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Could an animal this size ever possibly survive on Earth?
>> Anonymous
An animal that size couldn't exist anywhere. It'd need so much fucking heat to sustain its body. I doubt there wouldn't be any kind of planetary condition that could ever house something that size.
>> Anonymous
>>175691
How about it being an aquatic creature on a world with sizeable oceans formed of something with a higher boiling part than water, closer to the star and/or with intense geothermic heat from under the floor of the ocean? The creature probably wouldn't be very mobile, though.
>> Anonymous
>>175692
-maybe-... But then you'd need a SHIT TON of other life that could survive in that non-water ocean with unbelievable heat for it to feed on.
>> Anonymous
>>175693
Unless it feeds itself via photosynthesis.
>> Anonymous
>>175695
Hmm... Indeed!
>> Anonymous
It'd need 1000 hearts just to pump enough blood for it to move a few feet.
>> Anonymous
>>175692
The planet would have to be bigger than freaking jupiter to have an ocean deep enough for this fucker.
>> Anonymous
It could be hematocryal and feeding on plancton, like whales or whalesharks.
Worms have a "string of heart" going from head to end that pumps their blood.
I don't see any problem with the size, except it would need a huge ammount of food.
The environment would have to be very energy rich.
>> Anonymous
>>175702
uh... no. our dinosaurs were about as large as that, if you're going to take the human figures in the foreground for reference
>> Anonymous
>>175714
You need to look at the picture a lot fucking harder.
>> Anonymous
Maybe if it stays completely submersed in water, floated around on ocean currents and absorbed energy from the sunlight like those giant mats of seaweed.
>> Anonymous
>>175714
I lol'd, hard.
>> Anonymous
>>175714
Hahahaha, wow.
>> Anonymouse !!h5ALjqgB4DE
This thing looks to be probably several hundred if not thousand feet high. Assuming it's and ocean going creature (to support that bulk it probably would) it could easily fit underwater in areas of the open ocean.

The body heat question isn't a problem since the OP didn't specify if the creature was identical to the picture. The pictures looks like some kind of insect/crustacean which isn't very feasible unless the environment was incredibly warm. However if the animal were a mammal it would be right at home in polar climates (where larger body mass is useful). These climates are also energy rich (which is the reason whales go there to feed).

The way I see it living is the same way whales live. Giant predators that use minimal energy filtering out small animals from the ocean. This monster would most likely follow food sources from place to place. Of course the animals that this beast would filter out would probably include...everything. From plankton down to small ships and whales, nothing would be safe.
>> Anonymous
>>175743
then it must live in the bermuda triangle!
>> Anonymous
lol the villagers are attempting to fight it off with farming tools
>> Anonymous
>>175743
An animal this large, this IMPOSSIBLY large could not produce enough energy to sustain itself. This is why we don't have megafauna anymore. Anything this large would need impossible amounts of heat just to move. Even if it did live on an ocean world close to a sun with oceans made of non-boiling water it would still be pretty damn immobile.
>> Anonymous
>>175752
Those are spanish explorers with swords. They aren't trying to fight it.
>> Anonymous
allometry motherfucker do you know it?
>> Anonymouse !!h5ALjqgB4DE
>>175755
Why would it have to be incredibly hot? If it was a mammal it would generate its own heat.
>> Anonymous
I'm not sure that any animal would ever get THAT large, but animals on Earth have gotten pretty god damn big in the past. On other planets that had lower gravity they might get even larger. Imagine insects on a terraformed Mars that had abundant oxygen?
>> Anonymouse !!h5ALjqgB4DE
What's the sauce on OPs pic anyway?
>> Anonymous
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>>175714
>> Anonymous
>>175781
I forgot, exactly how large are the blue whale's eggs?
>> tigerfeather !CrwtTbFNxQ
>>175791
You're thinking dolphins.
>> Bitter Anon !!WJLRQ1cwCyZ
>>175798
No, they ALL lay eggs.

