game. And it just got really, absurdly, ridiculously gay. Hay guyz I knew this kid I was friends with for a year in grade school holy shit twelve years later he won't return my calls I think I'll drop out of my art school and build my future career for a chance to see him again lololololol
>> Anonymous
>>471915

MILES EDGEWORTH? DON'T EVEN SAY THAT NAME TO ME AGAIN! HE BETRAYED ME! I NEVER WANT TO SEE HIM AGAIN! IT WOULD BE BETTER IF HE WAS DEAD! sob, sob, sob, etc, etc, etc
>> Anonymous
I've played the first and the second game and tried to ignore all those "clues". They might indicate something really gay, but I don't think Edgeworth is gay for Wright AT ALL. It wouldn't....fit him. Just so you know, I couldn't even imagine him being with a female character of the game.
Wright is kind of a wimp, so of course he would think more about his feelings and talk about them.
Geez, if there was a real existing Phoenix Wright I'd like to know, what he thinks about people accusing him of being gay for some prosecutor.
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Please don't tell me I was the only one who caught this one, /cm/.
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>>472075
haha oh wow
>> Anonymous
The game is really fucking gay. This is from a person who winds up hetshipping CLAMP.
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>>472075
You'd like that, wouldn't you Edgeworth?
>> Anonymous
>>472075
I lol'd.

Now can people say that Edgeworth is not gay for Phoenix?
>> Anonymous
>>472072

Edgeworth is retardedly obsessed with Phoenix in all three games. OH SHIT WRIGHT HAS A COLD? BETTER DROP EVERYTHING AND FLY ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO SEE HIM. NOT TO MENTION PRYING INTO HIS PAST ROMANCE.
>> Anonymous
>>472075
Oh, for anyone who was wondering, to get Miles to say that, it's in the final case in PW2. You have claim that the Nickel Samurai's outfit was stolen. Even though it's the wrong answer, getting penalized was so worth it. :D
>> Anonymous
>>472029
sure, this is a clue. but if you put that in count you have also to consider phoenix possible affection for maya coz in the second game there were too many incidents which levelled the P/E AND the P/M relationship.
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>>472102
LOL'd.
That's enough proof to me.
Have some little big gaw lawyers, btw.
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>>472075
Oh lawd, I never saw that, even though I've played the game twice! Thanks!

I loev this thread btw.
>> Anonymous
Post some Edgeworth X Phoenix as thats what we all really want.
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Phoenix CLEARLY views Maya as like a younger sister type thing. He's GAY- I mean, he pretty much could have fucked Mia for like YEARS before she died and he DIDN'T. How gay can you possibly get
>> Anonymous
OP here, this thread has brought me much happiness, thank you very much for your opinions.

Oh and seriously, I'm so glad the BAWWWWWWWing didn't amount to anything and the thread got back on track, so rare to see around these parts.
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Now that that's settled -- more gay lawyers
>> Anonymous
Does anyone have any good doujishin?
>> Anonymous
OBJECTION!
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The creator said they both thought the other was cute.
>> Anonymous
It's a great game for those who love slash. There is a lot of dubious "subtext" that fangirls are very fond of. And two good looking lawyers, what else could you ask for?
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>>472429
Ohoho, I forgot about that. Anyone have the link to the interview?
>> Anonymous
>>472508

http://gaygamer.net/2006/10/phoenix_wright_gay_shocker.html
>> Anonymous
So you people haven't played Phoenix Wright 3? I think the fangirls are going to be rather pissed off with that game but hey it has Godot, that a win.

I give it a 3 for canon gayness.
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>>472366
Might as well pimp this, if you haven't gotten it already. http://www.savefile.com/files/974061
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>>472699
I've not played that one... But if theres no gayness whats the point?