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Anonymous
Last night my cat went into labor. She proceeded to have 5 kittens over the span of 4-5 hours. But one of the kittens arms was bent at an odd angle, it also has a small wound of some sort on it's back. Immediately I could tell something was wrong as it was constantly gasping and it barely made any mewing sounds.

After about 10 or so minutes I knew it wasn't getting any better and I knew I had to take action. I knew I had to put it out of it's misery, but I didn't know of any other way than trying to smother it. I figured this was the most humane way.. After 15 minutes of failed attempts I placed it in a ziplock bag and wrapped it in a small hand towel. I sat there craddling the poor thing until I felt all movement cease. I had figured that it was over yet to my horror the poor thing was a live.

At this point I was so distraught I placed the poor bundle in the freezer hoping it would drift off to sleep in the cold and feel nothing. I couldn't bare to check until morning. I just didn't want to chance seeing it still alive for some reason.

Can anyone tell me if I did the right thing? I didn't want the poor thing to suffer. Could I have done something differently?

Also is this type of deformation normal?
>> Anonymous
MURDERER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> Anonymous
You could've called a vet, been told if those deformities could've been fixed, and been assisted in putting it down more humanely. Also, obligatory "you could've spayed your cat."
>> Anonymous
>>165362
I had no choice, really. Don't you think I feel horrible enough already?
>> Bitter Anon !!WJLRQ1cwCyZ
That's really terrible and depressing. I guess it was good of you to try and give it a gentle death, but really, that's a shitty way to do it. Better than suffering for days or being eaten alive by it's mother, I guess.

That seems like a pretty long labor. Was the deformed kitten last or second to last? Also, make sure that all the kittens are eating, and be prepared to handfeed them. If one kitten was deformed, it's possible another may have internal issues as well, so don't be too suprised if the amount of kittens decreases in the first week. Yes, it's terrible and it hurts, but it happens.

Best advice? Get them to a vet. ASAP.
>> Anonymous
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>> eggs !!2YW0PJZXbhy
http://www.alysion.org/euthanasia/
>> Anonymous
That's horrible, but it's part of the responsibility we have to face when we choose to allow new lives to be brought in to the world. Sympathy. But, fucking spay her so neither you nor any kittens she would have have to go through this again.
>> Anonymous
>>165367
There isn't a vet within 25+ miles. Even if there were a vet within my area this was at 2am.

The deformity of the leg might have been something that could be fixed, but the gaping wound on his back I assume would not have been. I actually believe one of it's lungs may have collapse.

My cat's husband impregnated her, they are both indoor cats. We didn't want to rob her of her right to have kittens.
>> Anonymous
>>165370
It was actually the second of 5 kittens.

As I stated before I believe it's lung was collapsed and it almost appeared to be having tremors.
>> Anonymous
>>165377
Oh you fucking retard. She's a cat. God, this is just... infuriating to hear. I work at a shelter. A kill shelter. Where kittens are put down all the time. Cute fuzzy little litters of kittens just like the one your cat just had, except probably healthier and more suitable for homes. Your cat doesn't have a RIGHT to have kittens. You have a responsibility to do the right thing for the whole and for your pet. And you didn't do the right thing.

Also, you call an emergency vet, they're there 24-7. They could've assisted you. The fact you didn't know this says everything about how responsible you are. You should've known something like this if you intended on responsbily breeding your animals.
>> Anonymous
>>165380
I fail to see how you get to decide how cats that live within my family live. How are they not allowed to have kittens? My cats are all indoor cats. They don't go outside and mate with feral cats. I'm sure it's hard for you to deal with putting down feral cats, but this was not the case.

Also regarding 24/7 emergency vets.. I live in the middle of BUM FUCK NO WHERE! Granted you may live close to such amenities I DO NOT. So before you go preaching try to put yourself in my shoes.
>> Anonymous
>>165382
I didn't say you could go in to the emergency vet office, I'm saying if you called one they could have, OVER THE PHONE, told you what to do.

