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There are dog breeds that remain in a puppy-like condition all their life. Why isn't there a cat like that?
>> Anonymous
Because dogs are better than cats.
>> Anonymous
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fuck you cats are better
>> Anonymous
Some cats are like that, it just varies from individual to individual. There are fewer differences between cat breeds than dog breeds because we haven't been domesticating cats for nearly as long as dogs.
>> Anonymous
>>112864
Actually, there have been domestic cats for about as long as humans have known about how to breed animals. It's just that until the 19th century, not a lot of people were interested in breeding cats with any special attributes. So, cat breeding has thousands of years to catch up to.
>> Anonymous
because dogs are awesome and dont shit in your house and then step all in it and then scratch you with thier shitty claws.
>> Anonymous
>>112882

No, but they do roll around in their own shit. And other dog's shit. And, well, pretty much anything that smells nasty, like roadkill.
>> Anonymous
>>112882
They do if you dont know how to train them, retard.
>> Anonymous
>>112886

Excellent! You've now admitted that training is a possiblity. Likewise, if you TRAIN YOUR CAT they don't scratch you with shitty claws.
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Actually there are, they are called "Munchkin cats"
They are cats with a gene that causes their legs to be very short, and they tend to stay small and with kitten like attributes for all their adult life.
>> Anonymous
>>112906
Why would someone do this?
>> Anonymous
>>112907
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munchkin_(cat)
>> Anonymous
>>112910
Why, though?

>The breed is not recognised by most registering associations due to health concerns and questions of the morality of breeding such cats and has been criticised widely. Although accepted by The International Cat Association, it is banned by the Cat Fanciers Association, Fédération Internationale Féline, Governing Council of the Cat Fancy and other registries.[1].[2]

It seems kinda cruel to breed these things, if you ask me.
>> Anonymous
>>112882

Are you fucking serious? Cats use a litter box pretty naturally. I have never had a cat that didn't. But I have met LOTS of dogs that just shit anywhere that they feel like it. Granted, that is the result of poor training, but pretty much any cat will use a litter box with no training other than showing it to him.
>> Anonymous
>>112906
Isn't there a kitten-like cat without, you know, major deformities?
>> Anonymous
not only do dogs like to roll in shit they like to eat it too. i know someone who's dog eats cat shit whenever it can find it.
>> Anonymous
>>112913

Funny, we've been breeding short legged dogs for centuries with little protest. From what I've heard, Munchkin cats are actually less prone to back problems then their canine equivalents. Short legs in cats is no more a "deformity" then lop ears in rabbits or the lack of a tail Manx cats. By all accounts they are normal cats with no evidence of joint, bone or other health problems, and while this mutation would probably not survive in the wild (just like taillessness or lop ears), that is a moot point anyway.
>> Anonymous
>>112934
Every dog I've ever known(20+) likes to eat cat shit.
Think of it as recycling!
>> Anonymous
>>112860

because no one likes cats
>> Anonymous
>>113013
So, why are they mostly banned by cat fancier associations and brought up in regards to the ethics of breeding such cats?
>> Anonymous
HOW THE HELL DO YOU POST ON THIS SHIT
>> Anonymous
wtf, no

munchkin cats have back problems too

did you just make up that steaming heap of bullshit yourself?
BRAVO ASSWIPE.
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>>113016

A combination of reasons, the primary one being ignorance. They are a new, relatively rare breed, and many people have the same knee-jerk reaction that anon had concerning their "deformities". Looking deeper into it, the Fédération Internationale Féline actually incorrectly cites the genetic condition thought to cause the shortened limbs in their registration rules, and the Governing Council of the Cat Fancy also refuses to register Scottish Folds and American Curls for the same reason it refuses to recognize Munchkins. Their also concerned with the complicated genes of Munchkins (similar to problems associated with merle dogs and odd-eyed cats), but as long as the breeder understands those genetics and does the proper research, there shouldn't be a problem.

