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>The Animal Liberation Front (ALF) carries out direct action against animal abuse in the form of rescuing animals and causing financial loss to animal exploiters, usually through the damage and destruction of property.

>usually through the damage and destruction of property.

I don't know about you, but I don't like these people.
>> Anonymous
Stupid idiots.
>> Anonymous
Long story short, terrorists, shoot em and turn the animals into purses and coats.
>> Anonymous
I had the joy of busting one of their jaws into about ten pieces with a nightstick. Fucker was breaking into the place where I worked as a security guard. He had about three others and it was a fucking brawl between them and us security guards until the police showed up. I wouldn't think peta/alffags would put up such a fight.
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>> Anonymous
ITT animal exploiters and/or right wingers, rednecks.
>> Anonymous
>>127927
Of course I exploit animals, I'm human, what're you, some sort of sub-human troglodyte?
>> Anonymous
ITT dipshits who have nothing better to do than mindlessly bash the ALF.
>> Anonymous
>>127937
Hello, I don't think you've been here before, this is 4chan, when you are here you are as worthless as those you strive to feel superior to, so pull up a trough and leave your humanity at the door.
>> Bitter Anon !!WJLRQ1cwCyZ
It's great to want to help animals. It's great to be willing to risk your life to save that of another being.

It's not okay to put those animals in danger immediately after you save them. ALF tends to release captive-bred (and horribly traumatized and inbred) mice into the wild.. where they die from predation or starvation. Their lives become wasted. If they gave them caring homes, or even humanely killed them, I'd be more tolerant.

Terrorists are terrorists regardless of what they fight. If you want to help, help.. don't destroy.
>> Anonymous
whateva, terrorist just seems to be a word for political dissident these days, however, ALF breaks the law, i think they should try to manipulate the system from within, a much less obtrusive approach our corporate betters have mastered.
>> Anonymous
The point is not whether you like ALF or not. The point is realizing that despite their methods, questionable or otherwise, ALF is doing more for animals than any of the lazy, selfish fags ITT who renounce them but do nothing to help animals themselves.

Thread over.
>> Anonymous
>>128651

I don't think they're doing anything for animals at all!

Yes, they do set some animals free. But so what? The majority of the time, as Bitter Anon explained, those animals are doomed when they leave ALF's hands.

What little good they do is completely undone by their methods. Their extremeism, violence, and criminal activity gives other (legitimate) animal welfare organizations a poor reputation.
>> Anonymous
you know what if we have to torture 100,000 monkeys into insanity in order to find a better treatment for, say, epilepsy, then I say do it.
Humans come first. Always.
>> Anonymous
>>128675
Congratulations! You're now thinking like a virus.
>> Anonymous
>>127853

And their group is funded by PETA you know.

http://www.activistcash.com/organization_overview.cfm/oid/21
>> Anonymous
>>128717

Congratulations! You are now speaking the language of Hyperbole.
>> TFJ
These nutjobs are always the first people who pop into my mind whenever I hear that famous Ann Coulter quote:

"Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims."

I don't know about you, but damage and destruction of property sounds like terrorism to me.
>> Anonymous
>>128735

I wouldnt doubt. To me it is domestic terrorism.

I hope PETA, the ALF and the ELF will become more and more exposed as time passes and be dissolved.
>> Anonymous
I told my dog he sucked for pooping on my floor and they motherfucking crashed in through the window took my dog away told me I am a verbal abuser and slapped me in the face. They then proceeded to burn my house down.
>> Anonymous
>>128749

/an/ heroes.
>> Anonymous
ITT same person
>> Anonymous
>>128749
I lol'd.
>> Anonymous
>>128717
I hope you have a fucking seizure and the pain goes up and down your body like a tidal wave while you fall to the ground and fold in half due to your muscles involuntarily contracting and relaxing.

Testing cosmetic products on animals is bullshit, but medical testing? That needs to be done. Anyone who believes otherwise is a fucking moron. Hell, IMO, it's too regulated and should allow for more human test subjects who are willing.
>> Anonymous
>>128651
Really? And what do they do for animals? Break out a few lab rats? Maybe fuck up a few people working on important shit? That doesn't help animals. That's fucked up treehugger posturing. Help animals by stopping dog fighting rings, help animals by preserving their natural habitat, help animals by spaying and neutering your pets, help animals by working to preserve an endangered species.
>> Anonymous
>>127872

Mind if I ask where you worked? Just idle curiousity I guess.
>> Anonymous
Sorry, but, when you see a baby monkey with its eyes sewn shut in some fucking university somewhere, and these guys go in, rescue the monkey and trash the place, you have to love them.

