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"China's white dolphin called extinct after 20 million years

BEIJING, China (AP) -- An expedition searching for a rare Yangtze River dolphin ended Wednesday without a single sighting and with the team's leader saying one of the world's oldest species was effectively extinct."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/12/13/china.dolphin.ap/index.html
>> Anonymous
I'm surprised ANYTHING is still alive in the yangtze. with 1.2 billion hungry chinks around you're not going to last long.

on the other hand that 'dolphin' is an ugly motherfucker. good riddance
>> Anonymous
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>>53033
o rly? I disagree.
>> Anonymous
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I would blame it more on the ridiculous pollution and that disaster of a dam that they are building. But way to go China, killing off another species.
>> Anonymous
that's really sad
>> Anonymous
what the hell? aren't there any of these in zoos?
>> Anonymous
I blame the pandas.
>> Anonymous
It is about time to find solution to this human problem.
>> Anonymous
>>53187
Soylent Green :3
>> Anonymous
they've got funky looking river dolphins in the amazon though - we haven't run out yet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_River_Dolphin
>> Anonymous
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ohh.. that is very sad. That is why, i hate people...
>> Anonymous
Congratulations, humankind! Your recent butt-and-vag-raping of Miss Planet Earth concieved you an illegitimate child!

I suggest you name it Extinction.

So... When are humans going to be endangered species?

I can't fucking wait.
>> Anonymous
I love how everyone always forgets that sometimes species go extinct by completely natural causes. I mean, most of the time it is mostly our fault, but people act as if this would never happen if human beings weren't there. Come on, grow some balls and come out of your bubble world guys.
>> Anonymous
>>53398
You realize that the number of species that have gone extinct due to humans (and in fact the number of species that have gone extinct over all human history) is virtually nothing compared to the total number of extinctions since life began, right? It's a drop in the ocean.
>> Anonymous
>>53401
Well...Most of the time, it wouldn't.
>> 20 million years ;_; Anonymous
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I love all of the people in this thread <3

You would think that having such a rare animal on this planet in that -one- specific location would be enough to classify the dolphin as a national treasure. Guess the Chinese disagree.
>> Anonymous
Yay, Humans score another point against nature!
>> Anonymous
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IF IF IT WEREN'T FOR HUMANS TEH DINOSAURS WOULD STILL BE AROUND!
>> Anonymous
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in happier news

World's tallest man saves China dolphins
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061214/ap_on_fe_st/china_dolphins_tallest_man
BEIJING - The long arms of the world's tallest man reached in and saved two dolphins by pulling out plastic from their stomachs, state media and an aquarium official said Thursday.

The dolphins got sick after nibbling on plastic from the edge of their pool at an aquarium in Liaoning province. Attempts to use surgical instruments to remove the plastic failed because the dolphins' stomachs contracted in response to the instruments, the China Daily newspaper reported.

Veterinarians then decided to ask for help from Bao Xishun, a 7-foot-9 herdsman from Inner Mongolia with 41.7-inch arms, state media said.

Bao, 54, was confirmed last year by the Guinness Book of World Records as the world's tallest living man.
Chen Lujun, the manager of the Royal Jidi Ocean World aquarium, told The Associated Press that the shape of the dolphins' stomachs made it difficult to push an instrument very far in without hurting the animals. People with shorter arms could not reach the plastic, he said.

"When we failed to get the objects out we sought the help of Bao Xishun from Inner Mongolia and he did it successfully yesterday," Chen said. "The two dolphins are in very good condition now."

Photographs showed the jaws of one of the dolphins being held back by towels so Bao could reach inside the animal without being bitten.

"Some very small plastic pieces are still left in the dolphins' stomachs," Zhu Xiaoling, a local doctor, told Xinhua. "However the dolphins will be able to digest these and are expected to recover soon."
>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
ANIMALS ARE PEOPLE TOO!
>> Anonymous
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>> Anonymous
Only way to save global ecosystem at this point is complete destruction of human civilization. I encourage everyone who is willing to take responsibility of our planet to murder your elected politicians, burn your local libraries and sabotage the educational system. First we need to stop the speading information and disable organised administrations. Nature is more valuable than human selfishness.
>> Anonymous
>>53401
This is obvious troll, but anyway...