That was far to detailed an answer for 4chan, and I promiseit won't happen again. Here's a funny cat picture to balance it out. LOL, also cock, etc etc
>> Anonymous
>>112860
What kind of dogs?

I honestly didn't know this. Bouviers? That would explain a lot...
>> Anonymous
>>113027

Cats have super flexible backbones. Munchkin cats are about as likely to have back problems as any other cat. The only issue they have is that they can't jump as high. Oh freaking well.
>> Anonymous
munchkin cats have better handling and cornering than regular cats


better fuel mileage
>> Anonymous
Munchkin cats often get put into the same groups as twisty cats, but twisty cat breeding is WAY more fucked up. Not bonsai kitten fucked up, but actually real.
>> Anonymous
>>113061
If a human being was born with legs and arms half the normal length, it would be a deformity. If a cat or dog is born with the same mutation, it's not a deformity? Double standards FTW!
>> Anonymous
>>113269

I would consider a true deformity to be something that hinders or disables everyday movement or activities. In people, who depend on their limbs for far more then just locomotion, shortened limbs can be a great detriment to functioning in human society. Dogs and cats, of course, do not encounter these same issues.

Just my definition, though, not Webster's.
>> Anonymous
I have a cat that is basically the size of a 3 month old cat and shes almost a year old. We call her tiny cat, since we dont think she'll get any bigger.
>> Anonymous
>>113149
Munchkin cats were found living under a trailer in Baton Rouge. They had adapted to this environment.
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Dogs suck because they always stink. Every time I babysit at this one house with a dog, I end up washing my hands 50 times after giving into temptation to play with their dog. >_>
>> Anonymous
>>114517

Then the dog hasn't been taken care or bathed properly. We have four dogs in our house (Two Pomeranians, a Standard Poodle, and a Heeler Mix), and we've never had a problem with odor, either on the dogs or in the house. A good diet and an occasional bath can do wonders, even in dogs with skin or allergy problems.
>> Anonymous
>>113496
What is a deformity? Consider the word "deformed". It's made out of two parts: de- and form. In short, it means that something is not of normal shape. Munchkin legs are abnormally short, therefore deformed.

What you seem to be describing is more of a disability than deformity.
>> Anonymous
>>114525

It's not the definition of the word, but the negative connotation. Deformed is almost synonymous disabled or crippled for many people. Of course, every useful adaptation started out as deformity, primates that walked upright to dogs with webbed toes. The problem, I've learned, with Munchkin cats is not their short stature, but a possibly related issue with their chest cavity being more compressed then normal cats. This is similar to bone problems found in some strains of Scottish fold cat.

http://www.messybeast.com/twisty.htm <-- this is excellent analysis of the pros and cons of breeding supposedly 'deformed' cats, mainly focusing on the so called 'twisty cats'.
>> Anonymous
>>114529
From Merriam-Webster:

Main Entry: de·formed
Function: adjective
: distorted or unshapely in form : MISSHAPEN

Main Entry: de·for·mi·ty
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -ties
1 : the state of being deformed
2 : IMPERFECTION, BLEMISH: as a : a physical blemish or distortion : DISFIGUREMENT b : a moral or aesthetic flaw or defect

From Oxford English Dictionary:
deformed
• adjective misshapen; distorted.

deformity
• noun (pl. deformities) 1 a deformed part, especially of the body. 2 the state of being deformed.

tl;dr: Like it or not, those cats are deformed, even if they aren't disabled.
>> Anonymous
>>113521
is she also kitten-like in behavior? Perhaps we've found an eligible breeding mother for a minicat breed...
>> Anonymous
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGP3wygohvg&mode=related&search=
eeeeeeee the cuteness
>> Anonymous
I really don't see how people can call breeding munchkins immoral when we have all sorts of fucking wacky looking dog breeds. Your miniature dachsund looked like a fucking wolf before people started messing with it, so what?