Honestly, I think they're great. I hope they fuck up some more corporations that test on animals.
>> Anonymous
Help the guinnea pigs by digging up the head researcher's dead mother and holding the corpse hostage!
>> Anonymous
>>129026
people who think like this shouldn't be allowed access to any medicenes which have been tested on animals.
>> Anonymous
>>128976

Actually, you're wrong. It doesn't "need" to be done. The entire mainstream medical industry is a practice in inventing a new pill every other day.

Tell me something. Are the animals they test on genetically identical to humans? How can the data even be considered worthwhile.

Furthermore, half the shit they're trying to find cures for is stuff that's caused by by-products of industry, chemicals, etc, and the medical industry is a big one.

All you're really doing is demonstrating that you have contempt for non-human life. Your first problem is that you think it's ok to torture/mutiliate/kill animals for human benefit. That's the same attitude that is causing ecosystems to die off an animals to go extinct. Secondly, you think it's actually going to be doing some good.
>> Anonymous
>>129028

Ok asshole, I wouldn't touch that fucking poison anyway. Name one thing that's been tested on animals that's benefiting your existence you stupid fuck. Name one pill or treatment that's been invented in the past 50 years that actually cures something or makes people WELL. Yeah, that's right, shut the fuck up.
>> Anonymous
Oh and if any of you fucking brainwashed asshats want to debate this shit with me in real time, msg ARNOLD0584 on AIM.
>> Anonymous
>>129029

"Baby monkey with eyes sewn shut" - clearly, you have no idea what universities actually do, and I quite suspect, you won't be able to tell me exactly what simulated medical procedure and/or process of R&D involves sewing any animal's eyes shut.

>>129030

Insulin. Organ transplants. Most vaccines are now hatched from chicken eggs. They use pigs' livers to filter human blood when a patient has liver failure and a tranplant can't be obtained. Hypoallergenic products are developed with the classic "rabbit eye test".

In fact, the first disease to be eradicated - smallpox - had its vaccine made from cow pox.

Every single synthetic product on earth that is permitted for human consumption - every single powder, type of gelatin, dye that goes into pills and supplements, including YOUR SUPPOSEDLY FUCKING VEGAN SUPPLEMENTS - have been tested on animals.

You fucking PETAfags take every single benefit from them, if not more, and your fucking leader takes insulin btw. Don't I wish she'd die a painful death one of these days instead of being a fucking hypocrite.

Just because YOU'RE not the one holding the knife, don't delude yourself into thinking your existence doesn't kill animals.
>> Anonymous
>>129029

They don't have to be genetically identical, tool. If you were genetically identical, you'd be the identical twin of someone else.

Pigs are clearly not genetically identical to humans, but we've managed to modify them enough to filter our blood in their livers.

Rabbits are clearly not genetically identical to humans, but the rabbit eye test works wonderful in developing hypoallergenic products.
>> Anonymous
>>129030
Err... synthetic HGH?
>> Anonymous
PETA is hypocrites. ALF is terrorists. Thread over.
>> Anonymous
>>127943
Internet Superheroes
>> Anonymous
>>129067
lol. You owned that guy hard - I don't think he'll be replying.
>> Anonymous
>>128717
Congratulations! Now you're thinking like Hitler!
>> Anonymous
>>129067

Ok, insulin, great. What it does is treat someone with diabetes (I said cure, you fucking dumbass). Pigs livers, again, not a cure. Why did that person's liver get fucked up in the first place? Maybe if they had proper health and nutrition and didn't binge drink...

Moving along, "hypoallergenic products"? Fuck you. I'm sorry you're such a selfish person that you think it's necessary to torture an animal so some bitch can have a product he/she thinks works better on them. There are plenty of products not tested on animals that do the same job or better and aren't filled with shit that is so harsh people are afraid to use it without testing it on animals first.

Smallpox, though it didn't even exist in american culture pre western influence, that was how long ago the vaccine was discovered? I'm sure it didn't involve laboratory conditions on the scale they use them today to give assholes like you the ability to buy some mango scented dandruff shampoo from CVS. Again, moving along...

