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jake has been diagnosed with a bladder stone and requires surgery... the vet said there is a 50% chance for him to survive the surgery and another 50% chance after that for it to not recur.

surgery is $800... i am considering but am unclear, does anyone have any ideas or advice?
>> Anonymous
Personally, I feel that a major and essential part of taking on a pet is promising to do everything possible to keep it healthy and happy. Realising that hindsight's always 20/20, pet insurance is generally really cheap for most pets. I say get Jake the help he needs to at least give him a chance to have the long, happy life everybody owes their pet.
>> Anonymous
Jake is a guinea pig. Jake is not your mother. At least. I think Jake is a guinea pig. Don't they live like 4 years anyway? Think what you could do with $800. What if he dies anyway? That would suck. I love animals, I love my pets, but I would not spend $800 on a guinea pig (?) that might not live anyway.
>> Anonymous
>>232938

Welcome to /an/, you must be new here.
>> Anonymous
op here, tapping all available sources... i still don't know if i can come up with $800.. as much as i want to
>> Anonymous
>>232940
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This is very true. I should've known.
>> Anonymous
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>>232941

I don't really know anything about guinea pigs but maybe some random googlefu will come in handy.

http://www.guinealynx.com/stones.html
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Guinea-Pigs-1574/Dire-Situation-Please-Respond.htm

Good luck :l


"Urolithiasis (bladder stones) is being seen in more and more guinea pigs and although many are secondary to urinary tract infections, a certain percentage of stones are caused by an imbalance of calcium and phosphorus in the diet. Forage feed, the natural diet for a wild guinea pig, has a higher calcium to phosphorus ratio. Grains have the inverse relationship and contain more phosphorus than calcium. Research has proven that diets that contain an inverse ratio of calcium and phosphorus can cause stones and soft tissue calcifications. Dietary levels of vitamin D and magnesium may also influence the development of bladder stones. Cavy Cuisine is designed to provide the mature guinea pig with the nutritionally proper calcium to phosphorus ratio and appropriate levels of Vitamin D and magnesium."
>> Anonymous
update: another vet found that is willing to do it for $450.. $800 guy was price-pumped because he is after-hours.
>> Anonymous
>>232945

:D good. read up on preventative measures that you can take so there will be a less likely chance of the stones reoccurring in the future.
>> Anonymous
UPDATE: jake is at $450 vet for surgery. vet seemed very confident, am smiling for first time all day
>> Anonymous
double update: they're finishing surgery, hes still alive!
>> Anonymous
:)
>> Anonymous
;d good luck
>> Anonymous
update: he died twice, they brought him back. his bladder is traumatized and bleeding and when they washed it out a lot of sludge came out.

he comes home soon, and the next 12-24 hours will determine his fate
>> Anonymous
update: jesus fucking christ he's a zombie
>> Anonymous
update: he's home now, way out of it, but hes talking.. well croaking.. not moving yet.

they had to give him a lot more anasthetic than they hoped, basically the max he could take cause he kept waking up

little pig keeps on fightin
>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
hes dying.. have been unable to feed/water him for 10 hours after surgery... its just a matter of time now...

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>> Anonymous
>>233098
Keep us updated :(

Praying for Jake and you guys.
>> BitterAnon !!WJLRQ1cwCyZ
>>233098
Supposedly once you are dehydrated you can't feel anything so, on the bright side, at least he's not in pain! And your grocery bills will go down, you won't have to clean any pig cages, etc etc.

Fly free little cavy!
>> Anonymous
>>233108
Also, you could skin him, and stretch the skin over a ceramic replica of him that's also a piggy bank!
>> Anonymous
ok, little guy was still alive this morning so we took him to the vet, who is giving him a sub cue and pain relief both of which he desperately needs, and is going to monitor his temperature better than we could

he had a couple of pain-spasms this morning, but he also managed to do a few poos which he hasnt done since the surgery.

doctor says its still a 50% chance but if its still a 50% chance after spending the whole night without substance or pain relief than that has to be pretty good, right?
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>> Anonymous
i just got the call.. he has passed away.
>> Anonymous
>>233190
i feel for your loss piggys are so sweet its so hard when you loss one. stay strong
>> Anonymous
>>233190
Goodnight, sweet prince. Treasure your memories with him and let him live on in your heart. A tear for our fallen pig.
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>> Anonymous
so, you gonna get a refund on that surgery?
>> KZN
>>232938
Guinea pigs can live for up to 10 years if you're lucky and you take care of them well.

