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Wolfdogs = half dog/half wolf hybrids.

Dumb idea or awesomest idea?
>> Anonymous
awesome only to people who know how to take care of them and not to people who just want one because they are 'awesome'.
>> Anonymous
Agreed with previous poster.

We have one and she finally started to calm down once she hit 11 years of age.
>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
I heard they'll randomly flip out and kill people when their brain suddenly switches to "wolf" mode.
>> Anonymous
Happens at farms sometimes around here. Too bad they're actually illegal to own here and if a veterinarian ever finds out they are required by law to dispose of it (ie- put down). Not that they do that frequently unless the animal has attacked anyone but the thought is that the 'wolf' part can just never be properly domesticated.
>> Anonymous
>>173323
i bet you have a similar opinion about pits.
>> Anonymous
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for the most part, dumb. they have conflicting instincts and thought processes.
its like purposefully breeding kids with mental disorders just because they look cool.
>> Anonymous
Strange that the opinion Pitbulls are an ok breed is held by amaericans and thety also hold the idea guns are fine.
They also have fucking issues with both of them
Countires that think other wise ,not so much problems.
>> Anonymous
>>173340
true, when you're subservient enough to let somebody else think for you, problems solved!
>> Anonymous
>>173340

Pits are trained to be vicious. They aren't naturally human aggressive. So the weapon, may it be a dog or a gun, is the HUMANS FAULT.
>> Anonymous
>>173340

English, motherfucker. Do you speak it?
>> Anonymous
>Pits are trained to be vicious.

Maybe, but they're also BRED to be vicious ...
>> Anonymous
>>173378

They were bred for aggression, but that's not the same thing as viciousness. Unless a pit is trained to attack humans it will just act as a very good guard dog.
>> Anonymous
>>173381
Agreed. A neighbor had a pitbull and it was a realy good guard dog. They've had it since it was a pup and as such, didn't attack people randomly.
>> Anonymous
pits should be eradicated
>> Anonymous
My sister has a pitbull and it's the friendliest dog ever... but it's strong enough that it can knock me flat on the ground to lick my face :p
>> Anonymous
http://www.wltx.com/FYI/story.aspx?storyid=44739
>> Anonymous
http://www.leerburg.com/wolf2.htm
>> Anonymous
>>173326

How do you think they made DOGS?!?
>> Anonymous
i dont know, but how 'wolf' is a husky breed, because if i wanted a dog, i would get a husky
>> Anonymous
Dogs as descended from wolves faggots. Hundereds of years of selective breeding changes shit. Just look at breeds of cow, pig
>> Anonymous
>>173487
But the point remains the same: dogs are SO different from wolves that breeding a dog to a wolf creates animals with PROBLEMS.
>> Anonymous
It has a lot to do with how you raise the animal. If you're a moron, then you probably shouldn't have one. However, if you are extremely dedicated, and very careful, it's probably not an issue.

So for the average person yes, they're probably not a great choice. Go with something like a German Shepherd instead (and again you must be responsible, obviously).
>> Anonymous
Is OP even aware of what kind of pets they make?
>> Anonymous
>>173378

Pit bulls were bred to be aggressive toward other animals and dogs, not toward people. In fact, more submissive temperaments around humans was encouraged in the pit bull's breeding. After all, who wants a fifty pound aggressive dog that isn't easily controlled by humans? That's why, during the beginning of the 20th century, pit bulls were not only used in police and military work, but they were also used as assistance and therapy dogs. Helen Keller's trained guide dog was a pit.

Problem pit bulls occur when people who shouldn't even be allowed to reproduce fail to train them either properly or at all. If you walk down to your local ghetto or trailer park and check out the caliber of people who have these dogs tied out on chains in their backyard (traileryard?), then you will understand.
>> Anonymous
The differences between Pit Bulls and most other breeds are:

They are horribly common. The sheer numbers mean you are going to have a significant number of bites reported. If you have millions of dogs, and only five percent attack people, then that is still a huge number.

Lots of dogs bite people. Most of the toy breeds I've known are actually more likely to bite then a Pit. When a Pit bites, though, they are powerful enough to cause severe damage with very little effort. What may have been a minor nip from a smaller or less powerful breed often becomes a hospital stay in the case of a Pit.

The people who typically own Pit Bulls are people who can often barely take care of themselves. Asking them to responsibly take care of another life form is asking too much. There are Pit owners who take incredibly good care of their animals and know exactly what it takes to responsibly care for a large powerful breed. They are, sadly, the minority.

