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I've always wanted a pet crow. How would I go about obtaining one?
>> Anonymous
i dont know.
>> Anonymous
i've had a crow for about a year now. his name is conan.

pick one out of the nest right before it can stand.
>> Anonymous
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here he is bathing :3
>> Anonymous
I dunno steal one out of a nest or something.
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more of conan
>> Anonymous
most birds of the Corvidae genus cannot ever be truly domesticated. The only people who should ever keep a raven or crow are zoological specialists or aviary owners, and that's only if they're unable to survive in their natural habitat (broken wing, etc)

Doing so is cruel beyond belief.
>> Anonymous
>>100162
>>pick one out of the nest right before it can stand.
Yeah, that'll work. You know they make their nests at the top of tall trees, right?
>> Anonymous
>>100162
Did you find Conan on accident, or did you seak him out?

How much work was involved in this?
>> Anonymous
>>100179
>>100182

the nest was neck high, luckily

>>100177

fuck you. he's got more freedom than any parrot i've ever seen, hot food (as opposed to eating cow shit in fields) and an insulated, heated building in which to live
>> Anonymous
>>100184
I'm guessing you've raised birds before, though?
>> Anonymous
>>100186

2-3 magpies, yes
>> Anonymous
I raised mockingbirds that were displaced from the nest by construction in my area.
>> Anonymous
Is there a book or an online source with info on this sort of thing?

I'm guessing most people would have>>100177's stance, so I'm sort of afraid to ask.
>> Anonymous
not really. there are some sites with info, but most of it is common sense
>> Anonymous
99% sure it's illegal to keep any native corvid as a "pet" in the U.S. without a permit. They're legal to shoot, but illegal to keep without some sort of permit. It IS possible to own a non-native corvid, like the African pied crow. You would need to buy it from a breeder, and expect to pay a fair amount of money.

If you're actually serious about keeping a corvid, try working with a local wildlife rehabilitator, nature center, or zoo to get some idea of the amount of care these birds need to be happy and healthy. They're ridiculously intelligent, just providing them with food and shelter is not enough. And taking a crow out of the wild to raise as a pet basically ensures that if/when you decide they are "too much work" and you'd rather just let it be "free" -- that it will die in the wild.

If I knew where "Conan" lived, I'd call the game commission down on his owner's ass immediately so he'd stop spreading bullshit that it's cool and legal to take wild birds as pets.
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>>100239
If you can fulfill the needs of an animal, wild or not, there's no reason you shouldn't "own" it.
if only more people had the ability to interact with more than just dogs and cats, to learn about them and to respect and appreciate them - maybe the world would be just a little bit better.
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>> Anonymous
>>100245
If the animals can do just fine in the nature, why should people take care of them? Really domesticated animals like dogs and cats etc are a different thing, they have evolved to this point and propably that evoltion started naturally and not forced by human.

I can't think that a tiger for example could ever be as happy in a zoo or as a pet as it would be in wild. If it is a endangered wild animal that has gotten injured, then I understand taking care of them, but this taking wild creatures as pets because they are so damned cool/cute/whatever makes me angry. Same goes with people who have dogs kept inside all the time, not walked enough, or cats kept strictly as indoor pets. They deserve to run free too.

>>100245
You're right. If people understood more, and tried to involve as little as possible to the natures ways, world would be a little better.Let's just appreciate them as they are; wild.
>> Anonymous
>>100239

im canadian. :)
>> Anonymous
>>100245

The problem is that the majority of people who say "Oh this animal is cool, I want one for a pet" are going to fail and fail hard at providing it with everything it needs. Like I said, this isn't limited to food/water/shelter -- corvids NEED to have mental stimulation and social interaction. It is very hard to keep a crow as entertained and occupied as it would be in a constantly changing wild environment. Maybe, just maybe, that's why there are some restrictions on what you can "own".

Not saying OP absolutely shouldn't get a pet corvid (although definitely not a random native crow he feels like picking up out of its nest), maybe he's one of the few people who won't fail, but I don't think a crow should die/suffer because he doesn't know what he's getting in to or doesn't take proper care of it. Taking an animal out of the wild does not a pet make.

>>100256
Keeping cats indoors, however, is a good idea for both the cat and the local wildlife. They've been domesticated for thousands of years, they are not equivalent to a tiger. They do not NEED to "run free" to be hit by cars, infected with disease, and to wreak havoc on the local bird/mammal population. Having an "outdoor" cat is equivalent to letting a dog run loose in your neighborhood without supervision, it's just generally not a good idea for the animal's safety. It's not the same as taking a dog for regular walks, which should be done.
>> Anonymous
>>100278
>>Having an "outdoor" cat is equivalent to letting a dog run loose in your neighborhood without supervision, it's just generally not a good idea for the animal's safety.

Oh, shit. Not this argument again. It's like rice cookers in /ck/, domestic vs foreign in /o/, and Scrubs vs House in /tv/.

Jesus.
>> Sage Sage
Sage
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Any animal should not be kept as a pet just because it is "cool". If you're going to have any animal live with you (I don't like to use the term "own" in this regard) you need to be able to take care of it and make sure he/she is happy and healthy.

It would be nice if we could just leave animals alone in the wild, and not try to keep them all as pets. So, I would advocate that the OP not just go and steal a baby crow. Perhaps if he found one that had some problem, and happened to have plenty of experience first, he could. OP, follow>>100239's advice and if you're serious, work at a wildlife rehabilitation place first.

I included this picture of a tiger who lived up in Canada with this guy. He was able to take care of her, and she never attacked anyone. Check out www.qadesh.com for more. And by the way, I don't really think that house cats are totally domesticated. They are able to live out in the wild, either alone or in colonies.
>> Anonymous
i'm not keeping conan because he's "cool". the bird is amazing. there are several people in this household and we each interact with him every day and do everything we can to provide mental stimulation
>> Anonymous
If Conan's happy, then I'm happy. I'm sure you take good care of him.
>> Anonymous
I'd rape the shit out of that bird. Oh god that's so hot. Look at him take that wormy dick.