Do you know how smart cats are? Dumber than a 4 year old human, probably. Tell me, do 4 year olds have the right to make a decision to have babies? Can they even make that decision? How the hell does a cat have a husband and a "right"? Because children and animals have lower intelligence than you do, it is YOUR responsibility to make beneficial decisions for them. And how is it okay because she's not feral? Do you think the kittens in shelters don't come from homes, ever? What does being an indoor cat have to do with anything?
>> Anonymous
What the fuck is up with /an/ today and killing animals?


Yanno, I'm going to look past the killing part.
But reading>>165377really makes me want to go all internet badass.
She is a fucking CAT. An animal. She will not hate you if you take away her 'right' to breed. She will get pregnant again right after the kittens are weaned. And you'll have a thousand fucking cats everywhere, all inbred and more deformed.

Kill yourself. You need to be spayed so you don't shit out any more retards.
>> Anonymous
OP here: Thank you to all of you who have replied in a positive light.

I realize this sounds horrible, but I couldn't stand seeing it suffer. I love all animals and would never want to see one die, but when you're faced with living for a very brief amount of time in who knows what kind of pain I say it's better for you to drift off peacefully. Again thanks to all of you who have replied.
>> Anonymous
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You destroyed a deformed baby... you are truly a Spartan.
>> Anonymous
>>165377

OK, you didn't know what to do, and tried to do the best thing you could think of. There were probably better ways to do it, but I'm not going to judge you for that. However, you went on to say this:

>>My cat's husband impregnated her, they are both indoor cats. We didn't want to rob her of her right to have kittens.

There is so much wrong with this statement. They're both YOUR pets, it's not "robbing them of their right to have kittens," it's called "being a responsible pet owner." If you knew there wasn't a vet nearby and you weren't planning on taking her or the kittens to a vet, why let her get pregnant? Are you really prepared to make sure all 4 of these kittens and all the future litters are going to be properly taken care of in good homes? If you're interested in the best thing for your cats, just get them fixed already, for fuck's sake. People like you that let their cats breed for the hell of it are the reason there are so many cats in shelters.
>> Anonymous
>>165383

Don't even bother trying to explain it to OP. Despite OP's honest intentions, he is obviously a fucking retard and does not understand the world in a realistic, objective, or even remotely rational manner. Just let him believe that he did the right thing so that he can just go back to reading Agatha Christie novels and watching Oprah, because anyone who refers to his cat as having a husband never going to "get it."
>> Anonymous
>>165385
see
>>165375
for future reference
>> Anonymous
>>165385
You DON'T care about animals if you aren't responsible enough to spay your fucking cat. You are just bringing more unwanted, deformed kittens into the world.

Good going, asshat.
>> Anonymous
>>165389
EXACTLY. God, I wish so bad people would actually listen to sense like this. But they won't. /an/ should depress the fuck out of anyone who cares about animals, with all the stupidity we see here.
>> Anonymous
God OP is the biggest retard on the surface of the fucking world.
Jesus. Fucking. CHRIST. if you believe YOU'RE right, then clearly EVERYONE should do what you do, right? lest they rob their cat of a 'right'? EVERYONE should just let their cats have babies and make that choice~! Its an ANIMAL it does not procreate because it wishes to raise children, it procreates because it is just attempting to keep up its species. It will keep constantly having babies because its body is an endless cycle of this- because its nothing but an animal, with animalistic natures, going through heat.
People need to stop thinking of their animals in terms of human emotions. A cat could not give a SHIT if it had kittens or not. It will not look at all the other kitties in the neighborhood having kittens and go "ho, hum, how I wish I could raise my own litter, shame my horrid ownder spayed me!" if it is fixed.
God I need to get away from this thread.
>> Anonymous
Fuck you /an/, I need to go hug my rescued cats. Someone's going to come along on this thread soon, going BAWWW(etc) or CRY MOAR or something else like that, so, in b4 internet tough guys.
>> Anonymous
i refuse to believe that>>165370is bitter's only post in this thread
>> Anonymous
>>165407
Bitter doesn't participate in controversial topics because he doesn't want his e-reputation ruined.
>> Bitter Anon !!WJLRQ1cwCyZ
>>165411
Bitter stays out of threads like this because they devolve into discussion about his penis.
>> Anonymous
>>165415
If you didn't want to talk about your penis, you wouldn't have to. Could still contribute actual opinions in a controversial debate. But, being liked on 4chan is high priority.
>> Raccoon
>>165360
Use a gun or a Heavy Splitting Maul. I know, they sound kind of painful (not to mention Messy), but, they are exceptionally quick, compared to half-smothering the damn thing, and then lobbing it into an icebox.

