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I've had my betta for 3 years (not him in the picture) and he's always been in a 2gal tank with minimal decoration (mostly to give him room). He's used to being moved around a little when I clean his tank, but I'm thinking of getting him a bigger tank (maybe 4 gal?) with more decor and plants. Will the environment change freak him out/kill him? :(
>> Anonymous
yes he will die
>> Anonymous
no, he will thrive.
>> Anonymous
I dunno, lol
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>> Anonymous
I had one of those. It killed all the other fishes and then died. God damn fishes are lame.
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>>164514
i loled
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Of course he will like it. Zorn went form living in one of those Petco cups to a planted 10g with a few other fish and he's doing great.
>> Anonymous
they love lots of room. just because they can survive in cups doesn't mean they need it or its good for them.
my betta lived in a ten gallon with a couple of plants and a nice canister filter thingy. he was the happiest fish ever.
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>>164518
>they love lots of room. just because they can survive in cups doesn't mean they need it or its good for them.

Not what was asked at all.
>> Anonymous
I had one kept in a small 5 gal tank, he was quite happy, but then we got a 60 gal tank and put him in there with some other fish and he did really well for another year and a half or so.

If yours is particularly neurotic or skittish, I suppose he could freak out, but my personal experience is that putting mine in a larger environment seemed to do him well.
>> Anonymous
put it in your but
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in before bitteranon fags up this thread
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>>164518

Granted, those cups are small, does not mean they "like" a lot of swimming room. They actually live in very small and/or very shallow mud pools in Southeast Asia/Thailand. They don't like a ton of swimming room and HATE fast-moving water, and a 10 gallon filter's water flow can even prove to be difficult to navigate around.

But yeah, as long as they aren't in some enormous tank (I'd probably only house one in a 25g or smaller) and not too fast of water currents, they'll do fine.

4 gallon will be fine granted the plants/decor doesn't block the top of the tank and not allowing him to get some air.
>> Anonymous
I doubt he'll suffer any sort of shock. When I moved my fish to a new bigger tank they were going crazy swimming around and checking it out, like they were reveling in their new space.

Thing is, bettas prefer shallow waters. Their natural habitat is shallow ponds and streams, and areas like flooded rice paddies. If you got him something that was wide and long but shallow he'd enjoy it more.
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>>164570

164569 here, good show mate. I guess you could throw them in a larger tank as long as it's wide they'd be ok. And plenty of room to hide. But anyway yeah, 4 gallon won't be any problem, and he should have no shock granted the water conditions suit him.
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Thanks.
>> Anonymous
your betta is three years old = gonna die real soon, don't bother. :(
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>>164582
Not really. I've heard of many living about 5 years.
>> Anonymous
No, I have two bettas in heavily planted 5g's and they both came from shitty little bowls. They're very happy, just make sure the filter current isn't too strong because they can't swim well against it. I think a lot of people think that larger environments stress them just because they see them sulking in corners in a larger tank, but in my observations that's usually because of the filter's strength and not all of the space.
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>>164582
Yeah...if he was a younger fish I'd move him to the new tank without a thought, but it's the age that concerns me. I don't want to stress him too much at his age. And he may well be older than 3 years...I hear they're usually quite a few months old when they're on store shelves.
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>>164590
If you're really worried about the stress, do a drip acclimation (google it). More space will only do him good as long as you don't just toss him in there, and cycle the new tank fully first.
>> Anonymous
>>164591
Thanks.
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>>164590
An even easier way: Just make sure the water is treated with the usual stuff, and it's the same PH and temp as the old tank. Then move all the gravel and water and filter from the old tank to the new one. No need to cycle then.

And also, as for betta age, as long as they are not in a small bowl, they can live up to 5 years. So don't worry about stressing the guy out.
>> Anonymous
hey my bettas love freezedried bloodworms but i want to start giving them pellets occasionally because i know they have vitamins in them..but all my spoiled bettas just spit the pellets right out! i dont want to force them on them but i want them to have a range of food to make them healthy!
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>>164619
try live foods or frozen foods. most bettas can't resist them, especially if they move around.
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>> Anonymous
If you get about twelve fighting fish at once and put them in the same aquarium they give up trying to fight eachother after a while and you can just have a tank with a bunch of awesome fighting fish

The fins grow back in about a week or two
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>>164625
NO.
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>>164625
Please be a troll.
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when I changed my fish's environment he had vietnam flashbacks
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>>164624
Is a betta macrostoma fine too?
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>>164625
I learned about that from a seedy pet shop. I guess they didn't know anything at all about betta's. They put what I guess must of been an entire shipment of bettas in one tank. I thought it was sad, and also kind of funny at first. They were all fighting, and tearing at eachothers fins. I thought they were either all going to die, or that the pet shop employees would wisen up and separate them. I went back a week later, and they were all still in the same tank with none of them fighting at all, and their fins starting to grow back. Eventually they all looked fine and totally healthy with no fighting or even any nips taken out out eachothers fins. They stayed in the same aquarium together until they all sold out.

