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noko Anonymous
/an/, something terrible happened tonight...

My brother moved out about a year ago. His girlfriend is a vet nurse and when he did they adopted a staffy that had once been abused. I guess he wanted a normal dog as well so they bought a puppy staffy cross labrador or some shit.

About a little less than a year later, tonight, my brothers leaves his dogs with me and my parents so he can go on a short holiday.

I do my best to keep an eye on them, but so much can happen in so little time. So I hear a weird noise outside, it's my budgie squawking and--holy shit--I left her cage outside by accident.

Basically, my brothers staffy-lab has destroyed the cage and is running around the backyard with my poor budgie in its mouth, and the thing is screaming as it dies. Even though I chased the dog as long as I could, he wouldn't give her up. Pretty soon she stopped making any noise. A wekk earlier, my budgie's partner died from old age, that budgie I'd had for years.

I'm not sure how I'm meant to act in this situation, how I'm meant to discipline the dogs, I'm so disgusted by the idea that the staffy-lab is eating my bird right now. Not to mention the cunt--I know he's basically a puppy but still--has already done hundreds of dollars worth of damage...

I don't know /an/, I'm not good with pets, those birds are the only pets I've had and they've both died in the past week. Basically, I'm asking if there's any particular way I should respond to the dogs so they know they've done something wrong.

This shit is tearing my heart up...
>> Anonymous
The dog did what's in its nature. There's nothing you can do to discipline it. If anything, you should be self-flagellating yourself in a darkened closet for leaving your bird's cage outside.

In before the story about the scorpion and the fox.
>> Anonymous
om nom nom
>> Anonymous
>>226509
Beat that ugly cunt.
>> Anonymous
Congratulations
>> Anonymous
anything you do now the dog won't realize it was about that.

Dogs are bred from predators. Your fault for putting the budgie cage in it's reach, you are (hopefully) the most intelligent animal. Discipline yourself for being a dumbass.
>> Anonymous
I know how you feel OP. Some years ago, my mom left my kitten in the backyard, and when I went outside to retrieve it, our Old English Sheepdog had my beloved kitten in it's mouth.

I honestly wanted to kill the dog, but I didn't. I just never went into the backyard again, and basically ignored the dog's existence. Incidentally that's what I did to my mom, too.
>> Anonymous
>>226851
I hope you got some therapy.
>> Anonymous
>>226853
Seriously.
>> Anonymous
>>226853
Naw.
>> Anonymous
Aren't you the one with the brother who beat his puppy and raped his cat?
>> Anonymous
>>226867
Uh...no.
>> Remi187
>>226514
>>story about the scorpion and the fox.

tell me about this, fox and scorpion tale of yours, and i would listen.
>> Anonymous
Dogs are followers, they follow the leader and they need rules. If the human didn't set firm boundaries or isn't much of a leader then things like this happen. So responsibility lies with the brother for dumping his dogs in a new place without proper adjustments and teaching. He owes you some cash and an apology.
>> Jas
you can't blame the dog. First of all it's a puppy, and it sees a bird, and so did what is natural to it and attacked it. It's very sad, and I am sorry for your loss, but you can't reprimand the dog. If you punish the dog now, after the fact, and not when it happens the dog will have no idea what it's being punished over. You brother owes you a bird, and money for damages the puppy did, but the puppy just followed its instinct.

My dog killed a baby rabbit because he thought it was a squeaky toy. It was horrible but he didn't know any better, and you can't punsih the dog for that.
>> Anonymous
>>226514
>>226535
>>226992

Sure, grabbing at a budgie that's totaly accessible is what dogs do, but destroying a cage in order to get at the bird? That's an entirely different can of worms.
Next, the dog will smash an aquarium to get at the pretty fishes, a rabbit hutch to get at the rabbits - and one day, will smash your bedroom door to get at you.

If OP's feeling particularly vicious, OP should get the dog put down, then apologise about how it bit a neighbour or some shit. As the other posters said, there is absolutely no way you could discipline them out of something like this.
>> Anonymous
Destroying the cage could have been just knocking it over, and if the pup stepped on it, might have done more damage.

It's a puppy. If you didn't think you could handle the dog, you shouldn't have let your brother leave it with you. You left your bird outside (why? who knows...).
>> Anonymous
>noko Anonymous 03/21/08(Fri)09:35 No.226509
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>> Anonymous
I have a staffy lab cross. when she was a puppy, she nearly ate my guinae pig, and ended up giving her a heart attack by barking at her so much. Then a year or so later, a bird somehow got into our house and stuck under the cough (I know, wtf?) and she killed it before we could get it out.
It's just in their nature, you can't do anything about it except make sure they can't get anywhere near things they can kill.
Especially staffys. they're hyperactive hunting dogs.

As for punishing dogs in general, remember you can only punish a dog like 2 seconds after it's done something otherwise it wont be able to associate the punishment with what it did and it'll just think you're a total bitch.

Best you can do for now is make sure your brother helps pay for the damages they've caused, and make sure to keep an eye on the dogs and stop them when they try and wreck something - but if you chase them around and yell, they'll just think you're playing. I don't really have any more I can tell you though, since I was only a kid when our dog was a puppy, so I don't really remember what we did.
Don't listen to>>226996though. Doesn't know what he's on about. Cats will do anything they can to get birds and fish aswell - it makes no difference what the animal does to get to it. They're just it's natural prey. It doesn't mean they're a danger to humans or other dogs.
>> Anonymous
>>227039
>stuck under the couch
>> Anonymous
>>227039

You've obviously never heard of the practice of "tasting blood" in which when you train a dog to be vicious, the best way is to offer it small hapless creatures to be killed by the dog. Maybe several small hapless creatures.

Once the dog has learnt that it is permissible to do such, it will slowly move on to bigger and better things: there is no going back on it.

Sure, you would argue "MY DOG was like that but MY DOG doesn't do that to ME" ... yeah well, you're the owner, and you're arguing an exception against an extremely prevalent practice that is guaranteed results. How many cases of vicious dogs have you heard in which the target was the owner?

>>227020

Is the cage made of wickerwork where you live or something? Trust me, it takes a considerable amount of force and determination to get at any wireframe birdcage.

It's also probably not the first time the dog got away with doing something like that.