Most of this rings true for wolfdogs as well, except for, thankfully, the numbers part. They can be wonderful animals in the right hands, but those hands are far and few between.
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This thread is about wolfdogs, not pits.. sorry for even bringing pits up.. ffs
>> Anonymous
>>173869

Fucking cry moar. If sudden thread topic changes bother you, then please feel free to get the fuck off of 4chan. Christ.
>> Anonymous
Pitbull terriers, when they bite into something, they'll never let go, and you'll shit bricks. I once had a friend with a pit terrier - threw it a stick to fetch, when he took it back, the theeth were in it to his gums :S

Sort of related to pitbulls.
>> Anon
>>173557
It's like a step backwards.
>> Anonymous
>>173708Most of this rings true for wolfdogs as well, except for, thankfully, the numbers part. They can be wonderful animals in the right hands, but those hands are far and few between.

Most animal professionals and animal groups would disagree with you. Wolfdogs are dangerous because they're genetically unpredictable. Check out this article written by a wildlife expert who specializes in wolfs:

http://www.wolfpark.org/wolfdogs/children_and_wolfdogs.html
>> Anonymous
dumb idea for the average citizen. awesomest idea for informed, dedicated canine fanciers.
>> Anonymous
>>173881dumb idea for the average citizen. awesomest idea for informed, dedicated canine fanciers.

Only if you live in an isolated area, away from other people.
>> Bitter Anon !!WJLRQ1cwCyZ
>>173881
"dedicated canine fanciers"? Thank deity for anger control therapy
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>>173872
Its not the sudden topic change, its the fact that I'm SICK OF PEOPLE WHO CANT GET OVER PIT BULLS.
>> Anonymous
Big dogs are for little dick men
>> Anonymous
Statistics show that most wolfdog owners are furries.
>> Anonymous
>>173919
that mean you're into lap dogs?
>> Anonymous
>>173301
bad idea is baaaaaaaad
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Fuck you all, I'm getting a dachshund.
>> Anonymous
>>173880

I don't think said they should be children's companions, did I? They are not pets. They CAN be wonderful animals in the right hands, as long as those hands are trained and fully aware that they are just as wild as their wolf parents. Letting a child anywhere near one, especially unattended, is stupid beyond words. You would be just as well off letting your child play with a Tiger.

The majority of hybrids that I've known were quite trustworthy with the adults that had taken care of and raised them. Mind you, these were people who were experienced and trained in the rescue of wolves and hybrids from poor situations. Some can be quite sweet, but most where standoffish or even aggressive with people they didn't know. You have treat them with respect, but you can't condemn them for being in a situation out of their control.
>> Anonymous
>>173948
Haha I second that!
>> Anonymous
>>173881
fuck you furfag
>> Anonymous
>>173963
fuck you furfag
>> Anonymous
Let's just agree that you shouldn't get one if you're a furry, or have small children, or both (though that's unlikely).
>> Anonymous
Chow Chows and Akitas are waaaaayyyy more unpredictable and vicious than pitbulls, they just aren't nearly as popular.

Wolfdogs are a horrible idea for anyone who doesn't have a huge yard, some serious skills with canines, and a decent reason for wanting one. I can understand taking abused or neglected wolfdogs in, but I don't think you should be breeding them on purpose. There is no reason to do so other than 'I think they're better/bigger/cooler/smarter than a regular dog'. A wolf tests its pack all the time in order to gain rank, a dog hardly ever does, and a wolf will not hold back if it thinks it can dominate you. If you can't handle an extremely dominant breed like a Tosa Inu, you can't handle a wolfdog, in general. Although of course there will always be exceptions, wolfdogs that are very submissive and sweet natured consistently. But this is not the rule. You have to be dedicated like crazy in order to have high percentage wolfdogs, and you have to have a pack for them to socialize with.

And its worth noting that no one is quite sure which kind(s) of wolf(s) dogs evolved from; there are wolves all over the world, and its more likely that they evolved from smaller, less majestic scrub land wolves rather than what we think of when we think 'wolf' in North America. However, there isn't much difference between all of the wolf species, except for level of sociability and fur thickness/color. Remember, just because a dog can breed with a wolf does not mean a dog and a wolf are enough alike in instinct to mesh well with each other. Dogs and coyotes can breed as well, and that usually results in a very skiddish, shy coydog.
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