Except for humans.
>> Anonymous
>>175798
But blue whales are actually a type of dolphin, just like killer whales.
>> Bitter Anon !!WJLRQ1cwCyZ
>>175802
Thats why they are called murderwhales. They can't raep, only murder.
>> Anonymous
>>175755
No. The reason we don't have megafauna right now is because we FUCKING KILLED THEM! Mammoths were some of the biggest mammals ever, and they lived in the ice age steppes. Terrestrial mammals cannot grow as big as sauropods for a lot of reasons, most of which are anatomical, not about heat.
>> Anonymous
Better question, who would WANT this to even live? Ever?
>> Anonymous
>>175815
Umm, Mammoths were not that big compared to some of the animals that came before them. About 65 million years before them...
>> Anonymous
>>175852
For the lulz and the epic footage of us destroying it?
>> Anonymous
>>175853
Learn to fucking read.
>> Anonymous
Highly unlikely, the amount of food available wouldnt let animals grow to that size, that thing would need to eat quite a few whales a day
>> Anonymous
Maybe if it had an exoskeleton. Dinosaurs were the upper limit of what could be achieved with an endoskeleton, at least on a planet with earth gravity.
>> Anonymous
A mammal that size could not produce enough heat to sustain it. Once again, would require a hot fucking planet.
>> Anonymous
>>175898
An exoskeleton is also very heavy, and isolates heat too much. There is a point where the amount of energy required to move becomes too much for the animal to sustain.
The huge amounts of energy required to move also create a lot of heat which is not easily lost with a carapace, so the enviroment needs to be cold too.
>> Anonymous
Estimate on the size of that thing? How many thousands of feet?
>> Anonymous
>>175762
does it fucking look like a mammal to you
>> Anonymous
That thing is like a million feet tall :\
>> Anonymous
Using the gulls (I am assuming they are generic gulls or gull-like seabirds of similiar size) as a rough measure, I'd estimate that the head of the creature rises at least to the height of 70 m (about 230 feet). This is not far from the height of the largest (though not quite tallest, some trees are taller but less massive) known _stationery_ organism, the giant sequoia. Obviously this abomination is not stationery though, so it would have to be able to withstand stresses that would tear the tallest redwood into splinters. And that's not even touching the subject of energy demands for moving such an immense body in or out of the water.

So, if there is a way this kind of monster could actually live on Earth, it's not one based on the biology we know.
>> Anonymous
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>>175690
>> Anonymous
>>175690
230 feet? Are we looking at the same picture?
>> Anonymous
>>175936
I'm pretty sure the gulls are flying AWAY from that thing, meaning they're closer and not an accurate reference
>> Anonymous
That thing is 2000 feet at a minimum.
>> Anonymous
>>175942

Yes we are. I assumed a wingspan of about one meter (~3 feet) for the birds, which is consistent with small gulls. I also tried to take into account the fact that the birds are some distance away from the monster, although it's hard to say by how much. This gives a minimal height of about 70 meters (~230 feet) for the creature, measured with the help of an image editing program. If you assume the birds are larger and/or farther away from the beast, you get increasingly greater height, but I tried to start with the realistic minimum.
>> Anonymous
>>175903

About a lightyear.
>> Anonymous
>>175903

It looks like 1200 feet height, about 3000 feet entire length, give and take 50 feet.
>> Anonymous
>>175955
At least.
>> Anonymous
Giant animals don't need to produce heat constantly like we tiny ones do. Their bodies are much better at holding it due to lower surface area. See: Elephants

The real challenge would be food. If it was photosynthesizing, why would it need that huge mouth? The energy required to move its massive body around would not be matched by caloric intake, no matter what it ate.

This is assuming that it's functioning similarly to the animals we all know and love, of course. There's no reason it couldn't use, I don't know, magic or something.
>> Anonymous
hey he never asked how fucking big it was
>> Anonymous
>>175967
You can't compare an elephant to something over 1000 feet in length.
>> Anonymous
obviously it moves using a system of liquid filled bladders
>> Anonymous
My guess: 400 - 550 meters high.

I don't think such a creature could exist within the known biology.
>> Anonymous
>>175973
>within the known biology

deep sea, prehistoric creature! recently released from a deep underground ocean (underneath the ocean) due to drilling for blood corn. dun dun dun!
>> Anonymous
>>175974
"Within known biology" actually encompasses all known species and ecosystems, extant or extinct. Even if we missed all the fossils of 3000 foot cephalopod-arthropod-worms and their ancestors, we shouldn't have missed whatever it is it ate.
>> Anonymous
>>175967
>>There's no reason it couldn't use, I don't know, magic or something.

