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Im looking to get a pet red fox i wana get is as a baby or pup what ever you call them as baby
>> Anonymous
Good for you, enjoy your urinated-upon home. Red foxes are horrifically smelly.
>> Anonymous
>>184556
i was told you can potty train them and remove the cent glands
>> BurgundyStone !gbkUU57rKA
If you don't even know what to call it I can hardly imagine that you need one as a pet. Why not get something domestic, asshole. You can't even raise it.
>> BurgundyStone !gbkUU57rKA
>>184558
...*scent
>> Anonymous
>>184558
No, you cannot housebreak a red fox. SOME rare fennec foxes can be mostly housebroken, but it's not in the same way as a cat. And even without scent glands, piss smells. It's just the way it goes.
>> Anonymous
>>184562
Piss smells and shit sucks, yup. That be the way it goes.
>> Anonymous
>>184562
I should elaborate on "cannot housebreak." Rather, you can get SOME of them to eliminate in one specific area (they are the exception and not the rule), but they will all spray to mark their territory, regardless of neutering and/or scent gland removal. It's a natural instinct of their's that you can't train them out of, and it smells like a friggin skunk.
I wish someone would just sticky a "JUST BECAUSE IT IS CUTE DOES NOT MEAN IT MAKES A GOOD PET" post here.
>> Anonymous
>>184562
man i see em on youtube
and i know they are jawsome
but even if it was from a baby i couldn't potty train it???
what if it were to be out side??
>> Anonymous
>>184567
Foxes dig extremely well. You'd have to spend a pretty good deal of money making a fox-proof outdoor enclosure. And even then, would you have enough time to spend with it if you kept it outdoors? You'd need to spend many hours EVERY DAY, because they're wild even if they've been bred in captivity a few generations and don't have the human-loving instincts that cats or dogs have. Hell, why would you even have one if you just kept it outside? What would be the point? Oh, yeah, you need to obtain a license too. And because of their proneness to rabies, you'd need to find an exotics-specialist vet.

tl;dr, I highly doubt OP is serious if they don't know this shit.
>> Anonymous
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you big dummy.
>> Anonymous
Foxes are wild animals and should remain as such. They are naturally curious and get bored easily. Unless you have the ability to dedicate 75-85% of your time caring for and tending to a fox, I suggest you get a cat.

If you like foxes so much, support your local wildlife reserve and/or zoo.
>> Anonymous
>>184579
Srsly. Why do so many fucktards want to make a pet out of their favorite wild animal? If they truly liked that animal, you'd think they'd realize they would be happier in freedom than in a concrete and chainlink enclosure.
>> Anonymous
>>184558

I've been able to play with a fox that was raised as a pet. It was friendly and cute, but it stank like nothing else. Like an un-descented ferret, but much, much worse, and you can't remove the glands without causing serious health problems, according to the zookeeper who showed me.

That's plus the general destructiveness and rabies concerns, like other people said. If you love foxes, great. Try volunteering at a wildlife rehabilitation facility.
>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
You may as well get a jack russel and inject it with caffeine. Foxes are very, VERY hyper and it usually translates to random destruction or escape. And god help you if it smells a mouse in the walls. You'd have better luck with a fennec, they're slightly less mental and easier to care for. Another, consideration might be a descented skunk. I've heard they're pretty calm and freindly.
>> Fulgrim
Just persuade a fox to live near your house and get a pair of binoculars and watch it. You could even get pretty close to it if the fox figures out you're not going to hurt it.
>> Anonymous
>>Im looking to get a pet red fox i wana get is as a baby or pup what ever you call them as baby
Just don't, moron.
>> Anonymous
I saw youtube vids of fennec foxes and they are omega-kawaiis and I want one so that I can hug it and my two cats can raise it
>> Anonymous
>>184655
Catfox?
>> fox babies Anonymous
You call them kits, you idiot.
>> Anonymous
ITT a bunch of people feel a troll.

Christ, why is /an/ so easy?
>> Anonymous
>>184674

>ITT a bunch of people feel a troll.
>a bunch of people feel a troll.
>people feel a troll
>feel a troll
>feel
>> Anonymous
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i want a pet hammerhead shark. they are JAWESOME.
>> Anonymous
>>184588
Why are so many animal lovers oblivious to how in the fuck we managed to tame dogs, and why it is they stay with us. It isn't just the decreased adrenaline in their system that keeps them pet like in nature (which by the way is the side effect of species wide domestication). Animals who are attended to and or well fed shorten their range dramatically.

