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Betta vase Anonymous
I saw that at WalMart today and thought it was cool (the ones I saw were not as fag looking as this one), but I was wondering if the fish would be getting enough oxygen. Will it die from suffocating after 4 days?
>> Anonymous
also how do we feed it without taking everything off?
>> Anonymous
Betta fish breathe our air. They go up to the surface to breathe.
>> Anonymous
>>97770
fishes don't have lungs
>> Anonymous
there's either a small tube you can drop food through or you can just easily pull up the plant-stopper to feed them
>> Anonymous
Those look terrible
>> Anonymous
They can survive that, but that doesn't mean they like it.
They should have a source of oxygen and even a heater to keep them really happy...
>> Anonymous
>>97804
They'll survive it, but not for very long, anyway.
>> Anonymous
Those lily vase things are cruel.
>> Anonymous
>>97790
Bettas have lungs. They naturally live in swamp water, so they breath air in order to survive harsh conditions.
>> Anonymous
you are all morons.
Bettas do not have lungs. They have a specialized organ among their regular gills called a Labyrinth that helps them process atmospheric oxygen. They still have regular gills, and do not exclusively breathe atmospheric air. That being said, they do need acess to the surface to breathe properly.

Bettas are carnivores, they don't survive on the roots like it says in the instructions for that thing.
>> Anonymous
These things are sold for people who want a pet as a decoration, and the fish doesn't survive for nearly as long as it could in a proper tank (10 gallon minimum). They're incredibly cruel.
>> Anonymous
>>97875
^ went to about.com and found all that stuff in one article there.

I know, cuz I did it too. But I didn't call everyone else an "idiot" 'bout it.

Good job anon. Good fuckin' jerb.
>> Anonymous
>>97913
Unless he copypasta'd the article (and I'm too lazy to check), he could have easily known if he keeps fish as a hobby. I used to, and I knew that. But yeah, you're not a moron if you don't know the specialized biology of bettas...
>> Anonymous
beta fish have a "labrytnh organ" that allows them to breate oxygen out of air. also, the plant would probably be producing oxygen. the real point is that betas are meat-eaters and slowly starve to death when you just give them plants
>> Anonymous
>>97875
I agree, saying that bettas have lungs is a retarded assumption.
>> Anonymous
>>97956
The roots of a plant will not create oxygen however.
In addition to that, at night plants will consume oxygen, instead of producing it.
So, while at day, the oxygen level may be ok in the water, at night, your fish may start breathing heavily.
An air pump helps with that.
>> Anonymous
for a beta it's...ok. But NOT for any other kind of fish. Betas can still stand a little more room. Walmart is notorious for cruelty to fish, but nobody cares enough to make them stop. NEVER buy fish from Walmart. They are ALWAYS diseased and will die within two weeks while giving all the other fish in your tank their disease.
>> Anonymous
I used to work at a Walmart. Every week, one of my assistant managers always made me scoop up all the dead fish in the tanks and claim them out as loss. Used to get bags and bags full of dead fish every week.
>> Anonymous
Those little vase things with the plants are torturous for bettas. when you buy one, get him a decent sized bowl or something. And don't let two of them live in the same bowl. THey WILL kill each other.
>> Anonymous
>>97775
Holy shit you are stupid as hell....
>> Anonymous
You need to change a betta's water or ammonia can build up and melt the fish's fins off. I found that out first hand. :(

>>97993
>>97997

It's a shame most petstores or garden centers I've been in had fish as sick as Walmarts. Maybe they get the fish from the same place?
>> Anonymous
>>98015
No he's not.
Betta's have a labyrinth organ, which allows them to breath air. Look it up on wikipedia you humongous faggot.
>> Anonymous
>>98015
what? got nothing to say? idiot
>> Anonymous
>>98164
yeah, lets fight over animal guts.
>> Anonymous
>>97993

I've actually purchased fish from Wal-Mart that thrived in my tanks. ALWAYS is kind of a strong word.
>> Anonymous
>>97993
Yeah, I got almost all of my five bettas from walmart, and they are happy and healthy after five months. Maybe there's a fish guy at the walmart I go to that takes good care of them or something.
>> Anon
10 gallon for a single fish my ass.
A betta requires access to the surface, water temperatures at 80 degrees F, fish food for carnivorous type fish, and if you don't have filtration a water change once every week.
Vases and those tiny tanks suck for bettas. Vases because the neck doesn't allow for proper access to the surface nor does it allow for adequate oxygen/carbon exchange. Both vases and tiny tanks have several things in common.
One, they don't keep a constant temperature nor can they have heaters to keep it constant. In Science glass we learned that the less mass the quicker things cool/heat up..unhappy lethargic betta.
I've read that pumps/filters can cause disturbances on the water surface and bettas can drowned.
I have 4 males in a 10 gallon, split up, each with 2 live and several plastic plants, a snail, etc. They enjoy their space, come to the front to eat or beg, go to the back among their plants to weave through them or rest.
My female is in a 2 gallon, with everything the males have. She plays with the bubbles, weaves through the plants, healthy as hell.
Ah, and I currently have 4 walmart fish. 1yr,two 2yrs, and one 5 months old.
>> Anonymous
>>98199
Our store was severely understaffed, and the assistant manager that took care of the fish firmly believed that the fish only needed to be fed once a week on weekends. Also since there was no real pet dept person, no one really cleaned any of the tanks either.

Gotta wonder why they kept dying so quickly.
>> Anonymous
yeah, stores that don't exclusivly deal with animals tend to not take the best care of what animals they do have.

As for walmart, they get their fish via trucks, and from what I've heard the trip is extremely stressful to the fish. So when the fish get to the specific store they tend to die within the next couple of days. Our store is brand new and I see the lady cleaning the tank every day, but every time I go and look in the tanks at night there are always plenty of floaters.

It always suprised me though when I went to look in the tanks and saw dead Goldfish. I mean...goldfish can live through just about anything...
>> Anonymous
>>98167
FIGHTING ABOUT ANIMAL GUTS IS WHAT WE DO, FAGGOT!
>> Anonymous
>>97993

I bought my current fish at Wal Mart. I've had them for two years now. (Black Moor, 3 Red Caps, 3 Columbian Sharks, and a Pleco) Still strong with minimal fish loss. I lost two out of 8 when I took my tanks apart and cleaned them out completely - mostly because of stress and a minor case of Fungus - but that was well over a year ago. I also got a Betta from there for a year and a half before.

So yes, Wal Mart is not a terrific place to get your fish, but I've personally never had my fish die in two weeks unless I was the one doing something incorrectly.
>> Anonymous
>>97770

My mom had two of these in the kitchen. The beta's were perfectly fine in em.
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>>97770
Those vases look nice, but it's not a good thing for the fish. :/ Someone wasn't thinking well when they invented that idea.

I strongly suggest finding a 5 or 10 gallon tank kit with heater, gentle pump, light, and filter to decorate with gravel and plants of your choice. They look so much nicer on a very strong shelf or nice table along the wall, and you wont have to keep changing water out every other day, or rearranging a useless plant that covers access. You should monitor the water levels, but you can get a kit much like a pool kit for that.
Avoid placing in direct light unless you like algae blooms.

Also, ITT we ignore faggots who forget wind and water currents exist when they say these fish live in "muddy" puddles and have "lungs". Any fish will force itself to constantly gulp air if it's suffocating.