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Tieria is a reverse-trap. Doesn't belong here.
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>>616955
gtfo retard, you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
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>>616973
O rly? Prepare to cry and whine, fangirls.
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>>616997
He would sooner turn out to be a robot than a woman, bitter fanboy.
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>>616997

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Stupid dolt.
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>>616973
Though I think he's quite male, myself, I do think it's a possibility. Especially after episode 10. He's definately got some identity issues of some sort.
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FOR THE HERE AND NOW HE'S MALE.

WHAT DOES IT MATTER. WE'D ALL RAPE IT THE FIRST CHANCE WE GOT.

Besides, even with ep10/Nadleeh blah blah in consideration, Tieria is still more likely to just have a pride conflict, not a gender conflict. His "I am.." went from Punkass Bitch to textbook polite (for both genders), not male to female.
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Plus, these are pictures of him as a male - whether he actually is one or not is irrelevant. If ftm genderswitch pictures are fine here, so is Tieria.
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Uh, how do you figure? He freaked because he screwed up 'the plan', there's nothing at all to suggest an identity crisis. Tieria is insanely obsessed with duty and all that, so in having to reveal Nadleeh when he did, it was like committing an irredeemable sin in his eyes, and as far as he's concerned he is weak and worthless because he couldn't fight them off with just Virtue. How in the world could you think this has anything to do with gender?
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The switching of self-referential pronouns: Ore wa, boku wa, watashi wa. It could be taken as a gender issue, though I'm more inclined to agree that it's a matter of pride.

There's also the name "Nadleeh" itself which, um, raises some questions.
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>>617195
well it's not like HE named the unit.

Unit names weren't meant to be taken too seriously anyway. Even before Gundam Seed's slew of religious or self-righteous designations.
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Can't really argue with that. Oh, Japan...
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It does seem like a bit much for coincidence, though - he dresses like a woman, looks like a woman, does the weird pronoun thing AND has a unit named Nadleeh. It wouldn't surprise me if they did bring out some gender identity issues later on.
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He doesn't dress like a woman, and I really don't think he looks like a woman either. Yes he is pretty, but no more so than most other bishounen. And like>>617198said the pilots aren't the ones who named the gundams, so the name Nadleeh could mean anything.

Also, it isn't uncommon for guys in the state of mind Tieria was in to use those pronouns the way he did. It seems very unlikely anything to do with gender confusion will come out. I agree that he is more likely to be a robot/android than anything else, possibly some kind of experiment or prototype. Normal human eyes don't just go all "matrix" like that.

But why am I even talking about Tieria... I don't even like him.
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>>617252He doesn't dress like a woman

Right. Next time you see a guy wearing a pink cardigan, let me know. He dresses like a middle aged lady. That could just be really awful fashion sense, though.

I don't have much of an opinion either way. I just feel like we've been given enough possible hints that we can't write it off immediately.

Can androids cry?
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Oh, and let's not forget the purse.
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Pink cardigan and carries a purse in the ED.
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I think the pronoun thing was just a reflection of his failing self-confidence, and maybe a wink at the fans and to sow a little confusion. Not impossible some gender issue comes up later, but I don't think it's very likely.
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>>617267Can androids cry?
Of course they can, they're a mixture of biological and cybernetic components.

And no, he does not dress like a girl, he dresses like a lot of Ivy League guys do. They favor pastels in general, not just pink. And other dorky shit like sweater vests, terry jackets tied around their shoulders, tennis shorts when they aren't even playing tennis, penny loafers, plaid crap etc. I think it suits his personality quite well considering how snobby and condescending he can be.
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>>617267
This is completely irrelevant, but my dad wears pink and carries a purse.

...should I be worried?
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>>617267Can androids cry?
Of course they can, they're a mixture of biological and cybernetic components.

And no, he does not dress like a girl, he dresses like a lot of Ivy League guys do. They favor pastels in general, not just pink. And other dorky shit like sweater vests, terry jackets tied around their shoulders, tennis shorts when they aren't even playing tennis, penny loafers, plaid crap etc. I think it suits his personality quite well considering how snobby and condescending he can be.

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It's called a tote bag, and yes lots of those guys carry them too.
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I don't think he'll turn out to be a girl, since his height and weight (177 cm and 59 kg) put him far above the range of anime girls. Also, last shot of him in flight suit in ep 10 clearly showed a male figure. However, he doesn't have to be female to have a female gender identity. He could have GID (gender identity disorder) or have been born with a genetic condition like, for example, 5-alpha-reductase deficiency, where an XY fetus can be born with female genitalia but at puberty, can undergo masculinization. Since those often have a female gender identity, it causes a lot of problems. Taking into account the 'Nadleeh' name, I think either of those two might be likely.