I wouldn't suggest OP get a fox as a pet because a.) he is a troll
b.) If you haven't done the research and haven't dealt with pets before, you are not ready for an animal that you can't simply leave at home, and not provide beyond adequate shelter for.

The fact is that any animal can be tamed, that is why there are so many tamed animal vidoes on youtube, because it is not difficult, it just takes time and effort, something the average pet owner is not prepared for. Otherwise yes if you have done the research, checked with a vet and know what you are getting into you are doing the species (tier 1 and 2 carnivores, etc.) no harm as even if every fox fag in america were to suddenly get one their population would still be ok.
>> Anonymous
>>184762
Hey, mister domestication expert! Maybe you might want to take a look at this:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6T07-4CPDNY7-2&_user=10&_cover
Date=07%2F26%2F2004&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C0000502
21&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=a66185c94ac73df2e861347e323e41c2
>> Anonymous
Im looking to YIFF a pet red fox i wana get is as a LOLI or SHOTA what ever you call them as baby
>> Anonymous
I hate foxes.
>> Anonymous
Go back to spelling school
>> Anonymous
>>184777
Yes what about it, again in reference to the Silver Fox taming, animal speices who go through a species wide domesitcation seem to enjoy a drop in Adrenaline levels more than likely caused by the deactivation of genes, like I said. I fail to see your point. Dogs can very quickly revert to extreme wild tendancies, and feral cats act very much like a wild animal. Getting an animal when its young will in part make it dependent. And really who in the human race has the right to take a jab at someone for making an animal a pet (unless of course they don't have one, in which case, sure I'll give leeway). A feral cat, and packs of dogs are sometimes as wild if not more than their counterparts.
>> Anonymous
You are giving far too much credit to "raised by humans from a baby".

Yes, if humans raise a wild animal from a baby then that animal will most likely learn not to fear humans and perhaps to obey humans to some degree. But that does not eliminate many wild animal behaviors.

For example, there are huge problems with many of the new "designer" breeds of cats such as Savannahs, Bengals, etc. These are several generations removed from "wild", and they are also raised by humans. However, they still retain many wild characteristics such as urine spraying and attacking nearly anything that moves. Some of them refuse to eat standard pet food, and a great many of them get horrible indigestion and projectile feces unless you feed them a raw meat diet. Problems like this can only be fixed by long-term domestication, not simply raising a wild animal in the company of humans.
>> Anonymous
>>184908
Well then again if you are feeding a fox pet food, you probably shouldn't be raising it, and urination is a problem for just about any animal, its just we notice a cats or in this case a foxes more because it smells like pure unadulterated ass. And again there are plenty of non designer breeds (I have seen calico's tabbies, tortoise shells, etc.) all exhibit abnormal hatred for moving things. But again most of these are biological problems, not truly behavioral. If you can't deal with the biological side effects you don't need to own the animal.
>> Anonymous
>>184762
Well, yeah. If people can legally provide for the mental and physical needs of an animal, go ahead. But I really didn't think OP could-- or most of the retards coming on here going "MARMOSETS R SO CUTE I WANT 1. HOW TO RUIN ANIMAL'S LIFE?" My point wasn't that an exotic animal can't be happy in captivity. My point was most people who want to keep them in captivity can't keep them happy. Note example "concrete and chainlink enclosure." I said nothing about well-managed, stimulating environments. Yeah, any animal would be happier in freedom than living on a concrete slab, and your average "it's cute so I want it" impulse buyer wouldn't provide much better, I imagine. I know there are people out there who can and do take good care of their exotics, I just know they're a lot less common than the people who take horrible care of them.

In general, I'm against exotics except for the very rare few, truly dedicated people who can do it right. There is just no reason to make so many difficult to care for animals suffer people's mistakes when we have perfectly evolved companion animals already.
>> Anonymous
Im looking to get a pet troll i wana get is as a baby or pup what ever you call them as baby
>> Anonymous
protip: the majority of people don't take very good care of their pets period- this is not a problem exclusive to exotic pets.
>> Anonymous
>>184993
I was trying to be somewhat optimistic. At least there's more resources to make it easier to take care of domestic pets than exotics.
>> Anonymous
>>184984
Well thats the problem I suppose is that it really isn't just "exotic" animals per say, its just most people get an animal and don't have the ability to take care of it. A fox is not a creature that you can simply leave at home while you go off to work. If anything it needs to be one of those animals (should you choose to get one) that one might consider in retirement, when one doesn't have to run off and leave it for 8 hours out of a day.