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4chan, I want a GSD. I have two rescued pets, I have fostered, but now I just want to raise a pet from a puppy for once.

But, breeders. I absolutely hate the slope-backed GSDs that look like they were kicked in the knees. But the straight-backed "European" lines are supposedly almost impossible to keep as pets.

Wtf do I do? I have a very high-drive border collie mix who I keep entertained and happy now, so maybe I could handle a European GSD?
>> Anonymous
We had a German Shepherd years ago. She didn't have the sloped back, and she was a great dog, very great with children. I don't remember what breeder we got her from, though.
>> Anonymous
we bought our German Shepard Jamie from the ghetto for 7 dollars ( 1970 ). we named he after the bionic woman. absolutely the best dog a person could havem we had her 12 years.
no papers, no pedigree, just a shepard, they are the best.
>> Anonymous
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The retarded sloped GSDs are only the AKC super-rigorous breeding. I had a European GSD/Husky mix for 14 years who was the most amazing dog ever: obedient, friendly, loyal, and not stupid like untrained GSDs and even trained Huskies can be.

Still, my dog's mom - the European GSD - was pretty friendly. A little hyper, but friendly. Since you have a border collie, think of one of those as having much more muscle and less overactive hyper and more dominant. As long as you keep them in line, you should have no problem.
>> Anonymous
European
>> Anonymous
>>211367
I'm not interested in supporting bad breeders.
>> Anonymous
>>211388
My current dog is the most submissive dog in the world. What does dominant imply? Just not going to listen sometimes, or sometimes going to try to eat your face?
>> Anonymous
European lines of GSD's aren't impossible to keep as pets so long as you provide an outlet for their incredible working drive. Personaly I'd get into [fucking awesome] Schutzhund if I aquired such a dog. Agility, fly ball and obedience are also good choices, and you can probably get your BC mix into it as well.

Something else to consider if you love GSD's but not the show lines is to visit a shit ton of animal shelters until you find a homeless but beautiful GSD without the slope. They're not uncommon, but they get adopted within seconds. Tell the shelters what you want and they'll put your name on a waiting list.
>> Anonymous
>>211340

Were you interested in purchasing? Where are you located? Give me a call 814-547-8320
>> Anonymous
>>211422
I'm definitely all for rescue, I just wanted a puppy for a change is all. But if I can't find what I want in a puppy, I'll go see what the shelters have. I'm leaning towards that again, just because breeders can be so goddamn shady.

I'm not competitive, so I'm not interested in sporting of any sort, although schutzhund and agility are awesome to watch. My border collie follows me everywhere while I work in the yard or whatever, I throw a ball or whatever he wants with him for an hour every day, go for long walks, take him on trips with me, etc., so he has an active pet life. I wouldn't be able to fit competitive training for a dog in to my schedule.

>>211423
Not from an anonymous post on 4chan.
>> Anonymous
>>211428
Well you could find a good breeder and request a pup with as little drive as possible. All good working GSD breeders temperment test the hell out of their puppies to figure out any potential working prospects, and of course to see who should go to which buyer. The drawback is that some breeders will be reluctant to sell to someone in your situation, BUT you've already got the high-energy border collie as proof that you're somewhat familiar with this sort of temperment, so that'll be in your favor. Contact some breeders, meet and befriend them.