According to a 1998 survey of 400 biologists conducted by New York\'s American Museum of Natural History, nearly 70 percent of biologists believe that we are currently in the early stages of a human-caused mass extinction,[10] known as the Holocene extinction event. In that survey, the same proportion of respondents agreed with the prediction that up to 20 percent of all living species could become extinct within 30 years (by 2028). Biologist E.O. Wilson estimated [4] in 2002 that if current rates of human destruction of the biosphere continue, one-half of all species of life on earth will be extinct in 100 years.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extinct
>> Anonymous
>>53435
People are animals too.
>> Anonymous
>>53398
Well, we've gotta start somewhere.

Wanna volunteer?
>> Anonymous
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>>53444
people = animals

animals != people

As this handy venn diagram illustrates.
>> Anonymous
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In deed.
>> Anonymous
>>53449
That's because they're terrorists
>> Anonymous
>>53455
Where do you get these ideas from? There has not been anything even slightly hinting towards that direction.
>> Anonymous
Human existence is worthless if compared to well-being of nature.

Paradoxially human actions today is causing that humanity cannot afford human values and rights any longer, atleast not for the vast majority of people, who quite frankly need to die or stop consuming in order to save rest of the environment that they have not raped so far. We have reached the point where human needs are always in conflict with well-being of the planet. It is about time stop worshipping human life and start taking out the sources who corrupt our environment.
>> Anonymous
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>>53473
As a living thing, my survival instinct superscedes all and any care for nature. It does for you too. If you really felt the way you claim, you'd kill yourself.

>>53457
<==
>> Anonymous
>>53401
seconded.
>> Anonymous
>>53504

Did you really read the previous post? If so, I think you failed to understand some crucial points that he made.

>As a living thing, my survival instinct superscedes all and any care for nature.


Your induvidial survival instinct is has nothing what so ever to do with your caring for nature. I suggest that you start using your brain.

>It does for you too. If you really felt the way you claim, you\'d kill yourself.

I dont undestand your logic. Why kill yourself when you can do something to change things?
>> Anonymous
>>53511
see>>53443

People who think that most species that are gone to extiction in last 500 years are not caused by humans are the ones deluding themselves.
>> Anonymous
>>53514
Because your post sounds an awful lot like you think we need to embark on a human genocide.

>We have reached the point where human needs are always in conflict with well-being of the planet. It is about time stop worshipping human life and start taking out the sources who corrupt our environment.

Translation: all humans must die yay!
>> Anonymous
>>53504
If someone actually clicked the image, make sure you have no previous criminal register.
>> Anonymous
>>53516
that is one way seeing it. all I was saying is that humanism and values we like to assosiate with it today are going to be changing in near future.
>> Anonymous
>>53519
Ah, well, for you maybe
>> Gijs 6619 0135 7349 2684
You guys do realize that lots of species go extinct every week?
>> Anonymous
(CNN) -- The complex web of life on Earth, what scientists call \"biodiversity,\" is in serious trouble.

\"Biodiversity includes all living things that we depend on for our economies and our lives,\" explained Brooks Yeager, vice president of global programs at the World Wildlife Fund in Washington, D.C.

\"It\'s the forests, the oceans, the coral reefs, the marine fish, the algae, the insects that make up the living world around us and which we couldn\'t do without,\" he said.

Nearly 2 million species of plants and animals are known to science and experts say 50 times as many may not yet be discovered.

Yet most scientists agree that human activity is causing rapid deterioration in biodiversity. Expanding human settlements, logging, mining, agriculture and pollution are destroying ecosystems, upsetting nature\'s balance and driving many species to extinction.

There is virtual unanimity among scientists that we have entered a period of mass extinction not seen since the age of the dinosaurs, an emerging global crisis that could have disastrous effects on our future food supplies, our search for new medicines, and on the water we drink and the air we breathe. Estimates vary, but extinction is figured by experts to be taking place between 100 to 1,000 times higher than natural \"background\" extinction.

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/08/23/green.century.mass.extinction/index.html
>> Anonymous
guys, guys, it's ok. once all the critters go extinct, humans will go extinct, and then there will be new critters.
>> Anonymous
Seven out of 10 biologists believe the world is now in the midst of the fastest mass extinction of living things in the 4.5 billion-year history of the planet, according to a poll conducted by the American Museum of Natural History and the Louis Harris survey research firm.

That makes it faster even than the crash which occurred when the dinosaurs died some 65 million years ago. Unlike that and other mass extinctions of the pre-human past, the current one is the result of human activity, and not natural phenomena, say the scientists.