Actually there's that little reason that magic doesn't actually work in our world. In some other universe, maybe.
>> Anonymous
This thread made me lol.
>> Anonymous
>>175690
organ repition virtually a necessity,

main limiting factor on the growth of things with an exoskeleton is Oxygen content in atmosphere, or water.
>> Anonymous
>>175999
Untrue. That has nothing to do with exoskeletons and everything to do with the arthropod respiratory system. With an efficient active respiratory system an exoskeletal animal is only limited by the weight of the exoskeleton.
>> Anonymous
>>176246
Good thing or else we'd have giant land-walking crabs and huge spiders.
>> Anonymous
>>175690
tl, dr you wouldn't have an animal that large it would be impractical. the animal needs a central nervous system to send impulses and tell various body parts what to do, and in an animal of that size it would take too long for those signals to reach their destination.
So it would be slow to react to pain, attack prey items and so on
>> Anonymous
>>175815
Mammoths weren't all that much bigger than elephants.
>> Anonymous
>>175690
nothing with an exoskeleton could grow that large because an exoskeleton is crazy heavy you dingbat why just say random stupid crap....READ A BOOK!
>> Anonymous
>>176251
How so? If those nerve impulses move at the speed of light then it will feel pain just as quickly as you do.
>> Anonymous
>>176278
they dont move at the speed of light
>> Anonymous
>>176278
But when they travel between nerve cells, they travel at the speed of chemicals. Unless of course you have a hypothetical beast with optical fiber instead of nerve cells.
>> Anonymous
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Theres so much fucking shit all of you, and even the best scientists in the world dont know.

Anything is possible. A creatyre like that could be fucking lurking aorund somewhere. Hell I bet you the sky monster that are said to spend their entire lives way up in near orbit around the earth gliding and fly up where nobody can see them are real. like old tribes said huge creatures fell out of the sky, but nobody had eveer sene them before.

regardless, huge fucking sea montser are terrifying, since theres almost nothing you can do to stop something that large, without taking HUGE sacrifices.
>> Anonymous
>>176296
Also, the world is 6000 years old, flat, and the moon is the size of a beach ball.

BTW, did you know God once made a rock so big He couldn't lift it?
>> Anonymous
>>176251
Any delay from that would easily be compensated for by the fact that it is multiple orders of magnitude larger than anything it would be eating or moving through.

To demonstrate with a a poor but easy relative example: It would be much like a human reacting to an ant.

Practically, there's almost no way the ant could avoid a broadly targeted attempt to squash it simply because its means of locomotion can't propel it fast enough.
>> Anonymous
>>175690
http://www.miketaylor.org.uk/dino/hokkanen/Size-Hokkanen.html
>> Anonymous
You guys also forget about oxygen intake, one reason why we don't have giant bugs anymore is that the environment is less oxygen rich.
>> Anonymous
>>176302
see:
>>176246
>>175999
>> Anonymous
>>176301
Interesting. The prediction for the maximum mass for a land animal is pretty close for the estimated mass of Amphicoelias fragillimus, which was almost as massive as a blue whale.

I wonder what the upper limit for sea-dwelling animals would be.
>> Anonymous
>>175692

"Could an animal this size ever possibly survive on Earth?"

not


"Could an animal this size ever possibly survive somewhere?">>175693
>>175695
>>175697
>>175702
>> Anonymous
Sauce on artist? I really dig his style.
>> Anonymous
where can I buy giant dickworm?
>> Anonymous
>>176296
The animal in your pic is a LOT smaller than the OP's pic. Also, STFU you stupid fucking retard.
>> Anonymous
Amazing thread.
>> Anonymous
>>176296

What sky monster? This sounds like fun and I want to read up on it.
>> Anonymous
>>176296
We could take a sea monster's environment away. Everyone who lives by the ocean could take a bucket full of water and pour it into their tubs and sinks at home.
>> Anonymous
>>176551
Sounds like a plan.
>> Anonymous
>>176288
Whatever the case, I stand corrected. Reading up on it a bit it is still pretty damn fast. So a creature as large as the one in the OP would still have a reasonable reaction time. Or am I wrong?
>> Anonymous
>>176574

Yes, It would still have a reasonable reaction time. Slower than most, but still decent.
>> Anonymous
NO, an animal that big could not survive in the earth's atmosphere today because of the (lack of) oxygen content of the present atmosphere. Thats why lizards today could not be as big as Dinos. Didn't blue gender cover this?
>> Anonymous
>>176584
Not all of us are weeaboo, faggot.
>> Anonymous
The oxygen doesn't have to only come from the atmosphere... Plenty of aquatic creatures are able to fix O2 straight from the water....(gills. duh.) or through large surface areas. And if we are playing around with it being like a plant, PLENTY of plants do this also...

