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ITT Global Warming Anonymous
We pretty much dont have winter anymore around where I live.
>> Anonymous
Where's that?
>> Anonymous
in your bum
>> Anonymous
*giggle* and to think thirty years ago, these exact same arguements were used to explain global cooling

Ah the hubris of man
>> Anonymous
>>112921
you seem to be truly an expert in this topic.

care to state sources
>> Anonymous
>>112926
fox news
>> Anonymous
>>112921
"This is largely a myth. A handful of scientists in the 1970s believed they were witnessing a process of "global cooling" that - if extrapolated for a very long period - would lead to an Ice Age. They said this was simply a possibility worth exploring, and they admitted the evidence was woefully insufficient. A few populist magazines ran with the idea but the scientists always expressed extreme uncertainty.

Today, by contrast, there is a near-complete scientific consensus that man-made global warming is happening and could be disastrous. The evidence is not patchy and partial, as the "global cooling" scientists always admitted theirs was; it is massive and overwhelming."
>> Anonymous
>>112928
FOX NEWS AND THINKTANKS ASSERT ALL OF THIS IS A NATURAL PROCESS RELATED TO ICE AGES
>> Anonymous
>>112933
Also, CO2 does not cause any warming. The greenhouse effect is a liberal atheist evolutionist lie!
>> Anonymous
>>112943
you forgot muslim communists.
>> Anonymous
>>112921

A bullshit argument against global warming that has been refuted a billion and one times? On MY Internet?
>> Anonymous
>>112943

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sGKvDNdJNA

GODDAMN LIBERALS WANT TO OUTLAW BREATHING
>> Anonymous
>>112921
Hey, you're right! Scientists were wrong one time about a fundamentally different matter, so that must mean they're wrong about everything else ever! The Earth doesn't revolve around the sun! Stars are actually little flying light bulbs! Cats are made of ham! And if scientists say otherwise, don't believe them, because one time thirty years ago they were wrong about a thing!
>> Anonymous
>>112949
Look, it's all really liberal propaganda. Disregard fox news and all that shit. Think tanks have proven that it's all part of an ice age cycle since the beginning times of earth
>> Anonymous
>>112953
For the purposes of this post, we shall refer to "scientists who work for oil companies" as "think tanks."
>> Anonymous
>>112951
"CO2 has freed us from a world of back-breaking labor." Yeah, tell that to the third world, lady. There's more physical labor now than ever before, it's just in different places.
>> Anonymous
>>112955
I think she meant "Co2 has freed white people from a world of backbreaking labor."
>> Anonymous
>>112954

We shall also refer to "international scientific consensus" as "liberal propaganda".
>> Anonymous
yes, stop all CO2 production, not like plants don't convert it to oxygen or anything... Save the planet! starve the plants!
>> Anonymous
what will the hippies do when they have to give up their bongs to keep pollution down?!
>> Anonymous
>>112983

gb2/biology/, fucktard. Plants only act as a carbon sink as they grow. The only way to decrease atmospheric CO2 content via plants is to increase the total mass of plants on the planet, not wait for the ones we have to magically vanish it out of the atmosphere. Given the quantities of excess CO2 presently in the atmosphere, that is not a feasible solution, not by any stretch of the imagination.
>> Anonymous
>>112985

Switch to fusion like the rest of us. Hard. Core.
>> Anonymous
Americans are hopeless
>> Anonymous
global warming is not yet happening at a rate that you would notice a difference perceptively. Particularly warm summers or droughts or the such is THE FUCKING WAY WEATHER HAS WORKED FOREVER FAGGOT.
>> Anonymous
>>113389
Actually you are dead wrong, Global_warming_expert.
>> menchi !IgWlr3a0sk
global warming is horseshit.
it's a natural climate shift.
>> Anonymous
The earth has only heated up by half a degree over the last 150 years. Hardly a warming.
>> Anonymous
This thread sucks, there aren't any cats in it.
>> Anonymous
>>113410
Well, if you consider humans a part of nature, and that all the extra CO2 being spewed into the atmosphere is from originally natural sources, and if the melting of the peat bogs triggers the melting of the immense methane deposits, well that has to be natural too, right? Humans didn't make those deposits after all (and even if they had, they'd be natural if all humans are natural)

VOILA! Global warming is a natural phenomenon! Don't worry about the entire global ecosystem getting fucked up - it's NATURAL!
>> Anonymous
>>113449
And 30 years ago you assholes were moaning that GLOBAL COOLING was going to leave the planet a frozen hunk of ice.