Damn.
>> Anonymous
Most likely that kitten had SPINA BIFIDA, and you killed a cat who would've just had its back end paralyzed with proper veternarian care. Course, nobody wants a crippled cat, DO THEY? And life just isn't worth living as a crippled cat. If you continue to let your cats breed this condition will happen to other kittens as it is genetic.

I hope your other kittens die through your stupidity as you unknowingly expose them to infection, cold, and ignore any warning signs they may exhibit. Because your dumbass mom cat knows best--that's why a third of newborn kittens die! "Oh, aren't they cute, squirming and mewing, dear?" WHOOOPS.
>> Anonymous
>>165433

lol someone cares about animals too much
>> Anonymous
>>165435
I saw it coming, didn't I?>>165401Indeed, I did! I know just how stupidly apathetic people can be towards sentient life forms.
>> Anonymous
The blender is the only way to be sure.
>> Anonymous
ITT: People who are easily trolled
>> eggs !!2YW0PJZXbhy
>>165441
itt /an/
>> Fringe of Sanity
Reall? The best thing you could have done? Chop its head off with an axe.
>> Anonymous
>>165457
No, OP could've chopped off their own head with an axe. Not only would it take admirable talent to do, it would also do the world a favor.
>> Anonymous
>>We didn't want to rob her of her right to have kittens.
>>We didn't want to rob her of her right to have kittens.
>>We didn't want to rob her of her right to have kittens.
>>We didn't want to rob her of her right to have kittens.
>>We didn't want to rob her of her right to have kittens.
>>We didn't want to rob her of her right to have kittens.
>>We didn't want to rob her of her right to have kittens.
>>We didn't want to rob her of her right to have kittens.
>>We didn't want to rob her of her right to have kittens.
>>We didn't want to rob her of her right to have kittens.

YOU.
ARE.
A.
FUCKING.
IDIOT.
>> Anonymous
Well OP...

Next time, have euthanasia ready. No mess, no pain. Better than suffocating and freezing.

People have probably menioned it before but meh. I didn't read through the whole thread.

Other kittens do alright? Hope so.
>> Anonymous
>>165380
Off Topic: Since you work at a kill shelter, could you give some tips at quick and painless ways of euthanizing suffering animals in emergency situations (that is, when you can't find a vet and can't get any outlandish substances). Preferrably ones that don't involve brain tissues splurting on the euthanizer.
>> Anonymous
>>165377>We didn't want to rob her of her right to have kittens.
You are a fucking idiot, and a really fucking irresponsible pet owner. I hope you get both your cat's and your own reproductive organs removed. About 5 minutes of fucking research would have showed you that spaying your animal is GOOD for her, and prevents problems later in life, in addition to NOT FUCKING CONTRIBUTING TO THE ALREADY PROBLEMATIC UNWANTED CAT POPULATION. The first thing I did when I got my goddamn cat was to get her her shots and have her fucking spayed. It's better for her, for me, and for everyone. You don't deserve to own an animal.
>> Anonymous
ITT Faggots who think they are gods by mutilating cats
>> Anonymous
Also it sounds like your cat is a carrier of Spina Bifida, GOOD JOB SPREADING CRIPPLING BIRTH DEFECTS ASSHOLE.

