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What has science done?!

Or rather, what should they do? Jurassic Park was far from factually accurate, but new discoveries are raising the possibility of recovering genetic material from long extinct animals. It's not unlikely that eventually we can sequence some of the genome of extinct animals, If possible, should scientists attempt to clone these animals for study and/or profit? Should scientists genetically manipulate living animals (like emus) to try to recreate dinosaurian traits? And should we go a step forward and experiment with designer animals, with new and interesting traits for study and amusement?

I want a pet dinobear. With a saddle for riding it.
>> Anonymous
I was just reading through that site with the polar dinosaurs.

Baleen squids, shit is so cash.

As far as cloning extinct wildlife is concerned, go for it. Sure, some might question the idea of playing God, but I'm interested as to how dinosaurs would survive in a more modern environment.

Then again, I'm not sure 21st century Earth's atmosphere has the oxygen levels they would need to survive.
>> Anonymous
There are already genetically altered pets in the form of "Glo-fish" Google them.

The religious nut jobs will ruin "dinosaurs"(Bald birds with teeth) for the rest of us, just watch.
>> Anonymous
Oh hay, is that the new troll mount for WotLK?
>> Anonymous
I've always felt that the creation of large dragons would solve every problem facing the world today.
Just require a special license to kill them. Make them reproduce often. and big enough and smart enough to be man eaters.

Obesity. Gone. Only those who can escape survive.
Idiocy. Gone
Car Pollution. Gone. We can all ride domesticated dragons.


This plan is failproof
>> Anonymous
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Go for it.
>> Demyx's Blue-Marine !!vjyCRKGc15d
>>307261
Use bird DNA to give them very efficient lungs for getting as much oxygen as possible.
>> Anonymous
>>307354
Didn't the era when the xbawks hueg dinosaurs lived have a significantly less amount of oxygen than we do today? I read somewhere that to cope with this that they developed lung like organs that went through their ribs so they could get more oxygen per breath. So if thats the case I think their lungs are efficient enough, and might actually get to much oxygen if thats possible.
>> Anonymous
>>307356

no they had significantly MORE oxygen, back in the mesozoic era.
>> Anonymous
>>307356
>>307357
You're both half right. At first there was a severe dearth of oxygen, leading to the development of the dinosaurian air sac lung. Then oxygen levels rose dramatically, leading to giant dinosaurs, thanks to those super-effective lungs. So for supergiant sauropods and things like Allosaurus and Tyrannosaurus our atmosphere might be too oxygen poor, but the smaller dinosaurs would survive just fine, like birds do.

Backwards-engineering birds to dinosaurs would be interesting, if they could ever make it work. Dromaeosaurs like Velociraptor were essentially secondarily flightless protobirds, so many traits they and first birds had in common might still be conserved somewhere in the modern bird genome, or at least relatively easy to bring back.
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This threads needs more arctic dinosaurs
>> Anonymous
>You're both half right. At first there was a severe dearth of oxygen, leading to the development of the dinosaurian air sac lung. Then oxygen levels rose dramatically, leading to giant dinosaurs, thanks to those super-effective lungs.

prove it
>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
>>307368
Prove what? The oxygen levels, the aviant-type lungs or the gigantism?
>> Anonymous
>>307382

all of it
>> Anonymous
>>307387
You can start by reading this:
http://books.nap.edu/catalog.php?record_id=11630
(Yes, it's free)
>> Anonymous
they've been saying for years they could impregnate an Asian Elephant with recovered Mammoth sperm
>> Anonymous
>>307391
Well, that at least is a possibility. Although they'd probably have to make the mammoth sperm from a mammoth stem cell. Apparently mammoth testicles don't preserve well even in frozen corpses.
>> Anonymous
>>307394
balls and freezing temperatures don't mix? Who would've thought?
>> Anonymous
>>307391
they did clone a mammoth and placed it in an asian elephant. it was birthed and survived a few months to a year before it died.
>> Anonymous
>>307470
No they didn't. That was a dream you had.
>> Anonymous
There is a much simpler way to recreate dinosaurian traits, pick the most dinosaurian like bird, selectively breed them with other most dinosaurian like birds in same species. Repeat for a few dozen generations and you'll see the dinosaurian traits more defined.

hell we've done that to Wolves and we created a new species the dog.
>> Anonymous
>>307478
And what if those birds aren't expressing those traits, because the genes are broken down or completely silenced in a normal bird? You could end up breeding generations upon generations of birds without a single one with teeth, unfused fingers or unfused tails. Whereas in genetic engineering you might achieve all three traits in one generation.
>> Anonymous
Bring back the thylacine, for one.
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i wanna fight a t-rex
>> Anonymous
>>307478
It's not a new species.
>> Juba, The Baghdad Sniper !1EVr3uyPJI
>>307478
Obviously you don't know the meaning of "species"

2 members of a different species cannot mate with each other and produce offspring. Explain half-wolves.
>> Anonymous
>>307718
"species" is an awfully fuzzy concept. There are quite a few groups of animals where most of the species can interbreed successfully (some even result in fertile offspring), and even cases of species from different genera interbreeding...
>> Anonymous
>>307718
Correction, they cannot produce a "fertile offspring."

That is why mules are sterile.

However, dogs are different species than wolves due to speciation induced by the induced selection known as "breeding".
>> Anonymous
>>307760
>>Correction, they cannot produce a "fertile offspring."

You might want to rethink that one too.

Th correct answer is
"Whatever a taxonomist can convince another group of taxonomists is different enough to warrant him getting to name it after himself or Stephen Colbert."
I want this on Wiki within the hour.
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>>307780

forgot pic
>> Anonymous
>>307781
lol wtf forgot post

>>307360
>>Backwards-engineering birds to dinosaurs would be interesting, if they could ever make it work. Dromaeosaurs like Velociraptor were essentially secondarily flightless protobirds, so many traits they and first birds had in common might still be conserved somewhere in the modern bird genome, or at least relatively easy to bring back.

We already have a head start just figure out hwo to get some teeth on a cassowary you guinea and ausifags are fucked.
>> Demyx's Blue-Marine !!vjyCRKGc15d
>>307735
The domestic dog isn't a species. It's a race within Canis lupus. Dogs and wolves can freely interbreed and have fertile offspring.

Lions and tigers, horses and donkeys, and various dolphins can interbreed and have offspring, but the fruits of their loins are always sterile. They're separate species with enough chemical similarity to breed but not enough to ensure a new race/species/what have you.
>> Anonymous
>>307506
How would doing so benefit mankind?
>> Anonymous
The only way any of you are going to see a real Dinosaur is by building a time machine and going back in time.