"vegan supplements"? I'm not a vegan or a vegetarian you stupid fuck. Don't assume shit you don't fucking even know the information on, which is what you seem to base your entire life (or at least that post) doing.

Also, I don't take any benefit from the shit you're talking about, unless it's inadvertent. I ONLY buy products that aren't tested on animals, because there is no reason to test mild ingredients on animals. I'm sure at some point down the line one or several of the ingredients might have been tested on animals, but there's not much I can do about that, now can, since it's hard to find entirely animal free products, but the stuff I buy sure says so. I also don't use insulin, I don't have a failing liver, and I sure as hell don't delude myself into thinking I have the right to use something that an animal was tortured to create, so fuck you for assuming, asshole.
>> Anonymous
>>129170
Good tard, have you ever been to a hospital?
>> Anonymous
>>129112
Lastly, I couldn't care less about PETA. I think they're idiots actually and it's foolish to assume that killing animals is always 100% wrong. Factory farms are wrong, obviously. But hunting is not. Hunting with an ATV and an assault rifle with laser guiding on it is definitely wrong though and I hardly consider it a sport.

>>129067

Was sleeping, you fucking tool. He didn't own shit. All he did was spout typical civilized ideas about the medical industry and animals in general. The only thing that you mentioned which is arguably a cure, is the smallpox vaccine. So you still fail fucking miserably. Don't rage up just because you know it's wrong to test on animals but support it because you think it will one day benefit your unhealthy lifestyle.
>> Anonymous
A BIIG THANKYOU TO THE GENIUS MEMBERS OF THE ALF WHO THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA TO 'FREE' WILD MINK INTO BRITAIN. Seriously, there's not much left moving round our riverbanks anymore. Twats.
>> Anonymous
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>>129170

Uhm, I think you're missing quite a bit there.

Insulin: sure, it may not make the disease magically vanish, but it can and DOES save people's lives--including many people who have temporary insulin deficiency as a result of some other ailment.

You conveniently dodged the discussion about organ transplants. In fact, it's a lot broader than this. A huge number of surgical techiniques (transplants being one of them) were--and are--developed on animals first. We're talking about ultrasound. MRI. CT scan. CAT scan. X-Rays. Anesthesia. Analgesia (commonly confused with the former, but not the same thing). EEG, Flouroscopy...the list goes on and on. Additional medical procedures including artificial joints, pacemakers, stents, and other related technology were all developed using testing that involved animals.

Hypoallergenic products goes way beyond cosmetics. For example, watch bands. Upholstery fabric. Armrests. Surgical tools. Medical implants. Soaps, deodarants, and so on... Yes, today many products (including these and more) can be made that don't require ongoing animal testing. But did you stop to think why that is? It's becasue we know NOW that those materials are safe to use, based on empirical knowledge we've learned in the past. We build on a base of knowledge that was developed largely thanks to animal testing.

Smallpox is by no means the only example of a vaccine tha thas saved lives: add measles, rubella, mumps, whooping cough... Animals have been used in the development and production of these vaccines (and others as well)
>> Anonymous
>>129189

Insulin: Let me tell you a story about diabetes. There was this girl who was developing childhood diabetes. Her mother, fed this girl oscar mayer lunchables daily along with soda and was obese. When the school nurse told that girl's mom to feed her better stuff, the mother said she "didn't have time". So that girl's life might be made a little easier with insulin, but if her mother wasn't an irresponsible twat, we wouldn't have to worry about that now would we? How can you expect people to not get diabetes when as a culture they consume massive amounts of sugar in everything, but more importantly, high fructose corn syrup.

As for organ transplants, I'm not entirely familiar with the testing that's been done in relation to that. My argument was that in most cases these transplants wouldn't be necessary at all of not for people's (and society's) bad habits that cause the human body to be contaminated. I was arguing that you don't have the right to torture animals because you drank too much in college.
>> Anonymous
>>129189

And I know hypoallergenic products go beyond cosmetics, but most of that shit they test is synthetic and can be achieved other ways. For example, canvas was made from cannabis before dupont made a chemical version and cannabis was outlawed. Soaps and deodorants? Again, you don't have a right to torture an animal to have 50 billion varieties of deodorant. I use something called thai crystal, it's a hardened mineral salt that's been used by humans for ages, works better than most ANTI PERSPIRENTS and was never tested on animals, nor does it contain the aluminum component that absorbs into your skin (and by the way, causes cancer, which they'll then test on animals to try and cure). Soaps, again, there are natural alternatives, that work just as good if not better. Did you know that triclosan, the main ingredient in anti-bacterial soaps is actually listed as a pesticide by the EPA? And surprise, it doesn't work much better than other soaps, because the germs are mostly killed by the friction, not the anti bacterial component. Also, you have to wash your hands for an extended period of time (with a pesticide) for it to work, and in many cases that .1% of germs left over turn into veritable super bugs.