Also, the "fan" around its mouth could be used for locomotion, and that tail could be like a flagela much like rotifers and whatnot, even though those are way small, but same thing possibly. That wouldn't require a ton of energy. Also, the heat thing. Perhaps in lives in the bottom on the ocean by the ocean vents, where is it extreamly hot and just came up to die...
>> Anonymous
Oh yeah i forgot. It also eats the specialized little creatures that live by the heat vents. Theres plenty there and most huge creatures eat tiny things...like whales. They get the most energy that way. The energy doesn't get lost down the food chain.
>> Anonymous
Comparing this thing to whales or elephants is fucking ridiculous. It's like comparing a mouse to a flea to a blue whale.
>> Anonymous
An organism this size would require so much energy to move that it would basically be indistinguishable from the ground, it would be completely sedentary and probably unnoticeable. That said, it could happen. It just couldn't rear up like that, no way.
btw this thing was in Hellboy, it's one of the elder gods that frequently appear in /x/, OP we welcome you to /an/ and to "Reality" alike.>>175695
not nearly enough surface area per volume.
>> Anonymous
>>176616
I beg to differ.
>> Anonymous
>>176660

You've just hinted at one of the real reasons why creatures can't get that big: area vs. volume. The strength of an object derives from two factors: the strength of the material it is made from, and the size (area) of the object. On the other hand, the weight of an object depends on it's volume. The problem is that as an object gets larger, it's area only goes up as at the power of 2, whereas the weight is going up by the power of 3. Thus, as creatures get larger they become weaker and weaker until they can't even support their own body mass. For example: Ants can lift 50x their bodyweight. Fleas can jump several hundred times their weight. On the other hand, elephants can barely jump six inches, and while an elephant is very strong, it can only lift a fraction of its bodyweight.

Any creature approaching that size would have to exist somewhere with far lower gravity, or it would need to be aquatic and also with a fairly jelly-like body, such that it had nearly the same density as water.
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I actually learneded biologies in dis thread.
>> Anonymous
It might stand a chance as a collection of specialized organisms.
>> Anonymous
What if it's just dormant, like all it does is sit there, doesn't move and is photosynthetic? Would that work somehow?
>> Anonymous
>>175752

maybe it could be delicious?

can the OP's creature be edible?
>> Anonymous
>>176584
WRONG! There was actually a lot LESS oxygen in the atmosphere when dinosaurs were dominant. They had a lot more efficient (air-sac) lungs than mammals or reptiles, and that's the very reason they ruled the Earth so long. Even today the last surviving dinosaur lineage (birds) can thrive in low-oxygen environments because their lungs are so much more efficient than ours.
>> Anonymous
>>176747
why everything so small then? rather odd considering your logic would lead one to believe that the current conditions would allow for a dino party
>> Anonymous
Wow Anon, this thread delivers.

+1 amazing.
>> Anonymous
>>176750
I guess you missed the bit where the dinosaurs became extinct. (Okay, so birds are dinosaurs, but they are very different from mesozoic ones, anatomically unsuited for major gigantism). Also, the biggest mammals ever (indricotheres) lived during a time when oxygen levels were much higher than today.
>> Anonymous
The huge insects don't exist anymore because the climate became cooler and oxygen-poorer over time.
>> Anonymous
ITT we repeat the same things about giant insects again and again and again.
>> Anonymous
>>176582
no it wouldn't have a decent reaction time you soft twat, also it wouldn't be able to get enough food and would probably overheat
>> Anonymous
>>176770
Giant insects are just that awesome.
>> Anonymous
>>176665
elephants can't jump at all jackass
>> Anonymous
>>176705

Yeah, actually, I think aspen groves do that. They're one big organism, last I checked.
>> Anonymous
>>176705

Or a coral reef...?
>> Anonymous
>>176774
Like how slow would it be though, how fast do our nerve impulses travel?
>> Anonymous
>>176787
pain signals 0.6m/s muscle signals are a lot faster but not fast enough for an animal of that size do have decent proprioception, even at its fastest a nerve impulse is 3 million times slower than electricity through a wire
>> Anonymous
>>176296
Oh, you saved it from that thread a few days ago right? Finally found the MUCH MUCH bigger HQ version with artist name [google for gallery].
>> Anonymous
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>>176808
....and forgot to upload it.
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This made me remember an awesome show I once saw, it was a revolutionary finding of a bone of a shark.
Basically it was a shark's head bone kind of thing, and it's obviously rare to find shark remains since they dissect, and the bone resembled like a weird upward mouth like in pic. They say top view is supposed to scare animals that went on top of it, but it's speculation.
ANYWAY, where a normal shark is around a car size, this one was 4 busses piled up.

