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What does /an/ think of The Future is Wild, and the possible future it presents for this planet, with fish taking the place of birds and squids becoming the next great civilized species? Realistic, or just plain nonsense?
>> Anonymous
nonsense
humans will just fuck their shit up so they cant evolve
>> Anonymous
As soon as humans leave the planet, animals suddenly get stupid names?

Wish they'd make a sequel, though.
>> Anonymous
I thought it was pretty cool, and it makes sence that octopi would be the next intelligent species, I mean currently they are pretty smart.
>> Demyx's Landmaster !!vjyCRKGc15d
I love how they predicted that the most common animals will go extinct and threatened/endangered animals would survive and evolve. And that mammals would all go extinct with the last species becoming chow for giant spiders. Don't get me started on the names, either, my friends were rolling after hearing some of those stupid names.
>> Anonymous
>>305160
You mean you can't take such names as FLISH, RAINBOW SQUID, DEATH BOTTLE, and BABOOKARI seriously?

Surely you jest!

On a serious note, I dislike the idea of mammals being reduced to livestock for spiders.
>> Anonymous
It's neat, but ridiculous that animals would evolve stupid shit they don't need. I can believe something like lungs that can process the extra chemicals in the air, but there's no reason for a fish to be flying around with its jaw popping out.

Evolve as needed.
>> Anonymous
Some of the potential creatures were ridiculous. I didn't like the "Cephalopods will inherit the earth" ending either. That said, I'd watch a sequel.
>> Demyx's Blue-Marine !!vjyCRKGc15d
>>305168
don't forget BUMBLEBEETLE, DEATHGLEANER, SHARKOPATH, SQUIBBON, and TORRATON (Torterra?).

I also loved how it showed that the Cari-cari would go from a small flying bird-of-prey to a Terror Bird-sized beast with its wings turning into single-clawed arms that are absolutely useless. The show says the bird re-evolves its dinosaurian claw as "it's most deadly weapon", but they never showed the Carakillers using them, only their beaks and feet like all other flightless birds do.

You can also add TFiW to the list of shows that Animal Planet was too cheap to not constantly repeat footage of throughout it, along with Dragons: A Fantasy Made Real.
>> The_Pudding_Earl !!10U5EJQKuL7
>>305172

“If the creator had indeed lavished his best
design on the creature he shaped in his
own image, creationists would surely have
to conclude that God is really a squid”
(Diamond)


My zoology lecturer quoted this at us in our Cephalopoda topic. I'm now scarred.
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>>305236
Oh, don't act so shocked.
>> Nagi
>>305160
>>305168

If dinosaurs could go from dominating the planet to KFC and crapping on statues, I don't see what's so strange about mammals losing their dominant hold on the world's ecosystems.
>> Anonymous
>>305280

i lold, then i thought about it
>> Anonymous
>>305249
this turned me gay for cthulhu
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>>305236
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>>305236
Ladies and gentlemen: God made flesh.
>> Anonymous
>>305280
Evolution takes millions of years for even moderate changes. Humankind would kill the emerging monstrosities before they even left the ocean.
>> Anonymous
>>305311
you really think humans are going to be around for millions of years?? I mean.. yeah nice try, I'm going to bed.
>> Anonymous
>>305311
>>305320
Somebody didn't watch TFiW. Humans kindly left Earth and returned it to a prestine state. (lol, we'd never do that until we'd finally raped the last bit of this bitch.)
>> Anonymous
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OP's quote sounds like bullcrap to me.

When I was a kid, there was this rather interesting book called After Man, that imagined the evolution of the species some 50 million years forward. It didn't have any higher scifi concepts like new inteeligent species or whatnot, rather it was quite laid-back (save for several wild creature designs):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Man:_A_Zoology_of_the_Future

Anyone else read that? I loved it as a kid.
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>>305355
Sounds awesome. I'll look it up. but OP's quote is misleading. The show introduced "Squibbons" which were arboreal squid with a simple social structure and extremely limited tool use. The narrator hinted that they would become the next great civilization, but nothing was shown.
>> Anonymous
The problem with cephalopods is that they can't deal with fresh water. They've been around since the Cambrian and never during this time, even in their heyday, did they manage to produce freshwater forms. The cephalopods have hit a similiar evolutionary limit with their osmotic system as terrestrial arthropods with their respiratory system preventing growth beyond a certain limit. That's why we'll never see wolkswagen-sized goliath beetles or land-dwelling octopi. The lack of a skeleton of any kind is another major obstacle.