So essentially, all those materials you think are so wonderful that you applaud humanity for inventing are inherently unnecessary and in some cases blatantly unhealthy or destructive.
>> Anonymous
>>129198

I think I see your point. Mind you, I agree 100% that it's wrong to harm animals for a liver transplant, if the reason why was becasue you got shitfaced every night you were in the Frat. I sympathize with that view.

However, a HUGE number of medical problems have little to do with people being dumbasses. Yes, some people get diabetes from drinking too many cokes. But not every case comes from idiocy.

It's easy to be high-and-mighty and say that we can get by with 100% natural chemical-free things. A lot us CAN. But the only reason why we can is becasue we've obtained the benefits of all those "nasty refined chemicals" sometime in the past.

Pesticide is a great example. Years ago we wiped out malaria from the US thanks to DDT insecticide. Now, DDT is nasty stuff. It does have side effects. But in most people's opinion it's better than malaria. Nowadays we have other insecticides that are safer and have less enviornmental impact than DDT. But they cost a lot more to produce. That's OK, we can afford it. But now we're screwing those people in south & central america, as well as Africa. We tell them they can't use DDT becasue it's enviornmentally hazardous. The problem is, these people NEED a cheap insecticide. They aren't developed enough to afford the modern stuff.
>> Anonymous
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>>129198
longwinded idiot is looooongwiiiiinded
you're taking forever to say nothing at all
>> Anonymous
>>129198


...continuing.

I fully agree with you that a lot of "stuff" out there is, like you say, useless--if not destructive.

But don't be so naive to believe that your "solutions" are as "clean" as you think they are.

For example, your "deodorant crystal": That stuff is made from Potassium Alum, aka Potassium aluminum sulfate. Where exactly does that come from? Some of it is mined. How does that happen? With machinery powered by diesel fuel and power plants. How is the raw material processed? How is the processing machinery made? Again, with commercial power and bulk industrial chemicals.

You might like to think that the "Thai stone" was collected by an animal rights activist wearing hand-woven hemp robes who walked to the quarry, picked up a naturally-the-right-size-and-shape 'crystal' and then hand-delivered it to you. But the only reason why you can buy such a thing at a reasonable price is because KAISO4 is manufactured in bulk as an industrial chemical, in a big stinky plant that was powered (probably) by a coal-fired generating station. It was then transported to you by ship, truck, and rail, all of which were burning fossil fuels, and whose engines were lubricated with oils containing synthetic additives.....
>> Anonymous
>>129197
Hey, smartass. I have hypoglycemia and have to take insulin so I don't faint down the stairs or something. I was born with it, and most of the other females in my family were too. I'm healthy and far from lazy. Stfu.
>> Anonymous
>>129204

Yeah, that's the thing. In many cases people do their best and still get sick, and it's not their fault. My argument is that these diseases are a by-product of civilization itself. Even people who think they're getting rid of chemicals 100% most definitely aren't. I used to be big into the organic thing. I would feel good about myself for buying a tomato that was organic. Then I realized, it's the middle of December and this tomato was shipped to me, using fossil fuels, from Mexico...oops. It's really quite simple, industrial civilization has to end for humans to make any real progress and for diseases to truly disappear. I'm still vehemently against animal testing. It's a moral truism that one creature shouldn't benefit from the suffering/torture of another, but in civilization, people seem to have a contempt for both human and non-human life, and it starts with things like animal testing and carries on with things like mass extinction and habitat destruction, which will in the end cause more harm for humans and more disease. Vicious cycle, etc.