Please just shut the fuck up with your myopic pseudo-science.
>> Anonymous
GB2/X/
>> Anonymous
>>113461
A couple of scientists with barely any proper evidence were saying that there might be some reason to study if we are heading towards a new ice age.

Today pretty much every climate scientist everywhere is saying that the evidence is unequivocal that the global warming is going on RIGHT NOW.

But I guess there's no difference if you're working for Fox News.
>> Anonymous
>>113461
Sometimes it helps, if you read the thread from the fucking BEGINNING trollfag.
>> Anonymous
>>112953
You do know that those think tanks are funded mainly by oil companies and do no actual research themselves? Right?
>> Anonymous
HAY GUYS! Food for thought here:

What has changed over the last few hundred years that would make the world heat up? Asphalt roads. It rains, sun heats up black asphalt, H2O evaporates into the atmosphere causing raised humidity levels and trapping heat. Fuck developed countries for making roads, they're the cause of global warming.
>> Anonymous
>>113493

Also about a hundred years ago was the INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION. We started using fuels at an incredibly unhealthy rate...
>> Anonymous
>>113494
And nothing was EVER BURNED... EVER... before then.

Fuck this shit, I'm going to be dead before anything even MIGHT happen. Why the hell should I care if MAYBE in a generation or five Canada has more farmland and Mexico has less?
>> Anonymous
>>113493
By that logic, overpopulation in Africa is also the cause of "Global Warming".

FUCK YOU AFRICA! >:(
>> Anonymous
This is why Global Warming is a misnomer, it's Climate Change. Things are beginning to fuck up, coral reefs are dying due to water temperature, etc.
>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
Jesus Christ politics piss me off. Everyone puts in so much fucking effort to prove to one-another that it exists or does not.

What has been the effect of becomming "aware" of Global Warming? Nations being more conscious of how much energy they waste? Trying to find more reliable sources of energy? Cutting back on things that might muck up our environment? Oh yeah guys, lets get right on this liberal propaganda right now, it's causing HAVOC.
>> Anonymous
>>113493

Erm... sure thing, chief. You might wanna run some numbers on that hypothesis of yours.
>> Anonymous
>>112965We shall also refer to "international scientific consensus" as "liberal propaganda".

>>113537

Carry on.
>> Anonymous
So, at which stage of anthropogenic global warming denialism are YOU?

[ ] Global warming is a myth
[ ] Global warming is real, but humans aren't causing it
[ ] Global warming is real and humans are causing it, but it could be a GOOD THING
>> Anonymous
>>113578
lol, what a concise and accurate depiction of the conservative responses over time
>> Anonymous
>>113578

it is a myth. just like that stupid o-zone layer hole they lied about. that was supposedly cause by aerosol spray cans. if theres a damn hole up there, would the gases not escape?
>> Anonymous
I feel as if I understand more than scientists who make research into the subject their life's work and I'll be damned if anyone disagrees.
>> Anonymous
>>113628

Why ...would gases not escape. I can't believe I just read that. gb2 FUCKING SIXTH GRADE SCIENCE CLASS you MONUMENTAL RETARD.
>> Anonymous
>>113644

ahh man that was too easy. it was a damn joke.
>> Anonymous
jesus would not let this to happen to us
>> Anonymous
>>113628

I'm pretty sure many people wonder about that
>> Anonymous
So when are the y2k killer bee sars going to aids up my bird-flu? I'm already on a busy "media hyped calamity" schedule and don't know if I can work in the current first-world-guilt enviro-fear fad crisis.
>> Anonymous
>>113731
You never know, every once in a while one of these apocalyptic fads turns out to be legit. I hear some folks have still got the AIDS.
>> Anonymous !4X8vLLNDE2
>>113735
Turns out, AIDS is a myth. God just really hates a lot of nigras and fags.
>> Anonymous
>>113746
actually, some people in the gay community have been asserting aids is a myth... for realz, either we got a bunch of trolling psyops or really stupid gay people
>> Anonymous !4X8vLLNDE2
>>113748
I'd love to give them AIDS.
>> Anonymous
>>113750
dude they got websites for that for people looking to "charge up" it's like a fashion thing or some trend in the community right now
>> Anonymous
>>113748
>>113753
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugchasing
>> Anonymous
>>113731