Though that doesn't come close to pic, just sayin' it
>> Anonymous
>>176803
having said all this about nerve impulses and working out that it would take 5 hourse for the monster above to register pain in it tail, I would like throw jellyfish and octopus into the mix. They have a de-centralized nervous system, the jellyfish has brain at all and 2 thirds of the octopus neurons are in nerve cords along its arms
>> Anonymous
>>175690

Man i miss the dinosaurs. It was fun having huge things around.
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>>176813
Seems like you're describing Stetacanthus, the prehistoric weirdo shark with a "toothed" dorsal fin, but it was nowhere near the size of a bus. Or even a car. Just about a meter long.
>> Anonymous
>>176817
tell us what it was like
>> Anonymous
>>176803
Don't compare this monster with the nerve signals of a human being. There are other animals on this planet that has far faster nerve signals than us due to the fact that they have less hops between nerve cells.

Besides, this monster could very well have several nerve centra, each one taking care of it's own segment of the body. Wasn't there a prehistoric animal/dinosaur that had something similar to this?
>> Anonymous
That thing is either A) a Great Old One or B) an Outer God of some sort. In either case, it's not a creature with an earthly biology. For all we know, it's not even composed of ordinary matter.
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>>176813

you're confusing stetacanthus with megalodon

'Up to 16m in length, Megalodon was the largest shark ever. It lived only a few million years ago, the time that the earliest humans envolved. Megalodon is a close relative to the present days great white shark, only much bigger. Like the great white, it was probably warm-blooded and preyed on marine mammals. Its favourite food was whale, It attacked its prey near the surface, when it came up for air.
Like with most sharks, only the teeth of Megalodon are being found, because the cartilaginous skeleton of sharks does'nt get fossilized. Megalodons teeth where 21cm long, it really was the top predator of its time'
>> Anonymous
awesome thread, now: sauce?
>> Anonymous
>>176818
Really? I swear they said it was that huge.. man.

>>176893
That's about a bus and a little, still not what they pictured..
Guess it wasn't an official show then, they screwed up bad.
>> Anonymous
>>175967
>> Giant animals don't need to produce heat constantly like we tiny ones do. Their bodies are much better at holding it due to lower surface area.

Larger animal...Smaller surface area? Wait what?
>> Anonymous
>>176996
Yes, a good example is the siberian tiger.
The larger the animal, the bigger the difference between body volume and surface area gets.
Large animals have great volume but relatively small surface.
Compare to a Fennek: small volume and huge surface area.
That means: larger animals can store heat better than small ones.
Smilodon and mammoth are good examples too.
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lawl, I was bored studying for my evolutions exam for tomorrow and decided to stumble on to /an/ and look what a found. I couldn't stop reading XD

anyway, here's my 3-year-Biology-Major's two cents on this topic and many others brought up. First, addressing the OP, it looks more like a giant krill than an insect. Pretty creative and pushing it in terms of physics and biological function, but very much possible. If I had to take the good ol' undergraduate stab at it, yes it would require LOADS of food, possibly a filter feeder as many others have suggested, but also a multitude of organisms working together in it like some kind super organism. Organs that size and under that much stress have got to have some dynamic property to them that accounts for delivering blood (or whatever medium it uses to transfer oxygen and other nutrients to its muscles) managing wounds and an insanely powerful immune system since healing any wound on this thing would take ages unless it has a worm like ability to segment itself and dis attach any infected body parts. Another issue is reproduction, doubt there are many of this kind. If anything, it might just be an extremely old female with some kind of egg pouch to account for its massive length unless its long because it swims vast distances, but being too long would just be too much trouble for its own good and eventually evolve a shorter body since having a body THAT long would require more costs than any benefits.