I thought it was pretty neat, since bettas are so pretty, but you can usually only keep one per tank. I tried it myself, and it worked the same way that it did in that hole in the pet store. I bought 14 of them and put them all in the same aquarium at the same time. A few months later one of them got into the filter some how and died. I bought two new ones because I couldn't choose which one I liked more. When I put them in with all the others they got attacked. I thought the others might get over it and leave them alone, but they were both dead when I woke up the next morning. I didn't try to add anymore after that. The rest did fine until I had to move about a year later.
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>>164647
I heard from a breeder this is also possible to do if you have a big group of fry born together and then just allow them to live amongst each other as they age. Any new bettas introduced will be killed, though.

All bettas have different aggression levels. I had two male bettas in a 10g with a tank seperator between them. The seperator came undone during the night, and I was initially expecting one or both of the bettas to be dead but they were peacefully swimming side by side. They stayed that way until I got paranoid they'd eventually flip on each other and put the divider back up.

Either way, I still don't recommend anyone tries putting multiple bettas together.
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>>164653
Oops, forgot to add about the info from the breeder-- if there's mixed sexes in there they'll still fight. If it's all just males they supposedly won't though (and we all already knew that females don't fight with each other)
>> Anonymous
You really, really should not put more than two male bettas together. And even then, it should be in a huge tank so they can each stake out their own territory. If you force them together and they fight, you're a sick fuck.
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>>164655
You have it backwards. Two male bettas together in a big space will DEFINITELY kill each other. 12 in a smaller one? Maybe not.

With cichlids there's a common technique called crowding. It's all just males, and there's lots and lots of them in the tank. Without females or territories, the fish have nothing to fight over, and live peacefully. And, provided water chemistry is watched over and it has good filtration and blah blah, it shouldn't compromise their health and especially not their stress since they have nothing to be stressing over. Theoretically, it should work with bettas too, since it's a similar situation.
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>>164647
I don't think it would have worked with only four or five, because then they would have been able to pair off and focus on fighting one on one. Too big a tank would have also allowed them to form territories. The crappy pet store had all theirs in I think about a fifteen gallon. I put mine in forty. They all fought off and on for about three or four days in my tank at first
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>>164656
I didn't even think about the female issue. I never had any in there with them since they are ugly, and I didn't want to breed them and have more than I already did. Maybe they would have all started fighting again if I had added a female. Then again I think they would have all just killed the female.
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>>164661
Both, probably. When I used to breed bettas, sometimes just one male would kill a female (or vice versa)-- I imagine if there was a group of males and one females it'd become a little betta anarchy, with the males beating each other up to get rid of competition and also killing the female whatwith their ritualistic spousal abuse.
>> Anonymous
>>164514
Fuck, yours too? A betta was the first fish I bought; about a year later I got an aquarium with more fish, and by the end of the next year he had killed every other fish in the tank, even the badass Angelfish that was twice his size.
>> Anonymous
Thinking about it reminded me how cool it was having all those betta's in the same tank. I wish I could do that again, but I already have aquariums coming out the ass.
>> Anonymous
>>164663
Did you try putting a bunch of tough fast fish in there?
>> Anonymous
>>164663
Of course a betta's going to kill an angelfish. Angelfish are slow with dangling fins. They're swimming targets for any nasty fish.
>> Anonymous
>>164663
Angelfish have body language kind of like bettas, so they kind of bring it on themselves not realizing it'll get them killed.
I've had five angelfish killed by my spotted climbing perch because they share similar body languege.
>> Anonymous
Ah, Bettas, I had a blue one that seemed to glow almost, and he would CONSTANTLY fight with the other fish, to the point of killing them. He would freak out and suddenly chase all the other fish around, biting at their gills and fins and trying to kill them. Eventually, it was just him and this huge ass black Angelfish alone in the tank and they got along, but they fought each other alot. I know, I should of seperated them but I couldn't.
>> Anonymous
>>164672
Is it story time about stupid fish mistakes now? In that case, I grabbed a pleco around the waist with my bare hand.
>> Anonymous
I used to have a 20-gal tank with 11 black mollies and one betta splendens, and they got on just fine. No fighting or nipping from either side. It was actually really nice having all the black mollies and then one big colorful betta. I recommend it.
>> Anonymous
IS THIS BETTA STORY THREAD?