The scientists surveyed rated biodiversity loss as a more serious environmental problem than the depletion of the ozone layer, global warming or pollution and contamination. A majority (70 percent) said they believe that during the next 30 years as many as one-fifth of all species alive today will become extinct, and a third of the respondents think as many as half the species on Earth will die out in that time.

http://web.archive.org/web/20011222210519/www.enn.com/enn-features-archive/1998/09/091698/fea0916_23
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>>53527

Because all human effects will be erased once we all die.

And new critters once everything else is dead? Where the fuck do you think they'll come from, a void in space?
>> Anonymous
>>53565
The life of planet earth has survived things much more destructive than humanity. It'll be fine.
>> Anonymous
>>53568
I for one welcome our new squid/pig/rat/jellyfish/or roach overlords.
>> Anonymous
I suspect we will contine to kill speices untill it is too late and we will die out, hopefully there will be something left to coninue living and the world will slowly grow back
>> Anonymous
>>53565

Evolution. Ever heard of it?
>> Anonymous
>>53581
Why would humankind die out because of the reduction of species?
We depend on only a few farm species we successfully breed.

My scenario is different:
Humanity will greatly reduce the species of earth until we kill ourselves in a war or not.
If we make room for other species again, then these will be the offspring of whatever species we left alive.
Certainly insects and our farm animals, if they are still able to breed.
But maybe humankind will split itself up into different species and be the ancestor of a new kind variety.
>> Anonymous
what the fuck. the ways humans are affecting our planet is nothing natural that \"just happens\". there is no way of justifying it. it has nothing to do with evolution or the normal procecess of nature what so ever. no nature in a way that it has been for billions of years will exists after humans are done with their planetary raping.
>> Gijs 6619 0135 7349 2684
>>53636

Yes, fuck asteroids, sun spots, magnetic revearsal of the poles and all that shit.

We're gonna die because of plastic bags and aluminium cans.
>> Anonymous
Hey, hippies, if you don't like the OMG H00MANS AND THEIR EVIL WAYS, then why are you sitting at your computer (made of plastics and heavy metals) using electricity (probably generated using fossil fuels)?

Who gives a shit about this "also ran" in the race of evoluation. None of you, otherwise you wouldn't have waited this long to say anything.

Let's face it, humans are the only animals on this planet that have done anything worth a damn. What's a tiger done that will live forever in the annuals of history? Run around really fast?
>> Anonymous
>>53647What's a tiger done that will live forever in the annuals of human history?
Fixed

>>53402You realize that the number of species that have gone extinct due to humans (and in fact the number of species that have gone extinct over all human history) is virtually nothing compared to the total number of extinctions since life began, right? It's a drop in the ocean.

You realise you don't know what you're talking about, right?
>> Anonymous
>>53645Yes, fuck asteroids, sun spots, magnetic revearsal of the poles and all that shit.

It only shows your own stupidity and illiteracy, when you compare those things to phenomenon that humans have caused over the years, because they differ from each other and from the human caused phenomenon in every possible way. I think you are missing the point of this argument and suggest that you do some studying on the subject before posting again. However, I can still understand why you, like most of the people are feeling offended by these things and are trying to deny them or justify your own selfish actions that are causing the environmental problems.

>We\'re gonna die because of plastic bags and aluminium cans.
I think this really shows that you have no clue of what you are saying.

The existance of other threaths does not justify anything, like most people who are familiar with the very basics of logical thinking can assume.
>> Anonymous
I still do not see why everyone holds human life in such great value. Naturally everyone cares for themselves, but why give a shit about others that you do not even know.
When the whole ecosystem of our planet is at stake every sane person would choose it over selfish human privileges. After all it is vital to the survival of humanity that we can preserve our environment in a way that it does not suffer any more mass catastrophes.
Correct me if I am wrong, but most problems that we are dealing are in some way or another caused by too high population or too much consuming of manifactured goods. I am no fascist or anarchist myself, but those two idealogies would be great tools solving these problems. Like someone said it is too late for humanism now, we simply cannot afford it anymore.
>> Gijs 6619 0135 7349 2684
>>53669

Judging by that sole post, I don't think you should be the one calling someone else 'illiterate'.

But very well; you neatly summarized your post of accusations at the very end.

I quote:

"The existance of other threaths does not justify anything"

Thanks for missing the point.

I'm going to bed now, and check back here tomorrow. I will assume you have reread my post and maybe reconsidered what I meant. If you're still confused as to what my post means, please do ask. I will do my best to explain.
>> Anonymous
>>53636
Because the actions of humans, though they are animals, are not natural, despite we being just as much a part of the ecosystem as everything else, right?