>>>to be continued
>> Anonymous
>>continued

just to touch on everyone else's ideas, insects cannot get that big mainly because of the humidity, not the heat. They use air tubes, not lungs, to access oxygen from the air which must be moist for organs to absorb from the air. Its why our lungs are wet, most of our water goes either to flushing out our impurities or keeping our lungs moist enough to capture oxygen from the air. Insects don't have the tissue to moisten their air tubes so they rely on the already moist air to catch oxygen for them and you can only have so much of a large air tube to catch so much air for such a large insect. Hence why they used to be bigger (back with the dinos when the world was one big swampy wet spa)
>>tobe continued
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and photosynthesis is another possibility for the OP but unless it was performed by another organism living on its back or head or something, I don't see how a photosynthetic organism would evolve structures like that to make it mobile and eyes to see when all it has to do is sit there and absorb sunlight. Sure it might have to move to areas of higher nutrient enriched water/soil but there are too many other animal-like features on it to be purely photosynthetic. While it resembles an insect or crustacean more then a mammal, it doesn't mean it can't produce it's own body heat like mammals do. Convergence, motherfucker, learn it. (okay I'll tell ya) many organisms on the planet today that are no where near relation develop similar characteristics, traits, and functions just from being exposed to similar stresses and environments through natural selection. Granted the evolutionary history of that organism would have to be very select, it is still possible. See Australian marsupials that resemble but are no where near related to similar ant eaters, armadillos, or dingos in the Americas or Asia/Africa.

Finally, I'd like to end this with a salute to the most kick ass sea creature of them all. Leviathan, you got me through some tough battles, I salute you with serious awesomeness in mind. \m/
>> Anonymous
this is the best thread ever

I personally dont think it could possibly live, as it would require far too much to sustain itself, unless of course it was a herbivore. Then it might have a better chance. Or, like a worm, it could eat minerals and rocks. There are plenty of those lying around to sustain such a beast.
>> Anonymous
jesus shit. I learned something off of 4chan?
>> Anonymous
W Cephei; VV Cephei: 3,676,200,000 km (ie, 288194 x Earth) = i think that planet would be big enough for anything we could imagine.

Size Chart Video: (scroll down a bit) http://www.samtsai.com/p468
>> Anonymous
This is probably one of the best threads /an/ has ever had.
>> Anonymous
>>175852
I WOULD NIGGER!

IA IA CTHULU FTHAGEN!
>> Anonymous
that's a fucking star you idiot

leviathan will pwn your stupid ass
>> Anonymous
>>177023
Go away.
>> Anonymous
>>177024

I know. Just imagine it was a planet.

I wonder how much we'd have explored if the earth was the size of W Cephei... Everyday a new species on TV, yay!
>> Anonymous
lol okay I see what you mean now...but still ::stupid slap:: for defying the laws of physics. I don't care what it is, anything that big will collapse in on itself and cause fusion on some non-heavy elements and turn the planet into a flippin bomb because it won't be able to self sustain its own weight with the same amount of energy output. At one point or another the neutron barrier/limit/orwhateverthehellitscalled will be reached and it might even just turn into a black hole, we don't know exactly, we just know that no planet could ever form to become that huge without being mostly gaseous and ultimately transforming into a star under its own weight.

besides, we already discover a new species every time we take a deep sea trip, so your idea isn't too farfetched or original. then again, what's original on 4chan for that matter? XP
>> Anonymous
>>177022
This is probably one of the best threads 4chan has ever had. >>
>> Anonymous
>>177032
This is by far one of the dumbest things I've ever fucking read.
>> Anonymous
>>177032

What the fuck are you smoking and where can I get some.
>> Anonymous
perhaps he's been in Glaucomacat's private stash?
>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
>>177032
You should be ashamed of what you have done.
>> Anonymous
fucking
amazing
thread
i am overjoyed
>> Anonymous
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lol wut

Good job, /an/, 130+ replies.
>> Anonymous
This thread is golden
>> Anonymous
someone may have already posted this. I couldn't finish reading this long thread.

Exoskeletal creatures can not produce mega-fauna in an earth like environment. Volume increases at a greater rate then surface area, hence an endoskeleton is the only biologically sound way for an animal to reach extremely large sizes. That's why there are 60 foot tall dinosaurs, but the largest insects ever were slightly larger then three feet.

Also, the only reason terrestrial animals reached these collosal sizes is because the prehistoric atmosphere contained roughly 8 times more oxygen as opposed to carbon dioxide then the current atmosphere.
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Dinosaurs did not ever exist

EVER
>> Anonymous
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>>177087
Did too, and they were faithful, docile steeds.
Lurk and worship moar.
>> Anonymous
>>177101

shittiest excuse for a christian website ever
>> Anonymous
>>176996
surface area compared to its mass he means
>> Anonymous
>>177013
god created complex organisms dumbass, i can't believe they teach that crap in schools these days
>> Anonymous
>>177030
imbecile
>> Anonymous
>>177080
There is no single state for a "prehistoric atmosphere". Oxygen levels have varied wildly during the last 500 million years. During the Carboniferous period, the time of the giant insects, oxygen was at an all-time high, about 30% of the atmosphere (35% at the highest point). Then, during the Triassic, it dropped below 15% not once but twice! It reached the current level of about 21% during the Jurassic (the age of the largest living terrestrial animals) then inched up to 25% at the beginning of the Triassic and then dropped again to 21% when we get closer to the present.