The most humane way to put down a small animal without access to proper euthanasia is probably gonna be a .22 to the skull.
>> Anonymous
Smothering = suffocation = least humane form of oxygen deprivation. How do you not know this? Have you never held your breath? The pain is because of carbon dioxide increase, not lack of oxygen. Drowners nearly always have water in their lungs because even breathing water is preferable to breathing nothing.

Just as dumb is euthenasing something by putting it in a bag - breathing your own exhaled carbon dioxide feels just as bad as breathing nothing.

If you have no painless way of killing something, at least do it fast. Smash it at the base of its skull with a hammer as hard as you can without missing. No lower brain, no pain. If you can't stomache that then you don't really care if the animal is suffering or not, so you might as well just leave it to die.
>> Anonymous
Last night my cat went into labor. She proceeded to have 5 kittens over the span of 4-5 hours. But one of the kittens arms was bent at an odd angle, it also has a small wound of some sort on it's back. Immediately I could tell something was wrong as it was constantly gasping and it barely made any mewing sounds.

After about 10 or so minutes I knew it wasn't getting any better and I knew I had to take action. I knew I had to put it out of it's misery, but I didn't know of any other way than trying to burn it. I figured this was the most humane way.. After 15 minutes of failed attempts I placed it in a ziplock bag and filled it with zippo fluid, lighting it ablaze. I sat there craddling the poor thing until I felt all movement cease. I had figured that it was over yet to my horror the poor thing was a live.

At this point I was so distraught I placed the poor bundle in the boiler hoping it would drift off to sleep in the bubbles and feel nothing. I couldn't bare to check until morning. I just didn't want to chance seeing it still alive for some reason.

Can anyone tell me if I did the right thing? I didn't want the poor thing to suffer. Could I have done something differently?

Also is this type of deformation normal?
>> Anonymous
>>165641
In other words, OP, you're a dumbass.

-- You shouldnt own pets if you cannot take care of them --

Spay yourself, I know you're a chick, sad to say its bashing my own gender but DAMN, you're pathetic.

If you're a guy then you SERIOUSLY have problems.

Cat's husband? Cats dont get marry, they just fuck and cuddle.
>> Anonymous
If you aren't a troll, please allow me to smother you, put you in cellophane, and then lock you in freezing cold.

It's not humane. It's very painful.

If you are a troll, good job on trolling me. I want to smother you.
>> Anonymous
>>165630

ITT fucking retards who would rather let cats multiply unchecked and leave the excess kittens to either die slowly from starvation, be euthanized, or live out miserable lives in shitty no-kill shelters while meanwhile claiming some bullshit moral high ground because it's "natural."

Faggot.
>> Anonymous
Man, you wouldn't think that a newborn kitten would be that hard to kill. I've seen their heads just fall off like nothing.
>> Anonymous
Proper research would show here to stab or shot to paralize all involuntary muscles (i.e. heart, lung, digestive system). Half way the psyche class they taught us where to stab if you wanted some one dead in a minute. No, the heart alone will take several minutes to bleed to the point of no return. Granted it will stop before any ambulance can take you to E.R., but you still will die. Asphyxiation takes several minutes also.
>> Anonymous
cats r funi
>> Anonymous
>>165729
Pic of the hard-to-kill alien from X-Files would go well here. Darn these board rules.
>> Anonymous
>>165588
I work with the animals one on one as a socializer. I don't kill them, I just get to know they've been killed. The vet does the euthanasia. Either way, I didn't think it took much brain power to figure out the quickest, least messy way to kill a small animal would be cervical dislocation. http://nwco.net/0531-StepThreeLethalToolsAndTechniques/5-5-0-CervicalDislocation.asp
>> Anonymous
>>165783
Spine snapping, eh? Knife/dagger not good enough, eh?
>> Anonymous
>>165437
And it amazes me how arrogant and uppity animal lovers get when you question their morals. Did you ever consider spending the same amount of money that you spend on your pet on people instead? Of course not. You need your precious Cuddles to keep you company because no one understands you and you're in such a cruel, cruel world.