Mine lived to be five...it's really sad, because once the little buggers are sick, even if you take them to the vet right away, it's usually too late. They really aren't all that strong.
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>> Anonymous
>>233208

You can't get refunds on surgery, the sucker wasted $450 on a $20-$40 guinea pig that died anyway - he could've bought 11 to 22 "Jakes" for that amount. What a stupid sucker.

Enjoy your $450 operation to turn your guinea pig into a paperweight.
>> Anonymous
>>233237

It's not that hard to draw a conclusion afterwards. And believe me, if you parents knew what they were in for they would have never made you and have a fun life. Bit that's always a gamble.
>> Anonymous
>>233237

i could buy more guinea pigs but i could never buy another jake.
>> Anonymous
>>233245
Lies, Jake was an animal with a brain about the same size as a walnut. Every guinea pig has the same "personality" because guinea pigs aren't developed enough to have one.

What's next, going to claim your cockroach is one in a million?
>> Anonymous
>>233251
actually my memories are with him wich makes him special
>> Anonymous
I will think of your loss.
>> Anonymous
>>233252
Sad that you hold sentimental feelings for an animal that only saw you as a glorified food dispenser.
>> Anonymous
>>233251

Brainsize does not determin personality and a person can even feel for things like a house or a car.

Stop acting like a toughguy.
>> Anonymous
>>233254

Yeah yeah lolol epic win, gb2/b/
>> Anonymous
whot
>> muddydicks !rTh5VqTIcE
>>233260
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>> Anonymous
OP, I may sound like an emo fag, but I feel for you. I really do. I had a beloved little one that died recently as well. Just because his brain was the size of a walnut does not change the fact that you lost something very dear to you.
>> Anonymous
>>233264
it sucks doesn't it. thanks, i'm sorry for your loss as well :)
>> Anonymous
good night sweet pig.
>> Anonymous
Aw damn. Looks a lot like one of my old guineas. Sorry man.

And stop being such fags. Losing a pet is harsh.
>> Anonymous
>>233283
Sucks alright, but Jake also could have died for free. That sucks even more.
>> Anonymous
I guess I came here way too late. It's NEVER worth it to get surgery for a small animal (rats, rabbits, guinea pigs etc) or an old animal (12 years plus and showing signs of ageing). Even when the surgery is successful, their quality of life goes down dramatically, and you'll see the animal in question drag itself across the rest of its pathetic life.

Having said that, don't take it to heart, OP. You did what you thought was best at the time, and Jake DID survive the surgery itself. Give him a nice shoebox burial, and once you're over the grieving process, maybe you could get another guinea pig.
>> Anonymous
Dumbass wasted 450$.


GG idiot.
>> Anonymous
That's really sad. You're an extraordinary person to have spent the money on the surgery. Don't regret it, if you hadn't spent the money you would never stop wondering whether he would have lived.
>> Anonymous
Jake has been buried and we are planning on finding a plant he liked to eat to plant on him. Parsley maybe?
>> Anonymous
:( sorry about Jake. good job on giving the effort for him.
>> Anonymous
You made the right choice, maybe it's better not to do surgery as stated a few posts above this one bit I also didn't think of it that way.

Just realise that if you hadn't done anything you would've sat here with a feeling of guilt en would have always had the feeling you could have saved him.
>> Anonymous
And with the death of your guinea pig, maybe you can become a man.

Men do not keep shitty little pets in cages, grow up you pussy faggot.
>> Anon
Totally agree with>>233298.
Small animals/reptiles/birds are delicate in the first place. Knocking them out usually kills them, the it's the shock of the surgery and infection to contend with.
Even before I got to the bottom of this thread I doubted he'd make it.
You have to think about if it's worth the stress and pain the animal will go through being taken away from its home, its chances of survival, and the pain it'll be in afterwards. Or you could keep him home, keep him as comfortable for his remaining days and he can die with the person he knows.
>> Anonymous
>>233460

Your parents kept a shitty little pet.. You..
>> Anonymous
>>233484
Oooohhh, SNAP!