By the way, if you double the size of a creature, its surface area is quadrupled, and it's volume is multiplied by 8! So a giant blue whale that appears to be twice the size of an ordinary blue whale would weigh 8 times as much. The giant monster in the OP is at least 30 times the size of a blue whale. You do the math.

Of course to make matters worse, while the absolute strength of muscles grows as they get bigger, the proportional strength decreases. That's why an ant can lift 10 times its weight but a human can only manage to lift his own weight, and an elephant only a fraction of its weight, even though the elephant is in absolute terms stronger than the ant or the human. This means a giant monster like the one in the OP would not have the muscular strength to even move itself!
>> Anonymous
>>177020

psh, VY Canis majoris FTW man!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VY_Canis_Majoris
>> Anonymous
>>177124

obvious troll is obvious
>> Anonymous
ITT, we don't even bother to so much as skim past replies, and just keep posting the same thing over and fucking over
>> Anonymous
>>177139
I do not like your implication.
>> Anonymous
did anyone read these fucking idiots?
>>175791
>>175791
>>175791
>>175798
>>175798
>>175801
>>175801
>>175801
>>175802
>>175802
>>175805
>>175805
>> Anonymous
>>177170
lulz >.<
>> Anonymous
Giant animal leads to giant thread. Kudos for OP, whoever you are.
>> Anonymous
>>175690Could an animal this size ever possibly survive on Earth?

Maybe if it lived in seas and ate mostly plancton. Blue whales used to get pretty big, you know. But then the japanese whale-taste researchers hunted them to extinction and now there's none left.
>> Anonymous
You keep mentioning Blue whales in this thread. Are Blue whales the the largest animal that has ever lived, or where there ever larger animals in the prehistoric ages?
>> Anonymous
>>177211
Read:
>>177139
>> Anonymous
Someone mentioned a giant sky monster, and now I want to hear more about it.
>> Anonymous
>>177213
As far as anybody can tell, yes. Even Leedsichthys, a previous contender, has turned out to have been about 10 meters shorter than a blue whale. If something bigger, or at least as big, as a blue whale has lived at some point in Earth's history, we haven't found any evidence of it yet.
>> Anonymous
Comparing this thing to a blue whale is ridiculous. This thing is at least 2000 feet tall for fucks sake. Giant non-boiling ocean next to a star.
>> Anonymous
>>177232
Wouldn't you just love to "crashland" on that planet and sit in your tiny life raft with the knowledge that thing is somewhere underneath you?
>> Anonymous
>>177235
I feel that way everyday, but then I fap and it shrinks.
>> oriental warrior
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hay guys, smallest craft is roughly 20-50 metres, and largest are laaarge

how could this large ship orbit a planet without doing shit to its ecosystem
>> Anonymous
>>177252
They can't, unless they cancel out the gravity-well caused by the ship itself.
>> Anonymous
Jupiter has an equatorial diameter of 141,700 km compared to Earth's 12,800 km. This means that Jupiter is 11 times the diameter of the Earth. So if earth has whales that are 100 feet long, why can't a Jupiter sized planet have animals 11 times that size?
>> Anonymous
needs lime for reference
>> Anonymous
>>177256
Ever heard of gravity?
>> Anonymous
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sauce on the motherships! that's some interesting work...

and yes, it would. Something that large would totally rival the moon's gravity, throwing the oceans out of wack and if it got close enough it may even disturb the climate of the planet by its huge ass gravity pulling at the gas and wind currents. Not to mention it would have a similar problem with its own ships. How the hell does it fly beside those battle ships without screwing with its gravity!?

also, that's not necessarily true about Jupiter. Earth and Jupiter's size aren't the only things to be different, so is their composition and climate. Jupiter is full of torrential gases that whip up storms that would tear our planet into pieces, maintains such a high magnetic field that it causes the moons around it to remain geologically active, and a gravity to crush anything after it passes its many gaseous layers.