It's okay though. Everyone cares more about their personal happiness than other's. Most people don't think they're on the moral high ground for taking care of a different species and most likely ignoring their own, though.
>> Anonymous
>>165815

Most people spend twenty times the money they spend on pets on other people. It's called having kids.
>> Anonymous
>>165816
despite what you may think, people who own pets do not automatically have children. And the point wasn't spending money. It was caring more about what happens to a pet you've never even seen than you do about a person you've never seen. Way to miss the point though, I commend your ignorance.
>> Anonymous
>>165819

That's why I used the word "MOST," you faggot, to account for those who do not. Way to fucking read, you retard. That post wasn't even TL;DR.

MOST (in fact, I would say everyone except maybe Bitter) of the people here who are upset about a kitten suffering would also be upset to see a human suffering the same way. Having compassion for a creature of another species does NOT preclude people from having compassion for their own species. It's absurd to think so, and you are a moron if you think that.
>> Anonymous
>>165827

obviously, no one can care about animals and humans at the same time. ever. its just not logical. lol.
>> Anonymous
>>165815

The irony of this post is that you probably don't give a shit about people, either. Douchebag.
>> Anonymous
You damn idiot, the best way would have been to tie it inside a sock, add a rock for weight and throw it in the river.
Death within seconds, unlike your fucked up attempts.
>> Anonymous
>>165838

But I give you props for having the guts, and compassion, to actually try to end it's miserable life.
Calling a vet for kittens of all things is just a waste of money, at best considering you have 4 other kittens.
>> Anonymous
OP is a sick bitch.

i second almost everything that has been said ITT
>> Anonymous
this has got to be the best troll on /an/ in a while.
>> Anonymous
>>165829
I don't own pets. I donate to charities that aid whatever cause I believe best. And I'm a child therapist.

>>165828
>>165827
dur dur dur. Reading comprehension. A person who spends money on pets could just as easily not have a pet and instead spend that money on children who are starving to death on our streets. And then, those same people cry about some animal that has about a 50/50 chance of being completely made up.

So no, they would not be as upset to see a person suffering the same way, because chances are they do every fucking day.

Let me pose to you this question:

Suppose that your brand new car stalled on some train tracks. And you hear a train coming. Now, there's a three way switcher for the train. But, you notice that on one of the other sets of tracks is a an unconscious puppy (or kitten if you hate dogs. some kind of cute baby animal). And what's this?! On the third set of tracks is a young crippled man whose wheelchair is stuck on the tracks! You can choose which the train hits and destroys, so what do you do? Hopefully you said your car. So why do you let the child die in reality? You don't have to have a new car. In fact an automobile isn't necessary in most cases. But even so, a child dies something like every 30 seconds in africa.

Stop weeping over a fucking cat and go donate to a charity you miserable pieces of shit.
>> Anonymous
>>165852

All I can say is "bye-bye Rover".
>> Anonymous
>>165856
at least you're honest about it.
>> Anonymous
>>165852
Automobile??? Why would I have one of those infernal things? Please for the love of god shoot me to kill if you see me behind the wheel. Although you did not say what was in the train... what about tarring the tracks???
>> Anonymous
I think that if you take onto yourself the responsibility of owning a pet you are responsible for it's health and well-being. You need to be prepared for the financial responsibility and also for possibly having to make a decision that will end it's life.

However, I am not responsible for the care and well being of every other human being on the planet. If I can spare the money to make a donation, I will.
But if it comes down to spending the $20 on my cat's shots or sending $20 to a childrens fund I'm spending it on my cat because it was my choice to own it and therefore my responsibility to take care of it.
>> Anonymous
>>165852

Fuck that, the puppy ain't worth the $20k+ I just spent on the brand new car.
>> Anonymous
>>165872
You only have time to switch the track over. There are no rocks large enough to derail the train or anything like that.