As for the whole pesticide thing, well. We shouldn't be using pesticides at all, they're all pretty bad. We have food stores overflowing. We could feed the world with all organic and responsibly farmed foods (and for longer, might I add) if greed wasn't a factor, but unfortunately it is.
>> Anonymous
No.
>> Anonymous
>>129207

Maybe it was caused because your mother was exposed to some chemical when she was pregnant with you. Did you ever think of that?
>> Anonymous
>>129205

And you're repeating verbatim a stupid /b/ meme. Grats on contributing nothing to the thread faggot.
>> Anonymous
Can you guys keep going, please? I'm calibrating my faggotry detector.
>> Anonymous
>>129223

You'll know it's working when you aim it at yourself and it goes crazy.
>> Anonymous
>>129219
Does it change the fact that I need insulin now, regardless of where it came from or what had to happen for me to get it? Fuck you for acting like I should suffer just because my mom may or may not have lived like a normal, modern human being. And if these illnesses to humans are caused by chemicals, what about animals? Did illness just not exist before evil humans came along and infected the world with toxins?
>> Anonymous
>>129225

I didn't act like you should suffer. The entire basis for my arguments is that people shouldn't suffer this kind of crap because humans abuse their environment, and animal testing is simply one way they do it. Hate me as much as you want, but I don't want you to be hypoglycemic, and want you to be well, but chances are you're not even aware of the levels you're hurting your health on a regular basis, if you're anything like the typical american, canadian, european, etc.
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>> Anonymous
>>129230
So, now that I have been affected by some vile chemical-caused illness... would I get better if I stopped using any chemical/non-natural products at all and lived like a caveman?
>> Anonymous
>>129208

You need to define your standard for judging the quality of life, or at least identify your metric as to why we're better off without industrialization.

Yes, right now, we have people that are starving. We have nuclear waste, and oil spills, and toxic chemicals here and there. But, at the same time, we also have advanced medicine. If little Johnny falls on the ground and ruptures his spleen, we can fix it thanks to antibiotics and surgery (happened to a childhood friend of mine, BTW). If someone gets trichinosis from eating undercooked pork, we don't have to let them die a slow death. We can cure them. If someone has a heart attack we can often times start it back up again. At the moment, human lifespans are the highest they've ever been.

We've even come so far that if YOU want to eat organically grown vegetables any time of the year, we can bring them to you, thanks to indoor lighting & climate control and modern shipping. Don't want to eat the nasty bits of a chicken? No sweat. In today's economy, you can buy pre-processed chicken breasts and never have to worry about making soup from the carcass. Don't want to use animal-tested shampoo? That's fine. You can buy stuff that was never tested on animals....but it was built on the scientific knowledge that came from prior animal testing done by other people.
>> Anonymous
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You say that one creature shouldn't benefit from the suffering of another....unfortunatley for your opinion, that's not the way that the real world works. Foxes eat rabbits. If you save the fuzzy little bunnies, the foxes will starve to death. So, in your magical fantasyland where nothing kills anything else, which one are you going to save?

Like it or not, animals are going to die. The question is not "should this happen", the question is, when is it OK and when is it not OK.

To quote anon earlier, I have no problem will killing thousands of monkeys if it, say, cures cancer. The tradeoff is worth it, IMHO. Do I want to torture bunnies so some fat woman can wear even more makeup? Not at all. But to claim that anything with an enviornmental impact is wrong is downright delusional.
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Doesn't ALF eat cats???
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Ok back on topic
>> Anonymous
>>129374
Please no. I can't handle anymore of this brain damage.
>> Anonymous
>>129387

Then go back to /b/ where you can have many lulz at newfags, the subjugation of women, black people, etc.

This thread is for the people who think about animals beyond "hai guyz have u seen that pic w/ the crazy lady stamping her heel through the cat's eye??? it was so COOL." This thread is for people who give a damn about animal rights and view animals as being fit for more than just entertainment.

In short, fuck off.
>> Anonymous
>>129409
I don't just see animals as a means of entertainment. They are also very tasty and make sure the medicines we're going to use actually work. Animals are the best. :)
>> Anonymous
>>129409
Wow, that's a lot of assumptions about me based on two sentences. Contrary to what you think, I work at a shelter, I'm a greenfag, and I do just about everything within reason to not support the unnecessary exploitation of animals to my knowledge.

I'm just sick of seeing people argue really, really, REALLY poorly.
>> Anonymous
>>128651

You, sir or madam, can fuck right off. I think ALF and PETA are crazy nutbags, and they unintentionally do more harm than good. You say no one in this thread does anything for animals, but I have personally adopted 14 animals that were in immediate danger of being euthanized.