Once I worked at a pet shop. The fish tanks were along one wall, open at the top. We had a system of filtered betta cups on the back wall, between the tops of the tanks and the light fixtures. It was pretty cool. Some of the bettas managed to jump through the tiny holes in the top of the cups, though. One of them launched himself into the dwarf puffer tank while I was watching. Before I could rescue him, one of the little puffers ambled up and latched onto his flowing tail fins. He went shooting across the tank, puffer still attached, and by that point I had grabbed a net and I rescued him. Very amusing to see.
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>>164582
I had a goldfish that lived for a little over ten years. My Beta that lived with it was like, 8 before it died.
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I had 6 male bettas living peacefully together, then I introduced the guy in the pic. Guess who won?

:3
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>>164569

Goddamn I am sick of the myth that betta fish live in tiny puddles in Asia so you don't have to give them a lot of room.

In reality, bettas live in puddles that, while shallow, are often HUNDREDS OF FEET LONG. Just because you hear the word 'puddle' doesn't mean that bettas live in a tiny spot after the rain, they have PLENTY of room while living in these 'puddles'. So jack asses like you need to either admit you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, or admit you're a terrible pet owner.
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>>164734

I'm just gonna say THE BETTAS for purposes of redundant trolling.

Anyway, my Betta story:

My betta was an incredibly orange and stupid thing that I actually kept in a large glass vase (one of those redundant art deco things that are far too large, far too wide-necked, and far too heavy for actual floral arrangements). Next to the vase was an actual fish tank I had with the usual whatever fancy crud that adults liked and algae suckers.

I was a little kid at the time, and I thought it funny to dangle my finger in the vase and have teh betta try and attack my finger.

One day, the betta thought it hilariously amusing to jump from its bowl to try and attack my finger, aimed the trajectory wrong, and fell into the tank. It proceeded to try and pwn the rest of the fish, and decided to pick on the algae sucker first.

Damn. never knew algae suckers were such vicious creatures.
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Pic is of two of my Bettas breeding

OP, your Betta should be fine if you move him. Just make sure that your new tank is cycled properly, the same temperature as his old tank, and you give him some places to hide until he becomes comfortable.
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>>164752
This picture anger and confuses me.
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>>164754
Why? Are my Bettas getting more sex than you?
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>>164734

im guessing the bettas since the lion fish is a salt water fish and sucks in freshwater.
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>>164755
No.
It just looks like he is mating with her face and there's another female on top of them waiting to get into the action.
>> Taboo Fetish !mEXZ86LiuA
>>164761
That's just a reflection of the female in the water above.
>> Anonymous
>>164763
>It just looks like
>looks like
>looks
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>>164756

Actually the lion managed to poison all the inhabitants of the tank before dieing, which, was fairly quickly. I was so young and stupid at the time, my dad gave me a good scolding.

D:

Don't ask how I got a hold of a lionfish.
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I just bought some frozen bloodworms for my betta (pic), can someone please tell me how much to give him? As in, what size block should I break off?
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>>164767
I'd say about a quarter of a block is enough for a feeding, though I dunno how big or w/e your blocks are.
>> Anonymous
>>164766
how did you get a hold of a lionfish?
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>>164767
Bettas don't have to eat that much. In fact most people overfeed them without knowing it and they die early. One or two bloodworms a die should keep your betta fat and happy.
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Posting random gorgeous bettas from the internets. The ones you never see in the little torturecups at Walmart.
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This fish looks like a goth prom dress.
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WANT
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I would name it Ra.
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Awesome habitat is awesome.
BTW, are silk/softplastic plants or real plants better in a betta tank?
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>>164626

Man, that's a beautifull beta. Yours?
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>>164936
I wish. He's from ebetta.com. Specifically http://ebetta.com/category/questions/ which has several pictures of super-fancy bettas.
>> Anonymous
>>164935

Whichever really...mine always seemed to love swimming through plants, so obviously I got real ones (and no, they didn't have parasites and weren't scratching). If you can maintain the real plants, I'd say get them, they look 1000x better anyway.
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>>164752
if you are going to breed bettas, at least breed pure bloods, bettas with red and blues mixed should never be bred it is just a mess.