Fine-tune your bullshit detector. It really isn't that hard to tell apart media hysteria and irrefutable scientific fact. Failing that, you should at least be able to recognize the mountains of bullshit regularly ingested and regurgitated by AGW denialists. A well-calibrated bullshit detector should rate the average AGW denialist at about a 6.2, about 0.4 above Holocaust denialists and 3.2 below creationists.
>> Anonymous
Someone post some links to actual scientific journals and research. Try not to post anything thats funded by political organizations.
>> Anonymous
>>113854

You expect people to start digging up citations on _4chon_?!
>> Anonymous
>>113847
"Denialists?" Lovely, so it's now officially a Faith-based issue?
>> Anonymous
>>113854
Google it yourself.

I can't help but think of fstdt when I see all the stupid comments here
>> Anonymous
>>114115
Stupidity in the face of overwhelming science can only be understood as an unerring faith against science and all its various proofs
>> Anonymous
>>114130
Belief that "Science" has one, eternal, and irrefutable truth instead of evolving theorems open to debate can only be understood as an unerring faith against science and its foundation of hypotheses and experimentation.

Science isn't a fucking religion. Stop defending your 'beliefs' as fucking gospel truth, immune to challenge, debate, or discussion. Either you're open to the possibility you are wrong or you are a brain-dead cult member.
>> Anonymous
>>114127
You're a retard, you think google or google scholar is actually credible?
>> Anonymous
>>114159
oh my god. you should troll /x/
>> Anonymous
>>114159
also, being open to being proven wrong exists within the limitations of science. otherwise what? just cuz you say so without any proof, logic, or data to back up your assertions decades of study, work, and money amount to nothing? For some crackpot theory from someone with a g.e.d.? WHERE'S YOUR PROOF MOTHER FUCKER
>> Anonymous
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Lindzen

Professor Richard Lindzen from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, says “future generations will wonder in bemused amazement that the early 21st century’s developed world went into hysterical panic over a globally averaged temperature increase of a few tenths of a degree, and, on the basis of gross exaggerations of highly uncertain computer projections combined into implausible chains of inference, proceeded to contemplate a roll-back of the industrial age”.
>> Anonymous
>>114176http://www.logicalscience.com/skeptics/Lindzen.htm

* Does he have any conflict of interests?
Lindzen recieved $2500 a day from oil and coal interests for his services.1,2, 3 His article "Global Warming: the Origin and Nature of Alleged Scientific Consensus," was underwritten by OPEC.1 Lindzen has lectured at numerous Cooler Heads Coalition meetings. The Cooler Heads Coalition is funded by CEI which is in turn funded by Exxon Mobil. He has also given talks for the George C. Marshall Institute which is also funded by Exxon Mobil. His connections to the oil, coal, and even tobacco industry are apparently rather extensive. Here is one listof many that is worth exploring. Richard Lindzen claims he is currently not recieving any handouts from oil companies.
>> Anonymous
>>114176
You mean the Richard Linzen of MIT that just happens to have ties to Exxon Mobil? Yeah, I'm sure that makes him the most unbiased climatologist in the world...
>> Anonymous
>>114182
>>114186

lol! Cuz all the researchers who get their money from Al Gore, the Sierra Club, and the UN are above suspicion right?
>> Anonymous
>>114187
And those are, what, about every other climatologist on the goddamn planet?
>> Anonymous
>>114187
CUZ WE ALL KNOW AL GORE, THE SIERRA CLUB, AND THE UN ARE BASTIONS OF MONEY ABLE TO FINANCE EVERY OTHER DISSENTING "LIBERAL PROPAGANDA" SPEWING SCIENTISTS AMIRITE?

Dumbfuck. Are you a conservative or a republican? I have to know. There's a trend of you guys shying away from that label with the chimp in chief dying of aids
>> Anonymous
This thread frightens me. It's a living proof of how badly fucked up the US has become sciencewise. Not only does the government try to alter science when it doesn't fit the official line (which is exactly what they used to do in the good old USSR), but the entire populace is being driven into doubting international science when its findings are against government/corporate interests.

What happened to you, United States? You used to be the leader of the civilized world.
>> Anonymous
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/financialpost/story.html?id=c47c1209-233b-412c-b6d1-5c755457a8af&
amp;p=1

lol you fags are great.

SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT BUY INTO OUT CULT!?! EVIL REPUBLIKKKAN!!11 U DIE OF AIDS NOW!11
>> Anonymous
>>114195
the rich dumbfucks wrestled power from the people and are turning us into a country of haves-have nots. Couple that with taking out jobs and forcing the rest of the educated masses to work pathetic jobs never amounting to anything, and it's kinda easy to see why morons get into power (good old boy network stuff) and rich stay rich while the poor get poorer. But I'm just being bitter, someone with a better take chime in on my off topic bitching.
>> Anonymous
>>114196http://www.energybulletin.net/18545.html
"A historical example will help to make the point. In the 1920s, the distinguished Cambridge geophysicist Harold Jeffreys rejected the idea of continental drift on the grounds of physical impossibility. In the 1950s, geologists and geophysicists began to accumulate overwhelming evidence of the reality of continental motion, even though the physics of it was poorly understood. By the late 1960s, the theory of plate tectonics was on the road to near-universal acceptance.

Yet Jeffreys, by then Sir Harold, stubbornly refused to accept the new evidence, repeating his old arguments about the impossibility of the thing. He was a great man, but he had become a scientific mule. For a while, journals continued to publish Jeffreys' arguments, but after a while he had nothing new to say. He died denying plate tectonics. The scientific debate was over.

So it is with climate change today. As American geologist Harry Hess said in the 1960s about plate tectonics, one can quibble about the details, but the overall picture is clear."

TL;DR: when EVERYONE ELSE BUT YOU IS CALLING YOU AN IDIOT, THEY MAY BE ONTO SOMETHING. TIME TESTED PHENOMENON. OH WOW. DISSENTERS. THEY MUST BE UNDERDOGS AND RIGHT. FUCK OFF.

So what if there's no consensus? Historically butthurt losers have denied the obvious.
>> Anonymous
>>114198
Move to fucking Cuba you commie pinko.
>> Anonymous
>>114204
Brilliant retort. Nevermind the disappearing middle class. Nevermind the whole outsourcing issue. Nevermind questionable political figure placement and ties.

Yes. It's because I'm a communist. Dumbfuck. There's a terrorist behind you too! RESCIND ALL LEGAL RIGHTS FOR THE GREATER GOOD. ALSO GIVE HEALTHCARE TO PRIVATE INDUSTRY BECAUSE COMPETITION WILL LEAD TO GREATER CARE.

People with your mindset and the fucker about dissenters are the reason why the US is going to hell faster than ever before.
>> Anonymous
>>114206
You're a trust-fund hippy or unemployed college student, aren't you? Are any of these things anything but talking-points for you?

"Give healthcare to private industry"? When was it anywhere else.

Thank Science emotional zelots like you aren't in charge of this country.

OUR SCIENCE IS GREAT! PRAISE SCIENCE!
>> Anonymous
>>113007
stfu eurofag
>> Anonymous
>>114215
I agree, science is great! MOAR PEOPLE SHOULD USE IT ALONG WITH COMMON SENSE AND A CRITICAL MIND
>> Anonymous
>>114215
healthcare in the US never was anywhere else if IIRC. great system it is, isn't it?/sarcasm
>> Anonymous
ITT Bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!
>> Anonymous
>>114233
capitalize everything, then you'd be more accurate. I'll admit to being one of them, but shit people. BECAUSE ONE DOOD SAYS IT ISN'T REAL, YOU'LL TRUST HIM TO THE EXCLUSION OF THE OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE WHICH CERTAINLY MUST BE "LIBERAL PROPAGANDA?!"

It's enough to drive a man to drink.
>> Anonymous
>>114202

This is a great example of how fucking stupid liberals are. You can’t have it both ways. You can’t say

"99% of scientists agree, and 1% don’t, so which is more likely to be true?"

then when it turns out your wrong say

"Who cares if there is not a consensus? Most people used to think the world is flat, while a few thought it was round, therefore the minority opinion is always right."

Go die in a fire please.
>> Anonymous
>>114239

Did you even read the thread retard?
>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
>>114243
I know what you mean, bro. I keep telling them holocaust did not happen, but they wont believe me. Stupid liberal hippies ;_;
>> Anonymous
>>114253
lol
>> Anonymous
>>114253
You're straw is falling out of your asscrack fyi.
>> Anonymous
Gwabbu Wabbu?