>>129026

You have no idea what actually goes on in an animal research lab, do you? There are regulations like you would not believe, and for good reason. Basically, if you're working with any vertebrates, especially mammals, those animals live like royalty until you euthanize them as humanely as possible. The only time animals do not get pain management is if the study requires it, and studies like that are VERY hard to get approved. And then some PETAfag breaks in and releases your mice, which were specially bred and kept in quarantine so as not to have any diseases or immunities. Yeah, they should do that more often... (/sarcasm)
>> Anonymous
**I move away from the mic to breath in

Also it is a little known fact that as domestic terrorists, the ALF is just a sub-organization of 4chan whom Fox has recently revealed to be the sauce of all domestic terrorism.
>> Anonymous
>>129413

You should learn to read a statement more thoroughly before you speak. I said that ALF does more for animals than the people who renounce ALF yet sit idly and turn a blind eye to the atrocities committed against animals. If you work to help animals yet renounce ALF, then my statement wasn't necessarily directed at you, now was it? No, it was directed at the people who care nothing about animal rights but read the Wikipedia article about ALF and contribute, rather wittily, "lame terrorists are laaaaaaaame."
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All the animals I've adopted throughout the years are precious to me, here's all my doggies
>> Anonymous
If you ask any animal rights activist if they support stem cell research, they'll say that they do, because a human life is not worth the life of any other animal... you know, that whole gothic philosophy bullshit. But they won't argue with you that being against animal research but not against human stem cell research is hypocritical.

So you have conservatives holding back stem cell research that could cure lots of diseases and disabilities, and animal rights activists trying to hold back animal research, which also has a lot of advantages in the medical field.

Both are important, but the only way to please both parties is to end all kinds of physical research, which just isn't going to happen.
>> Anonymous
>>129170

Not a vegan or even a vegetarian huh. So, killing animals in painful ways is perfectly fine but torturing them is not? You do win the Hypocrite of the Thread award.

Aside from sidestepping the organ transplant issue completely, what part of most vaccines and every single man-made ingredient, including dyes and filler chemicals did you not understand?

Every single thing has already been tested on animals. That's why scheming fucktards like "The Body Shop" slap on an "against animal testing" label and continue using products that are clearly tested on animals, and are still being tested on animals to this day.

Just because THEY'RE not the specific company that have a lab full of rabbits, it doesn't mean it won't benefit them.

Oh, and the atopic babies, and anybody who ever needs to wear clothing in their lives LOVE YOU for saying that allergies don't exist and we can all arbitarily make "chemical versions" and not test them on the animals in the process.

Diabetes can be set off by multiple causes. Many children are born with Type 1 diabetes, and have to inject themselves every day. A significant number of people develop "IV diabetes" from being on the glucose IV for too long while being hospitalised.

>>129173

I hope next time you even try to walk into a health clinic, the medical staff turn you away. Every single thing in today's world is made from what you would call "animal exploitation", the clothes you wear, the toothpaste you use, paint on your wall, and ESPECIALLY the medical products, down to the hypo-allergenic synthetic leather couch in the waiting room.

The majority vaccines you were given as a child, and the vaccines that were given to other people, are hatched from chicken eggs. That's why you can't get vaccinated if you have an allergy to egg products. It's what's keeping America alive. It's also what's keeping the backwood hicks who have no idea exactly how immunisation works to fight off epidemics alive.
>> Anonymous
My argument would be that we should focus on finding ways to eliminate animal testing with the the technology we have already developed. Just as computer simulations and visual aids have made grade school dissections entirely unnecessary and yet many still require it, many groups still insist on using outdated methods of research. We are almost (if not already) to the point that we can engineer human organs and tissue and grow them in a lab, we should be nearing the point that we can virtually eliminate animal testing.

Also, I'd like to point out that I am well aware of the government's minimal standard of care regarding animal housing and welfare, and it is out of date and woefully inadequate. I have worked at a shelter facility, own both guinea pigs and rabbits, and I am well aware of the space and amount interaction that these animals require. Dogs who are predominantly kenneled, even with frequent attention given during working hours, will inevitably develop some degree of kennel insanity or anxiety. Even smaller animals, like guinea pigs and rabbits, require a relatively large amount of space to be mentally healthy. Physically, most of these animals are remarkably healthy (living your entire life in quarantine will do that to you), but their mental health suffers dramatically.

tl;dr

To the point, I understand that animal testing has been required in the past and is a necessary evil in some situations, but is something the industry should be striving to eliminate. The fact is, though, is it's not. I look at my animals and know that they are no different then the ones who are suffering (and yes, they do suffer) in labs across the world.