Or he might just be some kind of cybernetic human who looks androgynous ¬.¬
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I think the last part is up for debate. In the 1st episode or something like that, there's a shot of both him and Allelujah in their flight suits and...really. There's a huge difference between their lower halves. Tieria's got the waist-hip ratio of a chick and looks like he's got a vagina.
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Haha oh wow. You people are grasping at thin air. Tieria could not be a female any more than Setsuna could grow cat ears. Honestly now, there are very good explanations and reasons for everything that has happened and>>617180nailed it. This "gender crisis" crock is the dumbest idea you people have cooked up yet. Plenty of anime/manga characters have used both masculine and feminine as well as unisex pronouns. That doesn't make them the opposite gender. With Japanese it's all about context, and Tieria was having a mental break down. It's obvious he was using it disparagingly of himself because he fucked up and possibly put Veda at risk, and that is THE worst thing in the world to Tieria.
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Are you blind or just retarded? Newsflash: If Allelujah was in the same pose as Tieria his hips/legs would look the same. Tieria is in a half sitting position so of course his waist and crotch will look different than that of someone standing straight up.
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I can't wait to hear the anguished screams and cries of homophobia from fangirls when Tieria is revealed to be a chick.
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But he won't be, so even if Tieria does have homophobic fans it won't matter. There is like, only a 1% chance of him being a girl, if even that.
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Why do some of you think he used a feminine pronoun? He didn't. Not even once. There was not a single instance where he used one. "Ore wa" and "Boku wa" are generally only used by men, and "Watashi wa" is the standard formal way for people of all genders to refer to themselves. The strictly feminine version is "Atakushi", which he did NOT say. This whole idea that he is gender confused, or a girl, is just an ignorant and completely baseless fabrication.
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HA HA Oh wow. What is this faggotry that Tieria is a girl? If having a deep, very masculine voice is enough. The fact he goes from ore to boku to watashi doesn't not indicate gender switching since 'watashi' is a gender neutral pronoun. It would be different if he said "atashi", which is a feminine pronoun.

I think all this confusion comes from Tieria's mysterious past is a secret and people not used to Yun Kouga's style. As a Kouga fan, I always thought that Tieria was a male because of the eye structure is very atypical of how Kouga draws girls and his prettiness is reminiscent of Kio, Soubi's partner/friend from Loveless.

TL;DR: Tieria is a man, until proven otherwise (although it interesting if he had some gender issues).
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My two cents: I think he's a he-she.

Look Nadleeh up. That name is no coincidence, and neither is it coming up in the same episode where Tieria finally freaks out and sobs "I am" with three different words for I that do somewhat have gender connotations to them.

Gender politics is ground I don't expect a mecha anime to go into.
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My god, if it sounds this much like a man, it's a man.

If Mitsuki Saiga was voicing Tieria, yeah, I might think differently, but Gundam isn't goddamn Day of Revolution. There aren't going to be complex gender politics. It will be about blowing shit up.
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Eh, meant to post this. Tieria, he is a REY.
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The gundams don't have any real personal connection to or reflection of the pilots. Nadleeh was a "dual-spirit" of Virtue, that has nothing to do with Tieria personally.
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There will be much lulz when it is revealed that he is a woman.
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>>618525There will be much lulz when it is revealed that he was never a woman.
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>>618528
>Oh please don't let Tieria be a girl. I hate female characters because I hate myself. I can only like characters if they're male. Please yaoi god. Please.

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I think Sunrise just needs to give him a shower-scene and be done with it.
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I don't hate female characters. The problem is that none of the theories about gender confusion hold even a little bit of water. It's just retarded fanfiction logic on your part.
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>Fanfiction logic

I bet you retarded yaoifags know all about that, eh?
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Everyone knows how retarded it is. Yaoi has absolutely nothing to do with this.
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i buy the theory that Tieria is more likely Veda manifested as a cyborg rather than he's really a girl.

even at the stretch of reason, if Nadleeh's the feminine counterpart to virtue it doesn't reinforce Tieria's dual gender theory. Only setsuna has a special link to his gundam, the others just seem to be assigned randomly. If you want personality matching the MS, Alle would have been in Virtue/Nadleeh.

Tieria doesn't seem to show a specific bond to the suit, just proficiency using it. He could probably operate and own armies in any of the gundams.


In designing the show I think there is more emphasis in giving the MS their own personalities APART from their pilots. Thats just how you sell things. Virtue/Nadleeh is unique design and has it's own personality forming now. It's not necessarily tied to Tieria.

Good god, why am I even going this far? TL;DR insubstantial evidence is insubstantial.

No one's scared of breasts anyway. An attractive character is an attractive character.
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