>>165873
First sound response. And I agree that once you've taken on the responsibility you should see it out. But why take on that responsibility in the first place? And if you do, don't be so stupidly sentimental that even a story that's probably fake gets you teary-eyed over an animal.
>> Anonymous
>>165883
I take on that responsibility because I choose to. I don't ever plan on having children (I'd make a shitty mom) and I've always had a cat ever since I was a kid. I just enjoy having them around. They're less obtrusive than children, they're quieter than children and hey, much less expensive and much less whiney and demanding.

I don't think this makes me a terrible person. And at least I realize that I'd make a shitty mom and I refuse to let a kid suffer because of my own ineptitude. :-)
>> Anonymous
As for the sentimentality part? Well, I'm just a marshmellow and cry equally over sad animal AND people stories. :-)
>> Anonymous
>>165873
Also, what if it came down to paying five thousand dollars for the pet? Where does your responsibility to it end financially? Or does it? Just how much would you spend on a pet instead of on a person you didn't know? What if it was an acquaintance of yours? A friend you hadn't talked to in ten years? Or just a person who is sitting in the street in front of you?
>> Anonymous
>>165852

I don't know about everyone else, but I'd take the puppy option.
>> Anonymous
IF ONLY THERE WAS SOME TYPE OF...DOCTOR. FOR ANIMALS. PERHAPS SOME KIND OF...ANIMAL DOCTOR? But alas, such a thing does not exist. Clearly depriving it of air and then shoving it into a freezer to die a cold, lonely death was the right thing to do.
>> Anonymous
>>165886
I can respect that. I don't particularly want to bring any more children into this world right now. But, I don't want pets either.
>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
>>165889
It depends entirely on the circumstances of my pet's illness. If it's a case such as, for $5,000 my pet will continue to live it's normal and happy life for 10+ years then yes, I'll pay it. My vetrinarian is really nice and will work out a payment plan for their clients budget.
If it's $5,000 and my pet will only have a 10% chance of living and even then it would live painfully then I'd probably choose to have it euthinized rather than let it suffer.
If a friend or loved one needed financial help I'd help out as much as I could, but let's face it, you can't save everyone/everything.
I would help start and organize a fundraiser for my friend/family member. The point is that I'll help WHEN AND WHERE I CAN.
I'm not going to go broke over someone I don't even know and I seriously doubt you'd be willling to either.
We all have our own personal responsibilities that we choose to take upon ourselves. The point is that we recognize what we can take upon ourselves.
>> Anonymous
>>165815
Way to straw man. When did I say any of those things in that post? But, if you need to pretend I did so you can bitch at an invisible target and feel better, go ahead. I love both people and animals. I'm working on getting a PhD to become an educational psychologist so I can help children with learning problems. What I don't love are irresponsible people who expect hugs and asspats on 4chan after making huge mistakes and trying to come up with excuses for it.
>> AnonyVet
It is situations like this that make me wonder why there is not a way to prevent people who should not have pets from having them.
>> Anonymous
>>165852
I really hope you're not a real child therapist. Your logic is upsettingly off. So, if someone chooses to care about animals, that automatically means they can't care about anything else? ...what? If it came between a human and an animal, I would save the human. If I could save both, I would. Are you saying that in order to be kind to humans, I have to not care about animals? Why can't a person care for both?

Most importantly, what does being pissed off over some lady being irresponsible about her animals have anything to do with any of that? I don't see how that causes a child to starve to death.
>> #sage Anonymous
#sage
>> Anonymous
>>165852

Then why are you on 4chan? You could have donated the money you bought your computer with to help starving kids. That internet connection at home probably costs, what, twenty bucks a month? That could easily feed a child starving in Nepal or Burkina Faso.

