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BearBait
Help, /an/, please. My little betta is sick, he has spots just like the one in the picture on his head and some on his body, and it's spreading.

I just moved him to a new, larger tank about two weeks about, I've had him for maybe a month or two. =(

Can anyone tell me what's wrong, and what to do? He seems perfectly fine other wise, he seis around, eats whenever I feed him, and his finds still spread out like normal...

I tried reading other sites, but I just got so confused. Please help me.
>> Anonymous
>>91510

Oh come on, like you haven't thought of it before?
>> Anonymous
What's wrong with /an/ today...
>> BearBait
>>91520

What's wrong with it is 12 year old /b/ fags accidentily clicked a little too high while they were jerking off to whatever their little furry selves jerk off to.
>> Anonymous
Those spots look like ick. Check the water quality and your local pet store for medication. Quick Cure has worked well for me in the past. If you moved him to a new tank, did you wait for it to fully cycle before moving him?
>> Anonymous
Other Useful Links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichthyophthirius_multifiliis - explains what is happening

http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showforum=5 - Great place and people to ask about Bettas. /b/tards usually get weeded out quick.
>> BearBait
>>91526
I'm sorry, but I'm an idiot, I've never had fish since I was a little kid, what exactly do you mean by cycle?

It's a small tank that I used to keep my tetras in, about a single gallon, but I couldn't keep them alive, thewater was never warm enough. =(

+ What kind of thermometor would be best for such a tank? My other three bettas (a boy and two girls) Live in a very low maintence tank, and they've never had any problems for the last 8 months.
>> Anonymous
>>91543

Just grab it and fuck it!
>> Anonymous
>>91543
there are thermometers availabe that you can stick to the tank sides (in the water).
Low maintenance + fish = does not compute.
Do you have a sufficient filter?
Do you change water on a regular basis?
>> Anonymous
No filter, I don't even know how I'd connect it, considering how the cover on the tank is. O_O

But I have one of those weird oxygen rock things...But that just give them more breathabl;e air, right?
>> Anonymous
Kill it with fire!
>> Anonymous
>>91627
How do I go about that?
>> Anonymous
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichthyophthirius

Looks like it's got Ich spots. You should buy some drugs that cure it. It's a common disease.
>> Anonymous
>>91630

Take the fish out of the tank, dry it off, hose it down with lighter fluid, set, match, run.
>> Anonymous
>>91520
The idiots of /b/ who don't know how to fix their board have travelled to other boards. They all need to gtfo.
>> Anonymous
>>91627
Kill /b/tards with fire

fixed

Also, filter the tank and get a vet to look at him?
>> Anonymous
Bettas dont need large spaces and don't really need a water filtration system, just take out oa cup of their aquarium water every week, and add in a cup of new water which has been sitting in open air for at least 2-3 days to evaporate chlorine.

Yeah its got ICK, you can treat him with an ICK solution from any pet store.

Did you use StressCoat or StressZyme when you moved him over to new tank?

Did you let the new tank water sit for a few days or condition it with stuff before putting him in?
>> Anonymous
>>91678
Bettas do not need large spaces, but what kind of size is the tank you suggest where the weekly waterchange only consists of one cup?
Just because bettas can Survive in tiny containers with poorly oxygenated and bad quality water it won't mean they're happy with it.
One should have a container of at least 3-4 gallons for one betta, 20-30% waterchange once a week or preferably 15-20% twice a week, which will make it easier to maintain a biological balance in such a small tank. Some kind of water cirkulation device with a filter should also be concidered, it's not neccessary for the actual Survival of the fish, but good quality water is quite important for its well-being.
>> Anonymous
>>91930
Is this true? I have a betta right now in a 2 gallon tank with an itty bitty heater and no filtration. BUT this summer I want to move him to a larger tank and give him a couple community fish friends and a snail, since I won't have to move him back to uni in the fall (hence the small tank).
>> Anonymous
>>91939
Forgot to continue XD

SO HOW BIG OF A TANK SHOULD I GET? Would 5gal be enough for my betta, a couple friends, and a snail? With friends in there, should I filter it?
>> Anonymous
you ALWAYS cycle a new tank, let it run for at least a few days, until then, as previously mentioned go to the pet store and get treatment chemicals for the water.
>> Anonymous
>>91940
>>91939

2 gallons is a bit too small,

3-5 gallons: good for a betta and a couple of snails/caridina shrimp
5-7: a betta and possibly 1-2 otocinclus catfish
8-10: betta with a couple of females (always get at least 2 females, they will get too much attention otherwise) or a small group of tetras/small community tank fish

But my suggestion is that you should get as big a tank you can afford and have space for, the bigger the tank the easier it gets. and you'll have more fish to chose from :)
>> Anonymous
>>91950
I read that while it's possible to keep multiple females with males, it's better not to try because there's a good chance that the females will gang up on the male.

I'll have the option of a ten-gallon (I'm moving my hermit crabs out of it into a 20L) but I would like to keep the 10gal around for winter molting and I don't know if there's a place for it to be set up in as an actual fish tank o_O
>> Anonymous
>>92061

as temper and personalitys tend to vary Alot from betta to betta there's no telling what will happen.
The females can gang up on the male or on eachother, whereas the male is just as likely abuse the females, violently or sexually.
However, with sufficient space and places to hide they will do just fine.
>> Anonymous
As tempers and personalities tend to vary a lot from person to person, there's no telling what will happen.

The females can gang up on the male or on each other, whereas the male is just as likely abuse the females, violently or sexually.

However, with sufficient space and places to hide , they will do just fine.
>> Anonymous
has anyone here giving all this advice (and by advice, i mean 'cycling means running the filter for 2 days' and 'put females with males lulz, they raep each other') actually kept a fish alive for more than a few weeks? jesus h. people

OP - clean water, a tiny heater and aquarium salt are good things to have. filters are completely unnecessary with bettas, because they get a great deal of their oxygen by breathing air.

1. keep his water clean. the smaller the container he's in, the more frequent his water changes need to be. if he's in a bowl, 100% water changes. if in a tank, 25% weekly changes.

2. gradually acclimate him to salt. get a cup, put some of his water in it, let the salt dissolve and slowly (over the course of hours) add the salinated water to his bowl

3. give him an aquatic heater (minimum bowl size = 2+ gallons), it should say on the box what size they're made for. the raised temp speeds the life cycle of the parasite, the cysts burst, and the salt kills the larvae

READ THE INSTRUCTIONS ON THE SALT CONTAINER FOR HOW MUCH TO ADD. it varies sometimes

the most important part of keeping fish healthy is clean water, a clean environment and aquarium salt are the best disease preventative measures

and my apologies for coming off like an asshole in the beginning, seeing some of the fishkeeping info floating around that will only wind up killing the fish annoys me
>> Anonymous
>>92534
changing the water too often is not good.
Fish can get skin problems.
That's why a filter is a good idea.