Face it. We're not above animals. We have the same instincts they do. Any animal in our position would do exactly as we are doing. If you look at human population over the past several thousand years, we're following the same pattern every animal at the top of the food chain does. We're just not in decline yet. Eventually we'll enter strife, go into decline, and another species will take over for a while while we build up again. The process will repeat itself.

It'll just take a few million years to do so.
>> Anonymous
>>53713
Eventually it'll just happen on its own as resources become more scarce, so quit bitching.
>> Anonymous
>>53713


My thoughts exactly!


Holocaust would definedly be great alternative for holocene.
>> Anonymous
>>53724Eventually it\'ll just happen on its own as resources become more scarce, so quit bitching.
What will happen? If you are implying to the human loss caused by overpopulation, you missed the point. It is those resources that are consumed, for example by overpopulation need to be saved. Facism for an example would be a great way to do that, not for the sake of facism itself, but as long as it serves the cause in most effectively, it is the best thing that can be done.
>> Anonymous
>>53713I am no fascist or anarchist myself.

Fat sociopathic fuck who'd drive an SUV if he had the money to afford it.

Yes, overpopulation is a problem. We should start solving the matter by aborting your ass.

ALL HAIL!
>> Voleta
Might I refer you all to..

http://www.churchofeuthanasia.org/index.html

Yes, some of their information is tainted by their opinions, but the majority is based on facts. Read, and form your own opinion.

Please, save the planet, and kill yourself.
I'm not kidding.
>> Anonymous
>>53728
My point is that eventually lack of resources will cause poverty and strife, which will give rise to fascist dictatorships and massive wars, which will cause massive declines in human civilization. It'll happen on it's own, so just let it happen when it happens. Frankly, I don't see why it needs to happen any sooner or later. If it happens sooner, then fewer species go extinct, but I don't really care, since I won't be there to appreciate them anyway. What with dying in a firey holocaust and all.

Most things in nature will balance out on their own if you just go about your buisness.
>> Anonymous
>>53619

Logic, ever tried it?

When "all the critters" are extinct (and here I can only assume you meant /everything/ on earth), there is NOTHING TO EVOLVE FROM. stfu and gb2rl.
>> Anonymous
>>53729
by golly
>> Anonymous
>>53735
>When "all the critters" are extinct (and here I can only assume you meant /everything/ on earth), there is NOTHING TO EVOLVE FROM. stfu and gb2rl.

You give humans too much credit. No way in hell we'll ever kill off everything. Besides Nature gave all living things the instincts to adapt and survive. (Human, rats, roaches, bacteria)
>> Anonymous
seven out of ten biologists fear that grant money will go extinct if they don't forcast the death of the universe unless their pet project is funded.
>> Anonymous
finally, was wondering when these dicks would go extinct
>> Anonymous
>>53759
Tell me about it. Ugliest dolphin evor. We're better off without them.

We should just start genociding ugly animals so that we won't have to look at them.
>> Anonymous
next: the chinese
>> Anonymous
>>53740
I can't wait to live in a world consisting of nothing but humans, rats, roaches, and bacteria.
>> Anonymous
>>53780
You ever tried rat? It's not that bad.
>> Anonymous
>>53786
What an ambiguous expression...you furfag.
>> Somarinoa
Actually, they MIGHT have some still in captive breeding, although the wiki page seems to indicate they're all dead there, too...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baiji

I wish there was a site that had a list (with pictures and information) of all the species that are endangered and have gone extinct in the last however long...that'd be an interesting site to peruse.
>> Anonymous
>>53790
http://eelink.net/EndSpp/ for starters
>> Anonymous
>>53790
http://extinct.petermaas.nl/extinct/
>> Anonymous
>>53790
http://www.iucnredlist.org/
>> Anonymous
www.yahoo.com
>> Anonymous
Spoilers: When the sun burns out and turns into a red giant, the Earth will either be pulled towards it and destroyed or simply burnt away by the extreme heat. Everything in our solar system is going to die, adn there will be no trace that the Earth or any of the life on it ever existed. It doesn't. Matter.
>> Anonymous
>>54235
Except we (or rather whatever comes after humanity) might be able to stop it at some point or protect the planet from it. We/They do have plenty of time and we know so little...
>> Talec !gKQv5IanZU
>>54235
Not if we move out and colonize other systems. :3