Do you drive a car? Buy gas? Own a home larger than single bedroom with a kitchen and bathroom? Own a TV? Have basic cable? Those are all luxury items that you could have well used the money from to help others. Instead, you are sitting on a moral high horse and judging a bunch of people who chose to GIVE A SHIT about the suffering of another creature.

Fuck you, you hypocritical piece of shit.
>> Anonymous
oh god
what a tragic world in which we inhabit
>> Anonymous
my friend's mom breeds dogs and keeps a water bucket next to the birthing area to drown obviously disfigured pups once they come out of the womb. i can't tell you if you did the right thing, but at least you're not alone.
>> Anonymous
>>165852
Just shut the hell up.

There are thousands of unwanted, homeless kids out in the world, just like there are animals.

However, when an animal is born deformed, sick, or can't find a home, we kill it.
Do you have any idea how many babies are born not breathing, with tumors in them, or otherwise terribly flawed? How many babies are born, hospital KNOWING the parents damn well can't afford it?

It'd be terribly inhumane to sweep homeless, sick, or deformed kids up and put them down. I do believe that would officially be "cruelty."
But because pet owners DO often put their animals down when they're suffering too greatly, or when they're born flawed and won't live a good life, that's more kindness.

So they didn't drop 20 dollars in a goddamn Save Darfur box. They put their pets down when they were suffering or couldn't find a home.

What are you doing for the kids born in the same situation as those pets? Giving a dollar here and there?
Do the humane thing and off'em, if humanity is what you're so straight about.
>> Anonymous
should have broke its neck, real fast like. poor thing.
>> IAEYFGIDGHID!! Anonymous
You're an idiot. The kitten could definitely have lived a good life, it just needed to be taken to the vet. How could you possibly bear to do that to a beautiful creature? Don't try to explain yourself. You murdered that poor kitten.
>> Anonymous
>>165852

Wow, another faggot who thinks he is somehow more moral and thus a better person than everyone else on /an/ just because he drops some spare change in the Salvation Army's donation box every once in a while. As soon as you actually donate several years of your time with the Peace Corps, Doctors Without Borders, or some other nonprofit humanitarian organization that does more for the poor and downtrodden in third world nations than just sending them a box of used clothes, maybe THEN you can lecture the rest of us for being concerned about the welfare and possible inhumane treatment of a kitten. You're a child therapist? I wouldn't let my kids within fifty feet of you.
>> Anonymous
OP, you are a fucking idiot.

If you are going to put the kitten down, at least do it with something that will kill it painlessly. Takle it outside and smash its head with a brick or shoot it with a 9mm.

All you managed to do was increase its suffering exponentially by trying to kill it in ways that to you seemed "nice". Put a fucking bag over your head and see how you like suffocation. Or better yet, step outside in the dead of winter and die of exposure. You'll get to see how "nice" you were and how much more you may have just prefered a bullet to the head and end the suffering instantly.
>> Anonymous
Well, /an/, I hope we've all learned our lessons. Don't act morally superior when you're not, when in doubt break its neck, and spay and neuter your pets. Thank you and good night.
>> Anonymous
Why do people assume there must have been a vet ready and available to save this kitten, or that doing so would have been affordable? It's a nice fantasy but things don't work like that in the real world, particularly on the weekend.
>> Anonymous
>>166033
my vet is open 7 days a week, why isn't yours?
>> Anonymous
>>166033
Read the rest of the thread and see all the responses for how more humane euthanasia could've been carried out. Also, if OP had no vet/couldn't afford it, they should not have pets, period. And the kitten dying was only half the problem here.
>> Anonymous
>>Suppose that your brand new car stalled on some train tracks. And you hear a train coming. Now, there's a three way switcher for the train. But, you notice that on one of the other sets of tracks is a an unconscious puppy (or kitten if you hate dogs. some kind of cute baby animal). And what's this?! On the third set of tracks is a young crippled man whose wheelchair is stuck on the tracks! You can choose which the train hits and destroys, so what do you do? Hopefully you said your car. So why do you let the child die in reality? You don't have to have a new car. In fact an automobile isn't necessary in most cases. But even so, a child dies something like every 30 seconds in africa.