If ANYTHING could live and form on Jupiter it would be small spore-like glider or balloon type creatures that use the light Hydrogen gas to remain on the upper layer atmosphere and just hang around all day filter feeding or photosynthesizing somehow.
>> Anonymous
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continued...the bigger the planet is doesn't mean the bigger the organisms will be. quite the contrary and not just because of gravity.

stresses from storms like these will have life that can only form in one of the upper layers somehow making their own food in some way we haven't figured out to do without the vital nutrients available in the soil. In order for cyanobacteria or plants to photosynthesize they require key ingredients from the soil (be it under polar oceans or on land) like Phospherous or Nitrogen. Jupiter comprising primarily of liquid hydrogen and helium...I don't see quite how any organic chemistry could form the right kinds of life to make use of these materials...it just doesn't seem feasible.
>> Anonymous
OP here, whoops i sat on it.
>> Anonymous
>>176551
Some how, I almost thought this would work. Wtf is wrong with me?
>> Anonymous
no, a creature with an exoskeleton like that would collapse under its own weight. even if it didn't, the way they breath, with little holes on the side, would suffocate them, because they couldn't breathe fast enough to get sufficient oxygen to their body
>> Anonymous
>>177278
It's from the mmorpg EVE online
>> Anonymous
WEIGHT of the creature should not matter at all. It's obvious that such a creature in the picture could have strategic stores of helium in it's organs and muscles, lightening the load overall, and giving it a humorously high pitched voice.
>> Anonymous
If a creature that large slammed into the ocean floor or reared up like that and fell, it would cause all sorts of tsunami madness.
>> Anonymous
>>177334
Psh, think of the hell caused just by the wakes of it moving.
>> Anonymous
That thing swimming is what causes waves. Not the moon, lol.
>> Anonymous
most likely no
>> Anonymous
Anyone with me on getting this archived on 4chanarchive and possibly make a continuation when it's Marked For Deletion (Old)?

More than anything, I'm gonna look back to this thread about a year from now, and pray it gets me a good grade on my final.
>> Anonymous
Hah, that thing, you say?

My penis is larger.
>> Anonymous
>>177487
I can't believe this got me, but I lol'd.
>> Anonymous
>>177478
Problem is /an/ isn't an option board for archiving.
Can someone mail moot or something? I second this awesome shit.
>> sage sage
>>177491
JUST SCREENCAP THEN COMBINE
>> Anonymous
i dont think people relize just how vast and deep the ocean is
>> Anonymous
>>177562
troll harder
>> Anonymous
>>177576
that guy isn't trolling. he's telling the fucking truth.
>> Anonymous
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i don't think people realize how deep and vast this thread is.

screencap ALL of this!? 0_o; dear god, are you mad? and when should we do this, after everyone stops posting? hm...maybe I should start now since everyone's being either retards or praisers...or lurkers but there are always those
>> Anonymous
>>177586
then screencap+combine until you can't handle it anymoar, then post what you've completed for the next anon to do?
>> Anonymous
hm...makes more sense, but should the next thread be exactly this continued or should we just call it EPIC and post flippin large scale shit?
>> Anonymous
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>>177586
i don't think people realize how deep
>> Anonymous
>>177585
True. Oceans cover about 70% of Earth's surface and are on average several kilometers deep. The human mind just can't fully grasp such vastness.

What the human mind can grasp, on the other hand, is how large an animal can be until it becomes impossible.
>> Anonymous
>>177586
Wait, screencap? Why?
I brought up archiving only because the photos and quote-functions are preserved. If those don't matter, you can just click File > Save As
But they do matter, specifically the quotes.

Oh wait, it just hit me I never fucking tried the quotes. Furthermore I never tried it when the thumbnails are fully sized with the 4chan plugin.
Will tell if it works.
>> Anonymous
Alright, for me it works. Archived and uploaded, check it it works full-size for you guys too.

http://www.mediafire.com/?axruyxe4f1d
>> Anonymous
>>177624
All that zip contains is the 4chan frameset. No images, not even this thread. YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG
>> Anonymous
>>177636
didja virus scan?
>> Anonymous
>>177637
File Size: 639 B
>> Anonymous
>>177636
Fuck, I downloaded it from a different computer and it doesn't work.
Meh, here's a TUTORIAL just for you guys.
1. Open site in Firefox with 4chan add-on. If you do not care for pictures, skip 2
2. Click on the thumbnails you want to open them on the same page.
3. Save As from File menu, check if works. If not, you suck.

TIME FOR A NEW THREAD