>>305355
I liked Dixon's After Man as a child too. Later I learned enough about biology and paleontology to realize how utterly unlikely, in some cases even impossible, his future zoology was. And that was by far his most realistic speculative evolution book!
>> Anonymous
I reckon it'd be ironic if today's monkeys and apes evolved into the next species to dominate the planet.
>> Anonymous
>>305380
I'd recon it would just be logical. Even if we end up killing all the apes, capuchin monkeys are already close enough in terms of intelligence and behavior. They already know how to use medicinal plants and use tools, and tests show they're close to achieving full self-awareness and theory of mind.
>> Anonymous
I fucking loved that show when it came out a couple years ago.
Does it come on often anymore?
>> Anonymous
I also could see birds developing a certain degree of higher intelligence. I mean crows and other birds are pretty clever. However, there's the problem that they don't really have functional hands.
>> Anonymous
Clearly, ants will take over the world.
>> Anonymous
>>305355
I still have after man. O.o
>> Anonymous
>>305355

Raged because the After man books were written by Dixon who also wrote The Future is Wild.

>>305398
also I would personally like to see Elephants become the next sentient species but it will never happen since they will likely be extinct before they get a chance.
>> Anonymous
>>305573
sadley true
>> Anonymous
Not necessarily future evolution, but Dixon also wrote a book on how dinosaurs would've evolved if they never died out.

There's also this site, which is quite in depth:

http://www.bowdoin.edu/~dbensen/Spec/Index.html
>> Demyx's Blue-Marine !!vjyCRKGc15d
>>305398
Parrots are very dexterous with their feet and beaks, and many other birds can manipulate things with their beaks. If they had to they could possibly re-evolve their three-clawed hands.
>> Anonymous
I just don't know how a future humanity would deal with another sentient species evolving on earth. Would we play the enlightened star trek humans who wait until our cousins are ready before we interfere, or would we PURGE THE MUTANTS TO PRESERVE HOLY TERRA, to get a little /tg/ about it?
>> Anonymous
>>305398
Corvids are already as intelligent as the great apes, and surprisingly deft with their beaks and legs. But as Anon>>305689mentioned, birds can re-evolve functioning fingers, and have done so at least twice already, without even becoming flightless. The future may belong to the first crows to grow thumbs.

So, considering that apes and elephants are likely to go extinct thanks to our fucking up the planet while corvids are just going to thrive, my money is on them.
>> Anonymous
>>305749
We'd probably consider them as pests, just as we think about rats and trashcan-raiding raccoons (or baboons in Africa) now. Rats especially have evolved in intelligence while adapting to human-made environments. Any new intelligent species would have to find a way to coexist with humans, and some form of cultural parasitism. Eventually though, we'd probably start treating them like pets, integrating them into human civilization, like we've done with dogs. This would probably happen well before they reach modern human-level sapience.
>> Anonymous
>>305794
whoops, part of the sentence got deleted:
>>and some form of cultural parasitism seems like a probable solution.
>> Nagi
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>>305787

Wow, WoW called it.
>> Anonymous
>>305860
What about the Dark Crystal?
>> Anonymous
>>305868
I thought they were some sort of toothed vultures?
>> Anonymous
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I read the book when I was young and it scared the living hell out of me. Now that I reread it, it's fucking stupid and makes me want to punch the librarian who put it in the children's section of my school library way back when.
>> Anonymous
>>305880
>>telepathic link

LOL DIXON SCIENCE
>> Anonymous
>>305882
Exactly. This hack shouldn't have gotten to publish anything after "Man after man" because it was basically a picture-book for people who like poorly-written sci-fi.
>> Anonymous
>>305880
i want a giant monkey beast to ride around on
>> Anonymous
>>305911
You'll get one as soon as you learn telepathy.
>> Anonymous
>>305787
I wouldn't mind seeing a future ruled by birds. They're described as the last surviving group of dinosaurs.

It's better than squids, anyway.