i would leap out and save myself. self preservation and all that

and also... WTF is up with you grammar nigga?
>> Anonymous
>>My cat's husband impregnated her, they are both indoor cats. We didn't want to rob her of her right to have kittens.

yah OP, just to clarify what others have said so far *ahem* UR STUPID

now get back to your horny little kitten-making machine
>> Anonymous
Fucking suffocation... you picked the most painful death ever

Good fucking job, OP
>> Anonymous
>>166006
This is something I'll never understand. If we know a puppy or a kitten is doomed to a short life full of suffering, we euthanize it. If we know a baby is doomed to a short life full of suffering, we say "well, it's okay for it to have a horrible life, because it is a human, and human life is sacred beyond anything". It's not really the baby we are considering there, it's our own emotions.
>> Anonymous
>>166065
Yup. Sometimes, the preservation of life is just selfish, regardless of species. But there's always people who will look for whatever option is kindest for their own conscience first. Relating to this thread, it's easier for someone to stuff a kitten in a freezer than to break its neck with their own hands-- out of sight, out of mind. But it's sure not helping the one it's intended to help.
>> Anonymous
>>Suppose that your brand new car stalled on some train tracks.

I smell punitive damages!
>> BACK OFF!!!! Kayla
Seriously you all need to take a chill pill. The person feels bad enough having to do something like that and now you are dissing him/her for asking for help. Heaven forbid any of you be in such a situation. Interestingly enough my parents have been breeding animals for a while now. Vets do have a closing time! Emergencey vets do not exist in small towns and the chances of getting ahold of one at 2 A.M. are slim to none. Sure the person could have waited until morning to take the kitten to get checked out but it was going to be dead by then anyway just a harsh hint at reality. Animals, much like people, are born with ailments! Not every single one of them is going to make it through every time!!!! It hurts to have to kill a young animal especially after it just had the gift of life handed to it so shut up and be thankful the person was nice enough to ask. He/she did the right thing in putting it out of its' misery and I applaud them for having the willpower to do that. All of you say let it suffer longer by waiting 'till morning to take it to the vet. I say you people are inhumane and retarded as hell.
>> Anonymous
you should have taken it to a vet. i don't know about the law where you are, but i know for a fact that right here you'd be charged as a criminal and forbidden from keeping animals, besides anything else they decide to do to you - which i guess would be a fine or conditional discharge, although i know jack about the sentencing

dude

i know you're feeling bad, but you're a retard

or a troll
>> Anonymous
>>165377

>My cat's husband impregnated her, they are both indoor cats.

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>> Anonymous
     File :-(, x)
You only let your cat have kittens because you're immature and wanted an excuse to have them for yourself - just like the 'it was too far to the vet' excuse, you're externalizing, as in blaming, somebody else.

However, because you're posting this here and not on myspace or lj, you're blatantly a troll. A talented troll.

Good show, old chap. Good show.
>> Anonymous
the idea of freezing a kitten to death makes me want to vomit
>> Anonymous
>>166166
So its not ok to wait until morning to give it a quicker less painful death or a possiblity to live. But it is ok to give it one of the most painful deaths it could possibly have? yeah thats fucking humane. Regardless it sounds like the cat had to suffer all night, being suffocated, then frozen. all with his deformation also causing its pain. It would of hurt it alot less for the kitten had she let it sit there and tried to take care of it until morning.
>> Anonymous
trollroll.
>> Anonymous
Fuck you all, my cat has a gay husband, they do aerobics with me in the morning, we eat at the same table, and they enjoy going on double-dates with friends.

If my cats want to adopt a kitten or two together, I'll wholeheartedly support them.
>> sage sage
good troll is good

but better sage is better
>> Moonbarker Osbourne
OP is obviously a troll, quit feeding the troll
>> Anonymous
maybe you could take it to a vet and get a humane euthanasia
holy shit